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Official retro /g/ thread.
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>>56123670
Don't you mean... Vaper-ware? :^)
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>>56123670
My post is in the post
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>>56123670
Doco on the last days of Commodore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaTjwo1ywcI
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>Luddite general
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>>56123973

Consumerist whore
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Can I upgrade my Commodore to use a modern CPU?
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>>56124402
Yeah, there should be some screws that open the case. You want to rip all the guts out, burn/crush them so nobody can steal your data, then put in a new mobo.
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My Apple //e using lynx.
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1351 mouse. These are pretty hard to find for a good price, not because they're unusually rare, but everybody wants one. Also as I understand, they do not work at all on the VIC-20 because of relying on the SID's A/D converter to operate. It won't fry anything if you plug one in, but the computer can't pick up any signal from the mouse.
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>>56124531
Using Arch.
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>>56124542
>>56124531
Tried GEOS for the Apple II? You would need a mouse though.
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>>56124542
>>56124531
Come back when you have Leisure Suit Larry running on that thing.
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>>56124542
Using aview (with a photo of Steve Wozniak).
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>>56124573
No, I haven't. I'll have to check that out. Thanks Anon!

Also, I don't have a mouse at the moment, but for most Apple ][ programs with a GUI, you can use the tab button to select.
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>>56124701
I think a mouse is required for GEOS though.
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>>56124391
poorfag
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>>56124728
Okay, then I'll try to buy one.
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>>56124573
It uses DHGR mode and I think you're supposed to run it on a monochrome monitor because a color display would fill everything with nasty artifacts.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Apple-II-Mouse-Interface-Card-670-0030-ship-world-wide-/162154769709?hash=item25c12d6d2d:g:3-0AAOSwRoxXnrmJ

The mouse card for the Apple II is easy enough to find, the mouse itself is much harder.
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I also could not find the GEOS disks on Ebay, but I imagine the Apple version is less common than the C64 one especially since it was bundled with them from 1987 onward.
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>>56124687
There was also a GIF viewer program for the Apple II.
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>>56124629
that wasn't even on the Apple II, was it?
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>>56125030
It is on the Apple II, it uses DHGR mode and requires a IIe or IIc. Runs at a snail's pace and has no sound. I'm not even sure if you can find the disk image online. You may need to scour Ebay for an original copy and make a dump of that.
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my battlestation
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>>56125376
My Apple IIc loading /g/
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>>56125385
Apple //c
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>>56124734

Goy.
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>>56125401
My entertainment center
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>>56125422
bst360webm
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>>56125401
When the IIc came out in 1984, Apple had hoped it would become the mainstay of the Apple II line due to its lower manufacturing cost, but ultimately the IIe and its expandability carried the day.
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Who else can't wait for Season 3?
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>>56125422
>having a Sharp when you can buy a Sony PVM for $50
For what purpose?
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>>56125634
I own a NEC broadcast monitor with rgb inputs, but I use that with my Amiga
I think the only reason I use my 80s Sharp is because "muh aesthetics"
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Why use old bad tech when newer better tech exists?
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"In 1979, Ken and Roberta Williams were a young married couple in Southern California, in most regards no different from most people in their demographic. Ken wrote business software in Los Angeles while Roberta was a stay-at-home housewife. The personal computer industry was just beginning; it had been four years since the Altair 8800. The Williamses purchased an Apple II and enjoyed playing adventure games on it. However, they soon came to ask the obvious question--why can't an adventure game have pictures instead of just text? The solution was to make their own game of course. Ken Williams coded it in the evenings after work and the end result, dubbed Mystery House, was sold via mail order in Zip-Lok baggies. The couple were astonished at how many people bought the game."

"Within a year of Mystery House, Ken and Roberta Williams were masters of their own software house, Online Systems, soon to be renamed Sierra Online. Within two years, they were celebrities. Computer magazines and non-computer ones as well lined up to interview the Williamses and as the young company grew, its staff began mushrooming with the addition of programmers, graphic artists, tech support personnel, and everything else needed for a full-fledged software house. Entertainment moguls met with them and even offered to buy out Sierra entirely. Ken Williams was astonished as Disney, Children's Television Workshop, Steven Spielberg, and others requested computer games based on their franchises. By 1982, Sierra moved to a spacious new headquarters, needed as the company soon had over 100 employees, and the Williamses treated themselves to an $800,000 home on the Fresno River."

"The video game and personal computer businesses were booming in 1982 and there was a voracious demand for computer games on the Apple II, VIC-20, TRS-80, and other home computer platforms. Ken Williams made plans for at least 100 separate products in 1983 alone."
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"Yet as 1983 unfolded, there was trouble on the horizon. Sierra's latest adventure game was The Dark Crystal, based on the Jim Henson movie of the same name, which debuted to less-than-favorable reviews. The game was criticized for the same old stale design as previous Sierra adventures, with little in the way of gameplay design or improvement over 1980's The Wizard and the Princess. Computer technology was evolving quickly and a three year old game engine wasn't cutting it. Even worse, Infocom were making a name for themselves with the very thing Sierra built their reputation on opposing, which were old-fashioned text adventures. Infocom's games lacked graphics, but had a more sophisticated parser than Sierra's Hi-Res game engine, better puzzles, and more intellectual-minded stories rather than Sierra's rather cartoonish games. The success of Infocom caused a revival of text adventures and many game devs began to feel that graphics were an unnecessary expense that added nothing to gameplay and needlessly complicated the process of porting across different platforms."

"Also during 1983, the Commodore 64 was becoming the go-to platform for computer games and Sierra had nothing to offer on it but a few ports of their VIC-20 titles. As one other troubling factor, Sierra increasingly began to rely on the cartridge format for the Atari 800, C64, and VIC-20. Cartridges were expensive to manufacture against disk or tape software and all the facilities that manufactured cartridges were booked for months, meaning any Sierra titles released on cartridge likely would not get to stores until late in the year. It was also less than comforting to think that the most successful Sierra game released in 1983 was not one of the company's own products, but a port of the arcade game Frogger."
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"As things stood, Sierra had spent months and large amounts of money on two Hi-Res adventures, Time Zone, and The Dark Crystal, both of which bombed. And then, late in 1983, the video game and personal computer markets started collapsing like a ton of bricks, leaving Sierra saddled with a ton of unsellable cartridge games. Ken Williams had to cut loose all but 20 employees and renegotiate the rent with his landlord on Sierra's headquarters, which amounted to $25,000 a month."

"Early in the year, an intriguing new development happened when IBM came to Sierra and announced that they had a new personal computer in the works and wanted a game as a demonstrator product. Ken Williams was not completely surprised as this wasn't his first dealing with Big Blue. Back in 1981, when the IBM PC came out, they had done likewise, in this case commissioned a port of The Wizard and the Princess. Sierra were subjected to the usual IBM secrecy which included signing nondisclosure agreements and receiving computer hardware in lead-lined, sealed cases which all had to be set up and used in windowless rooms with the doors locked at all times. The port of the game, renamed Adventure in Serenia, came out eventually in 1982."
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>>56125715
It's a hobby. Why just get something that "just werks", when you can fuck around with ancient hardware, pull your hair out configuring hard drive settings, mess with undocumented software, get lead poisoning from all the soldering, and get asthma from all the dust.

But in the end, after all that work, you can celebrate religiously when you first see a prompt glow on the phosphor

also
>bad old tech
my Apple IIc from 1984 is still kicking while all the asus/dell computers I've used through the years have all died
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>>56123730
why do people say vaporware? does no one know that it is completely different from vapor wave?
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>>56124542
How the fuck did you get Internet and Linux on a computer this old.
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>>56125955
It's acting as a dumb terminal
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>>56125941
I have a feeling it's purely a pun
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>>56125970
And here I got all excited.
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>>56123670
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>>56126261
I miss my AT
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>>56125851
"IBM officials urged Sierra to go one step further with the game they were developing on the PCjr. Just doing yet another Hi-Res text adventure was not going to cut it. IBM wanted a more sophisticated game engine and also for the game to have replayability, something that had not been a hallmark of Roberta Williams's game designs up to this point. The development of King's Quest cost over $800,000 and required seven full-time programmers working for months, the biggest and most ambitious computer game developed so far. Early in 1983, for the second time, delivery vans arrived outside Sierra's offices with a shipment of top-secret gear. However, Coarsegold was a small town and news traveled quickly. The rumors soon spread that IBM were back in town."

"With 128k of memory, 16 color graphics, and 3-voice sound, the new PCjr offered gaming possibilities that well exceeded those of the Apple II and allowed for the first time an adventure game with animated characters and backgrounds instead of static pictures. At the end of 1983, IBM unveiled the PCjr to the public. Its oddball design including a chicklet keyboard as well as a lack of compatibility with most IBM PC hardware and software were surprising and confusing to many, including Ken Williams himself. After all, during the entire development of King's Quest, Sierra had never had access to a production model PCjr, only prototypes, and like everyone else, Ken Williams had to go out and buy one himself at ComputerLand. Ken then went to see a movie and left the computer in the back seat of his car, only to come back and find it had been stolen. It seemed an ill omen."
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"As the winter gave way to the spring of 1984, it became more and more obvious that the PCjr was not going to be a marketplace success, which in turn meant that King's Quest wasn't either. Sierra had staked a major chunk of company resources on a dud of a computer. Although King's Quest sold fairly respectably, there just weren't enough PCjr owners around to make it a viable, profitable piece of software. Sierra had also developed a port for the regular IBM PC, but that was not faring terribly well either as a large majority of IBM PCs were office computers. Not many home users could afford a $4000 machine and the market for games on the PC was small. Of the other major home platforms out at the time, none of them were suitable for King's Quest. The Apple II, Commodore 64, and Atari 800XL all had 64k of memory, not enough for the AGI game engine which needed 128k."

"However, luck soon came around when Apple announced the 128k Apple IIc, which also sported standard 16 color graphics. In addition, an expansion board added these capabilities to the Apple IIe, which made it possible for the AGI engine to be ported to the Apple II line. The real turnaround however came when Tandy announced its entry into the IBM compatible market."
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>>56125376
>>>/d/
>>>/mlp/
get out
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Are sleeper builds welcome?
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Yeah, aside from The Dark Crystal, Sierra had also laid a huge egg with Time Zone, a six disk monstrosity (almost 2MB worth of game) that cost over $100.
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>>56125562

I'm looking forward to it, but season 1 (engineer gordo being cool) was better than season 2 (muh stronk wymyn).
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>>56127062
Time Zone is on Asimov if you want to try it.
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>>56124907
What's it called?
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>>56125955
>>56125970
>>56126051

It is acting as a dumb terminal in this image, but it also has a custom on-board Uthernet II card, which I use with the Contiki Web browser, telnet server, and IRC. (Though it doesn't support HTTPS.)
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>>56124573
>kernal
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>>56127207
Sierra supposedly claimed that Time Zone would take the average player a year to finish, however Roe Adams, a reviewer for Softalk Magazine, completed it in one week, apparently by averaging 3 hours of sleep a night.
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>>56124728
I might just get Apple II Desktop, since it's similar to Mac OS.
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Even more absurdly, Sierra also decided that each one of Time Zone's 1300 screens have its own unique picture. The unfortunate task of drawing them fell to Terry Pierce, an 18 year old kid they hired straight out of the local high school. Pierce was practically reduced to tears from the strain, but kept working all day and night almost without sleep to finish the job.
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>>56127339
Apple II Desktop is really just a GUI overlay for ProDOS rather than a full-fledged OS like GEOS.
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>>56126841
I don't see any mlp in that photo.

only some /trash/
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>>56125069
AFAIK most Apple DHGR games have almost no sound.
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>>56123670

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qurQurIWJrA
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Toasting in a retro bread
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bap bap bap bap bap bap bap bap bap bap bap bap bap BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

...


biep
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>>56128263
kek
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Anyone know where I can buy an Amiga for a decent price?
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>>56128416

1992.
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>>56128416
Just keep your eyes open and also hope you have lots of luck.
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>>56128263
Dick status: muh
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>>56128263
I just realized what my computer is missing, a cute cloth on top of my desk.
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>>56128507
I just realized what my cute cloth on top of my desk is missing, a computer.
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>>56128472
It's still way cheaper to get one then the original retail prices where, I'd say perfect time would be 2002.
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>>56128578
I don't remember anything special happening in 2002.
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>>56124542
So you aren't using the apple ll, you are just using the monitor?
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>>56128612
Just thinking back, I remember seeing lots of them for sale in thrift stores around that time for like a few bucks, early to late 2000's was probably the time you could get them easily, nowadays most are already in someone's greasy mits who don't sell theirs, the prices will only go up from now on.
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Has anyone here ever tried to polish any of the early to mid 2000s macs with brasso or a similar product? I have an iBook G3 that has a pretty scuffed up surface that I want to get rid of, and I saw people using brasso to remove scratches from turntable dust covers, so I assume that it could work.
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>>56128636
It's running as a dumb terminal, it's using the I/O of the Apple //e.

Back in the day telnet, MUDs and BBSes worked the same way, just over telnet, that's also what you mostly used them for with a modem.
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>>56125376
>>56125385
>>56125401
>>56125437
Got any furry pron on that apple llc?
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>>56128659
Never tried it but it might work, I will have to try myself sometimes too.
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Somebody had a picture of a C64 with a terminal setup like that, but it's a little trickier there as you need an RS-232 -> user port adapter.
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>>56128664
Pretty neet, what is some cool stuff you can do with that besides browse /g/?
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>>56128697
Basically run any text mode applications of the host system what support the screen character wight/height.
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>>56128416
>posting an stationary image
>not a gif or webm
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>>56125998
>it's a dip you meme
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>>56128838
>it's a DIP you dip
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>>56128820
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>>56128866
It's a PID you dip
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>>56128895
Nice!
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>>56128648
I've never in my life seen an Amiga in any thrift store. Oddly I've only ever seen a C64 once in one of those and it was actually the early silver label model. Apple IIs I've seen a bunch of times.
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>>56128895
Kek, I remember Atari recreating the boing ball for the ST, unironically missing the whole point of it, not only did it not run as smooth, but the system was just busy doing that, could not do anything else at the same time.
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>>56128982
I live in Yurop, that's probably why.
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>>56128838
>>56128866
>>56128910
>>>/reddit/
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Not as retro but still somewhat old.
I have a Ham radio from 1978 if that's of any interest.
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>>56127380
Kek, you can see how much effort he put into it
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>>56123973
>waaah stop liking what I don't like
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>>56124531
>>56124542
>>56124687
We get it, you figured out how to load a terminal emulator. Jesus.
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>>56129331
What are your contributions?
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>>56129381
I could spam the same three pictures of my Amiga to every thread if you like.
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>>56129408
Why not do something interesting with it instead and share?
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>>56129444
That was my point.
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>>56128416
UK Importing. Especially if you want something more than just a base model 500.

Either that or get lucky, I bought an A500 in my area for $75, took it home and popped it open and it even had a later board version.
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>>56128416
Just look around and ask people you know. I got a mint Amiga 1200 from my optometrist.
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>>56129475
Well, he did and let him have his fun until it lasts.
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>>56129479
An A500 is a good computer for OCS games, but that's pretty much it.
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>>56129504
kek i found my old post:
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/S43198892#p43211183
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>>56129627
What have you done with it since?
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Considering the huge fucking number of C64s sold, it's odd how few I've encountered in the wild when I've seen every Apple II except the original model.
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>>56129675
absolutely nothing
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>>56129731
Topkek
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>>56129331
Either that or he posts his IBM AT with same terminal crap running.
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>>56129786
I thought that was a different guy
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>>56129786
It was a XT clone and it wasn't his.
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>>56129786
>>56129331
>ugh, stop posting! ugh... ugh I don't like that you post your stuff on this thread ment for that, it's not like this thread is going to die without anyone posting
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>>56129301
>>56127380
It was generally understood that what sold Sierra's Hi-Res adventures was the graphics, surely not the sophisticated text parser or gripping storylines, none of which were above the level of a Scott Adams adventure.
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>>56129826
It is the same guy with the Apple II. Every thread has those same 2-3 pics spammed in them.
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>>56129223
Is that ME or 2000?
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>>56129855
That's probably because there's mostly 5-6 guys who are always in these threads and always post their shit and not one guy.
You can leave if you don't like you know.
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>>56127338
>>56127380
Many of the puzzles in Time Zone were terribly designed and had incredibly brain-damaged solutions. It is worth noting that Roberta Williams got better; by King's Quest, her puzzles are generally a lot more logical, some of them even clever. The one truly bad puzzle in the game, guessing Rumplestiltskin's name, still only counts as a "bonus" and is not required to win.
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>>56129874
I'd believe that if it wasn't both the same terminal program and the same matching style of photography.
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>>56129331
Besides, it's not as if a terminal emulator is especially interesting or worth posting a pic of.
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>mfw I spam my pictures (win98/iMac/a2c) and get no hate
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>>56130041
That's not actually hate but more stale bait, those threads always have faggots like that.
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>>56130066
I think it's more like jealousy or butthurt, why else get so worked up to bitch about it in an anonymous image board.
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>>56130099
Wait, who's jealous and butthurt over what?
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>>56123730
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>56129855
>>56129921
You clearly don't come here much nor don't know much about these threads and people who post in here.

>inb4 >>>/reddit/
Go buttfukk yourself :^)
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>>56130240
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>56130221
>>56130268
>not realizing it's actually an Arch logo and not a carat
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Microchess, which was famously the first computer software to sell 50,000 copies and raised the money to found Visicorp. The AI in the game was almost comically awful and computer magazines in later years when better chess programs were out would ridicule it. The Apple version was one of the earliest commercial software programs that could use the computer's HGR graphics and it was also ported to the PET and TRS-80.
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>>56130311
forgot pic
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>>56130311
>>56130325
That's neat
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>>56123670
If I wanted an actual terminal or an older computer to use as a terminal for my desktop (preferably with a green monochrome monitor), where should I start looking to find one without spending a lot of money and what models should I look for?
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>>56130476
Maybe Anon-kun can stream it off AGS and show it running on his IIe instead of that same pic of a terminal program.
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>>56130532
Yeah, he should make a webm
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>>56130532
It's not on AGS. I checked.
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>>56130221
>replying some 10 hours later
wow you sure showed him
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>HAM video on Amiga 600
>no sound on webm
This exact video could run even on an stock Amiga 500 if you add an hard drive.
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>>56129301
The facial expression of the samurai dude shows his pain as he was drawing all that shit.
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>>56130530
Any old 8 bit micro with a serial port can be used as a terminal.

>preferably with a green monochrome monitor
IBM PC/XT/AT, Apple II, and certain CP/M machines are all know to have green monochrome monitors available

Probably the easiest to come by and work with is the Apple II
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>>56130687
I'm guessing the video data itself is uncompressed?
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>>56130735
Yeah, its raw
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>>56130530
That's a very wide-ended question with no real answer.
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>>56130714
>work with
An XT or AT clone would be much easier to work with if you ask me, easier to write software for it, just and USB floppy drive will do, and also because you could even use an ethernet card instead of serial.
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>>56130530
Local ad's, thrift stores, garage sales, recycling centers, asset disposals centers,
computer shops that sell refurbished computers might have some in the back,
ask in schools, also ask around friends or if they know who might have some.

Forums and eBay are usually mindlessly expensive because of collector and reseller faggots.

Yes, I copy pasted my old text from the old thread.
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>>56130796
>Local ad's, thrift stores, garage sales, recycling centers, asset disposals centers,
>computer shops that sell refurbished computers might have some in the back,
>ask in schools, also ask around friends or if they know who might have some
Would that this was 1995.
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>>56130810
Well, it's still the only way to get them, not much changed, their just more rare.
>>
Back then you could get crateloads of monochrome monitors, TRS-80s, Apple IIs, XT clones, dot matrix printers, 2400 baud modems for like $10 a pop.
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>>56130687
>Bad Apple
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>>56130796
I've always wanted to see if my university has any old computers stored away somewhere, but I don't know who to ask. I've seen historical photos of everything from IBM 360 mainframes to Apple IIs and commodores.
>>
>>56130796
>recycling centers
Those let you just walk in and browse shit that people have dropped off?

>asset disposals centers
I'll have to look that up.

Serious question, where I used to live businesses that dealt with databases were still using terminals/thin clients with old 5 pin DIN keyboards and no place to plug in a mouse (if I remember correctly) up to at least 2010. Was it like this in the rest of the US or was this yet another way that the place I lived was behind the times?
>>
>>56131022
I love Brave Little Toaster
>>
>>56131022
They probably have nothing older there than a Windows 98 or maybe an XP box.
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>>56131046
>Those let you just walk in and browse shit that people have dropped off?
I guess it depends how it works where you are, I just take a box of chocolates with me whenever I go and say some nice words, they won't mind me then if there's nobody else there.
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>>56131053
So do I. It's my favorite childhood movie.

>>56131065
You're probably right. The oldest computer I've seen is a lonely Pentium III box in a chemistry building
>>
>>56124533
Is that the same "coffin mouse" which came with the Amigas? It was fairly clunky afair. I swapped my original Amiga mouse for a much nicer one and never ever looked back. The awkward shape, the clunky buttons, the stiff cable, the stiff rolling mechanism, meh.
>>
If this was 1995, your university might have an IBM XT or an Apple II in the closet somewhere, but that was then and this is now.
>>
>>56131190
>So do I. It's my favorite childhood movie.
I'm downloading them all and watching them tonight again
>>
>>56131313
Uses same design, but it does not work with the Amiga.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_1351

You can use Amiga controllers on the C64 though, and vice versa.
>>
>>56127311
When the original PET came out in 1977, Commodore decided on the name "kernel" as in "OS kernel" for the system ROMs, but due to a typo in the documentation, it came out as "kernal" and the term stuck.
>>
>>56131330
nobody would let you take it away anymore either
>>
>>56131330
I got some VT220s, a C64, an AS/400 system, and a bunch of other junk from my uni in 2010.
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>>56131476
There are a lot of people who don't care about that old tech and give it to you for free.
>>
>>56131474
Actually, the decision to separate the OS ROM from BASIC on the PET was a novel decision and it can be seen as a precursor to the IBM PC BIOS.
>>
Centris 650 here.

For the love of God I can't find the CPU frequency crystal?
I know it can be overclocked by replacing the crystal, there are topics on it, but nobody mentions where the damn thing is.
>>
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>>56131707
forgot pic
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>>56131707
>overclocking
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>>56131728
Magic won't help me
>>
Overclocking is a good way to blow stuff up, y'know? I can't believe people still fall for discredited shit from a 1996 PC World issue.
>>
>>56132085
>Overclocking is a good way to blow stuff up, y'know?
Of course, if you're careless and stupid.
Mostly depends on the chip, y'know?

>I can't believe people still fall for discredited shit from a 1996 PC World issue.
Tell that to the benchmarks and extra frames in games.
>>
It's kind of like the nimrods in the 80s who used to format 720k floppies as 1.44MB ones and wondered why the disk died in three uses.
>>
>>56132238
Kek, I remember doing that, it's good if you need to transfer files and don't have any HD floppies, but they won't last long, yeah.
>>
>>56124531
Nice
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>>56132203
>Tell that to the benchmarks and extra frames in games.
Tell that to the person reviewing your insurance claim after you start a house fire.
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>>56132440
Topkek, thank God CPUs don't combust
>>
>>56131707
>>56131724
Woops, nevermind, found the crystal, it was a black ceramic chip.
>>
>>56130041
Pre-G5 iMacs are cool though
>>
>>56125955
git good pleb
>>
>>56129826
No, that's incorrect. I'm the one with the Apple //e. It's the only retro computer I have. I was talking to the XT guys in one of these threads yesterday.

I'll stop posting until I have anything new.
>>
>>56133046
Shit, forgot to clear my name.
>>
>>56133046
>>56133068
Kek
>>
>>56133068
Next time try writing that in the "Subject" box instead of your name box.
>>
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>>56133046
Yeah, you talked to me, I just didn't bother answering him to just prove a point.
>>
>>56126261
Dude! How's the 4chan BBS server going!?
>>
>>56126261
FozzTexx?
>>
>>56133381

I'm not him, but my computer is connected to his BBS in that pic.

>>56133256

Getting there, I have a fortnight off work in a week, so I can work on it whenever.
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>>56133596
>Getting there, I have a fortnight off work in a week, so I can work on it whenever.
That's great news! Once you finish it, you will be a legend!
Man, I really should start learning doing that kind of stuff too.
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r8 my aesthetics
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>>56133669
I'm stressed out by this.
>>
>>56123670
Can we get a picture that's not for ants?
>>
>>56128263

do want
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>>56133669
flawless
>>
>>56133669
1998/10
>>
>>56133669

>1024x768

I hope you're pulling this off on a CRT or XGA TFT.

>tfw allergic against people who use 4:3 resolutions on 16:9 displays
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>>56133669
Topkek!
>>
>>56133669
oh, that css thing is really coming along.
>>
>>56134058
>I hope you're pulling this off on a CRT or XGA TFT.
I am. It's the monitor on the left in >>56125376
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>>56133669
how is web browsing on older pc's difficult or manageable
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>>56127247
>contiki master race reporting in
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>>56134677
With the right useragents, tools, and know-how, it's quite manageable.

As long as you can tolerate using mobile versions of websites, and client side video streaming (i.e. you can't watch a youtube video in-browser, but you can stream it through VLC)
>>
>>56134441
Very good.
Also, Kacey is a great artist.
>>
>>56134736
would
>>
>>56134849
have
>>
>>56134736
Okay

A few things wrong with that post

>Jpeg
Apple IIs cannot render Jpeg files, only CompuServeGIF and HGR binary.
>134KB
That one single image would nearly fill an Apple II formated floppy disk (140KB).
>1000x1041
Even if an Apple II could render Jpeg files, no way in hell would it have enough memory to display that.
>3d chick
Any self-respecting computer-collecting basement dweller would attach a weeb or furfag picture instead of that 3dpd
>>
>>56132478
>68k
>good CPU
>>
>>56135027
>computer-collecting basement dweller
This isn't 2005 anon, this is a hobby that requires good income.
>>
>>56135084
What? Is that some kind of "hurr I'm a retard" kind of bait? Don't really see that kind of shit outside /b/.
>>
is there a way i can use my C64 as a serial terminal since it's profoundly useless right now

i'd like to hook it up to a BSD machine
>>
>>56135222
Yes, Google, there are many guides using the serial port, you could also get something like 1541 Ultimate and then you can use the ethernet port.
>>
>>56133669
No Bonzi Buddy?
>>
>>56135294
do the terminal programs redefine the character sets so it doesn't use PETSCII?

i can't imagine it working very well otherwise
>>
>>56135334
No clue, I haven't tried it myself.
Will try too once I get a new C64.
>>
>>56135313
This!
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>>56135084
Of course.
>>
>>56135513
Very sexy anon
>>
>>56135513
That's a big 68k
>>
>>56135693
4 u
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>>56133669
10/10

I want one, clone it in Unix and rice it.
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SUCK IT DOWN
/g/ wwww
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>>56133669
yawn
>>
>>56135992
Oh man, I remember having some expansion board for some system with core memory in it when I was a kid.

Is it a part of some machine you have there? Moar?
>>
>>56135992
That's a nice kot you have there, too bad s/he is out of focus.
>>
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>>56136117
nope
only part.... trying to ID it

i got tons of retro shit doe..
>>
>>56136156
/share

Also, stop that macro photography and post proper pics!
>>
>>56134736
Man, once you open that picture it's hard to close.
>>
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>>56136166
i have to compress them .-.
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>>56136195
Think if you could make an adapter to actually use it!
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>>56135313
Bonzi Buddy doesn't run on Windows 98.
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>>56136217
no idea what the fuck is the bus

this is tetra 4 my fast as shit 486
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>>56136244
Ugh?
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>>56136195
What's this? Some sort of kit computer? Looks like it's from that era.
>>
>>56136260
Anon, are you aware that there's a huge ass rat living with you?
>>
>>56125941
Because they both refer to nostalgia for the early days of computers and the internet, do you not know what vapor wave is?
>>
>>56136280
Probably an memory expansion board of an old mainframe.
>>
>>56136289
i am not anon you fucking shit eating dick puller!

>>56136280
My guess is this
>>56136301


>>56136299
incorrect representation of the era
wwww
>>
>>56129871
2000. You can tell by the recycling can
>>
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>>56124573

GEOS was wicked fun

wish some start up would revive it and modernize it
>>
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>>56129871
This is windows MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeEEEEEEeeEEEEEEeeEEEEEEEEEeeEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeEEEEEEE
>>
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wwww
>>
>>56136463
Holy hist, only 20min until the tripfag went full retard.
>>
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>>56136489
fuckin relax
butt munch

I repaired this old friend
it works better now
>>
>>56136547
Is the cartridge kept together with tape?
>>
wwww i am formatting these disks.
Many of them are corrupted and are physically OK

>>56136561
yes myscrew driver for that shit is not good it has a shitty secure fuck in the way

so i rather just tape it shut or use a phillips replacement it is only temperary
>>
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>>56136575
better image
>>
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>>56136972
wwww lets PHP and futaba can file law suit against this site wwww because of violation of the original agreement

but meh
>>
>>56134736
I have Contiki too. Actually need to update to 2.7...
>>
>>56129223
Show the HAM, tripfriend.
>>
>>56137016
Why do you keep posting "wwww"?
>>
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>>56137207
w= warai = japanese lol
>>
>>56137238
I see
>>
>>56133669
Listening to Abelard? Nice
>>
>>56136547
Poor little N64
>>
>>56134736
This tickles my pickle.
>>
>>56134736
Her nipples are poking out of my screen!
>>
>>56136280
Its a stick of ram for some 1960's era mainframe. The wire crisscross things are where the information is stored.
>>
>>56137743
yeah i am thinking it is that too
>>
>>56137743
>Its a stick of ram for some 1960's era mainframe
That's one way to put it, kek
>>
>>56124533
>but everybody wants one
fucking hipsters
>>
>>56136260
can't say i've seen a 486 box with 128M of ram before
>>
>>56138455
72-pin SIMMs probably, 32MB ones are easy to come by, 64MB a little harder.
>>
>>56138482
most i did was 4*8M / 32M
>>
>>56138455
wwww

>>56138482
hmmm 128/4

yes they are 72
>>
>>56138455
Try a 8088 with 64MB expansion card, watching that memcheck is like waiting a kettle boil.
>>
>>56138515
i had a 486SX50 laptop with 24M ram whose memory check took a good 20 seconds for some reason
>>
>>56138531
I added 128MB to my Quadra 650, it gives a black screen for almost 2 minutes after the startup chime, counting memory in the background.
>>
>>56138515
what the flying FUCK?!

8088 only sees 1mb is this EMS?
XMS is not advalible on 8086s only 80286 or laters
>>
>>56138561
EMS, not very useful.
>>
>>56137238
>not using kek
>>
>>56136275
That video was awesome. I remember the guy trying to run "cmd" on Windows 98.
>>
>>56139332
cute
>>
>>56139332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMVmxjqsB_M
>>
>>56139369
topkek
>>
>>56138594
ah ok thats an ASS load of ems memory for an 8088 my XT has 2mb of EMS

it is useful when you know how to code it and understand it ^^;
>>
>>56138515
by the way what is that card?
>>
>>56139599
Some 16-bit Ramquest card that worked in 8-bit slots, really can't remember anymore, don't own one myself.
>>
>>56139690
ah ok thank you for the info

basically a rare and expensive as FUCK card wwww
>>
>>56138515
Dude, that's not even physically possible. The chip can only address 1MB max.
>>
>>56135136
>This isn't 2005 anon, this is a hobby that requires good income

What exactly are you collecting here? Low serial number Apple IIs from 1977?
>>
>>56124531
AE, ProComm, or something else?
>>
>>56140254

It probably uses paging and a 512k memory window.
>>
>>56140415
>512k
Most EMS cards only page in 16k chunks. Although I don't understand why 32k or 64k wasn't used.
>>
>>56140465
Yes, most, some do 64k even.
>>
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>>56135027
There, now your Apple II can display it. :^)
>>
>>56135027
Just use an HMDI to composite if you want it displayed on the Apple ][.

Or use it as a dumb terminal and use the aview program.
>>
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>>56141424
There's GIF viewers that do regular HGR mode and ones that do DHGR.
>>
>>56140355
>Low serial number Apple IIs from 1977?
...that Steve Jobs himself typed on.
>>
>>56141508
Right. Apple II collectors are notoriously obsessed with provenance, meaning some bigshot person owned/used the thing. If you had some ordinary, common as dirt IIe, but there's a rumor it could have been used by some celebrity, it ends up selling for like $10,000.
>>
>>56141508
Who cares about Jobs? Wozniak was the coder.
>>
>>56141486
Where can I find this?
>>
>>56142375
The original program was ][GIF written by Jason Harper in 1988 for the 8-bit Apple IIs, later he wrote SHRConvert for the IIgs.
>>
>>56142521
Found a similar program on github: https://github.com/nategri/apple2/tree/master/animation_2color
>>
>Apple IIs cannot render Jpeg files, only CompuServeGIF and HGR binary.
You have to remember that JPGs came out in the 90s, after the Apple II's time while GIF dates to the late 80s. The oldest OSes that can use JPGs are Windows 3.1 and Mac System 7.
>>
>>56129592
So like 85% of Amiga games?
>>
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Put some clothes on, dude.
>>
>>56143329
He's a cool dude. Says that the video game industry in the 80s wasn't much better than today in terms of trying to Jew the customer or their programmers. *cough*EA*cough* Also he resisted pressure to release a sequel to Karateka since Broderbund thought it was better to continue existing franchises than risk new ones.

The game took two years of work, keeping in mind him and his dad (who composed the game music) were the entire development team.
>>
>>56143401
Prince of Persia ended up being a far more huge game than Karateka (which was big in of itself) so...yeah.
>>
>>56143461
POP had a huge number of ports while Karateka was just on the Apple II, C64, Atari, and NES, but then POP also came out at the end of the decade when video game sales were booming unlike Karateka which was during the video game crash.
>>
POP was one game series that honestly never interested me.
>>
You could do a GIF viewer on the C64 I guess if you wanted to, but might be a little harder since the graphics are tiled and not bitmap-based.
>>
>>56125376
holy shit kill yourself fur fag
>>
>>56143937
C128 maybe would be better due to the extra RAM and higher resolution VDC modes.
>>
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>>56143988
The VCD more-or-less works like the VIC-II in that you have your familiar bitmap and programmable character modes, but there's no sprites and you cannot use raster interrupts which sort of puts the kibosh on split screen scrolling. It's basically only good for static pictures.
>>
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Just bought one of these at the flea market
>>
>>56143954
Calm your tits
>>
>>56144026
It was reported in computer magazines at the time that Sierra had planned to port King's Quest to the C128 but nothing ever came of it.
>>
>>56144204
Technical snag or maybe they didn't feel there was a big enough market for it.
>>
>>56144229
Probably a little of both. The C64 didn't have enough memory for the AGI engine. The C128 did, but I think the other issue is that the AGI engine was designed for a system with bitmap graphics and not tile/sprite ones.
>>
I found an Ollivetti M42 in my dads basement, but it doesn't even enter POST. What do?
>>
>>56142784
Not without a memory expansion.
>>
Someone make a new thread
>>
>>56143954
>waaah stop liking what I don't like
>>
NEW THREAD


>>56145061
>>56145061
>>56145061
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