/hpg/ - Headphone General

>Budget
350-400€
>Location
EU
>Source
PC with dedicated barely above shit PCI soundcard
>Preferred type of headphone
Around-ear
>Comfort level
As high as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/Bass
>Past headphones
Koss Porta-pro, Sennheiser Momentum M2

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Second for DT1990

>>55882146
Get a decent dac/amp and a HD-600, they're neutral as hell with decent bass.

>>55882398
Is the Aune X1S any good?

>>55882494
Yes but the amp is not very powerful, although it sounds good and the DAC is quite good (based on reviews, haven't heard it myself).

The HD600s will probably get loud enough but maybe not ear-splitting. If you can get the X1S with the possibility of returning it if it's not powerful enough you could test it out. Or even better if you could just audition it somewhere but that's probably not possible as I just haven't seen them around stores.

Hi I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions for ear buds or something I could wear when working out. I would prefer something on the cheap side since I already have V-moda crossfade Lp for my home setup and Don't want to have to worry about breaking them.

>>55882153
I really need to go to the store and test those

>>55882494
You might also consider the Fostex HP-A3

>>55883360
I'll assume you meant IEM because earbuds are literally hitler-tier. For cheap I would say Philips SHE3590 is best, if you can go to $40-ish then the Zero Audio ZH-DX200/ZH-DX-210 is a good choice

>>55883395
First impression from someone on head-fi is that they don't have the beyer treble peak so I'm curious to try them on and see if it's bullshit or not, hopefully my store will stock them in like two months

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I currently have the vsonic vsd1s, I wonder how much of an upgrade is vsd5s?

>Budget
60$
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer, GNU/Linux
Preferably 3.5mm cable(s)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open, but it doesn't matter too much
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Past headphones
Superlux hd668b

Other info:
I'm looking for 5.1 headphones. I like the audio quality of my superlux, and don't care too much to go further, although I'm open to.

>>55883812
>5.1 headphones

Don't... do that. You want headphones with good imaging and a wide soundstage, the "surround sound" headphones are just faking it and it's usually pretty jarring in my experience. YMMV

That said, at your price point I don't know if you'll get something much better than the Superlux 681 for soundstage. You might check the used market for some AKG 240 MKII's or something

>Budget
£100 flexible

>Location
UK

>Source
PC

>Preferred type of headphone
Around-ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Comfy, I wear headphones all day.
I have big ears so cups need to be quite large to fit.

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>Budget
300 USD/ 270 EUR
>Location
EU
>Source
Samsung S6 / Pioneer DC-100Z
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear/On ear (if comfy)
>Comfort level
Not an issue
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral with a bit of a roll-of in treble
>Past headphones
AKG K181, Sennheiser CX 5.00

Im thinking Sennheiser HD25 or maybe Shure SRH 40.

>>55883812
MDR-7506

>>55884444
meant for
>>55884162

so i bought this

http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/dt-990-pro.html

what do i use to power them and get nice sound out of flac
im using integrated realtek and as you can guess its shit

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>>55884849
also Preferred something that plugs into pcie and not external

idk if thats any good tho
hint, using those for pc gaming and with modmic when im not listening to music

>>55882040

>HD-650s, reporting in.

I think this is the equilibrium of headphones.

Any more expensive headphones and you're just getting the placebo effect and/or diminishing returns.

>>55885034
Placebo is not true but certainly there are diminishing returns. You don't buy $1000 headphones just for value.

>>55884849
>>55884906

I don't think any internal soundcard will sound better than an external solution. I don't know how good the headphone amp is in this but it's probably the most convenient option for you: Creative Sound Blaster Omni.

You can always optical out to a better dac/amp if the amp in it sucks.

>>55885034
Transducers, like headphone will never be placebo. Literally every single speaker or headphone sounds different. Diminishing returns is true though. A HD800 isn't going to magically make you eargasm when you listen to it. At the end of the day it's still just noise

Does anyone know how a little dot mk1+ and a pair of k702's will match up? I'm almost ready to pull the trigger.

>>55882398
>HD600
>neutral

LOL
O
L

>>55885118
yes, might be best

those headphones also have kind of short cable

>>55882040
Why is she so skinny? Like, it's literally offensive...?

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Waiting for my Philips Fidelio X2 to come. I heard the sound stage and imaging is great!

>>55885380
I like their screwdrivers

>>55885380
I'm just so fucking torn between these and the AKG Q701's. It's just insane how hard it is to choose a pair of headphones. Goddamn.

>>55885469
Did you try them both?

>>55885748
I've only managed to try the Q701 briefly, will test them at least one more time. Unfortunately can't test the X2's, the local store doesn't carry them.

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I just ordered akg k240's, did I do good? I used to have technica m30's but they broke.

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>>55885469
I like the Q701 better than the X2 but I may be biased...

>>55886040
What puts me off the Q701's a little is the whole amp thing - while I'm probably gonna get an amp/DAC someday, I've heard the AKG's are a bit picky when it comes to amps, and if I were to go the Q701 + dac/amp route I could probably only get my hands on something like Dragonfly Black or FiiO E10K and I'm not sure if I'd regret it later on. How would you describe the Q701's sound? My own opinion about them was akin to something like pretty thin, detailed, wide but not very deep soundstage. Tried them from the store's Marantz CD player and my phone (not a very good source, I know).

>>55886268
>My own opinion about them was akin to something like pretty thin, detailed, wide but not very deep soundstage.

This is fairly accurate. I've always preferred something with an airy sound so the Q701 fits my requirements to the T.

It's also true that it needs something beefy to make them sing but the Magni and Modi are like only $200 total so it's not a big deal.

>>55883360
Thanks

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Found this at the thrift store for $15. I do good?
I'm new to audio faggotry and having a hell of a time trying to find info on this thing. Searches either turn up Russian sites, or for the "DX" version of it.

>>55886268
Well it depends how loud you want them to go. I used my K701s with a Sony MP3 player and they sounded fine. Didn't go ear blasting loud but it was enough for home use

>>55885998
Been using a pair of k240 as my main drivers for the last 4 years.

They've been amazing, produces very natural and clear sound. Bass can be considered low but I prefer it this way.

Tried using the ATH m50s for a lil bit, but the sound wasn't really what I was looking for.

I do edit alot of videos tho so that's the reason I prefer to stick to the neutral sound.

Changed the pads to velour pads though, those plastic pads were disgusting

>>55886364
I like clarity and detail but I also don't want the music to sound boring. Would you recommend them for someone who listens to a pretty wide variety of music (from stuff like The Smiths to Yung Lean to Aphex Twin to a bit of classical)? How's the bass in those - I don't want fart cannons but I'd like to hear the bass well. How's the balance?
Also, 200€ is a lot for a poorfag student. Can't shell out a lot of money often, so I need to be satisfied with the purchase for a good while.

>>55886569
>I like clarity and detail but I also don't want the music to sound boring. Would you recommend them for someone who listens to a pretty wide variety of music (from stuff like The Smiths to Yung Lean to Aphex Twin to a bit of classical)?

Yeah, no problem. The Q701 is a definite all-rounder with a bit of edge in symphony classical and live recordings.

>How's the bass in those - I don't want fart cannons but I'd like to hear the bass well. How's the balance?

The bass is a bit lean for sure but it's not distorted and bleeds into the low mid like the HD600 or HD650 do.

If you're worried about the bass there is the K7xx variant which sounds slightly bassier but there is a trade-off in terms of clarity.

>Also, 200€ is a lot for a poorfag student.

I would save up until you can afford at least the Magni and Modi. Don't get the O2 either since it doesn't supply enough current for the Q701.

>>55886715
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
How do you feel about FiiO E10k or Dragonfly Black? Are they able to amp the headphones properly? Any idea how they sound?

>>55882040

recommend on pc headphone amp $200 budget

>>55886715
You're probably the first person on here to say that o2 doesn't have enough power for 7xxs. I'm pretty sure Nwavguy himself stated and checked the 7xx with o2. Explain your reasoning.

>>55886842
I haven't the Dragonfly Black so can't comment much but the Magni and Modi stack is quite a bit better than the E10K. Mine is even the older original version so the new one should be even better.

>>55886970
I've compared both and find that the Magni and Modi gives a better bass than the O2. At that time it was also cheaper so going with the Schiit stack is a no-brainer.

Anyone know how the Venture Electronics Monk Plus Earbuds on Massdrop are?

>>55887784
I hate earbuds so I would say they're shit

>>55887420
Did you do an ABX test?

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>>55882040
who's the artist for this? didn't he make a bunch of great steampunk/airship/loli art? he did an anime too I think.

>>55882153
yeah remember when the dt1770 was going to be the shit?

I honestly can't remember the least beyer release that wasn't a let down.

>Budget
50-60$, not flexible
>Location
Canada
>Source
iPod5, planning on getting some sort of android smartphone in the future
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM earbuds
>Comfort level
As long as it doesn't fall out of my ear every two seconds, the comfort doesn't matter.
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't matter.
>Past headphones
Apple earpods. They break too easily and I want something that will last me a long time with sound quality that will be enjoyable.

Basically, I need earbuds that will be affordable and can work on an apple ipod or an android smartphone which is what I am planning on getting later. Thanks for any help.

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>>55883360
hje-120k best cheap IEM. everyone should own these for comfort alone.

>>55883755
how is it? I've been thinking of getting one for ages but now I think I want the mk5

>>55883812
yeah just stick with what you have or go closed. 668b is already pretty much the best in that range. save up.

>>55884444
hp50, might even be able to get a pm3 if you hunt for used/refurb.

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>>55885380
>>55885469
>>55886040
I have both and love both. I'm listening to the x2 right now out of an e10. I also have an hd600, so you know the kinds of references I'm using.

get the x2 if you're looking for bass, and that somewhat chunky, driving sound that makes electronic, metal, rock sound nice and punchy.

that said, unless you want that bit of fun coloration, don't get the x2, go for the AKG. the x2 does all music well but when you really listen to classical, acoustic, vocal music with more complex elements it becomes clear that the AKG is overall more balanced and refined. it is leaner sounding, the bass has a nice punch (maybe better than the hd600), but it doesn't have the kind of impact and warmth the x2 has. the highs and upper mids are more even than the x2, but there is a mild upper-mids emphasis that makes them sound "cold" to some people. not necessarily a bad thing though, the q701 is as cold as the hd600 is smooth (or veiled) sounding.

neither really needs an amp, the q701 is hungry but less than the hd600. x2 wins in comfort but not by a mile. x2 will be more immediately pleasing to less-experienced ears, it has a normie friendly sound if that helps.

sorry for the rambly post just woke up.

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I've been looking at the panasonic rp-htx7s. I've heard they are pretty good for the money. Does anyone have any experience with them?

I'm wondering if the Sennheiser HD202s aren't better for the money

>>55886411
I have no idea but for $15 if it works that's a steal. can't tell if the headphone outs are for balanced use (doubt it) it for monitoring with different headphones/people/sources.

>>55888297
piston 3, get them while you can. they have controls that work on android too. only thing is the don't isolate well at all, they're like an open headphone. if you want isolation I suggest the meelectronics m6 pro, much more expensive but in your budget and good at blocking noise.

>>55888551
ehh they're not bad but honestly they're style/retro-bait headphones. you could get better for the money, same goes for the 202. what is your budget?

the last time i browsed /hpg/ was many years ago

anything new that I should add to my o2/odac + dt880 setup?

>>55887420
>>55888549
Informative stuff all around, thanks. I don't think I'll have the dosh and availability to go for the Schiit stack, so would you say that the E10K is good for the price? And one last bit of info, my previous cans were Shure SRH440's and I liked them. Would it make more sense to go for the X2's or the Q701's?

>>55886715
>it doesn't supply enough current for the Q701
Not quite the case. Roughly speaking, the 701 impedance load is around the peak power outout of the O2, but it is slightly more limited by voltage than current supply.
In any case,
>Magni and Modi gives a better bass than the O2
does not follow from current limits, which I am highly skeptical you were encroaching upon.

>>55888718
>ehh they're not bad but honestly they're style/retro-bait headphones. you could get better for the money, same goes for the 202. what is your budget?

I would say around $50 I'd willing to go a little higher though. What I'm looking for is mostly "workhorse" headphones. Something I can throw in a bag not cry if they break or get lost but are still pretty decent. Closed is preferable because I'd like as low sound leakage as possible and I'd probably be using them in environments where I can't control the surrounding noise level like an airport or hotel lobby. Portability is not a huge concern as they would be carried in a bag or backup

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>Budget
$50-$150
>Location
Canada
>Source
iPod
>Preferred type of headphone
over/on-ear
>Comfort level
high
>Open/closed
closed
>Past headphones
some shit sonys

This is a present for someone. They go through a lot of headphones and prefer a removable cable. They'd usem at work/on the bus. Prefer something that wont break in a month.

Is it worth it to buy a DAC for under 100$ as a replacement for shitty integrated sound?
Using K553s as my headphones rn.


Thanks hpg, really appreciate it

>want to buy Shure 440 and mod in velour cushions
>doing this apparently ruins the sound
I just wanna be comfy

-My budget is 6k USD (yeah, i know)

-I listen to improvisational jazz (give me percussion! and sound artists with the occasional foray into Arethra Franklin's catalogue (guilty pleasure what can I say)

-I play Sierra games. Sometimes I play the modern stuff too. When I do I like immersion!

- I want to feel comfortable as heck. Like two clouds breezing by my canals. Anything less is unacceptable.

I'm ready for a recommendation.

>>55888959
Velour pads don't seal as well around the ear, which changes bass response and some other things.

You could try looking for some real leather pads.

>>55889047
Benchmark DAC2 + Sennheiser HD800S

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what's your opinion on V-Moda?

I need over-ear + Bluetooth and these probably sound better than Beats

>>55889047
get custom IEMs

>>55889093
That hardly breaks my budget. I am looking for serious recommendations.

>>55889116
Which means what exactly? Wow. What a helpful bunch you've all been so far.

>>55885243
Name a more neutral headphone in production besides SRH-1440/1840 (distortion monsters) and Etymotic ER-4.

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>>55888799
e10k is more than enough. what you're paying for with those other amps is build quality pretty much, the extra power isn't going to be needed outside of some very hungry headphones which you'll probably never own. the sound quality is the same on both, and the e10 gets plenty loud. I have mine set on level 3 of 10 and all my headphones get loud, including q701, hd600, and x2. I will say though while the x2 is only 32ohm and plays out of anything fine, it will be a bit quieter on say a phone than another generic headphone or IEM, I think the stock cable is just more resistive, haven't tested it.

as for coming from the 440's, they don't seem to have prominent bass elevation, more roll off actually, so you'll be more getting more extension on both ends no matter what you pick. but since you're not used to a bass hump you might find the leaner bass and colder sound of the AKG more palatable.

if money is a problem you could honestly skip the amp altogether. testing from my cheap phone I didn't have to get close to max volume to make either very loud.

>>55889047
Buy 15 HD 650s because they're endgame anyway and a dragon dildo to go with it

>>55889272
Yeah... okay... no.

These threads are garbage. I was wrong to seek advice from you fools.

>>55889047
JPS Labs Model AB-1266 Deluxe + Custom AMP

But you're just memeing so fuck off

>>55889187
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-ear-monitors#J8aRdM2jirybsCmc.97

Or just buy Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10

>>55889305
I think you can cheap out and just buy 14 and spend that extra $300 on a couple gallons of fake cum as well

>>55888921
Probably, yes. At $100 you might consider the Micca Origen+ dac/amp

I never had headphone with a detachable cable and im about to get some Monoprice 8323.

So is a detachable cable annoying?

>>55889095
Sound bretty gud, built well, nice cables, fairly comfy but they're all on-ear headphones AFAIK

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>>55889305
whatever namefag
don't let the door hit u on the way out

>>55889266
Thank you very much, I just might be decided on the AKG's. Will go try them out one more time at the store to get a good impression on them.
Money is most likely gonna be a bit tight soon, but right now I can probably extend the budget a bit to go for the E10K. That and the Q701's sound like the best way to go.

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>>55888886
CAL, v6, or hammo s.

CAL is 50, v6 is 60-80, hammo s is 60 on ebay.

CAL is quite bassy/warm sounding. this is one of the best bassy headphones imo, very forgiving but it also sounds a bit loose and bloated, but it does have an amazing FR for the price. build quality is just ok, and while they're small they don't fold. but if you like warm sigs this is a must own.

v6 is one of the best headphone out there, but it's kind of the opposite of the CAL, it's very detail and unforgiving, even sibilant without eq. but if you want to get into "audiophile" level sound for cheap this is it. build is also amazing, mostly metal. it folds too. but it does have a long, bulky fixed cable which is why most people don't use it on the go.

hammo s is the most portable, it has a very balanced, close to neutral FR. isolation is great, comfort too. they fold and come with a nice case and 2 removable cables with phone controls. I love this headphone but they do have problems: they're beats clones, and while they have excellent build quality for a clone including metal parts they are gaudy looking. they also sound great stock but to make them sound amazing you have to do a mod that requires no tools but does make you take off and put the pads back on which is a huge pain with how they're designed.

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>>55889315
Thanks. These sound amazing as a matter of fact. I love the design too. Will order. I do not know what you mean by custom amp however. As in build one myself?

>Budget
$125 flexible
>Location
US
>Source
ASUS Xonar Essence STX
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Bright if possible, but not needed
>Past headphones
shitty razer headset

>>55889379
cool. just eq the lower bass up a tad and see how you like it. if after that you want more bass impact and warmth, return them and get the x2.

>>55888769
Why the would you? What do you not like about it?

>>55889122
On the chance you are here to do more than crap on the thread.

>That hardly breaks my budget. I am looking for serious recommendations.
What is that supposed to mean? What do you think the extra money gets you? The Stax SR-009 and electrostatic amp is the serious pricier solution.
Adding a Smyth Realiser would be a better use use of the remaining money.

>>55889445
oh and I also need a new mic
shitty desktop mic would be fine right?

>>55889496
I don't need a freaking amp. I'm listening not playing.

>>55889533
Headphone amplifier, as akin to loudspeaker amplifier.
The Stax require it because they are condenser headphones, and require bias voltage, just as with condenser microphones.

>>55889580
I'm buying these Abyss headphones. From what I have skimmed so far the makers developed from the ground up a different way of amplificationing sound with electromagnetism and the best formed from minerals coil they researched. It has lambskin cushioning for the ears. I don't think it needs an amplifier but that's just me. I think they knew what they were doing when they designed this badboy but hey that's just me.

>>55889420
Thank you very much, I think I'll go with v6 and just zip tie up the slack in the or something but I will screencap this post for reference

>>55889438
>These sound amazing as a matter of fact
no, they don't. you're being memed so let me help you out with a serious answer:

diminishing returns hit hard on headphones after about the $300 range. I will list you some headphones that are considered among the best that are expensive but you have to know an hd600 is going to get you like 80-90% of the way there. here are some expensive headphones worth buying:

hd800/hd800s
stax of your choosing
mr speakers ether/ether flow
focal elear/utopia
hifiman he1000, edition x
maybe one of the audeze LCD series
stax sr009 (the only one that will actually push your budget, was and still is considered the best purchaseable headphone)

the only higher-end headphone that can be considered better than these (by most) would be the sennheiser orpheus. the old one is no longer made, can be up to 30k used. they just came out with a new one, over 50k new.

you can spend more on a placebo amp with tubes and shit but you'll be paying for a useless meme.

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>>55888188
Murata. He did character design for Last Exile.

>>55889344
no, it's freaking great and every headphone should have them. 8323 is not that great of a headphone though, be prepared to have it hurt the top of your head and then have the plastic crack along the band.

>>55889705
You're jealous. No, you can just come out and say it, you're jealous. I'm purchasing what appears to be the absolute best money can buy (the site I read compared it to a top of the line hyundai!) and this stirs a primal rage within you. Seeing others happy irritates you clearly. The green eyed monster lives in this thread. I'll get my Abyss and after a while that Orpheus will be mine as well. You can't stop me.I will defy you at every turn. I will not be beat.

>>55889705
this

if you're actually willing to blow up 6k, you might want to buy two headphones. maybe a closed one as a second.

e.g. I have HD650, Ether, and will have TH-X00 Purpleheart (used D2000 previously). each has a preferred purpose

>>55889631
>I'm buying these Abyss headphones.
You are are free to do whatever, I'm pretty sure 4chan doesn't control your finances. I wouldn't suggest it.

>makers developed from the ground up a different way of amplificationing sound with electromagnetism
Peculiar phrasing aside, it's usually called planar magnetic. It's somewhere between a ribbon and moving coil transducer. Magnepan, Audeze, Fostex, Yamaha, Hifiman are some other examples of audio brands known for this driver type.
I don't advise buying different technology for its own sake, but whatever.

>best formed from minerals coil they researched
Everyone says that.
The headphone is made almost entirely of aluminium, even the foam. This makes it a bit heavier than the famously weighty Audeze headphones, but JPS does pressure relief way better than Audeze ever did.

>I don't think it needs an amplifier but that's just me
It's more insensitive than a lot of other headphones on market. A common drawback of planar magnetic headphones.
More gain is advised, therefore a small headphone scaled amplifier is suggested.

>>55889438
>>55889305
>>55889187
>>55889122
I can't believe I didn't even notice the tripcode.

Dead giveaway.

>>55889774
since you're tripfagging, I welcome the upcoming proof. right?

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>>55889678
ehh cable is coiled too, so just tying it up might not work so well. what I did was tie the end of a string to the end of the first coil, then run the string through the middle of the bunched up coils to the last coil then tie the string off there with as much slack as you want. this basically means the coils can't expand past the string's length, so it gets much shorter. still bulky though. I'm sure there are other things you could do with the same idea. or you could mod in a removable cable, but because the cups are a thin metal you will need a dremel or something and parts + know-how.

>>55889445
>bright
>maximum comfy

Audio Technica ATH-AD700x

>>55889778
I have very sensitive ears. Like dog ears. The smallest pin is exposed to them. The best of the best of my preferred purpose because the quality of what A God gave me is itself impeccable. Anything less than pure quality would buzz in the background like an incessant fly. I need pure, absolute, perfect fidelity. No less, but more if you got it.

>>55889870
then anything but custom iems should upset you

good shit this thread
don't forget to buy the special USB cables because the standard ones transfer the sound differently

>>55889870
Get a pair of the Abyss' for each ear then. You'll hear in quadrophonic blasts.

>>55889905
I do not know what an iem is. Do not bring it up again.

>>55882040
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Why? People in every other general do this without issues.

>>55889912
Either you're the same tripfag currently being retarded, or you think that the "audiophile bullshit" thread is referring to /hpg/.

Most of this thread is trying to stop people believing in that shit.

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>>55889870
>I need pure, absolute, perfect fidelity.
>Abyss
I shall commence insulting you with smug anime grils

>>55889944
Because it results in the same comments and retarded arguments every time.

>>55889958
I'm being sarcastic you dense motherfucker, because that is my only way of coping with the fact that some people are actually taking some retarded tripfag seriously and giving him real advice

>>55889722
I feel like he worked on at least one of the final fantasy character designs. faces look like those chibi dwarf things in ff.

>>55889919
> tripfag
> not even good at trolling

what a surprise

>>55890012
Maybe try not acting like a retard, and people won't assume you're retarded.

You're welcome.

>>55889919
Dude, you're asking for advice and everything someone brings up you're fucking being an autist about it
>HD800s isn't expensive enough
Well I'll sell you a fucking pair of HD800s for $6k, will that make you feel better?
>I don't know custom IEM is so don't bring it up
Well then don't ask for fucking advice you goddamn retard

>>55890045
Just because you're so autistic that you cannot detect sarcasm doesn't mean that everyone around you is this retarded as well.

>>55890107
>Didn't quote anybody
>Just throwing retarded shitfits into the void
>IT WAS SARCASM

And you're sarcastically retarded.

>>55890122
I can't be arsed to give replies to some retarded spastic with a trip or to the dumbasses that actually reply to him, if it wasn't for your crippling autism and/or newfaggotry you would understand that. Keep sperging out, though.

>>55890076
Namecalling won't give you any props from me. Learn to be polite or I'll ignore you too.

>>55890156
You stay out of conversations that do not concern you. Adults speaking. Vamoose.

>>55889850
thanks man, looks good and a friend had them that says they're great

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>>55889870
You should make an anechoic chamber, lock yourself in it and gradually lose your mind

Sennheiser HD 800 vs The Sennheiser HD 800 S?

Leaning towards the former cause of the bass distortion.

>>55889705
What do you think about the 400i's?

>>55890370
The former. You can fix the treble shit with mods, but for perfect neutrality you shouldn't.

do the 558 have the best sq for under ~$80?

>>55890370
800S sounds better

>>55890565
Aren't the 558 like $150 US?

>>55890676
Amazon warehouse deal has them below $90.

>>55889095
One of the most durable options out there.
>>55889348
Depends a bit On ear size, and there are XL pads for those so seek extra Confort.

>>55890654
Only because they are distorted. Don't you value fidelity over fiction?

>>55890383
has this dip into the upper mids that then comes back into a spike, so it can have a somewhat fatiguing treble sig. a lot of planars, even ones considered amazing have this problem, and if you notice the latest a greatest have been trying to fix it with varying amounts of success. some people really don't mind it, some people are bothered enough that they go back to stuff like the hd600. that's the biggest problem with the 400i, rest of the range is great.

>>55890383
Not the same guy but as I understand it they're pretty damn good for the money, mostly neutral, but not very comfortable.

>>55890791
In journalism, yes.. in music I'll take what sounds best

>>55890370
Just get the 800. EQ resolves all the other matters.

>>55890947
Distortion is never good to have. It doesn't always matter as far as audibility is concerned, but it is good good audible.

>>55890812
>has this dip into the upper mids that then comes back into a spike
>the latest a greatest have been trying to fix it with varying amounts of success
That wasn't a much of a problem. Rather, I think most of the manufacturers are deliberately aiming towards such a signature.

>>55891058
Distortion can be good if it sounds better... It is subjective after all

>>55890370
HD600 is better than both of those garbage headphones.

If I can get pre-foam modded 558s for 60 bucks should I?

Hey I'm not very educated into headphones. I'm looking to get rid of some gaymin headphones and upgrade to something better.

I currently have Logitech G930

I don't really wanna spend more than 150 bucks

Can someone tell me about the Sennheiser HD 598's? do you recommend them or should i spend like 30 bucks more and get Audio-Technica ATH-M50x's?

>>55891771
Yeah, that's pretty cheap, as long as the rest of the headphone is fine.

>>55892172
Instead of the M50x's at that price, I would go with the Shure SRH840 for closed or the Q701 for open.

>>55892392
Do you not recommend the HD 598 at all?

>>55892172
I agree with >>55892392, i'd also add the K553 as a closed-back option (On massdrop by the way) or the HD558 if you really want that Senn, since it's the exact same driver.

>>55892448
No they are quite good as well, depends what you're looking for. For gaming replacements, I think the 2 I mentioned are better. For music it just depends on what you like.

Between the two, 600s or 400i's? Thanks!

>>55892543
HD600.

>>55892543
Personally I prefer the 400i but I like the sound of planars so I'm biased against the 600.

>Budget
200
>Location
Usa
>Source
Pc and maybe a dac amp but dont know which to get. Have another 100 to spend there
>Preferred type of headphone
Whatever
>Open or closed
Only ever tried closed but id like some open
>Comfort level
Comfort is nice but id sacrifice for sound
>Preferred tonal balance
V shaped with a lot of bass
>Past headphones
Sony mdrv55 which were underwhelming


Pls help

>>55892765
Oh yea and ive been looking at the beyerdynamic custom one pros or a model of dt 990s with lower resistance

>>55892172
The hd598 are good headphones.

The m50x are closed, and completely different though.

>>55892802
Either would be good options if you really really want your bass.

Fidelio x2 as well.

>>55892840
I heard open back is generally bad for bass though?

>>55892765
If you want bass at that price I would go with the JVC HA-SZ2000

>>55892873
X2 has a midbass hump larger than others in its category. For a home setup, it's pretty much always better to go for open anyway.

>>55892911
Would a dac amp be worth it?

>>55892809
Do the 598s have enough bass?

>>55892948
It won't be necessary because they are pretty efficient. If you really want one, then an E10K is more than enough.

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I make sure to listen to the most poorly mastered anime music to truly get the most out of my gear.

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Kek
Was just watching Tyll's solder video and this comes up. Youtube comments not even once.

>>55892985
How much does Pipo Password hurt out of them? It managed to hurt out of my SE535 which is pretty fucked up.

>>55893026
I haven't had a shower since coming back from work so I don't want to put them on right now but if I'm listening loud enough I can get some near physical pain from sibilant crooked Japanese teeth vocals.

>>55893026
>Pipo Password
This is now my sibilance test track.

>>Budget
$150 AUD
>>Location
Australia
>>Source
Galaxy s7
>>Preferred type of headphone
>earphone with mic
>>Comfort level
somewhat comfortable would be nice
>>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>>Past headphones
Sound magic s50, currently using piston 3's

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Fuck this gay earth

>>55892999
People say this shit even in real life. I'm in EE and at least a few times a month I hear people memeing about soLder

>>55893115
At least it's free shipping.

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Just got the 800S. Literally ear rape. Is this normal? Slightly sharp pain in my ears for the past few days and I'm scared of putting them on again. Feels bad..... Source is a solid state amp.

>>55893477
Sounds like you don't like a bright signature at all.

I've heard the build quality of the Brainwavz HM5 is shit and the plastic frame breaks like after a year.
How's the build quality on the M40x compared to that?

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About to sell my fidelio x2s; woox made them, not gibson. Does this make them worth more or something?

>>55893526
It's bright but man I don't think me ears are suppose to be pierced this badly. I hear the 800S are literally the same as the originals other than the tamed peak so I guess I only have my self to blame. Is there a good alternative to what I can get that is more forgiving?

>>55893477
Don't know about the 800S but that happened to me with the Q701s. Then I left them on overnight with pink and white noise playing through them and the next day it sounded good, no pain no harshness. Give it a shot.

Get the files here: http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_highdefinitionaudio.php

>>55893591
Thanks. I'll look into it.

>>55893583
Ether has treble that's generally sloping down or just EQ down wherever it hurts.

>>55893533
both have about the same build quality. and I'm not aware that there is a plastic cracking problem on either. sound like you're getting meme;d honestly.

>>55893551
probably not since most people won't know the difference and if they do they're going to get you to go as low as possible. besides, other than the glue the gibson pads are fine, infact the velour they use is nicer than the new pads. oh and then there is the paper stain problem but it seems to just happen on paper?

I have the M40x and it gets way too uncomfortable after about 2 hours.
What pads should I get that won't drastically change the signature?

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Thoughts on Sony's MDR-1ABT?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TEFUQLA/ref=crt_ewc_img_ld_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2YJIA1ULL9RPD

>Budget
$300
>Location
US
>Source
PC with above average dac, phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Higher (wear them all day)
>Preferred tonal balance
Mostly balanced, dont mind a bit of extra lower end
>Past headphones
ATH-M50x

Looking for wired AND bluetooth functionality. The headphones I linked seem to fit the drill but I cannot find a lot of info on them. Seems they're most sold in Japan?

Hi, I'm gonna go for a good headphone soon (need to try some more) and was wondering about powering them along speakers? Do I buy a dac/amp just for the headphones and then buy something for the speakers? I have now idea how to manage both?
If it helps : both will be used on a pc, I don't plan on buying the speakers for the next 6-12months

>>55893777
Forgot to mention that good looks is kind of a requirement. Will be wearing them in public and I'd like something kind of sleek and nice looking.

>>55893781
Passive or active speakers

>>55893757
srh 840 pleather. you can stuff them too if you like, just don't do it too much. and bend the headband. that will improve comfort significantly.

Just got mine hd330.I like them but am still wondering if I didn't fuck up.Also is there something I can do against the ultra tight gripping?I let them stay over the box for a whole night but they are still tight.

>>55893750
> I'm not aware that there is a plastic cracking problem on either. sound like you're getting meme;d honestly.
It was mostly amazon reviews, some of them had pics on them.

>>55893791
Probably active, but I haven't done the research yet

>>55893956
Then literally any headamp with a preout will do.

>>55893920
literally forcibly bend them, don't just place them on something and hope they'll loosen up. you have to be careful to bend them evenly but this is by far the best way to adjust a metal headband.

>>55893966
And if I decided to go with passive speakers?

>>55893979
A switch between the DAC and amps.

>>55893988
So in any case I just need to get a dac/amp with preamp out incase I go with active, and for passive it doesn't matter since I'll add a switch? Thanks a lot man. Do you have refs for those switches so I can know what that look like?

>>55893988
And any headphone amps works with speakers? I was probably gonna go for a schiit stack

>>55894024
Schiit's uber versions have preouts so that would work, they also make a switch

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>>55894003
>>55894024
You can probably cheat and use the preout to control the speaker amp but that is pretty sketchy.

>>55893971
How do I do that because I'm afraid to not break the headband.Also is there a way to replace the headband itself because its way too short and it almost touches my head.

>>55894090
first check that the headband is a complete metal strip. the 330 is a beyer clone, right? so should be fine.
sit down and then place the center of the band, either side up, on your knee/thigh. hold it tight so the center stays in place, this will make sure the bend is even. then just apply pressure with your hands on the ends of the band but not on the cups. try to hold it so the band is taking 100% of the force. it might feel like you're applying too much force but as long as the band is metal it won't snap or anything. just try to apply the force slowly.
watch one of tyll's old videos on the ath m-series. he used to do it live all the time like it was nothing.

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a pair of hd598 deserve a box like this one

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>>55894136
Thanks I really appreciate the info but am still wondering if I can replace the headband.
Pic related how it looks.

>>55894326
a company like that probably doesn't offer individual parts, but that looks so simple you might be able to jerry rig something yourself I mean it's just a couple of thin metal bands

>>55894390
>but that looks so simple you might be able to jerry rig something yourself I mean it's just a couple of thin metal bands
Exactly why I asked.They look simply enough but want to be 100% so I dont brake them on my 2nd day of use.

Yolandi is better than ninja officially the studant has surpassed the master

>>55889245
Sennheiser HD800
Sennheiser HD800S
AKG Q701
AKG K7xx
HiFiMan HE-560
STAX SR-L300
STAX SR-L500
STAX SR-L700
STAX SR-007 MK2
STAX SR-009
Ultimate Ears Studio Reference

>>55885034
Nice. I like my HD650 more than the Hd800

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>>55885243
Nice meme

Guys i got myself a Sennheiser HD 598. Did I do good? Also can you guys tell me what amplifier I should get with it. Also whats the effect of a amplifier on a headphones? What does it do. Im knew to this.

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Post amplifier internal porn.

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>>55894718

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>>55894718


>>55894758
Awful

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>>55894771

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>>55894771

Have had my takstar hi 2050s for a year now, where do I move on from this? Looking for excellent detail and clarity at a fair price.

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>>55894784

>>55894701
HD598, like every Senn HDxxx, has a 100hz impedance swing. Amps with high output impedance, such as the Crack, will cause the midbass hump to grow.

An E10K will work fine.

>>55894834
ok will be getting a e10k but can you explain what a impedance swing is? And why a high output impedance will cause a midbass? And what is a Midbass?

>>55893477
Don't play them so loud.

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>>55894885
HD598 is rated at 50 ohms but at 100hz, goes up to about 300 ohms. See pic related. More voltage will be going into 100hz compared to the rest, increasing the 100hz midbass bump further, resulting in a colouration.

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>>55894992
This is the HD800 but it has a 100hz impedance swing. Image should be self explanatory.

Does anybody know where I can get replacement ear cups for the Xiaomi Mi Heaphones?

>>55895014
>>55894992
Thanks dude.

My only problem with the HD598 is that the sound isnt that high. Is that normal? Even if i max out the volume it still sounds lowish compared to a cheaper headphones.

>>55895029
They are less sensitive than "normal" headphones so, yeah, it is pretty normal.

Volume really is the main reason to get an amp.

>>55894771
looks like audio gd. am i right?

>>55894831
this is my oc, sorry for the bad lightning, actually did this for repairs only
but i like it

>>55895064
oh so once i get the E10K the sound would be higher and the sound quality would be better?

>>55895093
You will definitely be getting more volume out of whatever you're driving it out of right now, that's for sure.

>>55895118
Just using it normally plugged into the motherboard. Hahaha I got so much to learn. Thanks guys.

Can anyone give me a alternative to the E10K? Budget is £100. I have a Sennheiser hd 598 SE. Country is UK.

>>55895180
Just an amp or a combo?

>>55895180
Why? E10K is pretty much the best thing in its price range.

>>55895203
An amp. I want something that looks cool on my desk, and that has a solid built quality.

>>55895225
It looks to small and average. If i cant find anything that looks better I would just get that one.

>>55895228
>>55895240
O2 or Magni 2. Whatever looks better to you.

>>55895254
Whats the difference between a tube amp and a normal headphones amp? It looks cool as fuck but dunno if i should pay £200 for it.

>>55895335
Literally paying for distortion and there's also the hassle of having to wait for them to warm up.

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>>55885998
Been using mine for about a month now.
Pairing it with e10k. Fair enough but I know their's still a good pairing amp for it.

>>55894326
If you can spend for a bayer earpads and headband, why not?

>>55895335
at that price you're better off with solid state (I should know: had one that was still decent but ss equivalents are much better)

tubes are always going to be more expensive, though

>Budget
$300
>Location
USA
>Source
Bluetooth
>Open or closed
Closed
>Past headphones
gayming headset and cheap earbuds

I've been looking at MDR ZX770BT but I'm sure there's a better pair of Bluetooth headphones somewhere that I just can't find.


Help appreciated

>>55895335
Tube amps are snake oil. A good amp is supposed to amplify the signal while minimizing noise and distortions, and does so by pushing its self-noise far below audible levels.
In other words, any effect the amp's electronics have on the signal occur at noise level, or some -105db (or more), which you won't hear. If you did, your music would sound like utter shit.

>Budget
£200, but willing to go a little higher
>Location
UK
>Source
PC, needs mic.
>Open or closed
Prefer closed but not that bothered.
>Comfort level
Comfy I guess
>Past headphones
Logitech G930

>>55895538
I'll probably get a pair of Bose Soundlink II's but if you think there's a better pair than that, feel to tell me

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>>55882040
>>Budget
>$100
>>Location
>Singapore
>>Source
>Iphone
>>Preferred type of headphone
>IEM
>>Open or closed
>Closed
>>Comfort level
>Higher (wear them all day)
>>Preferred tonal balance
>Base and good Treble.
>>Past headphones
>SE215, Earpods

>>55888549
I've been planning on getting the X2s, but I've heard that they have quality control issues because of Gibson i.e Glued on pads

Any other QC issues besides the pads and similar SQ to "real" models? The bad hype is either valid or exaggerated. Just want to know if I'll be fine gambling with a "defective" pair on Amazon. I suppose I can go through return processes though

>>55889095
>what's your opinion on V-Moda?

Best build quality, best cables, look cool, one of the best portables. Perfect choice if you don't mind some bass. Very customizable and fun.

>>55893583
>the 800S are literally the same as the originals other than the tamed peak
The thing is, the peak wasn't much tamed at all. It is still a peak at 6kHz, they didn't ''fix" or "solve" that.

>>55893591
>>55893626
Burn in? That doesn't do a damned thing, especially not to the treble. Wearing it with the driver slightly offset from the ear or pushing down on the earpads has much more of an effect. So does just getting used to it, which is really what the salesmen want you to do with burn-in.

>>55894568
Man, that's just wrong.
I mean, it doesn't matter that much with EQ, but no.

>>55895335
If I wanted something that looked interesting with tubes, I'd get a Nixie clock instead.
Tube amplifiers can be made fairly linear, more than what matters to audio at least. At that point, it's a novelty more delicate than a comparable solid state.
Of course, loads of tube amps have issues with linearity or have frequency response issues and what not.

>>55896615
Xiaomi Piston Hybrids or Rock Molas.

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>>55896972
>The thing is, the peak wasn't much tamed at all. It is still a peak at 6kHz, they didn't ''fix" or "solve" that.
It only looks like a peak relative to the rest of the graph, but it's actually a dip between 2k and 5k. Instead of trying to attack the highs, you can flatten it out by raising the mids. Get a good equalizer and make a curve that's the inverse of the response curve.
I have the HD800 and added the SD mod a few days later out of curiosity, sounded great either way DESU, no ear rape on my end. Maybe bad source/amp?

Quick Question: Is there any noticeable difference between the HD 598 and the HD 558?

The 558 is much cheaper. Don't want to have to pay for nearly the same product

>>55883360
Visit /csg/ for dirt cheap, decent to high quality IEMs, off the bat I can recommend the Rock Molas and Xiaomi Piston Hybrids.

>>55897194
That's the Anax mod, not the HD800S or the resonator mod. The use of entirely porous foam for the coupler also modifies the treble in a decidedly non-anatomically human fashion.
>HD800 tonality
My choice of words would be to call it V-shaped, boosted upper bass, lone treble rise and recessed mid-upper mid. I don't even think it's that treble rape. The point of the comment is that it's still the HD800, and if the treble peak is offensive before, it's still offensive.
>Get a good equalizer
I do know what a parametric equalizer is, which is something I have been trying to get the rest of /g/ to use for the last five years.

>music
I've used the FFT enough to be to sort out those issues.
>amp
Out of the few dozen amplifiers I've used, I cannot yet recall a situation in which there was more treble, excluding impedance interaction.

>>55897290
Besides the obvious paint job difference?
You might as well pick up the 518 instead of the 558. The 518/558/598 line share some parts and drivers.

>>55888914
Philips SHP9500, don't know why you want open headphones coming from an iPod though. They won't work that well outside and in public.

Is a Sennhesier a good headset for gaming?

>>55896972
It changed overnight so call it what you want. It's not a matter of getting used to it, pain vs. no pain is pretty obvious.

>Budget
250€
>Location
Eurofaq/Germany
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Maximus
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't care.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser Game Zero
Absolute shit tier. I want entertainment and not pcp tier headphones.
I want to buy the Beyerdynamic DT 770 with FiiO E10K Olympus. Good upgrade?

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Is the Teac HA-P50 worth it?
I have a pair of M50s that are usually playing off my phone, or sometimes my computer. I do not have any amps/dacs.

>Budget
200-300€
>Location
EU
>Source
Samsung galaxy S5 and my turntable / cd player
>Preferred type of headphone
Around ear
>Open or closed
dunno
>Comfort level
dont care
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser Urbanite

Thoughts on the Sennheiser HD 600's?

>>55885118
ok so i got this thing

its kinda ass desu
i have feeling its on par or worse than my integrated audio card, it has the mics and what not. Also whole thing barely gives more juice to headphones than the integrated. But its enough.

>>55900351
Yeah I had a feeling it might be ass but I've never used one. Well good to know anyway. I wonder if there is another comparable unit for convenience, none of the USB audio interfaces I've seen have mic-level inputs, just line and instrument so you can't use like a modmic in them.

>>55895081
no, agd do black pcbs

>>55900638
i dont know lad maybe i expected too much and the physology is fucking me over

i need to use it for a while and maybe buyer remorse wont be bad or some shit baka

So I went to the local store to try out the Q701's again. Listened to them for like 90 minutes or something like that. Tried out a wide variety of music. Source was my HTC One M7.
I think they're pretty great. The audio can be a bit harsh at times / on the higher volume, but I'm not sure if that's because of my HTC or the headphones - I'm guessing the former.
Good detail, although I feel like the midbass can sometimes bleed and be overpowered by the very, very forward mids on some recordings. Then again on better recordings the bass was fantastic. Accurate, tight, and had a punch to it.
These really made bad recordings sound bad, but that didn't hinder me from enjoying them. Something like Manilla Road - Necropolis sounded a little thin/nasal, but I do believe the depiction of the mix was fairly accurate. And then again, from the same album, "Dreams of Eschaton / Epilogue"'s intro with the fairly acoustic guitar picking sounded magnificent. Classical was a treat too.
I really feel like getting these, and am heavily rotating towards that route. Still wish I could try out the Fidelio X2's conveniently, I'm a bit iffy when it comes to ordering from online and returning a product if it's not good, 'cause I'm not sure if I can do that for a reasonable price in Finland (Webhallen carries the Fidelios for 180€ but I've heard a pretty mixed response to their customer service and return policy).
Any Q701 owners here? Do you feel like my description sounds accurate? Would a FiiO E10K change anything other than volume in the sound?

>Budget
450 usd
>Location
Argentina
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Around ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Super ultra high
>Preferred tonal balance
what
>Past headphones
Shitty walmart headphones

I mostly hear ambiental music.

>>55901982
Probably check out the Oppo PM-3, used AH-D5000 and Meze 99 Classics with the XL pads.

>>55889379
Congrats, at least one less soul to fall prey to the HD600 meme.

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>>55890370
I've compared both. My HD800 has been modified with the Super Dupont resonator as per detailed in the Inner Fidelity article.

Honestly they are so close that it's quite difficult to tell them apart in a blind test. Save yourself the money and just get the old HD800 and mod it if necessary.

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>>55894718
Nice CKKIII. I should build this next, I heard it sounds good with the HD800.

>>55893477
What source or amp? I know /hpg/ likes to meme that all amps and DACs sound the same but it's not true at all.

Got a pair of Happy Plugs half price today. How fucked am I?

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Anybody own a pair of Samson SR850? I'm half tempted to get these just on the price tag alone and hear they're not far off from the ATH-M40X?

>>55902588
It's not that they're all the same, it's that you don't get detectable transparency above a certain point that is pretty easy to hit nowadays. Beyond that amps are different but not objectively better within human limits of perception.

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Just got a pair of these that i had forgotten that i ordered.
They sound pretty great for the price, not the most comfortable in ears though.
Still, for 8$ they're worth it.

>>55882040
What's a good audio adapter with a mic plug in that does not produce noise?

>>55902890
Are you asking for a 3.5mm headphone/mic splitter that terminates with another 3.5mm 4-pole or a USB adapter that accepts mic and headphones?

>>55902964
>a USB adapter that accepts mic and headphones?
this one, the ones that I've gotten always seem to have noise when nothing is playing or when there is something playing, it's annoying as hell.

>>55893115
kek, wait for amazon
>>55893477
>falling for the HD800/S meme
kek
>>55894666
Same here, HD650 is my end game. HD800/S are garbage and sound like shit.
>>55895014
Only a 2.5dB increase in bass. I'm a HD600/HD650 fanboy but I dislike the HD598 because it sounds like shit on many sources, on a typical receiver the bass and lower midrange gets boosted by 5-6dB.

>>55902982
Are you plugging it into a laptop or the front panel of a desktop? Those tend to have higher EMI in general or less shielding on their wires.

>>55902995
on my desktop on the back the front panels do not work

>>55902265
Although I won't be going for the HD600 regardless of if they're a meme or not (just a tad too pricy), I still have a very hard time choosing between the Q701 or the X2 ( see >>55901044 ).There's just so many conflicting reports about the X2's. Some say the bass is excellent in both feel and clarity and that the whole can is well balanced, some say they lack a lot of sub-bass (which sounds like a load of horseshit when comparing them to most of the reviews but I've never tried them and the X2 are clearly overhyped so who knows if they're right). I think the Q701 handled bass pretty well when the mixing on the track brought the bass outward but on some tracks the clarity of the bass notes was not very good on some other recordings. I need an all-around good headphone that can handle gaming and music with good clarity. I liked the Q701's but found them fairly harsh at times. Soundstage was pretty damn wide though and I thought the instrument separation was pretty swell and the bass had good impact when needed. Stuff like Daft Punk or Justice felt a bit too tight though. I feel like going for the X2's because of the bass people are reporting - smooth, not too tight or fast, but well detailed (but if this comes out to be bullshit then I'm fucked), but I also feel like getting the Q701's because of the separation, clarity and wide soundstage.

And on top of that, I don't know how to feel about amps or DACs (amp most likely needed for the Q701's but not sure if a DAC is worth it).

>>55903005
Well if the cheap little adapters don't work for you, then the only step up is pretty steep to something like the Creative Sound BlasterX G5.

Alternatively, get a usb audio interface and a real microphone but that might be overkill for you if you're just using it for VOIP and not actual recording.

>>55903103
Q701 is garbage, X2 is shit.

DT880 is the poor man's HD600. If it's too bright, a little EQ can fix it but it isn't the clusterfuck that AKGs headphones are.

So measurements and reviews give me the impression that the HE-400i are worth it. They were also recommended to me here once before. Anyone have any experience with them to confirm or deny this?

>>55903164
o-ok

I really like the design of Beats Solo2 but i also would really like to find an alternative to Beats. So far Bose Soundtrue on-ear seems like the closest thing but there's still a long way to go and I really don't like the colors.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Some people elsewhere were talking up the Fostex T50RP MK3 headphones as some sort of super affordable planar magnetic. I can't justify the cost of something like an LCD for various reasons. Is the $160 for the Fostex a decent entry level option, are they not truly planar headphones, or are they garbage and I am better off saving up for an LCD which is just as much better as the price suggests?

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>>55903164

>>55903359
The T50RP MK3 are pretty good especially for that price. The big draw is that you can easily mod them to be better, and if you're very dedicated you can make them sound brilliant.

>>55903361
>she

>Budget
£200, but willing to go a little higher
>Location
UK
>Source
PC, needs mic.
>Open or closed
Prefer closed but not that bothered.
>Comfort level
Comfy I guess
>Past headphones
Logitech G930

Does anyone even reply to these threads?

>>55903385
....Easily moddable and improvable is a major selling point for me actually, thanks anon.
I'll definitely order a pair and check on what modifications there are.

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>>55895335

You'd get a tube amp because you specifically look for tube distortion which is absent in SS amps. Unlike what /g/ would like you to believe, some distortions are preferable even pleasant to human ears.

Also some designs like the OTL ones can be as linear and low-noise as its SS counterparts.

What are good sidegrades from the HE-400? HD600/650? I'm on a Modi and Vali stack if that helps.

I want something a little more comfortable/lighter.

>>55903806
>Unlike what /g/ would like you to believe, some distortions can be preferable even pleasant to human ears.

FTFY

>>55903103
X2 is really not in the same league as the Q701. I'd suggest holding onto your final judgement until you get the FiiO E10K.

>>55903164
>Q701 is garbage

Nice try shill.

>Budget
£200
>Location
UK, duh.
>Source
Asus H81M-C Motherboard
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
I don't mind sacrificing some build/sound level for comfort
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or a bit more bass heavy
>Past headphones
Superlux HD688B (Very uncomfortable because I never got around to changing the pads)

>>55904094
Just looked on the official specs page for the Asus H81M-C Motherboard it has the 'Realtek® ALC887-VD 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC *2' what ever that means.

Takstar Pro 80 yes or no.

>>55904120
Yes, check amazon and head fi, they look pretty good

>>55903473
Something based on the DT770, probably. MX300 head set, I think the Custom One Pro had an attached mic as well.

>>55902588
>all amps and DACs sound the same
Of course that's not true. There is no basis to say that.

>>55903806
>some distortions are preferable even pleasant to human ears.
Even if you assume than increased distortion, compression, and modulation is preferable at all times for all audio, the nonlinearity and transfer curve is not unique to tube circuits. Duplication can be done with solid state circuitry or in software.

>>55904395
Might buy Kingston Hyper X Cloud then, apparently it's the same drivers but cheaper with a microphone and better warranty. Shame it's gaymur shit though, I just want music.

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>>55904094
Get the hd600 m8. It's mine and my brothers end game and we've tried most 'good' headphones.

Buy it from amazon, If you don't like them you can return them and they will pick it up from your house hassle free. I did the same with the hd650's as a pure test. You can't lose lad.

>>55904469
It's 300 ohms, though
I won't be able to drive that

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I don't know whether or not to get the AKG K240s or the ATH M50Xs.

The AKGs are cheaper but are they worth it? Does anyone have either one of these headphones that can give some insight on them?

>>55904421
If you don't want gamer shit then buy the takstar 2050. They are the original hyper x cloud. Theyre low price and don't look like complete shit. They have very good build quality and sound for a chink phone.

>>55904522
As the old daying goes

If its cold, wear the gold
If its silver, end yourself

>>55904500
They aren't actually that hard to drive despite being 300 ohms. The e10k can drive them very well if you're interested in spending just a little bit more. Even if it takes a while longer it's worth it.

Ignore most things you read here. The hd600's are the best for listening to music, period.

>>55904522
I have the athm50x and I can say I love them use em everyday I don't about the akg but does it have removable cables?

>>55904667
It does have removable cables. I have heard that the AKGs don't have the best bass response and don't get very loud though.

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>>55894718
>>55894771
>>55894776
>>55894784
>amp synergy meme
>listening to your PCB
>that normal amp might get them loud enough but ______ that costs 10x as much really make them shine!

Anyone got jaybird x2? What's the verdict ?

Inb4 wireless headphones meme. I'm an Olympic lifter and wireless is my only option

>>55896754
I heard the bad batch is gone and it was overblown in the first place.

>>55904784
I use a wireless adapter. One of my early setups was to coil the wires up and put the adapter in the knot of my do-rag. There are solutions other than wireless out there if you stop to think about it.

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Would you?

>>55904820
I feel like it's unnecessary.i already have a bunch of over ears and good earbuds at home. I just wanna nice Hassel free headphone that is wireless. When I do olympic lifts my phone flies out of my pocket and takes the headphones with it.

Hey guys, what's your opinion on the ATH-MSR7?

>>55904870
>I feel like it's unnecessary.
If you don't want to come up with a solution other than downgrading that's your choice.

>>55886522
What pads would you recommend? I've owned my k240s for the better part of like two years and my pads are kinda gross...

Stupid question, but what does a headphone amp actually like, do? Does is functionally replace a sound card or do you need both to get good sound? I have a pair of AKGs I use through a normal Denon stereo reciever. Really helpful in switching between my turntable and computer audio. Wish it could overlay the two though...

>>55904469
>It's mine and my brothers end game and we've tried most 'good' headphones.

It's muddy and veiled though. They sound so boring and lifeless, just like you anon.

>>55904960
It loudens whatever audio source you plug into it through whatever headphone you use

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>>55904797
>>55896754
pretty much. a good number of the first batch had glue on the pad removal mechanism, so if you tried to force them off there was the danger of ripping the pads along the seam a bit. the pads can still be removed and so can the glue you just have to be careful. I think it was because they contrasted the assembly to Gibson and they fucked up. so they then sold that contract to another company which doesn't glue the pads. I heard philips basically sold off their headphone division too which is a shame, they were really pushing designs forwards. anyways another problem with the old pads was that the ink used to color the pads would cause a small, oil-like stain if left on paper. but this doesn't seem to happen with any other material, so it's not going to stain your skin or desk or whatever, it probably had to do with picking up oils from your face or something. so the new ones also have new velour pads. I like the velour of the old ones better myself, the little "hairs" are longer and they look darker, generally have a more plush feel. the new ones are your standard velour, ala sennehiser or beyer, not cheap but nothing new.

tl;dr - new X2's are completely fine and cheaper besides. the current price is what used to be the sale price.

>>55905000
Can't most motherboards support plenty of current for any set of headphones you have? I've never complained that my headphones don't get loud enough.

I just kind of assumed it did something like enhance audio quality or offered some kind of equalizer.

>>55904923
That's the thing. I'm asking how good jaybirds are. Regardless I'm gonna need earbuds cuz no way I'm taking my 500 dollar cans to the gym.


So are jaybirds that bad ?

>>55905043
>So are jaybirds that bad ?
In my opinion all wireless headphones are bad. At best they can only get to audio quality as good as wired and even in those cases there are numerous drawbacks. That's why the closest compromise I accepted was a wireless adapter.

>>55905037
It depends on impedance. Some motherboards have built in amps and detect impedance so they work with everything. Some don't and only work with lower impedance, which is most of the modern cans anyways. The only cans I know that had high impedance were sennheiser G1s

>>55904977
If you want to call them veiled compared to say...let me take a wild guess, the 702 then I could see where you're coming from. The fact is that the hd600 signature is amazing for nearly every genre of music.

You own the 702's don't you.

>>55904960
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/ultimate-headphone-guide-articles-what-headphone-amplifier-and-why-do-i-need-one

>>55897290
they're very close in build, which is why doing the simple foam mod turns a 558 into a 598. I would not recommend the 518, it shares the same driver as the others but the cup design amplifies all the bad points of the 558 and it's very hard to mod out. you basically have to cut out the entire rear of the cup to make it more open.

>>55900266
contender for best reasonably priced headphone

>>55903164
lol

>>55903103
>>55901044
got amazon in finland? if it's anything like the US just make sure it's being sold by amazon and returns are very lenient. you can return for any reason and 99% of the time they'll pay return shipping. all you have to do is put them back in the box, tape it up, print out the shipping label and take it to your equivalent of the UPS store or the mail office or whatever.

about the headphones, if you feel the q701's bass punch is where you like it, stick with it. if you want something fuller sounding, warmer, more bass, less lean, get the x2. like you were saying the upper mids on the q701 can make some parts of bad recording harsh sounding. but honestly the x2 also has some highs graininess that some people don't like. if you want smooth get an hd600, you just might find it too smooth on closer listening.

>>55902835
iirc they're not like the m40x, it's basically a 668b with the 681 headband and velour pads with a fixed cable instead of the detachable system on the 668b.

Ive mistakenly bought the UrbaniteXLs (seems liks a cheaper version of Beats) and now Im in the process of returning them. Im going to get my money back or around 180 dollars. What Headphones should I buy now? I mainly listen to Classical Rock, Blues and Jazz, plus a lil bit of classical music. Im not a big fan of EDM or Hip hop . I wanna hear that crisp sound of an electric guitar, i wanna feel like Im in a concert. I want to hear every lil detail.

>>55905267
Nah, if I wanted to order something I'd probably order it from Germany's Amazon. The X2's are 239€ there - in the Swedish Webhallen store, they're 189€ including shipping. That's a 50€ extra right there.
I put in an email to Webhallen about their return policy regarding headphones, hopefully they can give me a clear answer.
Both headphones would definitely be an improvement ("rocking" the Siberia V2's right now, yuck), but it's very hard to tell which sound signature is more for me. I really need to try the X2's out.
My prediction would be that the X2 has a bit better center imaging but will definitely lose in soundstage width, but has a fairly well balanced sound with a decay that would fit most electronic music well. I agree with one Head-Fi reviewer in the fact that the Q701's have a pretty fast decay - very evident when listening to, for example, Daft Punk's Aerodynamic. The bass doesn't linger around - it hits the note with a punch but that's it. It won't cover your head with it.
I also would guess that Q701 will be better for instrument separation and that it has better clarity, but the X2's would be more forgiving for worse sources and mixes and more flexible for general multimedia (movies, games, YouTube videos and the like).
I really would like to get them both to be honest, but right now I just gotta make a decision on one pair only and I haven't even heard the other one yet so I'm very hesitant right now. X2's would be much easier to drive, so that's a plus, but I don't think the AKG's would be THAT hard. I think a FiiO E10K would suffice well and maybe later on upgrade to O2 or Schiit if I felt like it.

>>55905336
Q701/K702

>>55905395
And HD600 is a tad too expensive for me (they go for around 300€).