/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

How many monitors can an x220 run while docked?

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>>56043665
First for superior battery life

>>56043720
>all that wasted vertical space

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Here's a Toughbook thats not popular enough to sell.

>>56043687
you can't HD3000 can't handle it.

>>56043720
9cell on x220?

>>56043732
yeah, he could have at least used a de/wm with smaller titlebars.

>>56043735
>that kb layout
>that circular trackpad that Panasonic loves

why

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>>56043764
Almost all sub 12" laptops before vista always had fucked up keyboard layouts.
it was inevitable

>fucking tv ended up breaking on its way to new york, had to refund fully and fedex didn't give us a fucking dime.

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>>56043753 >>56043732
>9cell on x220?
exactly.

also I don't really mind the titlebars.
I only open 2 windows each workspace anyways.

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>>56043735

CF-C1 can also be found for cheap with relatively decent specs.

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/g/ I really like the T430 series that I want to get a T431s. I believe I can swap the trackpad like the T440's and I have a OK innolux IPS FHD panel to toss it in.

>>56043817
Thanks!
I really got to get more information on ToughBooks, though right now they are as about confusing as the Vaio series when it comes to the model number.

Anyone heard of any oled issues on the x1 yoga? About to pull trigger.

>>56043843
where do you get your laptops for selling?

>>56043946
Random sellers,
Arrow direct I got an 8760w for $260, sold it for $600 after some RAM added in.
>electronicscafe
>x1_computers
>kramdeninstitute - I felt bad giving a low ball offer after reading its for blind people
>makeitdirect
>rocycle2012
>computers4usall - bought 4 770's for $50, sold one rare 5:4 770X for $245, one left.
>urtjvl120
>ecyclepc - good shit for cheap, often buy items for HDD/RAM
>e-cyclepro
>greencitizen - sometimes too many people bid on items, otherwise good deals

>>56043807
how can you do anything on that? that huge font and titlebar takes so much space from that small screen.

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Did I fuck up?

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>>56044068
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

>>56044061
Thanks senpai, you do this for a living? Why are the deals on these sites better than eBay?

>>56044064
Honestly it's pretty easy to use.
I never ran into space problems so far.
And since the font is rather big I can comfortably lean back and still read everything.
Also I zoomed in in the browser. Everywhere else the font is much smaller, so a lot of text fits on the screen.

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X2xx master race!!

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>>56044068
>nroken in 3 months top intensifies

>>56043735
>you can't
So I should get a DUDE t420 LMAO if I want to have my laptop be my battlestation?

Torn between X220 and X230 lads.

>>56044068
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>56044068
As long as you're happy with it.
I think it looks plasticky, cheap and the trackpad has no buttons. But I've never had an 11e, maybe it's great?

>>56044068
WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR LAPTOP? STUPID FAGGOT AMERICAN WITH MACINTOSH PHONE AND GIANT ORIFICE OF BOWEL LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE MACHINE OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND SAYS "NO, LAPTOP NEED LESS DUMB FEATURES ON IT"?

WHAT IS REASON FOR ISLAND KEY? IF YOU NEED TO TYPE QUICKLY IN EMERGENCY, NOW FINGERS TWISTED INTO PAINFUL ANGLE AND YOU MISS EVERY KEY! LOOK AT WRONG ANGLE OF SCREEN VIEWING! LOOK AT CHEAP PLASTIC CASE THAT CRACK LIKE TRASH FROM CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY! WHERE DID POINTING STICK GO?

I HEAR OF CANCER OF MACINTOSH IN AMERICA. ADDING ISLAND KEY TO LAPTOP MEANS YOU CHANGE OTHER PARTS. WHAT ELSE YOU FUCK? YOU PUT CHEAP SOLDERED RAM? HOW ABOUT BAD SCREEN OF TWISTED NEMATIC DESIGN AND ASPECT OF HOLLYWOOD TO SHOW OFF AT CAPITALIST COFFEE HOUSE AND NEVER COMRADE CAN SEE WHEN SIT NEXT TO YOU?

SURE, IS ONLY CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY COPY TYPE BUT IS STILL PROUD DESIGN OF RICHARD SAPPER. THIS IS LIKE SENDING HIM BIRTHDAY CARD WITH SEVERED OFF THUMB OF DAUGHTER IN ENVELOPE. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY COMRADE SAPPERI! I PISS ON ALL YOU CREATE!" LARGE MOUND FORMS OVER LANDFILL BY CONSTANT TUMBLING OF ANGRY MACHINE SPIRITS. IS FAULT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

LAPTOP WAS FINE BEFORE YOU FUCK IT. NOW IS TRASH. MAYBE YOU CHECK IN FACTORY AND ORIGINAL DESIGN OF CASE AND KEYBOARD ARE STILL THERE. MAYBE IS NOT TOO LATE TO KEEP LAPTOP SOMETHING NOT SHAMEFUL TO TAKE TO PLACE OF EDUCATION OR WORK. TAKE SHIT OF GOAT AWAY AND COULD STILL BE GOOD LAPTOP.

I need a bit of help, /tpg/.

I got a free x220 from my dad last week. I decided to slap an SSD onto it, so I got the cheapass ADATA SP550. But after I was done installing my OS on it I noticed that my x220 was unable to boot into the disk, despite the fact that the BIOS recognized the drive correctly.

What do? The first thing I wanted to do was boot into this thing: http://support.lenovo.com/uu/en/downloads/ds013805 but since x220 does not have an optical drive I don't want to burn it to a CD. I could not boot my USB of which I used dd to copy the provided bootable image.

Am I at least on the right direction? I even updated my BIOS, but things are refusing to work.

>>56044342
Checked boot order?
I had to manually add "boot from USB" to the boot order menu since it only had my preinstalled SSD in it.
Search a little around in the UEFI settings, I'm sure you'll find what's wrong.
Just because it recognizes your SSD doesn't mean it's added into the boot order menu.

>order x220
>arives in good condition
>procede to change the hard drive
>nitice the hdd rack is missing as well as 1 of the 2 rubber rails
is it a problem /g/ ?

Who else is using or plans to use a ThinkPad as a desktop replacement?

t. traveller

>>56044289

Feels very solid, it's fast, screen is okay, 6 hours battery and great keyboard.

Join the new master race.

Why do you guys love Chinese bloatbooks so much? Is it just to be part of the secret club?

>>56044427
I'm not too sure what you are talking about, because you are kind of going back and forth with the USB and SSD stuff...

But if you meant that I should check my boot priorities (regardless of the boot targets being an SSD or USB) I'm pretty certain that's not it, because I not only changed the boot order in BIOS but also made it manually boot to USB at startup anyways.

>>56044528
Wibble wobble wibble wobble jelly on a plate

>>56044528
They're cheap used, pretty good performance and they're easy to service and maintain.
Plus they feel really durable. Going from a HP notebook to a thinkpad is quite the difference.

>>56044574
Yeah sorry I'm not a native English speaker, and I translated a lot of German (poorly) to English.
But I meant exactly what you said.
I thought you might have not done it yet since it caught me by surprise, when I got my X220, that "boot from USB" was completely missing from the "boot priorities menu".

>>56044068
What jewery is this!? Truely sad to see ThinkPad printed on that but at this point I'm not even surprised.

>>56044475
I'm using X230 as my main desktop but I usually dock it with external display.

>>56044528
Normies don't appreciate the quality of refurbished ThinkPads so we can get them for super cheap compared to buying new with similar performance and quality.

>>56044468
Complain to seller. You can live without it or order a new caddy/rubber rail for few monies.

>>56044475
x230 with dock, 1080p monitor and desktop peripherals reporting

Linux a shit for docking/undocking though. I'm sure there are ways to script shit for docking/undocking events, I just haven't bothered to look into it yet.

>>56044528
#BlackLaptopsMatter

>>56045024
I've had no problem docking/undocking an X230 with Ubuntu. Everything works out of the box.

Works for me:
-undocking/docking while power is on
-undocking/docking while sleeping
-automatically putting on the docked display configuration
-optical drive
-usb peripherals
-ethernet
-power

What are these problems you talk of?

>>56043720
I got a 9cell on my x220, mine claims to have six hours when fully charged but then delivers about four, still not bad for what I paid for the whole laptop. Are newegg batteries good?

>>56044068
Dude, I been thinking about one of those, hows the performance. Hows the battery life.

>>56045247
I have a genuine Lenovo battery. It claims anywhere between 6-10 hours fully loaded, and delivers anything inbetween depending on load.
My Uptime now is just over 2.5 hours with around 2 third of battery left, so I'll end somewhere between 7-8hours at same load.
Looks like your battery is shit m8.

>>56045178
It's cobbled-together Debian testing with no DE. It wants to go to sleep during undocking and when I wake it up off the dock, it doesn't want to show the internal display. More cobbling is clearly required. I think I just need to do xrandrshit at a docking/undocking event. Same goes for switching off ethernet and switching on wifi.

Good to know a fully fleshed distro handles it though, I'll look at how Ubuntu does it. It just hasn't been annoying enough to deal with yet since it spends 99% of its time on the dock. As it stands, I've just been shutting it down before undocking.

tl;dr - disregard, I suck cocks

>>56044068
>horizontal spaces between pgup/arrow keys
>zero vertical spacing
What the absolute fucking
someone pls explain this

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>>56045337
>your battery is shit

well yeah I know. so where do you buy a battery from? lenovo wants $170 that is more than the laptop cost.

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>>56044068
>there are laptops that look like this with the name ThinkPad on them

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>>56045337
still getting 11 hours from this.

>>56045454
Damn, I got mine when I bought my X220 for an extra 80€.

>>56045490
>>56045502

And where did you buy them? I only paid $100 for the x220

>>56045454
Chink Thinkpad layouts crack me up. Just look at that tiny space bar, it's adorable!

>>56045454
Hory sheet how can i get jap keyboard in europe?
Is it possible to order it on amazon.jp?

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>apple design

>>56045525
I don't know dude, do you want it? I want a english keyboard but I'm not willing to put up with ebay shit and spending $50 on a "normal" layout keyboard.

>>56045515
lapstore.de, I live in Germany.
Paid 400€ for my X220, but at least it cames fully refurbished with a 1 year warranty and a new keyboard.

What is some Drive cloning software that you'd recommend?

>>56045538
okay but those PBG3's were comfy as fuck.

>>56045515
its the original that come with the laptop when i bought it

>>56045560
holy shit dude thats a lot for a used laptop dont you think?

>>56045601
at least it has better build quality than a new 400€ laptop.

>>56045601
Well, maybe, but you sure as hell don't get anything better for that price so i's not like I regret it.
Actually I think it was worth the money.
I mean I could have bought one off of ebay for like 200€, but that would have come with a use battery of unknown quality, not refurbished, without any warranty, and probably with one of those shitty HDDs they used to slap into Thinkpads (this one came with a 250GB SSD).
So yeah, I think it was a good deal.

>>56044792
I'm on complete newfag mode, what can I do exept leave a shitty review, also, what specific terms should I try to get the missing parts ? I'm not a native english speaker.

Just finished installing Arch on my X61 tablet, do I need to install drivers for the audio to work?

>>56045656
You're right. Mine was $100 with shitty RAM 2GB, no HDD or caddy, no power supply, but did have 9 cell battery.

Within a week my touchpad start acting jerky and would stop the clit mouse from moving, replaced flex cable for touchpad, that didn't work, replaced touchpad its now working, touchpad was $7 and they sent me two. Power supply was 15 bucks and I think its original, should I buy the 90w kind??

So, next thing I'll buy for it is SSD MSATA, 8GB RAM and a new battery and will end up having as much in it as you do. Oh yeah got the moonrune keyboard, you actually never notice it until you need some symbol and you don't really know where it is.

>>56045674
Send a message to the seller complaining that the HDD caddy is missing essential parts (the rubber rail) and you want either the part or 5€ back to buy one yourself. Say that you will give negative feedback otherwise. They'll probably give in to avoid negative feedback.

Whatever you do don't just give negative feedback without contacting the seller. It's very shitty to do as the seller might have made a mistake or maybe they didn't inspect the drive before selling.

You want to look for :
>7mm ThinkPad caddy rubber
>X220 caddy rubber

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7mm-Hard-Drive-Caddy-Rubber-Rails-For-ThinkPad-X220-X220I-X230-X230I-T420S-T430-/281281572896

>>56045656
I always buy refurbished to get warranty and for tax reasons even though they are more expensive than ones from auction sites.

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>>56045915
thanks onii chan desu

why does thinkpad x220 screen have burn in or we its called? thought that only crts have it...

>>56044281
If you don't immediately care about the keyboard, get the x230 for the better cpu and integrated graphics. You can eventually switch out the keyboard for a x220 keyboard as well.

My msata ssd arrived, and I'm shocked at how tiny it is.
What does /g/ think would be best, clone the existing harddrive over to the ssd. Or just format the whole thing and reinstall onto the ssd?

>>56046584
format

So i can buy this Thinkpad X230i (with Core i3 2370m) for 110 euros, the thing is a banger though and has suffer some damage. I still have an old case lying around from a regular X230, will this fit the X230i?

Also is this considered an upgrade from a core i5 520m in a T410?

Seems like a really good deal since i still have some old parts lying around to fix it with.

>>56046773
That's what I was thinking. I just got the computer anyway, so I don't have any data to back up.

>>56046814
I would say clone if you are lazy, but since you barely got anything on it, you might as well format.

>>56046858
Are there any cons to cloning versus formatting and reinstalling?

>>56046805
Can't comment on euro pricing and >i3, but you seem to know what you're getting.

Regular model case will fit the -i model mobo.

Pretty significant upgrade vs a first gen i5.

>>56046805
>110 euros
you could probably buy a T420 for a little more than that

>>56047224
Meant to say:
*significant upgrade in integrated GPU*

Processing power isn't going to be anything to write home about.

>>56046267
Image persistence, earlier x220 IPS panels had that feature. I've found it to be annoyingly noticable only against certain gray backgrounds

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What's /tpg/ opinion on libreboot x200?

I was thinking of getting a thinkpad x200 and making all tge freedum modifications, just for hobby but:

>some RAM modules wont work
>virtualization causes kernel panic
>outdated microcode and general not functioning stuff

Is it really worth it? I wanted it as a small laptop for non critical tasks, but it seems it falls way behind...

Its sad because [spoiler]I started to like this wacky thing a lot[/spoiler]

>>56046267
CRTs would actually burn the image in. LCDs have their own form of "burn in" where the pixels have "image persistence." My early Sony HDTV has that .

>>56044068
you are now aware that this is a Thinkpad

>>56043720
I upgraded my T420s screen to a 1080p IPS panel. Didn't really realize the battery penalty I was paying, oh well, it's absolutely worth it and there's a power source anywhere I go anyway

>>56044068
not sure if goy or just stoopid

>>56044068
is this pic shopped?

>>56047351
>>some RAM modules wont work
it's fine as long as they are the same density
>>virtualization causes kernel panic
>virtualizing anything on an X200
>>outdated microcode and general not functioning stuff
everything functions fine unless you don't know how to configure GNU/Linux

>I started to like this wacky thing a lot
Just use Arch. It's the special snowflake feeling without any extra effort

>>56044311
>I HEAR OF CANCER OF MACINTOSH IN AMERICA
dubs spoken

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IT'S HABBENING!!!!

My Thinkpad p70 is arriving today!

Want an unboxing?

Can I use a smaller power brick on the p70 for light tasks?

i7-6700hq
M3000M gpu
8gb ram
1080p

1tb NVMe M.2 ssd

>>56043665
I need to know which type of thinkpad I should get?

I was thinking of getting a p50s or a used x1 carbon with a damaged hinge for $220

Here there link for x1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X1-Carbon-14-Intel-Core-i5-3427U-1-8GHz-4GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-/401169167765?hash=item5d678bb595:g:eNkAAOSw6n5XrK-R

>>56047586
sure how much did it?

>>56047636

I accidentally the whole $2k

>>56047586
How is the P series anyway?

>>56047677
>tfw your austim spiking and shitpost badly

>>56045538
the logo upside down on thinkpads too, dipshit.

>>56047688

Idk. Hasn't arrived yet. Overpaid by a lot because I wanted the nice keyboard trackpoint. The SSD was $750 but I figured fcuk it because I had to at least drop $140 for a 500gb spinner. Might as well upgrade to an ssd. Problem is, a 256gb ssd costs $400. So for double the cost, I get 4x storage and much faster read/write in an M.2 I could probably put into my next computer.

>>56047745
Thinkpad logo is not meant to be light up and seen to strangers.

>>56047732

Not all of us can be Australian kings of the shitpost

Laptop newb here. Can I put any SSD in my t420?

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>>56047515

As real as my shekels

college retard here
do i get a thinkpad or do i wait for new macbook to come out
i do photoshop work and video editing and business work
no gaming

please no bully

>>56047827

please no mac

>>56047785
as long as it's msata or 2.5" yes

>>56047785
full sata 2.5", but yes.
Assuming it's like my X220, which I have no reason to doubt.

>>56047827
I would get one with a GPU, but otherwise yes.

>>56047827
if you have a scholarship get what you want. maybe even consider a xps 13.

now get the fuck out of /tpg/

so i paid premium for a "new" thinkpad keyboard on ebay. i got some crumb-filled shit. wtf

do you remove the stickers from your thinkpads, /tpg/?

>>56047973
I read your post and just removed mine. Never liked them.

>>56047547

>Just use arch

I did, I liked it, I became bored, and now I just want something a little less hard to mantain.

>everything functions fine unless you don't know how to configure GNU/Linux

Configuration is not an issue. I've been using GNU for a year now and I dont usually whine about having to read technical stuff. I like it as a hobby.

But at BIOS level i dont know that much, and if there are some serious performance issues I can do nothing about, I would not take it (like, you can always dig into code but thats not an option for me right now)

I just wanted a computer for normie use, but, in freedom. And maybe explore deep computing concepts from time to time.

Also the keyboard looks comfy, backlight looks like shit tho

>>56047973
I did yesterday, i regret it now.

The spot where the sticker was is noticeable and triggers my autism every time i see it.

>>56048194
wipe it down with something?

>>56045178
i use arch and just yank it outta the dock without safely disconnecting zero fucks given lol

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>>56044311
kek, good to see somebody else making use of my pasta

>>56047196
Bumping. Cloning seems so much easier.

Whats the max size SD card you can use with the T420?

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>>56043665
Just purchase my thinkpad backpack

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Does this make you mad, /g/?

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>>56048812
Mein Nigger

>>56048881
>stretched 4:3

kek

>>56048812
no. how hard is it? where do you get the media from is the part i dont understand.

>>56048922
It's pretty tedious work honestly. Don't feel like explaining every little step but I just followed a guide on InsanelyMac.com because hella boredom.

If you search "T410 Mackintosh" should be the first link that pops up.

>>56047224
Thank you for the comment. I currently have a X230 in almost mint condition. It was a banger when I bought it but I replaced all the damaged parts so its basically an A grade refurbished model now.

The x230i im looking at has a damaged case, rotten battery and a damaged usb port. I can fix most of the things but im kinda worried about the usb port (dont really care it doesnt work but afraid of shortages).

>>56048812
No. Its just one less reason for anybody to ever buy a mac

Can you post your bags please /tpg/?
Need some inspo

>>56048812
Not really no. Has there ever been a mac with a trackpoint?

>>56045454
Just get it on amazon. Same genuine battery for like $60 maybe

>>56043843
The T431 is more like a T440 than a T430

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I don't really need the bigger screen, but the T5xx looks more complete than the others to me

>>56049622
I have a T530 and I'm very happy with it. Feels very robust, and I like the screen.
Do get the 1600x900 screen though, I hear the 1328x768 one is a bit shite.

just got a qt x220 /g/, i7, 8 gb ram, 250 ssd

1. It's reaching 50 oC on battery saver and gets +80 on video play back, should I replace thermal paste?
2. I'm planning on installing Linux for the first time but Ubuntu looks pretty ugly to me (yes im planning on being a rice fag) what should I install? I'm considering crunchbang

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My ultrabay caddy just arrived and finally I'm able to boot my trusty Mint HDD again!

How can I safely reinstall grub on a T430?

>>56049855
80+ on video playback seems a bit high but it varies depending on quality. Still, I'd repaste.

Crunchbang is based on Debian Wheezy and is dead. Crunchbang Plus Plus (#!++) and BunsenLabs are its successors. I run #!++ on two machines, one with testing repos, the other on stable. Both work good. Testing has broken minor things from time to time. It's just an opportunity to learn.

>>56049741
don't listen to him. get the 1080p model

>>56047688
workstation replacement
same garbage build quality issues as other lines
relatively better screen

>>56048149
>But at BIOS level i dont know that much, and if there are some serious performance issues I can do nothing about, I would not take it
there is really not a lot of tweaking you would need to do at the BIOS level
If flashed properly it's a one time procedure
There are problems with the dock if you use one fixes exist
Libreboot is actually easier to install than coreboot. You would have to hardware flash though which means having a few pieces of hardware

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All 3 sound like decent deals.

Can't decide. Halp?

>>56050174
the one with the IPS panel

>>56050174
Forgive me for asking a dumb question, but what do you mean "IPS panel"?

>>56050243
there are two display technologies for that model

the IPS screen and the TN screen type

TN is the typical cheap panel you would see on garbage monitors and is really hard to work with, especially in outside conditions with strong light.

Once you use an IPS screen it's hard to ho back to TN.

I would consider the screen technology to be one of the biggest buying points of a laptop

>>56050174
what site?

>>56050279
Interesting. Another dumb question: which one is IPS? I'm not good at the hardware stuff, to be honest.

>>56050322
You can't tell from those stock photos. I guess you could try and contact them to ask but you're likely to be told to fuck off or they'll just send whichever one is on the top of the pile anyway.

>>56050174
>i7 is cheaper
How?

Also, stands to reason that somebody who bought the i7 went for the screen upgrade too. But it's just that, an assumption.

>>56050322
not sure about labeling scheme for them

screen tech might be differentiated by model number

IPS will be the more expensive one

on the website you are looking on, they seem to mention IPS explicitly in the LCD features list so I guess every other listing is the regular TN

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7GS49T1249&cm_re=lenovo_thinkpad_x220_ips-_-9SIA7GS49T1249-_-Product

>>56048812
No, but it does make me ask questions.
Where did you get the media ?
Does your WLAN work ?
If so, did you have to get another WLAN card, and which one ?
Did you have to do BIOS flashy shenanigans to get another WLAN card working ?

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Hi /tpg/, I really need your help.

My T420 has suddenly developed a problem seemingly out of nowhere.

Basically, whenever I unplug the charger it immediately turns off, even though it says the battery is fully charged.

Has this happened to anyone else, and how do you fix it?

Which sites should i look for grade A chinkpads? I live in europe

>>56050457
might be your battery, check its condition
>>56050499
good luck

>>56050457
This is most likely caused by a dead battery, but could also be fucked connectors on the motherboard's side.

>>56050499
ebay

Holy shit, >>56050174 here. Didn't scroll down, turns out NE has a shit ton of them.

Ruling out all of them with Windows 10, obv.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=thinkpad+x220&N=-1&isNodeId=1

>>56050523
How do I check the condition, exactly?
>>56050525
I hope the battery isn't dead, but it's better than the mobo being broken in some way I guess

>>56050172

>You would have to hardware flash though which means having a few pieces of hardware

I count with that, and its part of the perks of playing around with libreboot.

What worries me, is having to play around with parameters, or actual code, beyond what it is available on tutorials. (Like i had to do with arch)

So even with libreboot, it will be a good normie computer, isnt it?

>>56050551
heard Gookovo is actually offering a good discount that can be combined with their student promo
>>56050558
>How do I check the condition, exactly?
on shitdows there should be a power management util directly from lelnovo that generates a battery stats report
On GNU/Linux it would be upower or tlp
>>56050564
>So even with libreboot, it will be a good normie computer, isnt it?
No. Libreboot kind of takes it too far out of the realm of a regular computer. You don't really have to mess with Libreboot to get it working like Coreboot though. The install steps are simple by design (if a bit obscure, on the official webpage). You have precompiled ROMs for different SPI chips. All you have to do is connect and flash with the utilities. There is a decent recently made guide that tries to make walk the user through the flashing process as much as possible.

>>56050558
>How do I check the condition, exactly?
Depends on your OS. If you're on Windows, Lenovo has some utility for it. On Linux, something about grep and upower. You can google this yourself.

>I hope the battery isn't dead, but it's better than the mobo being broken in some way I guess
Honestly, it's not very likely to be your mobo. It's possible, but get the battery checked first.

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>>56050631
>>56050635
I'm going to guess this isn't good, shit

>>56050635
>It's possible, but get the battery checked first.
not him but I have never had a battery die suddenly like that without indicating a yellow fast flashing light in the LED status

>find someone selling what looks like a t420 for $30
>ask if he still has it
>no response
>call
>didn't pick up
>text again
>replies
>'no'
>fuck.jpg
>look through listings again
>he relisted it
>mfw

>>56050662
yeah, from that info you can conclude it's likely the battery

if it's holding below 50 it's typically way past it's life

>>56050735
t420 listed for 50USD
blurry picture

description is four words:
i5
power adapter comes

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I have pic related, a smart card reader/writer

Bought some SLE4443 cards that claim to be ISO 7816 compliant just like the reader

I can not get the software to recognize these cards however, getting an unresponsive card from error from pcsc-tools

Does anyone know anything about smart cards that can offer some advice? The standards for these are annoyingly obscure

my t430 battery lasts me about 3&1/2 hours

how horrible of an idea is it to buy one of the generic 9 cell batteries if this is my main machine?

>>56050781
Does power adapter recline next to wall socket afterwards, a cigarette in her receptacle?

>>56051095
battery
cell one
Lenovio/IBM'
goof charge
why youneed it? tyhree hours productiviti

BIG

>>56047973
>>56048194
Use white spirit (I had to look up the translation. It's called terpentine in my language.). The Intel sticker was especially hard to remove, but with the white spirit it was much easy. You have to look really good to see the mark.

>>56047279
ok. does that mean that i have an ips panel then?
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht051485

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what /tpg/ approved netbooks are available these days?

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Just got my first Thinkpad, a P50 for grad school. Xeon, Quadro 4g, 16gb memory. Feels pretty good /g/

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This or a X230 Tablet? I want a convertible but the 1366x768 resolution is a turn off.

>>56052113
I'd go with the X230 Tablet personally. Though T904 is better specced, it is a consumer model and won't be built to the same standard.

You shouldn't be turned off that much by 1366x768 at this screen size. The T904 may have a 2560x1440 panel, but you're going to be scaling everything up to the point that it's just glorified 1280x720 anyway.
If you want higher resolution for the purpose of more screen real estate, look into spending some more for a 14" convertible like the X1 Yoga or similar.

>>56051999
>You will never be able to use a Thunderbolt 3 eGPU with your P50

Thats the only thing keeping me from buying one right now.

>>56043665
Does anyone know if there is any Linux support for tapping to click with my Dell Latitude's "pointstick" or track point? I had a Dell software option under Win7 previously if I'm not mistaken.

>>56052341
Forgot to mention, it's an E6520

>>56052113
ThinkPad Yoga 460

>>56052358
synaptic driver should support it

>>56052365
2expensive4me.

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>>56052365
>460
cancer

>thinkpad comes in the mail
a-am I a l33t h4xxor now, /tpg/?

>>56052863
not until you install gentoo

>>56052880
Fuck, I already installed Arch :(

>>56043665
>Typing from my new x260
Feels damn good.

>>56052900
ya blew it

you'll never get into the secret club now

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Hey /tpg/, just bought a surface pro 4. I'm really on the fence about opening it though. I saw the Thinkpad 13 on for 830 CAD and I'm thinking of returning this and grabbing that. Online reviews seem to speak well about the Thinkpad 13, but I know it's not the same. Anyone have experience with the 13? Thanks.

buying a thinkpad twist for $50 on cl. ??????????

what does /tpg/ think of this seller?
http://the620guy.com/

>>56052921
X260 is so fucking sexy, insane battery life.

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>>56052938
nooooo ;_;

>>56044278
I think he's full of shit, I've been able to get at least one running perfectly fine through onboard DPort.

Finally got the T420, but its running kinda sluggish. Guy I bought it from said he did a fresh Win 7 install, should I bother reinstalling? I was going to throw another 4GB of RAM into it too just in case.

>>56052952
$50?

Stolen/BIOS locked for sure.

>>56053129
I bought this one for $50, and while I don't know if it was stolen or not, it's obviously not BIOS locked.

>>56053115
>using an OS you didn't personally install
I want normies to leave.

>>56053115
How are the temps? You should be running 45-55 average. When I got mine it ran very slow, and I realized it was overheating like crazy. I repasted the CPU and now it's running at optimal temps.

>>56053159
How difficult is it to repaste a laptop CPU compared to a desktop?

>>56053183
It's very easy. One booger sized dab in the middle and that's it. Remember to clean out the fans while you're at it.

>>56053159
Its running at 60-80 right now. I'll definitely do that, thanks anon.

>>56053205
Well yeah, you do the same with a desktop, which I've done before. I meant taking out stuff to expose the CPU itself. Opening the back of the laptop is easy enough, since I had to do it to replace the fried hdd that came with it.

>>56053241
>>56053159
Its also using no less than 3GB of RAM at any time. I should probably do as the other anon suggested and just install my own Windows.

I reinstalled windows 7 on my X220T and for some reason my track point and trackpad don't work anymore. What's going on.

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What do guys think about a T460p with a 1440p with Intel HD 530 or should I pony up for a 940mx? Personally I would pick a 1080p screen but they're out of stock.

T450 yay or nay

>>56052954
anyone?

>>56053401
>940mx
Don't bother.
Added heat and battery hit isn't worth the marginal bump in performance for 3d.

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>>56053444
Not going to click that link but I sure as fuck would not buy from them if they aren't in BBB.

>>56053401
Why not just the T460? What are you doing that makes you want the T460p?

>>56053784
autocad

>>56053129
How do I check if it has locked bios? I was gonna see if it booted up into a gnu/linux distro live cd.

>>56053827
Turn on computer and hit F1 and see if it goes to a password propmt. If it does and the owner ESCs past it, walk away.

Thanks, they show desktop screens and they have AVG and Skype and stuff installed in Windows 8. Pretty sure it's just an undervalued deal.

I hope it goes well!

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>>56053960

what SATA drives are you guys using in your older sata II thinkpads? i want around a 512G but fuck if I'm paying for a current-gen SATA III when I'm bottlenecked at SATA II. currently eyeing a bx200

>>56053988
They dont exist. Nobody made SATAII 512Gb drives you retard.

>>56053827
>>56053865
You should also check their BIOS security while youre at it. I got a T420 and while the BIOS was unlocked, there was Computrace activated and shit. Turn that crap off unless you want the original owner to know everything about you.

>>56054308
>there was Computrace activated and shit. Turn that crap off unless you want the original owner to know everything about you.
How does that work? I'm not sure if this even has any kind of computrace functionality.

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>>56053977
>that bulge

>>56050967
that is pretty cool, come back and post when you figure out a use for it.

>>56049349
I've bought "genuine" batteries for other devices on amazon and its never the real deal, its usually refurb with shit cells, and considering that shit cells have a habit of exploding and since I'm going to go on a plane trip soon I don't want to deal with that, I seen newegg has a battery that claims to be lenovo for about 80 bucks I may try that.

>>56050967
>>56054600
Full disk encryption with a key on the card?

>>56054600
>come back and post when you figure out a use for it.
well, it's supposed to read/write to smartcards and that's what I wanted it for but I guess there is some reason that SLE4443 models don't get properly recognized (despite the supposed ISO 7816 compatibility claimed by the reader and the card)

I need to dig around for a reason as to why they don't work
>>56054608
yeah although I'm not sure about the low level implications on security when writing to a card with a proprietary OS compared to keeping it on a USB

I heard there are some special gpg cards that have a free (as in freedom) OS on the card

>>56054608
>>56054646

Why couldn't you do that with a SD/USB drive? Wouldn't it be simpler/easier than to be using proprietary/uncommon hardware? I guess it offers safety through obscurity.

>>56054683
You can load other things onto the card (phone number for a 3G modem maybe) and it frees up a slot for regular storage that you'd otherwise lose

>>56054381
"Enabled, not activated " and "permanently disabled" are fine.

You just don't want enabled+activated.

>>56054683
>I guess it offers safety through obscurity.
I know that's generally a bad practice.

>Wouldn't it be simpler/easier than to be using proprietary/uncommon hardware?
Absolutely.
I actually had it left over and wanted to see if I could just get it working.

It's the equivalent of a usb/sd in terms of proprietary usage if you use a libre card

>>56054766
How do you set something like that up? What software do you use? Never fooled around with encryption.

>>56054761
Well yes, but I meant what exactly does it do?

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Guess who finally got their HP Elitebook 2740p. 6GB of RAM, No HDD, and no OS.

What distro should I install onto it?

>>56054810
Gentoo, Arch or Antergos.

>>56054761
question: if there is no BIOS password and it's enabled+activated, can you just deactivate it (or is there an additional password/restriction) ?

>>56054820
>Antergos.

That's a new one, what's the deal?

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>>56054810
>HP laptop
I give it a year at best.

>>56054836
arch with gui: just werks edition

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Is the nippleclit supposed to be so stiff and easily pulled off, or is it trashy build quality?

>>56054859
What's arch's apt replacement?

>>56054848
I actually had a consumer brand HP that lasted for years (even to this day), even after heavy load. If it wasn't for the fact that I accidentally smashed the screen with my timberland boots, I would be using it right now.

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Like it's meant to be desu

>>56054885
Applel happened.

>>56054894
pacman

>>56054885
>What happened to the Elitebooks where you could change ram without tools?
what happened to good laptops?
consumerism happened

>>56054798
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoJack_for_Laptops

>>56054810
openSUSE

>>56054894
I've never owned one, but I have friends and family who between them have owned multiple, and almost all of them were complete shit. My uncle's lasted about a year or two because of a defect in the onboard video card that causes the solder points to get fucked up.

>>56055038
Oh, right. I'll look into that.

>>56054933
>ArchMemory

hhmmm...

Is it possible to use the fn numlock keys when the fn key is depressed, and not as a toggle via numlock?

>>56055194
fn numpad*

>tfw there are less than a dozen X60 units on ebay
>tfw almost all are broken
>tfw the ones that aren't broken are more expensive than a 2-3 year old thinkpad
Christ, what the fuck happened here?

>>56055285
New mobos are out.

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>>56055309
I thought that was vaporware?

>>56053401
You should get the 940mx, it adds a second heatpipe to the CPU. And believe me, you're gonna want that extra heapipe if you're actually using the CPU.

>>56053526
>added heat
Pssh, the 940mx heating up is the least of your worries, thing runs at 70C tops in my experience.
>battery hit
Dude, you can just set it so that the OS disables it and uses only intel HD530 when on battery life.

>>56055612
Nah, they're shipping if you can find a contact. Reddit had a guy saying he could get 20 a little while back.

>>56055673
wake me up when they have an actual pop in the western market

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Guys i need your help. May i know how to fix this? I'm a newbie owner of t430

>>56056192
did you break it?
try un screwing the screws, pushing the lid and the hinge together, and screwing it back in

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What's wrong with the X1 Carbon?

>>56056641
Battery life.

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>>56056641
that
I think it was the 2nd gen one that had that abomination.
the newer ones are alright, but not that great for repairs.
battery life on the older ones wasn't that special either, but on the newer ones it's ok

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>>56056641

I am sorry if this sounds like nitpicking but I don't like the new power connector thing. I'd have preferred it stay the same as the old one so I could use the T430 connector.

Disclaimer: I've never used a x1 carbon

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>>56056639
No I didn't break it. The seller didn't told me that the hinge was broken

>>56056818
unless you got i for an absolute steal i'd return it
getting a new lid, and transferring parts isn't super cheap, and takes a while to do.

Are the Newegg refurbished T420s on eBay worth it?

>>56056982
depends on how much they are going for and for what specs
if it's hd 3000 and 1366x768 then $150 max
if its hd 3000 + nvs and 1600x900 then 200-220 max.
you are generally much better off not getting a refub though.
the best deals are usually on ones with no ram/hdd. then getting an ssd (which you should be doing anyways) and then 8 or 16 gigs of ram

>>56051886
x220

>>56043665
i have a z61m. why isn't the z series mentioned anywhere? are they bad? i got it for a good deal, and it's running windows 7 well, and all is good it seems.

>>56057107
> are they bad?
yes. they "aren't a real thinkpad™"
and unless you spent like $40 on it it probably wasn't a good deal on a computer that old.

T420, 8740P, or E6420?

>>56057126
my good deal was free, so, yeah. i like it to be honest. it feels responsive, i love the keyboard, and it's super bulky. why isn't it a real thinkpad?

>>56057180
Cause it wasn't the t, x, or w series I guess

>>56057141
t420>e6420>8740p
>>56057180
cheap build quality mostly
they're basically a consumer grade laptop, but with a slightly higher price for that thinkpad name

Just bought a T420, thinking of getting an SSD for it. I know very little about them. Would a Kingston mS200 120GB be fine?

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>>56048812
It's pretty fun to go to some coffee shop and boot up the OSX VM. The looks that Apple people give you is fantastic.

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sup /g/, just got my X220, so far so good, but the right corner of the laptop is kinda loose and damaged, should I try to glue the corner or let it in place ?

>>56054822
No. You'd have to call Computrace and explain how you totally didn't steal it.

Then they'd lol and nuke the mobo from orbit.

>>56044068
A Jew chiclet keyboard...do you even need to ask?

Bought an X61 tablet the other day because it was cheap and slapped Arch on it. What should I use this thing for?

Anyone have a link to historical prices on new TPs? I'd like to know what a 600e would have been circa summer 2000

As a CS student I need a new laptop.

I'd like it to be fast, have a decent enough screen, and be around ~£200

Does /tpg/ have any recommendations?

>>56057758
Buy a T420, stick 8GB of RAM and an SSD in it.

>>56057767
>decent screen
the T420 screen is hot garbage

>>56057897
>decent enough screen
It works, doesn't it?

>>56057897
You're a CS student, you aren't exactly going to be doing HD photo editing.

>>56057533
wow you sound like a real cocksucker

>>56058011
Nah, it's fun to laugh at cucks.

>>56056728
well it's necessary for muh thin

>>56057758
x220 with an ips screen

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>>56058023
>use OSX
>calls others cucks

>>56058254
OSX exists as a VM just to screw with people.

>>56058278
>going to the effort to install an osx vm just for attention from strangers
Sad

>>56058295
It takes no effort to install it in a VM.
It was an experiment to see why people liked it. (It's a neutered POS)

>>56058295
its easier to install on a vm than on real hardware.

How do I tell the difference between a WLAN and WWAN card, is it written on the card itself?

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Which replacement battery for an x220 should I get?
Is this what I should be looking for?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Cell-Battery-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-X220I-42T4861-42T4862-42T4865-0A36282-US-/261879203410?hash=item3cf9378652:g:sGQAAOSw~otWe2R~

>>56058679
Failing anything else, WLAN uses grey/black/white antenna cables while WWAN cables are blue and red.

which os should I install on my new x220T?

explain to me why I shouldn't install arch on my 220 /g/

>>56045698
Bumpin dis

IBM ThinkPad T43
60GB HDD
2GB RAM
resolution 1400 x 1050
battery is fucked
25$. should I get it?

>>56048881
Dude, use the monitor beside you, because that stretch shit it real bad man

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322193605471?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

The inside looks kinda scuffed up. Is it worth picking up?

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>>56044068
What is the point of that keyboard?

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Is the lenovo y510p worth buying?
I'm not a gamer, just looking for a solid thinkpad.


thank you

>>56060370
>wants ThinkPad
>posts non-ThinkPad

Does not compute sweetie...

>>56060423
ok, my bad. but is it worth it?

>>56060444
Can't speak from personal experience but to me it looks like a standard crappy consumer laptop. Nice specs but shitty build quality. If that is what you want, go for it.
Seems to me you, like so many others, don't quite get why we like Thinkpads, Elitebooks and Latitudes. It's not the specs, it's the build quality and ease of maintenance. Basically read OP to see why.

Help. the Msata ssd I installed isn't detected by my os. I can't seem to find it in the disk manager either.
I'm running a T530 with windows 10.

>>56057550
I had the same problem as well but like you said some glue fixed it. Since it's been holding for almost two years now with no problems I guess it the glue solution is ok.

>>56060511
thx

>>56060230

What do ya think? The joos have it, so do the chinks.

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>>56060370
I am typing this on a y510p.

I'll gladly sell you mine. The display is a good enough 1080p and the graphics card is a good enough GT750M but to be honest I am not happy I fell for this meme computer.

Still, if you want it you can have my computer with i7 processor and 1 TB SSHD. How much will you pay for it?

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>>56043665
Didn't want to make my own thread

I need a new laptop for school
>Budget 250$
>Need it within the week or less
>Normal school tasks
>Maybe a little vidya
>Quake live, maybe autism craft if I get bored
>Probably take a crack at higher end games like insurgency, total war Rome 2, CS:GO, Red orchestra
So I know most of the 13" laptops are out and I'd have to go with a 15" one

I don't want to be messing around with much or do upgrades. I want it working out of the box with very little configuring. I won't have time to do that anyway because I'll be opening it in the dorm.

http://notebooksforstudents.org/descriptions_page/description_d630.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Latitude-E4310-i5-540M-2-53GHz/dp/B01DJKP606/ref=sr_1_23?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1471102625&sr=1-23&keywords=laptops&refinements=p_36%3A-25000%2Cp_89%3ADell%7CIBM%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817222011%7C7817224011


Any help is appreciated

>>56059202
>buying things that you dont need
why? if you don't know what to do with it then don't buy it.

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>>56060852
Jew shortcuts?

My thinkpad used to be around 58 degrees celcius when browsing. Now it's around 51 after I applied thermal paste. Is this all the improvement I can expect from new thermal paste?

>>56061429
Probably. Since you didn't mention what model or processor.

>>56061454
T530 with an i5 3230m

I need to buy a new battery for my t520 because the 6 cell one that came with it worked for a month and now barely holds a charge. When it was working I got 2 hours of use out of it on power saver with the brightness at 0, so I'm going to get a 9 cell one. Where's the best place to buy a 9 cell battery? On ebay I could get one for under $20, but people keep saying only buy genuine Lenovo batteries. Does it really matter?

>>56043665

i want to mod bios image with custom image

quick post all your rare pepes

>>56057758
T520's were $199 on eBay awhile back

>>56061479
Now it's reaching 63 just from installing a few updates and a program! Is this normal? I thought Thinkpads were supposed to run cool.

>>56050425
Had to flash whitelisted BIOS, had to get a Broadcom WLAN card.

not that difficult.

Does it matter what SSD I buy to replace the HDD in my T420?

What about RAM?

Im thinking of get a T420, are the screens really that bad?

>>56048425
bump form different anon; I am really curious.

FUUUUUCK!
I've repasted three times today, but the temps are still ridiculous. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong!

>>56062704
Thermal paste probably isnt the cause then. Try cleaning the entire laptop and getting rid of all of the dust.

>>56062704
Your fan is kill then.

>>56062840
>>56062490
Hold on, did you remember to clean and purify the surface every time?

>>56061124
Just curious. What exactly is wrong with it? It looks like a nice machine to me.

I really love my x230 but i got some cheap Asus laptop from my work. It actually isnt half as bad compared to the cheap shitty acers and hp i used to buy when i didnt yet know of cheap thinkpads.

That machine you have looks pretty sweet. Not saying I dont believe you but genuinely curious whats wrong with it.

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>>56062890
Not the other anon, but how do you like your x230?

I'm about to pull the trigger on this. 410 CAD after taxes.

>>56062704
How are you applying the paste? Since it's a bare die, the best way to do it is to spread out a thin, even layer with a credit card or similar implement.

>>56062947
I really like it. Does everything I need flawlessly and the keyboard is really nice (i had a T410 that arguably had a better kb though). The screen is okay and the cpu and gpu are a big step up from the older t410 model i had.

I bought mine as a banger for 200 euros and spend about 200 euro (original lenovo battery, new lid and new bottom case). Its in absolute mint condition now.

>>56062490

Not horrible, but it is a 900p tn panel. You can swap it with the Alienware panel which makes it look better, but still tn.

I have a 1366x768 monitor on my t420, how would I go about upgrading to a higher resolution? is it just as simple as replacing the screen?

>>56061951

Not really, certain ssd are faster than others, but all depends on how much you want to spend, but any is better than an hdd if on a budget. As far as ram just make sure it's ddr3 sodimm. Frequency and clock speed will vary from budget,

>>56063169
Id always get a samsung personally. Theyre fast and consume little poer. Crucial is a great alternative but does use marginally more energy (neglectible though).

>>56063077
Meanwhile it works and i can look at it atleast 3 hours a day i dont mind.

Finding a IPS X220 is rare over here.

>>56063037
That's exactly what I've done. I've repasted four times now. I've tried pea, line thick layer and thin credit card layer.
Temperature stays the same, bar a small difference in a single degree here and there.

>>56061951
Unless you have the T420s any SSD will work.

850 EVO>>>>>>Sandisk SSD Ultra>>>Sandisk SSD Plus>ADATA SP550>>>>>>Not reliable SSDs>>>Kinston SSDs>>>SV300>PNY SSDs>Other noname brands.

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>>56062890

Depends on how much you're paying for it. The price for one. I shouldn't have spent $1k on it. Sort of have a buyer's remorse for that.

I also tell myself I'd take my computer to more places if it was smaller and cheaper. It is mostly a desktop replacement computer for me. I guess I could have just bought a cheaper lappy and a desktop so I could leave the desktop on overnight and stuff because this thing isn't built to dissipate heat nearly as well as I thought it was... leaving it on overnight causes it to heat up.

Also I haven't figured out a way to regulate the fan. I am sure the heat issue would go away if the fan just blew a little harder.

>>56063101
and the cable, that's it.

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>>56043665
I work at a computer shop and someone recycled one of these babies :(

I was not allowed to keep it.

>>56061429
wut, my quadcore t420 idles at 40

>>56057550
do you have parkinsons?

>>56055612
whats this?

>>56063379
new 60-compatible motherboards from some weirdos in china

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>>56063379

It's a modded x61 by the chinks at 51nb

I got x220. I like it. Its good to take it out or use at home with external monitor. Now im wondering if should get one x220 or t420 as a backup. These machines will get more rare i think. What do you think?

>>56063700

I doubt it, the reason they're so cheap secondhand is because companies flood the market with them when they replace them.

>>56063287
Ok thank you, now I understand.

Heat problems always seem to be an issue on consumer models and if yours has it too I can definitely understand why you dislike it.

>>56057573
?
so you're saying disabling it has no effect?

If you have access at the BIOS level and can disable there should be nothing they can do afterwards


I don't know what the mechanics of it being enabled and activated are. What protects someone from disabling it when they have complete access to the BIOS?

>>56063911
Enabled/Not Activated is how it comes straight from Lenovo. If you have BIOS access, you can leave it just how it is or set it to Permanently Disabled. This kills any sort of Computrace service forever.

I'm not 100% on the specifics, but more or less -- if it is Enabled/Activated, then your computer is on the Computrace botnet. It will phone home to Computrace if you allow it any kind of internet access and if it's on the stolen/lost list, a remote code execution will occur that kills the motherboard. Even with BIOS access you are unable to change the Enabled/Activated status without either an unlock code or remote code execution from Computrace removing it from the botnet...at which point it returns to the default Enabled/Not Activated status. Computrace security isn't technically IN the BIOS, it's on a separate security chip. Flashing an updated BIOS doesn't change this either so forget it. If there's some kind of hardware hack for Enabled/Activated Computrace, I'm unaware of it because I haven't bothered to research it and it's likely fairly involved.

IIRC you can get around this by flashing coreboot/libreboot but there are so few supported models and sub-configurations of those models that it's barely worth mentioning.