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100 000 RX480's shipping to vendors in the next two wee

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100 000 RX480's shipping to vendors in the next two weeks. Are the supply problems finally solved?

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29840469&postcount=1436
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>>55931952
>Are the supply problems finally solved?

too late, bought a 1060 instead
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Couldn't care less. Where the fuck are the 470s?
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>>55931952
And they're shipping to the manufactures in the next 2 weeks, wich means we won't see stocks full of customs until september.
God, I only ask for AMD to do things right for a change...
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>>55931952
that will please crypto miners.

although overclockers was one of the few retailers that blocked bulk orders, putting regular customers first.
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>>55931966
good goyim

>captcha: 1060
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>>55932068
>muh manufacturer is better than your manufacturer
>muh brand loyalty

heh
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Wow who cares
These should be been there 2 months ago
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This was a true paperlauch. I'm so fucking disapponted.
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>>55932169
No, that's Nvidia
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>>55931952
If that's 100,000 reference 480s then they can just suck a dick.
No one wants the reference ones.
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Everyone knows the 1060 is the better option in that price range
>300 watts

Where the fuck are those cute little 460's? I want to 4 way crossfire some of those for the lols
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>>55932068

>one item occupies the current plane of reality
>obtainable by shared delusion of currency
>another item does not occupy current plane of reality
>disregard cognitive dissonance
>acquire available item
>"goyim"
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>>55931952
Who would buy such a chit ?
You're not contrarian you are just retards !!!
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>>55932941
shit*
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ugh. hope i get my strix 480s shipped before legion launches.

stuck using my mac for the time being and its awful for gaming.
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Just bought picture related on a sale because my 2 rx480s were just basically sitting idle at 1920x1200.
How hard did I fuck up /g/?
I suspect my cards are just gonna spit their lungs out for sub 60fps gaming.
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>>55933006
better with actual picture, I suspect.
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>>55932566
Speak for yourself anon,paying €50 for 3-4 fps is bullshit especialy in the case of the nitro.Im hoping that this will bring 480 prives down to normal,or atleast normal as posible here in yuroland.
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>>55931952
Forget all that, what you need to see is AMD needs to sell 2-3 million 460, 470 and 480 units at a minimum within 12 months to make a roaring comeback

With any luck by the holiday season they can ship out enough units to overstock suppliers and force them to keep sale price as close to MSRP as possible (more so globally where retail price is almost never anywhere close EXCLUDING vat and pre-calculated tax)

I just wish some of the real shitty places that price GPUs terribly wacky stop that bullshit. Radeon cards 20% or more higher than their Nvid counterpart when the AMD msrp is lower is a real shitty move.
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>>55932566
Reference is OK if your whole case is quiet and cool otherwise and you wear headphones most of the time.
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Too late, I bought a decently discounted Fury X.

Canadaland retailers have the 480 in stock for whole minutes and AIB don't exist. And yet the DAY the 470 is released AIB are listed and in stock.

Screw that I actually want to get some use out of this VR headset.
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>>55932914
nice try Isaac
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>bought a 1070 a month ago

feels good man
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I keep thinking I should get a new card to replace my janky 660ti sli setup, but it plays warcraft, overmeme, and the handful of other games I play at max setting on the monitor I have. All I would be doing is saving power, which I get for free with my university acom. and quietening my pc.
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>>55933328
>buying retard-tier x70, with impossible resell value
>fells good man

do you live with your parents?
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>>55933368
not even AMD can sell AMD cards so I don't know what point it is you're making here
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>>55931952
>implying I want a reference 480

$200 for a 480 does sound really good but I just don't know about this blower fan.
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>>55933328

If you dont have a 1440p monitor and aren't going to use VR you wasted your money
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>>55933447
I do have a 1440p monitor
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>>55933368

couldn't be more retarded than spending $400 on a 4GB fury in 2016.
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>>55931952
why the fuck couldn't have AMD shipped the chips to the AIBs months before the launch so they were ready to go at day one as at least then they would have had a buffer if production had to stop for some reason.
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>>55933006
In direct x 12 games and games with good crossfire scaling you will be able to run at 60 fps

You will get fucked by microstutter on poorly optimized for xfire games

You will get 30 fps on games that don't support xfire and might as well lower res on those

Tbh xfire 480 for 4k gaming rn is silly and you should have gotten a fury X and not had to deal with all the drawbacks of multigpu
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>>55933574
My guess they wanted to beat nvidia to the punch.This way they had the best card avalible at the time and they were selling out everywhere,versus having to compete with the 1060.
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>>55933225
It would be Itzakh dumb goy
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>>55933633
Well I was gonna go for a 2560x1440 freesync display, but saw that shit on flash sale and pulled the trigger.
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>>55933700
You will be fine just dropping resolution when necessary desu, and anyways for future direct x 12 games xfire 480s will be fine to do 60fps high/ultra
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>>55933447
lol ok stay poor pleb
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How long before prices "stabilize?" Or are they already?
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>>55931952
Who gives a shit. The 1060 is better in every way, pic related. If you even think about buying a 480 you're a complete moron.
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>>55933735
It's the Hawaii/Bitcoin situation all over again.
Ethereum miners are buying the whole stock.
Luckily, it looks like the 470 are even more of a watts/ethereum performer.
So maybe we'll see some stock of 480s soon.
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>>55931952
Should I get a 750Ti of wait for the rx460-470?
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>>55933910
meant for >>55933804
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>>55931952
Yes and not only that they increased price with 5-10% globally, smart move by AMD and easy to do with so many drones!
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>>55933910
The 470 at the 180 price point makes pretty much no sense for anyone other than etherium miners compared to the 200$ 480. Hopefully the eth-difficultu bomb will destroy these miners and there will be a huge used 480 470 market
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>>55933890
except in two years when that chart is flipped when they're tested on new games with new drivers
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>>55933890
Or you know,you could just buy the 4gb 480 for $200 and have the best price/perf ratio around...
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>>55933890
> including lower perf engines version for AotS, Doom, Hitman, etc.

for what purpose?
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>>55934109
They should just compare best result for each card, whatever API it's using to get there.
Image quality is the same anyway.
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>>55933976
I'd get a $180 custom 470 over a $200 reference 480 but maybe that's just me being silly.
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>>55932085
long term support against planned obsolescence
aka
AMD vs nvidia
hard choice
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>>55934144
$20 wouldn't even be enough for a night out. Stay a night in and spend the $20 for something you'd be using for the next 8 months at least.
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>>55931966
this

was about to buy a poolaris, but fuck waiting months

fucking amd
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>>55931952
Was literally going to buy a Fury today, because 480s just seem nonexistent. I guess I can wait another week or so.
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>>55931952
I don't think it was a supply problem, just a demand problem. Some shops had reps on various forums bragging about having 2k, 5k, even as much as 10k cards in stock. Within a week some place in the UK was back ordered 10k reference RX 480s.
Thats pretty ridiculous demand for a mid range GPU.
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>>55932566
$200 for 970 performance, count me in
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When is the RX 490 getting released and at what price?
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>>55934840
>give me information no one has
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>>55934483
>I don't think it was a supply problem, just a demand problem

^This

AMD had FAR more cards than Nvidia did on launch. They just sold out faster because they where bought up for compute task.
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>>55934057

>you could buy a unicorn while you're at it
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Will this tank mining?
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>>55934870
well now I know no one has it
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>>55934840
Take the release date and remember to add 1 more month to it, maybe then you are lucky to get one before they are out of stock again.
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>>55934324
I was thinking a custom 470 runs cooler and uses less electricity than a reference 480 so it feels like you'd be saving in the long run.
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>>55931952
Wasn't the rubberized plastic on the face of the card supposed to be removable so you can 3D print your own? How come no manufacturer is taking advantage of that fact and making their own faceplates?
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>massive stock increase
>retailer jews will still keep the same inflated prices

Calling it
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Even leddit is more red pilled than this shill forum
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>>55934888
I would if I could,faggot
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Why would anyone ever buy this piece of shit

>constantly sold out everywhere
>worse than the 1060
>runs hot as fuck
>looks like shit
>blower fans
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>>55935201

Not seeing any lies there, what are you talking about?
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>>55935320
470 is the real redpill
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>flood the market with complete shit and make it cheap so maybe people will buy it

If anything it makes me feel even better for being Intel/Nvidia masterrace
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>>55935320
It's more "future proof" I guess.
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>>55935372
>>55935360
No you fucking deluded poo in the loo amd shills
Buy fucking nvidia and be done with it
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>>55935402
In europe the 470 4GB version is the only decently priced card available at the moment.

The 480s and 1060s are massively overpriced. No justification to pay that much for them.
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>>55935402
>2017
>10xx in legacy support due to software async compute
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>>55935320
Cheaper
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>>55935334
>reading comprehension
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>>55935418
Someone on one of those tech youtube weekly shows actually made a good comment when he said that the 1060 is kind of "stillborn" as a graphics card. Yeah it's pretty powerful now but you're paying a good chunk of money for it, you can't SLI in another year or two when you want more power, and it has already been proven that it doesn't have the hardware on board to always beat cheaper AMD cards when low level APIs are involved. Basically, the 1060 is a brand new graphics card whose best days are already behind it and it just launched literally a month ago.

People that buy in this segment want value AND longevity out of their cards. The 1060 is a tough sell to anyone that does a little research.
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>>55934143

For Nvidia cards the performance is usually the same, while AMD cards have a lot to gain. There is no reason to show the DX11 versions as both Nvidia and AMD users will want to run the game in DX12.
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>>55935092
what is ethereum?
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>>55935201
Am I the only one who's starting to think that these manufacturers are being paid off to deliberately sink AMD? It seems like nobody is doing anything right.
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>>55931952
>100 000 RX480's shipping to vendors in the next two weeks. Are the supply problems finally solved?
still not enough. we need more Mr. Chang.
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>>55931966
>bought 1060
lel its not like the 10XX supply problems are much much worse ahahahahha
bad nvidia shill nobody wants your dx11 trash
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>>55933890
nvidia shill shitposting the same 2 benchmark in every thread because they are the only ones showing the 1060 ahead.
Top kek shilling
10shekel got deposed into your account mr.shill
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>>55935648

Once again, what are you talking about?
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>>55935702
Sounds a bit like the 960 when it launched, a nice card for all intents and purposes, but just a bit too expensive and the only thing it's beating soundly is it's predecessor. The 1060 is better in the performance regard, but there's too much shit being flung around at these days, I was hoping the lithography shrink for high performance computer would be one bit gay party for everyone.
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I think I'm gonna cancel my Nitro+ RX 480 order and go with the MSI instead since it seems to be better overall.
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>>55937322
The MSI 470 or MSI 480, because that's a bit of a jump in price for the 480.

I'm thinking of getting the 470 and boosting it. That way it'd still be cooler and quieter.
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>>55937416
I'm probably not gonna buy a new gpu for a while so I'm gonna go with the MSI 480. The 470 is super attractive too otherwise, Sapphire kind of dropped the ball on this one though. The Nitro+ isn't bad it's a really good card but the MSI is more quiet and cooler. Shame that it looks like shit but I can look past that.
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>>55931952
The problems were solved with a driver update.
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Is GTX 1060 good for playing fps games like Team Fortress 2 and CS:GO at high framerates on a 144 Hz screen on 1920x1080 resolution?
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>>55938426
>be me
>have 280x
>upgraded to 4k monitor
>was thinking id need to upgrade g card to play starcraft 2 at 4k 60fps
>didn't need to
feels good
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>>55938449
I don't mind bad graphics, I just want good performance.
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>>55936744
Except the 1060 is widely available just about everywhere and there isn't a single custom cooled 480 available, of which Powercolor and MSI are the only ones worth even considering.
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>>55935320

Fuck off nigger. The 480 will be close to 1070 performance In a six months.
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>>55933328
Enjoy legacy drivers in a year, nvidiot
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>>55938553
this will probably not actually happen until DX12/Vulkan games are the norm and not the exception.
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Is it worth getting a reference 480 if I'm going to put an AIO cooler on it anyway?
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>>55938656

too bad volta is out next year and nvidia will dump their dx11 pascal like the hot shit it is
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>>55938553
>>55938611

>Trying this hard to make AMD fans look bad
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>>55938694
You should check compatibility before you buy, some aftermarket cards use custom PCBs.
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>>55938694
not if you plan to overclock
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>>55938711
Volta is just going to be Pascal with HBM.

As long as their TWIMTBP program exists and they can rewrite games' shaders at will, Nvidia has no need to make their hardware more robust at the expense of higher power draw.
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>>55938869
It's even simpler than that. So long as Nvidia has a performance lead against any segment comparable product AMD launches they have no need to implement hardware scheduling. Their CPU async driver work has very little overhead as it stands and not even the pissant performance gains generation over generation from Intel are a hindrance to it.

IF volta doesnt have more async hardware and IF Nvidia still leads in almost all segments they might not even need to use HWS unless AMD can figure out their own Maxwell-like secret sauce to boost their own native perf hugely.
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>>55938922
Fuck off with your FUD motherfucker
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>>55937867
Isn't the MSI 480 vastly more expensive?
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>>55932017
Crypto miners still use GPUs? Cheap ASIC boards absolutely crush even quad-GPU setups.
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>>55937867
The nitro is a hotter, louder, virtually non-overclockable card with a backplate that realistically looks like ass in the majority of builds.
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>>55931952
Bullshit, 100k units my ass dude.
Was going for the fucking Nitro 8GB but if course these cunts are sold right the fuck out.
I have no other GPU to fall back on so I threw down another $70 and got the Nitro Fury. Going to kill demons and blast some ass next weekend xD
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>>55938611
why do people cry so hard?

fuck off and kiss the pajeet

POO
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>>55935429
>this async meme again
you can talk when it translates to real life performance
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>>55933111
The reference one is loud and as no proper power managment.

There is no sane reason to buy a reference 480
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>>55931952
i only hope all the fucking scalpers, and miners get shafted with a bbc and lose everything
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>>55939150
What about the new memecoins? Is ethereum already too difficult for GPUs?
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>>55938426
Nigger you can play those games at 200FPS on a toaster.
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480 < 1080
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>>55938426
A 1060 will probably play those games at 4k 144hz if such a monitor existed.
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>>55939398
The fact they're even comparable when the 480 is 600 generations behind is incredible
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>>55939431
Oh you, THE RX 480 you silly.
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>>55936769
>the only ones showing the 1060 ahead

Top kek. The 1060 beats the 480 in literally every wide scale comparison. Pic related.
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>>55935320
The 480 really is a piece of shit when you compare it to the 1060. There is literally no reason to buy one when the 1060 exists.
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>>55940954
fury x only 10% faster than 1060? le kek desu
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>>55940954
what is this chart even
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>>55940974
the 1060 is more expensive though
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>>55941116
Not at the moment, with all the RX 480 hype price gouging.
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Now when everyone is buying a new cards, which used card should I buy as a poorfag?
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>>55941266
Honestly used cards are generally over-valued. I've been casually trying to buy a GTX 680 for about a year and no one is selling for less than $150. Retarded for a card that is four generations old and generally out-performed by the GTX 960 which is $170-$180 new.
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>>55931952
I'll wait 1 week and if that shit's not in stock I'm turning to Jewbay for a 970
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>>55932566
I do. Not paying $30 more for a nonreference meme. I'll take a slightly hotter card
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>>55941473
it's not about hotter. it's about broken motherboard.
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>>55941575
1 shekel has been deposited to your account panjeet
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>>55941882
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>>55941089
It's the 480 getting BTFO
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>>55931952
if they already done it a month ago
already got 1070
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>>55938553
so is this a meme or not? has this actually ever happened? can a GPU really "age" better with drivers? seems to me the 480 has worse performance in games, runs hotter, and uses more power. is AMD going to release some magical driver six months from now that make the 480 better than the 1060? I have never built a PC or bought from either brand, so I have no loyalty to either. I just want to buy the best card.
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>>55942117
No it's bullshit. In fact AMD cards age worse because they have much less support from game developers.
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>>55942117
if you want the best card, NVIDIA is the only choice. It's quite possible the 480 will beat the 1060 in future games, but:
AMD OEMs are shit
AMD drivers on Linux are shit
You'll pay more for electricity and A/C (depending on your climate)
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>>55941894
>btfo panjeet replies with memes
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AMD is being so bottom blasted by Intel on the CPU front and by Nvidia on the GPU front. poor AMD.
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>>55942159
there's a difference between evidence and memes
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>>55942179
not to you it seems
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All the Nvidia fanboys I've met usually drive a subcompact with a coexist sticker on the back. They live at home and work entry level jobs. Sometimes they've even taken a class at the local votech for A+ or the like.
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>>55942417
>look mom i posted it again
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>>55942417
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>>55942432
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>>55942432
top czech. does forza use vulkan or something?
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>>55942443
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>>55942449
these are all dx12
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>>55942405
And here's you
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>>55942459
i have to admit that I would go with the 480 over the 1060 despite being a nvidia fanboy.
Reasons include:

I want to support competition and I don't want AMD going bankrupt.

Ability to add another card for xfire later on.

vulkan is 'interesting'
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>>55942477
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>>55942405
That's funny because AMD can be argued for on a price/performance value, but NVIDIA owns the top end indisputably.
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>>55942488
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>>55942487
Might as well just donate to a charity if you want to help someone, instead of buying AMD. Because that's what AMD is at this point, a charity case.
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>>55942522
to be honest even without that bullet point in my post, i'd still lean towards AMD.
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>>55942479
>Typical cuck reaction
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>>55942535
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>>55942498
They own top end now though a recent change. Agree with you though considering you can grab two 470's or 480's and generally get better performance than a 1080 provided things work.
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>>55942571
Nvidia owns everything desu senpai. Top end, midrange, low end, all of it is better from Nvidia.
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>>55942502
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>>55942548
More!
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>>55942598
dat 1060 regression in vulkan lol

interesting how neck to neck the 480 and 1060 are in opengl. amd must of improved their opengl performance in the latest drivers.
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>>55942477
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>>55942117

Not a meme, but two things need to happen. First, more Vulcan/dx12 titles. Second, better drivers for rx 480.

Both will happen, but it might take a year. In two years 480 will be gnawing at 1070 heels. If they get decent multi gpu support (multiadapter) thing going on, you'll be able to buy 2 more 4gb rx's to go with your 8 gb one for $300 or so and play every game at 4K ultra forever.
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>>55942586
Yes. Nvidia owns all of it :^).
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>>55942644
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>>55942644
battlefield 1 should offer multi-gpu in dx12 mode. dice has typically done a great job with offering multi-gpu support.

mankind divided should be getting multi-gpu support as well but might not have it ready at release.

the new civ will offer full multi-gpu support and thats coming out this year too.

ashes offers mult-gpu and provides near 100% scaling on both cards. i remember reading an article awhile back where a guy ran a amd card along with a nvidia card and it worked well. what's nifty with dx12 multi-gpu is the ability to run intel, amd, and nvidia cards together.

another ran two 1060's in ashes as well and it scaled well. funny since nvidia wanted to kill sli but dx12 allows it. no need for bridges anymore.
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>>55942680
>kill sli
on midrange cards*
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>>55942673
Holy autism, this retarded made up graph keeps getting posted.

No source whatsoever, completely made up.
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>>55942697
>Whips dick out for Harambe!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1220928
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>>55942722
>neogaf forum post is the source

I really hope you aren't serious. Jesus christ AMD fags are so fucking retarded.
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>>55942117
Ask 7950 owners
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>>55938954
>FUD
>Fear uncertainty and doubt

I never disagreed with anything the person I was replying to said. AMD needs a paradigm change in their ISA model to keep pace with Nvidia on all metrics, not just one or two. Their pipe is too short and their ALU implementation is too physically simple to give what the market wants now. They have a huge convoluted instruction set to enable those simple as shit ALUs to do anything but the drawback is it takes many more cycles compared to Nvidia to get it done. The short pipe, which while it helps with misses and otherwise terribly optimized code, is also the clock speed limiter for the arch. Combine this with the instruction set and you have an arch that can process just about anything relatively slowly, but is physically simple enough to just cram a lot of those relatively slow cores and keep pace with competition performance wise. More transistor budget spent on a lot more independent units = more transistors used for interconnectivity circuits, power gating, etc.etc. and thus naturally more power drawn for a given similar die size versus the competitor.

I'm a fucking AMD fanboy, and believe me on this, but I know enough to say Nvidia isn't simply shoving morals down the tube and doing whatever people here think to gain every ounce of ill gotten advantage they can. They have a superior arch design in (non compute) perf/mm and perf/w, hands down.
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>>55942117
>>55942805
I have two 7950's still going strong and one is a touch faster than a stock 7970. Both are on two old 2500k i5's. Mantle on the cards ran good and Vulkan is another iteration albeit better so far. I haven't bothered with OpenGL so no clue. Drivers are fucking primo compared to when they were new.
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>>55942697
>its made up because i don't like it
nvidiots everyone
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>>55942853
Right now most of the games they see are shit like Tera, Roblox, Minecraft, Garry's Mod. TF2, L4D, PvZ, and some others.
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>>55942873
Look at the source, it's a fucking neogaf forum post where he compared benchmarks between different tests in different environments, aka complete bullshit.

AMDtards are so stupid they literally start making shit up.
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>>55931966
enjoy your year and a half before the gimps begin
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>>55943397
The 1060 is cheap as shit.
I have a 1080 but even if the gimp meme was real, I wouldn't be angry about losing 4% relative performance on a card after 3 or 4 years on a 1060.
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>>55943426
It's not real. In fact Nvidia cards are much more future proof because they're way better supported. Not to mention their failure rate is way lower than AMD, pic related.
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>>55942522
>Might as well donate to charity
>Because AMD is a charity

So... he should buy AMD like he's intending?
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>>55943447
Yes if you want to donate to a charity, give your money to AMD.
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>>55943447
He meant a real charity tho. Sick reading comprehension there my dude. That's why it was effective.
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>>55943440
The guy who did your pic only compared a single shitty AIB not even known for quality for AMD while using several different brands for nvidia

Why do nvidia shills always lie in everything they post?
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>>55932515
I want to say both, but buttcoin miners went too far.
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>>55934490
>mfw bought 970 in October for $270
>mfw Nvidia is paying me $30
>mfw sold bundled game as well
$210 for a 970 last year wasn't bad at all.
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>>55943503
no one mines with gpus anymore you dumb nvidia shill, is it just so hard for you to believe that AMD is selling thousands of cards to people that want to use them for gaymen
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>>55943340
So AMD shills are so desperate they're taking posts from neogay now, this is a new low, neogay is one of, if not the worst place on the internet

a forum full of numale betas and emasculated teenager who hate the sight of sexy women and who protest gaming companies if they include female sex appeal
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>>55943517
Nigga your side mentality is too strong. Can you even read? My post implied that I wanted to say both had a paper launch, but then I said that it wasn't the case, it was just buttcoin miners buying them in bulk. Never did I say that people weren't buying them for gaming as well. For fuck's sake man. Here's your (You).
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>>55933550
You clearly don't understand why GDDR5/X cards have more VRAM. Spoiler, it's because to achieve higher speeds they have to add more modules. Literally the only reason. If they could achieve 1080 speeds with 4gb they would. Know why? Because 4gb is enough.
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>>55943509
He didn't bought a 970 for $200

http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8

right now you can even get 980Ti for $300.
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>>55938711
>too bad volta is out next year

who spread this shitty meme? volta won't reach customers until 2018
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>>55943556
>it was just buttcoin miners buying them in bulk
No one mines with gpus in 2016 retard

>paperlaunch
Yea that's nvidia not AMD
http://techreport.com/news/30482/report-amd-shipping-100k-more-polaris-10-gpus-to-board-partners
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>>55931971
in stock at newegg.com
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>>55932941
>>/b/
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>>55933225
can it אהרן
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>>55943596
>B-stock bullshit
Fuck off.
Also that's now with the reduced prices due to the RX470/480 and the GTX 1060, I'm almost a year in with the 970 already.
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>>55931952
You guys are pathetic. I picked up an 8gb open box from Microcenter a few weeks ago. Best $200 I ever spent.
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>>55943719
>Fuck off.


No,you fuck off retard.
EVGA has godly customer support.

I'm almost two years in with my 970.

So fuck off newfag.
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>>55943741
Nice try EVGA. B-stock is still used goods.
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>>55939375
>>55939428
What about a GTX 960 then? I can get it for around 188€, which is 100€ less than the 1060.
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>>55939262
>what is vulkan and dx12
>[the current year] of our lord and savior kek
git gud
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>>55931952
Anadtech 1060 OC results absolutely BTFO of RX 480. It's literally over boys, better start the "the $150-$200 price point is where all the money is" propaganda train
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>>55939308
i hope they fail to sell any GPUs and get forced to take huge financial hitslosses for their fuckery
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>>55943741

They're customer support was pretty good back in 2006-2007 when I had to return 4 nvidia based motherboards because they were total pieces of shit.
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>>55938426
bitch my R9 280 at stock core and memory clocks gets damn near 140fps in them that shit is overkill if thats all youre going to use it for
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Nvidiot here. To be honest familia, 480 with a Freesync monitor is the best deal in the tier, 1060 plus Gsync monitor makes no sense, it defeats the purpose of being in that price bracket. Perfomance between the 480/1060 is a toss-up anyway, why not take advantage of these devices
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>>55936706
> nVidia recommended prices are strictly followed by retailers
> AMD recommended prices are ignored and retailers set huge markup margin
No good goyim, what makes you think that?
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>>55943767
It's okay, AMD fans will just wait for the 460
Or vega
Or zen
Or whatever the next big disappointment is
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>>55943781
Yeah I know, I was simply asking because GTX 1060 and RX 480 were suggested to me so many times I can't recall anymore. At the beginning I thought about a GTX 750Ti to play thise games, but people told me that it might not be enough, but now I'm more oriented towards the GTX 960.
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>>55942154
bitch winter is coming and i live north of the wall
i want to lower my heating bills with a housefire card, thats why i'm buying a thermi to just sit in the case powered on just to act as a space heater
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>>55943767
Enjoy your no async and dx12.
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>>55943782

I say this because i upgraded my old gpu and 1080p monitor to a GTX 1070/1440p@144hz monitor, and the difference was HUGE - even when the fps averages 80-100, gameplay is much, much more fluid than when on 60 fps High refresh rate with no tearing realy is that good, i recommend anyone who's still on their 1080p@60hz monitors to upgrade to a 144hz at least. And if you want to take advantage of Freesync/Gsync, makes more sense to pick the AMDrone route since Freesync monitors are cheaper than Gsync ones.
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>>55942654
;^3
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The difference between the various GPU's is so marginal as to be non-existent. Just get whichever GPU is cheaper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNNRGH3gMvg
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>>55943814
bitch sit tight for like three months and email me a PO box and i'll mail my cock-rubbed HIS shit-GPU to you when I replace it with a placeholder card
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>>55943796
>Reply to Thread No.55931952
meh, i'm waiting for the MSI 480 Gaming X to release, i'll buy one to hold me over until nVidia figures out for sure if they're dropping Volta Q2 of 2017 on 16nm or not and how Vega looks like its going to stack up to it, also waiting to see how the Skylake-X CPUs and Intel 200 series chipset to match on the LGA-2066 socket all look in Q2 2017 to match to a 4k 120Hz monitor that should stabilize in the market around that time.
then I'll run that setup for as long as I can once I pick between Vega and Volta and go back to saving for a 997 turbo.
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>>55940954
At least post an updated chart.That margin is shrinking every iteration of driver too and this was not even using the latest driver. A mild overclock and newest driver and they are pretty evenly match.
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>>55942739
Linking neofag just proves they're /v/tards.
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>>55943838
to tag onto your post another reason to go freesync even if youre an nVidia user is that nVidia may be forced to enable freesync support due to the direction that intel and amd are taking with freesync together.
Intel and AMD teamed up on freesync recently.

http://vrworld.com/2016/07/21/intel-make-bid-amds-rtg-no-gpus-cannonlake/

non confirmational speculation here earlier this year in march::::

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/intel.and.amd.partnership.rumors.marriage.between.2.tech.giants.not.far.fetched/82379.htm

i know its wccftech but its got some info to take with a grain of salt

http://wccftech.com/intel-talks-cross-licensing-amd-gpu-ip/
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>all these "don't buy reference" faggies itt
EKWB already has a water block for reference Rx 480, why wouldn't you buy it?
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>>55943899
The earliest I see Volta shipping is late 3Q2017 but they'd really only be competing with themselves. Vega will be a letdown to the AMDrones and at best will prompt a discounted Titan XP as 1080ti. OC'd 1060's are wiping the floor with RX 480.

Then again, Volta cards could be priced 20% higher than Pascals and/or drive Pascals down to completely wipe out AMD's market share while boosting nVidia profits.

In any case, AMD is in dire straights.
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>>55943912

Non-OC numbers don't matter anyway.
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>>55943645
Ethereum miners say otherwise.

http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8848/radeon-rx-470-hashrate
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>>55943645
>Ship 100k units to board partners one month after retail paperlaunch
wtf I love AMD now
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>>55943974

>buying water block for RX480
so how much is that $200 RX 480 now that you can only buy a $240 8GB version and you're now spending money on water cooling it? How is you're money not better spent on a 1070?
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>>55944005
AMDtards are complete morons. You know if they're stupid enough to buy an AMD card, they are stupid enough to do all kinds of other crap.
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>>55943945

Good post, didn't knew that. I really hope it happens, Nvidia deserves to get fucked for the Gsync Jewery, even though i fell for it. Luckily i got a Dell S2716DG on sale, otherwise i'd have to sell a kidney for a Asus/Acer monitor or do something stupid like buying SLI 480s or Fury X to go with a 1440p/144hz Freesync monitor
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>>55943999
what the fuck is the point in mining? in 3 months these gpus will be unusable anyway once the chinese bots start pouring in

it will be buttcoin all over again
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>>55943553
>a forum full of numale betas and emasculated teenager who hate the sight of sexy women and who protest gaming companies if they include female sex appeal

Yep. These are the same kind of degenerates who buy AMD.
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>>55944043
Why can you only fall to insults instead of provide actual facts to refute other peoples claims? It's childish.
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>>55944107
>childish
>problematic
neofag detected
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>>55944114
Point proven.
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>>55943838

Underrated post. People bicker about one card being better than the other, put when you put it on frame rates instead of percentages, you see the difference between them is 2-5fps, usually no bigger than 10fps. With that in mind, the next logical step is to put the display in the equation.
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>>55944163
You have to go back
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>>55943838
I'm going to do exactly that familia. Going to finally give the 970 a rest and buy a fat Vega card with a freesync monitor.
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>AYYMD
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>>55933890
What is this OpenGL?
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What the hell? Is AMD retarded? There are still no non-reference RX480 available but you can already buy non-reference RX470. And reference RX470 is not available as well.
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>>55946011
AMD caters to buttcoin miners. No one else is retarded enough to buy their shit for gaming.
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>>55946028
wasnt GPU mining entirely replaced by ASICs years ago?
if it didnt, how sooon will miners sell off their cards? And are those cards still a good buy or is it like a car with 200k miles on dirt roads?
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>>55946103
a car with 200k miles on dirt roads
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>>55942680
>nvidia wanted to kill sli

more like external SLI bridge running out of bandwidth for shit like UHD@>60fps.

they need to copy XDMA ASAP
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>480 for $200
bong here, is this utter shit in america or the truth
because it's over £200 here
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Cant find any of these fucking cards unless I want to pay 300+
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>>55943767

>5 fps gain over stock RX 480 for $50 more
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>>55952258
Lets be fair here and assume no one of sound mind would buy a stock rx 480 and compare it to an AIB 480.
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>>55945098
You got no replies because almost all of that stuff is niche case, extremely minor, and Nvidia has their fair share of driver hiccups and relatively unimportant issues as well. Fuck's sake almost half the list has to do with Crossfire on new engines (SLI and CFX are going to be nearly impossible to implement from now on), DX12 hybrid GPU modes which must be a god awful clusterfuck to handle, and DX12 implicit multi GPU.
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>tfw cancelled order for Nitro+ for MSI Gaming X 480 but it hasn't even popped up in any store yet and I'll probably have to wait even more now.
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>>55934057
>best price/perf ratio around
Whats the point of that? Why would price performance ratio even matter as long as its still worse? Is that the way you go through life? Shop groceries based on the amount of calories you can get per cent? Best price performance ratio is fucking irrelevant because you will never buy anything else but low-mid level products, no matter the industry.
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Buy AMD, my EVGA 1070 FTW that I OCed cant even run Black Desert on Ultra settings in high end mode without dropping below 60fps. Its fucking pathetic.
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>>55952492
>comparing a biological need to a luxury product

Thinking this way is fucking retarded. You don't NEED to buy a graphics card. Any time you're buying something you don't strictly NEED, and the amount of money you have to spend isn't irrelevant, you should always try to get the best deal you can. Even when you DO NEED the product in question, bang for buck should be considered. I could go to the grocery store and buy individual potatoes for two dollars a pound that are the best potatoes in the store, OR I could buy a ten pound sack of slightly inferior potatoes for five dollars. At the end of the day, they're just fucking potatoes anyway.

You're defending consumerism right now. Really, there's no moral, spiritual, or logical value in spending money. You've just been conditioned by marketers to want to spend lots of money and to believe that spending more money than your neighbour makes you better than him. It's a lie, bro.
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>>55952597
Who says that I dont need something? Why would I buy a 480 when I want to play 1080p games at 120Hz with everything on Ultra? Best price-performance is only relevant if you dont care about details but only about 'will my computer run stuff at the lowest details'. Price to performance ratio is important because thats how every single customers bases his purchase decisions on anyway, most simply do it subconsciously. Best price-performance ratio is fucking irrelevant though. Always has been and always will be, especially in tech.

> At the end of the day, they're just fucking potatoes anyway.
Literally the argument of a retard who is very likely poor. Next you'll tell me that the difference between a bespoke and a mall suit is neglectable, after all both are suits/garments.
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>>55943999
>>55933910
>>55935823
>>55939357


Anyone have that picture of the Ethereum miners with a $80,000 invoice of RX480's?
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>>55934057
Do you drive a diesel car? How about eat mostly beans? There are more criteria to purchasing a gpu just like there is to purchasing a car or ingredients. What is generally suggested is buying the best video card you can afford at the time you are shopping for it. "Best" meaning highest performing not price/perf ratio.
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>>55952746

> "Best" meaning highest performing not price/perf ratio.

ITT sillyness. Best without context is meaningless. For a gpu - or any product really - to be the besat at whatever it will have to meet the requirements of the user rather than some random belief that moar = superior.

Is a ferrari faster than a ford focus? Sure. Is it better? Well if you have a family and their luggage to haul about no, it is not.

Price versus performance within the gpu world is a very important metric for msot users and most people do not have an unlimited budget. For those that do generally speaking all other factors beyond raw performance are secondary (which makes the praise for Nvidia's power effeciency hilarious when looknig at high end cards).

tl;dr no u
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>>55952888
>Best without context is meaningless.
>without context
U wut m8?
>"Best" meaning highest performing
Have you never been to the logical increments site? Even Falcon, with his AMD bias, recognizes this.
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>>55952929

Falcon's guide is entirely based around most performance within a price tier until you get to the upper end which is entirely "lol, do whatever".

>with his AMD bias

I see no AMD bias for the most part, just a reasonably well thought out builds within a given budget.
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>>55952888
>Price versus performance within the gpu world is a very important metric for msot users
[citation needed]
Even a 50w difference doesn't mean much over a year. Assuming you play on your computer 4-5 hours a day (quick and dirty average between NEETs and working people) @ $0.10/kWhr you'd pay $8 more a year.
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>>55952969
>Falcon's guide is entirely based around most performance within a price tier
Thank you for supporting the point.

>I see no AMD bias for the most part
Lurk more. He's been in the odd gpu thread of recent and posting his "archive" of stupid shit nvidiots say.
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>>55952971

>[citation needed]

AMD claim that most gpu sales are 300 dorra and under (its part of their marketing slides for polaris) and as such, getting the most performance for this sorto f money is naturally important for people, otherwise they would (inherently) be buying more expensive cards. With some clever googling you might be able to find the pie chart break down they have.

>>55952984

> "archive" of stupid shit nvidiots say.

If its stupid shit it deserves to be laughed at. The fact of the matter is there are considerably more Nvidia fans than AMD ones and thus the noise:quality ratio will be higher. Pic fukken related.
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>>55953057
>AMD claim that most gpu sales are 300 dorra and under
Do you even understand what a "citation" is?
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>>55953057
>If its stupid shit it deserves to be laughed at.
That may be true, but when asked where is his "archive" of stupid shit AMDrones said he didn't have one and lied about why he had an "archive" of stupid shit nvidiots say.

>there are considerably more Nvidia fans than AMD ones
[cita-
Oh wait. That's a waste of time.
What is you basis for believing this is even remotely true? Because Nvidia outsells AMD four to one? You know, people can make a choice without being a fanboy.
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>>55953119

>You know, people can make a choice without being a fanboy.

They can and some do. Look at any other area where its us vs them, the side that is larger will have more fanboys - /g/'s apple threads should be a decent point of reference.
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>>55952534
No one cares
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>>55953161
>Look at any other area where its us vs them, the side that is larger will have more fanboys
Based upon this criteria, I'd say there are far more AMDrones, especially here in /g/.
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>>55953190

/g/ just loves dank memes and is totally uninterested in anything resembling facts - why do you think this board references memes that are heading towards best part of a decade old?

>>55953185

Its the future you chose amigo.
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>>55940954
>>55943912
now 1060 is faster than rx480
after 1 year their performance going to be equal
after 2 years rx480 going to be ~15% faster
after 3 years rx480 going to be ~30% faster

if you change your gpu every half year, yup go with nvidia
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>>55953261

>290x now 3 tiers faster than release

I suspect hawaii will outlive even tahiti as GOAT.
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>>55953309
How good is it in vendor neutral (non-AMD sponsored) games?
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>>55953309
I don't know man, Tahiti is the GOAT that just can't stop giving. It's still fine for 1080p and it's more than a few years old already.
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>>55953319

Depends on what qualifies as neutral - /g/ has the inherent belief all DX12 titles are AMD sponsored.

Pic technically related - its not a gaming evolved or gamesworks title, but /g/ derides it as an AMD sponsored game.

>>55953340

Hawaii is seeing more gains in DX12 which is what let it live even longer than the almighty 7970.
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>>55943596
>http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8

Can I use PayPal on the EVGA site?
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>>55953383
>/g/ has the inherent belief all DX12 titles are AMD sponsored.
I wouldn't confuse AMDrones with /g/. . .

Didn't Oxide Games work pretty closely with AMD to develop AoTS? Also, I'd suggest getting an updated version.
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>tfw bough a 1060 today instead of waiting on 480 bullshit

No proper non-reference designs and really shitty availability made it the only sane option.

Also doesn't help that the 470 is getting price gouged to hell and is at or higher than 480 4GB prices for even the 4GB version of the 470.

Add in the fact that AMD doesn't have a proper rolling recorder while nVidia has shadowplay, I just couldn't rationalize to bother waiting.
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>>55953453

>Didn't Oxide Games work pretty closely with AMD to develop AoTS?

One of the developers (Kollock) claimed on OCN that they spent more time working with Nvidia to get shit working than they did with AMD. The drama over AoTS is why pic related was posted.

Oxide went to use async compute on maxwell as the driver claimed it supported it but performance was less than satisfactory.
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>>55953092
>Citation
>a quotation from or reference to a book, paper, or author, especially in a scholarly work

AMD is Author of the quote.
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>>55953517
>to get shit working than they did with AMD.
You mean after they worked with AMD so they had to re-write/modify things to work with Nvidia?

Not say that it isn't vendor neutral but it seems AMD got the jump on Nvidia for DX12.
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>>55953562
Thank you for making it clear that you do not understand what a citation is. What you just quoted is a literary citation which is useless for persuading anyone of anything. Let me fix that for you.
>Citations have several important purposes: . . . to allow the reader to determine independently whether the referenced material supports the author's argument in the claimed way . . .
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>>55935702

How is 1060 stillborn? If you're gaming at 1080p, you're getting 60-80fps in everything with options maxxed.

If you are playing at 1080p you should get a 1060. If you are playing at 1440p you should get a 1070. If you are playing at 4K you should get a 1080 or a Titan.
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>>55953495
Fair enough, luckily I could get a 470 right now for £230.

http://www.ebuyer.com/755196-msi-radeon-rx-470-gaming-x-8gb-gddr5-dual-link-dvi-d-hdmi-2x-radeon-rx-470-gaming-x-8g
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>>55953672

> AMD got the jump on Nvidia for DX12.

That is entirely the point. Reading between the lines a bit what is current 11.3 is what MS had planned to be DX12. AMD smelled blood with Mantle and (more orl ess) MS adopted it as the basis for current DX12 rather than run the risk of giving up the api advantage to Opengl next (aka vulkan).

http://www.gamedev.net/topic/666419-what-are-your-opinions-on-dx12vulkanmantle/#entry5215019
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>>55953795
>That is entirely the point.
That most current DX12 titles are not vendor neutral? Well that's not unexpected.

A lot of posts seem formed on the basis that all DX12 games will favor AMD cards but we see from examples such as AotS, RotTR, and Time Spy that this is simply not so.

Most games have favored Nvidia because they have the resources and history of working with developers. The important question, in my opinion, is whether or not this jump is enough to off-set this. I just don't think AMD can carry this beyond the first few titles as AMD tries to maximize its limited resources.
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>>55953883

> AotS, RotTR, and Time Spy that this is simply not so.

Are you a fool?

AoTS prefers AMD, RoTR finally prefers AMD after 7 patches and timespy is not big on async compute despite what 3dmark claims.
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>>55953968
>RoTR finally prefers AMD after 7 patches
Yeah, no.
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>>55953968
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>>55954065

So we have two conflicting charts both from around the same timeframe - though they are at different resolutions.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/rise_of_the_tomb_raider_directx_12_performance_update/3

While limited in scope OC3D are showing the fuiry x pulling ahead of the 980ti on the latest patch.
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>>55932017
Yea except they only had like a fucking 100 of them.
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>>55954115
>So we have two conflicting charts . . . from around the same timeframe
Your chart doesn't include current GPUs.

>fuiry x pulling ahead of the 980ti on the latest patch
That's nice but of limited value today. The only time anyone suggests buying either of those cards is when they cannot (or do not want to) suggest buying a 1070.
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>>55954170

Your chart is also from a different site and at a different resolution, so testbed and resolution are both factors into the difference in results.

I think the tl;dr from this is more data is required.
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Keep wasting your money to upgrade your GPU with minimum gains. I'm still running a gtx 470 at 2560x1600
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>>55954251
Did I raise any point about differences in results or that your results are mostly irrelevant to the point?
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>tfw a 660 ti still performs well in every game you play and you still want to upgrade.
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>>55931952
>100k units

Not even 100k britbongs in UK have a GPU that costs more than 100 quids.
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>>55952436
More like he got no responses because AMD shills tend to ignore and deny any issues related to AMD drivers.
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>>55954579
Gibbo was always a massive AMD shill (according to his posts Fury X is equal to 980 Ti). Honestly though I don't understand AMD shills fixation with that guy, he will shill for everyone just to sell their garbage products and AMD is no different, his posts are only related to UK and OCUK isn't even cheapest option.
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>>55931966
This. Got a friend to buy a 1060 instead of a 480 because I told him of the supply problems.

Spoiler: he loves the 1060 and nvidia.

Feels good to save a fellow friend from dying in a potential amd housefire.
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>>55954641
>>>/v/
>>>/r/pcmr
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>>55936744
Damn the denial is real. Life tip: Nobody outside of /g/ and r/AMD gives two fucks about craptacular Pajeet's garbage manufactured next to the shitty water of Ganges and market share shows it.
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>>55935320
Don't forget it's more expensive than an aib 1060 too. I bet amd purposely sold it at shitty prices in europe just to fuck everyone over for jokes. I legit think that amd will do that. Fucking cancerous company.
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>>55941352
GTX 680

Why don't you try its rebranded sister, the GTX 770. You can find them for $135 used.

The GTX770 outperforms the 680 handily too.
>>55941266

At the moment I'm using a GTX770 and plan to buy either a RX470 or GTX 970. Whichever I can get from America for less than $200.
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>>55954628

>implying scan
>implying novatech
>implying dabs
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>>55954680
AMD cards are fabed in germany and america you dumb nigger
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>>55954758
The 470 is cheaper and more powerful (if you get a good no reference one) than the 970 unless you want to buy used. But buying used tech is never a good idea.
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>>55943912
Are you stupid or what? The graph you're calling outdated actually shows the 1060 to be only 7% ahead (100/93=1.07) whereas the graph you linked showed the 1060 to be 11% ahead (107/96=1.11). The 1060 is actually gaining performance over the 480. Based nvidia.
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>>55952969
Falcon can't to anything right. His fucking uk build guides all say to buy 480 aib when the 1060 is the same price as the reference 480 here in the uk and is also faster.
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>>55954884
Of course they are. The average German is poor as fuck.
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>>55955001
9 of 15 of the games are gameworks
its a shit graph
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>>55955055
>t. murifat
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>>55953740
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-mini-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-106-zt.html

Or you can spend the same price and get an aftermarket 1060.
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>>55955078
or you could fuck off back to /v/
>>>/v/
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>>55955056
That's not the point. The dense cunt I replied to said the 480 was gaining performance when he can't even do simple primary school maths. It's fucking division.
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>>55955062
Gotta disappoint you, I am bavarian.
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>>55955090
Why are you so mad? Don't blame anyone else except amd for being incapable of releasing a product at a competitive price. A fucking shit tier 470 is the SAME price as a 1060. Amd need to die already.
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>>55955040
There is a separate UK guide on LI?
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>>55955148
its just you then Bavaria a shit
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>>55955253
Just change the country to UK at the top. It's a shitty build guide though because it's just the American list changed to uk prices so even if the 1060 is cheaper than a 480 in the uk the LI list will still show a 480 as the recommended card as it's cheaper in the USA. Same goes for other components too.
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>>55955040
>Falcon can't to anything right.
No shit. He lists the 470 and 480 at MSRP but the 1060 at something other than the MSRP. He proves to be an AMDrone.
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Enjoy the 83C+ temps on day one.
Must be great for the lifespan of the card.
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>>55955478

Fun fact: the mosfets AMD use on their vrms are rated for 125c.
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>>55955671
Anyone else getting deja vu from the Fermi days?
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>>55955671

their performance still degrades at higher temperatures.
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>>55955752

There is no denying this, but at the very least AMD's referenced pcb is rated to handle these extreme temperatures, (which may not be true for Nvidia). As a general rule AMD design its pcb to take far more punishment than their clocks and voltage actually allow for - if you can reasonably cool hawaii for example the reference pcb is good for nearly 1.4v.
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Are there any Dark Souls 3 FPS charts with the new 400 range in it?
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>>55955336
Because the RX470 and RX480 are widely available at MSRP while the 1060 isn't, so why are you shilling on an anime imageboard panjeet?
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>>55956024
>Because the RX470 and RX480 are widely available at MSRP
Where?
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>>55956024
I've seen more 1060s available for me to purchase right now at msrp than 480s which are all out of stock at msrp pricing.
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>>55956077
Newegg

>>55956087
Reserve one then you stupid shill
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>>55956194
>Newegg
I just looked at NE and they have one 470@$210. A good $30 above MSRP or what is listed on LI.
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>>55956194
Nah I'd rather buy a 1060
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>>55956925
>Nah I'd rather be a cuck
ftfy
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>>55957021
>Nah I'd rather be a cuck

But I'm not buying a 480.
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>>55957069
You are a cuck because you are buying a card that doesn't have proper dx12 and vulkan support in 2016.
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>>55957103
And you are deluded for buying a weak dx11 card at a time when the most popular games are dx11. Everyone other than deluded shills knows dx12 won't take off till 2018 at least. If you're buying a card now you're buying it to play the big games like gta 5, witcher 3, fallout Etc and not because of some q4 2017 dx12 game. I'm not going to spend money on a card to wait 2 years to fully see its potential in every game. It will be outdated by then. Both these cards struggle now in some games with maximum settings at 1080p so in 2 years time they'll be dead offerings just like all the previous gen x60s and x80s which are already showing signs of being outdated when used in 95% of recent major game titles.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Stay deluded shill. Literally 1 game on that list with relevant dx12 support and it's a shitty greenlight indie game which runs at 20 fps high settings on even a gtx 1080. Fuck off with "its all about t-the future, y-you'll see!" garbage. I'll buy a dx11 card in a year where dx11 games are still the majority by absolute fucking miles, to play all the best games which also happen to be dx11.
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