Why is /g/ so obsessed with botnets and privacy? Don't

fuck I forget this guy's name

>>56122746
Dan "the hymen divider" Schneider?

>>56122701
this x1000

>>56122701

This

I just don't understand the "muh botnet" meme.
If the government wanted to know what you were doing, they're gonna know. Regardless of what OS you run, what browser and services you use. As long as you're not a pedo, terrorist, or doing something obviously illegal on a large scale, they don't give a flying fuck about you.

All you "muh botnet" faggots need to realize there are more interesting people to surveil than people on this board

>>56123447
I'm just worried about my drugs, okay, I know it's degenerate but it's still technically illegal here. I'm not harming anyone else but me. JUST LET ME BE

>>56122701
>>56123367
>>56123447
No botnets are obsessed with normal people. We just don't use them but you still shitposting.
>gps
Don't work inside buildings. Fuck you, botnets.

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He can't keep getting away with it!

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>If the government wanted to know what you were doing, they're gonna know. Regardless of what OS you run, what browser and services you use

How much tech illiterate are you ?

>>56123508
How much are you?

Wow, there sure are a lot of NSA operatives here today

>>56123533
I'm not at all

>>56123540
;-)

>>56123447
This is demonstrably false. How are known terrorists able to evade detection if the government instantly knows what they are doing?

It's because encryption actually works, and the government doesn't have some secret team that are smarter than all of the IT industry combined. You are giving them way too much credit.

Killed my GPS antenna an the first day. I know my position can still be triangulated via mobile network, but it's less precise and a 50m search radius can make a big difference compared to a more or less precise point on a map.

I'm aware that most/all http/https traffic is monitored, stored and processed. Hardware backdoors have been implemented into Intel cpus over a decade ago.

US companies are compromised by default, lots of FOSS/etc is getting "improved" by NSA staff/contractors.

I also know about things like guessing hashing/encryption shit by monitoring the exact power consumption, reconstructing data from the sounds a hdd makes, wireless bugs in cables and so on.

If anyone of the big players would want to fuck me up, I'd be fucked.

But here's the thing: Just because someone, somewhere COULD look up everything there is to know about me, I don't want every fucker who's got a badge or an internship at Google to be able to look up my point habits or what I buy when, where, for which price.

Dan "hold her tighter she's a fighter" Schneider never fails to make laugh

>>56123473
If you're not in the US (or one of the few Arabic shitholes where this also applies) no one's giving a shit about drugs. As long as you wipe chat history on all your devices you're fine, since that's what police could look up if they're looking into you for drug stuff (assuming you're only a consumer who's maybe supplying a few friends. When serious money is involved, you're fucked)

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>>56123756

>>56122701
Because everyone here is a pedophile terrorist with lots of documents about our political scandals and tax evasion.

>>56124335
Lots of people on g would want to hide their animated child pornography though because even they know their pedophilia is bad

>>56122701
Who the fuck is that and why does he have a chokehold on her?

>>56122746
>>56122753
>>56128678
Dan "si hay pelito no hay delito" Schneider

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>>56122701
>Don't you know your gps is always on in your phone as a safety feature?

Not if you have a phone that predates e911

>>56122701
Why is there so many pictures of this guy with his arm wrapped around teens?

>>56129387
Oy vey, put this cretin on a list!

>>56130524
it's a meme!

Avoiding american botnet is actually easy, but then you have to give in to russian or chinese botnet.
Unless you are building your own hardware (I mean literally building your own cpu from logic gates), you have backdoors in every piece of hardware made post 2001.

>>56123447
You guys really don't get it... It's about creating presedents. What if in 10 yrs your political regime is opressive? Google'd the wrong word? Execution time! Just a more extreme example. Having corporations and governements looking into your personality is a VERY bad idea. Maybe not today, but i'm telling you, your grandchildren will curse you! You lazy fuckers should be on the bloody barricades.

>>56130707
arguably, the government should hold such trust that you would gladly give them all of your info
if you cannot trust your government with truth, you might as well revolt

>>56122701
shes a qt what's her name

>>56130869
Dan "the junior high insider" Schneider

>>56122701
This very website has a botnet captcha
>Buy a 4chan pass goy
Fuck no.

>>56130848
the government having all data on the interests and activities of private citizens on the internets makes future revolt impossible, so even if government is great today, if it changes tomorrow we are fucked

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>>56122701
>Don't you know that you lose your privacy the moment you start using the internet?
Privacy is a sliding scale, not an either-or you have it absolutely or you have none at all sort of deal. Sure, I'll never have perfect absolute privacy without structuring my whole life around security like Ed Snowden has to. But I want, and can have fairly easily, a lot more than "none", and I think that's definitely worthwhile.

>>56123447
>If the government wanted to know what you were doing, they're gonna know.
>All you "muh botnet" faggots need to realize there are more interesting people to surveil than people on this board
Three-letter agencies much prefer to do what's easy. Sure, they have powerful surveillance tools, but those require having a target, and devoting expensive, trained people to attack that target. Know what's much easier and cheaper? Calling Google, or tapping into their systems once, and then having access to their huge database of people and everything they do online. And that passive, untargeted, dragnet surveillance is much easier to defeat than a targeted search by a nation-state adversary interested in you specifically.

And I'd want to do it anyway because I don't like the idea of a big company having a database of everything I do for the purpose of bombarding me with ads. Even if that company didn't share any of that information with governments.

>>56122701
Dan "The Hymen Collider" Schneider

>>56126620
no one cares about loli

>>56130707
This. Imagine what the Jews thought when the Nazis got a hold of their "I don't do anything illegal" documents and records.

>>56122701
Why is /g/ so obsessed with botnets and privacy?
>Because, it's called privacy for a reason

Don't you know that you lose your privacy the moment you start using the internet?
>No I do not, I use gentoo and proxies

Don't you know your gps is always on in your phone as a safety feature?
>I don't have a cell phone, sorry

Unless you disconnect yourself from the world, there's no escape.
>That's exactly what I did, thanks for the heads up


Seriously, I wanted a private life, I enjoy my privacy.
I had the misfortune of growing up before the internet was 'big'
yet during that time of growing up I paid close attention to how the
world was changing.

I didn't like it, so I did what I could to be off the grid, for the most part.

IMHO everyone on /g/ is probably obsessed with privacy because everyone on /g/ is a pedo

>>56133206
tl;dr you want to hide your shota collection from the NSA because you don't want to be thrown in prison for being a pedophile

>>56122701
>Don't you know that you lose your privacy the moment you start using the internet?
Completely agree goy- err I mean guy, Just give up your privacy.

>>56134018
Your humble opinion is false, hate to break it to you.

>>56129387
Is that Chrome and Unity?

>>56134018
Your opinion is shit

>>56130848
>trusting the government
>ever

>>56134128
Stupid pedophile

>>56122701
Who is that creep?

>>56134176
Okay, kid

>>56134192
Dumb pedoshit

>>56134128
Not too long ago, our neighbor board /b/ was home to a lot of cp. Guilt by association, even if you never visit /b/.

>>56134286
Sure thing bud

>>56134297
>Not too long ago, our neighbor board /b/ was home to a lot of cp
No shit, how can you be on any board and not know that?

i dont like cold pizza but i do like 2d girls

do i need privacy?

>>56134018
>nothing to hide because pedo and/or terrorism meme
yawn, be original next time

>>56134331
Right now it depends on what country you live. It's illegal in the Netherlands for instance, but wasn't before. So yes, you never know how laws will change.

>>56134331
Stupid pedophile

>>56134472
0/10 troll

>>56123588
No, it's because they aren't even fucking using the internet, never mind encryption.

It is trivial as fuck to create keywords that are literally sentences that tells Ahmed McTerrorist to blow himself up or whatever other stupid shit they do.

NO amount of intelligence will ever be able to detect that without total context of these peoples lives. (which they won't have because not everyone uses the internet, phones and the like)

Encryption is a fucking scapegoat for mass surveillance and nothing else.

>>56129387
WHO STILL LETS YOU USE A PHONE LIKE THAT!

I'm impressed as fuck

>>56134331
Some countries it's better to be safe. Most don't care about it. Just don't go running into the police station screaming that you like two dimensional girls.

>>56134534
>it's safe being a pedophile in some countries
Just don't get caught raping the neighbors 9 year old daughter :^)

>>56134548
You have real actual two-dimensional neighbors?

Do you live in Japan?

Because I have something to hide

Dan "Go ahead and hide her, my cock's been inside her" Schneider

I'm actually against being spied on by my own government because it's proven to be an incredible waste of taxpayers money. Doesn't actually stop any terror attacks. And is just overall creepy as fuck. That's why. Fucking retards.

>>56134353
I never said that people shouldn't care about their privacy because they have nothing to hide, just that there's a big correlation between people on /g/ and those who have a fetish for kids

>>56134859
So you make it more difficult to waste more taxpayers dollars? :')

>>56122701
OP is a faggot

Subpar citizens and shills fail to see the cynical and dangerous direction things are headed.

>>56135312
That said though, I don't deny the value of surveilling potential dangers and I've pretty much given up the thought of the world becoming any better in the short term.

>>56122701
GPS is completely passive.

You're drawing conclusions based on your stupidity, not mine.

You're the retard.

>>56122701
>Don't you know that you lose your privacy the moment you start using the internet?
Not really
>Don't you know your gps is always on in your phone as a safety feature?
What phone?

Dan "The Big Dick At Nick" Schneider
Dan "If You Want That Role Give Up That Hole" Schneider
Dan "The Large Hymen Collider" Schneider
Dan "Hold Her Tighter She's A Fighter" Schneider

>>56135434
Yes really, and every smartphone, or any one with gprs like the later nokias

>>56135554
Not really, and I meant I don't have a phone.

>>56135412
But cell acquisition isn't, retard.

>>56133997
If you want to get off the grid, stop posting on 4chan and enjoy your privacy in some great American forest, retard.

>>56128841
Someone should beat the shit out of him

>>56130869
Jenette Mccurdy

Dan 'The Man, Suzan They'll Hear You' Schneider

>>56133952
Canada cares about loli

>>56133952
>no one cares about cp

>>56137947
>loli is cp
top kek

>>56137956
It isn't?

>>56137970
Nope. cp is pornographic content of real human children, loli is cartoon drawings.

>>56137975
Cartoon drawings of what?

>>56138045
If I draw a hammer smashed kitten
Is that animal abuse?

>>56138076
If I trace a photo of a hammer smashed kitten is that animal abuse?

>>56138076
That depends what the image is used for since its a portrayal of animal abuse.
Same with loli.

>>56123447
>if you have nothing to hide ...
Hello Agent Johnson
>>56123473
>muh degeneracy
Hello /pol/

>>56138076
Why are you defending cp?

>>56138076
Autism.

Why does /g/ think encryption really works? It's only good if the US government doesn't actually care about you. The supercomputers at Fort Meade would shred anything you were able to produce in less than 24 hours and if my some miracle they needed more processing power they can just fucking borrow the black hole simulators.

>>56139294
>24 hours
No encryption anyone retarded enough to be on g while crying about botnets is that good

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Imagine waking up one day and discovering twelve men building a wall on your property line. You go outside and ask them what they are doing and they inform you that they are being paid by your local government to construct a wall around your property.

You call a lawyer and after a brief investigation, the lawyer you hired informs you that your local government used eminent domain to seize a small track of land surrounding everyone's property line and that there is nothing you can legally do to stop the 100 men currently building a wall around your property because the seizure and construction of the wall have been authorized by new emergency anti-terrorism legislation.

So there you are, waking up every day and looking out your window to watch the government slowly imprison you on your own property and there is nothing you can legally do about it. You are expected by everyone in your community to just accept it. Your neighbors are thrilled that they are getting a free wall and are convinced the wall is going to make them safe. When you complain to others in your community that the wall being constructed will mean the end of everyone's freedom and liberty, they laugh at you and mock you and call you nuts.

You're the only one in your neighborhood who can foresee the true nature of what the wall really represents.

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>>56139463
You faggots are really this delusional

Well, why is the government concerned about it's citizens viewing it's confidential/secret files? Matter of national security? It's a two way street.

Businesses have a lot of confidential information regarding business management and policies as well as research and development that's extremely sensitive and revealing it can be extremely damaging.

This same principle should be applied to individuals too. I know none of you will read this comment because you're all 12 year old redditors and the mods are fascist censorship cucks.

Nice try, NSA. But no one believes your stupidity/trolling. Now leave /g/ and never return.

>>56140168
Because security.

If government files were available to anyone willy nilly then the entire country is at risk.

If your files were available probably 2 people you'll never meet will laugh at your nudes and someone else will judge your music taste.

>>56139463
I'm guessing your a trump fan huh.

>>56122701
>Don't you know your gps is always on in your phone as a safety feature?
LOL safety from what?
shit will be stolen, and you can die at any moment regardless
there's literally never been anyone saved from the mass surveilance your government has imposed on its people.

meanwhile identity theft is at an all time high and continueing to increase. along with blackmail and nude leaks... i wonder why?

>>56140243
north korea has secure borders too :D
why would the US want to keep people in?
that's just silly.
it's notlike they have the highest incarceration rate out of any other country to have ever existed..

>>56140359
Fuck you're identity

>>56139463
It hurts that this is so true and most people don't get the importance of privacy and individual rights.

>>56140519
it hurts that there's so many pedos you can't fight for privacy because you'll be seen as actively protecting these sacks of shit, no matter how much you hate them

>meanwhile these laws and mass surveillance practices don't target pedophiles and the only time such laws are used, is for blackmail or removal of persons fighting against certain political agendas
srsly if pedophiles all just died we wouldn't have this fucking issue

>>56140519
In what way is that even true?
What the fuck

>>56140642
I'm surprised feds aren't all over 4chan rounding up those weaboo pedos

>>56123702
Underrated post.

Also, people who say "Hurr just don't do anything illegal" fail to see that the government can pretty much arbitrarily decide that you should be put on a watch list. For example, I went on a holiday trip to the United States last year. Before that, I had to fill out a ton of information about myself to get admitted to traveling. Who's to say they don't want even more information about me to make sure I'm a friendly tourist?