I know this is said a lot as a troll question but I'm legitimately

gpu passthrough

>>56122355
Move on! PC's are useless and you're more valuable than that. Who cares what other people think? No one is superior no matter how much tools you have for your PC fuck computers.

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>>56122363
>gpu passthrough
explain more? sorry i'm new to this shit desu

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>>56122355
www.gentoo4windows.org/download/g4win.exe

>>>/wine/

>>56122363
Everyone repeats this, but I'm convinced it's some sort of mythical beast that only one person in history ever got working.

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https://bufferoverflow.io/gpu-passthrough/

Build a second machine for gaming

>>56122391
>>>>/wine/
not a lot of shit works with wine i heard

>>56122403
performance loss?

>>56122391
It's not that hard senpai.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162768

>>56122419
Near native
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq345_v2-Ew

>>56122419
Wine is hit or miss. It either works great with a game, or just doesn't work. If you like some specific older games, you might get lucky. If you're keeping up with new AAA releases, you probably won't be so lucky.

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>>56122391
The thing about it is that I believe in order to maintain any sort of back and forth functionality, you need two cards, and one of the following: 1 monitor with a switch connector, monitor with dual ports, or two monitors. I thought I Could wing it with a nvidia card and AMD card, but looks like Linux can't make the two cards play nicely together unless you are using the passthrough.

>>56122355
Nope, me and my friends run some modern games on linux but its hit or miss and takes too much effort per game, or runs slower, or blegh.

Instead its way more practical to run linux on a second cheap/underpowered machine and remote desktop into it from windows. This is the ideal division of labor - let superior windows drivers do their thing on your beef rig, and connect that to your superior UX found on linux. Linux uses way less resources anyways so its as nimble on smaller compute as windows is on a modern machine. The only time this doesn't work is if you are doing a lot of compiling on linux, in which case you probably aren't NEET and can afford two premium rigs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_w49u5paLQ

>>56122501
Note - it probably works if your mobo has a VGA out or something too, but mine doesn't sadly.

>>56122583
oh wait, so does gpu passthrough need two gpu's or something?

>>56122787
no

You need to take a stance that if you can't run a game in GNU in some way or the other, it's not worth running. Honestly, 99% of modern games aren't worth playing; they're story-heavy garbage and/or have poor gameplay (almost always both). This isn't just sour grapes, because I wouldn't play this garbage if I did have Windows installed, and I don't even want a console because console gaming is filled to the fucking brim with that crap.

There are tons of GNU native games, tons of emulatable stuff, and tons of games that run perfectly or very nearly so in Wine. So why do you need Windows?

You don't.

>>56122867
And the GPU passthrough crap is basically you installing Windows. Don't bother. Don't let Microsoft control your computer and your life.

Be free.

>>56122391
>Everyone repeats this, but I'm convinced it's some sort of mythical beast that only one person in history ever got working.
my brother got it working and so did wendell on tek syndicate

>>56122787
if you want to also play games on the host then it's basically required, otherwise I think you have to reboot and/or switch cables around to get the discrete gpu working on the host again

>>56122375
Is this pasta?

>Who cares what other people think?
He's literally only worried about his own thoughts here. He prefers GNU/Linux but doesn't want to abandon his video games.

>>56122867
>>56122881
Very well said.

/thread

>>56122787
Practically all non-server CPUs have a builtin GPU, which is fine for this purpose.

Get intel cpu with vt-d. Install your favourite type 1 hypervisor. Get a monitor with 2 input or just get 2 monitors. Give your windows install your GPU and your linux your iGPU.

Works about 90-95% native fps. Also get like 6 cores so that you have 4 for your windows and 2 for linux to play dwarf fortress or shit

Thanks guys, I didn't know it was an option or anything. Now that I know I may be able to finally switch over to Linux!

How do you guys feel about that run linux on a second machine/remote in option?

Also does X11 forwarding to something similar, would it be better, etc?

Also what about Bash on Ubuntu on Windows or whatever?

>>56123058
virtualize and ssh

>>56123067
explain?

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>>56122867

>You don't have to find a solution to your problem; you just have to change what you want

>I don't want to play the games you want to play, so you don't either

I'm all for software that respects your freedoms and all that. I'm just pointing out that this doesn't help OP at all. Using illogical arguments will drive people away rather than convert them to the cause.

>>56123144
Thanks, anon. I honestly don't want to miss out on my games, regardless of what other people think -- I really enjoy playing them with my girlfriend and they give me good break from life.

I do want that superior UX though, haha.

Can you use integrated GPU as the second one with passthrough?

>>56122355
I was able to play TF2 without any problems by installing Steam through Wine (on Arch). I'm pretty sure you can play any game this way.

>>56123283
>I was able to play TF2 without any problems by installing Steam through Wine (on Arch). I'm pretty sure you can play any game this way.

Some games are compatible some aren't apparently.

>>56123283
Wine is hit or miss, some programs work perfectly while others won't even start.

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>>56122391
much like virginity, a successful gpu passthrough is now a rite of passage, you can only say you're a true gamer and technologically savvy if you can do it

you can't say you're a man until you've done it once

>>56122867
are you spoon-fed your games? you probably also believe all music these days is le crap

So how does a 6700k do with vm and gpu passthrough? Will a 6800k perform better for games?
Has somebody done benchmarkings with gpu passthrough?

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Does anybody have a good guide/readup for GPU passthrough? I'm interested in giving it a shot. What exactly would I need?

Run Windows then run Linux in VMware exclusive mode.
Problem solved

>>56123188
Yes, but you'll need to patch the kernel.

>>56123502
Isn't vmware paid?

>>56123636
So? If you can afford video games you can afford VMware

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>>56123648
>afford games

>>56123648
performance on VMware?

>>56123636
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>>56123666
For desktop Linux usage you'll never notice any performance difference unless you have a true poorfag build

>>56123774
i guess i could do that instead of gpu passthrough

i have a 5820k, will watching vidyas etc be fine?

>>56123784
Yes should be no problem

>>56123454
I did a GPU passtrough with an i5 3570, I play GTA V and Witcher 3 fluent.
But as soon as I finished the Witcher I will move to Linux gaming only, not even wine

>>56123459
You need a CPU and mainboard which supports Vt-d

>>56123784
I watch 1080p Videos with internal grapics. You can give the internal graphics a bit of your RAM

>>56123961
on VMware or do you mean in regards to gpu passthrough

>>56123660
nice font, cunt

>>56123454
It's a bit easier to set it up with a 6800k because it has ACS support, but both should work well.

>>56123502
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>>56123993
is it better than vmware?

>>56123971
Oops i mean GPU Passtrough. But if you want to do this the Linux way at least use Proxmox or Qubes OS

>>56124004
I'm not sure about vmware, but it sure as fuck is better than virtualbox by a lot.

>>56124023
>Proxmox, Cubes OS
what are these

>>56124030
memes, use Arch/Debian/Gentoo/Fedora

>>56124030
Proxmox is a Debian Hypervisor with nice GUI and Qubes OS is a desktop OS made for virtualisation

>>56123058
Last I checked, you could do X11 forwarding on windows if you do something involving cygwin on windows. I haven't tried it, but its something I barely remember looking up.

>>56123080
Manipulate the host/guest from the guest/host using ssh, a remote terminal

>>56124079

I heard if you use cygwin you end up having to recompile/modify a lot of stuff. I don't think I'm tech savvy enough,

Just do a GPU Passtrough and you'll be fine

>>56122355
it triggers me that its i3-gaps and not superior vanilla i3

>>56124156
And do it with QEMU

>>56122867
This is the fucking stupidest thing I've ever heard.

>>56122355
>0,50$s have been transferred to your poo2luunix account

What distro do you use? I think if you use a hypervisor you geht problems with fullscreen applications vor may need 3 monitors and or gpus if you want your favourite distro and Window$

>>56124207
QEMU?

>>56124248
I was messing with Arch.

>>56124256
Look up qemu in arch wiki. You also could use Antergos to geht familiar. I use Antergos as my Main OS for over 2 years, never looked back

>>56124256
Arch based Distros are like made for GPU Passtrough, thats good

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>>56122355
GPU passthrough with qemu is the way to go, if your hardware supports it

I've been using this for more than 1.5 years now with no real problems to run my farmbots in a VM (to make a little extra cash)

The first time you set it up it's a little confusing if you're not very familiar with some of the lowlvl linux features, but the second time I set it up [after a hard drive fail] it was done and running within about 30 minutes.
The guide on arch wiki and the forums are really detailed and the thread has tons of info too.

>>56122391
pic related

>>56122355
if you're ok with only having integrated graphics (for example, you're on a laptop) and your cpu supports gvt-g you might want to try to set that up
I couldnt get it to work though, my gvt-g kernel somehow couldnt boot

>>56124305
>farmbots in a VM (to make a little extra cash)
Why not a clientless bot?
Are you not hardcore enough anon?

I passend trough a USB pcie card and use a USB and DVI switch the possibilities are nearly unlimited

>>56122391
Uh, it's not hard. If your hardware supports it, all you need to do is stop the OS/driver from grabbing the card at boot with either pci-stub or vfio, and then you could just use virt-manager to pass your card to your VM.

>>56124305
what's a farmbot?

I see, so basically I would run Windows on a VM and it would use my GPU in the VM. Is there input lag, etc?

>>56124358
Then mount this ISO in Windows https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Windows_Virtio_Drivers follow this https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide/form-Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide-Para_virtualized_drivers-Mounting_the_image_with_virt_manager.html

>>56124360
Ony problem I noticed is with audio but therefore you could use an USB audio Adapter for less than 10€

>>56124360
never heard of bots in mmos?

>>56124360
The only thing I had a problem with was mouse input delays/stuttering in some games, but I think it's just me since I can't find anything at all on google about this.

>>56124387
oh that's what you meant, sorry i'm fucking tired right now

>>56124385
andddd i just realized my issue with doing this.

i have an audio interface, scarlet 2i2 and a amp/dac

i don't think the amp/dac would cause issues but i don't think my audio interface has drivers for linux rip

>>56124329
I've had a take in writing a custom client as I'm quite versed in the game's protocol by now due to the many hours I've wasted on it. I got beyond the authentication steps but ran into too many problems in the follow up that made me decide that getting it to work would require too many workhours to make it worthwhile.
The game I'm botting is pretty small so that the amount of valuables I can sell to chinese resale websites is too much of a niche to scale up much larger.

>>56124360
There's no input lag that I can notice as I passthrough my mouse and keyboard to the VM, then use Synergy to make them available to my arch host system. I can also broadcast 24bit audio to my host system just fine with no humanly noticeable lag.

You can then also write several launch scripts for qemu with different quantities for CPU cores and RAM used which makes it pretty convenient. So when I want to try an AAA game [which happens very rarely], I supply the VM with 12GB of my machines RAM and 6 cores, and if I need more performance on my host I can cut this down by launching the other script.

Where do you live OP? Since I will go full Linux I could sell you my DVI and USB Switches and my USB 3.0 Card if you want to. I could also support you with your Passtrough. I have the tutorials and startscript etc. Btw. I live in Germany

>>56124385
I just used the VNC audio method, this obviously requires you to have a SPICE window open on the host.

Something like, edit /etc/default/libvirt-bin
vnc_allow_host_audio = 1
qemu_audio_drv = alsa

tadah, 'shared audio'

Is the audio device connected with pcie or USB or onboard?

Has someone tried gpu passtrought with unraid or similars?

>>56124449
if your asking about my audio interface, usb

It's a awsome discussion but I have to shower, I smell like shit and I'm going to sell something soon, I'll join later. OP pass through your audio device and use it in Windows if it desn't work with Linux. Use onboard sound or buy a USB Adapter which works with Linux, bye

>>56124450
LTT did this :^)

Now I smell like a human beeing again :D OP you want to post your tox ID here for further support?

With an SSD and any remotely modern system it takes less than 30 seconds to switch OS. Way less hassle than any of the other methods.

Dual boot is the way to go unless you're too impatient to wait less than a minute to start a gaming session.

>>56124757
Dualbooting would never be an option for me

>>56122867
nice troll, I rate 7/10
almost believed you

>>56125053
Same for me.
Enough Steam games are on Linux now that I'll never have to Windows again.

>>56123283
Famalam, tf2 and all other valve games run better in native Linux (no wine)

Just play games that are available for GNU.
Good games include:
* XCOM
* XCOM 2
* Europa Universalis
* Civilization V (with addons)
* Civilization BE
* Papers Please
* Life is Strange

More than enough to waste a year with.

>>56122867

We're talking about a demographic that routinely pays for broken on release products before they're even released.

>>56122391
I've done it.
And once you know how you can do it as many more times as you want.
Almost a Linux rite of passage by this point.

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NO TUX, NO BUX

>>56122355
Playonlinux. It'll play most things. Don't buy the new aaa games unless they have Linux support or will play in wine.

If you really need them get a second video card and pass it through to a windows 7 vm.

>>56122387
In kvm you can dedicate a video card to a virtual machine. You'll need to switch inputs and dedicate a couple USB ports as well (or a usb hub).

>>56122387
Pedo

>>56122787
Not for most modern computers. They do but you can leave the onboard to the hypervisor.

>>56122867
It's sad that this is true. AAA titles aren't worth playing, they literally either have no story or shit story. You'd find better storylines in 15 year old games.

>>56122355
reddit

>>56123359
That looks pretty nice