>"touchbar" on new MacBook Pros Who the fuck thought

>>56059522
Martin Hajek, apparently.

>>56059522
The Lenovo touchbar was a train wreck, will be interesting to see if Applel does a better job

>>56059522
>Using a macbook
>Using a calendar system that records and sends data to Apple
>that fucking unchanged dock
>Using your real pic for messenger
>Using Spotify
Yup, total pleb

all me

Am I the only one who thinks this is great?

Now that the only decent Apple product is getting ruined, this will only cement the idea that Apple products are for normie casuals.

>macbook "pro"

>>56059585
Anyone who buys a 15-inch macbook pro these days has to be a normie casual - how can anyone pay that much for a laptop with a 2.2ghz processor and Intel iris shit.

>>56059522
Looks cool but not very useful. I'm not sure what problem it's trying to solve.
>>56059579
You could have just said >using imessage. I don't know why anyone would lock themselves to an OS-specific messenger.

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>>56059522
This was absolutely terrible to use, inb4 applel now gets all the praise for how innovative and revolutionary that is

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I hate Apple but this isn't so bad, if it works like a normal touchscreen and is fully customizable.

>>56059615
2bh it's still one of the only 15" with real quad core and decent build quality

only comparable with XPS 15 (which has shit keyboard and is even more expensive) and Thinkpad P50 (which is decent but too thick)

>>56059645
Yeah but giving up your function keys for this? fuck that

>>56059647
Really? Looking for a new laptop at and was looking at MSI and Asus / ROG, but I don't know how bad their build quality is. (It's hard to find a beefy laptop without ending up with a gamer laptop these days.)

>>56059618
>OS-specific messenger
Um no, it can be used cross-platform on macOS AND iOS (both iPhone and iPad).

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>>56059658
Wait wtf I didn't even notice the F keys were gone, that's fucking retarded.

GOOD JOB APPLE DESIGN FAILURE AFTER DESIGN FAILURE.

>>56059670
nice bait

>>56059522
Is this confirmed or just a speculation?

>>56059645
>>56059658
The dimmer looks as if there's only two options whereas any other laptop gives the user complete control of how bright or dim they want the screen.

Macfags can't touch type, so why not? They already have the worst keyboards.

>>56059579
Can I get a source on the calendar claim?

>>56059696
No idea what you're referring to because on the mockup there isn't even a screen dimmer and on regular MBPs (sold today) there are like 20 dim levels

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>it's a /g/ wrongly predicts an apple failure again episode

>56059630
Apple owns the OS and can fully integrate the bar with it, unlike Lenovo.

>>56059714
Probably an autistic way of saying "it saves your calendar in iCloud (if you enable the respective option) so you can have it sync between your computer and your phone automatically"

>>56059522
Given that applel controls the os, they can build in more functionality than Lenovo, who had to rely on Microshaft.

That being said, It's not going to be a jout to lose that f-key row.

Further, I find the idea of the butterfly revolting.

So glad I upgraded to the mid-2015 a couple months ago. Maybe they'll come to their senses or improve this by the next time I need to upgrade. If not, there are other manufacturers.

Shame, really, my experience with apple devices has been really good.

>>56059728
I sincerely hope they will keep selling the 2015 models if the redesign really turns out to be this (or it's just a bullshit rumor like so many already)

HURR DURR LE HHKB HAXXXOR 64,99% KEYBOARD /G/ LOOK AT MY L33T KEYBOARD
@
WHERE ARE MY F-KEYS ON A LAPTOP RRRRREEEE

why u so pathetic, niggers?

>>56059668
The ROG laptops are good, two of my friends have them and they haven't had issues. Keyboards are nice too.

>>56059728
jout=joy, apologies

>>56059689
That's a fan-made speculation, see >>56059630
and >>56059643 for a more realistic idea of what it will be.

>>56059668
>MSI and Asus / ROG
I'm not all about looks, but these laptops simply look pathetic

It would be physically embarassing for me to take something like this out in public as opposed to a thinkpad, macbook or Dell

but I guess ymmv

>>56059749
Learn to speak english or go back to africa, chimp.

>>56059728
Same here. Really liked OS X and the MacBooks I had so far, but it looks like they are slowly fucking up both. Have to look for other manufacturers and Linux then.

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>>56059716
It looks like a slider. I don't there's an in between option.

>>56059749
>@
Go back, Ivan

Screencaping this whole thread. Will be fun to see the reactions when the bar becomes standard in all laptops.

>>56059774
Yes, Linux is much better than OS X as everybody knows! Have fun with it ;)

>>56059630
I actually had one of those for a while - what a godawful satanic abomination that was.
Luckily it was a work laptop so I didn't pay a dime for that piece of crap.

>>56059777
Pretty sure that's a volume slider for Spotify and Dim Sum is a chink artist

>>56059777
1. that's a volume slider
2. how do you get the idea that there are only 2 options? looks like every shitty touch screen slider ever (with lots of positions in between)

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>>56059768
There are some hilarious ones, but plenty of them are unremarkable, appearance-wise.

>>56059777
It's not a slider it's a song progress bar you flaming retards.
If it would have e-ink it could be pretty rad methinks.

>>56059789
>Yes, Linux is much better than OS X as everybody knows! Have fun with it ;)
That's really not what I want to say, obviously. I am still using OS X, but the way it slowly goes to shit is worrisome. My MacBook is just a year old, so I will keep using it for at least another three years. Let's see how OS X and macs look after that time, but it sure doesn't look good.

>>56059658
>function keys
>on a laptop

Why tho?

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>>56059803
>>56059818
>>56059829
olol sorry I am mac illiterate

>>56059837
Still far better than Linux.

>>56059900
>I don't know a thing
>but we're talking about macs so you're a faggot for knowing it
I guess you're right

>>56059900
>can't read
>takes words out of context
>doesn't have common sense

>hurr durr it's Mac shit so I can't comprehend it

so apple designs its hardware for plebs who look at their keyboard all the time?

This could be very cool, depending on what developers do with it.
Why not put this panel above existing function keys though? I use them a lot on my MBP as they're very convenient.

>>56060017
Yes

Chicklet keyboards and flat keycaps are everything that you shouldn't do if you want to type efficiently. Also fucking low travel so it can fit in an enveloppe (?!?!?).

>>56059522
Hold the fucking phone.
If this allowed me to control my music player without actually opening it on my screen, then it's fucking 10/10

>>56060091
what are keyboard shortcuts

>>56060113
One more useless key combination that I have to memorize, which can conflict with other software using the same shortcut.
At least last time I checked.

>>56059974
You literally don't know you retard. Stop being so fucking defensive.

>>56060126
yes looking at the keyboard is better
stay pleb macfag

>>56060126
macbooks and other laptops already have function keys, for play, skip, volume, etc.

>>56060144
>waaaaah I can't move my eyes a milimeter down because I have to keep looking AT. THE. SCREEEEEEEEEEN!
I've never even held an Apple product in my hand.

>>56060147
Oh. My laptop only has system volume buttons, but not player volume or anything else music-related. I didn't know Macs have those.

>>56060138
I know because I was tired of OS X too and I tried Linux. Holy shit it's like night and day, it's literally impossible for Linux to even being near the quality of OS X on the desktop.

After that I stopped being "tired" of OS X.

>>56059579
Spotify is good.

>>56060184
The difference is, I use Linux at work every day, and it's not like night and day. The only things I'm missing are Photoshop and Illustrator. Gimp and inkscape are fucking terrible alternatives. There are many things that are annoying on OS X that are nice as fuck on Linux, i.e. dependency issues when compiling software.

>>56059630
>>56059754
Funny how you guys don't think Applel will do the touchbar right for once, OLED display which will give really low light off when it shows black. Force Touch enabled, so there won't be incorrect presses. Fully integrated with the OS so you don't need third party software to have it function the way you want it to.

>>56059522
It would be great if it was something like that. Then they can get rid of the dedicated menubar all together and finally not have a shit window manager that can't autofocus windows.

>>56060155
>Oh. My laptop only has system volume buttons, but not player volume or anything else music-related. I didn't know Macs have those.
The volume buttons are for system volume, the player buttons (previous, next, pause/play) are also for the system, audio players can use the built in APIs to listen to these buttons.

>>56059618
>You could have just said >using imessage. I don't know why anyone would lock themselves to an OS-specific messenger.
iMessage still can use a Jabber account, it can also send and receive text messages if you have an iPhone.

>>56059630
Apple's stole the idea of a tablet and made it successful. Apple stole the idea of a smartphone and made it successful.

They actually are "innovative" because they steal ideas and make them successful in the market.

>>56059630
>inb4 applel now gets all the praise for how innovative and revolutionary that is

Apple will actually do it right because they also make the OS that they put on their laptops unlike Lenovo.

>>56060429
Elementary OS is literally what Mac OS should have been. No distracting menus.

>>56059777
>Treating a mark-up concept by an independent artist as reality

I think the whole idea is stupid, but I think someof you are forgetting this is a mockup by someone outside of apple.

It's not an official release of what we'll see.

>>56059522
>concept
concept
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concept
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concept
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concept
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concept

fuck off

>>56060501
>Apple will actually do it right because they also make the OS that they put on their laptops unlike Lenovo.
Why don't laptop manufacturers ever ship a custom linux distro with their notebooks? Would it be good or as terrible as android bloat?

>>56060184
Not the guy you were replying to, but I think the point is that past experience is not indicative of suture experience.

In 3-4 years, Linux might be like the MacOS of today, and MacOS could be much better, or much worse.

It's hard to predict technology 3-4 years out, hence the fact that you really don't know Linux will still be lagging behind in 4 years.

Probable, yes, but who knows.

>>56059522
It all depends on the execution and given Apples recent record with perfecting old ideas, be it tablets or fingerprint readers, it will be probably pretty neat.

I don't use half of the keys it will replace regularly and being able to put the stuff you want there should speed up the work flow.

>>56060678
I would love to get a ThinkPad or Latitude with that, since I love da clitmouse with Linux.

You *Can* get a Dell Precision or XPS with Ubuntu installed.

>>56060709
Suture=future

Damn, my typing is shit today.

>>56059856
he thinks that you need them for keyboard shortcuts on a mac

Apple computers are for retards, and retards love gimmicks like this. I though this was firmly established

>>56059522
Is it bad that I find this unironically neat?

Then again, yet another layer of drivers and software and bloatware and abstraction and layers to perform a basic function.

Still, I can't help but feel like I seen this or something very similar to this before. OLED key caps I think?

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>>56060798
t. NEET

>>56060831
wow, who would guess that apple store workers use apple products!

>>56059557
This. My work laptop has one and it's fucking terrible. So unresponsive.

>>56059618
>I don't know why anyone would lock themselves to an OS-specific messenger.
Because it's better.

>>56059557
They usually do :^)

>>56059643
Why would it be that? Why would any company try to implement anything like that anymore? Are you stupid?

>>56059749
What did he mean by this?

>>56059522

OOOHHH HELL NAWWW

>>56059557
they won't
but they don't have to, their users will love it no matter what

>>56060845
8/10 bait

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>>56059630
>mfw I have a macbook at work and most of my coworkers have thinkpads with those bullshit function keys

I fear having to upgrade

>>56060831

NASA:

>uses ThinkPads for serious work
>uses MacBooks to watch videos of launches and landings

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>innovation

>>56061452
They don't use ThinkPads anymore, they switched to HP and the only reason they were using either was due the improved radiation shielding. Due it being not necessary on the ground, they use superior hardware there.

Now that you learned a bit, feel free to go back to /v/

>>56060253
And for Photoshop and illustrator, WINE works charmingly. I am terrified of apples wonkiness lately too, in el Crapitan email still breaks randomly for crying out loud (current year?!??) And they are making fucking watches. Also I have MacBook 12 "butterfly" keyboard and it is fucking HORRIBLE.

>>56059630
Well if they actually make it werk why shouldn't they receive praise?

>>56059522

Why don't they make the touchpad a screen and use it for notifications. Like an embedded phone screen.

>>56061931
Because that would be fucking annoying on many levels.

>>56059522
This will be a nice update. You forgot that Apple don't need to support millions of devices but only their current lines of Macbooks. They also create their own OS and with that said all the apps that will run on MacOS will be supported. I dig it.

But this is a poormens board for neets without jobs if you seriously want to discuss this hit hardware forum.

>>56060831
the patrician and qt don't. everyone else looks 3rd world tier (india, sweden, scotland)

>>56060772
kek, I can't imagine needing function keys instead of using intelligent 2 key combinations to do anything on my computer.

>>56059768
Why would you play video games out of your home?
I prefer to play my games on my home because I can put attention on the story of the game and is more comfortable to play on my couch with a big screen while with a laptop is embarassing to carry on a fat, heavy and ugly design laptop.

>>56061622

holy shit I remember these terrible things!

>>56059522
I suspect that at least part of this decision was to make a hackintosh harder to make.

>>56059724
except it doesnt unless you use iclouds calendar. you can still sync microsoft and google and other calendars in there

more worthless MEME features to get the pseudo-intellectual """"""""""tech"""""""""" crowd talking

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>>56060831
the pr team uses Apple laptops they got for free so Apple can get free advertisement for pseudo intellectuals

meanwhile Thinkpads are used in space

>>56059522
That's actually not bad. I had one of those bars a few laptops ago (like 2010) and I enjoyed it.

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>>56059522
Why can't they make their own ideas and have to steal shit from other companies all the fucking time?

>>56064227
Big companies are rarely innovative, specially successful ones like Apple since they don't have to focus on it, while smaller competitors need to innovate to have a shot.

Besides, while Apple steals ideas they do the execution much better, which later gets copied and becomes industry standard, so it's a win-win for consumers.

>>56059557
Apple usually can because they have a much better software-hardware integration.

But still, as someone that uses a lot of excel, having no keys there is worrying.

>>56059522
>mfw Apple starts sticking ads on there

>>56059522
>10 years later
>macbooks dont have keyboards
>they have keyboard touchpads now

this will happen, and macfags will each this shit up. Each key will have "force touch" and can be programmed in any way.

>>56064227
>some company does something 'new'
>its shit and nobody uses it
>apple copies it
>just werks and its a huge success
>/g/ cries about it because Apple didn't actually 'invent' it

lel

>>56059522
>removing the some of the most useful keys (function keys) for a touchscreen bar to play ur favourite music xD!!!
Seriously wtf is apple doing

>>56065482
It's a display. It can CHANGE what it displays depending on what is active,or what you, the user, choose

http://www.martinhajek.com/macbook-meets-oled/

All of you are fully retarded

>>56064227
Why should you care? Like do you own one of the companies Apple supposedly steals from? Seriously, I don't get this company shilling on here, they all just want your fucking money, you have absolutely no benefit from defending those pieces of shit. I don't even care whether it's Apple, MS or Google or whatever, it's fucking ridiculous.

>>56064479
>>56064479
BUT APPLE DIDNT CREATE IT ARGHHHHHHHHHHH WHEN WILL THE SHEEP REALIZE THIS

>>56059579
>"He uses stuff I don't use, fucking pleb"
This is why people think you're a faggot anon.

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>>56064186
>photo from 2014
>they still use windows XP

>>56065635
Who cares? Does it usually work better in Apples iteration? Yes. Does Apple themselves usually claim creating it? No. Does media claim apple creating it? Yes. Does media really fucking suck, like always? Hell yes.

>>56065680
Exactly my point.

And desu nobody really creates things anymore, its all a big patent battle everywhere.

What matters is who does it better

>>56061443
Newer models fixed that bullshit, thankfully.

>>56059522
cool idea but not worth replacing the F keys with. should have just made the keyboard a bit taller and added the touchbar above F keys imo.

>>56059522

no idea. losing the dedicated escape and power keys for this seems stupid, especially if something crashes and you can't cmd-opt-esc to force quit it.

>>56067923
this, why would they put important buttons on something capable of becoming unresponsive?

>>56065540
I know, but i think the function keys are better

Meh I think I will hold onto my rMBP for a bit longer.

This a Fucking USEFUL idea!
You can put emojis for Social Media Professionals
You can put buttons for easir code formatter for Coders
You can put tools for Designers.
You can create better slide controls.
You can create interactions for games.

Theres too many things you cand do! Its amazing.

>>56059645
>fully customizable
yeah, like no apple product ever

>>56068181
>Social Media Professionals

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>>56059522
>two clocks

>>56059522
>Who the fuck thought this would be a good idea?
Whoever dreamed it up and posted it where it would be seen.
Apple has yet to announce it.

>>56065662
Well, these are fairly old machines, being from the Core 2 era at the latest. They likely only do exactly what they need to do, while not being connected to the big and scary internet.

>>56060244
>Paying for music
5 shekels have been added to your wallet ;)

I just don't understand what the point of this is. Every bit of information this conveys is already on-screen. Who is the end-user who would benefit from a laptop with a screen that's off more often than it's on?

>>56059630
As stupid as Apple's implementation is, this is even worse. At least Apple decided to remove the function keys and do something else with them. Lenovo just removed them and put them back in the form of a less responsive, less accurate gimmick.

I can't wait to pick up a couple of these touch bar assemblies when china spews them out
nice replacement for my G15