After being a burnout NEET where i haven't played a video

>>>/v/

>>55964937
/v/ doesn't know shit about technology

Any i5 quad core pretty much.
Now go do research.

>>55964903
If you're somewhere where electricity is cheap, get a used build. Better bang for the buck.

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>AMD
>Budget
there's no budget when your gpu fries your motherboard and psu

get a 1060

Get an fx 8350...for the price it is the superior option

i5 6500 or any haswell i5.

if super budget any ivy i7. i5 ivy can do but i7 is better for future multi-threaded games.

>>55965022
>>55965022
This. If you're on super budget mode consider an fx-6300 instead. I'm still rubbing one on my guest pc and it handles many 1080p60 games VERY well with an old HD 6870.

>>55965007
>spouting this bullshit still

>>55965007
dumb indian drawing poster

>>55964903
Right now I would go with an i5 6400 and a z170 motherboard capable of overclocking, 3200mhz ddr4 8gb(2x4gb sticks) since theyre only like $45, a ~$45 240gb ssd, RX 470 since you can actually get one at $200, and case/psu are up to you.

Alternatively to save money you can go i3 6100 and the z170, it won't bottleneck a rx 470.

To go even lower you can go i3 6100, cheap non-z170 motherboard, cheapest ddr4 sticks you can find, same ssd/gpu.

I'm about to build the first option in a few weeks.

>>55965007
ur waifu a shit

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>>55965072
>le "everyone who disagrees with me is a shill, AMD a good boy he dindu nuffin" meme
For its "budget" performance AMD has a shit ton of inefficiences with power usage. This means if you use their shit with a budget PSU/Mobo you're in for a fried computer.

Even then, Intel and Nvidia have much better offerings even on the low end. I dont see OP doing hardcore amounts video encoding all day or playing Ashes of Singularity 24/7

>>55965007
>1060 10% faster than 470
>but costs 40% more

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>>55965302
More like 1060 is 39% faster while costing 10% more.

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>>55965007

>>55965373
>GTA
enjoy your shitty console port with gaymeworks

>>55965544
>Yeah but thats a Gameworks game!
>Yeah but that benchmarks by a paid shill!
>Yeah but that game just isnt optimized for muh Async and DX12!

The AMD victim complex knows no bounds

>>55965579
>Yeah but thats a DX12 game!
>Yeah but that benchmarks by a paid shill!
>Yeah but that game just isnt optimized for muh Pascal and DX11!

The Nvidia victim complex knows no bounds

If you can find a 470 in your budget, you should get it! It has no competitor on the Nvidia side just yet, If you want to wait, there will probably be a 1050 some day.

But the performance difference between the 1060/480 when looking at games people actually play (no project cars, no ashes) are quite similiar with both cards trading blows depending on the game engine and API. I expect this will be the same with the eventual 1050

>>55964903
How about you get a job and stop being a poorfag NEET. Also kill yourself while you are at it

I need a CPU and GPU and storage for $300. I was going to go rx 470 and 2500k for $300 but the 380x is $150 right now. I suppose I can use the HDD in this laptop for 2 weeks until I get another $80.

Should I go 380x over 470, saving $50, if I'm going to be playing:
Overwatch, Doom, WoW, ark, and rust?

The RX 470 is a joke, a bunch of AIB 470s prices overlap with the RX 480.

If you can find a RX 470 for under $180 then maybe it might be worth your while, but you should always choose the RX 480 when it costs $180 or above

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>>55965685
How about i give you the finger and you give me my freedom.
I know my rights, you can't scare me with this social brainwashing crap.

>>55965740
Dont go for that ancient rebrand 380x. Cmon anon have some dignity.

>>55964903
Intel core igetajobk

>>55965007
you cant mine crypto on a 1060.

>>55965767
Its not a rebrand you fucking mongoloid
>>>/v/

>>55965645
Only Nvidiots dont need to do that because Nvidia is already the best.
The 1060 even wipes out the 480 in DX12 performance.

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>>55965920
ok kid

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>>55965065
Sure, at absolute minimum settings

Its 7 years old and out classed by a 750ti

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>>55965920

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>>55965920
mmmmm

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>>55965920
lol

>>55965740

your in the used domain now. Watch your power supply, friend.

Let OP buy rx480. Hopefully he'd die for good in the future fire and stop leeching money.

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>>55966107

>>55965910
it is rebrand though.

>>55966169
no its not now go back to /v/
>>>/v/

>>55966205
eh okay 7970=280x=380x

Is OP even still in this thread? Seems to me like he long fled

>>55966252
the 380x was a new gpu you fucking retard

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>>55966139

>>55966270
okay pajeet whatever you say

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>>55966303

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>>55966303
retard

>>55966253
i'm still here, but i'm still unsure if i should get the rx480 or the 1060 as some try to persuade me...freaking shills trying to confuse me

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>>55964903
Don't play yourself. Get nvidia card.

>>55965007
>using my waifu to shitpost
>is an nvidiashill

im going to find u and kill u mofo

>>55966402
see >>55965991
>>55966020
>>55966047
>>55966084

>>55965742
Got a MSI 470 for $168 yesterday. I'd say it might be worth it even at $190, especially since the $200 will only get you a reference 4gb 480, which are pretty much unicorns. The 470 is a better over clocker than the 480, so they are pretty damn close when both are OCed.

>>55966402
If you're on a tight budget you probably should get a used 980ti/390. Afaik you can get them for ~250€ and they rape the 1060 and the 480, but they also draw more power, so you should take that into account, if electricity is expensive in your country.

>>55965991
>hitman
>warhammer
Literally amd games
>>55965991
>medium settings
LMAO

>>55965406
saved.

Also, I just picked up a Nitro Fury for $350. Because fuck waiting for muh nitro 480, right?

>>55964903
What's your exact budget? I'll try to throw something together within that range.

>After being a burnout NEET where i haven't played a video game properly in 3 years, i decided to give it another try to resurrect the passion.
This is extremely sad.

>>55967113
(guy you'rer replying to)
Yep, I was looking at that as well, specifically because of the great idle powerdraw, no matter how many monitors.
Went with a 1070 because I don't have 2x8 power connectors on my 400W PSU and probably won't have enough dosh for a third monitor anyway (this time some 144HZ, 1440p bullshit with Free/G-Sync).

>>55966377
>>55966354

per-core throughput hasn't changed since GCN 1.0, tonga's only difference is that it can perform equally with less memory bandwidth thanks to DCC. it's still basically a rehash of gcn 1.0 (just as hawaii, fiji, and poolaris are)

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>>55964903
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/xfx-radeon-rx-480-gtr-black-edition-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-with-backplate-gx-23a-xf.html

I know sweet FA about xfx what are they like?

>>55967353
Yeah I went overboard on that and grabbed an Asus mx25aq for $490. Not sure what I was thinking but it'll last me till I replace my next card at least.
I went crazy on my PSU too, Thermaltake 850W Gold+ for $70 after MIR. But it ended up DOA. Should be getting the replacement on friday along with the gpu and screen.

I didn't mean to blow so much but I didn't have a plan going into this, plus after seeing my cousin's 1440p one too many times I had to have one.

>>55967113

>buying a fury non-x for $350 when a used 980ti is cheaper and 30-40% faster

>>55964903
Games and gaming industry is dead and has never been this bad. Only nu male shit and some gay press 1 button to win games. Soon they are going to pay for alpha test of games where the game plays itself so you don't have to even interract with it at all.

>>55967435
DOOM is pretty fun
Dark Souls 3 is worth a try too

or OP can just emulate ps2 games, but cant use a AMD card for that

>>55967416
I honestly think that a 1440p monitor is a way better investment than a 500€/$ gpu.
The monitor will be good until it dies, even if you just use it as a second monitor by then, but the GPU will go to shit with time.

Never understood why people are buying the most expensive hardware and skimp on the peripherals. They last MUCH longer and are usefull even in idle.

>>55967487
Is that because of Open GL? If so then fuck it I will get a 1060 because I got my worth out of a 750ti on emulation alone.

I know the Dolphin team are giving DX 12 a whack.

So I've had a 380 for a while now, but it chugs a bit on newer games. Looking to upgrade to something that can handle modern games at 1080, I was thinking about just getting a 1070 but I'm not sure if that's the best performance/$ wise

>>55967417
Fug. I don't have the smarts or balls to play the used market. Don't want to get shafted as life loves to do.

>>55967524
Thank you, I feel like I made a better choice then. I've been on a hpG62 laptop for close to 4 years and need something good. My old Acer AL2016W was bought secondhand in 2010 and was last used in 2011, going through several northern winters in a storage unit and garage. Still works pretty well to this day!

I was thinking about the people that buy the newest Titan card every year. It's not exactly dumb if they sell it to trade up for another one and take a loss, so instead of throwing away $1000 a year it's more like $400-$500; which is a much better deal than simply buying a new $500 GPU year after year. Honestly if I had a career and was established then I'd do the same exact thing because I wouldn't have the time to OC and screw around like I do now.

>>55967601
Or you'd realise that most current gen games aren't to your liking anymore and just play some stardew valley. At least that's what I do with my 1070...
Well I'm looking forward to Dishonored 2 I guess and play some UT (the new one). But other than that I couldn't care less. Been looking for a fast singleplayer shooter some time now, had high hopes for that borderland reskin, but it's just as slow as the original so fuck that.

>>55966481
>amdrone
>shit waifu
sums up

>>55967718
Yeah probably something like that. I'd probably go casual and get back into nintendo because I loved them when I was younger.
I skipped the 360/One though so I'm completely spellbound by the new Farcry and DOOM. Battlefield 1 looks alright and has me kinda excited but I'll be damned if I pay full retail for it.
Not to mention the season pass meme that every fucking game is shilling too.

>>55967584
They also plan on trying Vulkan, so don't kill your hopes yet.

>>55967718
>>55967802

You two have summed up my fear that I'd spend all this time agonising and then go back to emulating F Zero but in higher resolution.

>>55964903
are you still a NEET? Maybe you should look for another hobby than video games, try going outside more, try getting a job, try getting a life. Playing video games all day and not doing anything productive comes with a huge opportunity cost. Playing video games now and then for pleasure and fun, sure, but it shouldn't be your main focus of life or your main activity, especially when you're older.

>>55964903
You should get i5 6600K with an aftermarket cooler so that you can overclock it.

>>55967802
>>55967840
Emulating stuff in higher resolution is really one of THE advantages of a faster GPU. Funny thing is, FF12 actually looks better than 13 that way.
That model of Ashe in high resolution could easyly be from a PS4 launchtitle (of which there were none).
I guess I'll buy Dragons Dogma soon, but even my dead 7870 could've played that one... Also I think I'll mod Skyrim once more, since my 7870 wasn't powerfull enough for a decent ENB at 1440p and the horrible lightning @stock always bothered me a lot.

The way I see it is as follows:
If I want to I can. And I'm ok with paying for that.

>>55967985
True true. Which is why I usually for makes with a good warranty as I do intend keeping them for 4 years.

How are XFX in the UK?

>>55968008
I have no fucking idea. I just know, that their cooling solutions were god awful the past few years. I'd probably go with MSI/Asus, as they offer 3 years of warranty, while I'd go with Zotac (5years) or EVGA (upgradeable to 5/10 years) if you want nVidia.

>>55967407
Only problems with an XFX 380x i've had are the fan noise at idle. Looking forward to this one.

>>55968040
Yeah, I had my eye on EVGA if I imported one as I could pay for an international warranty.

I'll wait for reviews anyway, it'll be bloody September before I get one of these, 1060 Zotac Amps are ready to buy but I don't want impatience to cut my options.

Oh also, one of you ever played Dear Esther?
It pretty much runs on every potato and looks absolutely gorgeos. It's a pretty good example of how wasteful programers are these days with the ressources of modern systems. Good lighting, even static, a nice Skybox and good atmosphere can make the most awefull textures look great (and they are pretty bad in this case).

Of course it's a walking simulator, but still. If I have a look at a new AC for example, which has all those highly consuming features, I still think it looks -way- worse than Dear Esther.
I highly recommend playing it once (it's pretty short, an hour or something of "play" time), it's quite baffling to see how much money you have to burn, so some developers can hide their inability.
>>55968117
I have no idea whether their warranty works if you have to import it. Whether to get a 1060/480 really depends on your estimates. Do you think you'll be playing a lot of DX 12/Vulcan games? Get the 480. In my case, I'm rather set with DX 11 and lower, so I went nVidia this time.

>>55968192
Yeah it does, I checked when I was bugging my friend to help me.

>>55964903
Get a 1060. It will last much longer and perform much better.

>>55968671
Alright, then I think it's a great investment

>>55968694
>It will last much longer
Tell that to Kepler owners. (and soon Maxwell owners too)

>>55968959
Genuine question? How come people attest to the longevity of the 560 and 660?

>NEET
>"I need a gaming PC."

Pottery.

>>55966084
>1060
>400Mhz, 25% overclock
>not even 5 more FPS

>>55966970
see >>55965645

>>55969047
Pascal cant overclock worth shit and gets terrible gains, its well documented.

Get an rx480 and let the AMD magic fry your motherboard
then youll have 2 choices since no computer or money to get one
>Stop being a leech on society
>Off yourself

either way itll be better than where you are now

>>55969180
"Thank you Captain Obvious", I'd say that, but you're far too stupid for me to feel good about myself if I did.

>>55969014
Nvidia cards always last longer because they have better support and the hardware is much higher quality.

>>55969189
>still repeating this meme
It was fixed long time ago, and you can just get a non-reference card if you want to be safe.

>>55969211
2 cents have been deposited to you account

>>55969239
Buying AMD is on the same level as buying Chink shit, there's bound to be a problem.

But even if it does ruin his computer, OP can work his way up to a proper Intel/Nvidia system

>>55969189
He asked for advice not social commentary.

>>55969211
I was thinking more was it bus width or what not had changed.

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>>55969189
nice meme

>>55969211
look at pic related, no they dont

>>55969268
95% of everything (eletronics) we buy is made in China or Taiwan, do yo have a point or are you just practicing your terrible scripts?

>>55969268
1 shekels have been deposited to you geforce account

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>>55969268
>>55969193
>>55969211

>>55969290
95% but certain companies have quality control and dont ship out bad units. AMD is not one of them.

>>55969363
[citation needed]

>>55969363
source

>>55969451
Nice micropenis nvidiot

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>>55964903
One thing to make all AMD fags shut up, i present you:
>"DRIVER OVERHEAD"

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>>55969552
nice meme, time to go back now
>>>/v/

>>55969451
>sfw

>>55969552
What you see here is that the RX 480 beats the GTX 1060 in "muh Dooom with Vulcun" , but only if you have the best processor for gaming, if you are on a budget, which most 200$ card buyers are, then you will most likely have a older CPU, and with that you are wasting money if you buy a 480. -Sad!

>>55969571
With that sorted it's back to whether you want a card to perform pretty swick on DX 11 or DX 12.

If Dolphin or PCXS2 came out with DX 12 I'd go AMD.

>>55969571
Literally skylake at 4ghz, and what games are those I cant into Ruski.

>>55969616
see >>55969571
now get a trip so i can filter you

>>55969640
cpus shit hasn't moved in years and its a dual core

>>55969451
You're a small guy

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>>55967487
>can't use an amd card with ps2 emulation
uhh... yes you can? I play GT4 at full speed which is probably one of the most demanding games to emulate, running on a r9 270x and an i5 4690k.

>>55965007
No AIB cards do that for neither the 470 nor 480. Only the reference 480 does it, and if you buy a reference card you are an idiot.

>>55969284
>posting graph from random faggot on neofag forums
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AMDrones everyone

>>55969552
>shoop.jpg

>>55970174
>source on pic
meanwhile amdrones post shit like >>55969284

>>55969552
>DX12
>drivers

wat

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>>55969349 (You)

>>55964903
OP you've come to the wrong place to ask for advice about GPU's. I recommend you ask on Guru3D's forums if you want a sensible reply.

>>55967867
How about a NO, and a middle finger to you, my friend.

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>>55970273

>>55970299
WOW a 950!

>>55965120
Nvidia cards have the same issues with overdraw bit somehow no one talks about it. AMD solved this with a patch, which is why there are not endless stories of pc's being fried, not that there were before that.

>>55970345
>Nvidia cards have the same issues with overdraw
[citation needed]
>AMD solved this with a patch
>fixing hardware problem with driver patch
lmao

>>55969552
damn I didn't save the pasta that btfo this pic

>>55970174
>Denial
fucking kek

>>55964903

I highly suggest you buy used,if you can't wait for AMD Zen. On a budget you could pick up the quality i5 and i7 "K" models; it will be worth it in the long run. Haswell/Devil's Canyon 4xxxK are pretty cheap, and used Skylake 5xxxK are a little more expensive but both work well. I's suggest Skylake because of the Z170 chipset and DDR4 RAM, but you can probably get a good cheap Devil's Canyon / Z97 / DDR3 barebones from another enthusiast. Save up if need be.

That said, I suggest you should try for the RX 480 instead of the 470. It is significantly more powerful for little expenditure right now. Hell, get a used 4gb version IF YOU CAN CONFIRM it is unlockable to 8gb.

Even at 1080P, don't waste your money. Buy used and do well.

>>55970446
just checked ebay and craiglist for used parts and the faggots there act like their old crap is da bomb with their shitty overpriced crap and if you ask to lower the price they call you dirty names.
Any good places to buy used?

i3-6100 $125 for most games that arent cpu intensive it wont bottleneck dramaticaply for games like gta V it will bottleneck but still get 60fps with a decent gpu i maxed gta v eih my 480 and i3 i get 60+ fps.

>>55970523

Generally, you need to go to enthusiast hardware forums. Most of them have Trade / For Sale / Want to Buy subforums These are the elder-statesmen of the PC enthusiast community like Overclock.net , HardOCP's HardForum, and others (I hear LinusTechTips does too, even though they're a younger site). If you're into Linux, there are also sometimes hardware swap/sale forums on Linux focused sites/forums too. Of course, there is also /r/hardwareswap and similar on le reddit. Hell, you can even buy pretty good hardware on the darkweb, but I wouldn't advise that for a newbie.

On all these sites, you will NOT be able to post immediately and you may not be trusted as a buyer, but the best thing you can do is be a part of the forum and get a www.heatware.com account. Heatware is the hardware trader's best friend and they recently brought on their own marketplace too. Its basically a decade+ old site that does nothing but create ebay-like feedback. With every successful buy/sell transaction you can exchange heatware ratings and built up reliability. That will help people be comfortable with your trading, but even if you have low heat, you can still buy or sell, but the other party may ask you to say... ship first, pay in advance or via a method that doesn't chargeback etc.....to protect themselves.

On these places you can usually get high quality hardware at reasonable prices and no cuts to the middlemen or shitty fees for ebay and the like. Oh, do NOT fuck around or try to scam people, be sure to read the rules on each forum and generally become a good member of the community and a whole new world of hardware is available to you!

>>55970299
kik

>>55970294

Your loss, pal.

>Buying B-tier Korean monitors off of Alibaba
>Buying no name PSUs with "800w ratings" that explode after 500w
>Buying $50 motherboards which fry themselves after a month
>Buying no name SSDs which claim to be 240gb but overwrite themselves after 100gb
>Buying AMD

Jesus Christ OP, just spend a little more and get something trustworthy. PC parts will fuck you up if you cheap out.

>>55973010
>being a nvidia shill
>>>/v/

>>55973962
>defending poor quality chinkshit
>>>/csg/

>>55973989
AMD is fabbed in america and gremany
Nvidia is fabbed in taiwan
Nvidia is the chink shit dumbass

>>55965753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKyglWb6Rc

>>55969552

>tldr
all you need is a 2500k or higher. technically a 3ghz nehalem. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.
>tldr #2
all pic shows is the processor bottlenecking the 480. this is NOT a driver overhead issue as explained above. with async enabled, the 480 processes a lot of data and the potato processor x4 955 from 2009 with core 2 quad level of performance cannot keep up with the 480's async.
>tldr #3
nvidia does not have async enabled in doom - vulkan. all it benefits from is less driver overhead compared to opengl. this is why the increase from opengl to vulkan with both the 955 and 750 is the same 12fps. if you looked, with the 955 the increase on the 480 too is 10fps. similar to the 1060. with the 750 the 480 jumps to a 18fps increase, higher than the 1060's, because it enters a level of cpu performance that's able to start keeping up with the 480's async performance.
>tldr #4
i don't understand why they went from a 09/10 processor all the way up to essentially 2015/16 processor. little more than half a decade of improvements. but honestly, by seeing the leap from the awful 955 (core 2 quad level) to 750 (2.6ghz first gen nehalem), a 2500k should be more than enough. and if its the k, there is zero reason why it should not be overclocked to a minimum of 4.2ghz with a 212 evo slapped to it.
>tldr #5
all you need is a 2500k or higher. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.
>tldr #7
you don't need the latest and greatest i7 even in dx11.