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What are you rockin' right now? What are you buying?

Just got an used 280x to replace my 760, only to realize what I run heavily favors Nvidia's design. Literally the same performance between the two, when the 280x should be able to surpass even the 960. Not only that, but also this specifically sends the amd's power consumption through the roof.

Oh well, fuck up to learn I guess. Shame really, wanted to try amd this time after 2 nvidias, but what I need it to do really doesn't do it any favors.
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Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X. Special version that was not factory clocked to get it here faster during the coin mining epidemic of 2014. It was slightly cheaper but it does not overclock well (1120/1600). I would like a MSI RX 480 to sidegrade to until Vega. I know it sounds silly but I just fancy a change of GPU and want to see if I can burn past 1400Mhz using the new Afterburner when it arrives.
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>>55966604
Running a 280x, and I still do not see a proper reason to upgrade.
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>>55966692
Depends on the games you play I guess plus what your systems specs are overall. Rise of the Tomb Raider and The Witcher 3 brings my R9 290 (as described above) to it's knee's when maxed out. I hate having to turn shit down a notch or two to get playable fps. Plus overclocked it sounds like a fucking vacuum cleaner.
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>>55966604
I have an R9 390 and I'm thinking of ditching it and getting a GTX 1070 instead.

I'm not sure it'll be worth it with Directx 12 and Vulkan getting more and more popular in the future.
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970. No point in upgrading to 480 - that card is 5% ahead in some games, dead even in most of them. No point in upgrading to 1060, same price, 15% performance gain over 2 years - yea no. 1070 is too expensive for my personal taste so I guess I could sell my 970 for something like 150 quid and add another 200 but honestly I don't feel like it. At this point I'll probably till 2017 when real HBM2 cards come out.
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Awaiting a Fury Nitro ($350) to go with my 6600k to kill demons in 1440p.
first build no bully
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>>55966864
will wait* till 2017. Why to fuck I have tendency to eating entire words is beyond me.
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>>55966864
Yeah might as well wait it out.
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>>55966604
Just replaced my GTX 460 with a 770 for 100 bucks

did I do good?
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>>55966692
I was also expecting it to last for a while, but it was surprising and disappointing to see how much it fell behind on my use case.

I run 2 monitors, I game from time to time, but the only thing I'm playing right now is Ark. On the second screen I always have some Twitch stream open.
Now, there are no current benchmarks for Ark, so from some older ones the 280x would gain around 30% compared to the 760. But the game is still an alpha and it's clearly being tailored to nvidia, as the 2 cards have right now literally the same performance.
Then there's Twitch, still using flash for some fuck reason. I have a power meter around, so I tested the consumption of both cards.
Running an i7 4790, 16gb of ddr3, ssd+hdd on a seasonic 620w, I tested the power draw for the whole desktop, minus screens. I got 90W for the pc with the 760. I knew the 280x would be higher, but expected around 120-130 or so.
I even repeated this 3 or 4 times to make sure, turned out the 280x was making the pc draw 170W just from streaming a flash video. That's a lot, especially when our electricity is expensive as fuck, and the pc is most of the time like this.

From quick math I did, the extra 80W would end up at around an extra 60€/year. Give it 3 years and I could use it to buy a new card.

Reinstalled the 760 for now, and the 280x is up for sale. I really wanted to try amd this time, but the difference is just way too much.
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Just upgraded to the R9 fury nitro when they went on sale from a 6970
>>55966748
From the crimson control panel turn down Witcher 3's tesselation to x16 or x8 the default for goyworks is x64
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I have an old 7850 1gb i got for free, ive only kept it because I would would for the new generation (radeon 480 and gtx 10xx) to finally upgrade.

Then comes the 480, which seems half assed, and then the gtx 1060 which isnt that much faster anyway.

>480
fast, but inefficient, not even sure if my I5-6500 can power it (it favors i7's)
>1060
fast, efficient, but DX12/vulkan performance is still a dark horse, the issue with nvidia abandoning it later.

The 480 and 1060 is the max my budget can take, and it needs to last a few years, and I cant hardly wait another year for HBM2 memory models.

Sigh... this new series of cards werent the bang I expected.
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>>55966604

Just got am R9 Nano for my mITX to run 3440x1440.

Observations so far:
Has coil whine. Fan drowns it out but it is noticable.
Fan is pretty loud to hold it at 75C under load.
Probably should have got full-size Fury.

Now playing with undervolting it as much as possible to try and get the temp and fan level down.
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which third party rx 470 is the best?
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>>55967000
MSI
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>>55967029
why is it a better deal than the nitro+ or the asus strix one?
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I don't see a need to upgrade my 750ti
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>>55967043
Are those 2 or 3 years old? That's good they hold their value as long. Some guy on craigslist is selling his for $70 because he 'upgraded' to a 960, kek
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>>55967040
Quieter/cooler
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>tfw 61.4% asic quality
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>>55967000
The one you can get cheapest. Except for the Nitro they're all quite decent otherwise.
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>>55966604
1070 here
I'm good for a few years
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I had to settle for the second best.
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>>55967069
i think they were released in '12? I'm not too sure
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Would an rx 480 be enough to run games at 1440p at 144hz freesync? Seems to be pushing it, I'm considering a 1070 instead but it's about a $150-200 difference at this point.
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>>55967135
Nah anon, that shit is only 2 years old. It released in 2014
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>>55967163

Seriously doubt it, at least for max settings.
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>>55967163
Definitely not.

Why the fuck do you want freesync anyways? It's shit and induces a shit ton of input lag.
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>>55967122
>Hero
Why do people do this? I have the Z170-A and seems just fine.
>>55967163
Nope. That coupled with how I can't buy the one I want led me to drop another $70 and get the Fury instead. I believe as more demanding games come out that the 1440p performance would start taking a hit. So I didn't want to go at 1440p half-cocked.
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>>55966692
I know that feeling, but since mine is about to kick the bucket I took the plunge and finally ordered a new card. Tahiti really was the 2500k of GPUs, I wonder when we will see such a great one again.
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>>55967163
That depends.
Dota, modded Skyrim, Overwatch and CS:GO? Sure, no problem I'd guess.
Witcher 3 and whatever other tripple A game is "in" currently? No chance, you'll have trouble reaching 144hz with a 1070.
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>>55966864
I wanted to SLI my 970, but because we're expecting a RX 490 at the end of the year, I'm waiting for that (hopefully) and then get a couple of them.
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>>55967163
My 1080 can barely handle 1440p 144hz in most games. I doubt a 1070 is going to be able to do it.
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980 ti here, gets 21k in regular firestrike (graphics score) w/ 1440p 144hz monitor

If i do upgrade, i'll probably get a 1170 (not a typo, I do mean 1170) just to hold me off till next die shrink. Unless the 1100 series will be a die shrink, at that point i'll wait for 1180ti.
Or I may go back to amd gpus if they do high end right.

TLDR. Don't see the point of upgrading for another 2-3 years
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>>55966604
Still have my 7950. Still don't know what to upgrade to.
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Just got a 980Ti, came out roughly equivalent too 400USD, way better price/perf than a 1070 here.

Love it so far, finally I can play games that my 2GB 770 crapped out on like Hitman™.
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>>55967228
Because I wanted a better sound card, and more stability while overclocking.
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currently have PowerColor Radeon HD4850.
Too poor to upgrade
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>>55967406
Fair enough.
Honestly I wish I'd just went with a poo in loo processor to learn how to OC with and take it from there, but the longer I waited, the more all of the higher-priced components just seemed more normal to me.
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Figure we'll see a 1060Ti or 490 soon? something that sits in between the 1060 and 1070 in terms of price and performance.
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>buy used 390 for 300€ from a guy who payed 380€ for it
>starts crashing on me
>eventually after 2 months of arguing with warranty service, get it refunded - full 380€ back to me.
>after deciding what to get for one week - ordered 1060 for 320€ just now

how did i do
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>>55967277
>>55967333
Damn. Well I guess I'd be fine with an IPS 1440p 60hz setup, but everyone's always telling me I should get a 144hz monitor for competitive games.
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>>55967517
I'd have gone with the 1070 tbqh familia.
At least here it's just 430€ for a decent partner model and it's much more powerfull than a 1060. Except for that, good job.
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I think i'm leaning towards a 1060, and i know it's dumb, but half the reason is because it's one of the quietest cards available.
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>>55967319
Please don't. 490x will be a dual GPU card, not only it will run like ass in any game that doesn't optimize for xf and SLI but having two of them means even more diminishing returns (IF it will be even possible).
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Right now I got an Asus GTX 960 Strix 2GB. I'm getting some extra money soon and will probably upgrade to a 1070. I've been looking at the Gigabyte G1 Gaming one and it seems pretty good. Some reports of a little coil whine, while some have no coil whine issues. Otherwise it seems like an average 1070, good performance and average noise, efficiency temperatures.

What do you guys think about that card? I got a Fractal Design Define R5 case which has the bitumen sound dampening, so I guess if I had a card with coil whine it would probably not be as big as an issue.
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>>55967319

rx 490 is vega 10, it won't be released until q1 next year at the earliest. longer if HBM2 gets eaten up nvidia's tesla cards.
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>>55967615
If I were going for a 1070, I'd go all the way and get a Zotac/EVGA for the longer guarantee.
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>>55967445
If you really want to learn, buy a cheap as shit second hand PC from ebay and go wild.
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[spoiler]I've spent 20 000 hours+ in WoW[/spoiler]
[spoiler]levelled at least 100 characters across many retail realms and private servers[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I have a 980TI and 3440x1440 monitor with over 50 games in Steam library that I haven't even started playing[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Never been a neet and it's not like I don't have time (literally working 36 hours a week) while being a single but holy fuck I think something breaks in you when you've spent so much time on video games. Only games that still give me joy are MMOs and autistic strategy games like EU4, Stellaris and Civ5. [/spoiler]
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>>55967653
Do the companies have their own warranty program to the cards? I live in Finland and never really done any warranty stuff on anything I own so I know jackshit about warranties and where they apply.
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Have a 7850. Definitely will get a 470 if I can find one for less than $200
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>>55967538
I bought a AOC Q2577PWQ for £220. It's AH-IPS panel, with 5ms response time. 1440p 60Hz, but I've got it overclocked to 80Hz.
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>>55966677
>want to see if I can burn past 1400Mhz using the new Afterburner when it arrives.

reviewers can't even get 1400mhz and they're using golden chips, most normal 480s will struggle to reach 1300mhz.
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I'm thinking of buying Sapphire RX470 because too poor for RX480
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>>55967678
Since you're from an EU country, the seller is obligated to cover you for the first 2 years, which coincidentally is the length of most warranties in the EU.
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>>55967678
Well you can extend your warranty for 20€ to 5 years with EVGA (40 for 10, which I chose, since I'll actualy be using it for so long, or rather, my family) and 5 years after you registered your product on Zotacs page, at least it's like that in germany, maybe some dude from finland can confirm.
If the EVGA goes to shit in say 7 years (which isn't that unrealistic) you usually get a card of the new gen as replacement (if it's a 480 you're sending in, you won't get a 1080, obviously, but something like a 1050, which is nice I think).
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>>55967480
Unless Nvidia decides to pull another 660 Ti, 1060 Ti's not happening.

There are rumors the RX 490 could be a dual Polaris 10 card, like what the HD 5970 was to the 5870.
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>>55967741
bullshit familai
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>>55967597
No it won't retard
Post one piece of evidence, just one. This is just a /g/ meme gone too far
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my GTX1060 arrives this wednesday

how much time do I have before its delegated to Legacy status? Heard that Volta is coming as soon as in April/May 2017
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Planning to upgrade from a r9 380 to either a gtx1080, gtx1070, or 2 way r9 nano xfire. Target is ultrawide 1440p at 60hz minimum with all settings maxed. What do? Or should i wait for amds big league card like the 490 or whatever to come out first and then reconsider?
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>there will never be another nvidia dual gpu card
I just want a gtx 1090 lads
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>>55967812
A few weeks?
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390 here, going to rx 490 since im on freesync
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>>55966604
I'm currently using Asus Strix GTX 970. I'm planning on upgrading to EVGA GTX 1080 FTW but I'm currently waiting for the availability to get better.
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R9 270 died two weeks ago, waiting on RX 480 stock
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i borrowed a sapphire r9 380 from a friend, and i was thinking on buying a xfx r9 380x, should i still go for it or get something like the saphire(used).

in my country the gpu market is all fucked up so there are not many good deals.
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>>55967741
>struggle to reach 1300mhz

What? Most custom AiB come with ~1350mhz out of the box.
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>>55966890
pls respond
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Rocking this baby.

Bought it 3 weeks ago since it was the same price as an RX 480 Reference edition. Its Bretty gud, achived solid 1180Mhz with No artifact (Artifact starts at 1190-1200).

Temperature around 77-80 C° at factory fan curve. It reached 83 one day but that because it was a fucking hot day (39 C°)

When Overclocked, its around 82 and 85

My NZXT S340 has a pretty bad airflow...

Idling around 63 which is kinda weird because my Sapphire R9 280 Idled around 35-40.

MSI Gaming App is a joke, please don't use it (Causes Microsutters)
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>>55967914
You dun fucked up m8
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>>55966890
Good price/perf for $100, you did alright.
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>>55967914
I probably wouldn't have paid 100$ for that upgrade, but other than that you got a decent upgrade, although the 770 isn't that fast either.
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>>55966957
I'm in the exact same boat. except have a 3930k(Managed to get it for $200 in '12) But i'm in no rush. Been leaning towards the 480 though to try out freesync.
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>>55967817
A-anyone?
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>>55967817
Don't do crossfire, it'll make your life miserable.
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>>55967968

Re-paste it. If it's idling at 60+C something is fucking wrong somewhere
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>>55968164
That's what i keep hearing, but can you give me any details as to why?
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>>55966604
just got a gigabyte 7970 ghz edition with arctic accelero xtreme for $95 off ebay

sidegrading from an asus gtx670 in my hackintosh
>dat fp64
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>>55967538
Sorry man, I can't help you with that.
It really depends, are you more a scenery guy, or do you like smoother action scenes?
IPS is better for scenery, TN for smoother action.
>>55968135
1440p at ultrawide will be hard. I wouldn't buy any SLI/Crossfire crap. Maybe the new titan. It is able to play the newest shit on 4K I heard, so 1440p should be no problem.
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Currently running a Tri-X R9 290. Do we have a release date for Vega yet?
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>>55968193
A decent amount of games don't support it and never get updated to support it, and it can cause problems in games that do support it such as some graphical glitches or bad frame pacing.

Not directly related to crossfire, but my SLI setup also gave me issues with multiple monitors and running SLI together.
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Should I spend $140 on an i3-6300 and a used $150 R9 380X, or spend $60 on an Athlon X4 845 and a $230 GTX 1060 instead?
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i still like my 390, though it does heat up the room after a few hours, just wish i didn't buy the gigabyte version (it was the cheapest and i bought it on a whim)

definity glad i didn't go gtx 970
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>>55968285
*definitely
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>>55968259
Adding to the question - is having higher minimal fps but lower overall fps better than lower minimal fps with higher overall fps?
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>>55968443
higher overall fps is key because some scenes tend to fuck up different architectures
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>>55968510
Explain in a non-retarded way
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>>55968524
benchmark scene a

amd card: 34 min fps because higher vram

nvidia card: 16 min fps because vram too low


benchmark scene b

amd card: 19 min fps because slower tesselation

nvidia card: 35 min fps because faster tesselation

overall benchmark score

amd card: 55 avg fps

nvidia card 55 avg fps
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Bought an MSI 4GB RX470 for $168 shipped off jet.com, but the site seems sketchy as fuck. Here's hoping I get my card.
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So is the RX 480 really in short supply because of memecoin miners?
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>>55968586
A 1060 has more VRAM than a 380X, but an i3-6300 is more powerful than an X4 845. So would an X4 845 with a 1060 be better overall than an i3-6300 with a 380X?
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>>55968642
this varies per game basis.


overall you could say that amd cards are more future proof.

good dx12 and vulkan implemented game will easen up the cpu demand for games so you should go with whatever card is cheaper for the performance
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>>55968631

Yes, they've been buying them by the literal dozens each.
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>>55968642
Powerful for what? Depends if you will be primarily gaming or not. For most games, CPUs are not the limiting factor so the cheaper processor and faster GPU is better
For general workloads it's the other way round
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>>55966604
I hope you learned your lesson. Never buy AMD, they are garbage cards.
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Guys could one justify buying a 1070 for 1080p? I wanna upgrade my 680 because it's no longer cutting it for high/ultra. I was thinking about a 1060 at first, but it would cost around 300 for a decent one. The cheapest 1070 from palit is 420 bucks which isn't that much more, honestly. Or is that card too overpowered for 1080p?
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>>55968691
I thought the cryptocoin bubble popped long ago. I guess this means I won't be buying a used card either, since I don't want a card that's been running at 100% load 24/7.
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>>55968709
I'd say it's pretty future proof for 1080p.
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>>55968176
Its voids my warranty in my country. To take the cooler apart
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>>55968709
If you think about it, you're future proofing your setup. A bit more money now and you're set when you want to upgrade your monitor eventually. I think it's worth it.
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>>55968726
There's always a cryptocoin in demand. It was bitcoin, now ethereum is the new hotness, and in the future it will be something else.

Also, there is still debate if constant load is healthier or not for cards than load spikes.
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Because rx 480s are basically nonexistent, I decided to just go for the sapphire nitro r9 Fury since Amazon had them for $345.
But for some reason the card shot up to nearly $500 in just a day. Why is it so difficult to get a hand on any of these cards? Is coin mining really that much of a factor?
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>bought a 7950 like 4 years ago
>playing at 1080p and still no major reason to upgrade

pc hardware is so boring now
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>>55968747
Also I did this against further sagging. Will buy new Mobo when Vega/Zen Releases

>tfw I am tempted to buy a mini Sider man lego
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Waiting for my 1080 is torture. Won't be shipped for another two weeks at least. I blew a lot of money on an entirely new build, and it would be sweet, but it's bottlenecked by my shitty old 580. Such a disappointing card. I just want to forget it already.
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>>55968798
1070 is widely available now, I'd go for that if you want to buy something good easily.

There are also a few 1060s in stock

Check nowinstock.net
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>>55968707
>Never buy AMD, they are garbage cards.
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>>55968833
Unless you want to pay $300+ for a 1060, you'll have to wait until the coming week.
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>>55968801
Find someone who's got 2560x1440 or 4k screens, use them for a while. 1080p will look like an ass-backwards pixelfest afterwards. You won't consider it a high resolution any longer. Not just for games, even shitposting on /g/ will be unbearable in anything below 2560x1440.
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>>55967220
Retard detected. You run Freesync with vsync off and get near zero lag and no tearing or stuttering with the Freesync range. If you have a 35-144Hz Freesync monitor for instance you will get no issues between those framerates and anything higher you can limit the framerate and anything lower AMD's low framerate compensation kicks in.
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>>55968815
Christ man
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>>55968993
Its a heavy card man
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>>55969044
Not just the card, the cables, misc match ram, etc. Are you even trying?
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>>55969063
Alright not sure whats wrong with the cables, but whats wrong with the RAM. Dual channel is only good for some application, none of them I use
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There's a bunch of guys who just come into these threads to shit on AMD. Every God damned time. I hate you cunts. You have NOTHING of worth to add to any thread. You are purely here to shill and shitpost. I hope your die from some disease for not pooing in the loo.

The OP asked nicely for some sensible posting but nope! You just have to come in here and post your shit.

Pure cancer.
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So is there a AMD card coming out this year? Or will it just be Vega in early 2017? I want to upgrade from my 770 and I'm tired of waiting.
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>>55969088

He probably means

>muh aesthetics
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>>55969120
Someones angry. Get a journal.
>your thread
Is your name on it?
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>>55969120
Nobody should make the horrible mistake of buying an AMD card. It's everyone's responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen.
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>>55969135
You say that like there is anything wrong with wanting your shit to look nice
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>>55969141
No but OP asked nicely and all you have to add is 'AMD is garbage'. Well guess what? Your comments are garbage and add no value to this thread so fuck off and die in a fire.
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Will a gtx 1070 keep me in the max zone/60 fps of games for the next 3-5 years? I've pulled from other builds to try to maximize that card. Can anyone comment on this builds synergy?

Also, should I be going for a higher wattage power supply?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rf9q3F
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>>55969151
Nobody should make the horrible mistake of buying an Nvidia card. It's everyone's responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen.
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>>55968853
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>>55969153
I mean no offense but in black case the cable managment is completly hidden. Even the fishing lines
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>>55969167
AMD is garbage though
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This generation is pretty strange with the advent of dx12/vulkan/async against nvidia's brute force power.

A gamble in fact between betting on async taking off, or playing safe with nvidia's strengths.
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>>55969194
True I guess
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>>55966761
It's not worth it to change yet. Youre 390 vs a 1070 are having the largest performance gaps theyll ever have right now.

If you have the 390 now it's would suit you best to stick for one more generation.

If you must upgrade there's no point going to the 1070, you should go for the 1080 so that it will be an actual upgrade.
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>>55969212
Nvidia 10 series does async great. In fact it is better than anything by AMD at DX12.
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>>55969194
That type of thing would bug me though
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>>55969200
Get a trip so I can filter you shitstain
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>>55966957
>fast, but inefficient, not even sure if my I5-6500 can power it (it favors i7's)
can people stop it with this fucking bullshit. you don't need a fucking pile of shit skylake i7. it doesn't favor it. it doesn't favor anything. as long as you're not running a potato from fucking 2009 with core 2 quad performance you are fucking fine. fucking shit /g is full of blatant imbeciles that parade around acting like they know shit.

>tldr
all you need is a 2500k or higher. technically a 3ghz nehalem. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.
>tldr #2
all pic shows is the processor bottlenecking the 480. this is NOT a driver overhead issue as explained above. with async enabled, the 480 processes a lot of data and the potato processor x4 955 from 2009 with core 2 quad level of performance cannot keep up with the 480's async.
>tldr #3
nvidia does not have async enabled in doom - vulkan. all it benefits from is less driver overhead compared to opengl. this is why the increase from opengl to vulkan with both the 955 and 750 is the same 12fps. if you looked, with the 955 the increase on the 480 too is 10fps. similar to the 1060. with the 750 the 480 jumps to a 18fps increase, higher than the 1060's, because it enters a level of cpu performance that's able to start keeping up with the 480's async performance.
>tldr #4
i don't understand why they went from a 09/10 processor all the way up to essentially 2015/16 processor. little more than half a decade of improvements. but honestly, by seeing the leap from the awful 955 (core 2 quad level) to 750 (2.6ghz first gen nehalem), a 2500k should be more than enough. and if its the k, there is zero reason why it should not be overclocked to a minimum of 4.2ghz with a 212 evo slapped to it.
>tldr #5
all you need is a 2500k or higher. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.
>tldr #7
you don't need the latest and greatest i7 even in dx11.
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>>55969153

Never said I did. I like my cable management as well, but more to help airflow than anything else, don't really go as far as having to look perfect.
If you like to do it, more power to you I guess.
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>>55969243
>Comparing a 1070 to a 480
>In Time Spy no less
You are really reaching
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>>55966957
maxwell ~~~~~level~~~~~ power efficiency is now all of a sudden inefficient? yeah 1060 uses less power but for fuck sakes 970 - 980 level of power efficiency is fantastic considering amd went from keplar level to maxwell. thats a huge drop.
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>>55967968
i have the same card and i also thought having it at 1160 didn't artifact. it was fine until i tried firestrike or crysis3
if it works it works but id try it on those to see if it is truly stable
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>>55969263
Now post the Vulkan chart Pajeet.
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>>55969248
Heres a picture with the case heavy lighted with 2 lamps

>>55969248
What thing? The different Ram? Well yeah. But honestly its not that bad
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>>55969129

We're not even sure when Vega will actually release. Best-case scenario is currently October, worst is only in 2017.
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>>55967914
could have had a 7970 for that price and done much better
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>>55967348
Unlock to a 7970 in bios family, if possible it will at least pet you hold off for a while longer.
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>>55966604
Rockin' a Kepler based GTX Titan from 2013, I ordered 2 x GTX 1080, getting them on tuesday.
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What is a good cpu for a pc budget of around £600?
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>>55967414
89 bucks can get you a 7970 which can go a long way. Just check eBay.
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>>55967968
>NZXT S340 has a pretty bad airflow

Don't get how people are still falling for the memes on pc hardware still.
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>>55969329
I doubt they're releasing it this year. It might've been their original plan and hence the rumours but if they really had october release secured they'd be hyping it up already.
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>>55969348
>Bought a Titan >>55967984
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>>55969386
Well what Case has good airflow?
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I'm still rocking a GTX 460. I have no idea what to upgrade to. I thought the RX480 would be a no-brainer, but seeing as my PSU is 400w I might give it a break and go with a 1060. On the other side, the RX470 is way cheaper, and only slightly slower, so... I'm seriously lost.
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>>55969348
Dual GPU has no future anon
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The difference between a GTX 1060 and RX 480 is pretty marginal when run in default state. Here we can see both MSI Gaming X GPU's for the GTX 1060 and RX 480 are pretty close in Time Spy. That is only a 50 point difference which is pretty small really. If you ran the benchmark a few times no doubt you would get varying results. With recent AMD driver optimizations that lead will further narrow. 16.8.1 beta is already showing significant gains. In fact I can predict even the 470 will be chomping at the 1060's heels in a few months time.

Nvidia shills BTFO.
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Gigabyte gtx 1080 xtreme
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>>55969168
>Will a gtx 1070 keep me in the max zone/60 fps of games for the next 3-5 years?

it will keep you at 60fps if you drop some demanding video settings for well over 3-5+ years assuming nvidia don't gimp it through drivers, like literally any other med-high end video card ever

the amd 7970 ($500 ish at launch dec 2011) will still pull punches compared to something like the gtx 960 ($200 ish at launch jan 2015) 3 years later on modern games like fo4/mgsv and will still pull 60 on high if you drop some demanding settings (like tessellation/godrays on fo4)

if you want >60fps on max settings for years then you'll have to buy the literally highest end consumer card as it's released (such as the new titan x/1080ti coming out eventually) or go sli/crossfire, otherwise you drop graphics settings like a sane person
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>>55967817
If you're planning to go 3440x1440 then a 1070 should net you 70-90 FPS in most games.
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>>55969431
Why is there no AMD card to compete with GTX 1070 and 1080
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>>55969431
Amd always does well in benchmarks, real world tends to come up short.
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>>55969468
Because Nvidia is super scared of AMD so they released the products early.

Don't forget wait for the 490 in 2019
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>>55969468
Because they wanted to target the midrange sector and they are a smaller company than Nvidia.
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Running crossfire 7970 GHz over clocked to max in crimson (1350) with an i5 3570k.

Feeling #comfy over here familia.
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>>55969243
>1070 improves by ~300 points
>480 improves by ~400 points
>nvidia is better at async
You're retarded.
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>>55969471
OK so why do Nvidia shills keep posting Time Spy as their 'proof'? I just BTFO that argument and you now switch tactics to games which we have all been saying is where the proof of the pudding lies. For DC12 and Vulkan AMD wins every time. For DX11 Nvidia does. But the times they are a changing sonny boy.
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I really wish amd was viable in the upper tier cpu/gpu market. They just arnt viable outside of poorfags or shills. With the used intel market in mind, I'm not sure why anyone would ever purchase a amd cpu.
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>>55969320

Thanks hungry skeleton, please take my gains.
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>>55969468
Fury X can actually beat the 1070 in Vulkan benchmarks.
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>>55969250
Can't handle the truth? Just look at the benchmarks and tests, AMD is objectively garbage.
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>>55969431
I predict in a few months time the 1060 will be even faster, over 50% faster than the 480.
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>>55969535
I'm not a shill posting any proof for middle tier poorfag cards. I bought a 1080, what can amd sell me? I'm just been around long enough to know better than play with amd. I'm experienced the regret first hand in buying a inferior amd gpu.

>never
>again

I am however curious about zen. Hopes remain low.
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>>55969535
AMD gets destroyed in benchmarks and in games.

Honestly there is nothing AMD does that is good anymore.
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>>55969585

Take your fanboyism back to /v/
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>>55969615
Same. I got a 390, then was forced to return it because the heat output was ridiculous. Got a 970 and it was great.

Almost got a 480 before it came to light it was killing motherboards.

Never gonna trust AMD again after that disaster.
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>>55969607
that chart is already out of date
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>>55969607
I predict the opposite. That or Nvidia will EoL the 1060 in 6 months.
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>>55969657
It's probably going to be even worse.

The 1060 will be 150% better than the 480.

Then AMD will go bankrupt and the 480 will get no support at all anymore.
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>>55969615
>You already have your GPU
>Comes in here trying to say AMD are not targeting him
You've made your purchasing choice so fuck off.
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>>55969644
Yep, that's before you get to the terrible drivers and +1% overclock makes your pc an hero
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>>55969677
>What are you rockin' right now?

I'm here researching amd's answer to the 1070, 1080, or titan
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>>55969619
If you're not factoring it price for performance then you're not doing what this thread is supposed to be about.
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>>55969730
Don't bother you are arguing with trolls. You won't get an objective discussion out of them. They are here purely to shitpost.
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>>55969761
>the truth is shitposting

Sorry you can't handle objective facts.
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>>55968176
There isn't. The thing is designed to turn its fans off when it drops to 60c.
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>>55969730
Price for performance is a useless metric.

For example, you can buy really old GPUs for pennies that have some of the best price performance out there.

But they are worthless because they can't even play modern games well.

A much better metric is to choose the best card for the target you're trying to hit.

For example, 1080p at 60 fps.

This is where Nvidia wins everytime - cards that actually perform the best in the real world.
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just bought 2 r9 285 instead of 2 rx480 which will arrive thursday

ama
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>>55969799
How does it feel to be dumb?
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>>55969795

>For example, you can buy really old GPUs for pennies that have some of the best price performance out there.

You are really not going there, are you?
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>>55969810
actually i think i made a very interesting and inteligent choice

i paid 100€ and 115€ each card
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>>55967758
>the seller is obligated to cover you for the first 2 years
no i see why the UK left the EU
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ASUS R9 R9 290 DirectCU II OC.

Waiting for Vega.
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>>55966604
Machine learning fag here. Will AMD ever get its act together and put out something that can compete with Nvidia on machine learning applications or have they just entirely given up on that market?
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>>55969795
You are a dumb cunt who does not deserve anything but this insult. Here's your (You).
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These are the components of my first pc build: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/kkQTCy

I want a cool, silent and comfy system for both working and playing some old fps games (TF2, Chivalry, Fistful of Frags) on my Asus VG248QE. I chose the GTX 960 because it can run my fav games as well as Overwatch, Garden Warfare 2 and other games I'd like to try in the future. I'm not looking for the best performance at max settings, playing those games at med settings would be more than enough to me if this allows me to exploit the potential 144 Hz of my screen.
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>>55969864
>not an argument
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>>55969845

>resellers acting as middlemen between customer and manufacturer is a bad thing

What?
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>>55969858
AMD will honestly go bankrupt before they can ever compete with Nvidia again.
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>>55969881
You don't deserve one because you are either a dumb fuck or just baiting. I prefer to think the latter so this is your final reply.
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>>55968815
I wish some new cases would use the gpu support arm like some older zalman's.
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>>55969896
Samsung or Intel will buy their graphics division.
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>>55969900
>still not an argument
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>>55969882
Indeed. They just send it back to the manufacturer the same as going directly. It's more hassle ofr them obviously. But usually they won't give you a refund after a certain period and tell you they will send it off to be repaired.
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>>55969918
Rumor is it's Intel.

I hope so because Intel could actually compete with Nvidia.
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>>55969908

>older zalman's

The Zalman R1 still does.
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>>55966761
I just did this (granted I was able to sell my 390 for $200 so I wasn't set back too much money) and I'm noticing a pretty damn good performance increase across most games, if not just because of nvidia's drivers and the fact that most games favor nvidia's designs
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Have people forgotten the "Dx9" Gerforce Fx 5000 series where games would automatically set it to Dx 8? Or the 470/480 Fermi?
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>>55969925

>But usually they won't give you a refund after a certain period and tell you they will send it off to be repaired.

That's covered as well, they have 30 days to have it repaired or replaced ready for you to pick up. If they can't, you can demand a new item or a refund.
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>>55969320
The ladies aren't going to be impressed when they see those arms.
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Wanting to get either rx 480 nitro or fury nitro.
Coming from 770.

I can get fury for 300 quid while nitro for 250.
What should I get?
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>>55970073
Fury
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>>55970073
1060
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>>55967220
Source?
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>>55966983

Results of undervolting Nano:
-75mv (lowest Trixx will go)
-10% off fan speed
-6C off load temp
Actually holds core clock within ~30MHz of stock instead of throttling like fuck.

No artifacts, crashes or effect on gaming. Feeling better about my decision. Still dumps a metric fuckton of heat into my case though, wew.
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>>55969263
>look mom i posted it again
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>>55970312

Speaking of undervolt, did you have to configure trixx to modify the voltage? Voltage slider is locked for my 280x, and can't modify it at all.
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I got an r9 nano from reddit for 390$ in trades and still pissed that I can't run oblivion at 60fps with better cities.

stupid one core engine
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>>55970366

No it's manufacturer/card dependant as some choose to lock the voltage in the BIOS, nothing you can do about it aside from flash a modded BIOS which is another world of hassle.
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>>55969908
Just buy a motherboard with a strong pcie slot.
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>>55970495

Shame, being a Sapphire and all
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>>55970485
Nano is a pretty garbage card. I had one for a few days and the coil whine was unbearable.
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How long do you think it will be before we start seeing more 1060's and 480's in stock? I'm getting ready to retire my trusty 6970, but looks like it will be a while still.
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got a 1070 a week ago, even though the only game i play anymore is tf2
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just bought this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125871
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>>55969421
sauce?
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>>55966604
Poor fag here.
Rocking an ASRock 990fx extreme 3
FX-4300
16gb ddr3
GTX550 Ti
Still playing new games.
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>>55966890
Could have gotten a 7950 (far faster card with better DX12/Vulkan support) for that price.
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>>55966866
>Fury
>2016
why? you can get a 980 ti or 1070 for a little more and they're significantly better
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>>55969989
Don't forget 196.75 drivers, complain all you want about AMD support but at least they didn't literally burn your card up
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>>55971021
>2016
>Maxwell
Nope.
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>>55969795
>For example, 1080p at 60 fps.
>This is where Nvidia wins everytime
the 390 was king for that when i got mine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>55971021

because jews
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>>55966604
Rocking a rage 128 ultra 3d card, 120 USD, very worth it. [cough]fuckingbrandnewdesktopbrokedown[/cough]
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>>55966890
>>55967914
You fucked up. I can't wait to get rid of my 770.

>>55969348
>wasted $1000 on Kepler shit
>buying Nvidia again
Cuck
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>>55966604
about to upgrade from a 770 to a 690
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>>55971021
>being a shill for nvidia
>2016
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>>55966604
Should I get a 1080 now or wait for something? I haven't kept up with GPUs recently.

Could I post a build here and people tell me what they'd change? I don't want to clutter /g/ with a thread like that.
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>>55971596
do it
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>>55971613
stop shilling

>>55971596
the 1080 is worthless it doesn't even support proper dx12
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>>55971656
Is there any GPU that does support proper directX 12 right now?
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What important/professional program exists that exclusively uses CUDA? Say if I want to get a AMD card but also render video(autocad, matrix), animate/edit photos (e.g. illustrator, zbrush, etc), would the lack of CUDA cores be an encumbrance relative to having a GPU that only supports opencl?
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>>55971596
Wait for volta next year anon
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ZOTAC GTX960
it's okay i guess
>>
I am extremely happy this thread is now a thing
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>>55966604
2x Nitro+ OC 480's on the way
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>>55971684
literally anything not made by nvidia
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>>55971814
its shit
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I backordered the $250 Gigabyte GTX 1060 from Newegg a couple of weeks ago, now I am torn between waiting until they get more stock or cancelling my backorder and getting the "gaming" edition which is $40 more expensive for the same card with a slightly higher clock.
>>
I want to buy two aftermarket GPU coolers for my reference 980 cards. Does anyone know one they can personally recommend?

Some of the ones by Raijintek look nice, but I'm troubled by how none of these manufacturers offer information on how many slots they occupy.

Why is it so hard to find an aftermarket cooler similar to one found on a EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI card..?
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I'd like to get a Asus VG248QE

what GPU should I get?
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>>55971839
AMDrone sensor is ringing.
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I just got a low profile GTX750ti from MSI to fit into a workstation. The best graphic card I had before was Intel HD4k so the difference was going from barely 20fps on lowest settings to 100+fps on very High while playing Rome 2.
120 bucks well spent, I can say that.
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>>55968798
My nigga, I just did that too.
But that feel when it dipped down to around $300 a week ago for like a day, according to pcpartpicker.
Cucked myself waiting for the nitro 480 baka senpai

>>55968989
my asus mg279q 1440p 144Hz is apparently freesync at 35Hz to 90Hz how fucked am I?

>>55969243
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>>55971044

wut? an OCed 970 is considerably faster than the 390. 390 only beats the locked 970 reference cards.
>>
EVGA Geforce GTX 750 Ti SC. I've had it for over a year and want to kill myself. I got it because the 950 hadn't come out yet, and my friends told me not to get any AMD cards. So I went on Nvidia's website and it was the cheapest they said was "good for gaming" (yea, right). I forked over $142 to amazon and was dissapointed my games wouldn't run at higher than "high" presets if that. As games updated and got fancier and NVIDIA gimped my card, performance got worse and worse to the point of "low" preset csgo 1080p would struggle to remain above 60fps.

If I had heard of used Radeon Cards at the time or waited for the 950 to come out I wouldn't be punching myself rig gt now. I'm saving up for a whole new PC build, these are the specs.

Intel Core i7 6700k
MSI Z170 GAMING M5
G Skill Trident Z 3200 2x8
EVGA Geforce GTX 1060
Samsung 850 EVO 256 GB SSD

I only have the CPU and Motherboard that I got as a special from Microcenter for $420 USD. Thoughts on the parts I havent bought yet? Also, is the 6 GB 1060 worth $60 more USD?
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What's the best bang for the buck workstation card?
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>>55972107
What do you need a workstation card for
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>>55972118
My workstation
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>>55971975
Nice anon,im still rockin my gtx 650.Actually bought it 2 years ago because I didnt know jack shit about gpus for 150€.Not the best purchase I ever made but its still playing games so I guess cant complain.
Planing on upgrading either to a 470 or 480,still not sure but im leaning more to the 470 cause only play at 1080p and here in yuroland you can get the best 8gb 470 for the same price as the reference 4gb currently.
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Zotac 1060 AMP!
I got it because my 560ti died and I wanted a good card for 1920x1080 60hz and the 1060 custom cards were available before the 480 ones were
Planning on getting a 2Fast 2FuryX or whatever they call it when that comes out and getting a 2560x1440 144hz freesync monitor
>>55972007
>mg279q
you can expand the freesync range on that monitor
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>>55971968
Even skylake has better support for dx12 than pascal, nice try nvidiot
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>>55972014
And a overclocked 390 beats a overclocked 970, now stop shilling for nvidia /v/ spillage
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I have a 660 is it worth it to get a 470 or should I just go for the 480?
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>>55972259
>when your favorite company hasn't been relevant for over 10 years but you're still shilling this hard.
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>>55969876
Idk dude I tested out one from bbuy to play DOOM on and it was pretty meh. Probably 30-35 fps on medium and I'm being generous. Stuttered occasionally but not the worst. I'd do more research.

Also, post your partpicker link on a separate line so it's easier to triple-click and open in a new tab please, for future reference.

Ok, you *could* lower the RAM a bit if you wanted to save some. Not gonna need 16GB for older games. You could put that money into the 4GB version of the 960. Yes, that is the exact GPU I tried from bbuy. I would have gone for 4GB, but still taken it back as I was waiting for a new pooinloo card. The rest looks okay, you know you could get a bluray writer off newegg for $40 (after $25 MIR) like I did. Might be cool if you ever wanna watch a movie or back some files up [I don't trust externals or cloud backups]

>>55970073
I just got the Fury Nitro. Looks cool as fuck but won't be here till friday. Grabbed it for $350, only 70 more than the rare Nitro 480.

>>55971021
Made my mind up to be a pooinloo and didn't want to pay a premium for a g-sync monitor anyways. Couldn't find a fucking 480 so I said fuck it.

>>55972202
Nice. I wasn't aware people could 'oc' a monitor till yesterday. Now I've seen everything.
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>>55972316
go which whatever seems a better value for you

the 470 has much better efficiency though
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>>55972340
Back to /v/ nvidia shill, maybe someone will believe you there
>>>/v/
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>>55972346
>My build btw.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/24XXvV
Thoughts?

>>55972316
Like most decisions on here, it all depends on what you want to do with it. If you wanna play games into 2017, 18, or 19 I would suggest going for the 8GB models of course.
From what I'm seeing the 470 isn't far behind the 480 and seem to be easier to find.
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>>55972340
>literally only able to communicate in memes
>>>/9fag/
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>>55971802
>>55971839
I have 2 R9 290s. Crossfire is a pain in the ass so I'm only using 1 at the moment. I'll redo my entire build due to circumstances, but even with just 1 R9 290 I'm having issues (video playback stutters, can't handle 4 monitors without glitching, fps drops when I watch a YouTube video while gaming, etc.). So I kinda want to try Nvidia again.
What I have in mind is an i5 6600k (I linda want a 6-core but I don't think it makes sense) with 8GB of ram and a new GPU, the question is what is a good improvement over an R9 290 right now? 1070 or 1080 I suppose.
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>>55972374
>>55972426
>amd
>technology

Pick one
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>>55972201
that gtx750ti is also the first gpu I ever buy. I was competely clueless at first but I did my homeworks and it appears that this card fits the bill pretty well, being half-height and draw little power so the 250 watt psu in the optiplex sff (said workstation) can carry it.
My backlog consists of 2013,2014 and 2015 titles so I believe this card will serve me well in the next 2 years, at the very least.
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>>55972458
>literally only able to communicate in memes
>>>/9fag/
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Still rocking my old 3-slot Asus 7970.

Bought it right before the 280x price dropped it, so I unfortunately paid around 500 for it.
It's been a good card, the First Display Port never worked, but I only run a single Monitor.
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>>55972516
>When your amd drivers won't display memes properly.
>>
best card for higher rez dota and overwatch right now? I was looking at the 1070
I have a 5800 right now, its showing its years. Performed well for its time though I think.
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>>55972613
>literally only able to communicate in memes
>>>/9fag/
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>>55968642
yes but the gimped l2 cache of the 845 isn't the greatest, 880k has 2x l2 cache and a much better cooler.

I would go 880k a88x board and a RX 470 in your budget.
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>>55968642
get the i3 and a RX 470
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>>55972470
Glad your happy anon,to be honest I can still play most games I want at acceptable frames,but there are a few that I really want to play but cant like Witcher 3,Doom etc,so cant wait to get my hands on a new gpu.
And yea the 750 should have no problem playing the games you want to play,and if my 650 is anything to go by it should last you easily another two years.
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>r9 290 Tri-X
I don't need an upgrade but I'm a good goy, so I'll probably get a new card within a year

hopefully I can grab a 1070 for $400 used by Christmas
>>
I finally have enough money to build my first pc and the fucking 1080 gtx is so expensive and not even in fucking stock.

Why does it have to be like this
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I have an r9 290 on water that never gets over 65c while on 1440p on max settings

oh and I got it and the cooler for 170$
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>>55972689
Paper launches,thats why
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>>55972689
do you plan on getting a 1080?

just get a 1070 or 480, or better yet get an r9 290 used for like 150$ and crossfire them for the same retaliative performance
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>>55972689
Just get 2 480s
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Logical upgrade from a 7870?
Using an 8350, no preference for red or green
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>>55972689
new games aren't even good dude just get a 480/470 or a 1060 and play old shit
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>>55972695
>yfw gigabyte 1080 xtreme on air never breaks 60C 100% load for hours
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>>55967220
Aww no faggot. It doesn't work like that. Try turning off vsync.
Freesync ≠ Vsync
Will this meme ever die?
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OEM 970, works fine, might not upgrade to 480
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>>55972689
>building first pc
Ok, what is your budget and what do you want to do? (1080p, 1440p, 4k)
I didn't really plan mine well and ended up spending $1600 lol

>>55972744
This dude, unless you can get a new game from this year for $30 or something.
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>>55966604
I want to stick with AMD, is there any proper upgrade from an R9 290 for 1440p gaming? No crossfire.
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>>55972749
>tfw you hear the radiator power on and the water move on both your cpu and gpu

>it's quite enough after to hear your hard drive spin
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>>55972734
470/480
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>>55972784
Fury cards. You can find them relatively cheap now.
>>
I got a 6950 and I want 60fps on Doom
What the fuck is the cheapest option for me in canada
Even hawaii cards are still $300+ CAD
Was looking forward to splurging on a nitro rx480 but it doesn't fucking exist at the moment. There's a refurbished gtx 960 4 GB for $219 CAD on newegg, would I be fucking myself if I got it?
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>>55972734
480 or 470, what ever is in stock at something close to msrp
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I'm getting a rx490 or a 1080Ti, whichever comes first.

Any recent release rumors, anyone?
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>>55972797
Is the Fury really a significant improvement over a 290? I don't want a furyx.
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>>55966604
I got a 390 about a year ago now. Should I feel bad about that choice with teh 470 and 480 out now?
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>>55972790
>rad
>power
>on
>?
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>>55972784
Vega should be out this fall, wait for that.
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>>55972812
Its like 20%, aka not worth it, waif for vega
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Just got this yesterday. It's the OC version too, just $10 above the MSRP. Would of got the 1080 instead, but 40% price increase for 25% performance is just not there
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>>55972814
yes, get mad for a new card having practically the same performance
>>
>>55972774
First thing I bought was a 1440p 144hz g sync monitor so that's what I'm going for. I don't need ultra 144hz for every game
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>>55972801
don't be a child and be patient for stocks maybe?
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>>55972900
Good luck man. That's a bretty decent deal.
I got a bit impatient and went for a new 980Ti that ended up costing me $350 in all.
>>
>>55972929
True, thanks anon
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>>55972791
>$350-$420AUD

That's a bit much for the low variety of games and how rarely I play new games
>>
>>55972801
Don't get it, like I said I tried the 2gb from bbuy and was disappointed.

>>55972928
Dunno you could probably do 980ti/fury/1070 like most people here are saying. Fury probably being the lesser of the two but has the edgiest name XD
>>
>>55972914
But it's half the price and power draw.
>>
>>55972928
I have a 780 at the moment, stock clock. Going for a 1070.

Get whatever is most cost-efficient for you budget-wise. For me, the price of the 1080 isnt as good as the 70, plus theres the dx12 troubles looming. Your G-Sync will fix lower framerates, your 144hz will reward you with sex at higher framerates.
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How much VRAM do I need? Is 8GB a meme?
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is pic related a good deal?


[put together a build on PC part picker, same specs except 1070, and it came in $200 less]
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>>55973004
Do you want to keep playing new games with high qualit textures or not?
>>
>>55973016
kek that's not even worth 1,000
>>
>>55973016
The guy must be tripping
>>
>>55973016
fuck no. looks like the prices are high because I'm assuming this faggot is using leafbux
>>
>>55973016
I forgot to include monitor and mouse/kb in price, but even then, it's definitely not worth $1900

>>55973047
>>55973048
there's a difference between being dumb and being an outright liar. you just know some asshole will see 'SERIOUZZ GAMER' and think it's a good deal

>>55973071
like I said, I did a build using canuck monopoly money and even then, it's still barely $1000. a 23" monitor isn't $500
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>>55973016
You should buy it, the guy got in a car accident and he needs help!
>>
>>55972989
you can get a 390 for 260 american cheeseburger currencies. if you already have one then its an absolute sidestep. but yes the 390 is balls deep in power usage
>>
>>55973016
Case - 100
MoBo - 125
CPU - 250
Ram - 100
Vid - 250
PSU - 100
SSD - 50
HDD - Kingstons doesn't make HDDs, they make SSDs. 480 is like 150.
212 - 30

So that's like 1100ish worth of parts I think. Don't have links, I work at a computer store. Canadian prices.


>>55973047
>>55973048
Richmond Hill ON is in Canada. Computer shit is more expensive in Canada.
That said, still not a good deal.
>>
>>55973154
>MoBo - 125
Try $80

>Ram - 100
It's DDR3, not more than $70

>CPU - 250
Are you the guy? Because 8350 is $140 fuckinn everywhere.


The whole build is worth about $900
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>>55973154
>>55973178
>someone actually paid nearly $300 for a FUCKING 4gb 380
it's overpriced but also makes zero sense. who spends $130 on RAM but then gets a shitty GPU, but also an overpriced shitty GPU?
>>
>>55973154
Forgot monitor, that's like 150 too.

>>55973178
I'm telling you the prices at my store. In Canada. Don't know what store your prices are from or what country they are in.
>>
>>55973203
do you work at NCIX or Canada Computers? do you get employee discounts or any other benefits? my friend started working at CC and I wanna know if it's worth asking him to get me shit
>>
>>55972259
What aspect of DX12 does Pascal not support?
>inb4mythrepeated
>>
>>55973228
Memory Express. Discount is Cost +5% iirc.
>>
>>55973282
how does cost normally compare to retail prices? I know best buy/future shop get cost plus 10%, but how much more is retail?

for instance, how much does a 6600k or 1070 go for? or some random 1080p tv?
>>
>>55973332
Avg is like, 30-40% But can be 10-100% depending on what it is.
>>
>>55973385
makes sense. I don't think CC even gets at-cost discounts, so it's a moot point
>>
using a 7950 I've had for 3 years, recently put out a back order for a 1060. hopefully it gets here before I die of old age.
>>
>>55969297
>yeah 1060 uses less power but for fuck sakes 970 - 980 level of power efficiency is fantastic considering amd went from keplar level to maxwell. thats a huge drop.

it's not a huge drop, nvidia managed it with maxwell despite maxwell still being 28nm. it took AMD a node shrink and they still ended up 70% behind pascal's perf/watt.
>>
>>55973268
Async and somehow when using DX12 pascal sees a regression in performance.
>>
>>55973982
>Async
In after the myth is repeated.

>when using DX12 pascal sees a regression in performance
Are you confusing Pascal with Maxwell?
>>
>>55974066
It doesn't have async and it shows stop being a shill and fuck off you have autism
>>>/v/
>>
>>55974124
>It doesn't have async
[citation needed]
Anandtech's articles reviewing Pascal states to the otherwise. Thus why it is a myth only AMDrones repeat.
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>>55974138
>Anandtech
>>
>>55974173
What's your issue with Anandtech? Simply because their in-depth reviews don't match up with your preconceived notions?
>>
>>55966604
Using an evga 960 short 4gb. Will keep using until I either get a monitor with a resolution above 1080p or can verify that my SFM render times are actually any better on a heavier card.

Any thoughts or input? Particularly wondering if upgrading the card will do me any good in SFM or if I'm fucked by valves inability to update this monstrosity
>>
>>55969263
saved, thanks my man
>>
>>55974276
Anandtech shills applel shit and nvidia, whatever they do is disregarded.
>>
wasn't the fury x supposed to be a 980 ti competitor?

how come maxwell titan x struggles to keep up with it now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwV91khyoO0
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>>55974477
>Anandtech shills applel shit and nvidia
I'd ask for a citation but I'm sure it would be a waste of time. Anandtech is one of the most cited source (if not the most) for tech.
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>All of this talk about 470s
>tfw bringing nightmares of fermi back
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>>55974501
Everyone knows anandtech shills for apple and nvidia, their founder literally left anandtech to work at fucking apple. You are just a retarded nvidia shill that cant see a bigger picture.
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>paxwell
>async
pick one
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>>55974523
>Everyone knows anandtech shills for apple and nvidia
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>>55974552
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/31/6091393/anandtech-founder-anand-shimpi-retires-from-journalism-to-join-apple
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>>55974562
Did I ask or refute that Anand went to work for Apple after he RETIRED from Anandtech?
>>
>>55974552
>>55974562
>anandtech
Yea that's the site literally started by a panjeet for the sole purpose of shilling nvidia and apple
>>
>>55974580
>retired
He shilled for apple and nvidia HARD on anandtech it only makes sense that he went to work for one of those companies
>>
>>55974593
>He shilled for apple and nvidia HARD on anandtech

Explain this to me. How is it a site is as biased as you claim is one of the most cited tech sites on the internet for almost twenty years?
>>
>>55974608
It happens all the time it just seems like you arent "red pilled" on the amount of shills in tech journalism
>>
1070 or 1080 for 1440p dual monitors? Probably games on one with Internet on the other
>>
>>55974622
>It happens all the time
Bullshit. If someone is determined to be biased his reliability and credibility, especially as a journalist, goes out the window.

How about a plausible explanation?
>>
>>55974634
You are incredible autistic and retarded and cant see it
>>
>>55974712
We've all seen what happens to tech journalists who do what you claim Anandtech has done. Remember what happened to HardOCP not too long ago? No? I'm not surprised.
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>>55972083


>falling for the extra vram meme

Fuck no. I have the 2 GB GTX 770 and it gets exactly the same performance as the 4 GB. I know because my idiot friend bought a prebuilt with the 4 GB, same fps in TW: Atilla / Division / etc. If you are set on getting the 1060, a 1080p monitor is alright. Anything more powerful than that and you need to go 1440 / 144hz. Can't believe how many fucking retards have

>GTX 1080
>1920x1080
>60 hz

If you do this, please kill yourself.
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