/gcg/ - Graphics Card General - "Do I have to keep making

If I plan to play GTA and Forza, should I go AMD? or Nvidia?

>>56254911
Intel iGPU

How long will a GTX 770 be sufficient for 1080p gaymen?

>>56254832
>>56254897
>>56254911
>>56254923
/v/

>>56254936
It has never been.

>>56254945
no...

NOOOOO

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>>56254944
You know that /g/ is not really a tech board like 8 chan's /tech/ right?

I mean with the daily "generals" for the most stupid shit ever like you can find on reddit it really didn't ring a bell yet?

>>56254911

Forza runs a bit better on amd, and gta heavily favors nvidia, you have to decide which one you play the most.

Nvidia's advantage on gta is larger than amd's on forza, fwiw.

Any opinions on the palit 1070s? They are there only OEM not charging founder edition prices for their cards

>>56255006

Palit/gainward are pretty decent cards, fairly high clocked on oc versions. Even better if you like the looks of cards with beefy coolers.

is back plated gpu a meme?

>>56254832
>>/v/

>>56254962
Problem with double Chan is that it's dead

>>56255096

No.

The 970 I mentioned in the op is an msi one that sold without a backplate, and sagged like a motherfucker. After installing a coldzero backplate the thing sits now as straight as it can be.

>backplate is an acrylic one
>considering remaking it in aluminium sheet and adding thermal pads

>>56255006
According to reviews, Palit's Super Jetstream and Gainward's Phoenix Golden Sample cards are among the best you can buy. They're cool, quiet and have the highest boost clocks.

What kind of performance are we gonna get with the upcoming GTX 1050?

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I was going to get the EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW HYBRID when it comes out as I need something that can do very heavy workloads and stay cool and quite in a case with not a ton of airflow. Am I just the worst at making decisions?

>>56255293

Why not using what you save on an air cooled 1080 to buy a better case?

>>56255293
>>56255293
>>56255293
>I need something that can do very heavy workloads and stay cool and quite in a case with not a ton of airflow.

>Am I just the worst at making decisions?

yep

>>56255345

The case I picked is low key to keep people from thinking I have something worth stealing. Also it will be shoved in a corner next to my desk which will mainly be the cause of the low airflow.

>>56255373

Okay. Now how about something of substance? Like why this card will fail at doing such a task?

1080ti when? I wanna upgrade from my 1070

Call me crazy, but i'm waiting for Vega, even if i don't get one, i'd just like something to compare against the 1070/1080

I just grabbed a Nitro+ RX 480 8GB for 287€ as soon as I saw it not being out of stock and not overpriced.
Can't wait.

>>56255505

I would like to see AMD go mental and make a 600mm2 behemoth on the 14nm node. It would be a monster in more ways than one.

>>56255505
Me too, I can't believe how well my GTX 660 handles games. Playing forza at 1080p with 60+ fps

>>56255396
You realize that you need airflow to cool things? That radiator won't just make the heat disappear.

>>56255396

There are a lot of good cases that look unsuspecting. Fractal Core and Arc series immediately come to mind for instance.

Source: I own an Arc Midi R2, only thing that might stand out is its size.

>>56254945
>It has never been.

I did BF4 in ultra @ 60fps when I had one

>>56254923
Can confirm, it runs gta 5

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>>56255638

I didn't say no airflow. I said not great. There will still be airflow just not as much as would normally be ideal which is why I am asking if the water cooling will be enough to offset that. Fuck you guys are shit at reading comprehension.

>>56255641

The 200R I have picked out should be fine but from what I can tell it's airflow isn't perfect.

>>56255701
>Fuck you guys are shit at reading comprehension.
You're the retard here. How is "water cooling" going to offset anything?

>>56254832
just ordered a second 1080 for sli, hope i can finally run deus ex MD on ultra with 60fps

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>>56255732

What determines how much of a housefire a gpu is, is it the temperatures it gets or the power consumption?

>>56255701

Yeah the 200r falls a bit short on temperatures for some reason. Might sound like shilling, but I can't recommend the Midi R2 enough, which does a lot better here. Sadly Portugal is a very warm country and even with the case I have some trouble cooling my parts, an msi 970 shouldn't reach 75° while gaming for instance, so adding to finally getting an ac this winter (now it's not a good time to buy one), I'm planning some part moving.

>remove both 3.5 cages to maximize airflow, add 140mm fans
>move the ssd to the back of the mb tray, mount the 3.5 hdd at the bottom of the case, drill mounting holes if necessary

>>56255782

The original meme came from the gtx 480's core temperatures.

>>56255265
bump

>>56255265
>>56255992

No one knows, there aren't even official specs out yet.

From Gtx 570 to a 1070 or a used 980ti?

>>56256053

Price of used 980ti?

>>56255148
bullshit...its quite active over there.

they simply only focus on software and refuse to discuss hardware.

also the /k/ board is better IMHO...but for tech 4chan is better.

Best card price/perf for 1080p at the moment?

>>56255454
>>56255454
Retard

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Seems Ivan and friends have updated their deus ex benchmarks. Seeing some gains on the AMD side.

>>56255843
>>56255782
The original meme came from fermi burning down someone's house.

>>56256162
>bought my fury x a year ago
>everyone made fun of me for doing that and "hurr durr 4GB"
>card is still going stronk, even beating 980Ti is several games now
KEK

L O V I N G
E V E R Y
L A U G H

>>56256330

Yeah but the fury x is no 290x. An overclocked 290x is capable of rivalling (and sometimes besting) a stock clocked 980ti. Consider that the 290x existed to best a 780 the performance gain is absolutely massive.

>>56256162
>buy a gtx 1080 thinking it'll be play most games at 1440p 60fps+ ultra settings, which it does (older games)
>this game comes out a few days later

Why is this allowed? This game seems to be more demanding than Quantum Break.

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>buy r9 290x for 150us including a lepa water cooler and a hg110
>runs completely fine at stock
>"all right lets oc this baby"
>get artifacts at 1050mhz

W H Y
H
Y

>>56256096
rx 470

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>>56256420

MOAR VOLTAGE NIGGA.

Want to buy a 1070
Thinking of going for MSI Gaming X since it matches my mobo. Is it a wise choice?

>>56256368
Only heavily oc'ed 290x to 1200Mhz at 4k almost on par with stock 980ti. Not besting it.

>>56256420
Had my Tri-X 290 do that

Felt batman

>>56256477
Doubt it helps

>>56256077
Round the same as a new 1070

>>56256798

1070 then

>Not a single fucking store in the country has a 480 in stock
No wonder that nvidia rules the market so much

To make it worse there like 10 billion version of a nvidia card while there are only 5 version of a amd card.

I got a R9 390 with a bit of an OC, did i fuck up

>>56256838
Because nobody wants AMD garbage mostly.

>>56256763
just get the cheapest you can buy.
I have Jetstream 1070 with default clock. Can OC up to 2100 boost and never go below 2000.
Run cool with active fan.

>>56256849
Well I don't want to spend the money on a 1070 (and that card is a bit overkill if you are only going to game on 1080p) so I'm stuck with the 480

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>>56256791

You sure about that?

>>56256847
Don't think so, it's a catd that still seems to hold up well.

>>56255576
My 1080 does it at 4K max settings at 120FPS.

>>56254832
Why can't peeps buy the best shit and be done with it?

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>>56257039

>in 4 year old games

>>56257084
Because the best shit is the most expensive shit

>>56256890
Well. upgraded my card from 290x to 1070 which on par with 980Ti. The fps diffrence at least 20 fps in most benchmark.

firestrike score 14000 for 290x oc to 1100/1525 while 1070 around 21000 OC to 2100 boost/4700.
Constant 60 fps on Metro 2033 redux at 1440p while 290x with frequent drop to 40fps.
290x still a really good card for 1080p though. Even batter than RX480.

>>56257105

You'll find in most DX12 games as of right now a 290x isn't far behind a 980ti - certainly close enough that the average overclock will catch it.

480 nitro finally started appearing in the shops here
going to buy one at the end of the month
Now i'm going to be memory/CPU bottlenecked out of the ass with 8320/PC3-12800 RAM

>>56257136

Overclock your cpu as far as you can.

>>56256330
An overclocked 980 ti still kicks your fucking teeth in and performs in par with a stock 1080.

>>56257088
Doom isn't 4 years old.

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>>56257168

Doom doesn't run at 120fps on nightmare settings at 4k. While there is no 1080 in this picture it would have to be twice as fast as a factory overclocked 1070 (which a 1080 just isn't no matter the clocks).

Any gigabyte 1080 g1 gaming here?

Are you OCing with the following software?
And how high are you able to go?

I haven't OCed yet but it seems the gpu lies around 1999mhz @ 73c during max load.
Not sure if it's worth OCing for an extra 100 or so hz if the temp is already this high.

>>56257205
73c isn't high and people pay hundreds of dollars for an extra 100mhz.

>>56257123
Only Fury line rival with 980Ti/1070 on Dx12 and Vulkan. 290x will catch up with 980Ti when NVidia stop optimized the driver on latest title.

>>56255521
The 1342mhz OC edition? Cant wait to find it to buy this shit

>>56257190
I was talking about Forza before, I get a solid 75-80 FPS on Nightmare settings. My i5 4670 screams more than my GTX 1080.

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>>56257235

You seem to think that hawaii doesn't catch the 980ti already in DX12.

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Does anyone know of any 1080's with a white PCB? I am tired of waiting on Galax to release their overpriced Hall of Fame line for 10x but see no alternative.

>>56255006
My Palit Dual 1070 died after not even 1 day.
Getting a Zotac one now.

>>56257289
Just buy a fucking Nvidia card already if you want Nvidia tier performance.

Every fucking thread for the past years you post your 5 slot 290x consuming 600w and try to convince people it's good as Nvidia counterparts when you know it isnt.

>>56256838
It's bloody miners man. They're all stocking on 480s like it's no tomorrow. I was enquiring some local stores about availability, and two of them came back with how many do I want. They honestly expect mining orders.

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is inno3d any good?

>>56257305
Get a screwdriver and some white spray paint.

>>56257346

>overclocking to get a higher tier performance is bad

Woah slow down there horsey. If I wanted gimped performance I would've bought a 780ti not a 290x in jan 2014.

>>56257368
I don't want to risk retarding my 700 dollar toy up though.

>>56257363
>I was enquiring some local stores about availability, and two of them came back with how many do I want

I'm not sure what to feel about this

>>56257363
Fucking miners why do we let them exist

>>56257373
I'd pitch in for you get a 1070 if you promise to shut the fuck up. You can probably sell your black screening 290x to some idiot for $150 and you would only be $200 away from a fast and efficient 150w 1070.

I ordered 1070 amp! Extreme instead of gaming x. Did I fuck up?

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>>56257458

Why are you so angry? No seriously I want to know so I can help.

>>56257223
It is high, but not "lethal" high.

>>56257432
They also abuse the RMA after running the cards 24/7, which makes retailers drop warranty for them in general. Real gamers get shafted on all fronts.

>>56257496

IIRC mining is why XFX stopped doing lifetime warranty.

>>56257496
So not only do I have to wait 2 weeks before I get my card but there is also a chance ny warranty will be dropped.

And here I thought the universe haven't found enough ways to shit on me this summer

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From my interpretation this amd slide claims Polaris should be 2x pref/watt than Maxwell.

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>>56257735
But look at these lying scumbags at TPU!

How can Nvidia keep getting away with it!

>>56257534
Should I even wait for the 480 or just get a 470

Oh boy another subreddit.

>>56257735

No, AMD was making that claim vs previous versions of GCN. Off the top of my head the 2x figure lines up with the 470 versus one of the other gcn 1.1 chips (not hawaii as the number would be well over 2x).

>>56257788
I'm waiting. Not a big time gamer anymore. All I'm buying it really is for Deus Ex and Kingdom Come. Hopefully my pussy cpu won't bottleneck it too much for a year till the next planned cpu/motherboard upgrade.

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>>56257305
>>>/fa/

>>56257869

I bet kingdom come is going to be a cpu killer solely because I have my doubts it will be very well threaded.

>>56257328
>Zotac
Be aware they have 2 8-pins for power

currently running an evga 980 ftw and a 4690k. how long can i expect this setup to last me if i play at 1080p?
will it be worth buying a 1070 if i find one on sale or wait for the next gen 1170 in 1.5 years time?

no memes please.

>>56257915

Times are changing anon - AMD has gained 11% marketshare in the last year. Another year of that and its gonig to be around 60/40 split.

http://jonpeddie.com/publications/add-in-board-report/

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>>56257898
>not being fah as fuck
>not caring enough about your hobby to BK have it your way
>not having visible internals that match the theme of your battlestation

plebians, you have to go back

>>56257953
i doubt this means anything. 90% of those extra amd sales are most likely for that new buttcoin mining thing that everyone is talking about. nvidia probably still dominates the gaming space.

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>>56257953
It's not going to hold. Open source weaklings always lose.

>>56257869
It's good that you can wait, but I'm completely free next week, the best store in the country won't get a 480 until another 11 days, legion is launching, I don't want to game anymore on my laptop and nothing in the 3DS library is going to hold me for one week.

So waiting is an option that's bitting away at me

>>56257949
anybody?

>>56257996
Just replaced my 7950 with an msi rx470 yesterday. Haven't gotten to do much testing with it, but the time I spent with it on overrated was nice. Went from med-high settings ~100 fps to ultra settings rock solid 120 fps. Cool, and whisper quiet. Something funky is going on with it, though. Did some quick testing using svp and it was running choppy as fuck. Gonna reinstall my drivers, and figure out how to force a performance retest. The gpu just kept ramping the clock, and then dropping.

I know it's having some weird shit going on with its readouts though. Unigine heaven was reading framerates down at 40, but there was zero jitter on my 120hz screen. Only saw one tearing artifact through the entire test. The overwatch perf readout couldn't even display the temperature, and my Crimson software was laggy as fuck when going into wattman. Actually crashed once. Pretty sure I just need to reinstall my drivers to fix most of my issues.

>>56258117
Time spent with it on overwatch* though the auto correct might have the right idea.

>>56257986
Bitcoin mining by GPU has reached a point where buying new hardware doesn't even pay anymore. ASIC miners have pretty much taken over almost the market for new mining hardware at this point.

>>56258117
So what you are saying is don't get a 470?

>>56257986

What? Sales are sales. Because they're won't do gaming suddenly the numbers don't count?

>>56258176
>buttcoin miners buy up 1000s of new cards
>all those cards fail after a few months
>get them replaced by amd
>inflate prices in the meantime

you are too dense to understand how badly this will affect amd in the long run. it's a minor boom in sales that won't last and will end up costing amd.

>>56258222

>>all those cards fail after a few months

Seriously? Even I know this is straight up bullshit. You are saying they have a 100% failure rate under warranty time by mining, do you have anything to back that statement up?

>>56258520
someone post the amd failure rates chart.

>>56254832
480 or Fury X

>>56258625

Does the chart have that 100% failure rate you claim?

>>56258158
Forgot to mention that the 470 was only using 1gb of vram while the 7950 was running at almost full capacity with 2.7 gb vram use. Vsync was on, so the frame rate was locked at 120. I'm saying that the performance increase was fairly substantial but in the short time I had with it I ran into some issues.

Theoretically, the software and drivers are all the same, but I'm pretty sure there are some missing tweaks since I didn't do a proper reinstall. They do list separate driver downloads between 7000 / 200-300 / and 400 series gpus. If the thread is still open, I'll report back after reinstalling the drivers. As far as svp is concerned, I know it has issues when you change hardware but it doesn't run its internal performance check.

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I had a reedit of my comparison of the MSI Gaming X cards (excluding GTX 1080/1070). Source is Guru3D who I trust more than some other sites.

Also it allows you to see how the same AIB partner compares on the same review site on the same test system.

I re-scaled the bars on some of the charts because they were not scaled the same for all reviews. It was a little guesswork but the numbers are the same so read the numbers and don't go by the bars alone.

>>56257949
>>56258107
Should be fine for awhile if only doing 1080p no need to upgrade.

Amd needs some love desu. No 480 and there would be no 1060 at 300. They'd ether lock that card in storage, or sell it for 500.

>>56258931 (You)
Ignore this one I put the 3Gb GTX 1060 on by mistake.

See.
>>56259561
For correct version.

>>56259041
What we need is a card that's between the 480 and 1070

>>56259626
Well if you overclock the 1060 it comes sorta in between.

>>56259647
We need a card that's between right from the box

>>56254911
forza is heavily optimized no matter what. 6 apex was a dream port.

390 is just an overall better card than 970. i don't think i've ever seen the 970 outperform it, even in gta v.

>>56256162

Why is this game fucking up everything. I Thought I could max out games in 1080p with a 1060gtx and now ppl are saying I'll be lucky to hit high settings? People said that my 3570k didn't need an upgrade either but now this game is so intensive on the CPU that I pretty much need to upgrade my entire computer.


I thought the difference between an overclocked 3570k and the latest CPUs were minimal.

debating selling my 980 to buy a zotac 1060
y/n
it'd be a sidegrade and cost me maybe $10

>>56259995
>He fell for the 'it will play 1080 games on high @ 60 indefinitely' meme.

The thing is. Games have progressively required faster GPU's @ 1080p to maintain 60 fps. Anyone can run old games at 60 fps. But newer games will lawats push the hardware further even in full HD resolution. It still requires render farms to make that latest CGI movie look good even in standard HD.

>>56259995
Cause it's a piece of shit

Don't worry about it

Set to med settings and enjoy.

>>56260140
>will always

>>56259995
Overclock the 3570K a little
I can get 60fps in most games with high|ultra / mostly high settings with mine at 4.2 and a reference 980, which is about on par with the 1060

>>56259678
>>56259647
>>56259626
Rx 490

>>56260209
But no such card exist

>>56260244
not him but i'm guessing it or something like it will come before the year end.

possibly a rx480 dual gpu.

>>56260209
Shut up, Pajeet. I need a card now, not in 2017's Christmas.

>>56257459
2 8-pin required
Enjoy house fire

>>56257242
No the 1306mhz version. The OC version was 15€ more expensive, I didn't think it was worth it.

>>56254832
I'm still running a 6870, AMD has withdrawn driver support for 6000-series cards, I am a scabby Irish student, want to upgrade for no more than €100-120, second hand 7950/7970 desu?

Is a used R9 285 worth $76.65?

Got a Asus strix 1080 for 601 on Amazon cause damaged box it's brand new in sealed package. Did I do well /vg/? With tax total was 655.

>>56258222
>>56258520

First off, no one hashes SHA-256 (Bitcoin's Algorithm) on GPUs anymore. ASICs have been around for several years now and you wouldn't even make a few cents in a year mining Butcoin with GPUs.

They mine Ethereum, an ALTERNATIVE currency that is not related to Bitcoin at all. Even the source code is entirely different and does not follow the same principles of Butcoin. It has smart contracts and all sorts of development tools for programmers that utilize block chain technology.

With that being said, it's very profitable right now to mine Ethereum with an RX 480. One RX 480 can make about $350/month in Ethereum and they cost around $250-280 at the moment.

I do admit that miners abuse warranties. They also don't use 95% of the GPUs features either. If anything AMD should probably embrace this market share a bit and release a GPU structured just for mining to separate gaymers and miners.

Got a 1060 armor Oc for 260. Seems better than my 750ti but WOW seems to run like shit after the patch

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>>56261383

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Got Micron memory in my MSI 1070. DO I return it? Anyone else gettin bad OC results?

>>56255843
What I really mean is how much a GPU heats up your room. Ive got a r9 390 and its unbearable in the summer here.

Id guess its the overall temps but that could just mean your fans are working very well.

>>56261658

Well the more effecient a cooler the less heat that is retained in the chip/whatever and more is dumped into the room.

Unless your gpu is running at full load 24/7 no gpu is going to heat up a reasonable sized room.

Managed to find a 980 for a couple of bucks cheaper then a 480. Do i Wait for the 480 to stock up or take the 980

390x for $180
Fury X for $275
1070 for $350

What would you buy?

>>56260986
You did well. I ordered the brand new one non-oc. I don't live in the US. So I ordered it global. I think I paid more than you did.

>>56255396
Why not save your money and not worry about taking for a while until you can afford a nice place to live where you don't have to worry about your shit getting stolen?

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>>56257476

What's the best make of 1070 ?

>>56262268
EVGA

Should I buy a 1060 now or a 1080 (1080Ti, if possible) in six months?

>>56262293
there's always something newer if you keep prolonging your purchase, just buy the best you can afford now

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Birthday is in 2 weeks. Do I spring for a 480 now for ~$280 or wait until they're back in stock at $200?

>>56259995

People are ass mad at it because it uses compute heavy effects. So they just explain it away that it's poorly optimized, when it runs like shit on their hardware.

AMD GPU's excel at compute, Nvidia stripped it out to give super fast shaders with high clock speeds.

It's also partially why their GPU's suck ass hole at asynchronous compute.

But Nvidia GPU's have a more efficient and streamlined design. With some nice tech like color compression and tile based rasterization means they can throw significantly less power at rendering graphics then AMD for the same work.

Just turn off the MSAA, that alone nets you anywhere from 10-20 frames on average. Then turn down shadows, and you should be good.

>>56262521
Get a RX480 Nitro+ OC 8gb faggot

What's the most silent graphics card on the market right now?
Idle. No watercooling.

>>56262645
Whatever uses large diameter fans on ball bearings with a fan controller that scales conservatively with heat.

>>56262645
Any of them with a 0db mode where the fans don;t spin

960 4gb for 135?
970 for 180?
1060 3gb for 200?

leaning towards the 960

i dont want the best card, I want the best price/perf

>>56262671
Could you name a few?

>>56262677

470.

>>56259832
>optimized
>runs like ass if you don't have at least 16 gb of ram
nah dude

>>56262689
i only buy nvidia

>>56259995
Disable AA for starters.
Disable bloom.
Disable Vsync
Disable lens flares
Disable dof
Disable motion blur(THIS IS PURE FUCKING CANCER)
etc

They don't make the game look good with the exception of AA. But Deus Ex doesn't handle AA very well because of technical reasons.

>>56262696

Enjoy your yearly upgrade treadmill then.

>>56260962
sure, just make sure it wasn't used for buttcoin mining like most amd cards from that time were.

>>56257363
They're fucking idiots the 470 is a better buy for them.

>>56262564
That looks like a pretty nice card actually. Something about using better components on the PCB itself besides software and cooling module changes too.

>>56262689
britbro? get the 1060 3g and overclock it to the moon. its like 180 quid now.

>>56262558

>AMD GPU's excel at compute, Nvidia stripped it out to give super fast shaders with high clock speeds.

I do find it amusing at the sheer amount of salt /g/ has when a game runs better on AMD hardware for whatever reason. Its almost as if this scenario is an affront to nature and needs to be cleansed old testament style.

>>56262769

The 3gb 1060 is a piece of shit given it has less cores than the 6gb version. Plus 3gb in 2016 is asking for pain.

>>56254832
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GXOX2BU/?tag=pcpapi-20
I bought this card for my pc.
Did I fuck up ?

>>56262721
>They're fucking idiots the 470 is a better buy for them.

it isn't. the 1070 is more than twice the hashrate than the 470 and 480 are despite drawing the same power.

only poorfags and marketing drones fall for the 'AMD is better for mining' meme now. it was only true when GPU mining buttcoins was going on.

>>56262789
then get the 970 for the same price. it's memory config is a meme that isn't an issue for anyone. also you can oc it to ~980 levels of performance which is a good bonus.

>>56262782

It's not just /g/ that happens on, it's everywhere. AMD is on an uphill battle. They can't get a fair shake in reviews, they have zero marketing, so they have to create situations like this that prove their hardware is just as competent. And we haven't even seen the effect Direct X 12 is going to have on this game. If it's this bad already, it's going to get even uglier for Nvidia.

>>56256162
IT'S OVER, NVIDIA IS FINISHED

KEKKKKKK

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>>56257915

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>>56256162
>Tfw you didnt fall for the Nvidia meme
they can shitpost how they have the "Better brand" all they want but when their cards get gimped its always a fucking lolocaust.

is it worth getting the R9 Nano if it's on sale? it's still a bit more expensive than the GTX1060 6GB though.

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>>56256162
m8

>>56262996

If you need a nano card, sure.

Otherwise just get a fury.

>>56256162
>480 less than a 290X
>480 as good as 290
>970 worse than 290
>380X worse than a 290

What the fuck is going on.

>>56262696
>bet price/perf
>nvidia

Pick one.

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i just need a reason to upgrade from my 770...shitty console ports need not apply

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>>56254832
>old 970 for 200€
did the same from some random dude,

OC'd it and it basically runs like a 980

>>56263050
Its an AMD Gaming Evolved™ game with the latest AMD GPUopen™ technologies giving you the AMD experience.

>>56263078

Frame Latency

>>56262710
>Upgrades are a bad thing
AMDnigger logic right here
Unlike AMD Nvidia actually makes advancements in technology, which means they have newer and better cards every year.

>>56263016

What cpu did they use?

>>56263050
the typical amd optimized game. a buggy and unreliable mess.

it's a shit game anyway so there's literally no reason to be discussing it anyway. 82 on fucking metacritic.

>>56263050

>380X worse than a 290

Thats exactly how it always was outside of extreme tessellation tests - the 290 basically has more of everything compared to the 380x.

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>>56263088
>>56263139

>I-I-I didn't want to play it anyway!

>>56263109
>getting shitty performance when the next gen comes out is a GOOD thing

I'm seriously starting to think that all Nvidia fans are genuinely retarded. Nvidia only produces "advancements" because their cards are inherently shitty and rely on gimmicks to maintain their performance. AMD makes good, general-purpose GPUs and thus doesn't need to change their gimmick every year.

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>>56263088
>implying nVidia can't optimize their drivers for it since it uses open source code.

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>>56263170
even if it was an nvidia game i wouldn't play it just like i didn't play fallout 4 because it was shit.

>>56261578
what's that supposed to mean

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Fuck EVGA
>literally push your 1070 FTW to 2113 core and like ~9000 mem clock
>see people post 104 avg fps on fucking Unigene Heaven benchmarks claiming that are running at stock speed
>pic related is what I cant get past

FUCKING BULLSHIT

>>56263183
They probably refused to do so just like they shrugged off FreeSync and decided to Jew us with Gsync instead

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>>56263173
Sure, whatever makes you comfy with your buyers remorse, AMDkek.

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>>56254832
So I have a 980ti classified that boosts up to 1400+Mhz, is there any reason to upgrade to any of the 10 series gpus? I am playing at 4k but turning down a few settings for dat der framerate isn't a big deal to me.

Pic related, my shit posting rig.

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>>56263173
Its amazing how AMDfags need to trick themselves into finding ways their GPU is better

sure, Nvidia getting way better raw performance in 90% of games is a "gimmick", but only supporting DX12 while having caveman level DX11 and OpenGL drivers isnt.

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>>56263620
Ummm old case edition, new define S. Also any advice on CPU coolers. Look for a quality AIO for OCing a 4790k

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>>56263602

Buyers remorse is buying a 900 series and finding out it gets curb stomped in every modern benchmark and realizing Nvidia just bent you the fuck over.

>>56263643

Enjoy buying new GPU's every year.

>>56263643
I own both AMD and Nvidia in 2 separate rigs and to be honest, I'm completely satisfied with both. They both have their strengths and weaknesses although Nvidia does have a stranglehold on top performance in 90% of games but the price for performance has always gone to AMD. Nvidia is slightly better at everything and they remind you when it comes time to pay for your GPU.

>>56263518

Valley has more cpu overhead than most people think.

>>56263655

EK predator is the only (and I do mean only) good closed loop you can buy. If you can't into that, get a top tier air cooler.

>>56263713

>I guzzled the electric green kool-aid.

>>56263753
Thats not Valley, its Heaven.

>>56263518

heaven isn't a good benchmark. OCing core on my 970 shows no gain in it but OCing memory shows huge gains in it, while i get exactly the opposite results in real world gaymen and 3d work.

>>56263050
The 480 wasn't ever better than the 290.

>>56263952
Point is that others run stock clock 1070s and get 104fps on avg while I run a 1070 that is completely over the top OCed and cant even get past 101, its fucking shit. Makes me mad as hell.

>>56263183

only a portion of AMD's effect library is open source, and that's '''open source''' as in open to read, not open to modify or redistribute.

>>56259995
Its a shit game, nothing else. There isnt even a reason for that game to have hardware requirements this high. It looks complete fucking shit.

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>>56263956

According to TPU's bench suite the 480 is better.

>>56254944
>Buying a graphics card for its inted purpose, how dare you!!!!!1!!1!1!1!1!111!!1!one1111!!!!

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>>56264011
Real world benchmarks say that there's no meaningful difference at all.

>>56264075

I would guess games are generally stressing GCN in a way where polaris comes ahead. Even if the 480 matches a 290 thats impressive given how much more of everything (except memory I guess) hawaii has compared to polaris.

>>56263206
>I didnt play X game but i know its shit! Just trust me on this one!

>>56256838
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/

>>56256838

it's because 14LPP has trash yields. thanks samsung and globalfoundries!

Can people stop to bring up DXMD? That shitty game even has a memory leak and runs at 8.5GB for some people. Everything about that game is broken.

>>56264146
i have played both games and they're both shit.

>>56262521
If you're going to be spending close to 300 you might as well get a Nitro Fury as they often go on sale for $300 nowadays.

>>56264303
>not having 24GB RAM

>>56262695
i ran it fine on an 8gb rig, haven't played it since i got up to 16gb but if you run any less than 8 in 2016 you're selling yourself short anyway.