Programming languages ranking thread (Based on your opinion)

no scripting language should ever be considered "good"

>>55864610
Reasoning? I find some scripting languages to be extremely useful, thus my listing.

>>55864584
>JS
>Good
I've been reading EMACScript standard specifications for the last few days and holy mother of fuck, it has to be the worst clusterfuck of terrible design ever conceived. I swear to God I'll never bash PHP again as it's the definition of sanity and consistency when compared to JS.

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>JavasScript(HTML5)

>>55864649
I think OP means when using JavaScript for browser things, and not Nodejs.

>>55864639
*ECMAScript, obviously.

>>55864617
having a compile error is now is better than a runtime error later

>>55864584

Good: Ruby, Rust, Erlang, Elm, Scheme, Clojure, SQL

Decent: Java, C, C#, Python, Perl, VBA, JS

Bad: C++, PHP, Lua, Go, Swift

>>55864790
>VBA
>Decent

kek

>>55864584
Good: Whatever I use

Cuck: Whatever you use

>>55864831

I think VBA is a pretty underrated langauge..

-you have easy access to the Win APIs:

Private Declare Function GetTickCount Lib "kernel32" () As Long

-you can pipe data arround from excel to access to powerpoint to outlook.. and back again

-super easy I/O and file handling:

sTxt = InputBox("Please enter file name:")
If sTxt = "" Then 
  Exit Sub
else
  Kill sTxt
end if

-it ships with every M$ Office pruduct, inlucing a (half-decent) GUI, debugger, compiler and creating user interfaces with Excel is pretty easy, since you basically have a WYSIWYG editor

>>55864584
>Good: JavaScript
opinion discarded

GOD TIER

>Haskell
>Erlang

TOP TIER
>C++
>C
>SQL

ALRIGHT TIER

>Python (pronounced: Py-fawn)
>Java
>MATLAB
>Swift

SHIT TIER

>PHP
>VBA
>C#

KEKOLD TIER

>Javascript

>>55864948

VBA is functionally fine, but it's a pain in the ass to read and maintain. It's so verbose that reading it make you mentally fatigued and it has some ass-backwards ways of doing things compared to the way other programming languages do shit. Arrays, for example.

>>55865022
>Kekold tier
>JS

But JS is the most popular and sought after language for employment, it's literally the least c uck language right now.

top tier: C
decent tier: Perl, Python
pajeet tier: Java, PHP
shit tier: Javascript

>>55865167
>Shit-tier language designed in literally 10 days becomes the only one adopted by all browsers because of the hurry it was shipped in.
>Web development, shit-tier of programming, becomes popular and sought after.
>JS becomes a popular and sought after, double-shit-tier language.
>Some web dev faggots decide it's a good idea to implement JS outside of browser environment as a general-purpose language because it's the only thing they're familiar with.
>Some shit startups fall for the meme because muh innovation.
>Real programmers on a suicide watch.

>>55864584

Good: c, c++, python, racket, clojure
Ok, tier: java, javascript (es6), scala
Fad tier: R, perl

I cannot think of any reason to use R except "Everyone is using it".

>>55865825

You sound mad, friendo..

Let me write you a JS library with 5 lines to cheer you up.. I'll call it:
>uppr.js

:)

>>55865825
Most 'real' programmers are as garbage as web developers to be honest.

>>55866076
When does one become a 'real' programmer?

>>55864584
Good: C, Golang, Erlang, Fortran, Ada, Haskell, Assembly
Each fills a niche. C has performance and compatibility, Golang has its absolute simplicity, Erlang has its fucking awesome VM, FORTRAN is fast as fuck, Ada is the definition of safe, and Haskell allows for extensive functional programming.

Okay: Lua, Swift, C#, Python
Lua is nice, but lacks a decent standard library, Swift is a cool language, but is too Apple-centric right now, C# is MS-Java but better, and Python is just a bit too weird for me.

Awful: C++, Java, PHP, JavaScript
150-line error messages ARE NOT COOL. Java because oracle doesn't give a damn about security, and also the BeanFactoryBeanBeanSingletonAbstractBeanFactoryBean naming scheme gets annoying. PHP. JavaScript because the community trues to shoehorn everything in to the language.

Best: C and Bash
Ok: Python
Shit: the rest

>>55866124

But senpai, Python was invented as replacement for bash..

my opinion: people who rank programming languages have no idea what programming languages are used for

>>55866090
When they know algorithms and datastructures..lang doesn't matter. So these faggots talking about JS devs aren't simply due to the lang, probably aren't real programmers.

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GOD TIER: bash

Because fuck you.

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>>55866094
>PHP.

>>55864584
>Good
C
>Shit
Not C

God tier : ASM, C,C++

Good tier : C#


Rest : trash

>>55864584
Coffeescript, while now outdated thanks to ES6, is very terse and easy to read. The heavy use of whitespace and arrow functions makes for nice code

>>55866090
When he's formally trained in a language that :
1) wasn't designed to animate snowflakes on web pages,
2) isn't a clusterfuck of bad, inconsistend design decisions waiting to blow up in your fucking face at runtime,
3) doesn't require gigantic libraries the sole purpose of which is covering, fixing or abstracting away as much of the core language's ugliness as possible.

>>55866166
Just because you can implement any algorithm in any Turing-complete language doesn't mean you should.

>>55866471
T...that's not my point dude.

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>>55864584
>JavaScript (node)
>JavaScript (HTML)
u wot m8?????

>>55864790
>VBA decent
>C++ bad

Wew lad

>>55866166
cool story bro did you just read your first algorithms book

Is anyone going to make a /wdg/ thread already?

>>55864948
Fuck off microshit shill

>>55864584
What's the coolest thing I can build with JavaScript?

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Hey i was wondering what skills are absolutely necessary for a front end web job i know
JS,Jquery,ajax,html5,CSS3,angular & node.
i'm thinking mySQL, php || ruby || python.

>>55867118
Implement a recursive string reverse with no calls to stdlib.

>>55867824
> Hey i was wondering what skills are absolutely necessary for a front end web
Understanding how HTTP works. 95% of "web devs" have never read RFC 2616. Don't be one of them.

>i'm thinking mySQL, php || ruby || python.
Neither of those is used in front end.

>>55864584
All this shows is that you don't know shit about programming languages and even less about type systems.

>>55868163
thanks never heard of RFC 2616, also most front end job postings has at least one server language

>>55864584
Can I get a non-autistic answer as to why Java is considered so bad?

>>55867824

React.js redux and flux and u will get hired no matter how autistic you are

>>55868347
lol thanks

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>>55864584
Autismo:
ColdFusion, F#, autoIT

Pascal, you fucks.

>>55868320
>forced OOP
>no operator overloading
>no ability to pass primitive types by reference
>popular among bad programmers

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>>55864584
Glorious master race tier: C++

Fossilized polished turd tier: C, Fortran, Python

Soft and mushy with bits of corn tier: Java, PHP

Sloppy wet diarrhea tier: Ruby, Haskell, Lisp

Bloody chunks floating in digestive fluid tier: Javascript

SJW tier: Rust

>C++
>good

>>55868382
My first job out of college was working on z/OS assembly.

From there I went to JCL (job control language) -> Coldfusion -> PHP/Coldfusion -> Coldfusion/Java/C# -> C# -> C#/PHP -> PHP/objective-c -> objective-c/javascript -> c#(xamerin)/javascript -> c#(xamerin)/javascript/coldfusion

There are 3 lessons from this post

1) I am old and the early 00's were amazing
2) Coldfusion is like fucking herpes, it doesn't go away
3) You can make a LOT of money knowing a dead language. Like seriously, I have too much money. I have "fuck you" money.

>>55867442
It's single threaded and synchronous so anything that isn't very taxing, like web apps.

>>55865044
>Arrays, for example.
This. Having to resize arrays manually is a good way to tell a scripting language is shit.
Another good one is to check if there is a strict/strong/safe mode.

However, appart from the language itself, VBA isn't that bad.

Python

C is archaic as fuck, why does anyone still use it for average tasks?

>>55871418
Because the alternatives, Zig or Rust aren't there yet.

>>55864584
>Autism: PHP, Java

"Ugly, but get's the job done" is about as far from autism as you can get. Haskell might be a conceptually brilliant language, and if everyone used it, the world might be a better place.

However, it lacks good tooling and good DOCUMENTED libraries (no, a type signature does not come close to being proper documentation). It is hard to get work done quickly or at all because of these things.

Unlike most people here, I have actually tried to use Haskell to develop a numerical model. I gave up on it because of the lack of documentation. It seemed that there were libraries with the things I needed, but I'd be damned if I could figure out how to use them.

Python libaries, especially numerical ones, have amazing documentation. C++ ones are also really good, generally speaking. Industrial laguages seem to be the go-tos for getting shit done, unsurprisingly.

>>55864584
My ranking:
>Good
C, Lua, C#, Go
>Decent
C++, TypeScript, Haskell, PHP7
>Bad
Java, JavaScript, PHP
>Autism
Mercury, Python
>Good but not really general purpose / unusable
Erlang (and Elixir), DynAsm, matlab, fortran, fasm
>Shit AND not general purpose
GDScript

Wtf are you all shitting about??
Fucking programming languages? FUCK THAT , USE WHAT U LIKE

DO U REALIZE THAT 666 + 666 + 666 + 6 + 6 + 6 = 2016???????????

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people UNIRONICALLY do not realize that 2*(2*5)3 + 2*2*2*2 = 2016

>>55866471
>3) doesn't require gigantic libraries the sole purpose of which is covering, fixing or abstracting away as much of the core language's ugliness as possible.

So everything above asm?

Btw you sound like an enormous faggot

>>55869188
What are callbacks and promises?