GTX 1060m is more powerful than a PS4 Neo as Pascal technolo

>>56173198
>Sony are finished
Not PlayStation
>gaming laptops are now a real thing
They've always been and always will be niche

>>56173198
>You need water cooling to run it without bottleneck
Yea, Good one.

>>56173198
Thanks, Mr. Nvidia Marketing Agent

>>56173198
>GTX 1060m
>laptop GPUs
There's no M. It's not a "laptop" GPU. It's just a GTX 1060, straight up. It's the same chip as you see on the desktop graphics cards.

>>56173198
I don't want my laptop to overheat and reduce lifespan of components.

>>56173221
Prices are dropping and they're gaining popularity.
My friends sister upgraded from a 2012 macbook pro to a 15 inch alienware because she does a lot of editing and shit for ad companies.

>>56173264
>he fell for nvidia marketing

>>56173335
>same amount of CUDA cores, with the exception of 1070 where the laptop variant has more CUDA cores
>same amount of VRAM bandwidth
>same amount of VRAM
It's not even marketing. It's right there in the spec sheets.
With the exception of GTX 1070, Pascal uses the same chips in both desktops and laptops.

>>56173198
It also costs as much as PS4 on its own, so who gives a shit?

>>56173384
>lower clocks
and also, >muh same chip
maxwell laptop used the same damn chip as the desktop with different floorsweep, it's not a new thing you dumb fuck

>>56173198
Use gtx1080, that's all

>>56173400
Running 50 MHz slower doesn't make it physically a different chip, you dumb fuck.
I can underclock my desktop GPU too, but that doesn't make it a different GPU.

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yeah man!

except that $800+ pricetag

>>56173418
i didn't say it wasn't a different chip, i said that mobile GPUs were always the same chip as the desktop chip, can you even read?
and also, you really think you can get the laptop power/budget with just 50MHz of clock reduction? Just crazy.

>>56173450
>you really think you can get the laptop power/budget with just 50MHz of clock reduction?
That and binning for higher ASIC quality. Have you even looked at the specs for the Pascal lineup ?

The laptop variant of GTX 1080 literally only runs 50 MHz slower than desktop reference, this being the -only- difference in specs between the laptop and desktop variants. That's it. 50 MHz difference in base clock speed, nothing else. Everything else is the same.

>>56173400
Not that guy but why shit on Nvidia for this when AMD can't even compete?

They already own 90% of the laptop GPU market so they could have easily jewed out and just made the 1000m series 10% faster than maxwell. Instead they pretty much doubled performance and made their entire line of maxwell chips obselete in a single day, that's some shit we haven't seen since P4 to core2 by Intel, only this time AMD isn't even around to push them on.

>>56173428
I'm hoping 1060 laptops drop on black friday, that or I'll get it after xmas or something

>>56173450
The 1060 mobile has the TDP of the 970M.

>>56173491
>That and binning for higher ASIC quality. Have you even looked at the specs for the Pascal lineup ?
yes, considering i made drivers at nvidia.
i love when consumers just think they know everything

>>56173495
lol, wish i can say more but nda

>>56173519
My dad works at Nintendo too.

>>56173519
>i made drivers at nvidia
>made
did you get fired anon-chan? how many gpus in total did you kill with your drivers? :^)

>>56173529
k

>>56173539
internship
none, why would it break
though i've accidentally softbricked a few things

>>56173198
>Believing marketing
Why are people this fucking stupid?

>>56173546
How was it there? And what is your general opinion about nVidia vs AMD?

>>56173562
i came in as a diehard amd fan. i have an amd gpu. i still am not a full nvidia fanboy, but i'm definitely impressed at the company seeing the engineers. very passionate and smart people there.

the campus is pretty, i'll say that. it looks like any .com company inside, but the lawn and the buildings are really nice.
the food was great. everyone hates on it because it's cool to hate on cafeteria food but the meat at the rotisserie place was really nice.

it was amazing to see the "inside perspective" as a gamer, getting to know all the cool details in the driver that will never go out to the public. the company is barreling down the deep learning hype train and some of the internal research i got to take a peek at was amazing.

one thing i noted was not a lot of people there are gamers. one of my mentors was super into dota 2, and my other mentor used to be a gamer but he kinda slowed down on the gaming because of his family and work.

nvidia is building a new building and it should be done in a few months; i am not sure if i'll go back, but i'd definitely love to considering that building looks fucking awesome

and about nvidia vs. amd, it's quite sad really. i like to root for the underdog but amd's software is just... bad. if you look at the raw FLOPs, amd's equivalent GPUs' are higher (look at 290 vs. 970 for instance), but their software is shitty so the perf is about the same.

ok, nothing i said should be confidential

>>56173634
oh yeah, i got to meet jensen

dude's a pretty chill guy, got to sit in his ferrari lmao

>>56173634
Last question now.

what do you think about the 3.5GB issue on the GTX 970, was it planned or not? I own the card though and im pretty satisfied with its performance.

AMDPOORS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>56173681
i'm pretty sure it's not confidential, but i'll be on the safe side: i can't say.

>>56173198
Wow, are you telling me that a just released GPU is stronger than the GPU on a 3 years old machine that cost about the same?

NO WAY!!!

>>56173696
Alright, i can respect that. Thanks anyway.

Oh and as an nVidia owner i was a little hyped when amd announced their RX 480 but when it launched i was dissapointed.

>>56173264

It cannot ever have the same power budget without severe thermal issues.

Cooling requirements don't magically disappear when you put it in a laptop f.am

>>56173723
yeah, i just bought a freesync monitor so i'm kinda stuck with amd at the moment. hopefully they launch with a good 490.

i was hoping i'd win a 1070 or 1080 in a raffle but i got rekt.

man, i miss the place. one dollar dinners :^)

>>56173731
Why do you think there are no thin and light laptops with GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 ?

Wow maybe it's because manufacturers are aware that these GPUs require large heatsinks
who would have thought ?

>>56173696
Anandtech literally explains this in gross detail

>>56173692
>inb4 mobile ZEN APU with 470 in it.

>>56173765
link? if it's public i'll say it, if not i won't. i didn't work on hardware so i don't know exactly what happened though, only stuff i heard from other people.

>>56173765
Link please.

>>56173779
>>56173780
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8935/geforce-gtx-970-correcting-the-specs-exploring-memory-allocation

>>56173801
Didint read through, stopped here:
>the statement offered few technical details on what was going on under the hood, which makes it difficult for us to validate NVIDIA’s claims and on a more human level we’re always dissatisfied with half of an answer.

>>56173801
>>56173836
the article talks about why it's slow (missing cache interfaces from one SMM), but doesn't say whether or not it was intentional.

>>56173198
Consoles were obsoletes on release, we all knew that and its all news.

The thing about consoles are to have a somewhat cheap AIO device to play casual games without the issue of "oh shit, will this work on my pc... ?"

>>56173850
Thats the exact thing i want to know. That if they planned it or was it really an accident.

Im not gonna write a story about this, i want this for my own knowledge.

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>>56173866
Can't say, unfortunately. Looks like it's confidential shit. I'm sorry :(

>>56173880
Oh well.

>>56173866
i totally understand you though, i had a bunch of personal questions about nvidia that i wanted to know just for the sake of personal curiosity like you and it all got answered while i was there.

if you're doing programming or EE, apply mane, tons of jobs

>>56173916
>tfw living in europoor country

>>56173924
well nvidia has offices in germany and uk and other places
and that office in pune, india

oh yeah, people laugh about poolaris and indians in amd but there are just as many indian people in nvidia, hilarious how amd is getting the flak even though every damn silicon valley company has a ton of indian employees

>>56173940
Poo InVidia? :^)

Well anyway, i thank you for the information.

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>>56173985
np senpai

>>56173836
>>56173850
Haven't taken your ADD meds yet?

"The biggest and most painful question about all of this then is how did this happen? How did we get fed incorrect specifications? NVIDIA’s explanation, in a nutshell, is that this was completely accidental and that all of this stems from assumptions made by NVIDIA’s technical marketing team."

"The error, as NVIDIA explains it, is that in creating the GTX 970 reviewer’s guide, the technical marketing team was unaware of Maxwell’s aforementioned and new “partial disable” capabilities when they filled out the GTX 970 specification table. They were aware that the GTX 970 would have the full 256-bit memory bus, and unaware of the ability to independently disable ROPs they assumed that all 64 ROPs and the full 2MB of L2 cache was similarly available and wrote the specification table accordingly. This error then made it into the final copy of the guide, not getting caught even after being shared around various groups at NVIDIA, with that information finally diffused by press such as ourselves."

"Now as NVIDIA is in full damage control mode at this point, consideration must be given as to whether NVIDIA’s story is at all true; NVIDIA would hardly be the first company to lie when painted into a corner by controversy. With that in mind, given the story that NVIDIA has provided, do we believe them? In short, yes we do."

>>56173198

I'm living in a trailer for the foreseeable future and can't use something that takes a ton of power/room, so my custom build is getting sold. What are the best gaming laptops? Can I get a good one for under 1.2k? Doesn't have to run the most recent games at high, 120hz screen is needed though.

>>56173914
hopefully you're still there.
>>56174010

looks like it is public.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/02/24/gtx-970/

from what i've heard inside nvidia, what jensen is saying here is completely true. there was a miscommunication between the hardware guys and the technical marketing team and this crucial bit of info got kinda ignored.

so yes, it wasn't accidental and nvidia wasn't out to screw you guys.

>>56174067
I'm here.

A little skeptical but oh well.

So when can I buy a good laptop with one of these in it?
And I'm not buying one of the Asus ROG laptops, they look terrible.

>mfw I might actually have a laptop more powerful than my desktop

>>56173634

Thoughts on AMD's stock skyrocketing? I made some money on it but am now in Nvidia as a long hold. Do you think that's smart and do you see Nvidia expanding it's appeal to consumers?

I think AMD will go up with 480 sales but I don't see them beating NVDA in the long term.

>>56174097
i mean, believe what you want to believe but afaik that is the truth. i might have been told propaganda but from what i've seen it is true.

and regarding this topic of laptops
>mfw i got to try out the pascal laptops before any of you fuckers or the reviewers did
:^)

>>56174128
not good with stock
amd looks ok, if they aren't bullshitting about zen i think they might do well

>>56174150

>not good with stock

>perfect position for insider trading NVDA or longing/shorting AMD

>>56174181
i don't want to go to jail ty
also no money, fucking tuition fees

>>56174200
Oh but how did it feel like when jensen was banging your boipuccy in his ferrari :^)

>>56174271
>implying
he also had like 3 teslas and apparently a motorcycle

>>56174299
main question is... does he use gentoo and watch anime?

>>56174347
he uses wandows and has a rather modest PC
just lowkey had a mini itx with i think a 1080

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ASUS Announces the ROG GX800 4K G-SYNC Gaming Laptop with GTX 1080 SLI

How long until it catch on fire?

Considering the desktop parts needs a thick heatsink and big fans to keep the GPU cool.

How are you going to deal with the heat output on a laptop?

Oh wait, the Chinks at Asus are fucking crazy.

>>56174370
http://www.pcper.com/news/Mobile/ASUS-Announces-ROG-GX800-4K-G-SYNC-Gaming-Laptop-GTX-1080-SLI

>>56174370
the docking watercooler laptop already exists in maxwell you dumb cuck

>>56174150
Oh what do you think the new titan will be named? Titan C? Titan CP? :^)

>>56174508
Titan X again because fuck logic
I was trying to get my hands on a Maxwell Titan X for CUDA and the guy got confused between the Fermi Titan, the Maxwell Titan X, and the Pascal Titan X and called it very dumb

not sure what the fuck is happening

also the next generation is called Volta

>>56174543
don't take this as "VOLTA TITAN X CONFIRMED" (i don't know if they even have product plans for volta yet) but if there is one, my best guess is that they will call it titan x again

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>>56174563
>Titan XV

>mfw
>Titan XD incoming

>>56174580
naming scheme is fucking retarded i tell ya
marketing is pretty good at nvidia, no idea why they went bonkers with the names

>>56174620
well i think i can tell you why...
look at your keyboard
>TITAN
>Titan Z
>Titan X
>Next logical step would be Titan C
:^)

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>>56174635
kek

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>>56174655
you know its true

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>>56174683
no fun allowed though :^(

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>>56174743
What about dank memes? :^(

>>56174791
they had a reddit pc master race meme in the IT shack

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>>56174803
Gotcha

>>56173198
Enjoy your heat, weight and battery. Apus with hbm will completely destroy anything that nvidia and intel can offer.

>>56173395
kek

poorfag

>>56173395
>wasting money on a gimped computer that can only play games and suck at its only purpose
>having to pay for online services
>having to pay $60 per game unless your time is worthless and you waste it looking for bargains on second hand games
>console babby can't into long term thinking

>>56173198
>GTX 1060m is more powerful than a PS4 Neo
Probably more like equal to Neo/Scorpio. 1060 is approximately equal to 480 if paired with low level APIs (console, DX12), and the new consoles will approximately have a 480 if not a higher SP part. On top of that consoles get a little more oomph than PC

>>56174877
>Apus with hbm
>low level part with currently high price memory
AMDrones are really out of touch.

>>56173198
>more powerful than a PS4 Neo
>specs aren't even released yet
what

>>56173395
>>56176167
de_stroyed

>>56173198
>gaming laptops are now a real thing.

A "gaming laptop" is like saying you own an SUV but in reality you have a smart car.

>>56173495
>that's some shit we haven't seen since P4 to core2 by Intel
It has happened multiple times in GPU history now, GTX 2XX to 4XX, along with 4XXX to 5XXX, or GeForce 3 to GeForce 4
You're also skipping the whole interim between P4 and Core2
Also
>what's a massive lithography jump
This gen has been disappointing at best, every single lithography jump before saw much bigger performance gains
>>56174543
>Maxwell Titan X for CUDA
why.jpg