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>How is it that a year old iPhone with 2GM of RAM perform

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>How is it that a year old iPhone with 2GM of RAM performs better than a brand new Galaxy Note with 4GB of RAM?

It's almost like Apple uses their RAM to work well with their phones instead of throwing in pointless GB of RAM to just attract the techporn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-61FFoJFy0
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>>56241078
Fucking brutal. Android, not even once.
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>>56241078
It's almost as if they used completely different software which makes spec comparison totally useless.
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Sigh, anon more ram is better not less. Would you like 100 or 50? Its the same question. Anyway apple can cut on the production cost because IOS is effecient with memory. Just imagine IOS running on a fully specced android phone with 6GB. Apple only gets their processor, internal flash memory right, camera and IOS right.
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>>56241078
And then they completely fuck up everything with OS limitations that make the phone unusable to most powerusers
>OS limitation of 100MB file size max even if you're on motherfucking unlimited 5G. Need that 2Mbps Cafe free Wifi though.

Enjoy browsing facebook faggot
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>>56241365
>The iOS in that image in at least 4 years old.

Try it with a new iPhone and you won't see that problem.
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>>56241404

Yeah, you will see this one instead.
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>>56241365

Lo and behold. Got that message today, since a new version of iMovie was some 640 Mb but it downloaded the update anyway, despite bitching for wifi.
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>>56241365
lol this fucking pic is gold, gotta be ios5 or some shit and this idiot thinks he's made a valid point
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>>56241411
Android totally makes up for being slow by allowing you to burn through your data cap.
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>>56241078
>Galaxy
IPhone is not alone here, TouchWiz automatically degrades performance to 2-3 years old level.
http://www.xda-developers.com/with-the-note-7-samsung-still-delivers-embarrassing-real-world-performance/
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>>56241433
>data cap
How fucking poor are you?
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>>56241433
>he doesn't know you can limit and set warnings for your data cap
>not just paying for unlimited or more than 12 gb
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>>56241434
>Make super nice phones
>Put the most horrid skin on Android known to man on them
Fucking hell. I've got a Z5 and I appreciate that their UI changes are incredibly minor on modern phones and actually improve it, rather than clutter it up.
>>56241443
Not all people in all places have the option.
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>>56241078
>Touchjizz
Found the problem
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>>56241389
>he believes in meme resolutions
You literally can't see better than that.
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>>56241411
I've never seen this.
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>>56241487
Hard to see it when you never leave your mom's basement where you have a constant WiFi connection
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>>56241520
Nice meme, but I don't even connect to Wi-Fi in my house.
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>>56241429
I recently returned my iPad Pro because it refused to download files for my work that were over 100 MB. Got a galaxy tab instead and behold I can actually work on this thing.

>>56241432
The most recent iOS has a 100MB limitation instead.

>>56241433
On Android I get a warning that I can ignore. Also, I have no data cap. I have a 200Mbps unlimited 4G and 5G(about 15€/mo) since I am lucky enough to enjoy superior European mobile connections. I have no need for a WiFi like most here and iOS makes everything unusable with this 100MB cap.

Recently tried to update my parents iPhone SEs since they were having problems with that. It was this same issue. They have no WiFi but unlimited 4G and iOS refused to update. Had to make my Note a hotspot for them to DL updates.

iDrones will defend this.
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>>56241528
Dirty Europeans taking to lying again.
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>>56241526
I see you're livin' on the Edge
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>>56241443
Personally, not poor. I also don't have a data cap with my service. I don't get why you would say that? It is obvious that Apple are targeting the vast majority of consumers with their devices, who likely do have download caps.
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>>56241528
>work
>on a tablet

Should have gotten a Surface
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>>56241554
Nope, I get full LTE in every part of this place.
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>snapoven variant
>comparing a QHD res phone with low res HD one (not even full HD
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>>56241528
>I recently returned my iPad Pro because it refused to download files for my work that were over 100 MB
This limit is only on the App Store and iTunes (apps and media), help me out here what work files refused to download?
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>>56241571
>Surface

I heard there is a limitation on Microsoft devices too so I didn't even consider one. Is this true?
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>>56241598
>excuses
Maybe the phone would be faster if you didn't try to drive ridiculous displays.

Or maybe it's the eMMC storage.
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>>56241598
"Muh 4K" on a 5 inch screen

Anything higher than 1080p is overkill, anything lower than 720p is shit.
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>>56241672
>its a ridiculous feature
>until my Gaypple™ Device™ get that feature.

5 years in the future:
>Gaypple™ releases new device with that feature.
>Gaypple™ did it first and its better.
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>>56241229
>nuh uh you can't compare this smartphone to that smartphone!
t. (You)
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>>56241078
With 4GB RAM I could have loaded in RAM EVERY app in my app drawer. I already can load and keep running all but two apps(browser and Titan Quest) with just 2GB. Not Android's fault Samsung botches fucking everything.
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>>56241722
Y u mad?
Everyone knows most features suck until Apple uses them because they actually use them wisely and not as a gimmick.

fingerprint sensors were on phones before but the Touch ID on the iPhone is the top-rated one.

Payment services were nothing new but Apple Pay is the top-rated payment service on a phone.
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>>56241722
Nice strawman.
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>>56241636
No. The surface is literally no different than any other windows machine in terms of bloat or being locked down. I've been using a Windows tablet for almost a year now, got the nextbook flexx 10.1 and planning to buy a surface next summer or so when I have more money.
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>>56241755
FP sensor on iPhones sucks ass even when compared to chink phones. It's so fucking slow, Jesus.
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> Anything not Stock Android or Nexus

found your problem.
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>>56241411
You can bypass this by rebooting your ios device after you pressed OK. ios will automatically start downloading the app, regardless on which network type you are on. Not the most elegant solution, but it works.
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>>56241788
I know, it's so slow that when my friend uses his Touch ID, the phone is already unlocked by the time he rests his entire thumb on the reader.
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>>56241883
Nah m8, it takes a good fucking second to unlock. On chink phones you can register up to 10 fingers and each will be recognized instantly.
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>>56241722
No, it's just a ridiculous feature.
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>>56241911
>up to 10 fingers
Racist.
#LMAOLivesMatter
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>>56241911
>Nah m8, it takes a good fucking second to unlock.
Nope. How much sludge is on your sensor?
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>>56241672
>Maybe the phone would be faster if you didn't try to drive ridiculous displays.
The problem is they're really not. You can easily tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p especially on a 5.7" screen.

>Or maybe it's the eMMC storage.
Nah, both have pretty dam fast internal storage and load up 20-40MB chunks of data in less than a second.
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>>56241672
Resolution only hurts 3d apps and storage speed is enough(reads are 80MB/s even on 2014 phones), the problem is Samsung.
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>>56242206
>Resolution only hurts 3d apps
It also hurts 2D apps. There's always a penalty for displaying something 2X the resolution. A lot of apps have vectorised UIs which need to be rendered.
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this is just an ssd speed test.
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>>56242133
You can easily tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p especially on a 5.7" screen. Maybe YOU can, but most people can't. The 'Retina Display' formula is based on the visual acuity of someone with 20/20 vision.
>Nah, both have pretty dam fast internal storage and load up 20-40MB chunks of data in less than a second.
iPhone's NVMe storage is miles ahead.
>>56242206
>(reads are 80MB/s even on 2014 phones
That's pathetic. Worse than hard disk drives 10 years ago.
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Thank god I have a nexus
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>>56242255
It does, but not in an obvious way - Android loads different resolution UI assets depending on the dpi(if the app supports that. Android UI does), so higher res screen phones will use heavier assets. On the same assets there won't be any noticeable difference.
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>>56242284
>hard disk drives
You will wait for reading heads to move longer than you'll actually read the data. 80 is more than enough.
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>>56242337
>You will wait for reading heads to move longer than you'll actually read the data.
What is your point?
>80 is more than enough.
Clearly it is not.
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>>56241078
How and why?
Ask the developers of Android who thought that it was a good idea to make an operating system in Java.
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>>56242379
isn't only UI made in Java while OS is made in C/C++ ?
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>>56242314
It was one of the reasons for Nexus 9's RAM problems - changing the dpi solved them.
>>56242373
My point is even if the HDD would be 10 times higher speeds it would be slower than emmc.
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>>56242402
The OS and any apps worth shit are written in C or C++.
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>This many excuses from fandroids
Just admit it people, samshit is cancer
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>people always refer Android as Samsung
>literally forgot this was caused by shit optimization on samsung software
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>>56242426
>admit
Way too late, m8
>>56241434
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>>56241868
I though iPhone was supposed to be "it just werks"?
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>>56242421
https://youtu.be/TDBTiwjTT0k
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>>56241078
>Samsung

Why do people treat this company as the main provider of android? Considering how bloated and full of crap touchwizz is to the point they may as well name themselves Acer its obvious a dated IOS phone would keep up.

Samsung are probably the second biggest joke of a company to enter the mobile market with microsoft taking the lead.
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>>56241911
It seriously doesn't. You're being delusional.
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The Note 7 with stock android would be god tier.
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>>56242720
but what makes it different with other stock android?
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>>56242545
Java is alright for number crunching actually, but it keeps all objects in heap and doesn't even have real arrays - the CPU can't effectively cache that. On object manipulation tests it can be ten times as slow as even C#. And gc introduces unpredictable delays. On top of all that many retarded devs make heavy computations in the UI thread. It's all very nasty.
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>>56242720
Especially when using caf sources. Especially if there would be a dev crazy enough to backport optimizations from the latest Linux kernel versions. All this can easily triple the lifetime of the device.
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>>56241813
What other phones apart from Nexus use stock android?
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>>56241598
This, the exynos version is vastly superior to the snapdragon one
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>>56242866
There's official AOSP for Sony Z series and unofficial for pretty much everything.
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>>56241433
>having a cap so small 100mb makes a huge impact
Americans everyone
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>>56241672
Samsung use UFS 2.0 for internal storage, definitely faster than eMMC but still not match with Apple's NVMe storage though.
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>>56242745
Note 7 has amazing hardware held back by shit, bloatware by samsung. Unless they build an android from the ground up instead of updating Touchwizz, their phones will continue to be slow
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3kTDeHUk4Q

what makes OP3's performance so fucking good? even the nexus 6P still have that horrible lag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtBHW5Nn2zI
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>>56243045
Because if they'd use stock android it would make no sense and ot wouldn't make their phones standout only fags who have never own a decent samsung phone will say muhh touchwizz lagggg xDd
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>>56242976
Well I live in the UK, but yeah this is 100% the fault of US telcos.
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>>56243168
A phone with the best hardware combined with the best software makes plenty of sense. Only customise it to accommodate the s-pen and it's closest phone we've ever had to perfection.
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>>56241078
How often will you repost this shitty thread?
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>>56241475
You're a blind idiot then.
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Ios is fucking optimised to hell, this disables you to be able to do what you want with your phone however enables you to open apps faster although if that ifag was smart he would disable the "pretty" animation that opens apps and it would be 10x faster
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>>56243675
You're an idiot, the app launch process and animation don't conflict with one another they compliment one another.
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>>56243106
iPhone 6s is such a beast. It destroyed all of those.
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>>56241078
RAM has very little I'd anything to do with launching an app. The biggest difference is that the iPhone I'd still the only phone I am aware of that uses a PCIe interface and NVME for its flash storage instead of eMMC like most phones.

Now I don't know if things have changed with the new flagship android phones, but I do believe that continues to be the state of things. They may use the newest and fastest eMMC standard, but it's still not as fast as an NVME SSD in a phone.
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>>56241487
Don't fucking lie. It's a well known ios restriction. Stop pretending like your preferred platform has no faults you faggot.
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>>56243758
This. RAM only increases the maximum number of apps running/cached. Why don't they make Android phones with SSD storage though? It seems like a much better investment than just pumping up their screen size, 1080p was enough everything more is a battery waste.
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>>56243778
>But it doesn't have faults.

Apple or Bust!
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>>56241078
>It's almost like
we'are not on facebook
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>Expecting anything good out of Samshit.

$400 chinkphone beats the S7 edge.
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>>56243778
I'm not lying. I know it exists I just haven't ever seen it. I'm more curious why I haven't.
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>>56241078
HAHAHAHHAH/// HOLY FUCKING SHIT MANG.... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

OCTO-CORE + 4GB of RAM is totally OBLITERATED by a fucking 2 CORE 2GB RAM device.

TOTALLY OBLITERATED!!!

What the fuck does Apple have in that A9??? Blood of virgins or sometrhing?


That's fucking witchcraft.
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>>56241443
In nz we have 4g maximum and they charge us $59 for 3.5 gb a month.
Having said that our country has impossible infrastructure
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When has samsung ever been the performance benchmark?

Does /g/ even like samsung phones at all? My only experiences with samsung phones is people 'tolerating' the shitty UI and then flashing cyanogenmod or whatever 'well regarded' third party ROM only to lose battery life / stability / performance / camera / whatever else. You can never get them "right" like other phones and just leave it.
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>>56241817
I can't
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How is it that iShit needs to run at an embarrassing 320x240 to beat out a 8K phone by only 1 second?
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>>56241078
>not comparing it to the 6S Plus
>SD version of the Note
>Touchjizz
>he thinks 4GB RAM is bad
>1136x640
>iCuck still missing features other phones had years ago
Pajeets can go back to poo now.
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A10 hitting 3000 in single core?
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>>56245526
>samshills being delusional

nothing new
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Android will always be laggy because it's made for the lowest common denominator.

For example Android doesn't fully use GPU acceleration for the UI because phones with 1gb RAM couldn't handle it. So even the Note 7 is laggy.

And if you go into third party apps, it's a fucking disaster.
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fucking android and samsung. using samsung has no fucking redeeming factor anyway.
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>>56245526
>iShit has abysmal performance in real world even compared to samshit

lmao
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>>56241636
Limitation? It's an ultrabook in a tablet form factor
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