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http://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-will-force-advertising-on-ad-blocking-users-1470751204

The big boys had enough of adblockers. The cat and mouse tech game truly begins
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good fucking luck

also
>using facebook
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>>56005171
Any major company that doesn't mark ads as such will be fucked hard by the FTC. The age of server blocking might be over but hiding ads (like the original ad blockers) is still, and will always be (unless the US changes its laws) trivial
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>>56005041
When other companies start doing the same thing and wage full scale war against adblockers, what will you do? There is only so much an ablocker can do. Wait until they try to make it illegal to use said products on there domains
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>>56005198
see
>>56005194

>Wait until they try to make it illegal to use said products on there domains
They can try. They'll fail.
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>>56005210
If they can't. It's there website. They can do what they want with it. They don't have to allow you access if your running an adblocker if it's against there TOS. It might not be illegal. But they don't have to allow you access either for using Adblock. Those sites generally don't last long so I don't see what Facebook is trying to accomplish starting a war with adblockers.
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>>56005234
>but they don't have to allow you access for using adblock
They have no way to definitively tell if I am using adblock or not. Any attempt on their part to verify what I have loaded client-side can be spoofed. Trivially.
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>Update filters
Problem solved.
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>>56005282
All they have to do is make there ads first party intrusive like Hulu. If you don't load the ads. You don't get to use there content or the website
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>>56005295
Then people will move to another source of content. Pretty simple
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>>56005295
Block element, select element, done.
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>>56005295
Hulu can technically be defeated - you can block their ads, but you can't skip the time it takes to watch it (so you have a black screen for 20 seconds)
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>>56004981
>Facebook
HAHAHAHAHA
You don't have to go back, you might as well kill yourself right now.
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>>56004981
>delete facebook account
Problem solved.
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>>56005304
>Implying normalfags will give up Facebook
Most people will just comply if they want something

I turned off my adblocker to look at webms on Gelbooru desu
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>>56005325
I would love too but my job REQUIRES me to have one. Shitsux
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>>56004981
>forcing ads to people who block ads

wew
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>>56005330
>I turned off my adblocker to look at webms on Gelbooru desu
Can't you just use ahoviewer? It's a memory hog, but it's fine as far as I know.
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>he hasn't deleted his facebook account yet

Make today the day, lads.
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>tfw your state wants to build an enormous datacenter and supply discounted electricity for these turbokikes
if they go through with it I hope we get bombed asap
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i've been seeing a ton of ads lately wtf.. not FB tho
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>not using m.facebook.com
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>>56005352
I'm so sorry anon. They're too strong, normalfags ruin everything.
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>>56005350
fuck it, i'm doing it

facebook as a platform sucks. it brings out the worst in the people i know
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>>56005386
What the fuck are you even doing here? You should have deleted that shit years ago.
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>>56005434
>What the fuck are you even doing here?
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>>56005386
>it brings out the worst in the people i know
holy shit this. and blocking them doesn't help. just the fact that they have a platform/megaphone to yell into at all times is the problem

i honestly could not give less of a shit about someone's stream of consciousness. there's no thought, it's just like you're tuning into what's going on in their mind, at it all revolves around how much they feel like they "relate" to others about the most vapid shit on earth

and yeah, i get it. facebook isn't a place for "deep" shit or whatever the fuck. i don't care about that either. there's really no place for that on the internet. it's just that it seems that the longer people use facebook, the worse of a person they generally become because their personality, and things they write and post revolve around what will make other people like their post the most.

and i haven't even mentioned the safe space-tier censoring that's been instituted now. you can get banned for posting anything that can be construed as argumentative now
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>>56005333
Why would your job require you to have one? Sounds like the company is shit.
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>>56005606
I'm doing a music course that requires us to have one for all communications and notices
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>>56005632
yeah, i'm at a uni that requires me to have one for software engineering.

protip: i don't. i'm also the top student in my class
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>>56005632
That makes sense, as I suppose it's easier than other ways of doing the same thing.
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>>56004981
>mfw read that as sjw.com
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>>56005514
>just the fact that they have a platform/megaphone to yell into at all times is the problem
He said from his anonymous platform.
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>>56005725
>anonymous platform.
which is objectively better than one where you're identified and chronicled every step of the way
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>>56005725
>>56005359
>>56005346
>>56005261
>>56005198

facecucks have defended this.

delete your account today
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>>56004981
>ad-blocking software
>yfw http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm
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>>56004981
>watching TV
>ads pop up
>get up, go to the kitchen and make a sandwich, by the time I'm done they're over

>listening to the radio while driving
>ads pop up
>change the station with the click of a button

>browsing a site
>ads pop up
>block them
>WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU FUCKING SHITLORD PIRATE THIEF FUCK
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>>56005514
How can you not realize the irony of your post?
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>>56005962
The ad still plays on TV and radio, which is a live stream everywhere and can only be blocked by either ignoring them or changing away from the channel hosting the content you want to enjoy. Meaning that the channel is still showing the ad somewhere, and generating revenue.

An internet ad is only delivered to you if you actively seek a site hosting the content you want, and only generates revenue if the server reports it as "viewed". There is no revenue generate with adblockers.

I'm not supporting it, but using such a brainless fucking comparison isn't acceptable, either.
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>>56006106
>facebook shills on FDC
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>>56004981
Good I want to delete my account anyways.
>mfw my prof is making me have a twitter for a class project.
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>>56005198
I'll just stop using the internet. All I do is shitpost and read wikipedia anyway
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>please answer this question about the advertising you just viewed to continue browsing

This is the future.
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Who here /use Messenger to communicate with acquaintances and avoid the main Facebook feed site like the plague/ master race?

Feels good have self control and also maintain a normie facade
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If they just left the content in the DOM it would be trivial to sidestep this shit
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>>56007614
I'm not entirely against reasonable subscriptions to top-quality things, and as long as they don't Jew on monitoring and data collection etc.

Tbh I already pay for streaming music, a food tracking app and cloud storage. Software and Internet will get treated like how cable TV packages have been. (kinda already is now I guess)
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>>56005234
It's their website but it's my browser. The browser and extensions are merely a lens that you own to view content. The website does not own your browser.
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>>56004981
jokes on them, I don't use facebook
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They've been cocking adblockers for the last year or so. It's only been a matter of time.

Want to see our content? Disable ABP or UBlock. Don't like it? Eat shit.
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>>56004981
Maybe blocking at your router level should work? Obviously it should have a custom OS and plugins for that to analize tier 7 traffic.
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>>56007558
This.
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>>56007820
> cocking
Hehe :p
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>>56004981
>Using Facebook

Nice "social" life you have there. I love it when people say they're social but always sit on their phone on Facebook scrolling through the same shit they've seen 100 times.
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>>56005914
>http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm
Was that site made in 2002? Because holyshit it's bad, and not in a good way
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>>56004981
There's a hidden element to the whole ad blocking "problem". And it's just politics.

It would be trivially easy to cache the ads and then serve them as coming from your own domain. Display them as website.com/img/unique with a back end redirect over to the ad network for that unique. Or from whatever CDN you use, and make them indistinguishable from your own content.

The reason this hasn't happened is because the ad networks don't want to cede control to the big website of what is served. Then the big website gets to veto or censor the ads, which hurts the ad network of course.

Ultimately, host based blocking remains effective because of this.

Greed has made this a rod for their own backs.
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>>56007640
yeah that's pretty much what i do.
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If it gets to the point where adblockers literally don't work (which it won't), I will simply not use websites that take this stance. I already igmore Forbes links even though it would trivial to block their adblocker-blocker if I wanted to. I don't even want to give them the page view, ads or no.

I hope this spurs a new "movement" where some websites purposely conduct business in a way that acknowledges the fact that people don't want ads. Kinda like how GMO and junk food created an opening for people to specifically market their food as "organic".
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>>56004981
>facebook will force ads
Normie shits BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!
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>>56006135
Is there no way to still send the get request but then just replace the area on the screen with a blank square?
I don't have a data cap on my internet so I wouldn't mind, the problem I have with ads is just when they're all in your face and obnoxious.
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>>56004981
>block element
>can't advertise in a missing div
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>>56004981
>"Eyeo GmbH, the company behind popular desktop ad-blocking tool Adblock Plus, accepts payment from more than 70 companies in exchange for letting their ads through its filter."
And they say adblock doesn't hide ads like ublock origin, holy shit.
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Maidsafe boys.

The safe network is the future.

No ads, no tracking, and all the content you can upload, with nobody being able to DMCA it, or try to stop you from viewing it.
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>>56005234
>It might not be illegal.
>post context
>9001% mind-twist

>>56005295
learn to there
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>>56005386
it's jewish

what did you expect
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>>56005606
>all the fag you work with use it for synchronising work development
fuck them
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>>56008074
>Because holyshit it's bad, and not in a good way
that's intentional to block facecucks like yourself from using it
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>>56006135
TV and radio ads don't cost you anything exept time and annoyance

internet ads cost you your bandwith, hardware procesing cycles and the speed at which the site is rendered
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>>56007640
>using Messenger
>master race
pleb
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>>56005198
>Wait until they try to make it illegal to use said products on there domains
Then I'll simply move to a browser without javascript support such as links2 or Dillo.
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>>56005514
i honestly could not give less of a shit about someone's stream of consciousness. there's no thought, it's just like you're tuning into what's going on in their mind, at it all revolves around how much they feel like they "relate" to others about the most vapid shit on earth

and yeah, i get it. 4chan isn't a place for "deep" shit or whatever the fuck. i don't care about that either. there's really no place for that on the internet. it's just that it seems that the longer people use 4chan, the worse of a person they generally become because their personality, and things they write and post revolve around what will make other people like their post the most.

and i haven't even mentioned the safe space-tier censoring that's been instituted now. you can get banned for posting anything that can be construed as argumentative now

Yay, I finally figured out how to copy multiple phrases on my phone!
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I like it when we fuck up shit for the normies.

Imagine this whole thing from their perspective:
>be normie
>Internet is cool, I can use this
>suddenly there is a little bit of ads around the sides
>I don't mind, it's not intrusive
>a while passes, popup ads come in my way
>That's annoying but ok, I guess these people have to advertise
>more and more ads come up in ever more obstructive ways
>HOW DID I DESERVE THIS? I ALWAYS LOOKED AT YOUR ADS?

Meanwhile on our end:
>more ads?
>update lists
>ooh, a new and better adblocker? neat


Fucking normalfags
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I used Fecebook as a news aggregate but I guess now I have to go back to the good old reliable RSS reader.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH5y71hOvk0
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>>56005632
Wow, back in the day we just used our emails
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>>56004981
>The cat and mouse tech game truly begins

This. Facebook needs some kind of uniformity in the ads and adblock will exploit that.
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>>56005234

They can block you but they have no power over what you do with your own machine.

They wont block you however since they make money off spying on you.

They cannot make it illegal to use adblock you are doing what you want with the info they send you.
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>>56005330

Normies are already getting bored with facebook.
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They are all tagged with a line that says "sponsored" on the ads, can't you just make a script that looks for that, and then removes the wrapper and content for that specific text line? Granted it's not a pretty solution, it should work pretty well.
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>>56006135
>seek a site hosting the content you want

I dont have to accept the ad they didnt ask me if I would.

They can block the site if they want and see how that goes for them.
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Ads are a fucking security threat how often have there been cases where the ads delivered malware and the site that had the ads was totally oblivious to it before it was too late and some already were infected?
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You don't even have to rely on just UBO. Install FB purity, it gives you pretty fine-grained control over removing pretty much any element on facebook.

Also this >>56013690 is likely to work because the FTC gets mad if someone pays you to publish something (i.e., advertise) and you don't disclose that. There'll always be a "this is an ad" marker somewhere.
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>>56005330
>turned off adblocker
Just uninstall your adblocker and modify your hosts file idiot. That way most sites won't notice you're blocking ad domains.
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It's too bad we can't also find a way to basically send these trackers "garbage" random data character spit instead of things that say you are shopping for a new lawnmower and toothpaste and like slow walks on the beach. That would really piss them off not being able to use that data.
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>>56004981
>The cat and mouse tech game truly begins
My body and browser are ready for it.

Bring it, advertising giants. Hit me with everything you have.
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>>56005198
When has /g/ ever cared about something being illegal?

>Boohoo, adblockers are now illegal
Yeah well guess what, so are the 4 TB of music and movies I have downloaded

Watch me give a shit
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>>56004981
> forces advertising on users
> users stop using Facebook
> ohshitimsorryplscomeback
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>>56014069
We're watching
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is it the facebook lawyers that took so long to permit the devs ad adblockers

i'd follow a blog with this new Tom n' Jerry shit for adult /g/entoomen
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>>56004981

Block Facebook entirely at the router level.

Problem solved.
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>>5600498
They already fucking do this, it's called promoted posts and it's all fucking over your newsfeed. So yeah, nothing new here..
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>>56011609
I'm pretty sure that if it doesn't have a javascript engine then it's not technically a browser

It would just be a hypertext receiver, sender and viewer
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>>56007614
This is the fucking today, man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solve_Media
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>>56014636
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I hate everyone who uses adblockers. As a developer, adblockers are so frustating. You make no money and people take free shit for granted, they don't even think about the people who develop this stuff. Greedy jews.
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>>56005198
>There is only so much an ablocker can do.
>Anti-Adblock Killer
>FuckFuckAdblock
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>>56004981
Implying we use Facebook.
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>using facebook
>using social media

I have a pretty good social life and I don't use snapchat / instagram / facebook or whatever else people use.

Everyone's just a text or call away, those sites have nothing to do with me actually hanging out with people.

The only useful thing about facebook are event pages.
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>>56014766

Hahahahaha. Suck it.
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Oh shit this is bad, how am I going to watch my neighbor's bikini pics now??
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>>56014766
>puts ads on his products
>thinks he's a good developer
Just fuck off
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>>56004981
>>“Facebook is ad-supported. Ads are a part of the Facebook experience; they’re not a tack on,” said Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, vice president of Facebook’s ads and business platform.

"Part of Facebook experience"

Get fucked Facebook
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>tfw using scripts to detect ad blocking software is illegal in the EU
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>>56005819
I can't. A lot of my friends fely on FB Messenger and use Facebook for organizing events. "Hey, where were you? Didn't you check Facebook???"

I'm fucked
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>>56015129
Since when? And why would it be? They might as well make javascript illegal.
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>implying you can't block the ad frames


Why is this news?
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>>56015141
use a telephone and tell them you are autistic and telephones are easy to use

worked for me. i also talk in a funny voice to make it convincing, kinda like Jacque Clueso from the Pink panther
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I keep getting ads on gelbooru even though I use ublock origin
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>>56015057
I'm talking about apps, anon.
Ads are alot more profitable than just selling it

I have a job, but I also want to make money with my hobby.

Go suck your mothers dick you filthy cumbag.
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>>56015289
Group chats and sharing media are not as convenient with just SMS/MMS. One messaging app my friends use that I can sort of get behind is WhatsApp, but not everyone uses that regularly, instead using Facebook Messenger as their default. It can be a fucking hassle with one people use this and another using the other.

And as far as events go, some people just don't bother to inform you if you're not on Facebook and some still get pissy if you don't know to come to some event. It wouldn't be such a pain if it was just some casual stuff, but weddings and hobby relates stuff is organized there too. Ugh...
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>goybook
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>>56015057
where does it say good developer?
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>>56014213
Watching downloaded anime? Good job, you're learning
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>>56007558
This, and watch anime.

Almost every fucking site nowadays is full of ads and shills disguised as reviewers. It's all about watch this (and pay for it), dress like the cool kids with these newe trends (conveniently placed link to clothing store in the footnotes), watch this super interesting series that is totally not a rehash again (smash that button), new videogame with day one dlc. And so on. I think it's time for me to start living, goodbye internet and thanks for nothing.
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>>56015443

And this is why let websites die that rely on ads.

I want to see the internet go back to the way it way in the late 90s. Preferably with the normies latching on to a new trend that isn't "lOlz g33ks are COOL" and "i'm such a nerd! teehee!!"
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>>56005234
Pretty sure Facebook has enough people tied in to force it down everyones throat, its smaller blogs and news sites who dont stand a chance. Most people acces through the mobile app anyway and couldnt care less about ads.
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>>56015498
I personally don't have a smart phone this is one thing that's gonna such balls the day I finally get one, the bombardment of advertising.
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They'll lose their convenient scapegoat if they do this.

"Our ads aren't generating the expected revenue!"
"It's those accursed adblockers!"

Companies will realize that internet ads are worthless and the entire bubble will collapse, no one will pay you for ads on your site anymore unless you're a major player.
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JEWERBERG
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HE DID IT JEWERBERG DID IT
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>>56008253
That's interesting, hope they keep fucking each other over control.
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>>56014213
>flename
>didnt even slow down my android stock browser from kitkat
Step up sempai.
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>build a userstyle for Facebook via Stylish
>customize UI using strict rules
>Facebook fails again
So what's the issue here?
Also who the fuck uses Facebook? Communication isn't an excuse because e-mail, skype/jitsi/etc., chatrooms, IRC, and other shitloads of communications mediums exist.
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>>56015141
I'm in the same boat. Is there a Messenger client that isn't a nightmare?
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I don't have that rat in my house anyway
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>>56014069
>Implying the party van would prioritize a neckbeard over a high profile lurker
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Been using estiva.org forever and not too long ago I noticed that his adblock lists are not available anymore?
Anyone have a good alternative for lists or know if he moved to another domain?
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>>56005234
>It's there website. They can do what they want with it.
Yes but they can't make it "illegal". Pleb's gonna be pleb and the others will go somewhere else. Everyboy wins.
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>>56004981
>big boys
>facebook
Call me with Google gives a fuck (they don't).
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>>56005234
As long as they use third parties to supply their adverts, facebook at least can not do this, then an adblocker is indistinguishable from a firewall.

Firewalls are perfectly legal.
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Wew lad they are already doing this. Fuck you jewberg.
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Just use email or newsgroups or IRC, it's not hard, idiots.
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>>56018171
How does one into IRC? I've tried it a few times but haven't had any success at finding decent channels. What's the best way to go about finding decent channels, as it doesn't seem practical to lurk in a ton at once and I always seem to pick dead ones?
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>>56014134
> implying people will stop using Facebook

People will keep taking bigger and bigger and more and more heavily barbed strap-ons in their asses with less and less lubricant as long as you do it incrementally enough.
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>>56018239

A channel is only 'decent' if you're interested on it. My channels are very niche stuff and somebody who isn't into it would think they're really boring. If you want something like a general purpose chatroom or whatever, those exist everywhere but they're shit.
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>>56018318
>A channel is only 'decent' if you're interested on it. My channels are very niche stuff and somebody who isn't into it would think they're really boring.
I'm not asking for channels to go to, I'm wondering what the most effective way of finding channels that interest me and aren't dead is, as lurking in more than a few at a time is a pain and that makes it hard to efficiently search for channels.
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>>56018407

Good channels don't exist by themselves, they're always linked to a site/community/project and that's how you find them. I got some of my channels via private trackers, others through translation projects of shady VNs, others from other forums and sites. That's how.
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>>56018162
that's not new. they've been inserting shitpost ads into the feed for months now.
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>>56018601
>I got some of my channels via private trackers, others through translation projects of shady VNs, others from other forums and sites. That's how.
Shit, only channels I've found that way are the /g/ one and the 8 /tech/ one and both seemed pretty dead. Guess I can just join a fuckton of channels that sound interesting, let my computer run for a day, and look at the activity after the fact.
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>it's the year 2030
>wake up at 4am ready for work at Starbucks (gotta pay off that alimony, student loan and reparations somehow)
>your duvet is one big ad for Mcdonalds
>your curtains are an ad for Apple
>your Furby5000 trundles up to your bedside to welcome you with an ad for the latest capeshit
>you drink a verification can, before groggily hailing a self-driving electric car share
>the car tells you about the latest deals on Amazon Prime
>the car stops to let a group of woman in
>you open your mouth to sleepily tell them good morning, but they scream and pepper spray you in the face before darting off
>before you arrive at work you stop off at the local supermosque to pay taqiyya tax
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>>56019066
So it's basically Idocracy? Your clothes are ads, your tv is full of ads, everywhere has ads
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>>56019238
basically. but grimmer.
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>>56015208
It is illegal - they have to warn you about that.
Same thing as with the cookies.
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>>56017040
this
>da40ozbounce
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>>56004981

There are orders of magnitude more determined geeks outside of Facebook that don't want ads than there are geeks working for Facebook.

Shoveling shit against the tide, Facebook is.
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>>56014636
>It would just be a hypertext receiver
>what is a browser
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>>56011609
Javascript is an optional feature. You can just turn it off.
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>>56020385
Browsers that don't even include the code for processing it tend to run faster though. Dillo can load this page in under a second.
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>>56012373
I know this feel
>have normalfag sister
>proud windows 10 user
>desktop is filled with garbage
>can't keep her computer virus free for 2 months
>needs to pay to format it every time instead of trying to fix it herself
>can't into common sense so it always comes back
>doesn't even bother to ask me or my brother for recommendations and shit to keep her computer clean, just continues to torrent shit and use facebook without giving two fucks
its painful to watch
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>>56019066
>2030
>still living in America
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If facebook does something like redirect the ad to be a pseudo first-party hosted ad will they become liable for damages incurred for any delivered malware?
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>>56004981
Jokes on them, they couldn't pay me enough to use their shitty network anymore. I quit that shit a year good.
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>>56020510
same but i quit facebook like 2 years ago. 0 affect on my social life too. you don't need it if you make actual friends
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Let's say the world goes full retard and facebook teams up with google and microsoft to, together, create the ultimate jewish trinity that can bend reality to their will and win any court law

Which countries would literally throw their people under the bus by forcing them to enable ads just because their jewish overlords are telling them to do so? Which countries would put their economy above freedom?

Hardmode: no America
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>>56020532
China, because they can't handle anti-state speech
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>>56020553
>China
Doesn't count because they already do so.
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>>56020532
>Yurop sees 'murrican companies trying to ban ad blockers
>cockblocks them because they hate 'murrican companies
>download ad-blocking software from yurop
>either use it directly or browse through a VPN if they have some draconian monitoring scheme
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So hosts file still reigns supreme in this case, right?
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>>56020913
No. The ads will appear as posts in your timeline, they won't becoming from a separate domain.
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>using facebook

Delete your account today
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>>56008771
Those are optional and can be blocked, ublock origin just lets everything through and masks the ads with a frame.
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If you think this is acceptable, it's too late. You've been permacucked by zuckyzuck.
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>>56021387
>ublock origin just lets everything through and masks the ads with a frame.
Any actual evidence of this claim?
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>>56021402
it's real, and the system is trying to keep me from posting it

look it up on business insider
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>>56021402
Friend: So have you decided what you're going to do about the websites?

Zuck: Yeah, I'm going to fuck them

Zuck: Probably in the year

Zuck: *ear
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>>56021402
facebook shills will suppress this
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Would be so much easier if the companies would simply invest into less demanding ads. I wouldnt even block them if they didnt slow down my browsing experience by like 500% because of all the shit I have to load after turning off ublock.
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>>56004981
Couldn't they just embed CAPTCHA into advertisements? Something like "Please type in Subway Eat Fresh to view this content"?
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>>56021614
That. Will. Never. Happen.
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>>56020532
>Which countries would literally throw their people under the bus
Implying the normies wouldnt willingly do it because some nu male cuck would start to tell them that blocking ads is almost as unethical as assuming the gender of your wives son.
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>>56021622
That already kind of exists in the form of Captcha that makes you sit through an ad.
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>>56015360
The main reason I use an adblocker is because alot of the web is near ununsable without one. Go to forbes.com and you'll see what i'm talking about.
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I block ads on the router level thanks to LEDE
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>>56015141
>>56016609
Use WhatsApp, holy fuck. All you need is someone's telefone number, anyway. So if you're picking up Stacies, it's objectively better to have a whatscuck than a goybook
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>>56021671
what about kik?
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>>56021691
its only used by niggers and pedos
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>>56021700
but the only people I know who use it are asian grills..
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>>56021720
if you like asian girls youre a pedo
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>>56004981
Instead of improving quality of life as human beings, some of the top programmers are working on getting me to visit buzzfeed,
This seriously pisses me off.
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>>56021722
but they're just friends..
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>>56021723
This 5 Year Old Told Trump The Truth About GMOs And You Won't Believe What Happened Next
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>>56005198
>what will you do?
keep the ad server domains forbidden in noscript like i always have done.
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>>56021651
>in the form of Captcha that makes you sit through an ad.
Where?
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>>56021723
>>56021735
When I first met my old co-worker, he told me he read buzzfeed a lot
>immediately knew I wouldn't like him, but I knew I would have to deal with him anyway
he proceeded to tell me a bunch of nonsense:
>saw a guy getting his dick sucked by another guy in the shower at boyscout camp
>didn't tell anyone
>saw a guy getting his dick sucked by another guy in a hot tub on a cruise for boy scouts
>didn't tell anyone
I tried finishing my lunch, but I didn't want to put anything in my mouth anywhere near this faggot
and then...
he told me the dumbest shit I have ever heard.
>my dad works for a cyber security company
>they have a revolutionary idea that will change security forever!!!
>they're making a program that puts a firewall around each file!
It took everything in me to resist not beating the shit out of this guy I was so triggered
>pic related
just thought I'd share that with you /g/uys
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>>56021980
wow, sorry you have to put up with a walking talking meme, bro
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>>56021980
he is willingly putting himself into situations where he is able to see a guy getting his dick sucked. literally no one accidentally sees a guy getting his dick sucked on one, let alone two separate occasions
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>>56004981
All these anti adblock campaigns do is spread adblock awareness even more. What do these retards think they are doing?
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>>56004981
Friendly reminder that normies ruined the internet.
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>>56013717
>Forbes

If they actually do convince ad companies to let them serve first party (ie the ad jpg + link comes from facebook.com or fbcdn.com etc) they are in for a world of hurt.

One malicious ad slips through, bam, you got yourself a lawsuit since they served the ad first-party.

Traditionally sites got around this by saying "oh they're just renting the space, not our problem" but this won't work for first party ads

Anyone else gonna set up some VM's to click on every facebook ad and try to get some sweet class action $$?
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>>56009037
>need to register
>proprietary software needed
>merely proof of concept
>get le coins xDDD

dropped
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>>56022217
Friendly reminder that normalfags should fuck off.
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>using adblock software
>not just blocking ads and other crap via HOSTS
http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm
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:^)

Facebook is an awful website that I only use as a central location with friends who are also using the site as a central location for other friends who are too stubborn to move, likely because they're using the site as a central location for yet another group of friends (I believe they call this concept "social networking"). Best you can do is spend some time looking at your privacy settings and using element picker on your adblocker of choice.

>>56005386
>>56005514
Whether it's on or off of facebook, I always see someone complaining about this. Twitter and other social networking sites have the same issues.

I think you guys just know shitty people or surround yourself with too many. There is no need for an obscenely large list of contacts unless you use your account for business. You won't know most of them, you won't ever even get to make an attempt to. Stop crying and learn how to talk to your friends instead of just sitting around complaining that some evil website changed them on some fundamental level. In reality, you're probably not a very good judge of character.
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>>56022341
You do realize that's the least resistant to anti-adblock measures right?
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>>56022358
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>56022422
:v)
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>>56021818
Usually random download sites. You'll have to watch a very short clip then enter their slogan or something.
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>>56021411
No, because it is a lie and easily disproved.
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>>56022429
>using the smiley with a v nose
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>>56022495
:x)
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>>56004981
Good luck, I'm behind seven hosts files
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>>56005194
>hiding ads (like the original ad blockers) is still, and will always be (unless the US changes its laws) trivial
What? How? How is illegal to serve ads from same host as you serve content from, using URLs that look extremely similar to URLs that lead to content?
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>>56005295
>>56005234
>>56005198
their*
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>>56015443
>goodbye internet
You won't.
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>>56005311
>so you have a black screen for 20 seconds
That's preferable.
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>>56005914
Host files are inferior as they tend to slow all of your shit down because 1: they try to filter every connection, not only the browser ones, 2: it redirects, not just blocks and 3: I doubt that you will ever manually update it.
Also, with a proper adblockers you can include host files.
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I really hope this starts a war. It'll be amazing to see the outcome. You should be excited for this. Facebook is doing it because they're so big and a lot of the users use Internet Explorer with toolbars. So they'll stay regardless.

More websites will follow because they'll think it's safe and they'll quickly get BTFO. This is an amazing thing. This might backfire for Facebook pretty quickly anyways, but if they're doing it to begin with then they're ready. They're probably playing chicken. They know you rely on Facebook so they're trying to see if your family is worth it over the ads.
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>>56023205
>they tend to slow all of your shit down
Stop making shit up, anon.
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>>56023230
I explained why
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>>56023237
Doesn't make for a very good explanation. It is trivial to check if a host is in a dictionary of blocked ones or not - does not incur a noticeable slowdown. You other reason is inane and your last reason is not even related. In practice, there is no noticeable slowdown.
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>>56023253
>It is trivial to check if a host is in a dictionary of blocked ones or not
Sure, but it still causes a slowdown.

>You other reason is inane
This is the most important reason actually, redirection to a resource that does not exist is slow as hell.

>and your last reason is not even related
I put it there by mistake
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>>56023274
How is it slow as hell? How is it slow to try to connect to localhost, receive your connection refused immediately and be done with it?
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>>56014766
As a developer, I create and host things for free. With no ads. I think about the people who will end up using my stuff. Adblockers/noscript/etc are practically a requirement when there are malicious ads and plenty of day-0 exploits waiting to happen.
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>>56014766
Webkike btfo
You are not a developer
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>>56020411
>Dillo can load this page in under a second.
Too fast.
I wouldn't even notice it loaded and just be confused.
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>>56015360
Every sane person will always block ads you nigger. You already get 1 cent per download on your shitty app don't expect anything more on an ad infested app.
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>>56023287
This. Connecting to an actual ad provider is much slower so it doesn't matter as long as you block them. And unless you have a shit connection you won't notice anything. Blocking ads from a hosts file is better imo since it doesn't limit you only to the browser and doesn't require an additional app to block ads on the go.
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>>56019238
>idiocracy
Shit, I always thought it was from the Back to the Future flick.
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56004981
>say goodbye to your ad blockers
More like say goodbye to websites like Facebook. Those bastards aren't forcing me to do shit.
>>
When was the last time you actually saw something on an advertisement, and thought, hey, I should buy one of those!

When was the last time you heard the same fucking advertisement for the 5th time in an hour, and thought, fuck that fucking company I'd rather die than buy their shit


How does it fucking work? What retards are falling for this shit over and over and over?
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>>56020838
>Europe
>hating American companies
>yet this close from signing TPP
Uh-huh.
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>>56023486
Most of the shit I see there is something I already bought or Googled earlier and thought not to buy it. The ads do nothing for me.
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>he hasn't deleted his facebook account yet

>>56021402
this
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>>56020450
Whenever I have somebody like this I teach them to do it themselves and if they don't pay attention and listen to what I have to tell them, they aren't allowed to have me cart my ass over to their house and spend 2 hours fixing their computer for free.
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>>56020493
By the sound of it, yes, but im sure they have some stupid loophole they will pull out of their ass the day they accidentally fuck 10,000 people's machines.
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>>56023621
You are still getting your ass rammed by retards here anon, if you don't get something out of it and it happens more than once you let them wallow in their own shit
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>>56023640
Im heavily considering changing my policy to $5 / hour, or you buy dinner the night I come to fix it.
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>>56022877
(Not OP) Not completely. However, I will just visit fewer and fewer websites. As long as I can access Wikipedia, 4chan, and some private trackers I could care less what happens to the rest of the internet.
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>>56023669
Sounds comfortable. I'd do it if I weren't a sucker for youtube channels.
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>>56015443
south park did it first
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>>56023656
Mine's $50 for the first hour and $10 for each additional hour. I recently dealt with a laptop that was a fucking bitch to work on and changed it to that to deter people. Now I either don't have to help or I get $50+, it's a win/win
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>>56023697
Are people really so fucking retarded they cant google "backup photos" and "how to factory reset" pc, that they would spend half a days wages for someone to do it every few months?
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>>56023726
You seem to underestimate the stupidity of the average person. The guy who was the deciding factor for this charge had me wipe his laptop for him, after various issues that turned it into so much more of an ordeal than it should've been I got it set up with a fresh install and within hours he ended up with the same virus. He then proceeded to buy a new laptop and give me his old one, on which I reinstalled Windows yet again and sold for $200 online.
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>>56023697
I don't do this for a living though, those are just my rates for family and friends.

If its a coworker or something like that I'll just do a flat rate of $30.

People complain but i'm almost half the price of every computer store within 15 miles.
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>>56020450
make her suck your fukcing dicks
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>>56023726
It's not as simple for a person who is not very good at computers as you think. He's afraid to break his device so he can't find and follow some random guides he might find online.
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>>56023800
>I don't do this for a living though, those are just my rates for family and friends
Same here.
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>>56023832
Reminds me of any older people
"Oh your generation is so technically literate!"
>Literally just Googled the error code and followed the spoon-fed instructions for how to fix it.
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>>56023682
Youtube is a solved problem, anon. An RSS-reader, Youtube-dl and mpv together remove any need to visit the site itself and improve the overall experience.
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>>56023991
How would I see suggested videos?
How would I watch them on my tablet without having to do any prior actions on my desktop?
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>>56024055
>suggested videos
You don't
>watch on tablet
Copy link, paste into video player
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Who told normies about ad blocking? That's the only reason we're forced to deal with this. Maybe it should've been harder than simply installing a browser extension/add on.
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>>56024111
>You don't
You are mistaken about that. I do.
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>>56024116
Neat
>>
>Use Facebook without logging in.
>It keeps pestering you to do so or sign up and hides content from you.
>Youtube keeps fucking over it's users and content makers while raking in their Ad money.
>Google is giving Jews a bad rep.
The big companies need to die, I'd give my first born to watch Facebook's data centers burn with Zuckie boy inside.
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>>56005914
>>56008074
>>56022341
https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts
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Like Kevin 3 on Facebook
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>>56023352
Fucking lol
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>>56020450
Pics of sister
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>>56014636
>it's not technically a browser
>It would just be a browser
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>>56021980
Yeah the first thing I get a new coworker us tell them about the times ive seen guys getting their dick sucked by other guys too. Sounds like a pretty good dude.
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>>56020450
Imagine your sister using XP back in the day. It wouldn't survive 2 days.
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>>56020450
Pics?
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>>56004981
>using Facebook
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>>56021671
>don't use Facebook
>use Whatsapp instead

Zuckerberg always wins.
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>>56025903
>using social media at all
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>>56004981
i will literally break any site and read it plain text to not have ads.

i dont care that some faggot runs a business and i don't need to know, i don't care about them. hope they go bankrupt and die.
>>
>Having Internet Social Life instead of Actual Social Life

baka desu senpai.
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>>56005295
>>56005234
>>56005198
Go.
Back.
To.
Elementary.
School.
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>>56023486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkHZ5zfcgs
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>>56020450
lol fucking normalfags

I hope the ads fuck them so hard that their pc hardware explodes and burns everyone down
>>
Literally already wrote a small script to hide the sponsored ads they show on my feed. It's simple so they can do what they like.
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>>56004981
How does anti-adblock detection work?

Surely this "cat and mouse" game would just end up with sandboxed adblocks that don't allow the website to realise there is an adblocker installed and just prevent the ad from being rendered by the browser. Or am I missing something here?
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>>56024055
If you're on Android, there's Newpipe on fdroid. It's pretty barbones, but it works.
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>>56005198
>what will you do
same as I do now, all I do is shitpost here, browse torrents and maybe youtube
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>>56005330
gelbooru.com#@#center > div[style]
gelbooru.com#@#[style^="background:"]
gelbooru.com#@#span > [class][style]
gelbooru.com#@#center > div[style*="overflow:"]
gelbooru.com##center > div[style*="width:1000px; overflow:hidden"]

Should fix the bullshit gelbooru is doing for the time being
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>>56027740
eventually articles will just be giant images with ads spliced within
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>>56005198
I'll read books and watch my video collection.
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facebook.com##div[id^="hyperfeed_story_id_"]:has(a.uiStreamSponsoredLink)

Problem solved
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>>56014036
homo
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>>56005330
>Implying normalfags will quit MySpace
Normies have no allegiance, they are the worst fan base, they might shill and defend their shit but when the chips are down they are too lazy and don't really care, they will just migrate to whatever is new and flashy.
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>>56005330
normies have been giving up on facebook for a while now. it's literally for 3rd world poorfags, old people, and straight up idiots (even by normie standards) these days. all the hip kids are on non-facebook social-media apps and games that are more specialized. no one wants to waste time looking at people's shitty pages.
>>
Couldn't you like, download the base html file, and then in the local copy in your browser remove all links to the ads, and then continue to download the legit normal files (pictures, videos, etc)?
I guess the problem with this would be determining what's an ad and what isn't
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>>56030880
Nah angry nerds are the worst fanbase. They contribute little and oftentimes outright steal services and products then complain like they paid full price.
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>>56021728
Did you send them pictures of your massive COCK?
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>>56023503
If we didn't hate them the deal would already be signed.
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>>56031225
Thank you for your contribution, Pajeet!
$0.02 has been deposited into your PayPal account.
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>>56021671
I do use it. It can be a lot messier for event organizing though, when people spam off topic crap in the group convo.

Also, your friends, event planners/organizers and whatnot have to use it too, it's not just a matter of me switching apps.
>>
I don't use facebook I always assumed it had somany users that adblocking didn't really hurt their revenue. Or do they just want more money?
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>>56005198
That's something that has bothered me for years. I don't know shit about shit, but won't the powers that be bring down the hammer the moment ad blocking gains too much momentum?
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>>56031910
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>>56005194
You know, I would have no problem with ads if they were billboard ads
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>>56029006
why do these sites bother when their userbase is literally 90% people who hate that bullshit and know how to stop it.
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>>56031910
Well, they are a business, so if this brings in more income than they'll lose with worse UX, of course they're going to go for it.
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>>56007640
I use pidgin + facebook-purple plugin tbqhfwy
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>>56032161
Because most of the people don't. The changes were made a couple days ago and I couldn't find a fix for it anywhere yet so I had to learn how to make this shit and do it myself.
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>>56005330
>>Implying normalfags will give up Facebook
>Good news users! Facebook will now start charging a 10$ monthly fee to access our quality website and services!
>Act now and you'll get 50 cents off this incredible value! We'll even cut the amount of sponsored content you receive in half!***
>1 Year later
>Facebook is a barren wasteland
>Myspace.com has seen a small surge in users and the up and coming AttnHore.com is gaining millions of users a day
Facebook is nowhere near as invincible as they think they are, all that's missing is a lack of better alternatives. Charging money are fucking the costumers too much will result in the devaluing of their website.
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>>56007640
Messenger is about 200 times more invasive than the desktop site.
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>>56004981
Time for hackers to wage war on that hellhole and make them back down
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>>56005386
I'm being as sincere as possible right now
Please, get the fuck off /g/. If you have a Facebook you are simply too stupid to be here and you are the reason this boards quality is in the fucking toilet.
>I don't know if i should delete my Facebook, convince me guys
Fuck you and fuck off, you know nothing about technology, we shouldn't have to tell you why Facebook is fucking cancer. You should have known better for years.
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>>56032514
t. friendless, familyless shut in
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he gets his "news" from facebook
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>>56034836
> facebook "friends" are friends
> doesn't have a down ass crew off the grid
nigga you's a fool
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>>56032514
fag
>>
>They can block you but they have no power over what you do with your own machine.

This is less and less true. Sure YOUR machine is probably safe, and mine too, but for the larger internet culture, hardware ownership is changing to a subscription model. Then they can do whatever they want - just pay Verizon or Samsung or Lenovo or Microsoft or whoever it is to block ad blockers.

Google already does it on Android, it's not hard to imagine where it's going.
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>>56005198
>being a facecuck

kek suicide is YOUR only option
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>>56023306
> day-0
> Me say day-0
> Daylight come and

It's 0-day. You definitely sure are a developer.
>>
https://adblockplus.org/blog/oh-well-looks-like-facebook-just-got-all-anti-user

https://adblockplus.org/blog/fb-reblock-ad-blocking-community-finds-workaround-to-facebook
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>>56035230
I have an adblocker on my android phone and it works great.
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>>56004981
Just disable JS :^)
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>>56023486
Muh brand awareness. Muh getting a product into a person's head.
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>>56004981
127.0.0.1 facebook.com
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>>56005194
>its piracy to not pay my server fees for me
>it costs over 6 gorillion shekels to host a website goy
>it doesnt matter if you dont want a riced out webpage that uses nonstop bandwith, its 2016!
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>>56013882
>Install FB purity, it gives you pretty fine-grained control over removing pretty much any element on facebook.
can it remove the users?
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>>56014134
says google users in 2005
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>>56014766
>As a developer,
You mad you couldn't cut it as a programmer?
Not my fault that all you do is pump out riced out websites.
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>>56015360
>but I also want to make money with my hobby.
Funny, I keep money for a hobby :)
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>>56015969
This. I want someone to post something that will actually crash my browser.
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>>56016345
whats a good skype alternative I can make plebs use?
skype is shit tier and the automatic gain control wont turn off and makes screeching noises for other people when I dont talk every 5 seconds.

I need voice, video, text, and ftp..
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>>56020385
Thanks to idiot web developers nothing works without java and flash player now.
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>>56004981
GOOD. Host ads on your own server, see what happens when YOUR server is a major vector for malware and you do nothing to stop it.
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>>56021980
I had a coworker tell me about how he built a computer that has over a terrabyte of ram.
Dude lied about shit nonstop the whole time he was there. I know there was no computer.
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>>56037448
HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL
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>>56005311
but how do you tell ads and content apart?
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>>56005307
good luck doing that for spotify and youtube
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>>56037915
Then we just make something new and make all the plebs use that instead.
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>>56023407
>>56005914
ublock is superior for ad & annoyances removal, as you can also have cosmetic removal(in addition to the usual network filtering), which is occasionally necessary, such as when the ads are served from the same server as the content(some sites do this). Also, you can personally block site elements if you don't like them. It's rather useful for example on wikia which has these annoying "check out our other wikis" and other stuff.
>>56021387
>>56008771
>ublock hides ads rather tahn blocking the requests
you do realize you're shilling against uBlock free?
you can easily verify this yourself, right click, inspect element, network tab
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>>56022104
>browse SFW board on 4chan for a year
>see guy getting his dick sucked
pretty sure it happened more than once
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>>56011609
>>56020385
>browsing the web without javascript
then how are you going to post here?
or on any other site, for that matter
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>>56037588
dunno, should be better than a png but doesn'T seem to be
got more coming
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>>56005234
>there

Jesus Christ. Neck yourself, you illiterate cunt.
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>>56013981
this already happens in some cases, i'm sure random data isn't hard to filter from legit data
>>56012373
if they really tried they could make it very hard to remove ads
>update lists
shows your ignorance
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>>56018721
>let my computer run for a day
if you have a VPS use a bouncer
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>>56023856
>1.open system control panel
open what? some kind of system control panel?
i can't find a button like that on my desktop...

you're underestimating yourself anon.
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>>56026607
>read it plain text
>content is loaded by js
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>>56027740
>hash the displayed website(DOM)
>sand hash to server
>refuse services if the hashes aren't ok
that's one approach, note that this is a simplified version that would hit several issues in reality, but the approach would work.
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>>56031112
that's what's being done right now, there are various blacklists made by people, which uBlock and ABP let you choose. By default there are a few lists selected.
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>>56039047
Til you block the script sending the hash.
The serving articles as images is more practical.
Or not sending the article until the ads are loaded.
But that won't stop hiding.
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>>56007685
That's what it seems like they will be doing. Just use the DomMutations API to see what they are up to and block the ads. gg fuckbook
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>>56039149
>refuse services if the hashes aren't ok
then the website only serves you a message to remove your adblocker inplace of the content
as in, the request for content.html returns something else. You need to pretend to load everything(obviously) but replace the javascript with your own that simply sends the correct hash everytime.
see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y3K83sOnG8
for techniques like that in a positive context.
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>>56039198
Ah, so send empty content with ads essentially, get hash back that it loaded, and then send the real content?
I see, I misunderstood, that'd work, but still not too hard to hide.

Alternatively, article screenshots like what happens with kotaku and gawker articles becomes more of a norm, with the ads gimped out.
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>>56005514
>things they write and post revolve around what will make other people like their post the most

I spent a week or so checking out facebook and found everyone to be fairly despicable. Then I saw my list of friends without posts and I realized I liked and loved everyone on their there they're. I then realized it was the posts like-button behaviors that were despicable.
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