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The copyright lobby wants to block illegal downloads at the OS level

http://www.golem.de/news/nach-isp-blockaden-urheberlobby-will-sperren-auf-betriebssystemebene-1608-122516.html

This is just what we need for the year of the linux desktop to finally happen
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>>55914755
>it's a Hans thinks everybody speaks kraut episode
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>>55914755
http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-should-ban-downloads-of-pirated-content-organization-says-506973.shtml

https://torrentfreak.com/rightsholders-want-microsoft-ban-pirated-software-windows-160803/
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>>55914755
Will never happen. Not only is it unenforceable as no system on earth could easily determine content you paid for or content used under fair use, but no tech company will agree to such a scheme.
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>>55914783
>is that a sign of post-nation era?
makes you think
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>>55914755
Linux will never implement this
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>>55914838
You can probably code an OS to make it block any .torrent file and magnet link.

If this shit keeps up, you may see Windows 10 jailbreaks.
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>>55914847
Linux distros that don't will be made impossible to run on newer hardware because of things like "Secure Boot" and "Intel Management Engine"
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>>55914893
Then we stop buying newer hardware and hardware companies will bleed money. Fantastic solution.
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>>55914873
But many pieces of legal software are distributed in such a way, plus then the RIAA/MPAA shilling BitTorrent Inc will be out of the job.
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Why not go full pwnis and do hardware Intel AMD CPU mobo level
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>>55914924
M$ doesn't give two shits about that. Besides, they are trying to get rid of Linux. I hope you made a Linux disk...
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>>55914893
It will always be possible to run Linux on servers, because otherwise the internet would collapse

So the worst case scenario is having to buy xeons. Big whoop, I already do
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>>55914893
also,
>he thinks the management engine is a feature design to stop linux from running
shows how clueless you are

We actually use the management engine (and AMT) at work, and no, it's not some evil NSA backdoor installed to weaken your crypto keys. In fact, your mainboard probably doesn't support it (it's an enterprise feature, so they charge you for it, the jews)
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>>55914838

The law don't need tech companies to agree.
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>>55914898

We won't. That's the fun part.
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>>55915020
What will new hardware be for if you can't run it?
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>>55915033
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>>55914893
>>55914975
Also, secure boot is a legitimate security feature which prevents all sorts of tampering attacks

for example, you could use secure boot to sign the merkle root of an encrypted zfs (or so) into your bootloader, which makes sure that if somebody removes your disks to tamper with the boot process (and install a rootkit that way), they would be unable to

secure boot is perfectly compatible with linux, and in fact linux can use it to protect you against hardware tampering..

but keep reading those tinfoil hat conspiracy websites if it makes you happy
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>>55914945
>Trying to get rid of Linux
No. No they honestly could not give two shits about Linux. It's just not competitive.
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>>55915100
Riiigggghhhhttttt

http://betanews.com/2016/08/03/windows-10-anniversary-update-delete-linux-partition/
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Not practical in any sense.
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>>55914975
Nice try, CIA nigger.
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>>55914783
Every time I see this webm I get really really mad
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>>55915122
Go ahead and try using “amttool” on the IP of your AMT chipset then, which I'm sure you know because you've configured it in your BIOS, right?
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>>55914783
>>55915125
Context on the webm? I don't get it
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>>55914755
>>55914847
>>55914893
>>55914945
>>55914955
>>55914975
>>55915093
>>55915100
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>55915093
Using UEFI opens you up to those nifty UEFI rootkits which will be nearly impossible to detect or remove.
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>>55915179
Chancellor of Germany snatching a German flag away in disgust because she hates her own country and its people. Imagine Obama snatching an American flag with that look on his face
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>>55915200
well meme'd
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>>55915179
Guy was waving a German flag on stage and the German chancellor got rid of it. Can't have any pride in their country
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>>55915113
This seems like a result of oversimplifying the install process to the point where manual partition management isn't possible anymore, rather than an active malice specifically targeted at Linux

But with Microsoft, anything's possible. That said, Microsoft does actually do stuff like cross-sign the ubuntu UEFI stubs so you can install ubuntu out of the box on a windows OEM PC without even needing to turn off secure boot (or adding new signing keys), so it's not like the company is 100% hate
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>>55915208
>>55915214
Personally, I also dislike fanatic nationalism. I can't stand people who hang flags from their cars or whatever after a football game. It just pisses me off
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>>55915219
But I want to install Fedora, not windows lite
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>>55915244
Microsoft also cross-signed Fedora's shim
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>>55915238
what are you, Belgian?
if even your country's leaders can't be nationalist, what's the point of being a country?
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>>55915258
Excellent, thanks
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I want this to happen. Anyone using Windows 10 deserves it, and worse.

Let them burn.
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>>55915268
I'm from Germany

I think fanatic nationalism only helps to braindwash you into overglorifying your country and ignoring all of the flaws it has.

I want a political leader that realizes and understands how shitty things are so they can actually improve it, rather than some rose-tinted stargazer who thinks things are fine as they are
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>>55915284
Make Deutschland great again.
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>>55915268
Most of Europe is thoroughly cucked at this point. You can't show any national pride for fear of upsetting the Muslim immigrants who'll be running the country a couple of hundred years from now.

>>55915284
t. Mehmet Babacan
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>>55915244
>>55915271
You can also disable secure boot completely, or add your own favorite distro's signing key to the list of trusted public keys.

Both of these being possible is actually required for Microsoft's “windows-ready” certification process, so you won't find an OEM PC on the market that doesn't support both.
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>>55915219
Once M$ sees Linux as a threat to the market share, since more and more people are switching, they will aggressively try to take it out. Similar with Apple and jailbreaking. The anniversary update was pretty much a foreshadow. You can't trust the Jews.
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>>55915284
Nationalism like the kind that lead to Hitler was based on fear and prejudice not just blind patriotism. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your country and still acknowledging that it did some bad things in the past that you're not proud of. You can be proud of the fact that you have improved since then.
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>>55915284
Fuck he's been Merkeled
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>>55915304
Good joke. I'm 100% natural, no filthy mudslime blood in my system. (My lineage is from a family of royalty, so we have a coat of arms and extensive family tree that I can trace back to carl the great)

Immigrants haven't ruined my country yet. Hopefully the craze will die down before it becomes unlivable.
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>>55915330
I never mentioned hitler or compared anything to him

stop reading “nationalism” as “national socialism”
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Is fucking /pol/ leaking onto /g/? I guess Trump is that popular on the Chan. MAGA friends
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>>55915284
>>55915363
This guy is obviously just some fuck that escaped from the containment board. Why are you guys falling for this shit?
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>>55915363
I'm German. My mother is Danish and my father is French. I can trace my lineage back exactly one generation because both my parents were bastards. I have unknown blood and no coat of arms and more likely than not no relation to any 'the greats'.

But at least I'm not a cuck.
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>>55915363
>Immigrants haven't ruined my country yet which totally means they won't xDDD
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>>55915409
If you mean /pol/, I don't go there at all.

Why can't somebody criticize some aspect of modern society without it automatically being linked to “hurr stormfront vote trump” bullshit?
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>>55915422
It's a defense mechanism.
>I'm right and they're wrong but I don't have a single fact to back that up.
>I'll say they're Nazis.
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>>55915422
Some anons think that you are shitposting /pol/ style.
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It's not possible to implement such a thing
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>>55915451
Closed source OS, for all you know it has already been done and it just waiting for a 1Kb update to enable it.
M$ has a lot of good software engineers, but just about everything we see on Windows 10 was clearly done by Pajeets. So,what do you think those guys were doing while Rajaesh and Farida made the front end?
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>>55915100
>could not give two shits about Linux. It's just not competitive.
are you retarded ? That's been years since microsoft is afraid of linux. Wake up boy, you're 18 years late on that topic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
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>>55915451
It's possible to make a blacklist for known infringing content but there's nothing forcing people to actually enable the blacklist and a lot of people would probably rather leave it disabled.
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>>55915449
>shitposting
What would be the purpose of shitposting on an anonymous imageboard? “trolling” people simply for the kicks of getting a reaction out of them got old 10 years ago.

I think “shitposting” has become an over-applied term, just like “botnet”. In reality, most “shitposts” are probably either people expressing different opinions (that you don't agree with) or people who are simply uninformed (about a technological topic)

It's probably amplified by the fact that 4chan is the only website that allows vulgarity, so a controversial opinion mixed with an inane way of expressing it can easily be misconstrued as deliberate “shitposting” when it really isn't.
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>>55914873
Since when can 'illegal' content only be acquired through torrents?
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>>55915547
RMS copypasta: Shitpost Edition.
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>>55915284
Here we go again with Germany being the cuck of the thread
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>>55915547
New pasta
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>>55915330
>There's nothing wrong with being proud of your country

Yes, everything is wrong with it. 'Muh cuntry' is just a bunch of corrupt politicians, except maybe if you live in Iceland.

> You can be proud of the fact that you have improved since then.

Feeling shame or pride about what people other than you personally did is as retarded as you can get. You must be American if you think this is normal.

Patriotism only happens through propaganda, and is by definition irrational.
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>>55915732
>Iceland
Grass isn't greener there
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>>55914873
Already did it
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>>55915805
Maybe not, but with a population that small you'd think politicians are more closely looked at. That and they actually jailed some banksters.
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>>55915179
idiot was holding the german flag while clapping
german chancellor didn't want one of her party members hitting the german flag on camera and gave it back to the cheering patriots around the camera view.
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>>55914755
Well this is gonna be fun. I predict that everyone will start using Linux (Debian is stable and easy after Ubuntu does the blocking too). Eventually you'll have the blocking happening at the hardware level where you can't install Linux at all (has already happened). This will lead to people buying only old used computers. Tech companies will either realize the error of their ways and produce open hardware or shrivel and die because nobody buys their bullshit.
>>55914783
>not just translating the page to your native language
How does it feel to have an IQ of around 40?
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>>55914755
Bravo.

It's about fucking time.

I will install whatever OS implements this block on every single device I can get my hands on.

Fucking pirates need to pay.
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>>55916020
Good goy.
I just like to share my stuff with everyone. There's nothing wrong with sharing.
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>>55915732
>'Muh cuntry' is just a bunch of corrupt politicians
If a country only worked in the interest of its politicians then no one would willingly live in it. There has to be some kind of reason for a person to want to live in a country, like protection against foreign invaders, medical care, a police force to enforce law and order and prevent violent unrest, environmental protections, infrastructure, waste collection, and obviously still having personal freedoms to be able to do things without the government interfering.

>Patriotism only happens through propaganda, and is by definition irrational.
I see patriotism as pride in your country because you enjoy the benefits of living in the country. It might help to view a country as basically a large co-op organization. When the country does well then the people living and working there benefit. They get higher wages and more comfortable living conditions and better infrastructure and other benefits. It's like enjoying your job.
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>>55916020
You realize the only thing you're doing is preventing yourself from pirating if you install it on your own machines, right?
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>>55916110
> Implying I don't own and operate a reputable electronics repair shop.

I will continue the fight against pirate scum as long as I can. It's my solemn duty and a citizen of the planet.
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>>55916176
>your repair shop formats the user's drives and installs windows 11 botnet edition over their linux distros
enjoy being sued and out of business, faggot
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>>55914755
this is why we need GNU and free software, they can't do this on GNU or BSD systems, I reccomend OpenBSD, Debian, Trisquel and FreeBSD
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>>55916176
>Citizen of the planet
Good useless eater. You already love the leash.
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>>55915944
Eventually an open CPU arch will have to be built, After we do that we can start 3D printing MOBOs and laptop chassis and build our own computers that respect our freedoms.
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>>55915732
>Patriotism only happens through propaganda, and is by definition irrational.

Are you mentally retarded?
The core basis of Human history, the most rational and logical mindset, is precisely the mindset of "Do 100 times more good to those who were good to you, and treat 100 times worse those who treated you badly".

A country is defined by 2 things: Sovereignty and Legitimacy. If a country lacks either, it's not a country.
A country only has legitimacy if it protects its own people staunchly. See Croats and Hungarians for instance in terms of extradition of their own nationals. Never gonna happen. And all their nationals know it. And that prioritization and sense of security and protection from foreigners is what gives their governments legitimacy. That's why they are so unified.

To argue that patriotism is illogical or irrational, you are either a foreigner butthurt and/or jealous about other nations not treating you as they treat their citizens;
or you are running an agenda (like being a butthurt foreign content creator who is butthurt that other nations care more about keeping as much money within the economy to build infrastructure and quality of life, instead of incarcerating their own citizens (thus losing legitimacy) to fill up a foreigner's wallet (like yourself) over something as irrelevant and bottom-of-the-barrel-level as digital fucking products.

Or you are a faggot immigrant among many faggot immigrants who escaped their own nation leaving it in ruins, because the only people who can fix the home (irresolute, irresponsible faggots) are too busy running away instead of organizing and doing shit back home.
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>>55914783
I asked a German exchange student about this webm and he said it's just weird to be patriotic in Germany... that's why she didn't want the flag in the picture.
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>>55915093
It's annoying when you have to sign kernel modules so they'll load during boot
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>>55916056
>If a country only worked in the interest of its politicians then no one would willingly live in it.

You're assuming most people understand politics.

>There has to be some kind of reason for a person to want to live in a country

Being born somewhere and having family and friends there is easily the greatest motivator for most people. Infrastructure, are you high?

>I see patriotism as pride in your country

Yes, that's exactly what it is, well done.

>When the country does well then the people living and working there benefit. They get higher wages and more comfortable living conditions and better infrastructure and other benefits. It's like enjoying your job.

Haha, you dont actually believe this do you? It would be nice if it were true, sure, but it hardly ever is.
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>>55915179
Merkel is a Globalist.
Globalists are retards.

The End.
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>>55916275
OpenRISC and PPC
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>>55916367
Socialist Detected
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>>55916322
Butthurt American detected, must be a military drone, right?
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>>55916385
Eww socialism
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>>55916406
No. A guy who was born under Communism and learned better.
The people in this part of the world have already experienced under the Commie government what it looks like when political correctness is being used as an excuse to put oneself on a pedestal while thought policing other people. Same as hardcore religiousfags using the excuse of purity and morality to put themselves on a pedestal and excuse pulling inquisitions onto others.
You faggots to the west are only learning this now.
You are only now learning that the Horeshoe Theory is in fact true, and both left and right hold more in common than now.
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>>55915409
>containment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MiqPQ1dVg4
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>>55915208
Michelle Obama's "first time I've ever been proud of my country" comment wasn't far off.
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>>55916460
>implying patriotism isnt just religion with a different kind of God.

Alrighty mate.

Also funny how often ex commies think they understand the world but fail to build a decent poverty free society. Stay pleb.
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>>55916336
Hitler'll do that to ya
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>>55915914
Where do you see that guy clapping exactly?
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>>55915944
lol you're delusional
the number of people who care about that kind of thing won't even swing 10% of the marketshare
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>>55916336
A good friend of mine is German and he said this same thing except he justified it saying it's inappropriate to wave a flag around like that. Really sad.
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>>55916564
Not that guy and not (much of) a patriot but

>implying patriotism isnt just religion with a different kind of God.

At least you could argue that it's some sort of a (barely) tangible god. For most people, that is more than enough.
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in the future there will not be pc anymore. everything will be computed on the cloud and all users get are the interface.
people will pay according to their usage so if you need to do video editing you have to pay more than someone who just browse facebook.
users will pay for gtx 1080 level 'performance' and get it. That way no one can cheat the system anymore.
since everything is computed on the cloud, there is total control of who can access what and everything you do will be recorded and used to profile you.
this is what lots of futuristic fiction shows anyway and it's starting to become reality.
i don't want to have a big ass pc taking up space to provide me high performace crap.
i just want a monitor and kb + mouse and have high performance shit.
also, internet will be available like air and everyone will have access to it. instead of paying for internet speed, you pay for the services you want. everyone have the theoretical max speed
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>>55915511
Microsoft being afraid of linux is like a doberman being afraid of a retarded poodle
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>>55916176
good goy keep watching cnn and vote trump
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>>55916598
This.
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>>55916650
To be fair, Linux is one normalfag-friendly distro/UI away from being a threat. Not LOLWINFAGS BTFO, but a genuine thorn in the eye.

Of course, with freetards being autistic retards it won't happen soon (perhaps ever) but it is always a possibility.
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>>55916643
Sure, for most people the traditional fairytale God is enough. The point is that worshipping something that doesn't give a shit about you is irrational. In that sense patriotism and religion are the same.
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>>55916737
I think its only one popular preinstall away. Plenty of distros now are normie friendly.
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>>55916354
Then disable secureboot and live with the risk

also, doesn't your build system do this automatically?
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>>55916741
>The point is that worshipping something that doesn't give a shit about you is irrational.

I agree in case of religious "gods" but like I said, a country is slightly more tangible than some bearded guy in the sky. It has infrastructure, culture etc.

If those are good and people actually helped to create it as such, why should they not be allowed to feel proud of that?

I do see your point in trying to be as independent as possible but people are best at creating stuff when they work together and feel a sense of belonging/indentity. Otherwise they end up as NEETs on an anonymous chinese wood carving forum.
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>>55916598
If you can't install Linux at all on them, chip manufacturers would lose significantly more than 10% of their market share

Linux runs on every single TOP500 supercomputer (except for three that still run Unix), and the majority of servers that make up the core infrastructure of tech giants such as Google, Facebook, Apple etc.

Good luck removing all that market share from your new processor purchases. I'm sure it will only tickle a little.
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>>55916791
>Plenty of distros now are normie friendly.

You overestimate normies. Seriously.
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>>55916737
Ubuntu MATE, Linux Mint and Ubuntu+Cinnamon are all very normie friendly

I know a bunch of normies who use one of those three, some after I showed it to them
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>>55916892
You overestimate normies if you think they need any more than a browser, a mail client and an office clone

Give them that + a DE that vaguely represents a task bar / start menu and they're set, in my experience.
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>>55916564
Patriotism is a simple trade of "you protect me, i give back."

Religion, and your stupid political ideology, unlike patriotism, add a bunch of moral and ethical laws and try to engineer individuals and society as an excuse to feed into vanity and narcissism. A stirring of the pot to put more control onto people.
Perfect example of Horseshoe Theory: Feminism. Shares the anti-sex puritanism with conservative christian soccer mommies and muslims, and uses the same religious tropes to thought police others (replace sexism/misogyny with heresy/blasphemy/kafir, and use moral and ethical twisting to the absolute to act as if some invisible power gives you right to everything and anything).

>also funny how often ex commies think they understand the world
Translation
>also funny how ex commies have experienced the political/ideological equivalent of religious fundamentalism and the twisting of morals and ethics that comes with them

You sound like a retarded Globalist.
There is nothing more ignorant than a Globalist, because a Globalists acts as if humanity is a hivemind, and not a species driven by individualism, variability, and self-interests that arises from this.
And thank fuck for such a species. If it were idiots like you ruling the world, shit like Verizon and AT&T would be all over the world and not merely contained to that country there.
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>>55914975
Pretty sure I have it on my Asus P9D-I. I have IPMI at least.
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>>55916864
Well alright, if this utopian society would ever exist, I guess there would be some merit to patriotism. Still not a whole lot imho, I think pride in your family is already pushing it, but more than religion.
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No one gives a shit about Windows 10 or people that use it. Also, this is quite literally impossible to achieve. Unless you have ISPs monitoring all traffic of everyone. Even then, if you're encrypting your traffic, all the ISP is going to see is an encrypted stream of data. The government would essentially have to ban encryption and force ISPs to monitor all traffic for pirated content. The internet would fucking collapse if they even tried to do this.
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>>55914755
>at the OS level
>expecting me to update
and I'm sitting here on my Core2 Duo with Windows XP not giving a shit.
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>>55916892
Mate my mom uses mint. She doesn't know what a usb port is.
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>>55916916
>You overestimate normies if you think they need any more than a browser, a mail client and an office clone

True, most just visit youtube, some news sites and their mail as I have also witnessed after installing Ubuntu on some of their PCs.

However none of it is as "pretty" and "approachable" as it is on windows. Take "an office clone" for example, can you with straight face claim that there is an office replacement on Linux that is just as good, "pretty" and accessible as the one on windows?

But yeah, if people actually put more effort into making Linux more normie friendly it could become a real competition to Windows. When will that happen? That remains to be seen.
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>>55916939
There's so much nonsensical garbage in this post it's too much to dissect. Truly the ramblings of a probably alcoholic madman.
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Has /g/ become /pol/ or does /pol/ suck at containment?
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>>55916952
>Well alright, if this utopian society would ever exist, I guess there would be some merit to patriotism.

Utopia is a flexible term. For most people, as long as they get to eat, have a house, have a job, don't get killed in some bullshit war and have some leisure time for themselves, it's already "utopia".

But yeah, if such a society/community/civilization were to exist it's citizens would have reasons to be proud of what they've achieved.

Unfortunately I agree that the world is shit and today you are best off being out for yourself. Perhaps that will change one day, perhaps it will get worse.

I am glad you didn't go full retard aggro shitposting though, kinda hard to have a decent conversation on /g/ these days with all the shills and retards. Cheers.
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>>55916941
>server mainboard
yeah no shit
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>>55916986
>can you with straight face claim that there is an office replacement on Linux that is just as good, "pretty" and accessible as the one on windows?

Yes actually. Not sure when you last used libreoffice but it does all the normie things just fine. Pretty is subjective I guess but I honestly dont see anything wrong with it.
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>>55916941
>>55917119
also, IPMI != intel management engine. If I had to guess, it's probably Asus that added the IPMI support, not intel
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>>55916986
>However none of it is as "pretty" and "approachable" as it is on windows. Take "an office clone" for example, can you with straight face claim that there is an office replacement on Linux that is just as good, "pretty" and accessible as the one on windows?
I don't know, I haven't used an office program in the past 5 years or so.

Most people seem to be doing fine with LibreOffice, though
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>>55917131
The powerpoint clone sucks balls though. I mean, even just basic things like reordering slides is so unintuitive. Instead of just having a bar down the left like stock powerpoint they have this weird modal system where you need to go to a different tab to reorder or select different slides, then go back to the other tab to edit it..
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>>55917065
Likewise mate, have a good one.
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>>55917176
Aah could be, I have to admit I never use the Powerpoint clone.
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>>55915179
She just hates her country
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>>55916876
those computers don't run consumer chips they run server chips

locking down consumer chips would do nothing to sales
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>>55917021
It's pretty damn clear if you have reading comprehension, or aren't blinded by butthurt.
There is no such thing as a perfect government, nor a perfect governing system, nor a perfect ideology; but there is one thing in common among all long-standing entities in history: They protected their own people above all else like a parent does their children, and were destroyed when they stopped protecting them.
There is no "God works in mysterious ways" like with religionfags when it fucks up.
There is no "Equaity/Inequality works in mysterious ways" like when ideologyfags fuck up.
Because there is no made up social rules about morality and ethics to obfuscate it.
There is simply the good old "you protect me i protect you, you harm me i harm you".
The basics of the basics.
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>>55917298
>those computers don't run consumer chips they run server chips
The vast majority of TOP500 supercomputers run on stock Intel x86_64 hardware
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inb4 blocking illegal downloads at hardware level
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>>55917021
>Hippie talking about nonsensical thinking and inebriation
Kek, i've seen it all now.
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>>55915179
Americans absolutely cannot fathom that some people aren't chauvinist idiots who worship muh flag & muh country.
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>>55916020
Underpayed pajeet detected.
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>>55915284
>some rose-tinted stargazer who thinks things are fine as they are

But that exactly is Merkel, mein Freund. :^)
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>>55917511
Where in my post did I mention Merkel?
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>>55914755
If MS were insane enough to actually do this, how much market share would they actually lose? I'd like to think this would be a clearly suicidal move, but Windows kinda has everyone by the balls.
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>>55914893
AMD master race wins again.

More seriously, was UEFI a mistake?
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>>55916649
tfw I want nuclear armageddon now
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>>55916649
It hurts to read this and know it's gonna happen.

How do I stop this?
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>>55917314
Your definition of patriotism (we protect eachother) is just that, your definition. That is not how it's understood by the rest of the world, or indeed the dictionary. You're arguing a point I never made, all the while rambling about feminism, butthurt and political correctness, like I would expect an alcoholic madman to do. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

>>55917360
>not a flag waver therefor a hippie
Good one marine, hoo rah!
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>>55917413
Given how Germany as it is now wouldn't even exist without constant American delivers of money, resources, and nutrients from American sperm donations for you to eat; they don't have to fathom anything.
You will end up in the same way you treat your country and flag.
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>>55915944
>(((Swiss)))
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>>55915003
Can you not read?
>It is unenforceable
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>>55916649
Shit
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>>55917820
>That is not how it's understood by the rest of the world
The rest of the world. You mean the majority of the world which thrives on patriotism and is now expanding in both population and significance? Every country where the majority recognizes patriotism is a relevant country, while every country operating based on your mantra is an irrelevant country or a country that's visibly reducing in power and significance. Logical, since a country which isn't loved can't be a country.

Religion and ideology are beliefs for the sake of belief, they are eternal and based on invisible forces and theories.
Patriotism is the willingness to organize for the sake of competition. There are no excuses in it, nor invisible forces or theories.
The definition of patriotism is that it is not a belief for the sake of belief, nor is it based on something invisible. It is a mutual trust between two entities that actually exist. One believes in their country until the country fucks up.

As far as you go anon, your thoughts on patriotism are as insignificant as the percentage of people like you. A percentage decreasing in population, while patriotic cultures to the East and South, and even West over the ocean, are there only to pick their teeth with you treating you like a tooth pick. Though it has to be said, even in your own country, patriots are increasing while idiots such as yourself are shunned as lazy self-serving brats, which is what you are considering your mentality.
Turns out that people like being organized and being defended by an organization. Imagine that! Human nature at work, and nothing you can do about it!
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>>55918230
Turns out people like being controlled like sheep because they are uneducated and simply dont know any better. Yep that that sure makes it rational.

As far as your ideas of power and significance go, all I can do is laugh.

Bottoms up Piotr.
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>>55918535
>Turns out people like being controlled like sheep because they are uneducated and simply don't know any better.
If you were educated and knew better, your country would be accomplished on its own through you instead of being an insignificant protectorate completely reliant on an outsider.
A country can't conquer others if all it herds are sheep. A culture can't dominate others if it acts like a sheep.
You are calling it herding sheep because you identify with sheep, because you are aware of your own stupidity and lack of drive and willpower.

>As far as your ideas of power and significance go, all I can do is laugh.
You have no argument against the reality of the political division in the present world which can be glanced with a simple look at a world map and population and economic papers, so you laugh to make yourself feel better. Can't say i'm surprised.
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>>55916250
hurrrrrr
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>>55917821
>literally Europe's biggest economy
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>>55916649
This sounds great though, why are you spergs freaking out?
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>>55918851
>literally all created and funded by American money and herder by American businessmen, military, and government
What, you dropped out of school before they taught about the Cold War sonny?
No nation on this planet got as much money thrown at it by USA as Germany. Not even Israel.
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>>55918230
>the majority of the world which thrives on patriotism
Um, what? You mean the very same "patriotism" which means presenting your boypussy to globalist leaders and banks???
The actual "patriotist" leaders are failing, hardcore. See: majority of nations in Africa who are too far up their own ass to see the future.
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>>55918535
Yup. People prefer appliances that does X.
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>>55918896
Googled it, gg
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>>55915179
funny thing is that merkel stands to attention like a nazi during the eu anthem...
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>>55915268
>what are you, Belgian?
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>>55915393
that meme is top kek
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>>55916375
get your water filters here...
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>>55918937
>You mean the very same "patriotism" which means presenting your boypussy to globalist leaders and banks?
>UN/EU, the globalist organizations that give themselves Nobel Peace Prizes for not being able to do anything except speak sweet words, while every other nations just laughs at them and do their own shit
>China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, USA, Russia, India, Israel, and many others
>giving a single fuck about globalists
>not incarcerating and making bankers spontaneously and mysteriously vanish if they don't like them
KEK

International "watchdogs" who can bark but can't bite and do as their name implies, only watch and can't do shit, and a bunch of vault dwellers.
What "powers" you speak of. The boypussy presented is the asshole, and the purpose is to fart in the presented direction.
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>>55916385
>Socialist Detected
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>>55918890
(You)
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>>55916531
>Michelle Obama's "first time I've ever been proud of my country"
why was she commenting about trump?
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>>55916709
>good goy keep watching cnn and vote trump
does this person even live on planet earth?
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>>55918687
Haha which country do you think I'm from? 'My' country is doing just fine economically, poverty doesn't exist here, neither does hunger. Id say that's largely in part because we're not a bunch of patriotic yes men, but instead acknowledge that power can and always will be abused. But hey, I guess our fortune wont last very long with all those big bad patriotic significant countries coming for us? You're a joke m8.
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>>55917023
>Has /g/ become /pol/ or does /pol/ suck at containment?
complains about /pol/ then posts nazi anime desktop...
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>>55916020
>Fucking pirates need to pay.
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>>55914841
>sign of post-nation era
It would be if Germany won WW2. But they didn't, so speak English you commie faggot

>>55916983
>core 2
>2006
Intel will just use their hardware backdoors to update it for you
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>>55919130
This looks like my cat before he died.
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>>55919176
>poverty doesn't exist here, neither does hunger
>populated by people who hate their flag and won't defend it
Great! You better get ready for human nature then, because the train is coming.
I have a bunch of Turkish friends who will be eager to replace that flag with one that will be loved.
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>>55919233
>I have a bunch of Turkish friends who will be eager to replace that flag with one that will be loved.
go back to sleep cenk
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>>55919209
>Intel will just use their hardware backdoors to update it for you
Fuck that, I've got replacement parts galore to pick from, and I've got infinite installs of XP and 8.1 to put on these things.

I'd say I'm pretty set, and in the case that Intel does do one of the shittiest things that in my opinion they possibly can do, I'll break out my good old Slot A Athlon 800MHz and continue to use it into the ground.
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>>55919265
Predators don't sleep, they are rearing your women.
Not that you yourself have any to be reared anon, you are doing good by my standards and not spreading your worthless genes.
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>>55914755
>Germany
Yea but the civilised world isn't generally as cucked as germans

What happened to you guys? You used to be cool and didn't take any shit. Now you have an insane bitch destroying your country by inviting millions of sandniggers and more censorship than any other european country
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>>55919233
You mean a handful of low iq 3rd generation highschooler Turks? Yeah ok, real scared of them bud.

Also, hate their flag? That would be just as retarded as loving it. You really don't get it do you?
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What the fuck happened to this thread? gb2/pol/
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>>55919295
What the fuck am I reading.
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>>55914755
but-but... where am I gonna download stuff i can not buy anymore?
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>>55919402
WinBoards library has a bunch of abandonware / vaporware...

Horrible staff though, stick to /g/, the admins at WinBoards are pretty autistic.

Even /b/ has more meaningful conversations and overall sensibility than WinBoards.
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>>55919355
>and more censorship than any other european country
because you're no longer counting UK as part of europe? :^)
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>>55914755
Blocking torrents at os level is fucking retarded, they should block them at ISP level
>>
Well they can suck me off at the crotch level.
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>>55919943
Pff, they should block them at hardware level. Fucking pirates stealing from those poor content creators make me sick. Why cant they just sue western digital and samsung for even allowing that filth to be stored?
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>>55914755
>Downloads Linux distribution
>Gets put on watch-list
I can see it now.
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>>55920176
They should block them at human level
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>>55920188
It's already worse than that.

>read linux news site
>labeled an extremist and put on watchlist

Haven't you been paying attention to based Snowden?
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>>55920311
They should block content creators from creating content that could possibly be pirated. That'll teach that scum.
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>>55916737
It's not about normie friendly, it's about being marketed towards them

I was told OSX is the easiest to use but when I used it for the first time I had trouble to use things. After the initial annoyance it was smokth sailing but the itunes-only and weird download authority weirded me out.

Ubuntu is technically easier to use than OSX but it's not marketed towards normies.

The part I like is that you can have normie-esque distros and distros that people already use for day-to-day stuff and work.
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I like this thread. "liberals" and fags getting legitimately BTFO'd.
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>>55920405
10/10
>>
Give me the rights to your license, I'll make sure nobody pirates your property. :)
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>>55914755
> The terms of use of Windows 10 as already included a clause that provides for the possibility to prevent the execution of illegally copied games.

lol microsoft already sues people for pirated windows copies
>>
>>55915268
Nationalism is a 19th century middle class meme that unfortunately became normie.
>>
next step will be making illegal any OS who don't block
>>
I actually might consider getting a Linux distro which one would you guys recommend (I'm a tech illiterate by the way)
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>>55919394
Politics is in everything. Now just because someone posts something you don't agree with doesn't mean they're from /pol/, newfag.
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>>55921722
Just get ubuntu, or a flavour like ubuntu mate or xubuntu.
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>>55914755
You know you can use linux as OS too.
So the problem is still unsolved.
>>
>>55914755
>linux desktop
you already won, I wont bother with w10
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>>55921722
http://distrowatch.com/
Pick your poison desu senpai
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>>55922160
What's the difference between Ubuntu and xubuntu? (sorry)
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>>55922176
Thank you kohai
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>>55914755
golem.de

(((copyright lobby)))
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>>55915179
JEWS
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>>55922180
only what it looks like
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>>55920311
they should block the problem at the creator level
there problem solved
final solution to the "piracy" problem
just block them from being able to produce any more of their filth
then we won't have to hear them whine about all the shekels they are losing due to "muh piracy" (FAIR USE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YZws9xYEQ
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>>55915179
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>>55922611
oops forgot pic
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>>55916570

highly underrated
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>>55915393
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>>55914783
Why are Germans the only ones who do this shit
Is it autism?
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>>55916336
Well the last time germans were patriotic 6 million innocent jews died so...
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>>55916649
You could have prevented this, anons
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>>55914783
daily reminder that national pride is nonsensical and we are all brothers through our short lives in this fleeting world.
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>>55925580
Careful, thinking like that automatically makes you a cuckold.
The only way we're getting there is by some outside force attacking the entire planet. Even then, we would revert immediately.
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>>55925661
take your 21 year old insecurities back to /pol/. belief in human equality and realization of our insignificance has nothing to do with how you conduct yourself around women or your family.
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>>55914841
>post-nation era
yes/no/maybe
https://bitnation.co/
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>>55914898
>what is failure of components?
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>>55916367
>When the country does well then the people living and working there benefit.
baka.jpg
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>>55916419
Socialism??...Socialism...
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>>55916322
Fuck you, state worshipper.

I'm my own nation.
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>>55915238
> fanatic nationalism
> wave a single flag

Yes my arabic friend, she should have had a Syrian flag in her hand!!!111

I do agree!
PRAISE ALLAH!
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>>55926055
fag nation maybe lmao
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>>55914755
>block illegal downloads at the OS level
Would that also include all the malware?
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>>55915200
That pasta is so stale you can actually use it as a weapon.
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they'll do all kinds of shit to fuck people instead of creating a GDP-adjusted or even personal income adjusted easy payment method for content

what's literally nothing for a norwegian professional is crazy money for a student or a romanian professional, forget about a starving romanian student
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>>55927525
>personal income adjusted easy payment method for content

People find this idea absurd but it's actually the best solution to this. Netflix did it in Brazil and got millions of subscribers in a few months (our politicians and cable TV providers are working on imposing lots of taxes and regulations on it though, of course)
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Install Debian.
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>>55927539
it exists in many countries in some form, there are huge student discounts for software and some books in many countries

they just need to take it one step further and make it universal for all content
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>>55914807
>Sweden

Of course. Why would this be happening anywhere else but Sweden?

The fuck is wrong with that country?
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>>55914945
>what are direct downloads on the distro websites
>what is people making copies and handing them in the real world
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>>55914783
Can't blame her desu. The nu-german tricolor aka The Cuck Flag is pretty ugly design wise.
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>>55923813
>HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO EXPLAIN SPURDO TO A BALDING, PUDGY MID 50S MAN FROM SAN DIEGO, WHO JUST WANTS TO KNOW WHETHER TIS INDICATES TURKISH CITIZENS ARE LOSING SATISFACTION WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP
>WHO JUST WANTS TO KNOW WHETHER TIS INDICATES TURKISH CITIZENS ARE LOSING SATISFACTION WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP
Holy shit. This guy predicted the staged coup attempt
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>>55927525
I'd gladly pay the $10 a month for netflix if they had the same amount of content as most public trackers and allowed me to download the files to watch later
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>>55915497
And once it does every single person that pirates content will find some live CD distro and get their stuff from there.

Slowly more and more people that use windows just for the basics may switch over.

M$ would shoot itself in the foot by trying to stop pirates.
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>>55914975
this might be anecdotal but my laptop will not function properly without that pos IMEI. neither windows nor linux
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>>55916649
How far into the future will we have an internet infrastructure that is SO good that it will allow you to transfer the amount of data a fucking GPU can render?

Please tell me when the internet can support ~200-300GB/s speeds and extremely low MS so your input is not delayed.

Fucking retards writing bait like this and then faggotrons swallowing it so hard they're deepthroating the pole.
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>>55924505
it is done in sweden as well :(
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>>55927743
Microsoft doesn't even put that much effort into stopping piracy of its own products.
There's a problem in microsoft in leadership, the right and left hands and the middle and back and south eastern hands all have no idea what the other is doing.
One CEO reads spooky stories about piracy and doesn't realise that without piracy less people would use windows and this would threaten their monopoly and break Bill's model of dominance, making people learn how to use operating systems other than windows.
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>>55916176
Louis please go.
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>>55927715
OH VEY SHUT IT DOWN!
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>>55915393
#NeverTrump here because Trump is a psychopath

look it up, he has all the signs
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>>55927570
>Install Debian.
/thread
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>>55928105
>I have all the signs
>I am Trump
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>>55928126
don't confuse psychopathy with Asperger's
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>>55925761
>equality
>making any sense whatsoever
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>>55914783
>it's a Tyrone's simple brain can't into other languages episode
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>>55925228
Good goy
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>>55915284
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