Is Zen going to be locked to Win10 just like Kaby Lake? How will

>>56165304
Kaby Lake's not limited to Windows 10, neither will Zen.

mokou a shit

>>56165328
Didnt MS say all CPUs after 2017 couldnt support Win7 or 8?
Or did I mishear?

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>>56165362
id let her burn my house down but my 290x already did

>>56165416
Kaby Lake isn't restricted to Windows 10, Kaby Lake owners wanting to use a Windows OS are. You're still free to use a real operating system. Hell, run Windows 8 in a VM if you need Windows for something.

>>56165470
But is AMD in on it too
if so I guess its time to convert to Loonix

>>56165951
Replace Kaby Lake with Zen and my point still stands, dumbass

>>56165962
I just didnt know if Zen was going to be locked down too

>>56165328
Well I got a Skylake and plugged in my Windows 8.0 SSD. Guess what? Graphics drivers don't work. USB drivers don't work. I was told to upgrade to either 8.1 or 10, both of which have Spyware updates.

We're fucked.

>>56166107
See >>56165470

Only Skylake is still "supported" on windows 7

kaby lake and summit ridge and the new qualcomm chipset are all W10 only.

>>56166762
False

>>56166825
You can run Linux on them sure. but with Windows it's Windows 10 only

"Windows 10 will be the only supported Windows platform on Intel’s upcoming “Kaby Lake” silicon, Qualcomm’s upcoming “8996” silicon, and AMD’s upcoming “Bristol Ridge” silicon."

>>56165470
Indeed. Amusing how much people struggle with the concept that implication works one way and
"if A, then B" doesn't equal "if B, then A"

People will keep to not get this thing even after you explain it verbosely.

>>56167009
"keep to not get"

well when you explain it so well like that...

>>56165304
I doubt it.
AMD hardware is meant for poor people.
They can't get away with forcing win10 on people who are probably still using win7

>>56166153
>Windows in a VM.
No thanks.

>>56167133
Please do explain

>>56165951
>But is AMD in on it too
It's Microsoft's option to support a processor dumb fuck. If they don't support new Intel processors with their old operating systems then why would they support new AMD processors?

>>56165362
Fuck off Kaguya

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>>56167051
>Win7 for poors
>AMD for poors
GTX 1080 already got gimped in Deus Ex, have fun.

>this thread
>all this misinformation

Jesus. I shouldn't be surprised that everyone here is so fucking stupid, and yet this board finds new and exciting ways each day.
Nothing is locked to Windows 10. What Microsoft meant about support for new CPUs on older versions of Windows is about feature support. Skylake for example has an additional low power pstate, at launch only Windows 10 supported it.
Skylake still properly functions on Windows 95 if you want to run that, you just can't use that one pstate.

Nothing from AMD nor Jewtel will be locked to Windows 10 or newer.

>>56167895
Source, anon?
See I thought the idea of locking processors to OSes was bullshit too but knowing how hard MS tries to make people use win10 its believable

Just use Linux

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>>56168115
Take a look at the clickbaity articles that ran on the issue. Like this one for example:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3023533/microsoft-windows/microsoft-support-windows-10-new-hardware-itbwcw.html

Now read into what Microsoft's actual statements were, and look at the attached slide on Skylake.
Microsoft is saying that older versions of Windows won't support the feature on the right, but everything supports the model on the left. They're saying that when hardware vendors make changes like these they won't build in support into older versions of Windows. They're not saying that older versions of Windows then become incompatible with the hardware, or that you're locked into Windows 10. Just that these new tertiary features aren't supported in legacy OS versions.

Reality is always more mundane than what a journalist spins. Its their job to be salacious and dramatic.

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>>56165304
AMD are the good guys of the hardware world, intel have plans to lock their CPU's to windows 10

>>56168115

>>56167895
>>56167163

>>56166001
It won't be

Check wikipedia everyone:
On January 15, 2016, Microsoft announced that Windows 10 would be the only supported Windows platform for Kaby Lake processors.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake

>>56168242
>wikipedia

You really are a tech illiterate retard. Amazing.

>>56165470
So what will happen if you try to install a previous Windows version? Will the CPU itself display you a message "Fuck You, only Windoze10 allowed hurr"?

>>56168355
>So what will happen if you try to install a previous Windows version?

It will work as normal. Behind the scenes the chip won't be using all of intel's brand new power saving bullshit which really only matters for "ultrabooks" and tablets like the Surface. Thats it.

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>>56168262
I'll check the references in the article then. It seems that AMD are not the good guys after all

"For example, Windows 10 will be the only supported Windows platform on Intel’s upcoming “Kaby Lake” silicon, Qualcomm’s upcoming “8996” silicon, and AMD’s upcoming “Bristol Ridge” silicon."

source [13] of the wikipedia article ^^^ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/01/15/windows-10-embracing-silicon-innovation/

>>56168355
My laptop doesn't support windows 7, only 8 and above. Windows 7 installs but gives a blue screen when you try to boot it for the first time.

>>56168390
Again, tech illiterate retard, its exactly as I explained.
New tertiary features won't be supported. The chips still work with whatever you install on them.

>>56168438
you explained fuck all, you just insulted me

>>56167009
>literally and unironically implying implications

Well, an implication is not an equivalence. Dog entails animal because the set of all dogs is a (proper) subset of the set of all animals, but not the other way around. Similarly, "x == 2" implies "x^2 == 4", but not vice-versa. The more specific implies/entails the more general it is a special case of.

>>56168453
I explained everything in simple explicit terms.
You deserve to be insulted, you tech illiterate retard.

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And for the record, this is the AMD equivalent to Skylake's new pstate system present in Carrizo and newer chips.
It cuts down on idle power for mobile devices.

It doesn't lock you out of using Windows 7, or anything else.

>>56167506

Can i have source on this?

>>56169651
Fury X gets same fps as a 1080 in DX11, theres a thread about it right now

>>56167133
literally nothing wrong with that
with GPU passtrough you can even play games as much as you like

>>56165304
GEN2