>tfw I currently have no upgrade path other than to suck

>>55833852
>needing to upgrade when you have a 290
stop being a consumerist cuck your card is fine for the next few more years

>>55833852
i'm riding my 770 into the ground, bruv. if you are only using 1080p, just stick with the 290

>>55833852
There's literally nothing wrong with a 290 and won't be in the near future. Overclock it more if you're bored.

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>>55833852
Go team green because DX12+Vulkan is a meme

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Hawaii will last until the ants take over the planet.

I have a 670, and I can get a second one for €100, and I checked benchmarks and SLi 670 is much faster than a 480.

I think I'll just cough up the cash for an overpriced 1070

buying nvidia is the equivalent of having a black man coming over to your house, ass rape you then hog tying you up while raping your wife.

then stealing the tv as he leaves and your wife laying there salivating for more brutal bbc.

>>55834687
what "AMD" card should I upgrade to then? see >>55834618

>>55834718
Vega

>>55834718
either wait for vega or try out dual 480's in crossfire.

i just upgraded to dual 480's myself from my 660 ti. just waiting for them to ship from amazon.

always wanted to try multi-card and the 480's are cheap.

pascal is currently plagued by to many problems that reviewers are purposely ignoring.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/939358/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-flickering-issue/
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/941579/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-high-dpc-latency-and-stuttering/
http://www.overclock.net/t/1605618/ongoing-pascal-latency-problems-hotfix-doesnt-work-for-everyone

even the hotfix driver didn't fix the latency and stuttering issue:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/951723/geforce-drivers/announcing-geforce-hotfix-driver-368-95/

pascal is just maxwell on a shrunken node too. its nothing special:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1607123/adoredtv-pascal-vs-maxwell-at-same-clockspeeds-same-flops-1080-vs-980-ti

>>55834245
"Bans". Oh wow.

>>55834813
>>55834835
>Vega
nonexistant
>dual 480
way too expensive (more than 1x 1070)

>>55834234
>a meme

So a viral phenomenon that evolves by natural selection, analogous to biological evolution? Neat. That doesn't sound so bad.

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>>55833852
>tfw you bought a gtx 980 for $200

>>55834918
>nonexistant
What hot new releases do you need to play that a 290 can't handle before Vega is released? Deus Ex and Battlefield will run great on AMD cards due to being DX12 and there's fuck all else of value coming out this year in the AAA graphicsfest sector.

>>55835031
>290
read again. I'm >>55834618

also, I think I'll just go for a €300-€350 980Ti

>>55834918
then wait you retard, hell if you wanted to you could wait for navi then upgrade

>>55835045
>buying old nvidia cards
that thing is already on legacy drivers

>>55835045
>buying old Nvidia cards
You people never learn. Ditching my 780 a few weeks ago was a fucking joy.

>>55835054
>wait
I can't. I want to play Witcher 3, and I can only play it at 60fps on everything on minimum (@1080p, but my main monitor is 1440p), and the game looks like shit

>>55835045
Buying a 480 would be a massive upgrade from a 670

>>55833852
>he doesnt have the Vapor X

how does it feel being so bad?

>>55835090
nope. buying a second 670 = way faster than 480, and way cheaper.

>mfw i have a 760 suffering with 3 monitors
>thing is suffering trying to play games on 2560x1080
>never goes idle cause 3 monitors
>theres no game interesting enough to make me upgrade

Guess im waiting until black friday or something

>>55835142
>>theres no game interesting enough to make me upgrade
>what is Witcher 3

>>55834061
>bruv
GTFO seriously.

>>55835045
Buy a Fury Nitro for the same money. You'll be laughing for the next few years with all the DX12/Vulkan releases, whereas Futuremark have confirmed that Maxwell has asynchronous compute disabled at a driver level. It'll also do The Witcher 3 at 1080p/60fps on Ultra like you want.

>>55835129
>buying a second 670 = way faster than 480
I don't know what you've been reading, but a single 970 is faster than 670 SLI and a 480 is faster than a 970. SLI is also a barely-supported mess these days, with shit scaling and completely unsupported in DX12/Vulkan.

>>55834234
There are 8 games I want there, not taking the piss either.

>>55833852
You don't need to upgrade.
Your card will still be fine by the time Vega arrives

>>55835129
I wouldnt recommoned going sli or crossfire regardless of what amd or nvidia fanboys tell you. Its not worth it
Just sell your 670 for and use the money for a better card

>>55835169
>1080p
I DON'T want to game at 1080p. I have 1440p monitor and a 1080p TV. I game on my monitor, and I'm not going to buy a gpu for 1080p shit.

>>55835169
>I don't know what you've been reading, but a single 970 is faster than 670 SLI and a 480 is faster than a 970.
nope.

>>55835129
the 480 is already way more powerful than a 960 (which is more powerful than a 670), besides dual gpus that arent flagship level have always kindof been shit

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1/3

>>55833852
I have this exact card and see no reason to upgrade anytime soon.

Stop pissing money away OP.

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>>55835223
2/3

>>55834061
Same, but I just got a 24" 1440 monitor since my old monitor was only 20" 1600x900. It helps that I mostly play older games, but it would be nice to max out Bannerlord and HL3. Holding out for Cyber Monday.

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>>55835081
>Witcher 3
> 60fps on everything on minimum (@1080p,
Bait.
My 380x which is a rebrand of 7970 handles it well enough on Ultra.
290x is supposed to be over the top for Ultra witcher.

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>>55835201
you would need more than perfect scaling for a 670 or 760 to even match a 480

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>>55835246
3/3

>>55835223
>>55835246
>outdated graphs
see >>55835260

>>55835263
I hate to be that guy but check what their run is first to see how they test it since each place has their own methodology

>>55835255
ffs, I'm this guy: >>55834618 >>55835045
>>55835081

>>55835201
>I DON'T want to game at 1080p. I have 1440p monitor
Then you're in luck, because a Fury is even closer to a 980 Ti at 1440p than it is at 1080p.

>nope
Sorry, yes.

>>55835223
>>55835246
Old, irrelevant games where 2GB VRAM still held up. It doesn't in [current year]. Only a retard would be considering 670 SLI as a viable option. Please come back and post about your worthless stutterfest if you do, as I really want to laugh at you.

>>55835263
>>55835246
>>55835223
all outdated shit from different sources
getting a 480 is still the best bet

>>55835303
Dont listen to him he's an imposter im the 670 guy

>>55835303
>>55835334
Dual 2gb gpus will always be a massive stutterfest
Put some serious consideration into one of the aib 480s

>>55835334
top lel, my long lost twin brother!

>>55835315
the Fury is way more expensive than a 980Ti for me.

>>55835255
the 380x was a new gpu on 3rd generation GCN, it wasnt a rebrand

>>55835386
Funny thing is I actually upgraded from a mini 670 to a 980 so I kinda know where you are coming from

>>55833852
Why the fuck would you need an upgrade from that?

I'm on a damn GTX 770 and nothing has come out that's really giving it a challenge or making gaming impossible at 1080p.

As far as I'm concerned, here are some of the most common sense guidelines to graphics and upgrades.

1) buying upper tier graphics cards is a waste of money unless you are aiming to game above 1080p. (But that's another can of worms entirely.) A mid to mid-high range card will always be a better investment because prices will fall faster on those, enabling a second one, and will become outdated almost the same rate as the upper tier cards. (So is an extra 100 dollars for 5-10 more frames worth it if you are still hitting 60 on most things? No)

2) Don't upgrade until you are unable to comfortably play something at all that you want to. Unless you are an autist, I define that level at sub 35at 1080 on high. I've found that to be once every three-four cycles. Your mileage my vary.

3) nVidia vs AMD shitposting is dumb. Pick whichever seems like the least shitty and move on. Who actually gets off on whether or not they use AMD or nVidia? Gas yourselves.

4) It's worth paying extra for better cooling. You get better OC options, cooler temps, and will usually lead to better longevity.

5) Video games are shit right now anyways, take the money and spend it on books

>>55835418
I do have to say, the 670 has lasted me a long fucking while. good shit. right now I'm haggling a 980Ti for €300 which is really good deal.

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>>55834895

Its a shoop of this picture (original sauce unknown).

>>55835427
Not bad I got my second hand 980 SC for 200 dollars. The guy was asking 300 and I offered him 200. He didnt even haggle he just said okay and handed it to me.
I managed to hit 1400mhz with it, though now that i have it I wish it had an extra 2 gigs of vram.

>>55835425
Thank you. Building my first computer and am undecided on 1080/1440 for when I get my 480 Nitro. While I could replace the monitor when I replace the Nitro, I would rather wait to do that until I replace the card that is used to replace the Nitro.

In your opinion, what do?
6600k/16GB

>>55835427
980 ti got moved to legacy recently, i wouldn't be surprised if it falls behind the fury in the next 6 months

>>55835522
>le gimp driver
I saw considerable testing of driver versions, and the effect is insignificant

>>55835536
its not gimping its nvidia isn't optimizing for maxwell anymore

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>>55835045

>>55833852
unless you want to go beyond 72 fps at 1440p you don't need to go higher than 390

>>55835522
Maxwell architecture came out 26 months ago. So while it is sad everything enters legacy support eventually.
Also I dont think nvidia can squeeze any more performance out of maxwell so thats why the moved it into legacy, but im sure they wont gimp it

>>55835555
so what? I'll sell the 980Ti when there's a real GPU release, not like the cancer that is pascal and polaris.

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I was dead set on a 480 but just bought a 1060 because the 480 has been sold out practically since launch and the aftermarket cards are taking forever.

I haven't owned an Nvidia card since the 9800gt.

This is the first x60 in some time that was a real head-turner so fuck it.

>>55835599
>but im sure they wont gimp it
hm, I heard this before
oh yeah that's what 780 owners kept saying first 6 months after 900s release

>>55835606
>>55835599
Lol it looked like we were samefaging autists so I took my name off

>>55835504
Sorta depends. If you're absolutely committed to 1440p SOMEWHERE down the line, just get the card and pay for a monitor later if yours is good enough. Even if you're not all that committed, you could just get the card now and use it with your current setup, then decide on 1080 or 1440 later.

Personal take - 1440p is great for monitors larger than 24 inches, but you don't get a whole lot out of it in cases of 3D renders and what not on a smaller screen. Text rendering is awesome because of the DPI increase, but vidya and modeling doesn't take advantage of it all that much. Diminishing returns, you know?

but I'm sure there is one anon who is gonna come in and tell me how wrong I am in an effort to justify his purchase so it's really just my opinion (^:

>>55835650
do you even have 1440p monitor? it is noticeable step up from 1080 in games

>>55835642
They didnt gimp it the 780 performs around the same today as it did the month before the maxwell launch.
You could make the argument however that they never fully optomized it to get the max performance

>>55835690
intentionally neglecting = gimping

help.

1070 founders edition €370
Gigabyte 980Ti €300

what do? I'm leaning towards the 980Ti

>>55835650
Thanks. No fucking idea when I'll get my hands on that Nitro. Almost considering a 1060 because I'm dying to play DOOM, but I'll probably pick up a 960 from BestBuy tomorrow and return it after a week and a half. As for my monitor, it's an old 20" vga Acer so probably can't even hook up to the 960 anyways.

I was considering being a 120/144Hz fag too if I went 1080 because the high fps I could get in most games with the rx480. Not sure if it's a good idea, someone said those screens are mainly for xPROx competitive players.

>>55835690

Pick your poison

1) AMD has no drivers so kepler is being gimped

2) Kepler isn't being gimped by Nvidia but its a shit architecture given the gains GCN has made.

Some lad is offering me his r9 380 for 150usd. Yes or no?
Should I wait for the rx 470?
I plan to keep playing games on 1080p.
Still using a 7870...

>>55835727
>founders edition

Don't be a ponce.

>>55834234
Vulkan is a meme.
>putting Talos Principle in the list and expect to be taken seriously

>>55835763
Second.
At least get an AIB.

>have a Sapphire 270X
>Asus GTX 980 went on sale for $350 (second cheapest is $450)
>also poor as fuck

Please prevent me from pulling the trigger on this. I don't want to starve in two months time because of a graphics card.

It's like AMD WANTS people to buy nvidia.

They released a $300 graphic card, that doesn't give much of an edge in the newest games.
Let's be realistic, the real price of the aftermarket 480s is $300 and over - be it Devil, Nitro+ or XFX Black.

The way it went they said it will be cheaper, closer to 980 in performance and a crossfire will beat 1080 for way less money.

Right now I want to buy a good card that will last me 4-5 years. 480 won't cut it, because it's already giving 50-60 fps in last year's games.

The only radeon way would be buying a crossfire. For $600 bucks. Almost the price of a single 1080.

So the only answer in the current market is 1070. Don't buy AMD, just wait until September and buy a 1070 only for a $100 more.

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>>55835763
€370 versus a non-founders edition of €470
versus Gigabyte Windforce 980Ti for €300

>>55835775
Saw a Fury X on Newegg for $400, goyim!

>>55835781
980ti

>>55835813
why? the 1070 does beat it in every game, even the reference cuck

>>55835779
Why not add a second 480 down the road?
Why not?
I'm going pooinloo on principle, fuck Nvidia.
>inb4 poorfag

>>55835756
>Should I wait for the rx 470?
yeah, judging by specs it looks good, it will be only 15-17% slower than 480
msrp what 150?

>>55835827
>msrp
none of the fucking cards are available for the msrp, not AMD and not Nvidia's shit. at least not in western europe

>>55835775
the XFX fury x is $400

Is GTX 750 Ti an outdated card?

>>55835822
>the 1070 does beat it in every game
Not really.

Even then, they're both generally within 5 frames of each other +/-.

Is 5fps worth 70 bucks and a faggy logo on the card?

>>55835806
>>55835849
Newegg doesn't ship to my side of yurop. Also, the price for a Fury X is about the same as a GTX 980 here.

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reference 1070 €370 versus a non-founders edition of €470

versus Gigabyte Windforce 980Ti for €300

what do? I'm about to close the deal on the 980Ti

>>55835708
No gimping is when they actively lower the performance of a product which they dont do.
Nvidias driver team however are lazy compared to amd

>>55835842
It's all kind of piss taking, I'd gladly take the rx 480 AIB if it wasn't ridiculously priced.

>>55835890
980ti will last you 2-3 years if you're into playing AAA gaming at full 60 fps or greater with resolutions higher than 1080p

>still being this much of an Autistic Meme Drone

What for?

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>>55835919
indeed. pic related, look at the cheapest 480 I can get, and then remember, I can buy a 980Ti for €300 used

>>55835884

A fury x murders a 980.

>>55836000
I'm a retard, I looked at the price of the Fury which is the same as a GTX 980. Fury X is about twice that.

>>55835982
So then I'm stuck waiting even longer than I thought, or getting a 1060 that may piss itself DX 12 wise, or power thirsty AIB 480 for the same price.

The only RX 480 I'd get is the Gigabyte UK RMA puts my mind at ease.

Why is the supply for the 1060 and 480 so shit? They're constantly out of stock everywhere.

>>55836057
because everyone is getting assraped by AMD and Nvidia

>>55836057
Nvidia is having manufacturing problems. The only card in stock is the 1070 and that's because it's being sold at minimum 20% over MSRP.

AMD is just being AMD.

>>55836092
just imagine how cuck'd everyone will be when the new HBM cards get "released"

>>55836092
The mark-up on some of them is insane.
>Check Newegg
>1060 for $329
>Only 480 in stock is sold by some third party supplier for $499 US DOLLARS

>>55836066
Dubs confirm.
>>55836092
Poor AMD, they borked the launch. I feel for them because they're the underdog and have to bust their asses just to stay alive.

>>55836141
That $329 is the right price (if you're talking about the ASUS Strix OC). It's just an overpriced card.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/

good fucking luck ever finding a AIB in stock tho
newegg faggots didn't include Nitro in the description of the one I wanted, only said "NT" in the item description so I missed it of course as it wasn't searchable.

sad fap.

>>55836144
Blame the miners.
Shitcoin mining has been killing AMD for years.
Why don't they block the mining option somehow?

>>55836170
That might have been the one. I don't know what they're thinking with that. It's not really a budget card at that point.

>>55833852
You mean 490

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>>55836230

>>55836262
How am I wrong?

The fuckers are buying out all the cards, run them overclocked 24/7 until they fry after a month, then RMA them and do the same with the new ones.

All while average customers rarely see any new radeon models in stock and buy nvidia.

That's how I bought my 1070. Thank the mining retards for disappearing market share.

>>55836299
>Why don't they block the mining option somehow?

GTX 750 Ti 117€
GTX 970 300€
What would you pick for playing oldish fps games at Full HD?

>>55836329
none. buy a better card used for €300.

>>55836329
RX 470

>>55836327
They can embed the function into the drive. It's not hard to detect that the card is decoding repetative chainblocks instead of running vidya or encoding video.

>>55836329

Define oldish.

Also: never buy potato unless you really know what you are doing.

>>55836299
He means it's impossible to block them from mining.

>>55836352
Even if they could, do you think it would look good if they intentionally prevented people from using their cards to do certain things?

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>>55836352
>he wants companies to tell him what he's allowed to do with his own hardware
you are truly a cuck.

>>55836351
>>55836344
I'm not interested in AMD.

>>55836353
Oldish like TF2, Chivalry Medieval Warfare, CS:GO. I mean, fps games that don't have very high requirements.
Why wouldn't a potato be good for playing these kinds of games?

>>55836373
>>55836377

They will look bad if they don't have any market share. Radeon is almost dead as it is.

>>55836399
>none. buy a better card used for €300.
>I'm not interested in AMD.
are you retarded? who mentioned AMD? I'm paying €300 for a 980Ti

>>55836399

>Why wouldn't a potato be good for playing these kinds of games?

There is a difference between using potato to get 60fps at low and using a decent gpu to get 60fps lock at high/ultra.

>>55836431
GTX 750 Ti can run the games I'm talking about at a great framerate at high/ultra settings.

>>55836480

Then why are you asking here? You've clearly talked yourself into the 750ti.

Nvidia's gonna wreck AMD's shit in Vulkan/DX12 when its actually relevant

AMD makes their cards "futureproof" because their curry consumers are too poor to get a new gpu every 1-2 years

>>55833852
Nvidia is the industry standard, if anything supporting AMD is holding the industry back by splitting standards.

If AMD want to be actually competitive they should suck it up and pay licence fees to Nvidia.

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>>55836505

>Nvidia's gonna wreck AMD's shit in Vulkan/DX12 when its actually relevant

Oh shit, its like i'm browsing /g/ in 2015.

>"ahaha just you wait AMDrones, DX12 will finally kill your cards off!"

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>>55836505
>AMD makes their cards "futureproof" because their curry consumers are too poor to get a new gpu every 1-2 years

I don't understand /g/.

>Apple tries to railroad their consumers into upgrading every 2 years
>/g/ loses their shit
>Nvidia does the same thing
>lol Gold Standard, lads, you're just poor

>>55836607
>what are shills

>>55836639

Roughly 80% of /g/'s posters? Now remind me again roughly what market share does Nvidia have? I am curious if there is a correlation.

>>55836505
>implying anyone but an enthusiast should have to buy a new card every 1-2 years
You sound like my faggot cousin that drops $2k on a MBP every other year so he can have a faster machine for Kikebook. I'm just stopping short of a kys but come on man don't be like that.

>>55835868
as of two years ago

>>55835868
It came out 26 months ago and even then the amd equivilant performed better

>>55836932
What is the amd equivalent?

>>55837031
7770

>>55836571
You do understand that DX12 options like async require the game developers to actually use it?

>>55836607
>>Apple tries to railroad their consumers into upgrading every 2 years
How does Apple "railroad" their consumers into upgrading?

>>55834835
You fucking kidding me. I assure you you will run into more problems with dual 480 than a single 1080

>>55837122
lul 7770 is btfo'd by the 750ti.

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>>55837286
7770 outperforms even the GTX 950

>>55837232
Are you saying developers are using Direct X 11 even though they could still be using 10? Madmen.

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>>55837336
>>>>>gpu boss
nigger are you retarded?

>>55835045
>300€ 980TI
Where?

>>55837381
What game was used? Or is it an nvidia benchmark? Becase it's clearly fake. It states than R7 265 is 16% faster than 750ti, but R7 265 is only 10% faster than R7 260x, which is the rebranded 7770.

So according to your own chart 7770 should be 6% faster than 750ti.

>>55837277
not really

>>55837122
I can get it new for 74€ from Ebay. The seller sounds fishy though.

>>55837541
Get the factory overclock for about the same price - R7 260x.

>>55837488

You do realise how old that chart is right? Given the most recent card on that chart is the 750ti itself the chart is best part of 2 years old.

>>55834835
even after those issues nvidia drones still jizz all over nvidia.

high latency and stuttering AND flickering on the desktop AFTER TWO MONTHS, since the day of release of pascal, a failed hotfix driver and still jizz all over nvidia.

nvidia cannot do any wrong in the eyes of these drones.

and yet if amd releases a driver that causes flickering in a game or two nvidia drones go haywire and proclaim amd to be absolute garbage and the worst thing since hitler.

i really don't know what nvidia does to lure such a loyal, idiotic following.

whats more bizarre is the individual who wants to sli 2GB 670's. 2GB of vram in 2016 because he actually thinks that would be faster than a single 480. 670's barely match a single 970 on a good day and any game from 2015 and onward will choke, terribly on 2gb of ram.

i don't get it.

>>55837558
It costs more than the 750ti here.

>>55837590
Doesn't really matter. the original 7770 bios pooped itself in artificial benchmarks, but outperformed everything in games. That's why all game benchmarks favor 7770.
The 260x bios fixed that though.

>>55835902
this level of rational to defend nvidia is mind blowing.

>>55837617
this exactly

nvidia's marketing team has done wonders to brainwash such a loyal fan base.

>>55837232
and there isn't a game so far that doesn't use it.

all new games coming out will be using it as well such as battlefield 1 and mankind divided.

the new civ game will be using it extensively along with multi-gpu support.

>>55837680
>and there isn't a game so far that doesn't use it.
dx12 that is

async is the new tessellation. it will be tossed into everything.

>>55837649

>nvidia's marketing team has done wonders to brainwash such a loyal fan base.

After them claiming full DX12 support via maxwell and actualy DX12 benchmarkiong generally showing AMD murdering Nvidia the tide is (slowly) turning. Doom was quite a blow as before that vulkan was relatively obscure for normies (talos is pretty obscure in general and the vulkan path for dota2 is little known outside of phoronix's testing).

>>55837694

>async is the new tessellation. it will be tossed into everything.

You should stop posting about things you don't understand.

>>55837488
Anon, every game benched by TPU is included in that graph, hence the name. Secondly, hd7770 has 640 cores, r7 260 has 768, r7 260x 896 and r7 265 has 1024. AMD DID rebrand the 7770 as r7 250x.

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>>55837751
You're talking out of your ass.

>>55835021
how

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>>55837789

>7990
>rebranded as 290

Thats some top tier dipshittery right there.

>>55837789
How about you actually look upon every card? Check here for the 7000 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series and here for the 200 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_Rx_200_series#Radeon_R7_250 and compare them lol.

>>55835169
>480 is faster than a 970

maybe if the 480 is max OCed and the 970 is at reference clocks, the 970 is faster in every other scenario.

>all those people shilling hard
let me give you a real advice it depends on your cache+what type of games+what resolution+graphic settings, you got dat dough go highest performing card (as of now GTX 1080) if not well then wellcome to the real world.
Never fall for Multi GPU meme barely any Devs support that and until DX12 and/or becomes normie enough it's shit was shit will be shit.
Decide want 2K performance with high settings go GTX 1080, GTX 1070, Fury X/Nano, GTX 980ti or R9 390X all of those are good don't have enough money then tough tits either lower the setting for higher FPS or higher graphics with lower FPS

>>55837365
>Are you saying developers are using Direct X 11 even though they could still be using 10?
No. How the hell did you get that from what was posted?

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>>55837401
some fag who's selling it after 5 months of use because he HAS to have a 1080

>>55837680
>and there isn't a game so far that doesn't use it.
Tomb Raider required a patch, ie. it wasn't included with the original DX12 version.

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>>55837957
u wot

They only used one DX12 game in their testing too.

It's actually the other way around. The 970 has to be overclocked to match the 480 and even then it will only match in DX11 games.

>>55837718
>actualy DX12 benchmarkiong generally showing AMD murdering Nvidia
You mean AMD sponsored games murdering Nvidia? I don't recall Time Spy or Tomb Raider being that way.

Bait thread....

>>55838035
What game is that?

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>>55838176
It's an average of all the games they benchmark.

>>55835080
fellow 780 owner here

what card did you get? Looking at getting the 480 myself

>>55837985
>this guy think 2k is 1440p

>>55838039
After TR got async amd started rulling again. Time Spy is proven to be literally shilling. Ofc Nvidia won't sponsor ANY dx12 game since not even Paxwell can do dx12 properly. Maybe with Volta, who knows...

>>55838035

that's a 480 with a factory OC (boost clocks). a reference 480 is slower than a reference 970. an OCed 970 is also faster than an OCed 480.

>>55838330
I stand corrected

>>55838361
>After TR got async amd started rulling again.
Source?
Reviews show that AMD gains about 10% with async on and Nvidia gains about 5%. Considering the difference between the 480 and the 1060 (let alone the 1070 or 1080), the 1060 would still be on top.

>>55838361
>Time Spy is proven to be literally shilling.
You have demonstrated to be an AMDrone as you espouse this when it is clear to everyone but an AMDrone that Time Spy is vendor neutral. I guess I shouldn't be expecting a source for your previous claim.

>>55838035
I dont get it. The 390 has much better specs than the 480 and the 970 yet they all look like the same card. The 390X makes more sense for what the 390 perfomance actually looks like compared to the 480.

Its really weird because ive seen benchmarks in which a base 390 came close to the 980 in some game yet felt more like a 970 in others..

When drivers finally stabilize for Fiji we'll see what the 390 can really do.

>>55838381
>480
>OC

Got a 270 sapphire should I go for a 480?

>>55838414
>benchmark that fully showcases dx12 performance
>not having one of the most important dx12 feature
>neutral

>source?
First site I actually found on ddg, http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/231481-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-async-compute-update-improves-performance-on-amd-hardware-flat-on-maxwell, shows that maxwell even loses performance.
I am in no way a fanboy. I do agree that the 1060 is the better card at the moment, but this is bound to change after a year or so and you'd have to be an idiot to believe otherwise.

>>55838600
Forgot to give a link for the 480, here you are http://www.anandtech.com/show/10531/amd-releases-radeon-software-crimson-edition-1673 . Sorry about that.

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>>55838600
>benchmark that fully showcases dx12 performance
>fully showcases
I don't recall where this was claimed by 3dmark. Got a sour- oh wait. You're an AMDrone. Never mind. Everyone knows that to "fully showcase" would require low level optimizations that are vendor specific. 3dmark doesn't do vendor optimizations.

>on maxwell
Didn't even bother to click.

>I am in no way a fanboy.
Then you are a retard who swallows AMD PR hook, line, and sinker.

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>ITT: 3-5 FPS is all that stands between one company and complete market domination.

>>55838681
How is a feature created by Microsoft in dx12 vendor specific? It is a standard that nvidia can't follow. As I said, maybe with Volta kek.

>>55838813
>How is a feature created by Microsoft in dx12 vendor specific?
If you have to ask that question you demonstrate you are ignorant of what DX12 does.

>>55838833
>hurr durr ill juts call him ignorant that'll show him

And yet Youre the one who spent twice the price we did on the same hardware , dont be mad when your proprietary software driven gpu starts going to shit when open source drivers start getting better.

>>55837812
Some guy actually bought 4 gtx 980s to sli them and then wanted to sell them to get 300 each so he could get 2 gtx 1080. The listing was up for 30 days and in that time he apperantly he sold three of them but no one wanted to get the last one since it was a stock one he used for physx only. He just wanted to get rid off it so he went with 200.
It was seriously one of the best deals ive ever seen.

>>55838833
>that'll show him
You assume, wrongly, that I care to show him. Anyone with any knowledge in the relevant tech knows that DX12's features come mainly from the low-level controls it gives to developers and those low level controls tap into specific hardware features that are fairly vendor specific since both cores are very functionally different.

>Youre the one who spent twice the price we did on the same hardware
You are assuming, again wrongly, that I own a 1060/1070/1080 gpu.

Every post you make is wrong in some manner. Are you too stupid to know when to stop posting or too immature to give up the last word?

>>55837251
Software updates. iOS 9 runs like shit on my Dad's iPhone 4s. He can't run newer software that he needs on his old Macbook that he's perfectly fine with because it runs like absolute shit if updated past Mavericks.

>>55839100
Tell me you don't honestly expect software updates to cater to hardware that's more than a couple of years old?

>>55839116
Cater? Not really. But I expect it to at least work as well as previous versions. Windows 10 works fine on the laptop he bought the same year.

>>55834234
t. luddite

>>55839149
>as well as previous versions
But apple wants you to buy a new one.

>>55839168
Yes? That was my whole point.

>>55839149
>I expect it to at least work as well as previous versions.
Windows 10 should work the same minimum requirements as windows 8? Or is expected to work with legacy hardware? Perhaps you are suffering from a false sense of entitlement since some tech companies do the extra work to have wider compatibility than other companies?

Tell me. How far back did AMD's drivers support non-GCN hardware when GCN 1.0 was launched?

>>55839196
Not sure why you're getting into some tangent about entitlement. My opinion is pretty much irrelevant to my point anyway. Not sure why you'd be ok with Apple forcing upgrades through software though.

>>55835727
>370 €
I wish, 460+ here. I'm going to get the 980Ti below 350.

>>55839259
>My opinion is pretty much irrelevant to my point anyway.
Then why present it if you admit it is a farce?

>forcing upgrades
You feel entitled to have companies continue wide compatibility because it has happened once or twice. That it is an industry standard and your are entitled to it when it may not be an industry standard and there is no obligation for wide compatibility. That you expect a new OS to work just as well on hardware that is 5 years old as the original OS did. That Apple did not suggest against putting IOS 8 on an 4s and yet still expect IOS 9 to work just as well.

It is your sense of entitlement that makes you feel "forced" to upgrade because your dad chose, rather foolishly, to install an OS that doesn't and wasn't designed, to work with his iphone.

>>55839334
>Then why present it if you admit it is a farce?

Because I can? Does my opinion trigger you?

>It is your sense of entitlement that makes you feel "forced" to upgrade because your dad chose, rather foolishly, to install an OS that doesn't and wasn't designed, to work with his iphone.

No actually because all of his banking apps and others won't even run on older OS. Same thing for his laptop. You have apps like Pages or some Adobe products that would otherwise work fine except for some arbitrary lock.

Also still not getting why you're going on about entitlement. I'm just stating what happens to be the case here. I have an iPhone myself, I don't like it but I play their shitty game.

>>55839420
>Because I can?
You are just posting online to see yourself post online rather than for any intent or interest to impart information or carry your end of anything even loosely resembling a substantive discussion. Then there is no reason to bother reading any further.

>>55839455
Are you just pretending to be autistic? I mean, you honestly can't be posting here if you can't handle someone's opinion.

>>55839507
Why should I bother to "handle a person's opinion" that the person himself admits openly is irrelevent?

Oh wait. There's that sense of entitlement again. I should "handle your opinion" because it is YOU posting it and if I actually act in my own self interest rather than pandering to your I must be an autist.

Since there is a lot of shitposting in this thread figured id ask here how much would you guys pay for a used 970? Does 170 dollars seem too much?

>>55835779
>buying the 8gb 480

the 4gb 470/480s are literally perfect for everyone on the planet at 1080p with a mid range gpu older than 3 years

>>55839727
get a 4gb 480 for $190

>>55840013
Where can I find these 190 dollar rx480s?

anybody with a 290 or 290x should just buy another one and CF, really.

>>55835021
Lol retard thats going to be worse than a 1050.

>>55839727
970s are worthless. Get an AMD card or a 1080.

>>55840757
The 1060 is barely faster than a 980 I think the 1050 will be closer to the 970