What does g use as an mp3? Pic related, my only good purchase

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>>56100141
Philips GoGear Viber.

The best battery life in any device I've ever used. Its earphones are simple but are great too. Haven't broken after years of usage.

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Still memedisk sansa. It works great, cant complain.

My LG V10 which I can guarantee sounds better than the crap posted in this thread so far.

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>>56100211
Good for you?

>>56100141
>good purchase
>from Apple.
nice meme

160GB iPod.

I want something bigger.

>>56100278
Tried upgrading to an iPod touch 4g but the screen managed to crack on its own somehow and ios6 made it a pain to use, so yes, I consider this a good purchase from Apple since it has good sound quality and has lasted this long.

Plus the scrolling wheel is still fun to use

2GB 2nd gen iPod Nano for now, soon a 5th gen iPod Classic with a 120GB SSD.

>>56100324
>Apple
>sound quality
nice meme

>>56100300
So upgrade the storage

>>56100357
Best option too imo, you can't really beat the build quality of those older iPod classics and they've got great sound quality, any other upgrade will just be over the top expensive

>>56100357
I'm considering it.

I'm given to understand there's at least one model of Sansa which can be made to handle high capacity microsd cards. Considering that too. Not sure which would end up being less expensive.

>>56100471
If you've already got the iPod I'd imagine that'd be cheaper. I can't imagine a chink SSD would run more than a Clip and a microSD card, and an SD card + adapter certainly won't run you more than a Clip and a microSD card

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Anyone here tried out these ruizu players?

>>56100141
>What does g use as an mp3?
>use as an mp3?
>an mp3?

I like the mp3 that was made using a song I enjoy as an audio source, then encoded in a way that reduces its filesize with minimal loss in quality.

As for a music player, I just use my phone.

>>56100587
I remember having very similar Mp4 players back in the day. They were ok, but that was in 2008.

They're nice unless you're exercising. I've been having the problem with mine where after I've been jogging for a while, I can't use the click wheel since my hands are too sweaty.

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>>56100141
Can anyone recommend the Fiio X1? I'm getting one next paycheck

>>56100219
you asked and he answered, why the tumblr tier response?

>>56101440
you clearly don't need a recommendation, you need validation

>>56100587
ruizu x2 is a /csg/ meme. good one.

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my phone supports .flac so why would i need one

>>56101472
I want to know if it's as good as it seems before I buy it in case anyone has experience with them. I've done my research and feel pretty confident but I haven't bought it yet.

>>56100141
spotify on iphone 5.

>>56101440
Own an X3. Sound and drive capabilities are great, but the UI fucking sucks and the screen is absolute garbage. You can't see anything under direct sunlight, and you will struggle to see the screen under the shade. Response times can be slow once you start filling up your memory card (I use a 64gb Kingston class 10 card) and it's normal for the UI sto stutter for a second before displaying artists or albums.
It also has no capabilities to play audiobooks or podcasts, but that might not be important to you.
Overall I like it, but I find it hard to recommend unless you need a dedicated music player (because it won't play anything else) and don't plan on using it under the sun or in bright conditions.

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I wish I still had iOS 6 on it. Fuck Apple and their no downgrades.

>>56100342
Nice job keeping the 2nd gen nano alive. Mine suddenly died years ago.

>>56100141
a fucking note 4.

>>56101500
>Falling for the .flac meme
Shiggy

>>56101756
This. I'm still waiting to hear a real difference between the two.

>>56101766
You need better ears m8
I can easily tell the difference between 320MP3 and FLAC using a pair of apple earbuds and a moto e

>as an mp3
Triggered

>>56101500
>>56101756
>Using FLAC for the quality
>Not for the ability to transcode to superior lossy formats like Opus without unnecessary losses

>>56101500
.flac
ayy lmao he doesn't know about people packing mp3s as flac

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>>56101783

>>56101639
>tfw mine came with IOS7
Fuck

>>56100198
This. Rock box too good

>>56100141
My Xiaomi smartphone.

Usually doing Opus rather than MP3 on CDs that I ripped.

My smartphone, because I don't want to carry around a separate device.

>>56100587
bump
can these little things sound nice? or are just like the rest of cheap chinese mp3?

>>56101920
/csg/ has long approved this, so just try it

> or are just like the rest of cheap chinese mp3?
How many of them have you had and how cheap were they?

Everything from like $10 has a high chance of sounding actually good.

Hell, there are $2 USB sound cards that are fine.

>>56101839
>>56101639
Why would you want to take a huge step backwards? iOS 7 is when iOS started getting decent

>>56101988
IOS never got decent.

It still can't really multitask for shit (on the OS - it's not multitasking if you need to write the program in a special way), and that was one of the biggest features everyone wanted from like Windows 95 and NT something back then.

>>56102028
I said started getting decent, I never said it fully made it there. It was utter shit before iOS 7 came out, then 7 came out and it was less shitty. Happier with that wording?

Anyone got a mp3 player with a remember playback position i listen to a lot of audiobooks and I am still using an ipod classic.

Zune HD and my old Galaxy S4

>>56102048
Ya, but in my opinion it's utter shit until it has multitasking.

Again, this is a feature that was almost universally adapted 20 years ago for everything but "single purpose" microcontrollers and the like, which smartphones clearly are not. And it's one of the most constantly used features ever.

IOS even regressed from fucking Symbian in that regard.

>>56101825
>ayy lmao he doesn't know about people packing mp3s as flac

You can just download .cue files and split them into .flac files yourself.

>>56102231
Multitasking on a mobile means power management, which is part of the reason every iOS phone stomps every android phone on battery life.

I can count the number of times I actually wanted to leave an app doing something in the background on one hand.

>>56101988
The music player is way fucking better than this fucking Apple Music shit.

iPhone 5s

>>56100198
Id have to agree. Simpler is better.

120 gb ipod classic

dreading the day it finally gives out

>>56102268
If you're jailbroken there are some tweaks that remove all the shit Apple introduced like the beats radio bullshit and leave you with a very sleek, functional and good looking music player.
I have a jailbroken iPod Touch 6 and it's by far the best MP3 player I have ever owned

>>56102285
i legitimately miss my zune 80gb. was a decent player. the battery expanded and blew it all out though

>>56102319
idk how mines still going strong, i've had it since 2009 and it still holds a decent charge

>>56102261
> Multitasking on a mobile means power management
No, it means processor usage because of course more apps are doing more things now.

If you force an user to only run one thing, yes, in total less work will get done by software than when the user can run as much software until they hit 100% CPU / RAM / ... load, at all times.

> which is part of the reason every iOS phone stomps every android phone on battery life
That your IOS doesn't allow you to do as much at the same time is, sure.

It's like a house that would probably also only consume less power in total if you could only power a SINGLE device. I guess you can't watch Youtube now, dad is taking a fax...

Also, this is reality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

Yes, it's a reality powered by better chipsets and slightly larger batteries, but most of these devices remain very comfortably portable anyhow.

> I can count the number of times I actually wanted to leave an app doing something in the background on one hand.
Oh really, how many run on your Windows / OSX machine right now as you are posting this - unless you're fully on a smartphone?

EVERYONE uses it all the time where it's available.

To go back to the house analogy, I don't really care that back in the day they were also happy to just have a light OR a water heating rod running. Yes, having one thing is very good - but in reality I now power 30+ devices at times.

>>56102314
I'm on iOS 9.3.2. There is no jailbreak.

>>56102390
Shit sux, should have staid on 9.0.3 since that was the last that had a 32bit jailbreak.

iphone 4

might just change to a sansa clip/+

>>56101462
not him but the V10 guy is being a dick about it.

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What music do you listen to on your rockboxed clip + and why is not not David Bowie?

>>56102261
> iOS phone stomps every android phone on battery life

>>56102377
>http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

> $150 with shipping /csg/ approved Xiaomi Redmi 3 phone has 107 hours battery life

> $700 or whatever regional price Apple iPhone 6s Plus has 85 hours battery life

Stomped indeed.

What is the best media player per price/storage/battery?

>>56102537
This >>56100587

Or your current smartphone if you were wise enough to get one with microSD slot(s).

'cause ultimately storage is very cheap on microSD, and so is a battery pack if you really need more than 20 or whatever hours of playback that most good modern smartphones can give.

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>128kbps mp3
>not using 128bit vinyl

STAY
TAYS
AYST
YSTA

PLEB
LEBP
EBPL
BPLE

>>56100300

>160 GB iPod

This

>>56102390

Yes this is. pangu for i dropped a few weeks ago
os 9.2-9.3.3

finally got ifile and itransmission running on my 6s.....life is good again.

really is pretty awesome when i put it next my ipod gen5 video that was 30gig spinning rust :)

>>56102666
64-bit devices only. iPods are 32-bit

>>56102677

>Running iOS9 on a 32 bit device

Niggaplease.jpg

The biggest question is:

Why do you even own an MP3 player in 2016?

>>56102770
because the audio coming out of my phone is garbage, space is limited compared to what the other devices on hand offer, and i'd rather save my phone's battery for other uses

Been using an old xperia t, only use the walkman nothing else installed its pretty nice also handy if im going somewhere i dont want to be taking my phone out can just throw in my sim

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>>56103227
This. Until phone batteries improve, I'm not draining my shit because of music when I have my J3 handy

>>56103367
> Until phone batteries improve
http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

Usually playback time for audio is fairly equal to the talk time (obviously depends on app and codec and how much you use the screen to operate the player and all that, but it's close enough).

So you can get ~32h on a $150 Chinese 5" smartphone. Which you also can recharge with a battery pack if needed - one that isn't necessarily much bigger than your current player.

Is that REALLY not enough?

>>56102770

Legit response: They are old and the music and playlists on them are like a very special time capsule filled with feels.

I have a 6s and am often rocking and ipod video 5g, Ipod touch 1g because they are frozen in time :)

>>56102770
The biggest question is why do you own a fucking shitty tracking device?

>>56101139
Autism

>>56101440
went from an iPod Classic to an X1. I'd say the UI on the iPod was better, but the X1 sounds great

Spotify on my S3. Hasn't broken yet, so not upgrading.

>>56103462
This. My iPod is filled with my high school music and I can't even hook it up and update the music because iTunes would wipe it.

It's like a time vault, or a time machine to the old me

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My phone, an Xperia Z3.
All the files on it are 256K Opus converted from FLAC.

>>56102248
He's talking about when people take .mp3 files and turn them into .flac just by transcoding them. You don't gain anything by converting a lossy format to a lossless format, the damage has already been done, faggot.

>>56100141
That.

>>56104058
I can get one (8GB) for 40 aud.

Worth it?

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Anyone have experience with the Xuelin?
its between this and the Fiio X1 right now.

>>56104840
Mine still works, I'd say yes. There may be better out there.

test

My phone?

>>56100141
This is the mp3 player thread I guess.

Am I better off getting this refurbished but cheaper sansa clip+, or the more expensive but brand new one?

Links to compare.

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Player-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01F97NZEG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Player-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B002MAPS6W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471327686&sr=8-2&keywords=sansa+clip+plus

I'm usually wary of used items/refurbished items unless they're books or the like. I don't like buying used electronics for the most part. Would it be a mostly safe buy to get the refurbished for cheaper?

>>56104959
Why not both?

>>56104999
Nigga I don't have that kind of money. I need one or the other, and cheaper preferred if it's not a negative/risky investment.

>>56102770
Because someone in the past said "do one thing and do it well"

>>56103920
Use ubuntu's music player or some windows/mac ipod management utility to extract all those files off your ipod.

V10 with hi-fi DAC & Flac

>>56103367
lol my phone is just a glorified ipod

>>56102108
Most any Cowon DAP. Even includes bookmarks so you can save a specific position as well.

>>56105029
why not
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VXMY262/ref=psdcmw_1264866011_t1_B00HCMZ4H8

>>56102770
Weighs less, takes up less space, don't get interrupted by email/text notifications, often better sound and battery life, cheaper to buy/replace if damaged or lost.

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This worked well for me for over 5years now.

>>56105299
( except the occasional SD change )

>>56105299
why that phone series specifically

>>56105354
- cheap
- small
- easy to root and install empty custom roms so you max on battery-life per-charge.

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What the fuck will I do once it breaks though.

>>56105518
fix it

Why do people use these things, what's wrong with using your phone?

>>56100141
2nd gen shuffle

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>>56105299
>>56105315

Except the outdated dac and piss poor analogue headphone amp. There is some black art happening with aliasing and digital filters in phones and daps these days. Also much better dc-dc converts and discrete performace

my iphone 4 sounded much better than my ipod 5g

my iphone 6 sounds much better than my iphone 4

went back to an old shuffle the other day for shits and giggles. low output volume sound like mush.

Audio has progressed alot.

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i usually just flac or ogg
no more mp3 or aac 4 me

>>56100141
My phone

>>56100141
Rockboxed iPod Classic 120GB and a Sansa Clip+, depending on the situation.

>>56107359
Haha

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>>56100175
>he uses the earphones that came with the player
Painfully plebeian

>>56100198
Bought one, 1 month later one part of the screen is always lit

so cheap i didnt even bother sending it back

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>>56100141
>mp3
>shiggydiggy

>>56103920
foobar2000 + ipod plugin

>>56107878
>not using a single device to do everything
Is this the 80's?

>>56108394
No, it's 2016.

Why do you ask? Are you suffering from anorexia? If you're missing the last 36 years of your memory, maybe 4chan isn't the place to be

>mp3 players

lol sold my Sanza Fuze for $20 and was lucky to get that.
Nobody uses that shit anymore.

Pandora and Google Play Music with LTE shits all over any standalone music playing device.

>>56108463
>paying for data to stream music you could have run locally for free without bandwidth interruptions or ads
you're the idiot here

>>56108519
Vast majority of people have mobile data. Your use case niche poorfag 3rd world shit.

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>>56108463
>paying for low quality compressed music
>not being able to listen to music when no connection

>>56108583
Google Play Music works without a connection.

Neither Pandora nor Google Play music are "low quality"

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>>56108595
>paying for 10+GB bandwidth per month to listen to high quality music

>>56102326
Mine died while I was getting out of the car at a gas station in 2012

It holds a special place on my wall now.

>>56108641
AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile all have free Pandora data. It isn't an issue.

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>>56108700
>living in a shit 3rd world country with no net neutrality
JUST

>>56108843
Oh I get it you can't even use Pandora lmao.

RockBox'd iPod Classic 120 GB.

I'm not a huge fan of RockBox, but it's much better than having to use iTunes.

>tfw can get used iPod Classics on pawn shops around here for cheap

thanks 3rd world

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I use this fucker for more than 2 years now. My uncle that worked in Philips back then gave it to me.

It's one durable and light motherfucker.

>>56105029
>>56104959
Avoid refurb'd Sansa Clip+ as the audio jack is notoriously weak and flimsy. You'll likely end up having to pry apart the refurbished item and have to solder or glue it.

>>56103493
Language

>>56108394
>using a jack of all trades master of none device

>>56108463
>needing Internet for something as trivial as audio playback
top fucking kek

160g ipod classic from 2012
still going strong

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7 years strong, somehow.

>>56111122
My bad for orientation; still getting used to new phone.

>>56100198
>>56101857

This. I love that I can insert another data card and use that.

>>56104859
B-bumpu

>>56100198
everyone i have gotten of those had a bad battery that died in under 3 months, or would just stop working no matter what i tried to do.

i loved them when they worked, but they just died too much.

>>56112315
tf
mine is 4 years old at this point.

>>56102169
>Zune HD
>hellodarknessmyoldfriend.mp3 plays

>>56112392
>J3
i had 7 different clip+'s, 2 were bought new, sandisk replaced them till i said fuck it give me a big sd card and we'll call it even.

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>>56112315
Hope you kept them since you can replace the battery really easily.

>>56112430
they'd shorted out, you could smell it.

>>56112497
Worth a go, new battery cost me $6

>>56102319
Battery also expanded/died on my zune 120 last summer. Had it since launch, used daily. Battery had severely degraded since then.
Bought a replacement battery, took the thing apart, changed it and it's good as new.

Be careful if you do tho, the aluminum casing is very easy to scratch when prying it open, mine looks kinda fucked, but it works wonder.

>>56112508
they were lost years ago.

one fried out the screen, another had half killed the screen and the the audio jack was loose as fuck, this was a brand new in package player, not used off of ebay shit.

I'm glad you guys got the ones that worked. it was so damn good when it did work. i could clip it up by my neck and use my short cabled AT earclips when out jogging.

>>56100141
2x Dell AXIM x51
3x Dell AXIM x50
phone
HP 6930p

Not using a dedicated device for listening to mp3 on the road anymore

>>56100141
I have one of these too, the 3.5mm jack doesnt work properly anymore so it only plays music through the left channel.
I now use a ipod touch I got from a classmate a few years ago, iOS feels a lot less practical

I wouldn't mind an MP3 player that has like, 64GB space or something and WiFi so that I can sync up to Google Music, save shit for offline use then just use that with lots of battery life.

>>56110674
I went ahead and just got the brand new.

Don't want to risk it.

I bought an ipod classic a few months before they discontinued them

It's cool but I don't really use it at all anymore, I'm thinking about selling it

>>56100141
smartphone

however since I assume this post is from the past, iPod duh!

>>56103473
kys, preferrably with that smartphone your lying ass has

>>56102770
Obviously to listen to music. What sort of retarded question is that?

>>56103920
this is more respectable than the plebs who argue "muh battery" "muh quality" "text notifications". Sorry, not sorry, but youre a fucking moron if youre telling me you need more than 20 hours of CONTINUOUS music playback, with 0 access to an outlet (plus there are these magic things called portable chargers which are cheaper than your audio players).

>>56105088
that guy is either a moron or born well before the information age

>>56105246
>weighs less
kek

>takes up less space
kek

>don't get interrupted by email/text notification
oh noes! your music got lowered a bit for 2 seconds

>often better sound and battery life
trivial differences

>cheaper to buy/replace if damaged or lost
take care of your devices?

>>56108006
what I expect from someone who purchases an audio player

>>56110982
>doing something logical and efficient

>>56111000
dubbed trips tell no lies

>>56104959
I've got two sansa clips from over the year - both have damaged screens. Would it be plausible to swap parts with a refurb?

Also to answer "why mp3 player when you have smartphone?", if you run/jog, an mp3 player, especially one you can clip somewhere is much more manageable.

>>56113944
i cant tell if youre trolling or just the biggest idiot on 4chan

if troll: GJ mate!
if sincere: do not procreate, seek professional sterilization ASAP

>>56114146
>efficient
>using a smartphone for everything
Top fucking kek

>>56114197
Please do go on as to why I'm an idiot.

>>56114201
Efficient: performing or functioning in the best possible manner with the least waste of time and effort

I'm confused by your stupidity anon, and though I am curious what about that is funny, I'm also scared that your reply might kill brain cells trying to comprehend it

>>56114245
because if you really want to know why hes asking that, its obvious that what hes alluding to is why in 2016 do you have a separate device for listening to music.

Your query makes it seem like hes saying "Hai gais what ees an mp3 player do?"

>>56114249
Which is exactly why smartphones aren't efficient.
>why is this funny
Because you think smartphones are efficient.
>playing music drains phone's battery
>using phone as a phone drains music player's battery
>have to fumble with gay ass touchscreen while a PMP actually has dedicated buttons for the task
>etc.

>>56114271
I was clearly being a smartass. If you were so retarded you couldn't figure that out suggest you take your own advice and seek sterilization.

>>56114290
Oh I see, you think walking around with a separate device for everything you do is efficient. Now your idiocy is at least understandable. Thanks anon

>>56114323
Dedicated devices are superior. Using my phone as an MP3 player is as silly as using an MP3 player to call someone
>lol ur an idiot xDDD
Says the guy that thinks using a jack of all trades master of none device is the way to go.

>>56114346
>Dedicated device > jack of all trades
Hey you're right!

>Walking around with an mp3 player, video player, cell phone, web browser, camera, gps
Hey, youre an idiot!

>>56100141
>an mp3
holy fuck you're retarded.

>>56114431
I never said to use every dedicated device that you possibly could. Simply that an MP3 player is so much better than a smartphone at its task that it warrants carrying one.

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This
For some reason Motorola decided to put their best DAC in their cheapest phone, surprised audiophiles didnt notice

>>56114439
What's the issue?

>>56114449
dont fucking try to back out now. You said using your phone as an mp3 player is not efficient, which you are clearly and ridiculously fucking wrong.

>>56114476
mp3 is a codec. please don't tell me that you're not OP and there's two of you this retarded.

4th gen iPod classic. I ordered a new battery and SSD for mine since the stock HDD is painfully slow with long song gaps.

>>56114492
I'm not trying to back out of shit, bitch. It's not efficient.

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I had what was basically the same thing before it, but I fucking lost it. I can't remember if it was slightly better or not.

>>56100211
Enjoy your boot loop

>>56114499
I'm not OP and yes MP3 is a codec. Devices made for playing said codec along with various others are commonly referred to as MP3 players.

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>>56100175
>The best battery life in any device I've ever used.
seconding that.

I still use a gogear spark from 2008/2009
Great battery life,sound quality is superb,output power is a low a with a lot of philips mp3 players.

It even got a firmware update allowing it to playback .ape files,like w00t..

Also has an oled display.

>>56100141
i use the same after having my 3rd since its release
this is probably the last good thing apple build

>>56100211
>My LG V10
>Just posted under a sansa clip+
>better SQ

Mega kex

>>56114053
>not an argument
>not an argument
>not an argument
>not an argument
Do you post just to see yourself post or are you simply incapable of conducting a substantive discussion?

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iPod Touch 5th Generation 32GB. It's a bit slow with iOS 9 on it but it works great for music.

>>56114519
using your smartphone as your mp3 player is efficient dude. why are you arguing against this lol. Your smartphone may not play music as well as w/e retarded device you people wasted money on, but the difference is negligible enough that it begs the question, why bother?

I'm with the other guy, smartphone as mp3 player = efficiency

>>56114588
Do you post a bunch of random bullshit you believe without evidence at all, or do you actually think the garbage you spew is true?

>>56114290
>implying mp3 players don't consume battery
Are you an idiot? It's much better having a single device to do everything than having to carry a backpack full of devices for each individual task.

>>56114644
No it's fucking not
>inefficient touchscreen controls
>listening to music drains phone's battery, using phone drains PMP's battery
>smartphone can't last nearly as long

>>56114675
>implying I ever implied that
What I'm saying is that listening to music doesn't drain my phone's battery, and using my phone doesn't reduce the number of songs I can listen to, because the devices are entirely independent of each other. Not to mention PMPs aren't plagued with the cancer that is the touchscreen.

>but the difference is negligible enough
Teehee

Beyond that, I like not sappin' my phone battery. Only have to bother charging it every couple of days and my MP3 has a 70 hour battery.

I'm also not sure where this "carry a million different devices for each task" meme comes from. You've got a small dedicated music device and then a smartphone for everything else.

>>56100300
sansa clip with sd card (180 for me atm)
for some reason could not find 256 sd cards, only 200 (i.e. 180GiB) and 500 (stupidly expensive)

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>>56114540
>MP3 players

>>56114797
How the fuck am I moving goalposts?

>>56114697
you implied it in your shitpost about how smartphones arent more efficient for listening to music than PMPs

>>56114807
really? You really can't see how?

>>56114815
No I didn't.

>>56114727
while I get that argument more than the other pleb ones being used in this thread, I really dont see how its necessary to only have to charge your phone every couple of days. So much so that you would walk around with an extra device you had to buy just to accomplish not having to charge your phone more often

iPod Classic 160GB

I love everything about it: the storage, clickwheel interface, the battery. It is a bit bulky but it's not really a problem for me. One of the best tech purchases of my life. I use it daily and the battery lasts easily for a couple of weeks.

>>56114697
Phones don't get a much shorter battery life unless you have a terrible battery. It's much more convenient to have a multitasking device. Even if you have a shit battery all you need is to kill background tasks, get a power bank or enable airplane mode if you're just going to listen to music and do nothing else. There's no reason to use an external music player any more, there hasn't been in a very long time but hipsters keep using them.

Is there any mp3 player that also counts steps and stuff like that? Maybe a good timer to run in the background? I can't have a five inch phone in my pocket and the smartwatch is too expensive.

>>56114935
>Phones don't get a much shorter battery life unless you have a terrible battery
The only way you can get a smartphone to last close to a week is to not use it.
>It's much more convenient to have a multitasking device
Not at all
>get a power bank
So carrying a power bank along with your phone is acceptable but carrying a PMP isn't? kek
>or enable airplane mode
Holy fucking shit, do you realize how retarded you are?
>There's no reason to use an external music player any more
That is absolutely false. You just think that since you're okay with your phone that nobody should be allowed to have differing preferences. Eat a dick, you fucking twat.

>>56114985
>The only way you can get a smartphone to last close to a week is to not use it.
Well duh, you use your phone a lot because it can do so much

>It's much more convenient to have a multitasking device
doesnt have a good retort because entire argument is predicated on bullshit

>So carrying a power bank along with your phone is acceptable but carrying a PMP isn't? kek
this only applies IF you are retarded and buy a phone with a shit battery that cant be replace (pretty much everything apple makes), not to mention that same power bank can be used to charge multiple devices

>That is absolutely false
Actually its not false at all. there is no NEED to have a PMP because portable music is readily available through a device that most people already have. Soooooo yea.

>>56115103
>Well duh, you use your phone a lot because it can do so much
Which is why it's retarded to say a phone's battery is close to a PMP's.
>doesnt have a good retort because entire argument is predicated on bullshit
You still have the phone when you have a PMP, dumbass. That multitasking device is still there, you're just using something better for playing music.
>this only applies IF you are retarded and buy a phone with a shit battery that cant be replace (pretty much everything apple makes)
>not to mention that same power bank can be used to charge multiple devices
Why would you have multiple devices, anon? Just use your smartphone for everything like you keep telling me. Or are you a hypocrite?
>Actually its not false at all
It is 100% false.
>there is no NEED to have a PMP because portable music is readily available through a device that most people already have.
That device people already have is inferior. Sure a phone can play music, but that doesn't mean it's as good at it as a PMP is.

>>56115103
Also, question for you anon. Why is it so triggering when you see people using superior dedicated devices? It doesn't bother me at all that you hate yourself enough to use your phone.

>>56114985
>The only way you can get a smartphone to last close to a week is to not use it.
What's your point here?
>Not at all
Yes it is, idiot.
>So carrying a power bank along with your phone is acceptable but carrying a PMP isn't? kek
Yes, because you're bitching about phones not lasting long enough and you have to bring 10 different devices with you. A phone is much more important than an mp3 player, not only is it able to be an mp3 player but it also does anything else you need. So keeping it charged is important.
>Holy fucking shit, do you realize how retarded you are?
And yet you appear to be another iFag who doesn't realise how amazing phones actually are because yours is too limited.
>That is absolutely false. Eat a dick
Someone's mad because he's too retarded to use his phone as anything he wants and fell for the PMP meme. You can even download music directly on the go from your phone.
You literally have no arguments.

>>56114850
That'd be dumb, yeah, but it's not the only reason to me either. I thought quality sound was a myth, but one day I listened to the same song i'd heard on my own MP3 on his phone and I think it's just one of those things you don't notice until you "downgrade."

That being said, i'm not autistic enough to go out and buy a $500 MP3 player and the super expensive headphones to get the best out of them.

There's just no real downside to having one.They aren't bulky and take up very little space.

>>56115186
>you have to bring 10 different devices with you.
There's that "a million different devices" thing again...

>>56115175
at first it was just fun to poke at these tards. but then a few (or maybe one?) went full retard in his argument and now its just fun messing with him

tl;dr I enjoy arguing with idiots at work. makes time fly

>>56115258
>I was just pretending

>>56115186
>What's your point here?
That a phone doesn't even come close to lasting as long.
>Yes it is, idiot.
No it's not, dipshit.
>Yes, because you're bitching about phones not lasting long enough and you have to bring 10 different devices with you
Two devices, you fucking moron. Just as many as a phone and a power bank.
>A phone is much more important than an mp3 player, not only is it able to be an mp3 player but it also does anything else you need
No fucking shit, which is why you carry one in addition to the MP3 player you carry due to its superiority to the phone.
>So keeping it charged is important.
All the more reason to offload music playback to a dedicated device.
>And yet you appear to be another iFag who doesn't realise how amazing phones actually are because yours is too limited.
I've never had an iPhone. Nice assumptions, moron.
>Someone's mad because he's too retarded to use his phone as anything he wants and fell for the PMP meme
Not in the slightest. I'm mad because autists like you can't understand why it's not a meme.
>You can even download music directly on the go from your phone.
Why would I care when I've got every song I'd want to listen to and more on my PMP?
>You literally have no arguments.
I have a ton, you just shrug them off because you literally have no arguments.

>>56115258
Oh I see, you're just a shitty troll. Makes much more sense.

>>56115283
>he listens to music for more than 8 hours straight
Your only argument is
>muh battery can't last

>>56114657
>Do you post a bunch of random bullshit
It is neither random no bullshit. Unless you honestly believe "kek" is a valid argument? If so, you are retarded. If not, you are just shitposting. Either way you prove you have nothing of value to add to the discussion.

>>56115355
Ur an idiot because kek

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>>56115283
lol youre arguing with 2 different people mate.

>>56115350
>>he listens to music for more than 8 hours straight
>implying that's a bad thing

>Your only argument
Better battery life, interface designed for the task, and higher storage capacity is not one argument.
>>56115386
No fucking shit.

>>56115355
when an argument is so stupid it literally causes me to laugh, that is what i post. congratulations anon, you managed to make me do it twice in one reply! Gold star to you!

I'm looking into getting a 120 or 160 gb ipod classic because my iPod touch is out of storage and I no longer really need it for porn since I have a nexus 6

nano 5g for me, hacked to work with any media player in Linux. Feels great, click wheel is so comfy.

>>56115411
>when an argument is so stupid
>I cannot argue the point so I'll call it stupid
Usually when people post they don't try to make themselves look even more pathetic than they already did.

>>56114985
Battery life is literally the only advantage a PMP has over a halfway decent smartphone.

If you have a cellphone that you have to charge once every 1-2 days anyway, there's no reason to carry a second device that has longer battery life.

That's literally like saying that a moped is the superior form of transportation because it has better fuel efficiency than most cars.

Smartphones can different playback software, can be easily updated to support any new file formats, can use streaming services like Spotify, have support for Bluetooth headphones (if that's your thing), can download album art etc from the internet on the fly, the list goes on and if you use your phone to do this, you have one less thing to carry about with you during the day.

I'm not even the anon you were arguing with, you now have two anons, at least, telling you that you're autistic. You're allowed to like a PMP, but the objective truth is that using your phone to play music is objectively superior to other options. You're the weirdo idiot, not everyone else. Embrace it.

>>56101139
>being an ass but not even posting a picture of your ass

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>>56115386
>[editing]

Well, I think it's time to skedaddle on out of this thread. It's not going anywhere anymore. It's just a lot of pic related between three or four dudes arguing about phones.

Good luck.

>>56115402
>being an autist isn't a bad thing
>better interface is so objective
>higher storage capacity than my piece of shit phone with no mSD slot, because I need my 200GB+ of music
>completely ignores all the benefits of having a phone as an omni-tool
Also this>>56115442

>>56115402
if youre outside your house, what the fuck are you doing that you are listening to music for 8 hours straight? its not implying its a bad thing, its pointing out how ridiculous that argument, while true, is in the real fucking world

>>56115355
"kek" is a valid argument, you forget you're on 4chan.

>>56115503
Wait, only 8 hours? Surely that's not the limitation of a phone.

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>>56115534
>"kek" is a valid argument, you forget you're on 4chan.
>When you're in McDonald's french fries are a valid argument.
Do you have more teeth than brain cells?

>>56104859
get the Fiio

>>56115442
>Battery life is literally the only advantage a PMP has over a halfway decent smartphone.
Literally see >>56115402
>Better battery life, interface designed for the task, and higher storage capacity
>If you have a cellphone that you have to charge once every 1-2 days anyway, there's no reason to carry a second device that has longer battery life.
What if I go 1-2 days without the ability to charge my phone?
>That's literally like saying that a moped is the superior form of transportation because it has better fuel efficiency than most cars.
It's literally not.
>Smartphones can different playback software
So can PMPs
>can be easily updated to support any new file formats
So can PMPs
>can use streaming services like Spotify
Rather useless when your PMP has every song you'd listen to and more
>have support for Bluetooth headphones
So can PMPs
>can download album art etc from the internet on the fly
If you care about album artwork that won't be an issue by the time the music's on your PMP
>the list goes on
The list of easily refutable points goes on? That's not a good thing for your argument, anon.
>but the objective truth is that using your phone to play music is objectively superior to other options.
Nope

>>56115500
>>better interface is so objective
You cannot deny that play/previous/next are superior to a phone's touchscreen.
>>higher storage capacity than my piece of shit phone with no mSD slot, because I need my 200GB+ of music
Even counting phones with microSD card slots PMPs still win.
>>completely ignores all the benefits of having a phone as an omni-tool
You can still have your phone as an omni tool, you're just using something better as a PMP. It's not like I'm telling you to replace your phone with a PMP, I'm saying it's better to use both.

>>56115503
>if youre outside your house, what the fuck are you doing that you are listening to music for 8 hours straight?
Being outside my house.

>>56115554
Jesus, dude. He was 'avin a giggle. That post wasn't even hostile. I cracked a smile; just take it down a notch.

I also have no idea what: >When you're in McDonald's french fries are a valid argument.
means.

>>56115590
>He was 'avin a giggle.
No shit? I wonder why I posted a "LOL I troll U" image. . .

>I also have no idea what: >When you're in McDonald's french fries are a valid argument.
means.
Demonstrating how poor humor that "joke" is.

>>56115434
>implying i conduct myself according to the preferences of people, let alone strangers on 4chan

wow are you really that fucking butthurt? ok retard, ill break my usual just for u?

>weighs less
firstly, youre comparing a ridiculously wide assortment of devices. I guarantee you there are some PMPs heavier than phones and vice versa. secondly, IF theres a difference, its ridiculously small, like several ounces. youre not going to feel the fucking difference in your pocket or fanny pack, whatever you faggets are doing these days.

>takes up less space
same fucking argument, difference is negligible. Also, quite ironic that one of your arguments for PMPs is that they take up less space. You know what takes up less space? not having a secondary device that does the SAME EXACT FUCKING SHIT as the device you most definitely because it is practically essential to modern life

>>56115634
>it is practically essential to modern life
Not him, but you're joking right? I only use my phone as a phone. Being a super duper smartphone doesn't seem like something essential.

>>56115537
meh, for arguments sake i just regurgitated the amount of time he used. I have no idea, nor care as it is irrelevant, how long phones and PMPs last while continuously playing music.

>>56115634
>I guarantee you there are some PMPs heavier than phones and vice versa.
There are also some PMPs that are more expensive than flip phones. But there is no phone capable of music playback that gets as small and light as a Sansa clip or Cowon M2.

>difference is negligible
Only if you specifically buy the biggest heaviest DAP you could. Again, you can not find any music capable phone that is going to be as small and light as a DAP.

>>56115667
I hike a lot and those last 6+ hours, so that'd be pretty important to me.

But for the average dude, yeah, I don't think battery life would be as big a problem if it was over 5 or 6 hours except in cases like long as fuck flights.

>>56115661
Dude, do you read? Thats the point. Phones are practically essential, everyone has one. there are fucking 6 year olds running around with smartphones because the technology is so cheap. So the argument he was making is why would you go and buy something that doesnt the same exact thing as something you already own because of its importance.

>>56115579
Compile a list of PMPs that have at least five (5) different pieces of playback software, that have expandable storage, that have received updates to enable playback of new filetypes, that support Bluetooth headphones, and cost less than $150 USD.

by the way
>What if I go 1-2 days without the ability to charge my phone?
Do you live in a third world country? Are you actually saying that a PMP is better if you live somewhere that doesn't have running fucking water? Or are you saying that you're too retarded to find a charger? The one time my phone has been about to die after I forgot to charge it, I asked a stranger to borrow their charger... problem solved.

Or maybe your life is so abysmally depressing that you value the ability to listen to music above the ability to communicate with people. Or maybe you're trolling. Either way, it's clear that your opinion is completely worthless. Goodbye.

>>56108579
mobile data is exactly what i'm talking about.

>>56115732
>Compile a list
The only part of your criteria that'd be difficult to meet is 5 different playback softwares. Although why would you need more choices than stock firmware and Rockbox?
>Do you live in a third world country? Are you actually saying that a PMP is better if you live somewhere that doesn't have running fucking water? Or are you saying that you're too retarded to find a charger? The one time my phone has been about to die after I forgot to charge it, I asked a stranger to borrow their charger... problem solved.
It has nothing to do with poverty or anything of the sort. Think camping, partying, etc.

>>56115716
I totally understand that. And several years ago, that argument made more sense. But phones last so long now that the point is moot. The only argument that holds any substantial merit in this entire thread is ironically the one being used the least, and thats the one about audio quality. Size/battery life/storage space/interface all that shit these idiots are arguing about are all irrelevant/easily countered. But the guy who would say " I use a PMP because im an audiophile and when I listen to music I want to hear it at its best" would get 0 objections from anyone who isnt arguing like a shitlord

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Back then and even now the Ipod Video 5G is still the best PMP.

Install Rockbox on it
Install a iFlash-DUAL with 2X256GB SD cards for a total of 512GB.
Enjoy more than 15 Hours of continuous music playback.


Anything breaks? bad battery? screen? headphone jack?

Just replace that shit with a $10 part, no soldering required.

>>56115870
sorry anon you lost credibility when you started with "the iPod"

>>56115913
lol xDDD Applel sux amirite?

Fuck off.

>>56115913
Sure thing buddy.

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>>56115913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLoyj9EII2U FOR (You)

>>56100141
>my only good purchase from Apple.
Agree, I don't use it almost, but I agree on it is the last good iPod.

>>56115919
>>56115956
>>56115993
b-but Apple is great!

Fucking idiots lol

>>56116165
???

>>56116165
>Apple is inherently shit
Spotted the 12 year old.

My phone because I don't have autism

>>56116182
>spotted the Applefag

If I was 12, I would agree that Apple is shit idiot. Apple hasnt been good since they invented iPods

>>56116224
>I would agree that Apple is shit
Is that not exactly what you're doing? >>56116165

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>>56100141
>needing a screen
>feeling the need to change your music every 10 minutes like a add child
>needing more than 15 hours of music on you

>>56116294
Good luck looking for an album on that shit

>>56116294
>not carrying every song you could possibly want on you

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>>56100141
Anons, what's the best mp3 player for about <$100. One I can just hook up to my car and play music rather than using my phone. I'd rather not have to load my phone up with music or spotify stream. Rather have a sep device

Been looking at the fii0 X1, but I'm not sure if I can plug it into my car.

>>56103367
>J3

J3 reporting

>>56116386
iPod Classic with SSD mod

>>56116317
>concerned with what specific song he's listening to rather than the task at hand
>>56116352
>wanting to carry every song you could possibly want on you
>carrying your entire collection on you when you only listen to the same playlists
>not changing your playlists every couple of weeks
>being this gluttonous

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>>56101783

while i really dislike the use of 'mp3' when you speak of a DAP, partly because MP3 is a licensed and proprietary format, as well as for its outdated and lossy encoding, to answer OPs question:

I use a FiiO X7 with a 200GB micro SD card, carrying 5508 songs, 140.7GB, with a total length of 16 days, 9 hours, 25 minutes, and 15 seconds of music in my pocket.

One may argue that you don't need this much music and you don't need FLAC, but i see no reason to use something else, or carry less, when disc space is quite cheap nowadays.

>>56116426
>wanting to carry every song you could possibly want on you
Why would I willingly and unnecessarily restrict which songs I can listen to? No matter what it is, if I feel like listening to a song, I can whip out my iPod and play it. Why would I force myself into such a situation where I'd want to listen to a song and couldn't because I decided that even though I could carry it and that there's absolutely no con to doing so it's just unnecessary?
>>carrying your entire collection on you when you only listen to the same playlists
I don't listen to any playlists.
>not changing your playlists every couple of weeks
See above
>being this gluttonous
What in the fuck are you on about?

>>56116467
Perhaps you should reconsider how you listen to music. How much thought/time do you put into navigating to specific artists/albums/songs? Would it not be easier to simply choose a playlist and passively consume the music you want?

>>56116294
iPod shuffle is the patrician's digital music delivery device

>>56116494
all my music is ordered per artist folder, with subfolder being the year first, album title next. herein are the tracks all ordered by discnumber-tracknumber.

I spend very little time finding the album i want to listen to, and i barely ever listen to tracks on their own.

the music that i want to consume is that 5508 songs.

>>56116683
Neat?

>>56116683
meant for
>>56116559

>>56116494
I suppose we have different philosophies then. My opinion is that you waste too much time and thought changing your music queue, navigating your entire collection on a handheld device, and keeping your eyes away from the road.

Your music should be supplementary to your task at hand. Stopping to change the flow of the music is a distraction. Simply build playlists or use pandora.

>>56116740
>My opinion is that you waste too much time and thought changing your music queue
I just shuffle everything unless there's something specific I want to listen to
>navigating your entire collection on a handheld device
Pretty easy using the clickwheel
>and keeping your eyes away from the road
I just shuffle everything

>>56100141
The ipod nano was likely the last good product from apple in all honesty.

>>56116852
I had an 8gb 3g nano that lasted me 9 years until a month ago when I accidentally plugged it into 2.5amp tablet charger and fried it. Great mp3 player.

>>56116386
Ruizu x02

>>56101440
I got the xduoo x2. It's much lighter and sounds just as good. If you don't mind no album covers it's a 50 dollar bargain. It supports most audio formats too. https://www.amazon.com/Andoer-Digital-Professional-Supports-Formats/dp/B00ZP6D1NM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471392349&sr=8-1&keywords=xduoo+x2

>>56117399
>microsd (up to 32gb)
Into the trash it goes.

>>56117583
Dude, what?

>>56118007
Page says it only supports up to 32GB microSD cards, which means that the PMP is garbage.

>>56118018
>needing more than 32GB music on you
You're onion is garbage

>>56118033
>lol you don't need it anyway
Eat a dick, you piece of fucking shit.

>>56118007
Considering that you can get a 64gb microsd for less than $20 and many (if not most) people's audio library is larger than 64gbs this limitation is a deal breaker.

Should I expect you to shit post in response driven by some irrational post purchase rationalization?

>>56118080
>>56118018

>>56118918
That was his point you dumbass

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LG V10 because it's a good phone and I didn't fall for the DAP meme

>>56118033
Just because you listen to the same 5 albums in repeat doesn't mean everyone else does. Nice dubs though.

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>>56118983
>has an amp as powerful as a s5

>>56100141
sansa zen

>>56100198
if only the audio jack was not a gigantic pile of shit that breaks with the wrong look

>>56119020
>listens to music so loud you can't distinguish the crash from the high hat

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>>56119175
>weak amps are good

>>56119237
I'm just saying eventually it's just over kill and buying an entire different device to carry around just do you can get your music uncomfortably loud is a waste.

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I've had this same 160gb classic since 2007. Still works great and I'm convinced it's nearly indestructible.

My old as fuck Sansa e280. The click wheel is so worn out that a stiff breeze makes it go apeshit, but when she behaves, it's eargasm time.

>>56115812
PMP quality is also a crapshoot.
The top players have performance that far exceed any phone, but there are many that don't work as well. Some of these subpar devices are popular models.

>>56119020
It can have plenty more voltage depending on the load. The V10 has a simple load sensor.

>>56115812
>Size
As if any music capable phone can get as small or light as most DAPs. The only way it gets countered is by picking out the $1k+ DAPs which are larger and weigh more but also a lot better sounding/capable.

>>56100198
I wanted a Clip V2 to back up my still operational Clip, but they were discontinued. I ended buying two Clip+.

>>56103958
I'm rocking a Z5 myself, it's easily the best sounding phone I've ever had.

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>>56101783
here's your (you)

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>>56102285
ayy. got both an 80gb and a 16gb mini

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>>56119008
>5 albums
>32GB

My phone because I am not a faggot

>>56102770
honest answer: so I can stick it on shuffle and just change the song without taking it out of my pocket should the need arise. phones don't have physical buttons anymore.

>>56114534
That's the LG G4 not the V10.
>>56114566
http://popcornhour.hu/media/news/a-500_pro/es9018k2m.pdf

>>56100141
My OnePlus One. I don't have any audio equipment that'd make it worth spending money on a dedicated player.

MP3 player retards should be gassed

>>56121975
This

>>56121975
>>56121985
>1 minute apart

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>>56121995
Why are you so mad

>>56121985
>>56121995
>1 minute apart

>>56122012
Invalid until both (you)s are shown.

>>56121926
>phones don't have physical buttons anymore.
my biggest reason as well.

>>56122012
Is this a meme?

>>56121985
>>56121975
asdf

>>56102169
Fucking zune, love mine but I can't get the artist info to sync correctly with gmtp

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>>56122097

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Too afraid to install rockbox on it
Also have a 6th gen iPod Nano free from an Apple recall, comes in handy sometimes.

>>56115801
>camping, partying
>using a PMP while doing social activities
>not bringing a power bank on a camping trip
I seriously even doubt you camp or party. You're just spilling your autism over here.

>>56122201
but rockbox is vastly superior.

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despite the dent on the display and a shitty 10 year old battery this is a great music/podcast/audiobook player

>>56100300
You can get adapters to jam like 8 mSDs instead of an HDD in one of those.

>>56101857
Rocbox is awesome, is there anything modern that can run it?

>>56105159
This was me until my Optimus Black finally ate it. Rockbox is legit good.

>>56107192
What's the cheapest player that supports vorbis and shit? >>56117200?

>>56121926
I like this for cycling. Phone goes somewhere safer.

>>56123036
Antennaepod is really nice for pod casts. Automates everything for me.