>yfw you are an audiophile but other normies don't

>>55823829
>A-Are those lightbulbs anon? Do they light up?

>>55823829
>tfw you are an autist
fixed this for you

>>55823829
>parttime audiophile
>fulltime faggot

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:^)

>>55823829
Autism is tough to understand.

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>>55824470
Can I hook into your speaks, doc?

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>>55823829
>audiophile

>>55823829
>having audiotism

>>55825235
>want to listen to some music
>have to wait 20 fucking seconds to get to my headphones

>>55825287
Those bulbs need to heat up before for the best listening experience, delaying the user in this presentation bullshit is deliberate.

>>55825235
What is this?

>>55823829
How many audiophiles could we cure with one college level physics course? It seems like a basic understanding of waves would fix 90% of the stupidity I see with these people.

>>55825235
this is so fucking gay oh my god

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>>55823868

>>55825849
>>55825380
>>55825958
MSRP:$50,000

>>55825907
They obviously don't respond to rational thinking.

>>55824542
>tfw spent so much on vacuum tubes you can't afford furniture

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>yfw some fuck starts meming that there's no discernible difference between digital and vinyl again
>yfw if one of these people actually tried both formats one after the other they'd shut the fuck up immediately

>>55823829
>muh FLAC
>muh synth
>muh headset meme

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>>55823829
Does he have an audiophile sound card?

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>wow anon, why would you spend more than $20 on earphones?
>those apple earphones sound just fine

>>55823829
>tubes making a sound difference in anything other than vintage guitar amplifiers
my old boss played in a metal band and said tube guitar amps need to "warm up" anyway. wouldn't tube headphone amps be counter-productive to sound quality if they're processing a high bitrate digital signal?

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>>55825235
That's awesome

>>55826146
Please no

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>>55823868

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>>55825235
designing shit like this for rich autists must be so fucking awesome
you can literally let your imagination loose and explore the worst ideas and these idiots would still buy it

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>>55826146

tch

poorfags wouldn't understand this hobby

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>>55826146
That's not a sound card.

It is a PCI-e card that is supposed to clean up ripple on the PCI-e power bus by basically adding capacitors.

Because it's not like there are going to be capacitors on your fucking sound card to clean up the power anyway.

Here's something even worse though. Clean the power to your HDD to improve your audio quality!

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>>55827330
>hard candy

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>>55825907
>It seems like a basic understanding of waves would fix 90% of the stupidity I see with these people.
You don't even have to understand waves. This would be cured with an intro level anatomy class.

All audiodumbs need to know is "the human hearing range is from 20Hz to 20kHz."

You could also show them this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX2X_rPWiw4 if they something along the lines of "just because I may or may not be able to hear it doesn't mean it has no influence on the music!"
>2016
>not overlaying all your music with the global field background infrasound to get the True Listening Experience TM

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>>55825235

>>55827330
I feel like this would cause a shit load of I/O issues

>Buy LG V10
>Later realize it has one of the best DAC's on the market, the ESS Sabre 9018, the same DAC in the Fiio X7.
Fuck yeah

>>55827437
>All audiodumbs need to know is "the human hearing range is from 20Hz to 20kHz."
I'm pretty sure that is beside the point. Audiophile gear isn't about higher frequencies but about "better" production of sound.

I honestly think they would learn more from the physics course, but it's not even that. The worse part is when it comes to digital. It seems a big portion of audiophiles don't understand that you can't just apply analog principles to digital, and companies are targeting this with misinformation and marketing fud.

>>55827511
If the data pins are passed straight through it should be fine.

It is still completely useless though.

You can tell when someone is an idiot if they haven't had their ears lobes mapped.

You see, for truly realistic sound (with headphones) you need to have whatever you're listening to modified in the same way your ear lobes modify sound as it reaches your ear and the only way to do that is to have your ear lobes mapped.

>>55823829
>being retarded but other normies are not retarded

I hope they are listening to FLAC and not MP3

>>55823829

Dem transmitting tubes though.....

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>>55827330
>hard candy

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>>55827959

>audiophile setup
>listen to popular music

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http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina47.htm

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>>55825235
This is the most pretentious looking thing I've ever seen that wasn't made by Apple.

It's like it slid right out of its own ass just so audiophiles could then shove it up their asses and let it rest right next to their ears.

>>55825235
Based Sennheiser

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>>55823829
That's probably because audiophile is 99% of the time synonymous with tryhard idiot with way too much money and shit taste in music.

>2016
>tubes
smdh

>>55824542

the white guy for sure has a 3in cock he's making up for

>>55828202
>Codename Blue Meanies operates via mind matter-interaction. The subconscious mind interacts with room boundaries, i.e., closed-in spaces, producing a claustrophobic reaction that interferes with and degrades the listener's sensory perception. It's like putting in a better set of interconnects. Price $99 for set of 4 Blue Meanies.
I like it.

>>55828297
>synonymous with tryhard idiot with way too much money,0 SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE and shit taste in music.

do people who mock audiophiles even try listening to higher end speakers/headphones

>>55826164
>my old boss played in a metal band and said tube guitar amps need to "warm up" anyway
Triodes do need to warm up a bit. It doesn't take long however, under a minute is enough.

>wouldn't tube headphone amps be counter-productive to sound quality if they're processing a high bitrate digital signal?
High bitrate and signal amplification are unrelated, they work in different domains. Tube amplifiers can be counter-productive to signal fidelity and that's often one of the reasons why people purchase tube amplifiers in the first place - to color the sound. Unlike what you often read on audiophile forums and publications, tubes do not inherently have a "warm" tone to them or any tone at all. They can be used in amplifier designs well enough to be transparent.

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>probably has shit taste in music
What do these fuckers even listen to? I'd love to know so I can laugh even harder.

>>55828394
Tell me what kind of dad rock you're listening to first.

>>55828343
/g/ thinks audiophile is synonomous with a retard spending all their money on stupendously expensive esoteric gear while not having a faintest clue about how the devices work, what actually matters, what you can and cannot hear etc. Some people here don't seem to understand audio reproduction one bit either but still love to talk and mock others for it. I guess that's typical 4chin though, regardless of subject.

I'm sure everyone does appreciate good sound and person who is enthusiastic about high quality audio reproduction is an audiophile. Whether he is sane about it or lost his way into the "high end" of the market doesn't isn't defined by the term.

It's the same thing with the word "placebo" which nearly everyone seems to either get wrong or intentionally misuse.

>>55828453
>-doesn't

>>55825907
Zero.

Audiophilia is really just an excuse to spend money on "cool" shit. They claim it's about the sound, but it's really about being able to sit back in your chair and bask in the glory of $100k of equipment, and to post your setup on whatever the audiophile equivalent of battlestation threads are.

>>55828343
Yes.
And there is certainly some benefit from them, don't get me wrong. It's the tube amps and wrist thick cables that get me.
Fuck, there was this one review video I saw of a six way power board with no active components (just direct connections from socket to each power point) in which the reviewer claimed "it was like it added another octave to my speakers".

Audiophiles are fucking retarded.

I can understand good quality speakers/headphones, it's the convincing themselves that something that is literally doing nothing is making a difference that gets me.

>>55825235
This shit is going to be worthless in 10 years when that bullshit breaks and only Sennheiser can fix it for the low price of $6,000,000

>>55828511
Just like how a Ferrari is worthless when you blow a head gasket, right?

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>>55828539
Sup

>>55828546
>a popular car with a dealer ft. service center in most major cities

>>55828562
>>55828539
The PS1 really did have a great DAC though.

>>55828590
no, AKs are decent but there is nothing great about it.

>>55828590
nah, because some CD player in the 90s had a poor sound quality

>>55828502
>it's the convincing themselves that something that is literally doing nothing is making a difference that gets me.
They aren't actively convincing themselves, that's the thing. Many genuinely do hear a difference and that's quite simply how our senses work: we hear what you want to hear, see what we want to see. The sensation of hearing something even though there is nothing is just as real as hearing something that actually is there. And some of these audiophools might not even be interested too much about the sound aspect. They just like hoarding gear and like to spend money on exclusive and expensive stuff. The high price and rarity of some of these components is one of the main reasons why people want to buy them.

>>55828590
Fine for its time, surpassed by an average smartphone today.

>>55828123
>>55823854

>>55828394

Kanye West and garbage like that.

>>55828539
There really needs to be a meme like the metroid tubes one for audiophiles and capacitors.

>how can be make this better?
>zomg capacitors!

>>55828676
>Many genuinely think they hear a difference and that's quite simply how our senses work
Fixed that for you. Yes. it is how our senses work, it's the entire reason we can have hallucinations that affect any and all of our senses. In the end the brain is interpreting the data that is coming in from the nerves and the brain can just as easily insert data, but I will stand by the convincing themselves of it because even when they do tests with equipment that shows no difference they will discard those results.
>You can see from the "Measurements" sidebar that I could find no significant effect that the JitterBug had on the analog signals output by three of the DACs I had to hand. Yet with those DACs and others, I heard an improvement in sound quality that I can attribute only to the JitterBug.

>>55828693
if i were shitting money like these motherfuckers i'd do something like that because why not

so fucking jelly

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>>55828394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDnE7nZYK9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5r0kXAEX_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4xsvytTiXw

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>>55828724

>>55823829
Unless you're a mix or mastering engineer nobody gives a fuck about your ears

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>>55828750
how are giant testes supposed to improve sound?

>>55828763
nobody gives a fuck about engineer ears either because gotta be loud bruh need that bass niggggguuuuhhhh

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>>55828780
Multidirectional midrange speakers

>>55828809
oh

oh my

>>55823829
>tfw you're sick of hearing 12 year olds try to turn the word "normies" into a thing

The proper term which has been approved by 4chan culture is "pleb" which is short for "plebeian" which is actually a real word. You remind me of a child who thinks he's cool for coming up with a compound insult word like "buttface". Would you rather sound like a child or a respectable member of the 4chan community?

>>55828739
Ugly girls

If most wealthy audiophiles really cared about sound, they'd sink money more into acoustic treatment (e.g. bass traps, non-parallel walls etc.) >>55828809 is an absurdly expensive set-up, that could be beat by powered studio monitors coming from a DAC connected to my mom's macbook in a properly treated room.

>>55825235
The Orpheus is only $55k tho. Some crazy audiophiles spend that much in wiring alone

>>55828809
He's going to cut off the top ~7% of his treble with that cable actually laying on a rug. Pah, pleb.

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>>55824470
TV with speaker in the center

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>>55828879
>he don't want fap a feminist

>>55828809
really questioning the sonic properties of that bowl

>>55827525
Only works in the default garbage player.

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>not posted

>>55829071
T H I C K

>>55829071
Funny, I don't see any heavy machinery nearby that would warrant such thick cabling.

Does no one have that webm of this big buy with a bit longer than avarage hair listening to something on headphones and getting spastic movements while listening? Sort of a giant autistic audiophile

I never understood this. Why all the equipment? All youre doing is adding onto the music, taking away from what the engineer and mastering guy intended for the music. All you really need is a good dac+amp and some flat response headphones or monitors.

>>55829071
HOLY FUCK ITS A SNAKE

>>55829127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ

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>>55829139
Haha thats it man, gets me everytime

>yfw the most important characteristic is actually impulse response
>yfw all instrumental music is immediately handicapped
>voice is immediately handicapped
>all dynamic headphones and all speakers are handicapped

>>55829139
Come on, the music is shit, not the headphones.

>>55828884
I can probably buy a set of $300 speakers and make it sound better than what's in the pic related with just that.

Proper acoustics is a must.
It's not just the speakers and dac that makes the sound good.

Audiophiles are almost as bad as guitar fags.
What's the point in changing every component in your guitar/your set up if your music is shit?

>>55825235
>55825235
>when your friends ask you ''why are you still a virgin?"

>>55823829
I see those tubes in every audiophool threads but have no ideal what they are and what they do, someone explain?

>>55828739
Oh man, that's Moot in the back. Almost missed it.

>>55829523
>The fuck am I doing here?
>12/13 of these tards are hysteric crybabies.

>>55829322
Loudspeakers with flat response and good directivity help even in acoustically challenging conditions. A well designed loudspeaker with some smart DSP is a huge help. Most loudspeakers don't have this kind of performance however, especially not the ones people like to use in their living rooms with fancy looks and all. That said DSP and loudspeaker performance can't do miracles and decent acoustics are necessity for the best fidelity.

>>55829508
They are triodes, used for signal amplification.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triode

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>>55825235

Okay, what do audiophiles listen to?
Surely they don't buy all this shit to listen to taytay.

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>>55829778
Type 3+
but you don't need audiophile grade gear to realize how mind-numbing and stupid Type 0 is.

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>>55829802
>black metal
>above anything

>>55829802
What is this cringey shit?

>>55825235
By the time the thing unfolds i'll be bored and on to the next thing.

>>55829845
Nice ADHD, faggot.

>>55829824
Yeah the info graphic is not flawless. Black Metal should be Type 0, as should anything Punk.
>>55829839
Type 0 detected

>>55829802
I only listen to danger music myself. Last show I saw was the Eagles of Death Metal at the Bataclan. Pretty nice danger going on, I liked it.

>>55830005
>Eagles of Death Metal
How is that danger music?

>>55830009
When terrorists enter the room :^)

It's only danger music if it was written in the score and intended by the artist

>>55830026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQLa3_X-8fY
This is music? It's just a guy getting his head shaved by his kids with some echo.

>>55829972
Please explaing what that is? Rating of obscurity based on arbitrary genre classifications?

>>55828123

lewd

>>55830122
Pyramid of Taste

>>55830122
Pyramid of pretentiousness.

>>55830156
Hilarious. Less hilarious if it goes from shit to less shit from top to bottom. Still what >>55830198 said is all I see in it.

>tfw I have worked in the audio production industry for 15 years and audiophiles are mostly laughed at for their stupidity and gullibility

>>55827370
it also filters out NSA noises to keep your Hard Candy safe and sound

>>55828394
>94
wow.
i have one of those.. Now! 6 on cassette

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>>55830231
>Hip Hop less shit than Xenharmonism
>Hip Hop less shit than New Complexity
>Hip Hop less shit than Free Jazz
>Hip Hop less shit than Modal Jazz
Are you having a giggle?

>>55828123
Why the fuck would you need a tube that large? That looks like it's taken from a WW2 radar installation.

>>55830281
Especially sound

>>55824470
>where's the aux cable bro

>>55830122
What contrarian kids listen to.

>>55828394
I know audiophile fags

>classical music
>adult contemporary
>random pop R&B like Mary J Blige

>>55832003

To be fair, some r&b has god tier mixing and mastering.

>>55828693
I would just blast trap music with horns through those things and laugh my ass off

>>55828809
>those antiques clearly there to appease his wife

Yeah Martha, the decor looks greaaaat.

>>55828849
People just don't give a fuck any more. Sad!

>>55828690
dude, its tubes for audiohpiles too
>how can we improve the sound quality?
>moar tubes!

>>55828739
whats with the shitty hallway
are they in a parking lot? theres water on the floor and shit

>>55832094
Not to the level of capacitors though.

>>55832139
Basement of one of the Google complexes.

>>55832021
yeah, I'm not saying that they're wrong to listen to that stuff

A lot of audiophiles will get a fancy digital thingy with an entire library of music on it that syncs wirelessly with an iPad. The library has all kind of R&B music. Also, interestingly, Daft Punk.

> Spending 50k on audio equipment
> Listening 24/7 to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU

>>55828394
It's not like dad's gonna bust out the new Autechre flacs, anon.

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Every time I see these threads and see them playing digital audio via all those intermediary "Noise Reduction" and "Sound Improvement" devices I remind myself of the simple principle of noise reduction existent in electronics.

The more cable and circuits you use the more Noise there is in the System.

Meaning the more complex the shit is the more Noise your going to get.

I'm actually one of the few people who can hear all the 20khz range of sound humans can hear and I can say without a doubt that albeit you can hear it "Better" with audiophile gear you are literally losing a massive amount of original quality of the recording by adding more devices to decode and "Improve" the music.

>>55832261
yeah that's why i only use apple earbuds
gotta get that bear metal straight to the source quality sound

>>55832216
Good god that has bad audio quality even for a youtube video

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>>55831057
>UNDERRATED

>>55826154
Spending more than 100 bucks on this shit is stupid.

>>55832261
There's no point bringing up the 20kHz range, audiophile gear isn't about that, even your fairly cheap will reach over 20kHz.

>>55828299

Thanks for your contribution, Tyrone.

So aside from getting good headphones, and listening to FLAC, how else do I improve my sound quality without falling for the tube meme? Can $50 sound card do the same thing?

>>55832615
Sound cards are placebos.
Buy some decent non Beats headphones and you're fine, always test them before buying. Flacs and 320kbit/s mp3 have the same quality for human's senses.

>spend thousands on shit that makes you feel unique
>same audio quality you get with £40 headphones

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>>55832713
my desktop speakers. €9.99 from Argos, does netflix, gaming and movie torrents fairly well.

>>55832293
>Apple earbuds

Nice shit phone with shit earbuds m8.
At least get something with a proper DAC.


>>55832485
You're right I was just pointing out that there is no point in improving the sound artificially if it differs from the original medium.

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>>55830511
First off, stop posting pictures of my countrymen. Secondly, I'm having a giggle at someone unironically making that pyramid.

>>55825235

>'you could've been a father and a husband instead you buy this fucking contraption to give you false sense of self worth?!'
>'but mooooom, i'm an audiophile!!!'

>>55825235
>and here are my test tubes containing the most dangerous virus strains in the world

>>55827214
its not about being rich or poor

its about audiophiles admitting their bullshit equipment doesnt improve anything and they do it only because they cant stop buying more useless crap

>>55824470
it's clearly not fully assembled. Whoever took this wanted to brag about
>muh hardware
instead of his setup or actually enjoying audio

audio fags kys

>>55828739
is there really a point to these videos? The equipment you have might be the best on the market and the real life experience might indeed be amazing, but as soon as you record it through a shitty camera microphone, upload it on youtube, and listen to it through lower quality speakers it's going to be pointless.

>>55824542
oy vey

>>55828770
meme aside, that setup is badass

>>55834282
Yeah, 5.x/7.x home cinema system are very race in the audiophile cringe world, I want watch Mad Max with this setup.

>>55834063
They use a highend microphone but yes, with the shitty youtube sound

So, like, why don't they just go to concerts or whatever?

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>>55829071
>>55829086
>>55829107
>>55829137

>>55829071
well those wires are still gonna have 0.0001 ohm in them, pleb should have invested in superconducting cables.

>>55834469
holy...

>>55823829
>tfw your an audiophile but don't understand placibo

>>55829068
It's work on everything after marshmallow update from April. Nice meme.

>>55829802
>tfw I find sonorism really cool and nice to listen to

>>55826109
vinyl is worse in almost every way, except "experience"

t. someone with over 500 LPs

>>55829802
>Free Folk

that's a joke right

>>55834469
you'd think someone as nuts as that guy would have misgivings about putting a power cable over a heating vent like that.

like none of it matters, but if he's such a nutso i'd expect him to think it does

>>55827680
how much costs a cableholder

>>55830557
i hope it sends xrays aut in the audiophiles ass

>>55834469
it's funny as shit to see this plugged directly into a wall instead of a UPS

>>55834469
>it needs a support to prevent it pulling itself out of the socket
You can't make this shit up.

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Why do you guys hate audio setups that cost more than $100?

>>55827550
Sabre DACs aren't inherently good though. They're extremely programmable and CAN be good if you implement the filters right.

>>55837711
l..like a generator?

>>55838189
it's not simply that they're expensive, but that they're blatantly overpriced/over-engineered
spending thousands more than someone else to have nothing more than better on-paper specs is laughable/sad
there is a limit to how accurate sound reproduction can be, and an even lower limit to how much accuracy is needed to become transparent/unnoticeable, and you do not need terribly expensive gear to reach them

>>55838874
>there is a limit to how accurate sound reproduction can be
to be clear, how accurate sound reproduction needs to be for the purposes of human listening

>>55838189
>$100

$130 000

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>>55827370
>>55828092

>>55833292
Underrated

>>55838874
>$100 setups are overpriced and over engineered
Jbl had to cut alot of corners just to get the lsr305 to sound as good as they do and measure flatter than anything under $1000

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>>55827040

>>55839627
>$100 setups are overpriced and over engineered
did i say that?

>>55838840
if your audio reproduction system isn't powered directly by a nuclear reactor your soundstage becomes thin and empty

The giant monoblock amp set ups are pretty cool and all until you realize they're most likely never pushed beyond 1watt.

>>55839767
Enjoy your beta radiation induced noise in your cables

Bringing this up again, I have actual "golden ears" they are literally no fun. Imagine walking around all day perceiving the sound of each tube and ballast in florescent lights.

Audiophiles pretend to have a medical condition and make it worth while, give them my ears for a day and they would rather do intentional hearing damage.

>>55838874
These setups aren't better on paper or in practice. It isn't what these audiophiles are looking for.

Better performance in specs is something I appreciate a lot and it doesn't matter whether this gives an audible benefit in listening. A good performance is a testament to good engineering and quality manufacturing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTRKFkE32XE

>>55825235
That's actually really neat. It's stupid, but I can appreciate the engineering of it.

>>55824542
typical audiophile with no furniture to sit on

>>55839937
>implying the unshielded gamma radiation of your personal thorium reactor doesn't inject a distinct warmth similar to the nuances of vinyl while making every listen completely unique and unpredictable unlike vinyl's repetitive defects

Holy shit I need to get into the nuke business. Could you imagine that, actually UPSELLING small-scale nuclear reactors? If there's a market, it's goddamn audiophiles.

>>55833348
under rated

>>55823829
>Calling yourself an audiophile unironically

>>55828123
Better not smudge that glass or each your 3gb flac files turn into 96 Kpbs mp3s

>>55827454
what anime is that

>>55828780
>confused anime grill with interrogation punctuation 21.jpg
post link to whole folder pls

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>>55829802
>no nasheeds
>no nightcore
they're both type0 but still

>>55830231
>calling stochasticism shit
kys

>>55829802
am i type 3 just because i have bitches brew

>>55838290
I think he's talking about shit like HDMI cables advertised as giving you better sound (or picture in some cases), when it's all digital, so you get the same data anyway.

>>55829802
kpop where?

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>>55829802
>Type
it's a joke, right

>>55826005
>>55825380
>>55823854
>>55828123
>>55841839
You faggots know what tubes are right? A lot of high power stuff still run on tubes bc solid state ain't got the jam yet. Or are significantly cheaper. God I hate this fucking place why do I come here

>>55844097
>M U H T U B E S

>>55844097

evolve or die. or maybe just be masochistic once in a while

audiophilia is probably the hobby with the highest diminshing returns, that price ceiling goes so high

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>>55844097
>bc solid state ain't got the jam yet
The best tube on this planet south like a average solid state. It's audio cringe elitism.

>>55844222
>south
sound*

>>55844097
No, I don't do. ChemEng

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>>55828539
>>55828562

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>>55828693
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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>>55823829

>>55829972
>Yeah the info graphic
>info
o im laffin

>>55845796
To be fair, putting some money into a reasonable but decent audio setup is definitely noticeable if all you're using is a generic pair of headphones. Diminishing returns just kicks in really hard and really fast.

>>55825907
Zero.
I have meet sound engineers who are audiofools. It's not about knowdelge, it's about a ritual.

>>55836449
And dynamic range in vinyl is theorically better, but in reality doesn´t matter. Almost all popular music doesn´t employ dynamics in a way it could be noticeable. And Classical music has been recorded beautifully with only "CD presets"

>>55845972
Well when you put 30k+ into your audio setup, there's a good incentive to imagine that it's a lot better than one worth 2k.

>>55846012
That's the funny thing. Rituals reinforce themselves.
If they don´t stop buying audiofool bullshit before they develop the ritual behaviour, they´re fucked.

>>55846012
Well what is more important than personal experience? Someone deep into the audiophile placebo actually experiences different price tags of equipment differently.
It's kinda sad.
But this makes it so that money really does make a difference since that's what they're using to give themselves the placebo.

>>55838905
This.
Most of the old men owners of this equipments cant even hear 22khz.

>not listening to 8bit music on torn speakers
It's like you don't even know what fun is

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>tfw find rare audio gear in the trash or boot sales and flip it to audiophools online

Audiophiles do make me laugh. I was talking to a mastering engineer a while back about his system at home vs the one in his studio and he rightly said that once you get to a certain level, professional equipment is the way to go. High end consumer gear is a meme in all electronics and if you're spending five figures or more to listen to your records you have far greater problems then fretting over the perceived minute differences between tube amps

>>55846221
Examples of what you've found?

https://www.audiodestination.co.uk/digital-64/master-clock-generators/esoteric-g-01-rubidium-master-clock-generator

Top kek

Post some audio '''''enchancing''''' items

>>55846284
Mostly low end amps but I've had gems like Sansui AU-999, Sansui AU-517, recently got a BGW 410 and a Adcom GFA-555II power amp

>>55846285
>£16000 for an oscillator
Wow

>>55846316
What sort of car boots are you going to?!

audiophile is a buzzword, commonly used to target technically inept people who thinks buying expensive tech offer an audible difference only they can hear.
>poorly mastered music still sounds like crap

>>55843815
did raja get a sex change?

>>55827680
Help! My amps are being attacked by snakes! D:

>>55828453
I'm sure if you realize that the placebo effect can indeed make your expensive equipment sound better in your head. Please elaborate.

>>55823829

>audiophile
>32-bit 384KHz
>$1000 cable risers
>$10000 magic rocks
>$100000 usb cables

>>55827680
this can't be anything other than mental illness

>>55846562
the correct term is expectancy bias. placebo deals with medical treatment, hence the quotation marks.

Some of these setups look pretty dope in a cyberpunk kind of way

>>55844097
Do they actually light up?

>>55846198
>cant even hear 22khz.
Neither can you.

https://youtu.be/KgLYi2acPDI?t=648

>>55828942
Sauce?

>>55846697
You sure? Because I thought the expectancy bias (or observer-expectancy effect) was about, and I'll quote Wikipedia (because it's just so much easier), "(...) interpreting results incorrectly because of the tendency to look for information that conforms to their hypothesis, and overlook information that argues against it."

...which isn't what I meant. I'm convinced that expensive equipment will *does* actually sound better (subjectively, of course) to audiophiles - just like naturally grown food tastes better to, um, people who are affected by the "naturalistic fallacy" (?).

>>55829176
>the most important characteristic is actually impulse response
In the sense that it defines an LTI system, sure.
Impulse response is already used and transformed into more readable forms.

>>55845994
>And dynamic range in vinyl is theorically better
No, it has inferior dynamic range. Probably closer to 60 dB at very best.
What vinyl does have is a limited ability to produce ultrasonic frequencies. Still, cartridge can only move so fast, analog master tapes has issues with frequency bandwidth and linearity.

>>55827525
The idea of the DAC chip as being important needed to die yesterday. The amplifier used is far more important.
Does anyone give a shit?
No they don't, because who actually cares about sound quality.

>>55838290
Do you have the documentation on the Sabre chips lying around? ESS doesn't like to hand those out freely.
Filters can make more of a difference, but I'm not inclined to believe that typical cutoff filters in the transition band affect the audible frequencies.

>>55847237
there's plenty of reasons for what you're describing. confirmation bias, preference falsification, post-purchase rationalization, etc.. bottom line is that it all goes away under blind tests, which those individual, who aren't audiophiles, often refuse to perform or misinterpret the results of because of they also lack a basic understanding of statistics.

>>55840049
For what it's worth, even without "golden ears" after a few years working as a sound tech you start picking that shit up. The 15k produced by the fluorescent lamps at work is grating as all hell if I'm not listening to music while putting things together.

>>55840049
>>55847517
I actually have subpar hearing due to having really bad ear infections as a kid, and even I can hear shit like that.

It's more about awareness than the sensitivity of your ears. I still can't hear 24kHz, much less 48.

>>55823829
Not even a normalfag but no, I do not understand your autism. I use a 30 pair of ear buds and plug them directly into my phone. I listen to my mp3s and it sounds fine. Please consider suicide.

>>55828896
I've got a price quote at 65k and an 18 month wait list. Can't buy it now, and I dislike electrostatic headphones.

>>55847237
Again from the wiki:
>Expectancy effect may refer to:
>Observer-expectancy effect
>Subject-expectancy effect
>a research subject or patient expects a given result and therefore unconsciously affects the outcome, or reports the expected result

>>55847501
Main reason that DBTs aren't performed is that they can be a real pain in the ass to carefully conduct.
Not necessarily fun either, and you don't have a particular reason to do it as a consumer.
In general, being enthusiastic about audio products doesn't mean anything with regards to hearing acuity and training.

>>55829982
This would be funnier without the Windows Explorer when he's using a Mac

>>55836408
Artists? Just googled it and enjoying it.

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>>55827330
the stupid, it hurts.

>>55834063
Its not about sound quality its about being a pretentious fag and wanting everyone to know about it.

What kind of music does he listen too with that overpriced equipment?

>>55828676
Have fun playing pretend

>>55847886
>don't have a particular reason to do it as a consumer
but you can confirm or disprove the worth of a purchase or the importance of an upgrade without falling into the trap of "everyone else likes it and it's expensive so it must be good"

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>>55823829
>tfw you're an power engineer but other normies don't understand you

>>55828590
Would you like to break out the old wax cylinder and proclaim it as the pinnacle of audio reproduction?
>The PS1 really did have a great DAC though.
No, it wasn't. The first Sony CD player ever made was better in frequency extension and linearity.

>>55848832
There isn't a strong motivation to do that unless you were spending a very large portion of your disposable income on a product that you aren't sure about.
Good speaker testing is hard. Blind testing headphones and in-ears doesn't work.

>>55846284
A nice amplifier with a few hundred watts of continuous power goes for a few hundred dollars. The same amp will probably be a few thousand dollars more if it had to be sold to the consumer.
Active crossovers just aren't done for the consumer and the speakers usually have inferior dispersion and radiation characteristics as well. The aversion to parametric EQ is startling.

The consumer speaker market is bleeding away, and I have to wonder if it has to do with headphone growth or if the market is starting to implode from its own foolishness.

>>55824470
Old pic

>>55823829
>>55824470
>>55824542

>Normal people enjoying they harmless hobbies.
> Successful enough to spare enough cash to buy high end equipment for it
>Even socializing and sharing common interests

>Heyyy /g/ let's hate them for no reason!

This is /g/, ladies and gentlemen

>>55828205
Not everybody lives in insecurity-land like you. Some people just like the way things look

I bet you also call everything dark "edgy" as if everything everyone else does is to project their insecurities

>>55849701
>people who spend tens of thousands of dollars on placebo shouldn't be mocked
Good speaker setups are fine, but when it gets to the point of tubes or those supports that keep wires from touching the floor, it's far too much.

>>55829071
>Huge cables
>attach it with a screw

Fucking hell, if you are going so overboard you have to solder that shit.

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>>55850138
shit im happy with my sony av reciever sony 10 inch subwoofer and pioneer satellite size speakers.

i think it sounds amazing, but it could be that before this my only experience with sound at home was shitty logitech pc speakers and the shit speakers in my old crt tv

>>55826154
>not buying the monoprice 8320s for $6 and dealing with mild discomfort for bretty gud sound

>>55823829
I bet 99.99% of these idiots don't even know what the Nyquist Shannon sampling theorem or a transfer function is

As someone with a large background in electronics and ICT:

It's hilarious how these guys are spending so much on 0.1% better music, but leave gaping holes on other parts.

It's so immensely clear that they just drink the Cool-Aid and have absolutely no idea about the technicalities about it.

>>55850352
They probably haven't even heard about Nyquist-Shannon.

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Audiophilie in a nutshell.

>>55850352
>sampling theorem
That theorem has like a dozen separate people who offered some form of proof on it.
I don't think most of /g/ can run through the sampling theorem and understand the conditions and provisions it makes.

>>55850377
>It's hilarious how these guys are spending so much on 0.1% better music
The acoustic and mechanical parts are the most flawed, most noticeable, and difficult to do well, but you still have people seriously comparing microscopic linearity differences of D-S and sign magnitude converters for audio, or the "musicality" of a filter cap in the power supply.

>>55825235
This slow-moving thing is creeping me out. I keep thinking of the eggs opening in Aliens.

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>>55844097
>ain't got the jam

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>>55843815
>AMD marketing department.webm

>>55828884
sp0tted rossman

whats up jewnigger

>>55824470
>dat bonsai

>>55829523
who?

>>55823868
10/10 made my laugh

>>55825235
>all these unnecessary moving parts and motors potentially introducing noise to the audio
>you can shield it, but why even have the noise source so close to the audio processing circuits to begin with?

>>55855186
Because Sennheiser is making a point about how pointless it is to go overboard with shielding when they can go ahead and focus on the presentation while having nil effect on the audio.

>>55827040
>audiophile
>not fully shielded

Nigga, update your snake oil.

Is it true that multi-core CPUs output lower quality audio when compared to single-core CPUs?

>>55844097
>solid state ain't got the jam yet.
go away dad

Why would a headphone need an amplifier if I don't need it to be really loud?

>>55855711
Because loud is relative

>>55855711
Because you want to hear the highs and lows well (i.e. the detailed definition of the sound).

>>55855767
Amps don't magically improve the sound signature, anon

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>tfw I thought of /g/ when I noise proofed the home cinema room

>>55855879
how is your expensive floor, anon?

>>55855879
Can't you just shove something similar to a pillow everywhere?

>>55855711
Impedance buffer, and not much else. If you play around with gain, you might be able to do something about residual noise.

>>55855879
Besides the visible blocks in the photo, are the other walls solid?
Damping won't stop the LF acoustic modes in the room, only a specialized resonator trap could help there, and those are not cheap to purchase.

>>55855949
Porous material works best and insulation is cheap enough.
With only a few inches thick layered material, the insulation should be highly resistive to maximize absorption.

>>55828750
not going to lie, if i was this rich, i'd do shit like this too

>>55855879
well, i guess that works as a good heat insulator as well

>>55856116
The object is not to insulate the inside of the house but the outside walls.

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>>55855993
It's about a 8 inches of concrete.

>>55855935
Nowhere as expensive as the rest of the renovations.

>>55855949
I wish.

>>55828792
Get the fuck out, slimy ape.

>>55844097
eat shit

>>55843815
Is this the Pete Burns fan club?