>more expensive than a 480 >less vRAM than a 480 >25%

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>>56004132
Because it's way better than the 480

>>56004132
some stuff works better with nvidia for example when using unreal engine amd video card becomes and oven on the other had nvidia has no probs

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>>56004150
look mommy i posted it again

>>56004168
an oven* sry bad englush not furst lenguage mb

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>>56004150
panjeet shill back to /v/

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>>56004150
>>>/v/

>>56004132
On average, a 1060 is 13.72% better than a 480.

On average, when using DX11, a 1060 is 15.25% better than a 480.

On average, when using DX12, a 1060 is 1.02% worse than a 480.

On average, when using Vulkan, a 1060 is 27.13% better than a 480.

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>>56004150
COOL STORY BRO

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>>56004208

>posts video game benchmarks
<tells others to go to v

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>>56004150
autism

>>56004216
look mommy i posted it again

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>>56004230
>cant even meme text properly
yea your a newfag now when are you going back to /v/
>>>/v/

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>>56004132
Because the RX 480 isn't competitive on lower end cpu's

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>>56004132
1060 is faster than 480

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>>56004254
And before someone say's that overhead doesn't exist on modern i5's, -it does

what is that thing in OP's pic? that's a computer part or something right?

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>>56004132
No clue. Brainwashed? Low IQ folks who blindly follow advertising.

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>>56004270
yet it doesn't on modern i3s hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>56004263
>the benchmark includes 9 gameworks games out of 15 total games
wew lad try harder

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>>56004132
>Rx 480 meme
>doesn't support cuda
>He only uses his pc to play games

>>56004253
>still posts video game benchmarks
/v/<<<

Nvidia getting exposed faster then a cam girl.

>>56004315
Not using a free and open standard over a shit and closed one
>>>/v/

>>56004327
>still being a newfag
>>>/v/

It's a real shame about the DX12 performance and no SLI thing, I was actually considering getting a GTX 1060 despite the low amount of vRAM but now I'm not so sure.

>>56004360
I literally mock using a Pc to only play games. You still >>>/v/
Just how autistic are you?

>>56004400
1060 is faster than 480 in DX12

>>56004313
>most new games have game works

Man, who would have thought..

>>56004360
><></v/><

>>56004432
then explain
>>56004253
>>56004220
>>56004208

>>56004294
>Not comparing it to different cpu's, no website source, no RX480 tests, no gtx1060, ruski text...
Wtf am I looking at ?

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>>56004502
Here is 1060 beating 480 in DX12

1060 even beats 480 in async

>>56004418
less than you buddy
>>>/v/

>>56004525
>>>/v/

>>56004540
>time spy
lol doesn't even use proper async stop shilling

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>>56004567
Lol

>>56004582
>no source
wew lad are you even trying anymore?

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>>56004360
>Not using a free and open standard

like i care.

AMD is too stupid to make a competitor to CUDA. They probably spend $0 on R&D.

>>56004540
You still haven't answered my question. I'm asking why the 1060 flopped in DX12 in those games. Mainly because they are all of interest to me so going with nvidia would mean having to settle for laggy gameplay. Is there a driver update that will fix this?

>>56004582
Yup it's funny how the 1060 even beats the 480 in AMD's own Ashes game.

1060 is just way better than the 480 in every way.

>>56004595
>posting anime
>lel i don't care about free and open source standards
/v/ spillage confirmed
go back now
>>>/v/

>>56004590
>no source
>wew lad are you even trying anymore?
TOP BAR

>>56004609
1060 is actually way faster in DX12

>>56004611
explain >>56004253
>>56004234
>>56004220
>>56004208
>>56004192
>>56004178
then

>more expensive

Lol no. The 1060 is so much cheaper here it's almost 470 price

>>56004648
how is eastern yurop poorfag

>>56004630
So you're just a paid shill then huh?

>>56004648
Can you please show me where I can find a 6GB vram gtx 1060 for $239 or less?

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480: >has more vram
>catches up (doesn't beat) to 1060 in several dx12 titles, just barely wins in DX12 AMDworks titles
>Crossfire

1060: literally every other aspect of the card including DX11 performance across the board and a 6-pin that doesn't cause Mobogate

Also you can get an AIB 1060's (such as EVGA SC) for less than AIB 480's

>why do people still unironically buy nvidia cards?
this is a no brainer for the 1060, they had 3rd party cards on day 1 while AMD took 6 fucking weeks

>>56004648
Yeah even in US 1060 is only $10 more than 480 for 13% better performance.

>>56004254
I want to see how it performs on a [email protected].
Any CPU lower than that is irrelevant.

>>56004679
>just barely wins in DX12 AMDworks titles
are you shitposting or are you just unironically this retarded

>>56004690
>*Yeah even in US 1060 is only $10 more than 480 for 20% worse DX12 performance.
ftfy

>>56004725
1060 is actually 13% faster than the 480 overall.

>>56004690
>$10 more
source?

>>56004704
>AMDworks
>OpenGPU
Literally an open source, fair platform that leverages the best aspects of gpgpu and modern GPU architectures.

>all this arguing over peasant-tier cards
lol

I can see why you'd want to defend your purchase if you plopped down ~$600, but seriously, these two cards are within spitting distance of each other in performance and price. Do you fuckers count ever bean to make sure your Chipotle bowl has exactly 4 oz too?

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>>56004623
STOP POSTING FACTS

FACTS ARE RACIST

>>56004746
And you are actually an severely autistic nvidiot.
>>>/v/

>>56004150
>4% DX11 Hitman
>14% DX12 Hitman
>all other games are DX11

This card was made for the next generation of games, people with 1060s are going to be really disappointed in the next year and a half or so.

>>56004755
Check new egg

1060 - $249
480 - $239

>>56004784
Even in DX12 the 1060 is faster, see the Time Spy benchmark.

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>>56004550
Jokes on you faggot I'm extremely autistic

>>56004759
tell that to thew other retard

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Just bought my tiny little love(1060 mini) yesterday for 299, couldn't be any happier :^)
I come from a 2 years old 750ti, so the leap in performance is considerable.

>>56004770
>an severely

Wtf English is this? Are all amdrones this incapable of basic English?

>>56004788
1060 - $249
Out of stock, mini itx shit or both

>480 - $239
what about the 4gb one shill?

1/10, be a little less obvious next time

>>56004801
You mean the benchmark that was sponsored by nvidia aib partners?
>>>/v/

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>>56004815
do want

>>56004815
My friend bought this just a few days ago. Great card with a 5 year warranty and the same price as a reference 480 8gb (£229).

>>56004315
>using sonny vegas (pirated of course)
>render using cuda on 660ti
>takes ~1 hour to render a 10 minute video with fuckloads of effects
>render using opencl on 5750
>takes 45m on same video

>>56004829
>typo
AM DRONE S BTFOFOFOFOFFO
you have autism

I'm curious, how does the GTX 1060 do in VR. I keep hearing about people with nvidia cards becoming sick after playing with VR because of some kind of stutter or something. As I understand nvidia cards lack full hardware async support and so they're not recommended for VR.

>>56004844
Mini ITX 1060s are actually very good. Check reviews for EVGA 1060, it's one of the best.

4GB 480 is very bad, even worse performance than the above benchmarks.

>>56004859
>britfagistan
enjoy being cucked by muslims nvidia shill

For all the shilling Nvidia gets on /g/, this is the shilliest thread that I have ever seen here.

>>56004865
1060 is very good in VR and has full hardware async support.

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>>56004865
>Nvidia
>VR
pic related

>>56004872
panjeet im not buying a nvidia card so you can give it a rest

>>56004865
>async
>vr

It's not even a requirement for vr and I've never ever heard of these stories you're mentioning. A gtx 970 is a recommended card for vr and it doesn't even have async support yet it runs vr just fine.

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>>56004880
thank all the /v/ spillage

>>56004886
>1060
>has full hardware async support.
pic related

>buy RX 480
>know that 1060 beats it on lots of reviews
>enjoy playing games
>feel good that I bought a product from a company that isn't run by jews

>>56004886
>1060 is very good in VR and has full hardware async support.
source?

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>>56004919
>amd
>not run by jews

Sure thing buddy.

>>56004942
>higher binned chips
>more vram

>>56004903
>A gtx 970 is a recommended card for vr and it doesn't even have async support yet it runs vr just fine.
This is actually where a significant amount of players becoming sick from playing VR storeis come from, old maxwell cards like the 970. Not sure how pascal does in VR though.

>>56004942
>not having fries with your burger

>>56004942
>better non reference design
>better overclocking headroom
>higher base clock
>better looking
>binned
> better power managment firmware
>faster than a 980

Yea there is a reason amd earned the right to charge $100 more for the card over the 290x

>>56004957
>more unusable vram

Ftfy. Still doesn't justify a $130 price hike.

>>56004957
That justifies rebranding the same chip and trying to sell it as new?

>>56004993
>more unusable vram
look a retard

does it matter when amd can't make a fucking driver worth a god damn fuck

>>56005004
but but its ok when nvidia does it

what is the 9000, 200, 500, and 700 series retard

>>56005026
>>>/2001/

>>56005028
>b-but nvidia!
Can't we have a single argument without blaming others?

>>56005044
that's not how autism works

>>56004988
>exact same non reference design
>can't overclock for shit especially compared to the competition
>measly 50mhz overclock which any 290x can achieve
>looks exactly the same with the same cooler
>literal housefire to the point where review sites recommend to not overclock it higher than factory clocks due to massive heat and power consumption

Amd literally jewing it's own fans. Yeah, some really good company right there.

>>56005028
Idk about the others, but the only rebranded card in the 700 series was 770.

>>56005044
Is it or is it not ok when nvidia does the same thing yes or no

>>56004865
Probably causes nausea after a few minutes in VR. Pascal was a huge flop with no full hardware async support like maxwell.

>>56005042

no, crimson still has tons of god damn problems that they flat out refuse to fix

16.8.1 just introduced a bunch of god damn problems with freesync and still hasn't fixed the dx11 black screen crashes

>>56005060
>>>/v/
fuck off neo /g/

>>56004132
>I'm curious, why do people still unironically buy nvidia cards?

They're retarded and/or don't have a choice since nvidia pays off manufactures to use their stuff only..

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>>56005018
http://www.techspot.com/review/1114-vram-comparison-test/page5.html

>As for the 4GB R9 290 vs. 8GB R9 390 comparison, there was nothing to see here. Most games didn’t consume more than 4GBs of VRAM, but there were cases such as in Assassin's Creed Syndicate where with almost 5GBs of memory usage, there was still not a single frame difference. Moreover, in this Assassin's Creed Syndicate example the 290 and 390 were good for just 26fps on average, so clearly the quality settings will need to be reduced for achieving playable performance and consequently memory use will drop.

>The 390 and 390X are really graphics cards we never wanted. At the time of their release the Radeon R9 290 and 290X were exceptional buys. The 290X cost just $330, while today the 390X costs around $100 more for no additional performance and it is no different with the 290 and 390.

>We see plenty of gamers claiming that the 390 and 390X are excellent buys due to their 8GB frame buffer ensuring that they are "future proofed," and well, that simply isn’t the case, as neither GPU has the horsepower to efficiently crunch that much data. Perhaps the only valid argument here is that the larger frame buffer could support Crossfire better, but we haven’t seen any concrete evidence of this yet.

>>56005069
>Idk about the others
newfag detected, everything but the 780 and 750ti was a rebrand

>>56004132
>good hardware
>spaghetti drivers

right, good luck anonchan

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>>56005075
>b-but nvidia
AMD fags everyone.

>>56005102
>Shills shilling
so whats this supposed to prove

>>56005102
Well good to know I don't need more than 4GB of vram. That makes 4GB 480 that much of a better buy.

>>56005114
>Its ok when nvidia does it because i have autism
Nvidiots everyone

Out of all the bullshit in this thread, are there any objective and definitive benchmarks which put the 480 ahead of the 1080 consistently? Surely this can't be that difficult to find.

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>>56004903

>>56005105
So, 780 ti?
760?

>>56005148
Scroll up.

>>56005139
Amdrones can't even keep their story straight. What happened to all the multiple threads about

>gtx 1060 is shit because it only has 6gb vram!
>8gb is the standard now 4gb is outdated !

Sheesh. What a cancerous fanbase.

>>56005155
the 760 is a rebrand of the 670 retard and the 780ti is just a unlocked titan/780

>>56005185
autism the post

>>56004132
I don't give a fuck if you want an RX480. The 1070 came out first and its a satisfactory card. With AMD you never quite know what your getting and they keep taking shortcuts to stay competitive.

>Not realising both companies are out to jew you and neither deserve brand loyalty.

>>56005199
and the 1070 is $450
try again nvidia shill

>>56005216
Cost $650 here. Slightly more than expected.
I like this card. It is a good card. Thats basically what it comes down to for me.

>>56005337
>paying $650 for a upper mid range card
wew lad

>>56005365
The cost of living in a beautiful country. This sort of markup is normal here. The 1080 is around $1000 USD which you could buy a shit car with.

>>56005404
>beautiful country
eastern yurop isnt "beautiful"

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>>56005186
670 is faster than a rebrand of the 670?
Nice.

>>56005439
Stop being poor and travel, Amerifat.

>>56004132
480 4gb reference would be a killer deal if it didn't blow on ice design wise and had any kind of availability. The aftermarket 480 cards are so exorbitantly marked up. If you didn't buy the $275 sapphire fury, newegg paypal code $230 meh aftermarket cooler 1060, or $170 premium cooler 470 you got cucked and are why the market sucks so much dick.

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>>56005440
because your far to retarded to look at it yourself

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>>56005440

>>56005516
(you)

>>56005439
Try the other hemisphere. New Zealand.
Worth every dollar I would say.

>>56005529
New zealand is also shit

>>56005440
the 760 is slightly cut down from the 670
see >>56005489
>>56005501

Does anyone know why the Youtube tech people like Paul and Kyle are in London?

What's the event for?

>>56005539
Have you been there? Fuck do you even own a current GPU?

>>56005562
ive see lord of the rings many times and its nothing special fucking Australian faggot

Tbh senpai

>>56004270
1fps difference... yeah, huge.

>>56005835
38.4/34.0 on i7 4690
33.8/28.0 on i5 4460
that's 4.6/6 fps difference and dropping under 30fps, and look at the i3 scores... while nvidia have almost the same perf across all cpus amd perf on i3 is a fucking joke.

They need to fix their drivers.

Amd has better hardware atm but they need more power to beat a weaker nvidia card just cause their shitty drivers.

>>56006196
I7 4790*

>>56005546
So it's not a rebrand?
Neat.

>>56004132
>this many Autistic Meme Delusions

Seek professional help my man

>>56005122
>if it's not positive news about AMD products it's shilling

>>56004208
>not realizing that some games are optimized for AMD cards

>>56004234
there is a fair argument to be had that minimum is more important than average or max.

>>56004254
fair enough point, I just upgraded my system with a 290x from an AMD 8350 to an i5-6600k. What a fucking beautiful thing. I can now run GTA V at 1440p Very High settings with high resolution shadows and extended draw distance at a solid 60fps and not even max out my card
Witcher 3 at 1440p is still a bitch though, thank god for free sync

>>56004679
>and a 6-pin that doesn't cause Mobogate
so does *any* non-reference 480. the $229 4gb Sapphire rx480 OC is by far the best card you can buy for under $400 right now

>>56004595
opencl?

>>56006314
>>56006389
>>56006316
leave neo /g/
>>>/v/

>>56004254
>>56004270
This says it all. AMD relies heavily on the cpu that's why "they age well" over time. Everytime a a card is re benched on newer and faster i7 extreme cpu they see more gains.

>>56006572
And users won't see the same gains on their home pc until they upgrade cpu.

>>56005199
>keep taking shortcuts

Must be why they keep compute in their consumer cards, have TruAudio DSP's built in to every GCN, have higher double precision in the lower end over Nvidias top end consumer cards, and don't have to resort to vendor lock in to keep you as a customer.

Who is cutting corners here?

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>>56007637
AMD: Cutting corners since 2010

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>>56004132
>Nvidia is 30% - 100%+ faster than AMD
(Always Massive Disappointment)
>Nvidia costs only 5-15 euros more than 480 in Europe

Pic related:
AMDrone when their shit cards get fucked by Nvidia.

AMDrone when they grasp for straws.

AMDrone when their company goes bankrupt

good drivers allow it to perform better than the 480 even given those limitations. In the long run the 480 will be better.

>Outperforms AYYMD 160W HOUSEFIRES that violates the PCIe power spec and shouldn't even be allowed to display the PCIe logo

>>56004132
>20°C less than 480
>40W less than 480

They just fucked up, didn't they?

>>56008043
What do you mean less degrees? With the same cooling or different?

>>56005595
>>56005539
>>56005439

Please good Lord don't let me end like this.

>>56004623
Why is the fury x below the titan x?

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>>56004132
Same price or cheaper than the 480 in many areas.
More than enough vRAM for 1080p gaming, you won't get high framerates above that resolution anyway without lowering the quality which will lower the vRAM requirements.
FP32 performance literally isn't important for gaming.
It's okay.
>~20% less FPS in DX12 than a 480
In which title?
SLI is shit.
They couldn't do an 8GB vRAM option without it being like the 970 due to the configuration of the SMs in the GPU. In order to have all full speed it needs to have six chips, so 6GB or 12GB, or 9GB if you can get 1.5GB vRAM chips.
I bought a 1060 and I have no regrets. The only recent game I am playing is Doom on Ultra settings 2560x1080 and I'm averaging 80-100FPS. In the older games I play my minimum FPS is over 100. I have no complaints.

>>56004234
>480 had a lower minimum framerate than the 1060
By a greater margin than the difference in average too.

>>56004815
That cooler looks absolutely terrible though.

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I can't believe people are still shilling that bullshit fermi/housefire GTX 480. It barely supports DX11, let alone 12, so I don't know wtf OP is talking about.

>>56004150
As always fpbp. AMD shills still try to sell cards with promises of future proofing right after they got cucked by bulldozer and mantle.

>>56005151
If you go back and check that article it has been updated stating that it will be fixed in a driver update.

I'll even link you to it
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-vive-displayport-incompatible,32204.html

>>56005539
Agreed.
Hardware is expensive and games on Steam have jacked up prices for no reason.

New Zealand is shit. I'm glad I left.

>It's a "mentally ill AMD poorfags call everyone who disagrees with their narrative a shill while believing that AMD cards are magically cheaper without cutting corners" episode.

I hate reruns.

>>56004234
>ashes

Thats the game that everyone owns isnt it as its so good. Hang on......

>>56008212
It's too late anon. Triggered AMDrones already left the thread convincing themselves they won the nonexistent battle between AMD and Nvidia. Truth is Nvidia slaughtered AMD with the release of 1060 and upcoming 1050. AMD had an open window of opportunity but because AiB 480 is a paper launch of 1080 levels and 1060 came out in thousands from dozens of different manufacturers it's over.

Everyone in this thread is fucking cancer

>>>/v/

Both RX 480 and GTX 1060 are decent cards, I don't think you would go wrong with either choices for 1080p gaming.

Don't get why people need to argue so much. There are pros and cons for each.

It's kind of nice we have at least 2 companies making PC GPUs, how much dick would it suck if either of them went belly up? If you think only AMD is at risk, think again and remember what happened to 3DFX.

In fact would be great if we saw another competitor show up to the scene.

>>56008428
take it back >:(

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>>56008583
But we do have other companies, who do you think makes Intel atom GPU?
Intel?

>>56004132
Don't forget it uses 100 watts less than a 480, runs 40% cooler, and 60% quieter.

>>56008740
Intel isn't competitive in the gaming segment.

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>buy RX470 on day one
>overpaid and everything
>it shows up
>insert card, boot
>looking good so far
>steam fails to load
>uhoh.jpg
>glxgears fails to run
>b-but muh open source drivers
>check AMD's site
>crimson drivers are Ubuntu only
>fedora drivers never
>hack option is downgrade X, install old buggy drivers, and pray to the machine gods
I used to buy Nvidia for the Linux drivers alone. I went team red fucking once and now I have to switch to lubuntu and deal with piss poor APT just to use my fucking card. If this isn't a fucking mind blowing improvement over my GTX660 I'm returning it and going back to team green.

>>56008740

Oh yeah intel atom was a great iGPU for modern PC gaming.

>>56008789
>>crimson drivers are Ubuntu only
>>fedora drivers never
Surely you can compile them yourself, right? Otherwise what's the point?

>>56008850
Proprietary drivers anon. AMD either releases the source or a binary blob and instructions. Instead I have a shell script that does a full stop when it detects Fedora and a shitload of .deb files.

I'm aggravated but not enough to return the card just yet. A lot of Linux users aren't going to hop on the *buntu bandwagon over this, and if AMD requires full on ubuntu & unity for its drivers to work you can bet your ass I'll shill nvidia for the rest of my life.

>>56008937
Edit the shell script.

Currently have a i5-6600k @ 4.4GHz with a 750ti, recently I've picked up a 1440p monitor. Deciding between a 1070 and a 1080 but not sure if the 1080 will be bottlenecked by the i5.

>>56009050
Nothing will be bottlenecked by your 6600k, except maybe the RX480.

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>>56009100

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What one to get? The EVGA is $409 and the Leadtek is $395.

>>56009313
>buying leadkek

>>56008308
Considering how many weeks ago this was reported and still not fixed I don't see it happening. Nvidia will just hope people forget about it.

>>56009313
who the fuck is Lewdtek?

>>56008750
Lies. See >>56004623

>>56005516
>9 power ports
i thought the joke would be the card would use one 8 pin port and then draw 600 watts from it

>>56008789
>100 different versions of Linux with varying system level optimizations/files and having to learn command line to get things working.
Why do you think so many people did not switch from Windows regardless of Linux being free?

>>56009313
Holy fuck Leadtek still exist?

>>56004150
/thread

>>56009513
It'll definitely come.

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>>56004178
wow a game no one will play
>>56004192>>56004234

wow a 3 frame difference wow technology came a long way

>>56004602
Vulcan only has two games, doom and shit 2

>>56008789
>gaymen on lincucks

>>56009753
>most popular racing game
>no one will play
retard

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>another GPU thread for (You)s
>193 / 43 / 66
I really hate you /g/.

1060s easily clock to 2100ghz and 4K memory. 480s overclock like shit

>>56008784
Skylake IGPs are between the GT730 and the 750, pretty damn good considering the whole CPU+IGP package takes not that many watts.

I can see Nvidia no longer selling much under the x50 series anymore as they didn't release a 940/930/920/910 for desktop like they used to do.

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If there was a mini version of the RX480 I'd get that over the 1060, but alas there is no such option.

Got pic related instead

Is GTX 970 still worth a buy? You can get it for 200 $ now.

>>56004263
>1060 faster than the 980
is this real?

Feels like yesterday we had 500/600 series cards and now we have 1000
Wake me up

>>56011417
Source/artist? Couldn't find any info.

So guys who are not pajheet shillers trapped on their designated shitting streets, which 1080/70 has the best pcb? I'd like to reduce gpu sag when I upgrade

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>>56011553
Dude you can diy the qtest mini card evur. The cooler is like 20 bucks or something.

>>56011498
>1060s easily clock to 2100ghz
that's a lie my 1060 is not stable at 2050mhz and max i can use is 2025mhz without crashes, however my memory is oced to 4498mhz and it gives 5-10 fps boost

>>56004132
Don't forget a gsync monitor costs $200 more than an equivalent freesync one

>>56012096
Let's be real here. If you're going to be buying a $700 high end gtx card and are going to pair it with a 1440p/4k 144hz monitor, you're going to

1. Be already very rich

2. Going to want the best monitor you can get

Gsync is superior by far compared to freesync which is buggy as fuck. You can't even do basic shit like play in windowed or windowed borderless with freesync.

>>56012380
Why would you need a $700 graphics card? The benefits of adaptive sync are all from having a lower framerate than your refresh rate. Besides who the fuck is playing games in windowed mode?

>>56004132
nvidia just wants to make money

amd actually wants to make a good product

>>56008784

they will be in a year or two once the gt4e starts to trickle into consumer parts. 72EUs clocked at ~1.2ghz could very well bring intel into 280x/gtx770 performance, which is faster than current console gpus and the low end (750ti/460)

>>56012019

your memory OC is holding back your core OC.

>>56004132
The same way mass consumers buys only cheerios even though the no name off brand is literally the exact same thing for half the price just with a different box.

People are morons. There's nothing that's going to change it outside of putting rat meat inside of them and ruining that brand's name.

>>56007073
300$ to Shintel every year and add a new motherboard biyearly.

>>56012465
Why would you buy a $300-$500 Gsync/freesync 1440p/4k 144hz monitor to pair up with a budget mainstream $200/$250 graphics card which can barely manage 60 fps at 1440p as it is?

>who plays windowed/windowed borderless mode

Anyone with more than one monitor. I don't know anyone who plays fullscreen anymore. I don't know anyone without atleast a second monitor too.

>>56012571
Because unlike a video card my monitor is going to last me at least 5 years, makes sense to get one I can grow into. Also having a second monitor obviates the need to play in windowed mode because any shit you might need to look at while gaming is already on it. Windowed mode adds a ton of input lag too, it's pretty silly just to save one second instead of alt tabbing.

>>56011581
no

>>56012675
Whatever man. To each their own. I'd happily pay that extra money for Gsync knowing everything works just fine compared to the alternatives which are known to be buggy and are missing a lot of features I like.

>>56004253
gets told,
calls this >memetext
▲
▲▲

isnt school back in?

>>56012886
newfag leave

>>56005102
Bought a r9 290 vapor x about a year ago for only 200$ on sale. Can't complain at all. I probably won't upgrade until vega or maybe a year after. Its still a pretty decent card.

I still remember how AMD fags were all saying how their card was going to be a 1080 killer and then it became a 1070 killer and now it's a "slightly cheaper almost as good as the 1060"killer

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I bought it because it was much cheaper than any custom RX 480 which aren't even in stock until September.
There really isn't a big difference between these cards, it all comes down to price and availability in your country.

>>56012481
>nvidia just wants to make money
>amd actually wants to make a good product
AMD just wants to stay afloat.
>Stock price: AMD (NASDAQ) $6.53 -0.07 (-1.14%)
>laughing whores.jpg

>>56013102
The gainward 1060 is insanely popular in eastern Europe. I know of a bunch of people who bought that exact same model. I guess it's the cheapest one.

>>56012886
kek

>>56013238
It was the cheapest model here in Germany I managed to get.
The cooler is actually pretty good, 3 heatpipes, heatsink covers VRM and memory, quiet fans which shut off when the card runs idle.
I honestly expected worse, if you want a fullsized 1060 this is a great card.

>>56004178
>>56004192
>>56004208
>>56004220
>>56004234
>>56004253
nvidia btfo

go home shills your campaign has failed. you have certainly not earned your rupees today.

>>56011852
Parasite Eve, Testuya Nomura, you know, of every FF since 7?

>>56007637
>keep compute in their consumer cards

what is that even supposed to mean?

>>56006235
>>56006196
>Comparing i7 4790k and i5 4460
You fucking moron. If you're going to compare a K processor, compare it to the other K processor.
i7: 38.4/34.0
i5: 37.6/33.0

>>56011852
look up mustard seeds on danbooru

>>56012545
it was never stable in the first place so i went with mem oc and it worked much better

>>56004234
You seem upset

>>56011930

That looks fucking disgusting.

Only semi related, but the perf/W gains that Nvidia made this gen pretty much runs AMD out of the mobile buisness entirely, though they were pretty much gone as it is.

According to leaks (go google it fucko) the 1070M will be on par with the desktop version, thanks to more cores to make up for the lower clocks, with the 1060M being only slightly behind its counterpart due to the same cores but a slightly lower clock.

I guess its not a big deal in the sense that AMD were already dead in the high end mobile end anyway, and it looks doubtful they'll be able to make a mobile GPU that can compete due to lower perf/W.

But as long as Nvidia doesn't go total jew (and lets face it, they might) that means you'll be able to pick up a laptop with an i5-6300HQ, GTX1060, and a mobo with an NvME slot for less than $1000, maybe even less than $750. I don't know about you, but that's about all the computing power I'm ever going to need.

>muh games

>>56004132
cuda

>>56004253
>Meme text

HAAH WAAW

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>>56004132
>MUH VRAM!!!
>MUH DX12!!!!

ITT: Shit that doesn't matter.
ITT: Copypasted AMDrone arguments.

>>56014418
Do you even know what those 2 things are you /v/tard?

>>56014428
Vram is how much RAM a GPU has, which doesn't fucking matter considering how a 3.5gb GTX 970 destroyed anything AMD could offer last gen.

DX12 is an API only a few games use, especially shitty games like "Hitman - the "Episodic" series" , but AMDrones like to show it off despite AMD being complete shit at DX11 or OpenGL.

Basically its just retarded AMDrone arguments that mean nothing, kinda like "Moar cores"

>>56004132
>>56014463
>>56014463
"destroyed"

a 290/390 would come close second, or beat it in most case, and the 290X/390X would be trading blows with the 980 before any overclocks.

Yes Nvidia has the advantage now, but doesn't mean AMD hasn't made competative products.

the 480 is trading blows with the 1060 pretty consistantly, while being same/cheaper.

Also more ram = faster ram.

>>56014735
>a 290/390 would come close second, or beat it in most case, and the 290X/390X would be trading blows with the 980 before any overclocks.

At much higher wattage and temps, more than you should be paying for with a midrange card. You need a fucking $100+ PSU just for those.

>>56014751
not really, they used only slightly higher power.

and the reason for that is because Nvidia removed allot of compute abilities.

remeber the house fire the 480 was? you know how they *fixed* it? simply cut out the compute abilities.

this why we see AMD beating Nvidia in Dx12.

same reason why the 290/290X was so popular for bit coin mining.

also I run my 390X off a $60 600w PSU with no problems, even have a nice 1150mhz on the core.

>>56014735
>while being same/cheaper.

Pfft no. The 1060 is significantly cheaper.

>>56014888
the 480 has a lower MSRP.

and if we look in NA, it is cheaper, significantly for the 4gb version.

in the EU from what I can tell, they're about the same for some reason

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Ok there's a EVGA SC 1070 at my local bestbuy for $450

Should I bite the bullet?

>>56014947
>in the EU from what I can tell, they're about the same for some reason

again, no. the aib 1060 is WAY cheaper than aib 480. see >>56013102 for a clear example.

>>56014888
Find me a 6GB GTX 1060 for less than $239.

protip: you can't

>>56004132
the 480 is fucking garbage

my friend fell for the meme, bought it for 300 euros and it performs worse than my 780ti on WoW

>>56014888
>lying on the internet

>>56015038
cheapest rx 480 in stock (£270)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/xfx-radeon-rx-480-gtr-black-edition-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-with-backplate-gx-23a-xf.html

cheapest gtx 1060 in stock (£235)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-mini-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-106-zt.html

that's a massive £35 (45 dollar, 40 euro) difference when the 1060 is also currently 10/15% faster. you also get a 2 year longer warranty with the 1060. you'd have to be legitimately thick in the head to pay more for the rx480 which is currently slower and has a shorter warranty length.

deluded fanboys will still defend the shitty 480 prices though. come at me.

>>56009501
Had one for 4 years, still runs great. Bro's Asus card(s) died within the same time period :^)
>>56009612
yeah mostly just ref stuff now but not bad if its cheap enough.

Easy, man. Intel/nvidea are for overclocking. If you have do desire to overclock cpu and gpu, then there is no reason to not buy AMD. However, Intel/Nvdea over clock way higher than amd does and if you plan to overclock, you get more for your money with Intel/nvidea.

>>56004132
I bought a 480. I seriously regret it.

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>>56015122
>Implying anyone gives a shit about bongistan

Why are aggregated game performance charts not good enough for /g/?

1060 clearly outperforms the 480 in *most* games. Not all games, most games. It's also more expensive.

>>56016333
Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong board, gayman board is several doors down

>>56005042
You still cant use AMD cards for the PCSX2 Opengl plugin due to shitty drivers

fucking Pajeet tech can't play games from 16 years ago.

>>56016090
It's Nvidia, Raj. Write it correctly or you wont get your daily check of Nvidiabux.

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>>56016613
>emulators

>>56015012
They are the same fucking price.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-radeon-rx-480-gaming-x-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32j-ms.html

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6g-gaming-x-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32k-ms.html

Why the fuck do you guys rage over graphics cards that are a used XBOX 1? Seriously it's about as stupid as arguing over whether the Big Mac or Whoopee is the better burger. Who gives a fuck, they're budget video cards. Are you that pathetically desperate to justify your purchase either way?

>>56016488
What are some applications of a GPU's resources that you use that are not gaming?

>>56016697
are you thick in the head or what? >>56015122

>>56016749

3D Rendering

>>56015122
How are the xfx gtrs looking?

>>56004132
Nothing uses anywhere near 6gb vram at 1080p or even at 1440p
The cards are not even fast enough to utilize that much vram
They are budget mid market, where mostly idiots shop.
Smart people bought either last seasons high end 4gb at discount or 4gb rx chips.

>>56016883
If I can get an 8gb rx 480 for £240 I might as well.

>>56016766
I'm not interested in the other partners tobehonestfam

>>56016799
Would it then be fair to say that for the vast majority of consumers, who are buying GPU's for gaming, the 1060 will perform better?

>>56017620
no

>>56017634
Why not?

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>>56014463
>GTX 970 destroyed anything AMD could offer last gen
nigga

>>56017658
Implying racing games matter and they're not just played by poor faggots who can't afford the real cars

When will they release the cheaper 470s? I don't want these OC riced out 200$ ones.

>>56017826
the $200 ones are almost as fast as a 480

>>56017851
Close doesn't cut it. 4gb 480s may never restock but I'd rather wait for those or get a 470 for less than 200.

I can buy an MSI Gaming X RX 470 *NOW* but I can't fucking buy a RX 480 by the same partner. This is fucking ridiculous!

>>56006572
I wish benchmarkers would point this problem out more, those $200 cards are oriented to people that have older cpu's that are >$200 in most cases.

>>56004192
That test is comparing it to a 1060

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>>56018007
Some do, but many don't in order to not fall out of AMDs favor.

Notice how with the i7 the AMD card is actually in the lead, but with an overclocked i5 or weaker it actually trails behind the nvidia.

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>>56018084
Kinda feel bad for AMD users.

Have 2 friends with AMD cards. One is 270x+ i3 4170 and another is 380x + i5 2500.

>>56018084
>>56018134

Problem is these are last gen cards, not saying it couldn't still hold true but I'm looking for more i5 based benchmarks with the 1060/ rx 480.

>>56018156
There aren't any I can find, but there is one that compares a phenom ii x4 and i5 750 to an i7 6700k iirc for gtx1060 and rx 480

>>56018177
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2016/07/how-much-your-old-cpu-slow-down-your-gtx-1060-or-rx-480/

>>56018177
Euch, i5 750 is too old to be relevant to my i5 4690k.

I might just get a 1060 to save the money on the leccy.

>>56018241
http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzne/premiera_amd_radeon_rx_480_polaris_test_karty_graficznej?page=0,18

Found this, hopefully you've got auto translate.

Looks like its less of an issue with the rx480. An i5 won't hold you back as much as it would if you had a 390

>>56018267
Ah brilliant.

Thank you very much, benchmarks are great showing full potential but also a bit irrelevant to the average user with batshit processors.

>>56004315
>not using openCL

>>56004595
What is openCL, What is Vulkan.

>>56018292
I've always found benchmarks questionable, my 680 + i7 870 somehow manages to outperform official review sites.

Probably updated drivers and shit though since I always wait for prices to drop before buying anything

>>56008308
Wow nvidia drivers are shit tier now. I was planning on a 1060 but i guess I'll get a 470 or 480. Better price and drivers at this point.

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>>56018406
>AMD
>Better drivers than Nvidia

>>56018334
I set myself a deadline to buy a card as I put it off for the past two years and I'll keep doing it.

September 1st on pay day. I'll only pick one with a reputable warranty though especially living in the UK.

>>56013773

You don't even understand basic GPU functions? My poor sweet summer child, what has Nvidia done to your brain?

>>56004253
Lrn2read timestamps faggot

>hey a budget card performs like shit
>HUH!? NANI?!
Are you fucking reddit or /g/? I thought you niggas were after cards like the GTX1080. You changed /g/, its like I dont know you anymore nigga.

>>56018428
Its true

The danke meme needs updating because now its nvidia with no drivers and AMD with house fires.

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>>56019007
>AMD
>drivers
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKK3K3K3K3K3K

>>56004132
it costs less to run it and won't destroy my motherboard. that's the only reason i'd pick current gen nvidia over current gen amd. prev gen and next gen is another story.

>>56018209
>nvidiots think kotaku is a credible source
wew lad

When is the new fury coming out? If its coming out in the next month or so I'll get it instead if a 1080 otherwise I'm not gonna wait.

>>56019598
impatient /v/ babby

>>56019076
It seems the XFX only has a 5 year warranty for the fans and not for the card in total. Zotac or EVGA it is.

>>56004132
There was the small but shitty non SC cooler EVGA 1060 for $217 earlier today. Was a little mad at first, since I just ordered a msi gaming x rx470 for $168. But that MSI is a beast cooler that is dead silent at full load overclocked apparently, that never drops boost, and the 470 gets twice the performance increase from OC as the 1060 does. And I saved ~$50 and amd tends to age better so I'm not mad. 2gb loss pains me, but at 1080p it'd probably not huge.

>>56019048
jeez, did you lose a screw? i didn't realize nvidiots were such hotheads.
now i AM buying amd, no second thoughts.

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>>56019929
NO COME BACK GOYIM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>56019895
are msi's "gaming x" cards just binned cards? they have the same cooler as their regular "gaming" cards but they're usually $20-$30 more and have higher factory clocks. i was thinking about getting a regular gaming 1060 and overclocking it but i'm wondering if they're playing silicon lottery with with their pascal/polaris cards

>>56019895
Is it shitty due to the lack of heat pipe(s)?

One review I'd seen for the SC seemed alright.

>>56019982
3d guru said it was the best overclocking 470 they got, and I don't think they really tweaked it well enough since thetheven admit the review was rushed. And I trust that site for benchmarks before just about anyone else, even though they seem to lean slightly green.

I think the 480 chips suffered bad yields in addition to a shit reference, and there's a shitload of binned 470s on aftermarket boards and shrouds for cheap as a result.

Look in the back pictures of the non SC small 1060, it looks like it has no heat pipes and very little fins. Not hating on it. I would have gladly snagged that deal.

>>56019953
This has got to be the worst meme I've ever seen on g

>>56020005
For $10 more, the SC model is the one to get. It uses the 960 shroud instead of the borderline useless 950 shroud. Neither are the best options, to be honest. Even if you have to spend $10 more.

>>56018428
Pretty true unless youre buying games on day one. Nvidia tend to have better drivers first and fast for particular games. But AMD cards seem to age better beyond the 2 year mark. Both definitely have their merits, though amd seems slightly less evil.

>>56020598
I understand that idea, I do that very rarely only one I've done that with this is Deus Ex Mankind Divided.

>>56020598
That's because Nvidia drivers are already good, but AMD drivers gain more performance with better processors.

Look to driver overhead, there's a reason why the HD7950 is so much faster on the 6700k compared to a gtx 670.

Part of it is having more vram, and 384 bit, and better parallelism for dx12, but in dx11 the main advantage is reduced overhead with a better processor.

>>56020796
Well, as someone that overshot because of the shitty cpu market and a good deal, I got a steal on a 6600k that runs less than a degree centigrade above ambient at idle at stock; I'm literally cool with that. Probably sell my GPU for $110 in two years if the market as a disappointing as it now.

>>56020796
So there's still and advantage with dx 12 ?

>>56004132

dat feel when i got my msi 980 a year ago for 350, welp gonna wait for another black friday sale for a better card

>>56020987
The OCed 470 trades blows or outright beats the OCed 1060 in dx12 about a quarter the time, I'd guess based on benches. For much less.

We will see if AMD Fanboys are right about vulkan and DX12 adoption. I can't wait to see how far I can push my 470 clocks. I think it will be the price performance king at some point. If you want VR, fuck the 470, 480, and 1060 (though the 1060 would be your best bet there). Grab a 1070 or 1080 or fucking wait.

>>56021164
AMD definitely has an advantage in dx12, but don't forget that GCN itself relies on a powerful cpu to scale well too.

A 480 and 1060 should be about even with a 3470 though, so anything newer than that will be plenty.

>>56021164
I think DX 12 will be adopted but less so Vulkan probably on familiarity.

>>56021220
I shall find out soon when Sapphire Nitro's are out in the UK.

>>56013795
You fucking moron we're comparing performance loss on AMD and Nvidia with the same i7, i5 and i3 processors.

>>56013795
Just to make things easier for you:

Nvidia performance loss from i7 4790k to i3-4170 (crysis 3): 0,8 / 1
AMD performance loss from i7 4790k to i3-4170 (crysis 3): 8,9 / 10

>>56021220
I have an unbelievably chilly 6600k so I'll be fine on overhead. It really does depend on your specific situation. As a whole, this generation is mildly disappointing though. expected more from a die shrink. 1050ti might be a slaughterhouse if it's released, but that might be 8 months down the road with the paper launches we've been seeing, with accompanying price inflation.

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>>56004132

I like how /g/ slams nvidia shills

while hardcore shilling AMD themselves

/g/ is so hypocritical is sad senpai

>>56021703

The shilling is pretty equal in intensity tbdesu fampai.

>>56021699
Price inflation isn't that bad, I saw a 1060 for $260 in stock at newegg 2 days ago. Aftermarket, not FE.

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>>56021220
>GCN itself relies on a powerful cpu to scale well too
Holy shit how many graphs proving the opposite do you have to see before you quit meming?

>>56021764
That doesn't even register on my radar.

The real deal was grabbing a good >one fan shroud 1060 when they dropped on newegg for $225 after the PayPal coupon. Or the Sapphire fury for $275 or fury x for $300.