/pcbg/ - PC Building General

To kick things off, here's my friend's full desk setup from scratch:
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKHNPs

i5-6500
$90 b150 board
212 Evo for silence (compared to a stock fan)
16gb ram for muh programs
250gb samsung SSD + 1tb HDD
Gtx 1060
Nzxt S340 + 2 case fans.
Corsair RmX 550w Gold - modular.

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>>56004714

Ultracompact entry level VR build and general gayming + video editing + home media control

Power supply will change from corsair 'cause I heard some bad things about them

>>56005485
Add a 1tb hdd into that puppy and you're good to go honestly. It's almost impossible to find the nitro 480 but if you got it, hey great man.
The mini gtx 1060 is easier to find though, and can be had for $249, which is actually cheaper than the 480 nitro.

I want to upgrade my card and I'm deciding between a RX 480 or a 1070/1080. Which one would be the better buy and why? I'd like it to help with video rendering mostly.

>>56006433
480 is better price to performance, not great thermals.
1070 is more money but a much higher rate of performance. If you're not sure you need a 1080, your probably don't need a 1080.

>>56006466
I see. I'll aim for the 1070 then. I'll probably go with EVGA as well unless there's something else I should know.

Thank you for the helpful answer.

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Since the thread is slow, and the last one 404-ed, I'm going to pose a big of a challenge.

I'm attempting to make a list for a potential build with a 1070 and 6600k combo for 1440p high/ultra settings gaming. I want to clock the cpu to only about 4.2 or 4.3 ghz. Cpu cooler must be at least slightly better than the 212 evo, and the cryorig H7 seems to have disappeared off the market.

I want it to be themed all white and black. Being in the $1000+ range, it must include at least a semi-modular power supply with black cables, and the case must have sturdy construction and airflow, though the need to add case fans is acceptable (see Nzxt s340).

Who thinks they can put together a better list than this for cheaper? Assume the ssd is already purchased.

>>56004714

Could some kind europ-anon recommend me a relatively cheap >100hz >24inch1440p monitor? Shipping and import fee is pushing the 300$ ones to >400€...

Bros, just upgraded from a gtx 660 to a r9 fury for $300. Did I do alright? My pessimistic friend said I wasted money when I should have just bought an rx480.

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>>56007989
For 300$ it was a good deal

>>56006723
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF1H68938&cm_re=cryorig_r1-_-9SIA4UF1H68938-_-Product
Get this while it's still on sale.
One of the best coolers you buy can get unless you go custom water loop.

>>56008443
Yo thats a pretty damn steep discount. What about the rest of that list ? I was imagining somebody making a whole new one and saying "no this is better. "

>>56007989
Slightly better than a 1060 iirc. You did fine. Hope your power supply is beefy though.

Where's everyone at? This was super active a couple days ago.

>>56010814
It's nothing spectacular to see here and they probably don't like to repeat themselves.

I'm pretty much waiting on pulling the trigger for my build until the Rx 480 nitro releases, but I have no idea when what do.

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I'm looking to buy a 1060 for my first PC build and they're very hard to come by where I live. I've come across this card which is available now and within my budget, but the design scares me. Every other 1060 I find has 2-3 large fans spanning the entirety of the card. Is this not going to lead to poor ventilation or is this some engineering feat?

>>56012507
It blows air out the back of the card to prevent heat getting into the rest of the computer. Temps are usually a bit toasty but it will be pretty much the same as Founder card

>>56012561
Oh cool, thank you very much. I'm so tempted to bite the bullet and order it now.

Need a new case, is the Corsair 300R good?

>>56004821
>gb
RAM is measured in GiB
>>56004821
>gb
Drives are usually measured in GB

Daily reminder that gb != Gb != GB != GiB

>>56012897
don't, never by a reference card.

$100 http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xv7PP6
$150 http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QdzzNN
$200 http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdZZZ8
$250 http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LGtnLD
$300 http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTtnLD
$350 http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTtnLD

which and why?

This is the third time I've asked /pcbg/ but I haven't have anyone r8 my list. So I'll ask again before I just buy the parts for my build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4MYn7h

Gaming, Media Consumption, Streaming, Audio Production, Autodesk and Solidworks (I have a habit of multitasking.)

I have an SSD, but I plan on adding more SSDs and HDDs for RAID. Would I need a RAID controller or can it be done on the Mobo?

I have an 34" 21:9 1440p monitor. And I may go 4k if they come in 21:9 in the future.

>>56007193
Bump

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any reason why my computer wont start up on a cold boot until i remove and replace my ram?

the build i have

>>56013338
I can't really find a better alternative where I live that doesn't have $70-$100 slapped onto it for the funnies. Plus any 480 I can find looks exactly like this card anyway.

>>56013339
Seems really good. I don't know tooo much about x99 platform, but that's a nearly top of the line build. Every x99 machine I've ever seen had all 8 dimms populated though. You could do 8 x 4gb if you want. Imagine this is for all the production stuff, and multitasking as you said.
Broadwell-E just released, any interest in that?

>>56013436
just hold out until supply catches up with the demand and prices will stabilize. Or pull the trigger and have buyers remorse when AIB's are cheaper. Prices are fucked everywhere at the moment. Your dosh though that card will do the job.

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>Buying parts over the next couple months for a new 1080 build
>Ship one of these sexy beasts from Bongland to Indianapolis
>Based Overclockers UK ships it in 2 days and it beats my Newegg package that shipped from Kentucky by a day

Damn good business they're running over there.

>>56013339
seems overkill and pricey for an outgoing socket. I would think a 1151 quad with ht would be plenty. That mobo had raid 0,1,5,10, you prob could've looked that up on asus' site

>>56013431
kinda would like to be able to shut down my computer once in a while, thank you...

Not sure which mobo to get. Requirements:

>skylake
>h170 or better
>m.2
>dvi
>6 usb, at least 4 usb 3.0
>under $120

Preferably NewEgg (going to be getting other parts from them) or Amazon (I have prime).

This one seems suspiciously cheap: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157635

Any reason not to get it?

I also found this one, which is a bit pricier but has usb 3.1: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Solution-Z170A-Motherboard-PC/dp/B0131GA4VE

Can you guys recommend a mobo for me?

Are those E5-2670 usable for 1080p/60fps gaming? On paper they are, but I'd like some input fromsomeone who has one.

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>>56012507
Where do you live? I ordered pic related for my first build as well, friendo. It costs 289€ and it should be available by August 23rd here where I live.

Is Xeon E3-1231 V3 still boss as fuck? would you recommend building around one still?

>>56014000
I live in Ireland. I've seen those cards but I'm a bit apprehensive of something so small. Is this me being an idiot?

Is it worthwhile to go from an i7 920 to an x5650?

>>56014446
The card I linked is the cheapest custom version from EVGA, which is called Evga 6 GB Gaming. Even though it's small, it should be fine.

>>56013457
>>56013602
Under further review and consideration, I decided to switch to the Z170.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TVv3Z8

>>56014883
What's the difference between the asus Z170 A and Pro?

I've finally broken down and decided to build a PC, mainly for light browsing, and MMO and RTS gaming
I have done a little research and asking around and have pretty well locked down my build, except for the Graphics card and I'm leaning toward the nvidia 1070
the rough list:
Intel i5-6600k
Asus 710 mobo
16gb DDR4 RAM(still haven't decided on a specific set because RAM is RAM right)
that Cyro h7 fan everyone on this board talks about
corsair 750watt power supply
maybe the fractal R4 case
256gb Samsung evo 850SSD+ 2tb sandisk HDD
[spoiler]is it shit? I feel like its shit[spoiler]

>>56015025
get a z170 with a k cpu for oc or skip the k. psu is comically oversized for an apu setup. resty looks fine

intel 530 igpu isnt so great the a8-7600 has a stronger r7 igpu and it's only $70

>>56013431
ram settings in bios? xmp probs,o/c?

>Bought Zotac 970 cause decent price in eurobucks
>Install it into my rig
>temps under full load 86° with one exhaust, didn't have more yet
>deeplyconcerned. png
>install noctua fans all over the place
>swap the thermal paste
>load temps at 79° and the whole damn card heats up, not just the heat sink
>custom fan curve, no help

Card is less than a month old btw.

Should I try something to further cool it or just RMA the fucking thing?

>>56015278
>Z170
thats what I meant not a 710, I'm just retarded

>intel 530 igpu isnt so great the a8-7600 has a stronger r7 igpu and it's only $70
alright you've lost me here, this just went over my head, I assume you're recommending a different processor

>>56004714
where can I get a CPU that isn't running off of x86 but rather something like MIPS, PPC or OpenRISC, SPARC is obsolete to me and where can Ifind a powerful one

What would anyone recommend as a trading PC where I want 4-6 screens plugged into it. Processor, Mobo, Ram, GPU etc etc. Not HFC but intra day trading. I would also like to be able to play Company of Heroes 2 on high settings if possible.

It would be good if I could use my i7 2600k if anything. But not limited to. Thanks.

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What mobo to get for a mid/high tier gaming build with a 6600k?

Can't decide between the Asus Z170-A or the Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3

>>56014938
The A has PS/2 port and what looks like VGA, while the PRO doesn't, which doesn't matter since I have no need for either, 6x SATA 6 Gb/s(PRO) vs 4x, higher DDR4 OC on the PRO and aesthetically the PRO board is black rather than black/brown (-A) which reviews say looks terrible. That's what I have atm. There's only a 30$ delta between them.

>>56015863
Depends, what are you going to be trading? Equities? FX? Commodities?

What sorts of products? Swaps, futures, options, something more exotic?

>>56014551
Damn, now I'm really torn. This'll be the most money I've spent in a long time and I really want to make sure I get it right.

Folks, should I get:
The Asus reference 1060 at >>56012507
or the EVGA small custom 1060 at >>56014000
?

>>56016646
Can't you just order something from the UK?

>>56016661
I can do since I'm in driving distance of someone who lives to the UK, but prices still seem pretty marked up. Overclockers seems like a good bet, but they still seem a bit steep. The exception seems to be the small custom 1060s and the Asus reference card I linked.

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>>56016713
single fan custom is still miles better than a reference cooler.otac Mini is the same price here as well (250 usd)
>>56015604
igpu=integrated graphics, I didn't see a gpu (video card) in your build. Intel has the stronger cpu but weaker gpu. Amd a10 78xx are less powerful but have better graphics. fm2 is a dead socket though, the 845 was prob the last new cpu

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>>56017005
shit wrong image

>>56006433
>deciding between a RX 480 or a 1070/1080
Those aren't even in the same league, mate.

I'm >>56014000, this is my build for doing daily work and playing fps games on Asus VG248QE (1920x1080, 144 Hz) : http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/tYHGqk
I haven't bought anything but the video card so far. Mobo is cheap but it has all I need. Extra fan is for the top of my case, since it's not a very big case, I want to create a good airflow inside it, so that gpu and cpu don't heat too much. No aftermarket cpu cooler because I don't mean to overclock cpu. SSD is expensive but I know it's the best sata III, then why not spending more money on it?

>>56016629
I trade futures. EUR/USD, GBP/USD, ES, NQ & Crude.

How's this looking so far?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bQ6Dcc

>>56014000
So cute
>>56016646
Evga
Google step up evga and ejaculate

>>56013339
You can go less on the processor for what your doing, that shit ran 3 titans back in the previous 1000 series days

>>56013662
Check on overclockers. Brits have a good game running and delivery is fast as fuck

>>56015433
Yes rma it, something is very wrong. Make sure its plunged in properly though. Atx power cables and pcie connection.

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Got a Dell and everything is non standard shit. I want to replace the firepro but there's no power connector for a gpu, but there's some 8pin connector with vga2 written next to it. Do I simply need to buy a cable for this, or can I simply buy a new psu? 425w is not that satisfying with a power hungry Xeon. The mainboard connector seems to be the same as atx.

do you guys ever update the bios for your mobo?

>>56017063
My bad. I don't know too much about graphic cards since I don't really keep up with the news about them. That's why I asked.

Just bought a 760 from my friend for 250, but now I need to build a PC. Would you guys recommend an i7 or i5 to start with?

where the hell can you get a CRYORIG H7 that's in stock?

Hey guys this is my first build ever so I know that I messed up somewhere. Here's the link:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4mxHzM

My intention while making this build was to make a workstation for my programming tasks, while also creating a build strong enough to handle low level games for the next few years (Think CS:GO, RS3, Overwatch).

My budget is $1600, so there is some wiggle room for smart upgrades. I would really like to see improvements to the build quality if possible since I don't know much about the quality of the parts besides what their price implies and I would like this system to go about 5 years before needing an upgrade.

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alright lads i'm gonna eat a bullet unless I can definitively pick my build.

here's what I thought I'd do

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3NxXvV

see the 1060 in there

but then i see this shit today
https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-XG2401-DisplayPort-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B01A0ZRR50
which appears to literally be the best monitor available in the $250 range

but it's freesync

should i get this monitor and swap my build for a 480? is there another monitor out there that i should get instead and stick with the 1060?

PLEASE respond before i end my life

>>56019617
250 usd? Your friend is an asshole

>>56020458
That's a Matte screen monitor, which are not very good. You want a glossy monitor for vibrant and more accurate colors. That said, there are better ones out there than ViewSonic (benq)

Anyway. I'd stick with the 1060.

>>56020501
well he said it's the 750 TI and I heard TI cards are extremely pricey, why is he an asshole?

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>>56020557
a 750ti is a ~$100 card brand new

>>56020533
do you have a recommendation other than just a brand? like a specific model that is better than the viewsonic?

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Can you rate my build /g/? I'm trying to build a decent gaming PC.

>>56020557
You got an old, slow, low end card for more than double it's price from Newegg if it was new.

any idea when the H7's are going in stock or where I can pick one up?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kjjHzM so this what I want to build. .. I haven't built one in years, any suggestions for my build or building.

>>56017690
get a moltex to 8pin adapter
>>56015902
Gigabyte lasts longer than asus

but asus has better sound and ports

I went gigabyte and asrock because they last and last and you are planing to OC so its gigabyte for you just don't touch the pins on

LGA on the Mobo One of mine almost broke off when i was correcting a pin.

picrealted.

What are the differences between the rx470 and 480? 480 is out of stock everywhere and I just want one of these two cards.

>>56020774
You need DDR4 memory

I've purchased everything except for my video card. I've spent $450 so far and I'm going with an fx9590.

I would really like to be able to pay my rent this month so recommend me a good card I can buy next paycheck. I want top-tier performance but not toppest-tier.

>>56017216
>"literally who" brand SSD
>seagate
>paying retail prices for windows
>replacing perfectly good case fans
>60hz monitor
>paying that much for a squishy rubber dome keyboard because muh gaming
>logitech speakers

>>56020403
Looks alright if you plan on gaming at 1080p. No single card will handle 4k at a steady 60fps. Consider multiple monitors instead. Get a bigger hard drive, the price increase isn't that much.

>>56020557
Please tell me that's not in USD. If it is, shove the card up your friend's ass and take your money back.

>>56021342
Please tell me you're not serious. If you are, consider a workstation instead. Also there's no need for a separate sound card and NIC. If you feel the need for better sound quality, get a USB DAC instead. That cooler isn't any better than a good air cooler, get one of the dual-fan units if you want one of the closed-loop coolers, or for the amount of money you're dropping on this build you could get a full water cooling setup.
>all that money on overkill parts
>only 16gb of ram

>>56021619
>fx 9590
>can't pay rent easily
you kinda fucked up unless you got it for an insanely good price. I hope you have a good power supply and also cooler to go with it.

>>56014464
Depends on the price, but on paper it is.
http://ark.intel.com/compare/47922,37147

>>56021827
Sometimes utilities are included in the rent. Sometimes.

hey /pcbg/, could you recommend me a case and motherboard for my wip build?

I need something compatible with an RX 480 and i5 skylake. Preferably Mini ATX. I have an SSD and PSU already. ty.

What is the possibility of building my own laptop? I already know desktop grade laptop form factor mobo's exist and so do full desktop GPUs. I realize I would probably need my own CNC / way to make a molding.

>>56021959
Too much work and money for what you'll get out of it. Look at what sager and clevo make, then see if you can do anything better.

>>56021897
It's not just about the power draw, that thing makes a monstrous amount of heat and you need a good, stable, motherboard for it that can support overclocking, since it's essentially an fx 8350 with a dialed in OC already. The amount of money you'd spend, when you can get a 6600k and dial it to 4.4 on a cheap ass z170 boartd and heatsink is just not worth in any way shape or form.

>>56021405
>>>56017690
>get a moltex to 8pin adapter
But there is a 8pin connector why do need to get an adapter?

>>56021827
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VjFgtJ

I think I got a good price on everything. I'm going to use an old GTX560 until next paycheck or two and then buy a video card. I'm just wondering what I should get.

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>>56022314
Best poorfag video card is probably rx 470, you can probably find it for under $200 usd. Sometimes as much as $180 (msrp) its more in stock than the 480 at least.
Or find a refurbished Gtx 960 / R9 380.

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Is this the best price to performance one can get for 1080p? Assuming you can get a nice OC on the i3, will that be shitty in a couple years? I imagine a build like this would perform in pretty much every game except Witcher 3, and maaaybe not great in GTAV. Would and i5 6500 be better for price-to-performance? You save on the chipset and cooler, but the base cost will still be a little higher.

>>56022376
Why would I get an aircooled i5 when I could get the toppest of tier AMD chip (at the moment) with a watercooler for the same price? Not to mention the mobo you chose is lightyears behind the one I got (again, for the same price)

>>56023109
>watercooler and AMD
>why get an i5

Jaysus, mate. I spilled my cup of mustard all over the keyboard.

>>56023109
https://youtu.be/9NNwSDPo1Dg
Because the 6600k at stock clock speed kicks it's ass in literally every task except a bit of rendering. But you don't leave a 6600k at stock speeds, even with a cheap stock cooler like the cm212.

>>56023305
>>56023312
>i5 is better because gaymes!!

Oh that's right I'm not a board full of kids.

>>56023331
The last game I played was Prince of Persia from 1989 on Win 3.11. :)

>>56023331
Even things that aren't games mate. Juice the i5 up to 4.3 and it will beat the (4.7ghz) 9590 in every computing task you can imagine. Photoshop? Encoding? 3 modelling? Data analysis? Compiling?
Can you name one thing a 9590 will do better?
And in "gaymes!!" As you put it, the difference is dramatic. The Anon with the chip also asked what a good cheap graphics card is, so unless they're doing CAD rendering or a linux passthrough, its probably for gaming.

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Basically looking to build a relatively small Esports box to sit at my desk and run Windows for when I need to game and then looking to pick up an XPS 13 Developer Edition for my daily use machine with Linux on it. Thought and opinions?

P.S. by "Esports" I mean I'd be playing Counter Strike, Dota, Starcraft, Quake/Reflex, and maybe a tiny bit of Overwatch, nothing very demanding whatsoever.

>>56023573
Oh, I'd be stealing one of the hard drives from my current machine, by the way.

The case im using has a green LED on the power button, theres no way to disable it turning on through the PC, is there any reason I shouldn't just cut the wire, or is removing it super easy

>>56023597
Couldn't you just leave the front panel connector labeled "Power LED" unplugged from the motherboard?

>>56023652
I just wanted a second opinion before I even opened the case back up, after smashing a glass trying to cover it up last night I really dont give a fuck, i just want to know if its not worthwhile

>>56023573
Looks very good. I've heard CX series Power supplies are failure prone. I had a 600w cx psu die on me from booting a system with a calculated tdp of 419 watts.

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this should do 1080p video playback, music, shitposting and old games well enough eh?

>>56004714
>http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Take it with a grain of sand. The guy behind it is an AMDrone who inflates prices for Nvidia products.

I wanna finally bite the bullet and get a 1070. the three models im looking into are:

>zotac AMP!
>gigabite g1 gaming
>EVGA SC gaming

which one to get? theyre all about the same price for me.

I'd like to upgrade my pc over the next few months, for now I'd like to keep the budget between 300 and 500 although that might be exceeded in time.
I'm mainly playing Arma 3 and Squad with it and for that I want to improve the performance of my system

Current build:
>CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz
>Power supply: Rasurbo GaminX & Power 650W ATX 2.2 (GAP656 V2)
>Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3
>Video card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT Myst. Edition
>Memory: 8 GB

Suggestions welcome, thanks in advance

>>56006723
Coolermaster v650/750 is a highly rated semi psu

what's the fastest gaming harddrive I can buy without falling for the SSD meme?
I don't trust SSDs and their bullshit so I need a normal HDD that is speedy enough to handle loading big games like Overwatch and Dota 2.
My budget is $200 and I want at least 1TB of storage but I could cut down if it meant faster speeds.

>>56028128
Obvious choice would be a 1070/60. Possibly 16gb of dram. Those are really your only upgrade paths.

>>56028166
SSD's are not a meme, friendo. max you will get out a HDD is like 160 vs 550 for a ssd.

My current build is:
case: aerocool aero-500
CPU: i5 6500
motherboard:Asrock B150M-HDV mATX
PSU:Fortron Raider S550 80Plus 550W
if I buy a gainward gtx 1060 will it fit in the case and the power is enough?

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>>56028272
550 is fine.
Your case is large enough.

>>56028743
thanks I wasn't sure because it seemed the container was in the way

Stupid question incoming.

I'm interested in building a PC, and my brother is being a cool dude and is offering to upgrade his processor and give me his old one for nothing. I don't know the specifics yet, but I'm pretty sure it's an i7 quad core with around 2.5GHz per core. Would this be considered pretty outdated and/or useless? For reference, I'm considering getting a GTX 1060 and I'd ideally like to play games like Overwatch and Street Fighter 5.

>>56023573

Why not 16gb ram though

>>56029416
It would really depend on the model, or more specifically the generation. We're on the 6th generation of desktop i7's right now, but generally there haven't been great strides in a while, it'll probably be fine.

>>56028176
I thought as much, thanks

>>56028166


I remember when SSDs were just a blip on the horizon in 2008 and I was so fucking stoked to never have to listen to a mechanical HDD ever again, plus the power efficiency and speed increases.

The firmware that cause some SSDs to die prematurely was phased out in one generation at least 6 years ago. That's you falling for old lady wooden pussy FUD

You're fucking dumb dude.

modular, semi-modular or fixed for power supply?

>>56029498
The desktop would only be used for gaming, not general use at all. Currently my Windows drive on my desktop has graphics drivers, Discord, and video games, that's it. Not even a third party web browser.

Doesn't seem necessary and I wanted to keep the cost down as much as possible while still getting a good enough gaming rig. When the 1050 comes out I may even drop to that.

>>56029686
The only reason I got 16gb was because during gaming, I would run out at 8gb. I didn't believe it because everyone always says 8 is enough. I only have 4 cores and don't really run vm's much, or encode/photoshop enough to really need 16, except for gaming.

>>56029686

I see

Corsair 200 or 300R?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/37LgJV

I'm trying to go for a quiet / near silent htpc build. I already have a u2515h (1440p monitor). Ideally, I'd like to be able to run madVR with the nnedi3 scalers without kicking up the fans or keeping them dead silent if they do run.

I'm not sure about whether the PSU is going to be too loud and I'm hovering between the 960 and 1060.
Budget is a soft $700 and a hard $800 USD, cheaper being the prefered choice.

>>56029725
Is that with single player AAA type titles or multiplayer games? I could see if you were the kind of guy to play Witcher or whatever, but sticking to the Esports multiplayer titles I wouldn't think I'd exceed 8.

>>56029867
It's a pretty hard limit you are setting up for yourself. muh cities:skyline really did it for me, but any modern game is now reccommending a minimum of 8.

>>56029842
250gb ssds are so cheap, its foolish not to pay the extra. Forget the 960, even AMD's 380x was better than that trash.

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r8, It took me 2 months to buy every part I wanted as cheap as I possibly could. Today I manage to snatch this 1440p 144hz freesync monitor for the acer ebay store. I feel I got it for a really good price. Any thoughts?

>>56029971
It's going to be very hard to improve on the perf:price of that build. Are you an insider or something?

>>56029988
Nope, I literally spend 3-4 times a day looking at ebay/jet/other websites for the past 2 months since I'm a jew and didn't want to spend over $1500 If I could avoid it. The prices include taxes as well

>>56029971
Also Any advice on what type of keyboard/mouse I should get? Didn't really think too much about it which is why I haven't bought it yet

>>56029906
It's not really a limit, it's just all I really play. I'll be playing the new Deus Ex game when that comes out, but I very seriously only play Esports titles as it is.

>>56029928
Will consider the SSD.
I'm not fanboying over the brand. TDP is the most important aspect for me.

>>56029971
$150 6600k? Jeez you did awesome.

My brother built a new PC and when he flips the PSU on (it's a Corsair 850W) with the air conditioning on, the power goes out in that part of the house.

But if he flips the PSU on without the air conditioning working, he can then do whatever he wants, including turning on the AC, with no issues whatsoever

Is this fixable? It's not like he's gonna be turning the PSU on and off all the time

Are there any 480/470/1060s in stock anywhere in the US right now, that are not $80 more expensive than they should be?

>>56030468
Nowinstock.net

>>56019204
Yes

>>56026478
IIRC EVGA has the best warranty of those three.

>>56029674
Semi modular. Unless you're a dumb ricer and want to replace all the cables.

What's the best external hard drive to get? Looking for about 1TB of storage.

Not bothering with external SSDs since they're expensive as fuck.

I just ordered a fury for $300. How did I do?

Should I have just got a 1060?
I'm upgrading from a 6950 which was an upgrade from a 4850 so I stayed ayymd

>>56030607
Neat

Just bought an 8gig 470

>>56030898
The fury is better than the 1060 so you did well, just make sure your psu can handle it.

obligatory for new builders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw

please add to sticky/pastebin/wiki

>>56030428
That's more of an electrical problem and you'll have to call an electrician to see whats wrong with the wiring in the house.

>>56030898
You should have gotten a 1060. Most performance reviews show that the 1060 and fury have pretty close frames, sometimes the fury winning, sometimes 1060 winning.

However if you got an EVGA 1060 you could apply to their step up program.

NVIDIA drivers are also better.

And the 1060 is cheaper if you buy it at MSRP

I wanna start off with a dirt cheap build that I can swap parts out for later. Wanting to spend around 700, already have harddrive and peripherals. Expecting to spend most of it on a flexible mobo at the moment.

>>56031434
dont. save up more money and you wont have to upgrade as soon and save money in the long run

>>56031434
if you buy cheap and swap out later you'll end up costing yourself more in the long run, because you're going to have parts that bottle neck each other

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R8 faggots. Few clicks away from ordering.

i3 over FX 6300 because Source engine a shit, upgrade-ability and Muh Dolphin and PCSX2.

Yes I am a poorfag NEET who can't afford a new Gpu, give me a break.

>>56031566
remove SSD and get a better CPU. it's easier and cheaper to add SSD later than replacing the CPU.

if the mobo only has 2 ram slots, get 1x8GB stick instead so you can get another in the future.

also i'd get another brand of mobo, asrock's cheap stuff isnt very reliable.

>>56031566
>i3
get an i5 at least, some are just as cheap yet better than that i3

that cooler master case a shit

corsair is good but CX a shit

>>56030898
>falling for the fury meme
for what purpose?

>>56031633
Not him, but why is the case shit?

>>56031210
newer version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4

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>>56031566
>>56031613
>>56031633
Slightly over budget but for the best I guess.

>>56031917
thats better

do you have a micro center near your house? you can get the mobo / CPU cheaper there too

>>56032285
Nope, live in the outskirts of GTA.

Building my first PC and I'm trying to navigate the semantics of figuring out which part is best value, best design, best ventilation etc etc.

Which one would you recommend and why?
http://www.ebuyer.com/753053-evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-graphics-card-ebuyer-com-06g-p4-6161-kr
or
http://www.ebuyer.com/753209-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6g-graphics-card-ebuyer-com-gv-n1060d5-6gd-1-0

>>56032647
read reviews from hardware sites (not consumer reviews).

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This is more of a general question but what is the best time to buy? Do prices drop in September/October or would they stay the same in August?

>>56033386
Black.friday usually has the lowest, or cyber monday. Good luck with that.

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First time ever building a computer
Meant mainly to play video games and budget is 1500
Thinking about this, I might buy a better monitor later on, what did I fuck up in?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4P9gwV

>>56033427
Get a better CPU cooler and case.
Use your current monitor until you get a good one, or just get it right away with this PC.

>>56033523
What do you suggest for CPU cooler and case?

>>56031434
$700 can get you a decent build if you skip getting a GPU right now and just use onboard video. You could also get only 8gb of ram now and make sure you leave some slots free. Find a cheap monitor from craigslist or see if there's anything offering local pickup on ebay.

>>56033420

yeah that's too far off. Guess I'll pull the trigger soon. Thanks for the info.

>>56033420
what is black fridays deals? like how low can i expect a 6700k cpu to go down?

>>56033551
google cpu cooler comparison and check hardwarecanucks on youtube for case reviews.

But if you're lazy: Cryorig H7 cooler and Fractal R5 case.

>>56033777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdNFAB6g-bs

>>56033805
I meant what can I expect to pay on that day, whats the average sale on good processors and video cards and shit, 20 bucks off? 100 bucks off?

>>56033928
That's like asking what the stock market will look like in a year.

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>>56031917
here mang. matx build with decent poorfag parts

>>56025231
you are the poorest nigger here kys

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I feel like I'm spending way too much, but I don't know where to cut other than a cheaper monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sytW3F

As far as 1080p 60fps on mostly medium-high settings, what's the better choice for me? A 480 or a 10660 overall?

>>56034603
GTX 960

>>56034627
yeah but doesn't the 480 run [spoiler]Doom 4 on Vulkan[/spoiler] better?

Anyone here with a GIGABYTE mobo ever had the D4/D3 error on your debug screen?

It's always fucking there for me and I have no issues with my pc that Ive ran into yet, could it just be that the mobo's BIOS version is outdated?

It's on F3 but the latest is F5, but I can't even update it cause the .exe and the other shit isn't compatible with 64bit Win10, which is hilarious.

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Trying to get a midrange computer to replace a computer i have on life support. Thoughts on what I can improve?

>>56034551
You can easily cut costs on the motherboard, case, power supply, and good god a $180 keyboard? Why?

>>56033975
no it isn't
how much were processors and shit off last year?
and the year before?
an estimate, that's all.

>>56034795
Solid choices all around, any reason why you wanted that motherboard? There are some cheaper options.

>>56035438
Gotcha. And they keyboard is like 60 dollars less from the manufacturer, I don't know why PC parts managers has a higher price.

I have zero experience building a rig, but I want to make a good gaming desktop that I won't have to make major upgrades to for a while. With possible flexibility to do things like stream/video editing or minor music production.
I have some stuff I can salvage from my last everyday PC that broke like monitor, keyboard, extra fans, network adapter, etc
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/99Brr7
My budget is about $1000-1600
I suppose I mainly I need an idiot check to make sure I'm not forgetting anything or that it'll actually work. And any other suggestions. Thanks!

>>56035534
Durability mainly, and software. As much as I love Asus's Uefi interface, durability is utter trash, support is even worse, I built a computer for a family member who had constant MB failures. So they are out of the question. MSI and ASRock BIOS interface isn't as up to par as Gigabyte's not mentioning feature sets. I understand Gigabyte has cheaper motherboards, however i just want something that lasts honestly, and from other peoples experience, gigabyte UD line is pretty damn solid. A friend of mine is still rocking an older gigabyte line with it overclocked since day one with no issues, where others failed.

tl;dr I just want something that lasts and has solid component. But I'm open to suggestions as bringing the price down is preferable. Just as long as it isn't Asus

I have zero experience building a rig, but I want to make a good gaming desktop that I won't have to make major upgrades to for a while. With possible flexibility to do things like stream/video editing or minor music production.
I have some stuff I can salvage from my last everyday PC that broke like monitor, keyboard, extra fans, network adapter, etc
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/99Brr7
My budget is about $1000-1600
I suppose I mainly I need an idiot check to make sure I'm not forgetting anything or that it'll actually work. And any other suggestions. Thanks!

I have zero experience building a rig, but I want to make a good gaming desktop that I won't have to make major upgrades to for a while. With possible flexibility to do things like stream/video editing or minor music production.
I have some stuff I can salvage from my last everyday PC that broke like monitor, keyboard, extra fans, network adapter, etc
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/99Brr7
My budget is about $1000-1600
I suppose I mainly I need an idiot check to make sure I'm not forgetting anything or that it'll actually work. And any other suggestions. Thanks!

Intel changed the thickness of the substrate for its Skylake (6th generation) Core processors. However the thinner, less rigid structure could lead to many well known coolers damaging the chip and/or the motherboard, says a report by PC Games Hardware in Germany.

The report says that due to the chip's weaker supporting structure, the pressure exerted by a number of well known coolers is simply too much and is causing components to bend. The mechanically weaker CPU, its pins, and the motherboard contacts can all be bent and sheared by the pressure exerted by cooler clamping mechanisms. Even if that doesn't happen straight away, as you system sits on its desk, the moving of the system anywhere, if it receives any knocks or bumps in transit, could result in the structural ill-effects.

>>56034551
Check acerrecertified or its ebay store every day, at least once a weak that monitor comes up anywhere from $250-350 although it refurbished. I managed to get it today for $300 from its ebay store..

>>56035847
why haswell instead of skylake? They're the same price and the 6700k is better, and uses ddr4 memory.

>>56036537
I had no idea that was a thing, thank you.
However that's made me basically start over and on this site I keep getting the compatibility error
"The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6Gb/s ports are disabled."
I'm not sure what that means or how to fix it.

>>56004714
OP, seriously, READ THE STICKY

>>56037019
Do you use a shitload of SATA hard drives? if no, it's a non-issue.

>>56037052
OP did nothing wrong. Calm down

>>56037055
Sweet.
So how's this looking?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/GML7XH
Any trusted cheaper options with equivalent performance?

>>56037019
I don't know how it is with that Asus mobo, but a Gigabyte one has two m.2 slots. If you use 1, several sata ports gets disabled. if you use the 2nd one, the 3rd pci-e x16 slot gets disabled.

Check out the manual for that motherboard on their website and read up on it.

Currently have an Asus N550JV laptop. This will be my first PC build. PC will be for university school work, gaming and possibly some 3d design. Any advice and/or recommendations are appreciated.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYc4d6

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I'm about ready to pull trigger on this. Would like some suggestions for quality yet affordable gaming mouse/headset

>>56038249
My budget is around $1,000.

>>56004714
>Currently have an Asus N550JV laptop. This will be my first PC build. PC will be for university school work, gaming and possibly some 3d design. Any advice and/or recommendations are appreciated.
>
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYc4d6
My budget is around $,1000.

>>56038249
I'm gonna be honest here, there's a lot wrong with the build.
First off, the 8350 isn't a great cpu for gaming at all. I'm using it right now. It's OK but certain games bottleneck it. Fairly certain World of Warcraft, for example, can only use 2 CPU cores, meaning it's basically a 4ghz Athlon. Intel is just straight up better for gaming.

Secondly, that cpu cooler is really only for super mini builds. It's good for tiny ass computers, but you have a lot of room in that S340 (good case choice btw). For the same price, you can get much better coolers that are full sized.

gtx 970 is just straight up worse than a gtx 1060. Camp nowinstock.net if you have to. 1060 is newer hardware, more vram, higher clocks. It's just better.

Power supply is a little expensive for your tier of build, but it's a quality unit.

>>56038249
>>56038268
>GTX 970 for $300+
>not GTX 1060
>not http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500362
For your budget of $1100+, you should be going with an Intel build. May need to tone down the screen though.

>>56038325
Thanks for the advice. Will defiantly making changes to the build.

>buy parts
>do build
>everything turns on, no display
>troubleshoot like mad, figure out that the HDMI cable must be inserted in the GPU before boot, of neither the onboard or GPU will give it a signal
>attempt Windows 7 Pro 64 install
>0.0gb HDD
>fuck.jpg
>HDD is fried (reading as 0.0gb in BIOS, diagnostic programs throwing errors)
>get another HDD while waiting on the refund process
>Windows gets most of the way through installation, then throws a 'corrupted files' error
>on a fucking hologrammed official DVD
>what are the odds of getting a busted HDD and Windows disc in the same shipment?
>alright, we can still do this
>download the official .iso
>put it on a USB drive using the official utility
>wait, I only have USB 3.0 ports, gonna have to slipstream the drivers
>slipstream the drivers
>install from USB
>says it needs fucking CD/DVD drivers to proceed
>it throws a CD/DVD driver error because it can't see the very USB drive it's fucking sitting on. Thank you, Microshaft
>slipstream failed, I guess
>every help thread online about the issue says 'just swap the USB drive to another port, man'
>doesn't work
>try the USB 3.0 drivers that came with the motherboard
>when it installs them, all USB devices plugged into the computer go dead

I guess I'll re-attempt the slipstreaming tomorrow, and probably pick up a spindle of DVDs on my way back from work, then try to create a DVD from the .iso, and see if I can make that work.

I would like one piece of this process to just fucking work the way it's supposed to. I would like the world's largest OS producer to include drivers for standard hardware on its install CDs, instead of making me jury-rig this shit into it.

I would like to game on my 1070, after 5 years of integrated laptop graphics and a 250gb HDD.

I guess I was asking for it, trying to go Win7 on a Skylake, but I hoped the mobo's PS/2 emulation settings would allow me to do the install even though it only has USB 3 ports.

>>56038941
Isn't win 7 not supported on skylake?

>>56039077
bystander question, which versions of windows are supported on skylake?

>>56038941
>would like the world's largest OS producer to include drivers for standard hardware
but Linux already comes with drivers included

>>56039077
>Isn't win 7 not supported on skylake?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/11675/windows-7-windows-8-1-skylake-systems-supported

Everything except USB3.0 in the installer is, apparently.

I think.

I hope.

>>56039146
You shoulda done win 10 mate. If it's "botnet" that you're worried about, rest assured the government can spy just as easy on you when you use windows 7.
But you're stuck with the install process with 7. I don't know alot about it, so I can't help. But I wish you luck.

Alright last time posting, hopefully.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BjWfPs
Ignore the case, I know it's big but the other options were too small and/or ugly.
Am I good to start purchasing?

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>>56039316
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BjWfPs
not bad, not my style of case but the components seem solid.


Cheap pc for my kid? She's outgrowing my old laptop and her bday is coming.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXF4d6

>>56032915
I've driven myself insane reading a lot of reviews and trying to pick the best value for money because I can forsee myself staying with this card for a long time. I've done so much reading and research that one of my choices and retailers have now changed.

I'm driving myself mad researching, could someone spoonfeed me their opinion just this once? One of the choices have now changed but I'm deciding between:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-windforce-oc-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18k-gi.html

>Two fans.
>Reference design.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-sc-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-30b-ea.html

>One fan.
>Higher clock speed.
>Slightly cheaper.
>Non-reference design.

hey, just built my PC and its saying my mother board is running at 80 oC and CPU is 70 oC? what do.

using the Phanteks Enthoo Pro and bequite! dark rock.

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>upgrade mobo/cpu/ram
>windows 10 unactivates itself

>>56042192
bios is saying different temps to speccy so ignore this

>>56021423
480 is about 10 bucks better.

>>56040938
Never mind, I waited too long and now the card I was leaning towards is out of stock.

https://www.amazon.com/Cryorig-CR-C7A-Flow-Heatsink-47mm/dp/B0177GTV9U/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1471011331&sr=1-3&keywords=cryorig+h7

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565

Any difference between these two or are they the same exact product?

The pictures make them look different, but they're both named the same, so i don't know.

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Open to suggestions and opinions. Thanks /g/

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is my current PC a ticking bomb? seriously worried one of these days my psu will explode.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNGnLD

>>56044377
If you're getting a non-K CPU, you don't really need more than the stock cooler. You might want to consider getting some faster RAM if your MOBO supports it.

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Please rate this, open to suggestions. I do a lot of video editing, and I plan to play video games as well. Not looking for one of those $400 or more high end video cards.

>>56044554
Looks good, but for video editing you might want to consider 5820k instead.

>>56044397
>unlocked cpu
>AyyMD gpu
>500w psu
>not watercooling said gpu
enjoy your impending DOOM
use this: http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator you dipshit nigger
tl:rd get 600w 80 Plus bronze or higher

>>56034445
>rosewill
you might aswell pour water on your pc and turn it on

>>56044554
Very good. Maybe get more RAM depending on how large your project files are.

>>56044377
You're fuckin solid. The only thing looking out of place is that you have a 250gb drive and no larger mass storage drives.

>>56044947
Remove SSD and get a Z170 mobo and unlocked CPU.

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>>56044737
its 550w but thanks for the advice.

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Going to throw my current 660ti in there until i can find a non reference 480 at a good price (or give up and get a 1060)

do i need 600w or can i live on 450?

what brand Z170 mobi is the best?

Should I bother paying 150~ for a 500 Samsung SSD or 80 for a 250 Gig if I have 3 1 TB hard drives?

I dont know if installing too mnay games will fill it up fast

>>56044377
Your build is similar to mine, the few differences being that I don't have an aftermarket cooler, my mobo is cheaper (Asus H110 m-k), my RAM is faster (1x8GB 2133 MHz CL 13, Kingston Savage) and I have a 1TB HDD (WD Caviar Blue 7200 RPM) and a different case (Cooler Master N200).
Why would you take the OEM version of Windows 10 though?

>>56044993
Going by that calculator, you probably use about 496 watts at max load. Your 550w unit is technically enough, but when you see "80+ certified" it means it runs best with about 20℅ overhead, which for your components means about 600 watts is optimal.
Your unit won't crap out on you, but you may want to upgrade.

>>56045057
check hardware review sites that compare motherboards.

>>56045035
450W is fine if you dont OC.

>>56045123
>but when you see "80+ certified" it means it runs best with about 20℅ overhead
wrong. it means it draws 20% extra at the wall, not that it gives 20% watts less to your components.

>>56045057
Just get the 500GB SSD, per GB it's the same as a 250

tfw my PSU 12v settings are at 14.05V

I think it's kill

>>56045158
By "runs best", that's what I meant.
>>56044979
Why? That anon has a pretty reasonable setup going there. You're asking them to easily add an extra $100 or so when they don't look very interested in overclocking.

>>56044993
also that 600w is only to run the system, overclocking means that you must have a big psu something in realm of 700~

>>56045371
resell value and longer life means he doesnt have to upgrade as soon and save money in the long run.

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I posted yesterday about my brother being a cool guy and offering to give me his processor for my first build while he upgrades. He got an unexpected tax debate and is deciding to be a cooler guy and give me his motherboard and RAM as well.

If paired with a 1060, is this a good hand-me-down rig? I'd play things like Overwatch on it.

I built my PC a few months ago, but I was wondering:

is RAM always a total bitch to fit into the mobo? I bought a stick without a heatshield, and I was fully sure I was going to either grind down the contacts on the stick or break my mobo outright when fitting it.

The top of the stick cut my thumb when I was pressing down on it, to give an idea of the pressure I ended up using on it. Eventually it went in when I pushed one corner in, and then went down on the other corner, as it sat at an angle.

For $100, can a gtx 590 be beat in CUDA performance?

>>56045603
CPU gonna bottleneck hard with any recent mid-range graphics card.

For free it's OK but I'd just sell it and use the money along with any savings and buy something because you will struggle to play any recent game on 1080p with playable FPS.

I would not get something older than a 2500k.

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>>56045839
Well fuck, people are selling theirs for around £20 if eBay is anything to go by. I had no idea it'd be so cheap, games seem to run like a dream when I see my brother playing vidya and I think he has a 970.

Costs keep mounting up. The 10 year dream of joining the master race keeps slipping through my fingers.

>>56045985
if his games run fine and u get it for free, get it and use it.

>>56044421

what would be faster RAM for me? My mobo only supports 2133.

Anyone in here do hardware passthrough on vms?

This asus x99 deluxe was good for this acording to the internet and now the deluxe II is out for the broadwell refresh chips.

Want to get this and the 6 core then do linux with hardware through to the vms. GPU usb hub whatever I think of later.

What are the odds they broke something with iommu on the new board and this will be a pain in the ass.

>>56048043
Kingston Savage. As far as I know it's the only legit 2133 MHz DR4 RAM that has CL13. It automatically overclocks to 2400 MHz, which means that it can get even faster.

>>56044377
>>56044421
>>56048043
>>56048589

With this DDR4 there isnt any proven gain from 2133 all the up to 3k something.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198894-raming-speed-does-boosting-ddr4-to-3200mhz-improve-overall-performance

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3hh2lr/discussion_ddr4_ram_speed_and_skylake_processors/

Dont go out of your way on the ram.

>>56048876

Wow, thanks anon. Good reads.

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Am I fine with just upgrading my graphics card if im a graphics whore ?

>>56050015
Yes. Skylake isn't a big boost over haswell anyway.

>buy 1060 for $360 from a 3rd party reseller on amazon
>the card goes back in stock for $260
>my credit card emails me and says they see a huge price difference and want to refund me the difference
>show them my invoice receipt
>2 days later I get 100 dollars deposited back into my account

living the good life

Now I need a good soundcard

how do i install windows 7 on a z170 mobo?

I can get to the windwos install screen and then my mouse / kb no longer work

please help i dont want botnet 10

Building my first pc right now at this very moment, do i need my disk drive at the moment or am i good until it comes in? Some of my equipment came with disks but I dont know if they need to be updated or not.

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Have a question guise.

My current piece of shit is as follows:
FX-8120
ASRock Pro3 (Early revision, doesnt really support 125w cpu, i have to run at 2.8GHz)
8GB (1x8GB) DDR3-1600
Asus Radeon 5770
Crucial m4 64GB
Decent PSU
Decent Case
Assorted hard drives and shit.

Ive found this on local auction site:
Intel QuadCore i5-2500k @ 3.4Ghz (34x100)
Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3 Motherboard
32GB (4x8GB) G.Skill F3-12800CL10-8GBXL DDR3 RAM 7-7-7-18
Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 Series
OCZ 240GB Vertex-4 HDD
Ultra X3 1000W Power Supply

It comes in one of these:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MountainMods/U2-UFO-CYO
/
And it has all the following

Cooling with all 1/2" fittings
EK-Supreme LT Waterblock
EK-Multioption Reservoir 250 Rev 2
Swiftech MCP655 12VDC Pump
Thermochill 120.3 Radiator
Feser Black Anti-Kink Tubing 1/2"
Feser One F1 Cooling Fluid UV-Red

I know the video card is a bit weak, but it can surely play most modern games at okay settings cant it?

Its cheap as hell, for the same money I am looking at getting an i3-6100 and gtx950

>>56050419
>I don't want botnet *
>still installs Windows

don't be dumb

>>56048876
So we should look more towards latency than frequency?

>>56050743
I want botnet 7, not 10

How do I install it when this shit does that?

I did a google search and a lot of people run int othis issue, but articles and forum posts are 10 months old. NO resolution by now?

>>56050751
can someone please answer my question? it's been an hour

>>56022660
yes, it will be shitty in a couple of years, everything becomes shitty in a couple years

except 2500/2600(K) processors

The case im using has a green LED on the power button, theres no way to disable it turning on through the PC, is there any reason I shouldn't just cut the wire, or is removing it super easy

>>56051966

>not just disconnecting the LED cable from the motherboard

>>56051056
Most are using a Windows 7 iso that's modified with a usb installer tool (from Asus, ASrock, etc) that inserts the needed usb driver since Windows 7 doesn't come with it.

Start here

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/Win7Install/

>>56051966
removing the led header takes 5 seconds. Find your mobo manual. If it's an OEM (dell, hp, ect) you might be kinda fucked.

any idea when an H7 Cryorig heatsink will be restocked?

>>56053818
I don't think anybody does unless they work at a major supply place, or cryorig.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qFcGqk

needed something that could always be on, play those 1440p /v/idya, and be efficient for $800

>>56054125
>1440p
>$800
you're going to have to either lower expectations, (1080p) or find a used cpu and graphics card.

>>56054707
What's the current problem component? the cpu or gpu?

>>56004714
R8 my build
https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/541048/Current%20build

$460 for a i5 750, 8gb ram, hd5850 , 500 gb hdd, cm 500w psu, P7H55M motherboard

Y/N?

>>56054125
I wouldn't trust that power supply at all. Also a 1440p capable machine is going to want at MINIMUM 500W, probably 550.
Best gpu for your range is probably a gtx 1060, but only if you pay less than $280 for it. Otherwise I'd rather try and find a craigslist gtx 980, and try to talk the seller to $299 max. There's actually an MSI gaming one in my area for $300. If you could find a great deal on a Fury X or some such that would be good too.

Don't forget to budget for your OS, Case, ect. If you're on a budget, I recommend checking out the Crucial MX 300 series ssd's that just came out.

>>56055667
>Don't forget to budget for your OS, Case, ect.
already have those from the machine im typing this on. also im curious why the resolution would affect the PSU needed, my monitor plugs into the wall not the case? Isn't power draw based on the components in the case?

Maybe i'll get a cheaper SSD and a more reliable power supply with the money saved. why is the 1070 bad here?

>>56054821
Neither, but you have made significant quality sacrifices. Your PSU/mobo are very low end.

>>56055696
1070 isn't bad. It's great. Just not sure how you're going to really fit that within your $800 budget.
Resolution doesn't effect power draw. A mid-high end graphics card + your cpu will be using a hefty chunk of power though. The 1070, for example, can spike up to 220 watts. See >>56045123
If you're going to be using the system for say, 2+ years, then you want something that won't shit out on you. I've had 2 low end corsair units fail on me.

>>56055642
help

>>56055805
5850 and i5 750 are ~5-6 years old. No.

>>56055827
just looking to build a super budget pc

>>56055938
Not to stroke the Falcon's dick, but the $484 build on logicalincrements will destroy that pc.

>>56055938
build around something like an i5-2400 and rx 460

>>56055993
what do you mean?

>>56055993
disregard that >>56056047

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>>56055993
Penis status: Unstroked.

>>56056047
Pic related.

R7 370 $135 | FX 6300 $98 | ASUS M5A97 R2.0
$85 | 4GB DDR3 $16 | 1TB HDD $49 | EVGA 500 B $46 | Corsair 200R $55

though personally i cant stand amd cpu's so i'd go for something based on an older sandy bridge platform even if it means a little less storage and a slightly cheaper gpu.

Though its questionable whether there's really any sacrifices to be made, the 2400 is a bit more expensive than the 6300 but the motherboard will be a lot cheaper since no overclocking required on a 2400. And you get 4 real cores not 6 half cores, and much better floating point performance.

>>56056047
Go to logicalincrements.com
They will provide a parts list for a given budget range. Their $484 build features an amd fx 6300, and amd r7 370 which should easily beat an i5 750 and hd 5850

>>56056102
>>56056097
>>56056072
>>56055994
>>56055993
>>56055827
thanks guys

have literally 0 experience in this area

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>>56004714
Is there a reason not to buy skylake?
Why are people still buying the older stuff?

>>56056140
Some 1150 mobos are cheaper. Once non-Skylake stock is cleared, it will be the only option.

What monitor pairs well with a 6700k/1070 build? I plan on buying a 1080ti or amd equivalent down the road, assuming it doesn't suck. I don't know if 144hz would be better or more pixels. Maybe an ultrawide.

>>56056150
So its just that skylake costs more?
Is it superior?

>>56056177
Generational improvements over the past 6 years now have been very minor. I'm talking on the order of percentages you can count on one hand. Most improvements are seen in the area of features, the only reason i can think of to go Skylake is DDR4.

>>56056177
>Is it superior?
Slightly, ~5%
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation

Not enough for someone to upgrade from Haswell. Also why some people will happily buy Haswell, if they can find the platform for cheaper. 5% is trivial.

>>56054125
Holy shit that 1070 is fucking tiny. I wonder how it compares to full sized ones.

>>56056191
ok, cool thanks.

ITT: Buy Mini ITX or mATX pc's unless you need over 6 USB ports because you're a cuck. ATX is a dying breed and should be stopped. Wasting space is not a good idea.

>>56056268
Airflow->cooling->lower temps/noise, ease of assembly, ease of cleaning... are good ideas.

>>56056301
>implying all those are not attainable in mini itx or mATX

>>56056208
I see, thanks

>>56056268
atx is not going to die any time soon.

>>56056326
>attainable with x
>and even easier with y

Guys, I think I fucked up. I was messing with gta 5 mods and noticed the frame hit. So I bought another gtx...... 780. I hate myself now. It was 160 bucks and in the spur of the moment I impulse bought it. Did I fuck up really bad or what?

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how does this build look?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BZ268K

I originally intended to get the 1060 since it seems superior in every way, but this monitor is apparently amazing (1080p 144hz freesync, actually 1ms, no PWM, etc.) so I swapped it out for the 480. Is this a bad move? My budget is $1500 or so. Could an extra $200-$300 result in a better gpu/monitor combo? I'd prefer a 1060/1070 but gsync is expensive and from what I've seen, mostly in 1440p monitors.

>>56056072
>>56056097
that should be able to run overwatch on ultra high easily right?

390x or 480? coming from 7970

Been reading that 480 sits between 390x/390.
390x for beefy hardware or 480 because new and lower wattage.

coolers are not matter, i'll be slapping on a clc

>novidya
Not saying 1060 is bad but I want soemthign that last long.

>>56056928

>7970

The answer is the fury or don't bother.

>>56056966
to be fair his 7970 is probably on life support by now
>>56056928
go nvidia if you are still using the same cpu you got with your 7970, you will get fps gains all around. nvidia outperforms amd in all cpu-bound scenarios.

>>56056097
>>56056102
that should run overwatch at ultra high easily right?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NzZXbj

I am attempting to graduate from consoles, so I am not experienced in the least when it comes to PCs. A few opinions would be nice. Will this last me a while? I do not plan on buying a new PC or parts for it for at least a little while.

Wireless adapter is needed as it won't be anywhere near the modem, and the keyboard/mouse/headset fucking glow so that's good enough for me.

>>56058247

I'd get a better quality psu out of principle.

Also:

>gaymen keyboard, headset and mouse

Not needed unless you think razer make the coolest products around, in which case you are beyond hope.

>>56058488
>I'd get a better psu out of principle.

I'll probably end up doing that, then. I assume that is because it would be better in the event I decide to overclock it later on? Is there any problem with using a higher wattage or is that simply overkill? I started looking at a gold, 650 watt.

>Not needed unless you think razer makes the coolest products around, in which case you are beyond hope.

I enjoy the sound of a mechanical keyboard and the glowing lights that all of them have. What's wrong with that?

>>56057332
Maybe high. Ultra is a stretch i think

>>56058841
You can get a better keyboard with lights for cheaper. Literally anything cherry Mx. I have the blackwidow. Its not great.

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>>56058247
>Razr headset

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>>56058841

Its not a matter of wattage per se, more of the fact when pushed hard a good psu will give no fucks - meh and shit tier units tend to give up under the strain. Remember quality lower wattage unit > shit high wattage unit.

Take for example super flower - most of their units really will deliver their rated wattage no matter what (fun fact: a low of EVGA units are rebranded super flower units) whereas a diablotek unit is a fireball waiting to happen.

>>56059065
Actually, to elaborate, here's what I don't like about the blackwidow.
>Huge frame, takes up whole desk
>5 macro buttons never get used, due to inconvenient placement if you're holding W in a game.
>Media shortcuts require taking your hand off the mouse.
>Key caps are slippery glossy bullshit.
>The switches feel just like a mushy cherry Blue, when its supposed to be like a clickier cherry Red.
Any other questions?