/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>55911201
Pretty swole for a kernel programmer that doesn't lift tbqh.

>>55911349
That's just fat then

Debian vs Fedora vs Arch, which should I use?
And I don't mean based on pros and cons here, I want biased meme opinions.

>>55911373
install gentoo

>>55911372
He's doughy, but decent quads and calves, and wide shouldered frame. Again, just surprising since you know he probably doesn't exercise. That's just the Mongolian genes, though.

>>55911401
he actually does exercise a bit. he also has a walking desk.
>>55911373
>biased meme opinions
install gentoo
>actual personal preference
debian sid

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>>55911206

manjaro
installed gnome disks, udiskie, gvfs and it still cant fucking see the pendrive, when i do dmesg -w it sees that im connecting something on the port

>>55911699
>pendrive
What's that?

>>55911808
usb flash storage

>>55911808
zip disquette

>>55911830
>flash
http://occupyflash.org/

>>55911373
Arch because Fedora is bloated and Debian has a shitty package manager.

>>55911856
>t. Archfag who doesn't realize that Arch is bloated like hell and pacman a cripple

>>55911856
>arch because debian has a shitty package manager
dude, pacman is way worse than aptitude.

>>55911848
flash memory you fucking retard

>>55911869
>dude, pacman is way worse than aptitude.
truer words never spoken

>>55911919
i think he was making a joke

>>55911856
At least aptitude supports partial upgrades.
Pacman has that option, but the wiki tells you "don't use that option, it'll break your system".

>>55911699
You need to set your clock back to make it work.

R.I.P. This Thread

/g/ needs /b/'s satire disclaimer

>>55911998
If you've read the wiki, you know why partial upgrades aren't supported by arch.

>>55912036
>pacman is shit, but jokes on you: it's a feature

Can somebody post that big infographic on mount points? I neeed it.

>>55912036
Because the developers were too lazy and incompetent to make it possible?

>>55911699
Install usbmount

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>>55912439
Only got one of mount everest. It just werks.

>>55911998
>partial upgrades.
You mean system breakage?

>>55911349
he did his military service

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>>55912439

>>55912511
>Only 282 people have died on Mt Everest
I thought the number was higher desu.

>>55912541
Thanks mate.

>>55912514
Weird. I never broke my system on Debian using a mix of Testing and Unstable, with a few packages created manually from source for good measure.

>>55912590
My new laptop doesn't even boot debisn stable

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Are there any text editors that have basic color text, underline, bold, etc. but also has syntax highlighting for when I want to edit json files or write simple scripts in Lua?

I'm currently using Geany and it's decent, but it sucks that I can't make bullet point lists, underline headers, etc. when doing basic note taking or something.

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Why does my Firefox do this when I download things?

>>55912647

Because Firefox is a piece of shit.

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I have an unusual Linux support request for you fine folk. A Google search did not help at all.

I have a B&N Nook Classic (pic related; unrooted)[0]. I have read that it runs version 1.5 of Android.[1]

I bought the device in the States, but have moved to Pajeetland. It does not seem to have support for my current timezone (Indian Standard Time - GMT+0530). For the onscreen clock, I have chosen GMT+0500.

My OCD has compelled me to make this post. How do I add support for my timezone?

[0] http://nook.barnesandnoble.com/u/Getting-Started-NOOK-1st-Edition/379003192?cds2Pid=47982

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_%26_Noble_Nook_1st_Edition

>>55912647
Your firefox is broken

>>55912698
It didn't do this on Windows though. I've only been on Linux for a good week.

>>55912719
Well, how do I fix it?

>>55912737
Delete and Compile firerox

> installed Arch
> installed a window manager
> set it up just how I like it
> installed all necessary programs and packets I need for work
> everything works

Anything else I need to do or do I just enjoy the ride from here on out?

>>55912737
>>55912767 Sorry, I thought I was in another thread.

Update your system and reinstall firefox

>>55912776
Subscribe to several different Arch mailing lists and read them all before every single update every single day.

>>55912776
Enable ufw

>>55912767
>>55912779
Oh that seems to have actually worked.
I just;

sudo pacman -Rns firefox, sudo pacman -Syu, sudo pacman -S firefox

And that fixed it in no time at all.
I didn't think it'd be that simple and quick. I'm new to Linux so that's pretty cool to me. Thanks.

Why is Thunar so shitty and unstable?

The problem of Thunar completely crashing on file rename/delete sometimes has been unresolved for more than a year now.

>>55912890
next time:
#pacman -Syyu firefox

>>55912890
>,
>>55912920
>#

>>55912920
Based pacman. I wish apt had such a simple argument to update system and install a package

>>55912933
# means you have root privilege, $ means you don't

>>55912933
let them, they're archkids

>>55912948
>using vanilla PS1
>logging in as root to update your system

>>55912948
Logging in as root is very bad practice, I always die a little inside when I see a # on a users linux system.

>>55912934
Is has, read the manpage.

>>55912952
Wow you are such a massive fucking retard now I know why newbabbies are so salty about arch

>>55912973
It's the best practice that you need root privilege to install a package or update the system

>>55912981
Does it really? Nice.
So what's the equivalent of #pacman -Syyu firefox?
1. It updates the sources
2. It updates the system to the latest
3. It installs the latest firefox

>>55912984
> It's the best practice that you need root privilege to install a package or update the system

Oh, that's definitely the case. I don't want to imagine the horror if users had the power to do that. However, being constantly logged in as root is terrible practice on any level (which is why sudo is a godsend).

>>55912993
alias "pacman -Syyu"="apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install"

>>55912952
Your existence in /g/ is a shame. Either you are absolutely newfag and started shitposting this week or you are baiting

>>55912811
>>55912819

Already have ufw enabled, but I'll definitely check out those mailing lists. Many thanks.
Anything I need to definitely avoid doing?

>>55913041
Alias allows you to have spaces? Didn't know that. Did you test that yourself?

>>55913047
Definitely avoid the AUR if you don't know what you're doing.

Unless running untested code from god knows whom without any security checks on your system is your idea of fun.

>>55913054
Just tested, no it doesn't. Disregard.

>>55912617
Probably because it needs drivers that are only in newer versions of linux.

I just set up my GPU pass-through VM for gayming.

Any idea of how I can pass certain USB ports instead of devices? I don't want to use two keyboards and mouse in one pc.

>>55912918
It's an annoying memory problem that I guess nobody can be arsed tracking down. I'd just use something else rather than waiting for an official fix.

Looks like the problem that kept me from fully utilizing Linux has cropped up again. I'm on Mint and got that problem where it looks like my partitions don't mount correctly. It's the one where you get the option to wait, skip, or repair manually.
I noticed on other sites they ask you to go and make the repairs through Fstab, but it doesn't seem to be receiving input from my keyboard.

Would it be possible to just repair GRUB itself, or the partition table through a liveISO?

>>55913233
>Mint
What is wrong with you?

For Windows games, what would you recommend: virtual machine, Wine or dual boot?

>>55913253
The only correct place for Windows is in a VM.

How old are debian stable packages? Months, years? Are they good enough for a desktop?

>>55913233
>Mint
found your problem

>>55913253
For newer games: dual boot
For older games: Wine
Virtual machine sucks for games.

>>55913278
>Virtual machine sucks for games
Found the guy who didn't setup GPU passthrough

>>55913253
>Windows games
Theres a whole board for you >>>/v/ goodbye.

>>55913041
>dist-upgrade

Is there any reason to NOT use ext2 for a USB drive's filesystem?
Maybe a dumb question, but are there security risks etc?

>>55913274
Right now, about 1 month old.
There's a new release about every other year, so by the time the next version is out, the current version's packages are about 2 years old.
You can run Stable on your desktop if you're content with the features right now, and want nothing to change or to break. For everyone else, there's Testing/Unstable. Or Ubuntu.

>>55913258
>>55913278
Conflicting answers...

My indecision is due to the following:
Dual boot: annoying to switch systems every time I want to play, and DESU I'd rather give Windows no direct access to my machine.
Wine: often it does not work.
VM: resource-heavy, my computer isn't really new...

>>55913298
The actual question regards systems, not the games themselves. If you want, you can see it as
>For Windows software I have no equivalent in Linux for, what would you recommend?

>>55913338
>>For Windows software I have no equivalent in Linux for, what would you recommend?
VM

>>55913338
>Wine: often it does not work.
Sometimes wine needs extra stuff.
Learn to use winetricks or install PlayOnLinux, both automate installing requirements.

>>55913367
Thanks, I'll check both.

>>55913322
Why not just use ext4 and turn off journaling?

>>55913338
the answer depends on the software you run.
Wine should always be your first attempt. Use Playonlinux to make it work a bit better. If that doesn't work, a VM is your next best option. But not for newish games. Those suck in a VM and work even less often than in Wine.

>>55913382
Oh, I didn't realize that was possible, not sure how straightforward it is to do on a USB drive..

>>55911401
His ancestors were beasts mounted on horses. You can easily imagine Torvalds on horseback, killing scores of opponents with bow and arrow and finishing off the rest with deft swishes of the sword and ending the day by eviscerating top cuck microsofts with a dagger.

>>55913334
That's not that bad at all.
I'm gonna go with stable for now and once I'm comfortable with it might go for testing. Thanks

>>55913466
>His ancestors were beasts mounted on horses.
>fingoll meme
He's from the Swedish-speaking minority though.

>>55912993
Sudo aptitude
Press u
Press g two times
For updating and upgrading everything.

For reinstalling a package you can just sudo aptitude reinstall <package>

Hi, so I balls deeped clean installed ubuntu a not long back, enjoying the experience. it's refreshing. Planning on moving on to Debian, just messed up and now can't boot - rather not do a fresh install - Would i be able to receive some of your wisdom?

>>55913506
You can't go from Ubuntu to Debian without a fresh install. It's a different OS.

>>55913506
This might be helpful:
http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/

Fairly new to desktop Linux - running Fedora + GNOME. Is there any "must have" applications that I should get?

>>55913613
>Is there any "must have" applications that I should get?
yeah boi
*unzips*

>>55913546
Thank you very much, this seems like it will help.

>>55913545
no no, it was my plan for a future endevour.

Problem was I sudo apt-update/upgraded and I believe it updated the kernal which to my dismay caused my brightness controls to stop working again.

after finding a fix i applied upon reboot I came to this error - :

'The system is running in low-graphics mode your screen , grahics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly , you will need to config these yourself.'

None of the options will allow me to change anything nor start, it just hangs on a blank screen with flashing cursor.

On another note I hated unity ended up on gnome flashback metacity - much more comfy.

>>55913635
looks like unzip came with the default installation.

>>55913277
>>55913245

I don't understand the problem since I've read it's babby steps from Windows.

I would like to know how something "stable" can break itself.

>>55913706
mint isn't stable

>>55913613
Steam Locomotive

>>55913768
That gave me a chuckle, Anon - thank you.

Guys I just installed Lubuntu and am setting it up from scratch just the way I like it, I actually came here to post a different question but read the documentation and found out how to fix myself.
am I 1337 yet?

also, what the fuck can i do about this
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321778
I have to press ctrl alt f1 then ctrl alt f7 every time I resume from suspend, how can I get this working normally?
Am on Lubuntu 16.04 with a T430 no nvidia

Xfce has magically disappeared from my session manager on login.

Any ideas on how to get it back?

>>55911201
damn he's thicc

>>55913849
Have you tried the workaround with this ppa?
https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers

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Instead of runnikg Kali Linux as my main os, i should install .....? And get the tools there instead

>>55913939
Are you a pentester?
Then by all means, install Kali for pentesting.

Otherwise, install a desktop-oriented distro for desktop use.

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>>55913958
Will be studying digital forensics. And will buy a thinkpad for the sole purpose of testing and such.

I heard a lot of shit about Kali as main OS.

>>55913939
Kali is good enough, but it needs to be tweaked a little for average desktop use. Means, set up a user account and sudo - wait, just read this: http://docs.kali.org/introduction/should-i-use-kali-linux

On the other hand, just install any distro and the tools you're interested in, the benefit of Kali is that everything is already set up, you get a patched kernel, and other useful stuff.

Choose your poison.

>>55913976
Cause it isn't a main OS.
It's a suite of tools for pentesting.

>>55913976
>I heard a lot of shit about Kali as main OS.
Because pentest distros usually have only root, disabled network services etc, but they work great as main OS.

>>55913992
But my 800 dollares shitpad will only be a tool in my studies.

When i finish my degree i'll apply at allsafe so i get access to e-corp.

>>55913992
>the os isn't an os, it's a suit
wat

>>55913992
Just because it doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean it woun't work for others, newfriend.

>>55911201
Does the latest distro of ubuntu have java included with the OS installation?

>>55914030
>wat
Not him, but learn how to read.

>Cause it isn't a main OS.
>NOT A MAIN OS
It is an OS for a specific purpose, not for main usage.

>>55914054
main usage of what, running an os? how stupid are you exactly?

>>55914054
So installing os for specific purpose on laptop for specific purpose is ok?

I have the blessing from the nerds?

>>55914074
Don't listen to the hobos. You can browse the web, watch, porn, write code, play games, whatever as on every other distro, just with the benefit of some pentesting tools preinstalled.

hi /g/, can you help me to write a script that mutes my sound after some minutes or direct me to a thread that could help me?

>>55914093
>linux
>play games

>>55914108
Wrong thread, pajeet?

>>55914093
and the risk of running as root and without security updates.

>>55913898
please have mercy on me, I am a noob

what do I do after "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers", then sudo apt-get update?

All that those two commands do is add the PPA, but not install the package, right?
How do I install the package for intel hd graphics?

>>55914044
no

>>55914121
Kali is updated frequently by a dedicated team.

>>55914093
What if I told you that you can install pentesting tools on any other distro, without having to run it as root all the time?

>>55914121
That's why he should set up a user account like on every other distro.
>>55914151
>waaahh root is insecure, the OS is shit

I'm going to try to keep this simple.

I had a Kubuntu 16.04 install on my system when I was using 290X CF. I have upgraded to GTX 1080 SLI, now it no longer boots, all I get is a black screen.

I've tried a live image of Kubuntu and of regular Ubuntu, neither work. I take it GTX 1080 is completely unsupported at this time. Is there anything I can do? I haven't yet tried other distros, but I'd like to keep it Debian-based.

>>55914129
It sounds like you just have to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade afterwards to upgrade your existing drivers with the versions from the ppa.

Why is this thread full of memers? Can't we stay serious?

>>55912708
Bump

>>55914171
If it's completely unsupported, another distro likely won't help. What you need is another kernel (if one supporting it exists already).

>>55914121
The tools are streamlined with the Debian repositories and synchronized four times a day. That means users have the latest package updates and security fixes.

>>55914172
did it, didn't make a difference, thanks though

a small price to pay for a free and working OS that isn't winshit

>>55914074
At least for me: your machine, your problem. I have nothing to do with blessings and shit.

>>55914072
Do you know what the word "main" means? Serious question.

>>55914297
Did it update any packages?
If so, maybe you'll just have to restart X (or your pc) to make the changes stick. Not sure though.
If not, remove the ppa again and wait for an update.

>>55914093
I don't know enough about Kali OS, but I assume those pentest tools come preinstalled to the expense of some "main" tools.

If this is false, nevermind.
If this is true, I'd say having another OS alongside it MIGHT be useful. As a convenience.

Anyway. As I said, "your machine, your problem". If it works, nice.

(I was just trying to explain stuff for >>55914030... the guy looks quite dumb to be honest)

>>55914372
>>55914372
>restart X

that did it, thanks so much anon

I really mean it, you have no idea how quickly that got old. The forums didn't point to an answer either so I wouldn't have known what to do

thanks fellow african

>>55914203
Yeah I know, which is why I haven't really bothered to try any. I mostly used Linux on headless servers so I don't know much about X/graphics drivers, would it technically be possible to install a distro using my iGPU and then install NVIDIA's proprietary drivers to enable the 1080s?

>>55914630
yes, but sli 1080 would probably still be a problem.

>>55914649
I don't care about SLI working in Linux, all I want is a smooth multi-monitor desktop experience. As far as 3D APIs go, if mpv runs well and the DE itself doesn't tear or stutter I'll be perfectly happy.

If I'd have to physically remove the 2nd card or even just the bridge in order to get Linux to run, that would be a pretty big PITA.

>>55914598
You're welcome.

>>55914696
>As far as 3D APIs go, if mpv runs well and the DE itself doesn't tear or stutter I'll be perfectly happy.
which CPU do you have? this would already work just fine with only the intel igpu on HD5000+, you can blacklist your nvidias and cut down on energy usage.

>>55914722
A 4790K, but since I want to use the 1080s in Windows, I'd have to keep reconnecting my monitors to use the iGPU in Linux. That would be a PITA too.

>>55914756
doesn't your monitor have 2 inputs?

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PlayOnLinux is giving me some hard time. Any idea on what's causing this crash?

>>55914935
Your lack of ignoring the message.

>>55914774
I have 3 monitors, one of them is 4K. I'm not even sure the iGPU supports 4K @ 60Hz, although I think it should over DP.

Now that I think about it though, I only have 1 DP output, which I also need for a 2560x1440 screen because contrary to what I expected the DVI-D DL port doesn't actually support that resolution, so there's no way for me to run all my monitors at native res from the iGPU alone.

>>55914988
There's an "if" statement there, and the program did not run at all.

Anyway, no big deal. If worst hypothesis it doesn't run, I guess I'll dual boot.

>>55914988
Either help or fuck off faggot.

Upgrading from Ubuntu 15 to 16, going to install i3wm. Anything different setup wise?

>>55911373
Debian is bloated, ancient horseshit with a shitty package manager and only used by autists.

Arch makes you cool but is completely unstable and only used by autists who make Debian autists look like chad.

Fedora is the greatest. Red Hat is awesome and it's on the bleeding edge mhile maintaining stability. Ignore butthurt anti-redhat shills.

So. I'm trying to install Civilization IV Complete on PlayOnLinux; I have the required .isos.

The installation process goes fine at first, but then the installer gets the Beyond the Sword patch from the internet (even if it's unneeded, one of the DVDs already contain it). Then it freezes, locks all input from X.org and I need to go to a tty to kill the process, even if it's sitting idle (i.e. no CPU-related freezing).

How should I proceed? Give up and just go dual boot, or is there something I'm missing?

>>55915564
>another user enlightened by euphoria
*tips fedora*

(What's so bad about APT?)

who /mine/ here :^)

>>55915564
Red hat shill pls go

>>55915564
hope you aren't shilling4free

>>55911349
>>55911372
bear mode Linus would probably rip your arms off before you could even compile a response.

>>55912708
Final bump until thread reaches limit. Please /g/, I could really use some assistance here.

So what does Kali linux bring to the table that I can't do on say Arch or any other random distro with installing the right packages?

>>55914132
fuk

>>55916166
A shitty logo and a community that is made up of 12-16 year old skiddies.
The ones that actually use kali as a pentester do not take part in the community.

>>55912036
>Archfags defense or reponse to everything is always "read the wiki"

I'm embarrassed to be an Archfag myself. Should I switch to something else to disassociate myself with these faggots?

>>55916278
So not much? Ive read it has all the aircrack drivers already on it (which isnt a problem for my laptop anyways), anything else like that or is it just aircrack and a few other programs packed into a distro?

>>55916284
I have this problem with a lot of distros. Ubuntu and mint are the "im new to linux" image, arch has its shit community, fedora is called fedora..

>>55916344
There's always Void or Gentoo/Funtoo I guess.

>>55916358
>Void
never knew that existed, will look into it.
also not falling for the gentoo meme

>>55916368
>gentoo
>meme
Endless summmer in here.

So I'm gonna replace Windows 10 with Debian 8 in a bit. I got a netinstall image. Anything I should know before hand about the process or is it pretty self explanatory?

>>55916398
install gentoo :^)

>>55916368
Let me know what you think. If you try it I might try it, too.

>>55916425
Isn't Funtoo a better Gentoo? The dude who made Funtoo also made Gentoo.

>>55916425

Nice meme post, but we are serious and friendly here, if you don't mind, gently fuck off.

>>55916401
It is rather self explanatory, but if you are unsure during the installation, the installation guide on debian.org is pretty good and you can ask here.
Just make sure that you do not put in a root password and that the first thing after the install is to open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install aptitude && sudo aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges . And then only use aptitude forever instead of apt-get.
And you will probably need the deb-multimedia repo sometime in the future.
You will need to choose a DE during the installation, the easiest to get into as a new user is probably xfce, but gnome is fine too.
Have fun.

>>55916344
>Ubuntu and mint are the "im new to linux" image

Ubuntu is the distribution everyone starts on, and the distribution everyone reverts to when they're done distro-hopping, once they realize that a big company in the background and a huge userbase are great, Debian is a great base to build a distro on, and everything else you might not like about the defaults can be changed.

>>55916464
>source:my ass

>>55916462
>aptitude
Why is everyone installing this shit of bloat? What's wrong with apt? Read the manpages instead of installing retard friendly bloat.

>>55916464
>shilling for corporate shit which is literally destroying the linux community for PR
>shilling for the one and only distro which literally shipped keyloggers and spyware
Consider suicide.

>>55916462
Curious, why not create a root password?

>>55916485
Aptitudes dependecy resolving is better. And if you are not a retard that uses both it keeps you safe.
I am using aptitude on debian sid for a year now without a single issue in aptitude.

>>55916166
>So what does Kali linux bring to the table that I can't do on say Arch or any other random distro with installing the right packages?
Nothing. That's kinda all the point of all distributions - they just distribute packages, after all.

>>55916513
This will configure sudo for you by default. It's just simpler this way.

>>55916510
>>shilling for the one and only distro which literally shipped keyloggers and spyware
wtf, i hate linux now. seriously though what happened? im newish, please share

>>55916525
Mh, apt user for 4 years, went into problems 2 times (my own fault) and solved it two times by manpage reading.

To be honest I installed aptitude once, saw the TUI and wasn't really impessed. What makes aptitude better?

>>55916543
Ah, alright. Thanks. I guess I'll post again in a while, however long it takes for it to finish installing.

>>55911373
Fedora.

>>55916562
https://www.eff.org/de/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html

>Unless you have opted out, we will also send your keystrokes as a search term to productsearch.ubuntu.com and selected third parties so that we may complement your search results with online search results from such third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon. Canonical and these selected third parties will collect your search terms and use them to provide you with search results while using Ubuntu

Stuff is still installed, but since the newest version disabled.

Why is Void Linux so overlooked? On paper it looks fucking amazing. Are people just too attached to Arch?

Just realized I have been using MBR on most of my drives including USB drives, instead of using GPT, reason this came to my attention is because a USB drive fucked up and later I read how GPT *might* have let me save my files.

Is that true or FUD?

>>55916642
What's even the point of Void?

>>55916596
oh what a bunch of fucks then, i guess the profit incentive was too much; maybe that was apart of a pre-move for the cell phone that didnt happen. thanks

>>55916567
As I said, the dependency resolving. With dpkg there are two ways, either you keep a package or you remove a package/packages that has/have dependency problems. In aptitude you either fire up the tui and hit , until it does something that is okay for you (usually keeping back a few packages) or you do that via cli with aptitude.
Apt-get can do it in a similar way (not as easily though) but has worse results.

>>55916664
check the dates before you believe that cunt

they stopped spying nearly 2 years ago. i know it's still not great but at least they respond to angry users.

>>55916658
It's essentially good Arch.

>minimal
>blazing fast
>xbps > pacman
>no systemd, uses runit
>rolling release and bleeding-edge
>good developer
>no stupid "Arch Way" meme bullshit that gets used to justify stupid decisions by the dev team

>>55916694
Sounds good. Will look into it, thanks.

>>55916688
good catch i noticed the fsf site didnt post date or follow up, was just reading the EFF article when I saw your post. so they stopped? thats good. unrelated but im still sour about the no legit phone project anymore, the first one was a failure and the canned the legit one that was to follow.

and account of everyone shit flinging a lil bit im just going to make some live cd's and give a few a try over a couple months time

thanks for the help everyone

>>55916694
How about freedom?

>>55916401
If your only internet connection is wifi, you're gonna have a bad time.

>>55916284
> disassociate
Do you mean 'dissociate', idiot? Learn2English.

>>55916510
>implying I use the spyware lense
>implying I use Unity
>implying Canonical made even one penny off my ass
>implying I don't just cost them money for server upkeep cause I'm too lazy to torrent

>>55916764
>all wifi drivers are nonfree meme
This isn't true, and most non shit computers have ethernet.
Not to forget that there is a nonfree netinstall iso for people with shitty wifi hardware.

>>55916688
>they stopped spying nearly 2 years ago.
lol, what a retard

>>55916794
Remember that you shilled specifically for Ubuntu, not for xubuntu, ubuntu gnome, lubuntu or *buntu

>>55916755
Ubuntu may have done a couple of dick things (and they did apologize) but the distro is by FAR the best desktop Linux, no contest at all.
People are watching them extra closely precisely because they are the most popular Linux. Just try it for a while, there's no real reason to not do so, unless you are a paranoid tinfoiler who can't overlook some mistakes.

Also make sure you use the mainline Ubuntu (unless your machine has less than 4GB RAM). The rest are kinda clunky and I don't like them.

>>55916794
Whatever makes you sleep at night while Canonical and Microsoft are holding hands.

>>55916596
Then what's the fucking problem?
I use Ubuntu cause with that many users, problems are fixed faster than on Meme Distro Of The Week.
The fact that there is spyware somewhere in the repos which I could install and activate doesn't concern me. Cause I won't.

>>55916820
>and they did apologize
[cititation needed]
inb4 none

>>55916757
lol who gives a shit? Go suck Stallman's micropenis.

>>55916694
>good developer
>developer
>singular
there's your reason.

>>55916861
And? He's doing a better job than entire dev teams right now.

>>55916841
The only users who suck cock are users who use proprietary programs, which is an act of sucking the dick of a random developer.

Enjoy your blind faith, cuck.

>>55916795
You're missing the point.
The network-manager is disabled by default in Debian. Have fun finding that out after installation. Sure, you could google how to fix it – if you had internet.

>>55916884
>freedom
>doesn't give me the freedom to get work done because nothing fucking works in "freedom" shitstros

This thread went totally garbage. It's horrible.
Looks like neo /g/ took finally over the last good thread. Fuck this shit I'm out.

>>55916820
>unless you are a paranoid tinfoiler who can't overlook some mistakes.
ad hom./not an argument. as i said am going to try a few different ones for a few weeks each and see what the deal is

>>55916817
Because that's my entire point.
All *ubuntus are Ubuntu. They use the same package manager, repos and release cycle. Those are the only things that set a distro apart from others.
The only difference between the *buntus is default software selection, something that is irrelevant to a competent user.

I just can't fathom people who reinstall their entire system cause they found another distro which has nicer screenshots, or ships with KDE out of the box.

Install a user-friendly, proven distro, learn on it, and make it your own. Maybe strip it down to the basics, subscribe to the devel branch to make it rolling release, whatever tickles your fancy. Nuking a perfectly fine system and hopping to another distro for stuff you could change on the one you have is not the Linux way.

>>55916943
>user-friendly
A user friendly distro doesn't thread you like a retard and hides functionality. I guess you mean retard friendly.

>>55916880
Yeah, but what if he decides to go on a long vacation? No more security updates for you!

>>55916954
Ubuntu doesn't hide functionality.
It gives you the choice to automate it.
It also gives you the choice to install a 300 package base system and build it up manually.

>>55916970
Basically, the same problem Mint has.
This is why I stay clear of distros with
singular digit devs.

>>55916970
Then I'll switch to something else.

>>55917182
Livin' the distro-hopper lifestyle, I see.

Does anyone have a choose-your-own-distro pic? Preferably the most recent if possible. I need it for a presentation soon.

>>55917225
The guy isn't some random retard that decide to publish a package on the AUR. Motivation isn't a huge issue if he was willing to devote the insane amount of time and effort to develop the distroy single-handedly. If he were to get sick or die then I'll switch to something else.

>>55917246
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/File:Ospicker.png

Notice the address.
Read the fucking Sticky!

>>55917257
Is he getting paid for it though?
No? Then I doubt he'd be willing
to spend stupidly amounts of time
on a distro.

>>55917303
Please stop being retarded. This was one guy. This distro is his baby.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void_Linux

>>55917282
Ah, totally forgot about the site itself, I just thought it's something only in the boards. Thanks anon.

>>55917328
Doesn't matter, unless he's set for life,
he still needs to eat and food costs money,
and money requires you to have a job.
You're clearly a fangay, so I doubt anything I say
will matter anyway.

>>55917379
I have no idea what his financial situation is but he's already shown years of commitment to the development of Void.

You're just trying to find a reason to dismiss him and Void.

>>55917432
You misunderstand me. I'm not in any way
dismissing his efforts to his distro.
I'm just saying, he is still just one man even if
he's that good.

>>55917478
I understand, but for now his distro looks really good. If one day he decides to stop its development then there's really nothing else to do but "distrohop".

When Arch went full retard with systemd people left. People are free to disagree and move on to something else. Unless you're a blind fanboy you always risk having to move to a different distro one day. It's not a problem unique to small development teams.

>>55916954
> Retard Friendly

That is what Linux needs, is to be usable by retards.

> hurr normies will ruin muh secret club OS

There will always be autist distros. Calm your tits and appreciate the greater software availability that comes with widespread adoption.

>mfw void linux wiki is down

>>55917478
Slackware is maintained by one guy and it's great.

>>55917549
They announced maintenance on it but that was supposed to be two days ago. It should be back up any time.

>>55916655
Anyone?

>>55917554
Will you be saying the same thing when slack
finally succumbs and embraces systemd?

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Going to install arch for the first time, heard good things about KDE and GNOME. Which one would be perfect for a normie windows user who is going to be dual-booting into Arch and using windows to play games and use programs not compatible with linux? I want a desktop that can be customized to eventually become a waifu desktop. Also, how would I partition my SSD during the configuration of Arch that has windows on it so I can also have arch on it?

>>55917828
a budding archkiddie everyone

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Hi /ftl/, how do you manage your passwords? I just installed keypassx and am in the middle of changing almost all of my passwords I give a shit about. In a worst case scenario, i.e. all of my backups of the database are fucked, what do I do then? I'm thinking of embracing the cloud botnet as another source of backup, but I'm not sure if I should. I could always encrypt in and push it, r-right?

>>55917828
KDE is a lot more like Windows but Gnome is a much nicer environment. If you want a "waifu desktop" (read: shitty desktop) you won't use either of those anyway.

Why is Linus in a dunk tank, and why would anyone possibly want to dunk him?

>>55917828
KDE is the most normie-friendly DE.

Why you're doing Arch if you're a linux noob I'm sure I don't know.

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>>55917960
>why would anyone possibly want to dunk him?

>>55917899
Back it up in an encrypted external hdd/flash
and store in a safe place?

>>55917933
> Gnome is a much nicer environment

Gnome is unusable shit, even on touchscreens that it was designed for.

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>>55917964
I own a raspberry pi and have used ubuntu MATE as well as raspbian on it for a long time now.

>>55917964
Arch is the new distro for noobs

>>55918029
it shouldn't be, the Arch wiki basically ensures you never learn anything about the OS and just copy paste shit.

>>55917547
Linux doesn't need more retards.
Linux needs more developers.
Literally no one cares about market share.

>>55918054
what would you recommend starting with? was gonna install arch but I'm sort of feeling that whole "copy and paste and not learn" anything just by looking through shit

>>55917964
>Le secret club
Arch is a distro like any other.
Deal with it.

>>55918054
You're absolutely right, but noobs are usually lazy and the wiki spoonfeeds them every little thing they need.

>>55917964
>Arch is hard meme

Typing in some commands that you read in a thorough guide isn't difficult.

>>55918072
Well then don't. There's a perfectly fine installer available for Arch (Architect).

On the other hand, you can build all major distros up from scratch if you like that kind of thing.

Things that matter when chosing a distro:
>package selection in the repos
>release cycle
>active development
>package manager
>philosophy

Things that don't matter:
>everything else

>>55918072
Debian or openSUSE. It's my personal belief that people interested in learning Linux should start out with Slackware (or maybe try it as a VM) because it will force you to learn how Linux works as a desktop OS, but most people will probably disagree with me.

Why do people use Gnome and KDE in CURRENT_YEAR? They're really bloated and definitely feel bloated. Gnome especially looks ugly as hell. Do people just use them because they're always recommended because they're popular?

>>55918189
what else then?

>>55917899
Gpg encrypted text file

>>55918189
Because they're polished and have a GUI for almost everything, bloat is not a big issue these days and pretty much every DE will be less bloated than Windows. As for appearance you can make Gnome look how you like with themes.

>>55918202
Cinnamon, MATE, or XFCE.

Stock XFCE looks great and is quick as hell.

>>55918021
My apologies. Nice Maki, BTW

>>55918073
Who said anything about secret club nonsense? I'd rather a noob use an easy distro so they don't get frustrated and spam /g/ with

> wow Linux is so shit I have to do everything fuck your neckbeard OS

Nothing against Arch, it's just not a noob distro,

>>55917899
>/fglt/
fixed that for you.

and i moved from keepass to pass, which is this >>55918215 but easier to manage

>>55918059
This.

>>55918241
The Arch beginner's guide tells you exactly what to type in, though. It even holds your hand after the base installation and tells you what you should install as a general user and how to install it.

If Arch were difficult it wouldn't be as popular as it is.

When the stupid fucking stallman cunts brought their GNU shit is when this thread went downhill

It started out as /flt/, that guy more right than you first time, fuck off from this board and don't come back, you cunts are the reason people hate Linux

Linux was never meant to be about your Jewish Marxist communist bullshit, right from the very start, the stupid cunt stallman has been trying to destroy us with his cancer, I look forward to that fat fuck dying off quickly

>>55918285
Yeah, I can't understand the pure freedom mentality. You're just limiting yourself to shitty software.

There's a difference between wishing for pure FOSS systems and accepting reality.

>>55918285
nice meme

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>>55917828
Do it man.

I installed arch on my new laptop and have been dicking around with it for the past few weeks.

I installed XFCE4 at first since I used it on my Debian VM, but I just ended up sticking with i3wm. There is nothing more rewarding than having created something that works perfectly for you.

Nothing has broke yet, hopefully more smooth sailing.

Best of luck to you. Just make sure you read the wiki if you run into any trouble.

>>55918325
>limiting
How does Freedom limiting you? The only software that limits your is proprietary software.

>>55918347
It limits my ability to get real work done.

How does freedom help me? Proprietary software is created out of competition. FOSS is half-assed hippy shit that people create in their free time.

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>>55918343
Thanks for the encouragement, anon. I think I'm gonna start with KDE and use i3 as a window manager. Now I just need to figure out how I'm going to partition my SSD without breaking the windows installation on it.

>>55918369
>It limits my ability to get real work done.
What work exactly? Just buy a fucking Mac if you hate freedom so much.
>inb4 'muh photoshop'
where do all these anti-FOSS "graphic designers" come from

>>55918343
>Arch
>i3
>anime

wow, so original. Did you come up with that yourself?

>>55918369
FOSS is made by people who like programming, this results is high quality software

proprietary is made as bait for
a) jewing your money
b) jewing your data

>>55918402
>I don't like what you like
>So it must be shit
Real OC there, did you come up with that yourself?

>>55918285
One one hand we have to deal with the juden selling us Windows, the perfect tool of kike capitalism that can gather all sorts of data on us to sell.

>OR

On the other hand we have Linux, which has become infested with the juden spouting their other poison, Marxism.

Tell me brother, NatSoc distro that crushes both the capitalist and communist swine when?

>>55918411
And proprietary software is made by people trying to advance their career and make a name for themselves.

Some FOSS is better. Some proprietary software is better.

>>55918421
>muh subjectivity

You're free to do what you want but you're a walking stereotype on certain forums. Does doing what everyone else does make you feel less lonely or something?

>>55918285
>communist
Go back to school and learn what communism is.

Also without RMS this thread wouldn't even exist.

>>55912511
>average temperature below 0
>temperature never drops below 0

Something can't be right there

I fucked up.

I got ubuntu a few month ago and a buddy installed compiz or something and said its kinda cool. Nothing happend and I didnt bother deinstalling. Well yesterday I uninstalled it and now I have nothing. There is only my desktop background. I can get to the terminal but I am too ubuntu-illiterate to do shit.
I hope someone knows what problem i am facing. I cant even get chromium running.

>>55918482
>I got ubuntu
You really fucked up.

>>55918402
Post your desktop I wanna see it.

I use arch because I got a new laptop and there wasn't hardware support on Debian.

i3 is just generally great and looks really sexy.

I like some anime, but then again who doesn't?

>>55918421
That wasn't me tho.

>>55918444
The last thing I would ever care about is being a stereotype on 4chan.

...

Fuck, this is the only place I fit in. I'm proud to have an anime arch install. I'm proud because I'm proud to be one of us. Stop trying to make that a bad thing you fucking faggot.

>>55918482
run:
metacity --replace

>>55918483
sry for new thread

>>55918399
I found a three-part install guide on youtube that took about 45 minutes to follow along with.

Its the scrubbiest way to do it but it gets results.

>>55911201
OpenBSD dev here, that guy looks like one fat masturbating monkey.

>>55918423
use free shit to learn and create for your own purposes, dont wait for other people to do it for you bc they will always add their own personal flavors or the flavors that they happen to think other people like
>>55918325
>>55918444
i see it as "lets learn how the shit we use all the time works, so that we can do it ourselves" the "everything should be free" idea is retarded, I agree.
looking at it from the perspective of wanting to better the open knowledge of things and being able to implement it yourself is legit not a "i am the best no matter what"

>>55918507
>I like some anime, but then again who doesn't?

Using Arch and i3 isn't the issue, but when you add in the waifu wallpaper like everyone else you scream "I'm trying hard to fit in by doing what everyone else is doing instead of making my own decisions."

>>55918565
>Using Arch and i3
>making my own decisions

>>55918565
>Using Arch and i3
The living meme.

>>55918596
You saw other riced desktops with Arch and i3 and decided to use those things as well. That was your decision.

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>>55918565
Dude I have two fucking pictures on my harddrive right now.

One of them is that Evangelion wallpaper that I made.

The other is my actual wallpaper. Which is a painting from Thomas Cole. I guess he is my favorite painter but this isn't a waifu wallpaper...

Maybe you should look at the screenshot again. pic related is without any tiles open.

>>55918607
I give people the benefit of the doubt because both are legitimate tools but when they add in the waifu shit it's obvious they have no idea what they're doing.

>>55918611
triggered

>>55918509

Now i have the option to close the terminal, but nothing really changed. Am I missing something?

>>55918611
i3 is a boring WM tho, no riced /desktops/ use i3, it's either a highly customized fork (i3-gaps) or other wms like bspwm, awesome, wmutils, etc
i3 is the ubuntu of rice

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>>55918640
>Am I missing something?

>>55918657
Are there really people out there that just use regular i3, and not i3-gaps?

>>55918672
Would you cancerfags kindly fuck off? This is a friendly thread.

>>55918675
Yeah, people who actually use a tiling wm
to maximize screen space first and not to
look good.
Surprising, I know.

>>55918686
>Would you cancerfags kindly fuck off?
Sir, how dare you refer to me as a fan of GPL

>>55918705
Are you telling me that there are people that use linux for actual computing purposes and not just to take impractical screenshots where way too much stuff is open on a single workspace?

>>55918729
low_quality_bait.jpg

>>55918634
Are you gonna get back to me on why you though Thomas Cole's painting was a waifu wallpaper?

>>55918705
*tips fedora*

>>55918743
>Are you telling me that there are people that use linux for actual computing purposes
most of them tend to use an off the shelf distro like hannah montana linux.

>>55918779
>hannah montana linux
tep kok

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>>55918751
>low_quality_bait
actually master bait tbqh

>>55918769
Yeah, you still took the screenshot with waifushit.

New! -> >>55918845

Is there anything better than KDE?

>>55918072
Just install Ubuntu like everyone else, but bite the fucking bullet and don't do it in a VM. You'll learn more about Linux by living there than you will by installing some distro you'll never use in a VM.

>>55918952
I have arch working on my desktop. Maybe I should just stick with arch. I'm interested in learning about linux, and maybe having to glue all the pieces together is the best way to learn. I just thought maybe there are TOO many pieces to glue together all at once for a beginner that actually does need his machine for development/work

>>55913976
May I suggest installing plain old Arch Linux and adding both the Black Arch and Arch Strike repos? Between those and the pentesting tools in the AUR, you'll have a selection of hundreds of goodies. You won't have to run your OS as root all of the time and you can use whatever DE/WM you want without any hassle. Got a gpu? Enjoy having working drivers versus the bullshit Kali makes you endure. I mean really Kali, why give us gpu password crackers if you aren't going to provide a feasible way to install gpu drivers?

Is an Ubuntu derivative secure by default, or are there settings that need to be changed/enabled?

Also, how is there a way to install Chromium without the code that makes it phone home if you compile it from source?

>>55917994
>even on touchscreens that it was designed for.
It was never designed FOR touchscreens you butthole. It was designed with the simplicity of touchscreen environments in mind. If you use Gnome as intended it actually has a similar feel as i3WM. Unity is a sort of half assed attempt at the same, too.

>>55918072
You're going to copy and paste on any distro, you screaming autist. Nobody is born knowing this shit.

>>55918423
I choose neither so fack off cunt

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>>55916442
> Funtoo better Gentoo

It is. The origginal creator of Gentoo got tired of dealing withr bureaucratic nonsense and forked it to funtoo (fun back in gentoo)

I personally tried funtoo but decided I didn't want to not have Systemd.

> I die in 3...2...1...

>>55916572
Shit

>>55911373
>SJW
>RedHat cucks
>xorg is broken

>>55919366
I use man Instead of wikis whenever I can. Feels more like learning.

>>55920113
>all I know is based on memes from /g/

>>55920577
>I want biased meme opinions.
I've used all three and currently use one of them on both the desktop and the laptop.