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> Discord
https://discord.gg/wdg
OR
https://discord.gg/0qLTzz5potDFXfdT
(they're the same)

>IRC Channel
#/g/wdg @ irc.rizon.net
Web client: https://www.rizon.net/chat

>Learning material
https://www.codecademy.com/
https://www.bento.io/
https://programming-motherfucker.com/
https://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books/blob/master/free-programming-books.md
https://www.theodinproject.com/
https://www.freecodecamp.com/
http://www.w3schools.com/
https://developer.mozilla.org/
http://www.codewars.com/
>Crockford on Javascript
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7664379246A246CB

>Frontend development
https://github.com/dypsilon/frontend-dev-bookmarks

>Backend development
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks
backendDevelopmentBookmarks.md

>Useful tools
https://pastebin.com/q5nB1Npt/
https://libraries.io/ - Discover new open source libraries, modules and frameworks and keep track of ones you depend upon.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web - Guides for HTML, CSS, JS, Web APIs & more.
http://www.programmableweb.com/ - List of public APIs

>NEET guide to web dev employment
https://pastebin.com/4YeJAUbT/
>How to get started
> [YouTube] 2016/2017 MUST-KNOW WEB DEVELOPMENT TECH - Watch this if you want to be a web developer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBzRwzY7G-k [Embed]
> [YouTube] Javascript is Easy - "JavaScript is Easy" - If you can't into programming, you probably won't find a simpler introduction to JavaScript than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf_cb_Nw5zY [Embed]

>cheap vps hosting in most western locations
https://lowendbox.com
https://www.digitalocean.com/
https://www.linode.com/
https://www.heroku.com/
https://www.leaseweb.com
https://www.openshift.com
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Anyone know a good online page mockup tool? Pretty much just need to draw boxes and text
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>>56109750

might as well write some html templating and css and be done with it. The only way to get accurate mockups.
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I'm making a phone number reporting tool with react and node. How do I generate new pages whenever users report new phone numbers? I just need some direction, I can figure out the rest once I have google terms
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>>56110152
Dear god...

Do you think you have to buy a new tv for every tv channel you want to watch as well? Just parametrize your page.
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Anyone want to be business partners? I want someone like me so you must use vim or emacs, Linux as your main desktop OS, hate both Clinton and trump and sjws, not be a weaboo, and must be pro-privacy. I'm an intermediate developer and I prefer to code the back end. I know js and I'm learning golang. I want someone whose also intermediate but wants to code more towards the front end. If anyone is interested shoot me a message at [email protected]
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I'd like to upgrade a legacy-ish project to use Browserify or Webpack (currently based on bower+wiredep+gulp+pure voodoo magic), but the thought of having to manually update 8.5k lines of code is kind of daunting
It kind of helps that everything is already ultra-modularized, but still
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>>56110416

Do I also have to look like you? It would get wierd getting a blowjob from someone who's your doppelganger.
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I have a word press site for my company right now. Family business. I want to wipe it an d put a new one in. Getting rid of the word press part would be difficult and I am not sure if I want to in the long run.

Right now I just want to make a one page thing for the business is there a good guide for WordPress just to get that done? I will get more complicated later but right now I just need to refresh it.

Overall WordPress seems like more of a pain then it is worth but there are some things I would like to keep on there like a calculator for product sizes. Doesnt feel like I have tons of control though.

Also need to pick some standard image sizes got about 1000 pics in lightroom right now and want to pull from them for the page.

It should be a long page with info folded into drop downs or something.

Anyone know a good place to start with WordPress?
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>>56110596

I should add I can code python C and some C++. html and css is fine but Ive avoided WordPress this thing just feels shitty. There has to be a way to open it up though.
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>>56110416
Check, check, check, check...
>not be a weeaboo
Well fuck you too.
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>>56110683
I would take a weaboo as long as you didn't carry one of those pillows around and speak Japanese around me
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That panic that slowly sets in as you start out in new company and struggle with their tech choices.
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>>56110742
Impossible. All weaboos purposely carry pillows around and try to speak japanese to their fellow citizens.
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>>56096788
I plan on at least checking out Ruby once I've set everything up and migrated all my sites. So far it's the only server scripting language I have experience with.

>>56097743
Thanks. I've done a good amount of research since that last point and now know it's possible, but...

Exim4 is the default MTA on my VPS. It's not configured at all. Looking up the web I find lots of stackoverflow posts showing how to use various MTAs as null clients to get the job done with PHP mail().

Problem is all those posts assume those MTAs are already preconfigured for the job.

Isn't there a conclusive tutorial on how to set up any MTA as a null client from scratch to use with script functions?

Otherwise I only have a tutorial for settig up one's own webserver on hand. I may end up going down that path if I don't find anything else...

but that may be an unfathomable pain in the ass.
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>>56110416
you're supposed to have someone who complements you, not just a copy of yourself. jeez i thought you web dev fags were all into this diversity shit already
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>>56112394
and the type of gnu/linx vim/emacs neckbeard you're describing isn't gonna do front end web dev lmfao
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>>56109750
Using draw.io for that
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>>56110485
8.5k lines is nothing nigga. The project my boss put me on is at least 50k.
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this thread sure looks busy. Why is this separate from /dpt/ again?
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Anyone want to be my business partner?

We are making a dating-like website in PHP/mySQL and jQuery. You must like trump if even just because he is not Hillary. SJWs are cancer. Transexuals are mentally ill suicide cases. You must be a giant weeaboo. Preferably hikikomori with a large loli collection.
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>>56113024
You should make a political questionnaire when you sign up for the site, if you score too liberal, you get lumped in with all the other leftists and are randomly matched up with each other. Only if you score above that group do you get matched appropriately.
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Does anyone know how to hide the navbar in bootstrap when on mobile, but keep the drop-down working.

anything like .navbar display:hide means that the drop-down gets hidden as well.
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>>56110485
>the thought of having to manually update 8.5k lines of code is kind of daunting
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>>56112359
Why don't you just use some SMTP client like PHPmailer?
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>>56113766
That's an option too, but I'd have to find a mail provider who I can relay to first.
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Anyone wanna team up and make an app? I have an idea for one. It's like twitter but better. Twitter is becoming obsolete and its not personal anymore. Bloated as fuck. I'll manage the project. I can code but only front end shit.
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>>56113766
Considered it. Wanted to test it with the mail account connected to my shared webhosting, but don't know what the port would be for that.

Really seems like setting up a mailserver myself would be the simplest thing to do.
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>>56114100
Do you like anime?
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>>56114123

no
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>>56114004
>>56114119
I have used gmail. There should be tons of tutorials out there about configuring it. Honestly i think you are overthinking this.
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>>56114119
>setting up a mailserver yourself
>simple
Just use an API like gmail's for now so you can keep moving forward with the important features in a prototype. Once you've made more progress and have a better idea of what you need, you can set up your own mail server and swap it out for the other one.
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>>56110416
>business partners
>with someone who looks for business partners on 4chan
>provides a list of arbitrary bullshit as requirements
>describes self as "intermediate" developer but doesn't provide any indication of professional or business experience
Sign me right the fuck up senpai!

>Linux as your main desktop OS
Only hobbyists use Linux as a desktop OS, professional web developers use OSX.

>not be a weaboo
Okay I agree with this.
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>>56110485
Is it really an upgrade though or are you just falling for memes? Does the existing build system shit out something awful? If not then why bother?
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So I just went to W3schools and took the Javascript test to see where I was at. I got an 84%. Am I ready to just put what I know to work onto my website projects with the help of Google and Javascript references on W3schools?
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>>56114456
Being able to identify the correct way of doing things isn't the same as being able to implement them yourself.

I don't know "how much" you know about JS, only you can be the judge of that. Try doing shit on your own, if it doesnt work, maybe find a better source to learn than a multiple choice quiz on W3schools.

Check out Freecodecamp, probably the best way to dive into JS and apply it to real world applications.
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>>56114568
I think I know plenty of JS to at least learn as I go. I've taken a Java class and know a bit of Php. Apart from the syntax, don't they all follow the same semantics? I've also done the Codecademy on it. Only thing I bug on is how to insert code into Html. Haven't done much of the whole, "getDocumentById()" or whatever. I don't think I'm going to bother with Jquery either since my goal is back-end.
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>>56114456
I literally just took this test. I've never written a line of JS. Got 84%. Safe to say no you are not ready.
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>>56114618
Go for it then. I've learned that the hardest part of learning your first language is the transition from Beginner --> Intermediate.

Only because you know enough to do "Something" but you don't know what "Something" is if you haven't seen it or used it.

This is where I see most people give up. Don't give up.
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>>56114622
Well JS is similar to all languages. Just gonna use the reference instead of taking some crash course.
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>>56114456
>Am I ready
If you have a pulse you're ready to start using Javascript.
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>>56114456
>W3schools
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Guys I know fuck all about anything but am interested in learning php as I want to change career paths and there are a fuck load of relatively well paying jobs in my area asking for people who know php and sql.

I've started studying some material and watching tutorials.

With a longer term view i'd like to become freelance and stop being a wagecuck.

How realistic is this?

I appreciate this is a probably a retarded question.
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>>56115456
also interested, preferably in back end but full stack is a realistic goal
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>>56115456
>With a longer term view i'd like to become freelance and stop being a wagecuck

Freelance is the worst kind of wagecuckoldry though. You're doing 3 jobs. Finding work, doing the work, and chasing clients for the money that you're owed for having done the work. All while competing with every Pajeet and Sandeep on Fivrr and Upwork who will willingly work for a bowl of rice a day.

What you're looking for is Consultancy, which is what you do after a successful career with experience and industry contacts.

Alternatively you could make your own side-project and get money from it
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8844083

>php
There's a lot of choice in langauges, try a few and then choose the one you like the most and someone will probably pay you to do it. Most of the jobs near me were also PHP and ASP.NET, but I learned Node.js, and ended up in a Node.js dev job that I actually like. Yes, its possible to get a job you like.
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>>56110909
Not even once senpai
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So what's /wdg/'s recommendation in web hosting?
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>>56114100
Are you me?

This is what I'm doing. Already have market reach to a few hundred thousand.
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How do I make a button play a sound on click and if there is a sound already playing (say from another button or the same button), stop that sound and then play its sound?

Like a soundboard thing. How do I make a soundboard?
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>>56116414

Digital Ocean if you have skills.
AWS or Azure if you love having opinions shoved down your throat. And Godaddy if you don't know what you're doing, and want to throw up a WordPress webshite that runs like a sloth in wet cement.
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>>56109720
Hey /wdg/ I have some questions. I'm learning how to be a full stack developer and I have 3 years experience in C# and Python and C++ among others, and I'm getting a grounding right now in HTML and CSS.

So far I've made a few pages with Flask, but now I'm starting to wonder about Javascript. What role does it play?

Is Javascript the serverside scripting language?

Like,
>Python: The backend language(because of Flask)
>Javascript: The serverside scripting language
>HTML & CSS: The front end languages
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>>56117563
Front end scripting.
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>>56117641
Ahhhhhh ok that makes sense.
So is Javascript pretty much necessary for shit, or can I BS my way around it somehow? The way I've been doing shit on webpages so far is just by passing shit to and from the HTML with Python.
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>>56117563
>>56117658
>I'm learning how to be a full stack
>So is Javascript pretty much necessary for shit, or can I BS my way around it

Apply yourself
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>>56117153
Boolean for if sound is playing. Timeout sound length to function to reset everything and save button ID to check with a conditional against button ID of new clicks if sound is still playing (your boolean)

Pretty straight forward
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>>56117563
>>56117658
i know i'm in a web dev thread but seriously... i mean seriously...
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>>56117860
It's what happens when /dpt/ tries to get in on that "easy" /wdg/ money.

It's funny how they worry so much about garbage collection because being a trashman is their only viable career choice.
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>>56117658

Depends on what you want to do, but learning Javascript properly if you have some programming experience is quite a trip. Don't fall for the framework meme, learn it from scratch.

At the very least, learn the ES6 edition, but for all it's warts, the ES5 standard has a flexibility that many other languages don't have.
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how would i ublock this pop-up? it's a shitty ad on a forum and i can't click on the popup with ublock since it disappears.
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>>56117908
Well that's just retarded.
I'm not trying to make money or any of that shit. I'm a hobbyist. I already have a career as a bank teller, and I just do this shit in my spare time. Maybe you should keep your ebin /dpt/ board war to yourselves.
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>>56118102
>I already have a career as a bank teller
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>>56118251
No really.
The only reason I ever come to /g/ in the first place is if I have a question I can't google for, and then I go into either /dpt/ or /wdg/. After I get the answer I close the page. I don't really like the majority of the people who post in these threads, and this is the reason why. It's just a circlejerk. I don't care about your retarded bad blood with /dpt/, I just wanted an answer, and you automatically make the assertion that I'm trying to make easy money. Probably because you're insecure about your job being easy to do or something. Which I'm not trying to say at all, but Jesus. You're just setting yourself up to get fucked with by /dpt/ or whatever.

But listen - I'll tell you what; since I have my answer, I am going to go ahead and close out of this thread and leave you to your retarded circlejerk.
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>>56118302
That wasn't even me who posted that.

I'm pretty sure the "war" is just a bunch of cracking jokes. You would have to be ultra autistic to think anyone is actually serious.
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>>56118302
>I have a question I can't google for

You're literally asking what javascript is.
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>>56118043
open ublock settings
open my filters
add
urlofwebsite##.idofcontainer

This should work
unless that thing is generated dynamically on every page visit
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>>56118302
Whether or not you're trolling I can somewhat relate to this. I've been lurking/posting in these threads for about a year now and I can't tell you why I do. The cool thing about 4chan and these persistent threads is that they're like the perfect blend of a forum and an IRC, maybe thats why. I help people out when I can but its mostly a clusterfuck of people trying to tell you why the framework/tools they use is better than what everyone else uses.
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Redesignan' in React
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What is /g/'s opinion of react? I'm actually just getting started with web dev and development in general, and it seems good...
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anyone manage to install ffmpeg-php on their server recently? Not finding any good guides on the internet.
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I'm trying to create a youtube clone. how does youtube generate their thumbnails for their videos?
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>>56119445
Let me contact my google engineer for you. I hope he doesn't mind getting woken up in the middle of the night.

You could use ffmpeg.
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>>56119491
I can't figure out how to install ffmpeg properly on my server. shits frustrating. every guide out there is outdated as shit.
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>>56119518
Linux binaries: http://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/
just extract them and set path if you want to use them globally
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>>56119572
i already dloaded ffmpeg through the terminal but apperently I need to dload the php extension in order to be able to use it through my web host.
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>>56119621
>php
good luck friend
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>>56119655
every fucking time with you edgelords
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>>56110909
I only have experience with medium and large size enterprises making me struggle with their bad tech choices.

Seriously if the products sold by the vendor actually worked there's be no jobs.
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>>56119621
you literally just
shell_exec("ffmpeg whatever");

if you're using shared web hosting that doesn't allow shell_exec, drop it and get a VPS
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How can I fix it?

They are asking for my resume and I delayed to post it here.

How retarded does this sound and how can I make it better?

By the way, I'm pretty sure this isn't an entry-level job.
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Anyone want to be business partners? I want someone who is cis hetero male to offset my crippling social shortcomings as a crossdressing neet catgirl full stack javascript programmer. I would prefer someone who exclusively specializes in php/python to just sit and watch me code for hours on end, refill my bowl, handle the social/interpersonal aspects of the business, sounding, please no clinton or trump. If anyone interested shoot me a message at [email protected]
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>>56119621
what about this:
https://github.com/PHP-FFMpeg/PHP-FFMpeg
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>>56119445
>youtube clone
Why would you want to do this?

Anything dealing with video is going to murder your bandwidth.
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>>56119894
what kind of sites should i practice on in order to get work asap?
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>>56119907
A functioning Twitter clone would land you a job most places.

It's also not unbearably difficult.
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>>56119937
cool man, ty
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>>56119937
I made a single page crud app for a mongodb but I dont have the balls to apply for developer jobs. would that work semp?
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>>56119964
I dont know. I'm the guy that posted the phpajeet resume.

All I know is you're trying to impress a retarded HR person. Pretty pictures and animations will do that as well as anything social media related. A Twitter clone is just a holy grail combination of everything that would impress a developer too.
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I've been fucking around with mobile apps and I figured out a great way to make them look good and be functional. I also managed to use it to fetch information from a pretty simple PHP API that I created that shows the contents of the blog database on my personal site, nothing fancy.

What else could I do with this? What is a relatively simple app I could make with this knowledge?
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>>56119805
Anyone?
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>>56120560
have a (You)
I dont know anything about resumes
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>>56120821
I just erased the retarded wording, made it into a comma list and sent it out.

My resume is 3/4 of a page long. INTO THE TRASH IT GOES
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>>56119805
>programming languages such as HTML, CSS

Stopped reading right there, and I bet they did too.
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>>56109720
So I made an account on a couple different job sites and posted my shitty resume to each of them. I have no degree and I've never worked a job in my life, and my resume literally just says that I have a strong foundation in html / css / javascript and I'm working on getting better at other bullshit.

I keep getting emails from recruiters talking about senior-level positions with salaries of $100k+, and it's obvious that most of these are auto-generated, but is it still worth applying? I was thinking about just ignoring these emails, but not if I can gleam some kind of benefit from responding to them.
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>>56121165
*glean
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Can anyone help me decipher what any of this means? I'm trying to install ffmpeg-php extension.

I download the file and try to install it. Here are the installation directions:

"Unpack the ffmpeg-php sources

tar -xjf ffmpeg-php-X.x.x.tbz2

Change to the ffmpeg-php extension directory and run phpize (included with your PHP installation) to build configuration files. NOTE: if your php installation does not include phpize, you may have to install a php-dev package for your distro (usually named: php-dev, php-devel or similar)

cd ffmpeg-php-X.x.x/
phpize

Configure and build the extension.

./configure && make

Install the shared extension.

sudo make install

If everything went as planned, ffmpeg-php is now installed as a shared extension.""

The tar command line code isn't doing shit so I'm just extracting through archive manager and saving the stuff on my dloads. I dloaded php7.0-dev and got a phpize7.0, but don't know what to configure it to. I'm completely lost.
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how can i decrease the size of the line breaks in this tables 2nd row (first row says the levels, 2nd row says the descriptive text)

e.g. how can i make the new line break between "starting with" and "optimisation" under level 1 smaller?
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>>56121396
>The tar command line code isn't doing shit
Maybe try
sudo tar
instead? As for installing/configuring the plugin, I'm not sure I can help you. Other than unpacking the files with tar, what else are you having trouble with?
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Can someone tell if this site is legit because the basic bootstrap template is fucking with my confidence.

http://wfh.io
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>>56121482
i just can't follow those installation instructions. ffmpeg seems rather popular but i can't find any guides to install that works.
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>>56121417
css line-height property
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>>56121396
>>56121537
I will say it again, stop trying to install a nonstandard PHP extension just to use a basic command line utility like ffmpeg.

Either use shell_exec() to call it directly or, if you really can't figure out how to use it properly, use >>56119847
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>inb4 recruiter ceases contact after reading my resume.

No no no, see here? This entry-level PHP job requires 5 years of professional experience with PHP or a CS degree where you used PHP for 1 week 3 years ago. We can't have you because you clearly know nothing without a degree.

I'm going to start showing them my depressing meme website with a thousand pages of user-submitted content.
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>>56121396
unpack it
cd into that directory
run phpize
then ./configure
then make
like really, you just wrote the instructions... just follow them
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>>56121581
>shell_exec()
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>>56121627
give me one reason why it's bad without mentioning "user input"
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>>56121616
phpsize isn't in the file so no good.

./configure - i have no idea hwere to put that where to input it or w/e

make- idk what that means

not explaining anyhting.
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>>56121537
>unpack the downloaded tarball
>go to the directory that was generated (should have the same name as the tarball just without an extension)
>run phpize
>run ./configure && make
>run sudo make install
Should be working now, no configuration needed. I still don't see what's tripping you up; maybe you need to use sudo for some commands?
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>>56121652
type it into your fucking terminal you retard

type 'phpize' into your terminal
type './configure' into your terminal
type 'make' into your terminal

jesus christ
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>>56121652
phpize is a shell command, run it in the terminal
configure is a file that gets created when you run phpize
Also, just tried to install it with php7, no luck
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>>56117563
JavaScript is client-side in-browser on-the-google-nets scripting. Holy fuck anon.Just search "<your browser here> javascript console" on the interbutts and you'll find it. You may be confused by the fact that you have either heard or used (through node.js) javascript without a supporting browser. This is not standard behaviour. JS was made with the browser in mind. I am not saying serverside JS is an abomination unto God (I'm still on the fence), but if you already have another language on the backend, integrating it with JS (or any non-compiled langauge for that matter) is usually a waste of time
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>>56121675
settle down, ya big baby

>>56121685
yea i can't go further because phpize isn't to be found. says to install php-dev. did php7.0-dev and there is a phpize7.0 on some other path '/usr/bin/phpize7.0/. can't open it though.
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>>56121726
see >>56121581
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>>56121637
> give one reason reason why cyanide is bad without mentioning its toxic properties
meh, if you can guarantee user input will get nowhere near it, it should be fine, I guess
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>>56121774
exactly
to generate video thumbnails you should not have to feed any user input into it, if you do you probably have bigger problems to worry about
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>>56119176
It's fun. Webpack and all of the different tools you can choose from really is cancer though. If you're just starting out just use the official react boilerplate called create-react-app.
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>>56121737
okay so here's the command

ffmpeg -i /var/www/html/Site_1/videos/87.mp4 -r 0.25 /var/www/html/Site_1/thumbnails/output_%03d.bmp



When paste that onto the terminal it runs just fine. When I place it in a php variable and run shell_exec(), nothing happens. Do you know why this is?
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Is there a way to define Models in Rails the way it is done in DjangoORM or FlaskSQLAlchemy?

Doing it thru migrations seems.... odd
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>>56122100
does PHP have write access to /var/www/html/Site_1/thumbnails/?

if you run a php script with
file_put_contents("/var/www/html/Site_1/thumbnails/test.txt", "test");

does the file get created?
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>>56122130
Yea it's getting denied. Fixed it. Thank you OMG!
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my first website is coming along, bois. Feels goood.
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