so now that the dust has settled, what's the consensus on

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it serves it purpose mostly, but its a bit undercut by the 1060 that can edge it out in many situations. But regardless, the 1060 does cost more.

The 480 fails in regard to the RX 470. The 470 is cheaper and offers practically the same performance. It doesn't do enough to differentiate itself from the 470.

If we simply look at the Polaris line: yes; Polaris was a success. But individually, the 480 is stuck in a bad position between the 1060 and the 470.

>>56235069
How good is the FP64?

>>56235134
naruhodo...

>>56235134
what's your favorite anime

>>56235167
what does this have to do with anything

>>56235204
just answer the question pls

>>56235204
I just want to know.

>>56235213
>>56235220
No.

>>56235238
then get out of her thread, this is an anime website
>>>/reddit/

>>56235069
RX480 is for people who want to spend ~$200 for a GPU they'll keep for maybe 3 or more years.

GT 1060 is for people who want to spend ~$200 on a GPU that will perform a little better than the RX 480 for a while then mysteriously worse the moment Volta cards come out in a year or two.

>>56235252
>anime posters are superior to non-weebs
Fuck Off. This is /g/

>>56235160
ITS YOU! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

>>56235281
anime websIte

>>56235283
nani?

>>56235289
Is this why people hate tripfags? Jesus Christ

>>56235134
only thing were the the 480 is really a beast is VR and DX12/Vulcan rest is true of your comment

>>56235259
/Thread

>>56235312
ahh yes, forgot to mention that. As well as computation if anyone is into that.

>>56235134
This. If you want to save, 470. If you want better performance, 1060.

>>56235332
im going to play games on it

>>56235309
so you can filter them.

I love Maki!

>>56235479
I love you!

>>56235370
only in dx11 games better performance you should add

>>56235537
Well if you're willing to run the botnet you might as well get the worst card of the 3 and go with the 480.

>>56235415
Refer to
>>56235370
>>56235537
>>56235312

>>56235479
>>56235527
>>56235069
Fuck off, degenerate waste of space

>>56235806
your quoting 3 different people desu...

>>56235585
470 if you play on 1080p 60fps high to max or 144fps shooter
1060 if you want to max dx11 games on 60fps
480 if you want to max out most dx11 games on60fps and have really good performance (fury level) on dx12/vulcan which gives you furture proofing the 1060 can´t give you.

>>56235835
with shooter i mean cs:go or lol and dota2 and all the other f2p games run 144fps easy with it.

>>56235069
RX 480 is £230 in uk
GTX 1060 is £239

:|

>>56235941
>£
how much is that in real money

>>56235941
>people tell me that the 390x is way better than the 970
>mfw it costs almost twice as much in my bumhole
AMD can't into competitive pricing outside of the US it seems.

>>56236010
in Canada at least, pricing has been well. The Fury X retails $200 under the 980 Ti here

How much did it sell? Will AMD stock skyrocket again at next earnings? The 480 wasn't included in the last one.

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I'm going to marry Maki!

>>56236075
you must be into cuckolding

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>>56236093
No, I'm into Maki!

>>56235069
>>56236075
>>56236118
Dumb anime poster

>>56236127
anime websIte

The 480 is an utter failure. The 470 is a decent value card. The 460 is an iGPU slapped onto a PCB that ends up barely outperforming the 750ti.

As usual, AMD promised too much and delivered dogshit. Their perf/watt isn't even better than NVIDIA's perf/watt was two years ago.

>>56236142
He is not complaining about people posting anime, he is stating that the people who post anime is dumb as fuck, just like you.

>>56236118
we're all into her ;)
i bet you'd like dressing up as maki too faggot

>>56236142
t r i p f a g

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>>56235069
- Major power issues
- Worse than a 1060 for the same price

It's pretty shit desu senpai.

>>56235259
>mysteriously worsen
What?

>>56236367
Conspiracy that NVidia gimp's their old card's performance via drivers.

>>56236144
>As usual, AMD promised too much and delivered dogshit.
They promised that the RX 480 has GTX 970 performance, while still within the $200 range, which is what we got. The biggest issue I would say that they had was the supply of 480s.

>>56236407
>They promised that the RX 480 has GTX 970 performance,

they promised 2.6x perf/watt improvement and delivered a less than 1.5x perf/watt improvement.

>They promised that the RX 480 has GTX 970 performance,

AMD never made any claims about raw performance in their marketing materials.

>while still within the $200 range,

the 480 is de facto a $240 card, the 4gb variant isn't even being sold.

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>>56236376
Do people really believe this?

>>56236440
Nobody actually believes it because it's not true, but AMDtards love to say it every chance they get because they love to lie.

Just like AMDtards love to say the 10 series has no hardware async, when it clearly does.

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>>56236457
Gotta try and sell their shitty cards somehow I suppose.

I just find it hilarious every time gimping is brought up because my gtx 680 is still performing fine, my brothers gtx 570 is still running shit fine, and my mates hd 6870 sucks shit in everything released in 2015 and newer.

He upgraded to a 1070 last week cause he got tired of AMDs shit.

>>56236440

no. it's BS that amd shills perpetuate to justify themselves buying overclocked rebrands and 'supporting the underdog'.

>>56236440
yes, no idea why they do. It comes from the "AMD drivers boost performance over time" thing.
>>56236457
This is partially true. Pascal can't get the same margins of gain that AMD does.

>>56236498
don't let your inner NVidia goy out

>>56236499
>Pascal can't get the same margins of gain that AMD does.

only because more of the pascal gpu is already utilized, 'async' has become a catchall term for any design pattern or technique that improves utilization of AMD's GPUs, something that is a big problem in DX11 (just google for info on amd driver overhead, they've been dealing with this for years)

>>56236525
Async compute is the gpu equivalent of hyper threading, how much a card gains doesn't always relate to how much is being utilized. Their driver overhead is only CPU related too.

>>56236440
>>56236457
it's a semi-meme that came to be because the HD 7000/8000 (1st gen GCN) series aged better than the GTX 600/700 (Kepler) series, due mostly to continuity of architectures.

pascal isn't really much more than a shrunk down maxwell, so the GTX 900 series should probably have decent driver support longevity.

>>56236490
yeah, the HD 6000 series (TeraScale 2/3) support got dropped about as hard as Fermi did.

I'm rocking a Radeon 7770, what graphics card should I buy abd how much is it, considering I don't wanna spend over 250

470 is such a good deal desu. for a midrange card.

what the h*ck is all this nerd talk I just wanted to know if it's good for games

>>56236598
Fermi is still getting game ready drivers, but unfortunately it seems like it won't be crying dx12.

Could probably thank AMD and their terrascale shenanigans for that

>>56236634
NO

>>56236634
>>56235134
^^^ poster here
/g/ isn't tech support, fuck off to /v/ if that's all you care about

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>>56236434
>they promised 2.6x perf/watt improvement and delivered a less than 1.5x perf/watt improvement.
I thought that claim was under "ideal conditions" with Vulkan?

>AMD never made any claims about raw performance in their marketing materials.
I know they promised over 5 teraflops of peak performance. Pic related.

>the 480 is de facto a $240 card, the 4gb variant isn't even being sold.
You can find 4 GB models off Newegg for under $240 (when they're in stock), but from what I heard they have 8 physical GB. I was thinking of getting Sapphire's card for $229, but apparently it gets over 80 C even with an aftermarket cooler on it.

>>56236567
>how much a card gains doesn't always relate to how much is being utilized
This is completely false. For async to provide a performance boost the card must have execution units (cores/shaders/whatever you want to call them) that are sitting idle and are not being used during 3D rendering. This can and does happen, due to scheduling, the load the software (game) places on various components of the GPU, etc. Those idle units can be used for async compute, because they're not doing anything else otherwise and you're now getting better performance by offloading some more shit to the GPU which had resources available anyway.

Now, if the card does not have as many idle processing resources, then it won't gain as much from async. If AMD can't feed its GPUs properly in DX11, they will partly remain idle. And they indeed cannot, as evident by their forever recurring issues with DX11 CPU overhead. In come DX12 and Vulkan and suddenly not only is the CPU overhead issue vastly improved, but you can even use async to get even better use out of the GPU. If a different GPU arch (Pascal for instance) doesn't benefit as much compared to DX11, it can mean that:
>NVIDIA is capable of feeding its GPUs properly even in DX11, or at least does a better job than AMD
>NVIDIA's arch may be less prone to leaving processing resources idle

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I'm more of a drafting guy than a gamer but fuck it I'll put my two cents in
Honestly as long as it has good FPS I'm fine

>>56236712
ahh ok thanks anon. I understand what you meant now.

>>56235134
>260 instead of 275 dolloors
seriously what the fuck is with these cocksuckers and their god awful pricing?

>>56236634
It's not bad but has some issues and the 1060 is better

it burns motherboards very nicely

>>56236490
>mates hd 6870 sucks shit in everything
literally runs everything at 1080p (while also powering another monitor) fine, just fine...
although only 1gb is being a real pain in the ass now.
kinda regret not getting the 2gb, but that was priced like $40 more

>>56235069
>rx480
>not nani sore edition
dropped

>>56236619
a second 7770

>>56236697
these cards can reach over 90 before force shutoff
and over 100 before any actual damage happens

>>56238322
Gta v 1080p 55fps average low settings.

Same cpu my brothers gtx 570 averages 60 fps on low with some settings turned up.

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>>56236457
>"Pascal can't into async compute"
>"yes it can"
>"no it can't'
>"YES. IT. CAN. REEEEEEEEE!!!!"

>>56236634
>>>/v/

>>56236712

>I make shit up for fun, possibly profit.

>>56238686
no they do it for free

>>56238349
That's too hot for me. I might get an MSI RX 470 to replace my R9 280x. Thoughts?

>>56238850
you're going to buy a rebrand because?
how does the ammount of heat it holds affect you?
turn up the fan speed if it matters that much...

>>56235069
Kill yourself stupid manchild
>>>/v/
>>>/a/

>>56238850
>MSI RX 470 to replace R9 280x
I'd say go for it. I replaced my 3Gb R9 280 with a 470 and the difference in performance was like night and day.

The 480 received more attention than it deserved, while the 470 snuck in under the radar.

>>56235069
still too early too tell, wait until vulkan gets widespread implementation.

>>56238881
>you're going to buy a rebrand because?
Because it will run cooler and quieter than a reference blower card. Also as of right now, you can get the MSI one for cheaper than any reference card on Newegg, so why not?

>how does the ammount of heat it holds affect you?
Well a card with less heat is always nice, and more heat = faster fan RPMs.

>turn up the fan speed if it matters that much...
My 280x doesn't hit 60 C as it has Gigabyte's cooler on it, but man does it get loud, even with over ear, closed back, headphones on.

>>56238912
The 470 and 480 seem close enough in performance to not justify the extra cost, at least for me. I was either going to upgrade this generation or maybe wait until the 5xx series to see if they come out with a new architecture.

>>56239050
>The 470 and 480 seem close enough in performance to not justify the extra cost
I, and many others like me, agree. The extra $ isn't worth the 5-10% performance improvement, especially when you can overclock the 470 easily.

Here in Australia, the cheapest custom 470 is $299, whereas the cheapest custom 480 is $100 more.

For price
Its a win

For performance
Its a lose

>>56239435
>For price
>Its a win
>For performance
>Its a lose
For both it's a loss. The 470 is far better value for the performance it delivers.

>>56235069
Mobo destroyer, wait another 3 months before massive PCI-E failures.

>>56239419
Jesus man. 1 like = 1 prayer. Over here in Midwestern US, the cheapest 470 is $189 (which is an ASUS card with aftermarket cooler on it surprisingly), while the cheapest reference 480 is $199. Sapphire's aftermarket 480 is $239. This is of course when the cards are actually in stock.

>>56239766
Don't believe the Australians shitposting. They make $17/hour as minimum wage.
They LOVE to complain that the prices are high, but the fuckers completely forget that's what happens when you devalue you own fucking money and hand it out like free candy.

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>>56236440

Coincidence or conspiracy?

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>1060

>>56236725
Me too senpai, CFD doesn't require that much, unless mesh is tiny. Still dont need crazy fps

>>56239981
Wtf, I hate nvidia now

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>>56240112

>>56236031
why are you pathetic losers always lying on the internet?
450$ is the cheapest old garbage i could find.
check newegg ca, you immature child.

Maki! I love maki! She's a cute lesbian, better than that whore lain.

>>56235876
>LOL, and DoTA 2
>Shooters

Choose 1.

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>>56235319

>>56235069
depends on regional pricing, ultimately. it was a massive flop here because its like $50 more than a 1060.

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>>56240892
>Choose 1

No

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>>56235941
are you blind or something?

>>56241114
is this proof of id's Vulkan optimization skills or of AMD's incompetence with the legacy drivers?

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loud as fuck

>>56242760
rip H110 we hardly knew ya

>>56242775
it's actually 111ºF so i guess it's ok?

>>56242700
I'd prolly say it shows how bad the drivers were when ATi was independent. AMD once they acquired ATi has done an about face with the drivers IMO. I have some old ass ATi All in Wonder cards and Theater Pro's etc. The drivers were always ass even Nvidia's over the years. I don't recall anything good or bad about Matrox, Savage, or Voodoo though as that has left my mind. Nothing memorable.

>>56242798
it should be at 110C, that's what it's named after.

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RX 480 IS GPU OF THE YEAR

1080p@60FPS GAMING FOR ONLY $200
4GB MODELS CAN BE CONVERTED TO 8GB MODELS
YOU CAN'T BEAT THIS DEAL

>>56243049
I'll add that my experience with Nvidia as of late though is that the drivers and software look out of date and almost budget tier. ATi's were that way previously and Nvidia will eventually get with the times. Hopefully the kit runs better when Nvidia does a refresh as it's slow as balls atm.

>>56238850
Msi rx470 out for delivery right now. Pretty excited.
>>56238912
Replacing my Sapphire 7950, expecting pretty big gains overall. What was your 280 clocked at? I've been running 1025 core and 1400 memory.

>>56243283
i didnt actually get to see the performance but the msi rx 470 has pretty noticable sagging

>>56243375
I'll be sure to pay attention for sagging. I've always nudged the card up and locked down firmly with the locking screws. Never once had an issue with sagging.

>>56243283
My Sapphire 7950 runs around 1150/1450. It's still an amazing card and pulls well over 2k in valley bench on an old i5 2500k. Amazing how well those cards aged as did the drivers.

>>56236010
390x also isn't meant to compete with the 970. It competes with the 980. The normal 390 is the 970's competitor.

>>56236010
Well first few days the rx480 was 219 then sold out and had stayed at this price for a while now.

>>56238881
>Rebrand

Being this retarded wew lad

Back to ocn nvidia shill

>>56243624

/g/ does genuinely believe its okay when Nvidia does it. See: 770.

>>56243420
>1150 cote
Mine crashes drivers over 1090. Won't sustain over 1030 even with the power draw increased by 20% I tried balancing between 1090 / 1200 and 1025 / 1450. Overall on unigen heaven best performance was 1030 / 1400, it'll run 1450 memory but those Temps.

>>56235152
Literally no one cares about fp64.

I'm looking forward to getting my MSI 480. Just waiting for it to ship. Should be a decent sidegrade to my 290 that failed the silicon lottery with an 8% oc at +5% power limit. Besides that it hopefully won't heat up my whole house. Given that Oregon has had multiple 100 degree days that would be nice.

>>56235134
>480 doesn't matter because 470
>doesn't do enough to differentiate itself from the 470

First of all, the price difference between the 470 and 480 is as small as the performance difference. So to many people, the 470 may seem pointless for being barely cheaper but offering less performance (when the price difference is so small that some 480s are cheaper than some 470s). Secondly, the 480 came first. So it's the 470 that "doesn't do enough to differentiate itself" from the 480, not the other way round.

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>>56235069
I honestly couldn't give a shit

I used all the hype around the new cards to land me a cheap aftermarket 980ti for almost the same price as a new 480.

My card is about 40-50% more powerful, especialy when oc'd, I'll do the same when the next generation of cards hits

your all idiots stop posting in my thread

>>56244160
Suppose I'm lucky as I haven't seen temps over 70-75C under full load. Depends on the game sometimes.

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>>56244551

>My card is about 40-50% more powerful

Not all the time it isn't.

I'm hoping the rumors about the 490 are true. Two 480 on an interposer, though I suspect the logic traces would be a bitch and a half.

>>56244656

I doubt that will be vega - Navi is more likely.

>>56244593
No obviously not all the time, but most of the time it is, and in the games I play it definately is

>>56244551
Does the 980 Ti support DX12?

>>56244741
Yes, do AMD cards support dx11?

>>56244707
490 is going to release before Christmas. Sapphire and AMD accidentally released that information with an advertising mistake. Vega won't be ready until Q2 2017

>>56244757

[citation needed]

>>56244768
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-490-4k-gaming-card/

>>56244592
Well, yeah with a custom fan curve. But that's pretty warm after a while, and the noise is ridiculous. Though I finally got around to doing my sound dampening addition to the basement of my case. Butyl rubber flashing tape, man. Huge difference in noise levels. 60%+ fan speeds? Almost barable with headphones off. Also think there was a big difference since I now have my pc on my desk, instead of on the floor next to me. So all the sound escaping through the top vent is over my head. Might put the silence lid back on to check Temps since I still have no fans installed up top.

>>56244794
>believing anything from that piece of shit.

>>56244794

I wanted evidence, not complete conjecture based upon badly misunderstanding a roadmap.

>>56243283
There was only one thing that put me off the MSI 470 and that was the PCB gettiing to near 100c.

Could've snagged an 8gb for £200.

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If Pascal did hardware async it would do a lot better in Doom using Vulkan. Oh what's that you say? You are still waiting for a driver fix from Nvidya?

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>>56247216

lol pre-emption.

>>56247264
Good luck Nvidiots waiting for that

>>56236490
Those were more expensive and powerful cards that came out later or much later to begin with, you absolute tard.

>>56238881
>Die shrink
>Rebrand

Are Nvidia shills really this delusional? Or are they just retarded?

Not that amd shills are much better.

>>56235069
It's literally a 8GB GTX 1060 (if you OC it it goes even higher), for less money.

You need to be seriously retarded to prefer a 1060.

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>>56247535

Don't worry, surely fermi will get DX12 support, Nvidia said so. Actually fermi getting DX12 support would make their newer cards look like shit in comparison due to the hardware scheduler.

>4GB MODELS CAN BE CONVERTED TO 8GB MODELS

How would I do that?

The 480, like the rest of the GCN generations, are just rehashes of the original GCN 1.0 design with minor changes. The only change to the CUs in Polaris was a new flip-flop circuit design. The rest was just the die shrink and updates to SIP cores for tessellation and video decoding/encoding.

http://radeon.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Polaris-Architecture-Whitepaper-Final-08042016.pdf

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>>56248246

Clearly the GCN design is a winner if its lasting this long and offering the performance it does at the various price brackets.

>>56248301

>temporal aa - 8x af

nice attempt at cherrypicked settings raja

>>56248323
what are you talking about you fucking mongoloid.

>>56248323

Go read the sauce yourself.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/08/24/deus_ex_mankind_divided_performance_iq_preview

>>56247889
>Dx12 support is not complete on AMD
>Believe us, you can trust us, Don't listen to Microsoft disproving our bullshit.

>>56248353

Nvidia has lied about basically everything related to DX12 and their showcasing of doom didn't help them when vulkan dropped.

>>56235069
Both GTX 1060 and rx480 are made for 1080p@60fps and both can do it bo problem, see before you jump to the technicalities you need to think a real world problem and then decide if there is a point to jump deeper. Just buy the cheapest one you find at your store.

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>>56249339
>made for 1080p@60fps

There is no such thing as a card 'made for 1080p', there are way too many variables. If you looked at 1080p ultra in MD as the benchmark, there is only one card on the market designed for 1080p60. Take your tech illiteracy B2Reddit

>>56249339
Yeah, I keep going over in my head "20% better in nearly all DX 11 titles and some Dirext X 12, even if it is through gamesworks bullshit."

"Imagine if Vulkan takes off due to Windows 1 backlash, AMD would reaally pull ahead, I only have an i5 though so the DX 12 gains as they are aren't as impressive and company dependent."

https://youtu.be/dh9Akfu90Gs?t=7m9s

The whole ages better thing isn't a massive margin as shown here.

Part of me just wants to give an AMD card ago after 12 years.

>>56243081
ayylmao m88

>>56235069
>what's the consensus
Fuck you.

>>56244551
enjoy your noasync,nodx12 and novulkan and receive the nvidia exclusive gimpworks!

>>56235069
pretty gud, but 470 is better deal if you can get it cheaper

>>56241174
>tfw thats exactly the card i just got

feels good man. asus xfx rx 470 :)

Between the reference 480 and customs 470, which one is less louder and which one is cooler than the other? What are the temps on this Cards in idle/gaming?

>>56252289
>AMD
Just assume it's all housefire tier, MSI has a great cooler and if I choose to get a 470 they'll very likely be my pick.

>>56236010
Slavshit subhuman

>>56238323
What does rx480 have to do with nani sore?
Maki's hat? Coz that's maki.

maki maki give me the faki