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> He's scared of learning a terminal because it's

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> He's scared of learning a terminal because it's "too hard" or "shouldn't be needed"

Come on, Anon. Don't you want unprecedented, distraction-free flexibility and efficiency? Don't you want to be able to pipe the output of one program to the input of another without having to use a mouse to copy and paste between clunky windows? Don't you like being able to easily automate everything?

It's easy, I swear! The basics take a week to memorize, at most. From there on out it's the same principle for every program you install for the CLI.

This isn't just a Linux or BSD thing, either. Mac is obviously very command line friendly, and powershell on Windows is nice too.

It's 2016. Time to take your working capability to the next level.
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>>56177818
>powershell on Windows is nice too
no it isn't
go away
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But I'm already using it, and can't imagine doing anything without it.
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>>56177831
>t. Coward who's too scared of the big bad command line

>>56177845
That's the spirit!
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>>56177858
>big bad command line
no i'm just scared of microsoft's .NET abomination eating up all of my ram.
i already use bash and tcsh
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im gonna install arch leenux
how do I learn terminal b4 that?
ive installed it b4 as a noob but it sukked
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>>56177872
Gotta get the Windows users' feet wet somehow, and if you're using Windows chances are you don't care about RAM usage. The "command prompt" is just bad.

>>56177893
Put Linux in a VM and look up one of the many free tutorials on the internet.
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>/etc/init.d/bluetooth status
lmfao why
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>>56177872
But .NET is the best development platform in the world, anon. But it's okay if your prefer easier and less powerful things like shells made on the 70s.
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powerwhat?
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>>56177818
>terminal

nice meme
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>>56177858
>t. Coward who's too scared of the big bad GUI
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>>56178015

What font is that? Thank you.
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Windows is heavily GUI based so don't expect Powershell to be great
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>>56178156
Ubuntu Mono:style=Bold
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>>56178015
>rc-service bluetooth status
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>>56178183
Its a brand new install so I assume he actually chose to use openrc and its not because hes lazy.

Just start using the systemd stage3 files like every other Gentoo user and stop dealing with that antiquated openrc clusterfuck.
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what's the best way to learn how to use a terminal well? like the best videos, or forums and shit like that.
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>>56178111
What good is this when all applications use GUIs?
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>>56178177
Actually PowerShell was invented for that reason: windows traditionally was impossible to automate using the command line. Now almost all professional MS products are scriptable using PowerShell.
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>>56178244
Setting up a Linux system
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>>56177818
>ls
>cat
>ping
>lsmod
Hardcore Gentoo terminal hacker reporting in :^)
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>>56178288
Oops. I forgot
>date
>pwd
>grep
and even
>cut
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Currently I have powershell 2.0 installed, should I upgrade by downloading wmf 5.0 from the microsoft website?
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http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/

all you need.
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>>56178304
Cat
Awk
Grep
Perl
Mksh
Bash
POSIX
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tmux master race
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>>56177818

get
a
life
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>>56178288
>>56178304
These are pretty much all the commands I use on linux, only including gcc/g++, apt-get and nano.

>>56177818
>cat
>ping
>grep
>date
>lsmod

So many ways to "color a, tree", Impressive
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>>56178015
What terminal is that?
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>>56177818
nigger is that some fucking Terminus?
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>>56177872
Powershell is pretty neat actually.

> .NET abomination eating up all of my ram.
what is garbage collection
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>>56178111
>using bash over powershell in the environment that is designed for it
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>>56178689
You should. There are a lot of improvements and many modules will require at least version 3.
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>>56179381
terminal cancer
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>>56178689
I'm not an expert but from what I'm seeing they added some useful commands later.
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>>56179036
Lmao rekt him 4sure xD
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>>56177818
rm -rf *
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>>56181840
right click C: drive
format drive
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compgen
alias
function
type
help
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It's 2016, there's literally no point in using the terminal when GUIs exist

That is unless you're a NEET running an ancient toaster that can't even handle GUIs without crashing and you have no money to get an actual computer

Which is what most of /g/ is
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>>56182818
I already stated several reasons. Try harder and you might actually be able to pretend you know something.
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>>56178111
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>>56177818
> Learning terminal
> terminal
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>>56177818
Come back with a good font and good font rendering if you want to shill your garbage to adults.
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>>56183306
>haha xDD performance = appearance xD

Retard-tier argument aside, it was the first image on google. I was away from my laptop when I had the thread idea.
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>>56183841
>was away from my laptop when I had the thread idea, but I use windows anyway so it'not that big of a deal
FTFY
Stop mixing your life and your dreams, you have no motivation to learn how to use a tty but know ctrl + shift + c and ctrl + shift + c
which makes you look cool to girls.
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>>56178015
>being a slave of lennart

>>56178209
OpenRC is not a clusterfuck, especially when compared to systemd, holy fucking shit are you retarded? Systemd is the biggest clusterfuck, do you know how much shit systemd does?

>>56178183
>rc-service
>not just using "service bluetooth status"

>>56178244
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide

>>56183841
is this font rendering good enough?
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>>56183841
oh sorry
i mean to say the post about font rendering to
>>56183306
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yo what shell should I be using?
got fish right now and I don't even know why
what would be the benefit of using zsh instead for instance?
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>>56183996
It's a question of preference, really
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>>56183956

tell me about your background
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>>56177818
ive been using linux all of one fucking hour and so far ive had to use terminal multiple times just to get the fucking amd drivers to work because i kept having to install new shit that it needed.
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>>56184285

>OS written by and for nerds.

GUI has always been a after thought for
those guys. And when they do one is always
looks like shit. And the people who are good
at design (the code artisans) are shit at
programming and computers in general.

If I had to choose, I would choose a powerful
albeit ugly system.
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Don't forget to learn csh after you learn sh.
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>>56186271

Writing GUIs is agonizing and boring and they don't add functionality, they only help discoverability for people who can't RTFM and a non-commercial project doesn't have any shareholder pressure to sell itself to noobs.
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>>56183956
>OpenRC is not a clusterfuck
That's just your opinion.
I thought it was great until I started using systemd and realized that it was borderline unusable dogshit and slow as fuck.
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>>56182818
How do you do symbolic links in windows via GUI?

Also as people have already said, automation... I have a bunch of trunks I need checked out and have a script that updates them every time I log onto my computer.
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>>56186769
>slow
Protip: Enable parallel in /etc/rc.conf

Also, if you want fast use runit init with custom boot scripts :)
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>finally got mpd + ncmpcpp working in cygwin
it's a good feel, I'm getting there slowly but surely
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>>56186839
Link Shell Extension
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>>56186884
Then I raised the question of why bother downloading a tool to do it through GUI when its easy enough to do via CMD/Powershell?
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>>56186854
All too slow and not user friendly.
systemd already has better support than all other inits the adoption rate was insanely fast
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>>56186872
oh my fucking god dude that is honestly the best fucking comedy ever holy shit just install linux
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>>56186918
wow rude
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This is a fucking retarded thread OP.
What a fucking elitist post.

But I do stand by learning terminal to make your work life easier.
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>>56186933
dude you're trying to rice a windows desktop, what is wrong with you?

why are you trying to make shit work in winblows? you'll just break something
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>>56186854
Oh yeah and about that picture:
OpenRC's shell scripts by default contain alot of detection, because they need to work *everywhere*, if you want simpler scripts than make your own, the ones gentoo provides by default are meant to work everywhere so that's why you see checkpatch and if statements.

If you want just create a openrc scripts (I suggest creating new one's because then you won't have to worry about portage overwriting them on OpenRC update), it's what I did until I switched to runit.

also,
what is the point of using gentoo if your gonna use lennartware anyways?

the only reasons I use it over other source distro's is because it provides me a convenient way of avoiding polkit, consolekit, systemd, pulseaudio, gtk3 (I use qt5), binary config (dconf), udisks, upower and alot of freedesktop.org software
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I dont have a week to learn new bullshit
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>>56186947
>what is wrong with you?
Everything apparently. Not that I give a shit.
>>56186947
>why are you trying to make shit work in winblows?
So I can know how.
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>>56186990
just install gentoo and get it over with

your learning experience will be so much better than trying to rice an os that isnt meant to be riced
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>>56187040
>isnt meant to be riced
So?
Also, I'm less likely to take your suggestions when you're so amusingly assblasted.
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>>56183956
>"service bluetooth status"
>not "sv bluetooth status"
Runit is best init
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>>56186957
I don't have to fuck with scripts thats the whole point of the image.

You anti systemd types all spout the same dogmatic tripe without any real arguments.
>le lennart poettering boogiemanz
>omg systemd replaced ntp-client call the police!!!`111
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Bullshit...I'm old enough to have actually used fucking DOS.

IT FUCKING SUCKED. Everyone at the time was overjoyed to be rid of it.

We will never go back to command line he'll. NEVER!
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>>56187233
You are not required to "fuck with scripts" to use OpenRC, the default scripts work perfectly.

Systemd is hated because it rewrites so much functionality other programs already had.

Another reason is because lennart is a huge fag, see: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/172163.html
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2010-September/000391.html
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>>56187524
I know lennart is a fag and systemd shits all over your precious outdated utilities but it really isn't a valid argument. systemd is so much better that you should be able to get over your butthurt and use the better system.
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>>56177818
What's the difference between powershell and the command prompt?
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>>56178269
Shame documentation for cmdlets beyond the default ones, exchange, sql, and sccm are utter dogshit.
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>>56187575
powershell can use any command prompt command, and it can use cmdlets.
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>>56183125
<3ncurses
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>>56184285
there are graphical package managers for gui babbies
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>>56187524
>>56186957
>>56183956
hey, you're trying to argue with a tripfag on a board filled with RedHat marketers. What on the earth are you expecting, for them to stop ruining good software? For the sake of the gentoo goodness, stop or they'll call lennart to stop and rewrite all of their comments in one single comment just to be able to claim that it's not a wall of text because it's separated in paragraphs.
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Serious question lads.

What is the most obscure/unknown terminal command/utility you have used?
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>>56177818
>There are people posting on /g/ who have never used a command line
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>>56178256
ssh without having to go through a stupid gui like putty or bitvise

Literally that's it. That's the only reason I keep it around. And sometimes it doesn't even do that correctly.
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>>56188307
I worked ad a data recovery facility. There's a lot of them. dc3dd/dcfldd to clone data securely, nwipe/shred to overwrite it, fdisk/gdisk for the partitioning, regripper to look through windows register, and a lot, lot of others. These ones are the most famous though.
Personally, as a gentoo user, I enjoyed a lot its portage features: eix, equery, emerge, eselect, and others. Not genkernel though, - I did that shit manually by configuring and going forth by make/make install && make modules_isntall/vim grub.cfg
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