Why does /g/ hate the gtx 970 so much? Regardless what anyone

It's a really good card. Actually the #1 most popular card on Steam.

/g/ is filled with autistic poorfags though who hate on anything Nvidia.

>>55809369
nobody likes being lied to and scammed

Nvidia's already finalizing/settling/paying for the multi-million dollar class action lawsuit because of it.

But hey, enjoy your cheaper 970 I guess, and make sure you buy nvidia again so you can maybe profit a little more off the next class action lawsuit when they scam you.

>>55809380
>>55809369
Yeah, it's a nice card, but flaved nonetheless.
Set textures to Ultra High in GTA 5 (just example) and your video memory usages goes over 3500MB and the FPS goes dropping down.
While the same performance Radeon only has a few frames dropped because of the higher texture size.

>>55809413
This, AMD might have shittier drivers, but still has better cards and does not screw over their customers.

>>55809433
The RX 480 power problem is even worse than the 970 memory

AMD is actually much worse

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>>55809413
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-geforce-gtx-970-vram-stress-test.html

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198223-investigating-the-gtx-970-does-nvidias-penultimate-gpu-have-a-memory-problem/2

>muh 3.5gb
Off yourselves.

>>55809369
>Regardless what anyone may say, it's still a 4gb card with full access to all 4 GB on board ram.
3.5GB of that at proper speeds.

>But there is nothing with that!
99% of the time, that is true. But there is something wrong with barefaced lying to your customers. And when nVidia's CEO came out and said "It is not a bug, it is a feature!" that was another slap in the face.

>>55809491
Dunno the fuck people are talking about a power problem, I have two superclocked Sapphire RX480's in my old AM3+ with a 750W PSU and there are no problem.
Only thing I heard about a power problem was a review with early units what AMD replaced. Sound more like fanboy butthurt then an actual problem.

>tfw bought a 970 in april despite pascal rumors and 3.5U
>step up to a 1070
>wait to collect my $30 from nvidia for the 970 controversy

it was a good deal

>>55809538
Actually 4gb is at proper speed. You just can't access both 512mb partitions on the last mc at the same time.

>>55809562
You sound like a butthurt AMDrone.
Butthurt cause AMD keeps fucking you in the ass!
Lel

>>55809595
I'm not brand loyal, the RX480 was just financially better idea than anything Nvidia has to offer.
But the shit Nvidia is pulling off does discourage one to support them in the future.
I do dislike the poorly developed drivers of AMD, but in today's market there's not that much to choose from.

>>55809636
What shit is nvidia doing? Amd marketing department is nothing short of disgusting and it takes a serious fanboy not to see it.

>>55809668
Woodscrews? Shitty cooling? The same shit OP posted about?
I never look at those marketing shit Nvidia or AMD puts out on the stage, but there's is way more talk about Nvidia's mistakes, probably for a reason.

Also don't care about AMD's marketing department but about the product that is released, I make my own conclusions about the product on my own experiences, living in Europe I can always return the item after trying it for a few days if I don't like it.

>>55809713
>yeropoor
AHAHA butthurt amdrone detected, go fuck yourself youre probably jelly that you cant afford superior Nvidia hardware

>>55809713
Are you done posting memes? The only thing you could legitimately point out is ops post, and while that's false advertising it's nothing Amd doesn't do.

So where exactly is your problem or are you just a meme spouting Amd zealot?

>>55809744
Obviously I'm not really interested and tired of those GPU threads here, specially because you trolls are actual brand loyal idiots who can't troll nor don't know the value of things.

>>55809369
All of the negative comments are from AMD friends who would never buy Nvidia anyway because of "the Jews".

>>55809636
>480 better than 1060

>>55809761
Yeah of course a religious worshipper of the mighty Amd isn't interested in dialogue. You're here just to recruit disciples.

>>55809756
No actual problem, as I said, been using both companies products for years.
Just as I pointed about, all that talk about Nvidia lying does discourage to support it, you don't hear those things about AMD?
Reading a few news articles in the past years, there are many examples about Nvidia lying to it's customers, like saying that an made up card is an finished product in an expo or not specifying that part of the memory uses different and slower lanes.

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I can't wait until a 1060 is in stock

should I just get a founders edition?

I am a 970 owner, and I have to be honest that the VRAM issue will, and is becoming a problem.
Honestly I only bought it because of my case, but really I would have liked a 390 or 390X, much more future proof as programs and games start to use more video memory.
On an honest note though, every GPU has some sort of issue, none are perfect.

>>55809589
where to get my $30 well technically $50 in total because of the rebate I got from msi already.

>>55809636
Better than the 1060?
LEL

>>55809713
Of course there's more talk about Nvidias mistakes, just like there's more talk about Apples mistakes. More marketshare = more publicity, both for good and bad shit

>>55809779
Not with the deal I got the two 480's for, nothing more about it.

>>55809787
It would be hard to call me an AMD fanboy (not only because I'm not brand loyal) because I have a GeForce 9800 GX2 on my desk (for appearance) what I think is still an amazing card what I still love from my times.

>>55809793
I hear plenty of things about Amd, problem is that nobody cares if Amd does stupid shit. You're included. Rx480 has retarded power setup because Amd thinks peasants find 2 6 pins scary. The cooler on the reference model is absolute trash, opengl still runs like shit and is outdated etc. Nobody cares, because Amd can do no wrong.

>>55809773
isn't it weird how the AMDrones always seem to have more informative posts than the nvidia posters?

All the nvidia posters do is tell you to buy more nvidia, but they never explain technical details and always use tons of emotional manipulation and logical fallacies.

It's almost like the so-called AMDrones are legit posters who actually care and know their stuff and the pro-nvidia fans are just shills working from a marketing playbook.

But I'm sure that's not actually the case.

>>55809805
Dude, 390 and 390x get loud as fuck, especially after an oc.

>>55809831
>>55809844
I visit those GPU threads for lol's sometimes, I'm sure Nvidia fanboys would be using more shit against AMD if it actually had any, but usually it's the other way around, by your logic, then there should be more Nvidia fanboys then AMD fanboys too? So, where's the shitstaining?

Anyways, I don't want to take part in these discussions, there's more interesting things in this board.

>>55809847
Yea I know man, that is why I wish my situation would allow for me to have one.
If water cooled it can be a pretty mean chip.

>>55809845
Has AMD finally fixed the compass glitch for fa4?

AMD has horrible drivers and qc.
>rx 480 power draw
>r9 290x elpida vram

Also, in general an AMD card will die sooner than an nvidia card, not sure why. My HD6870 died 2 years ago but my friends gtx 580 is still chugging along just fine.
He's going to upgrade when the 490 comes out though because he's struggling to run most games on high these days

>>55809881
What nvidia fanboys? Amd has fanboys, nobody cares about nvidia beyond their products

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>>55809931
>Also, in general an AMD card will die sooner than an nvidia card

Very true, pic related.

AMD cards are just awful cheap shit that fails very often.

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>>55809422
Hey mate how is your first summer in AMD camp of bullshit and deception?

>>55809812
just have to wait for more details to come out

>>55809947
It's unfortunate because bad drivers, lack of driver features like shadowplay, and this kind of shit, Is the reason I stick to nvidia.

>>55809965
Nicely done, hope you don't mind if I save for use in the future.

>>55810038
I'm gonna post more 4GB vram games like GTA5 in nearby future. Just finishing reconfiguring W10 (Don't ask why, I just had to).

>>55809965
>this could actually be an 980 or even an AMD card and you could not tell the difference
Top proof bro

>>55809947
>3 year warranty
fuck yeah, dont really give 5 fucks if the card dies thanks to the warranty, I dont use one card longer than 3 years anyways before I upgrade, never actually had a card die on me (AMD), but I guess thats a sucky thing about AMD

>>55809965
That webm is actually a RIVA 128 right? Running the game in Ultra.

>>55810163
I keep my card until they can't maintain 60fps on medium settings for my games. I'm not too fussed over ultra settings, but playing on low settings just makes me feel weird.

I upgraded from a HD5870 to a GTX980 ti last year. While I've never had a card die on me either, it would suck if I was forced to upgrade early.

>>55809845
I think you have that literally backwards.

>Here is a 1060 GTX. It beats 480RX in 18/20 DX11 titles while costing the same. It's also a common knowledge that AMD has issues with driver support and overall it tends to run hotter and louder. I think that's a justifiable purchase. What do you think guys?
>Random AMD poorfag on /g/ shows up
>ENJOY YOUR GIMPED PERFORMANCE IN DX12. CLEARLY EVERY GAME FROM NOW ON WILL USE VULKAN AND DX12 BECAUSE I SAY SO. FUCK OFF NVIDIA SHILL. OH AND LET'S IGNORE THAT EPISODE 2 OF HITMAN AND TOMB RAIDER WHERE NVIDIA ACTUALLY OUTPERFORMS AMD IN DX12. THOSE WERE SHILL GAMES. IT'S ALL ABOUT ASHES OF SINGULARITY AND DOOM BABY AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME YOU'RE A SHILL AND YOU NEED TO FUCK OFF BACK TO /v/.

Honestly, this needs to stop.

>>55810199
Ultra settings are actually how the game is intended to look like, every other lower setting is something removed.
Better get a console then.

>>55810178
>RIVA 128
Fucking pleb I made that webm using GeForce 256. '97 poorfag it's time to upgrade.

>>55810229
GPU threads on /g/ need to stop.
Fuck you /v/ fanbois.

>>55810038
>Nicely done, hope you don't mind if I save for use in the future.
Go ahead, it's just a random clip from a video from youtube anyways.

>>55809491
>power problem
WHat?

>>55810273
Some Nvidiot shill madeup shit about an article a review site posted once.

>>55810229
Well firstly the 480 is supposed to be cheaper. It not being cheaper is generally a sign that AMD fanboys are retarded since they'd still buy it even when it costs too much.
AMD put everything into making a value-performance card for the mid range and it's impossible to find at the price it's supposed to be.
Ultra-goof.

>>55810229
That would require AMDrones to learn to be sensible.

>AMD gpu does badly in a game? Nvidia is in cahoots with the sponsors and/or Gameworks is used to gimp AMD cards in the game.

>Nvidia gpu doing badly in a game? AMD is a legitimate "sponsor" and/or "worked closely" with the developers.

A prime example is 3DMark's Time Spy benchmark.

>>55810270
Link?

>>55810273
Rx480 pulled more than the maximum amount (average draw) from the pcie slot and damaged on board components like integrated sound cards and pcie slots.

They reduced it with drivers but it's not 100% fixed

>>55810320
Seriously? Too dumb or lazy?

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I think I'll make a mega thread with bunch of webms and screenshot of original webm source next to my MSI afterburner window about 970 gtx and vram issue. There is only one problem.

JUST

>>55810332
Tbh even I think it was a little bit of a bullshit exaggeration and I'm still rocking my 970 GTX.

>>55809369
Dear Nvidya JEWS:

Please stop sending your poorly paid shills to promote the ABSOLUTE SHIT 970 to /g/

I don't give a fuck about AMD, and do believe Nvidya products are better overall if you can afford them, but the 970 IS ABSOLUTE SHIT AND WILL EVER BE ABOSLUTE SHIT NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHILLING YOU FORCE DOWN OUR THROATS.

GO FOR LITERALLY ANY OTHER CARD, AVOID THE 970 LIKE THE PLAGUE

fucking sage

>>55810292
>That would require AMDrones to learn to be sensible.

AMDrones can't afford to be sensible. Their company is dying and they make shit products, they literally have to lie to make AMD seem good.

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>>55810320
There is no link. I've made that webm myself.

>>55810378
Dead motherboards was most likely an exaggeration, but I can see the other shit happening on cheap as shit boards from asrock or MSI.

>>55810400
I know, I was just proving >>55810334 is full of shit by not providing a link despite claiming he recognized it from YouTube.

>>55810386
nobody cares about your shill meme mr speglord

>>55810273
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumption-Concerns-Radeon-RX-480

>>55810386
Why would nvidia shill the 970? 1070 is out you retard.

>>55810431
you should ask that to the OP summerfriend

>>55810436
>calls others summerfriends
>honestly believes somebody spends money on anons to shill on /g/.

It's brand royalty and the need to defend your purchase, especially when claimed accusations are full of shit. Nothing less, nothing more.

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>>55810436
Why would I shill the 970 when the 1070 is out?
You can get better performance from a 1060 or rx480 for less and Nvidia gains nothing since they've stopped manufacturing the 970.

I'm not a paid shill.

t. OP

>>55810386
>Please stop sending your poorly paid shills to promote the ABSOLUTE SHIT 970 to /g/
Not the OP but I agree with his position. In pursuit of having a substantive discussion let's make our positions clear.

Point - 970 is (though now eclipsed by Pascal) a well functioning card. It is a cool, well-performing, and popular choice for your gpu. In fact, it is still the top GPU on steam's listing of gpus.

Your point - We should disregard all the good things about the 970, all the benchmarks, the power efficiency, availability, popularity, etc. because they misrepresented how much full speed memory was included with it?

>>55810464
This.

The 970 is actually objectively a great card.

>>55809965
Yup, it's just caching in the rest of the memory, not actually actively using the top 512MB, some sneaky stuff Nvidia did with the drivers so it would not be that bad.
Nvidia themselves said that the top half of the memory is not using the same memory controller on the chip as the first 3.5GiB are but a slower indirect one, so there's nothing you can say, it's sourced by Nvidia themselves.

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Question is, will the lawsuit's result drop the 970's prices?

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>>55810464
Pro tip: It's still most purchased card in UK because it's simply 80 quid cheaper than 1060 and 480RX (Yes yes I know OCUK has a 8gb Nitro for 250 pounds but that shit is in pre-order for a month now and it's gonna stay this way same way nvidia shield k1 costs twice as much in reality if you actually want to get it)

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How much of an upgrade will this be from a gtx 680 4gb?

>>55810498
Wasn't the R9 380 the same price almost a year ago? Being a higher spec's card.

>>55809799
founders edition = shit cooler, slower base clock
go for evga or asus windforce meme

>>55810517
Idiotic one.

>>55810520
380 dropped too but I'm pretty sure 380 is utter shit when compared to 970/1060/480. I'd argue that 390 is a fair counterpart for 970, 390x is minimally better than 480RX. In all honesty this is only a thing that happens in EU, 970/390x dropped to USA prices while brand new cards will cost 50% more than they should for the entirety of 2016.

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>>55810536
How about this?

>>55810563
Why not something better?

>>55810332
>>55810378
>>55810417
afaik no motherboard died except the one the guy killed on purpose by lighting it on fire or something.

>>55810571
Because I'm poor. Otherwise I'd just get the gtx 1080.

I'd keep the 680, but my dad got me a new 1440p monitor and the 680 just doesn't cut it anymore.

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>>55810571
why would you need more than 8 gigs

>>55810587
Then both of those cards are fine, just look up benchmarks for games you gonna play for both of these cards.

>>55810590
64k is all you need

>>55810572
Yeah but I can see the sound card thing happening.

My friends computer makes clicking sounds through the speaker ever since he upgraded to the gtx 960 strix. It's even overclocked.

He's too lazy to RMA it, fucking idiot.

>>55810237

I bet a good portion of PC gamers don't even play on ultra settings

>>55810498
>It's still most purchased card in UK
I'm not surprised. It's been going up every month.
Mar '16: 4.93%
Apr '16: 5.10%
May '16: 5.13%
Jun '16: 5.24%

>>55810587
If you're poor, maybe cutting edge technology isn't something you should spend money on.

>>55810605
Sadly, 1440p@60FPS+ (prefebly 60-140FPS with an 144Hz adaptive sync panel) at Ultra with ultrasampling or nothing.

>>55810611
Hence why I'm not getting a gtx 1080.

I'm not so poor that I have to reduce my living standards for a graphics card, but I'm not rich enough to indulge myself to the latest top tier shit.

>>55810623
Don't forget, PC gamers also live on a diet of only Mountain Dew and Doritos.

>>55810623

Yeah like 5% of people actually play on that setting?

>>55810629
>Don't forget, PC gamers also live on a diet of only Mountain Dew and Doritos.
Tried it, don't like Mountain Dew.

>>55810636
As I said, sadly. Great experience.

>>55810638
Console peasant.

>>55810668
As I said, I only play >>55810623, so don't know about console peasants.

>>55810638

Wish I could have that experience too, but sadly I'm just a guy with a 970 and a i5 4460

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>>55810498
>I can have 2 970 gtx for less than a single 1070
Holy fuck. If it wasn't for the 3.5gb meme I'd so go for it.

>>55810913
SLI and crossfire are both dumb and you should never do it

>>55810940
They are not dumb, just badly utilized these days.
Multi GPU systems where amazing, like Voodoo with Glide.

>>55810722
You're clearly a console peasant if you can't even maintain a pc master race diet.

>>55811187
Nah, I'm just not a fat slob.

>>55810950
No, they've always been shit

Had SLI 6800GT. Shit

Had crossfire HD 4850. SHIT

Had crossfire HD 5870 SHIT

Last saw: SLI GTX 770. Shit.

You'll never know until you actually do it. It's just the jews wanting you to buy 2 cards and get assfucked by it and go "I guess it's ok, I'll just update the drivers when they come out" "oh it didn't fix the problem with my non-AAA title.."

>>55811294
I have tried CFX and SLI several times, it actually got worse over time.
Have you tried Voodoo 2 in SLI with Quake back in the day, or Half-Life? It actually worked great.

>>55811332
I didn't because I had a voodoo 3 when I started

all I've experienced with crossfire and SLI is a 30% boost in FPS and a 20ms additional frame input lag (both nvidia and amd). You'd get 100fps and feel like you're getting 40fps, game would be choppier than single card but read a much higher framerate with horrible input lag.

Both AMD and Nvidia hype up new drivers for reducing framelag but it's always been the same shit. It just gets worse and they correct it back to "bad" and say it's improved.

>>55811267
So you're not a pc master race gamer?

>>55811374
I enjoy PC games and good hardware, dunno exactly about the gamer part. PC master race nonetheless.

>>55811368
Before Nvidia and AMD, multiple GPU's used for hardware acceleration actually split the screen in two, one GPU rendering half the screen, so you would never get any extended frame times or input lag.

>>55811387
>doesn't eat PC master race food
>thinks he's PC master race
Back to your gaystayion 4 you go console faggot!

>>55811503
Never owned a console, except ones that now count as retro.
PC master race is hardware related.
Eating shit food is purely gaymer culture.

>>55809799
founders editions overclock better than vendor cards in general

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>>55811503
this

>>55811529
Lol no, pure luck, some vendor superclocked cards have higher quality chips in them, already tested to sustain a good OC, with the founders editions you can end up with a bad silicon that won't clock at all.

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>>55811516
Kek, console peasant

>>55811403
At the cost of screen tearing and artifacting.
Dx12 will supposedly allow each gpu to draw frames independently and then cache it to a pooled vram frame buffer, exactly what had been asked for for years. Theoretically two completely dissimilar cards could work "together" as they would actually be completely independent.
Some really early examples from the AotS tech demo show that it can be done. You can find an article detailing it on andandtech.

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>>55811579
>jelly-ass sub-master race PC hardware faggit detected

>>55811605
>At the cost of screen tearing and artifacting.
Never had any, source?

>Dx12 will supposedly allow...
Old news buddy

>>55809433
>AMD might have shittier drivers, but still has better cards
The drivers affect how good the cards are. And AMD cards are loud and hot so fuck 'em.

>>55809538
>99% of the time, that is true. But there is something wrong with barefaced lying to your customers. And when nVidia's CEO came out and said "It is not a bug, it is a feature!" that was another slap in the face.
This is the type of shit a redditor would jerk themselves off over.

>>55809799
660 ti bro here.

Can't wait to upgrade to the 1060. I didn't expect to get 980-level performance (after OCing) on a mid-range card this gen.

>>55811784
Not him but your comment makes me feel like people here are dumber then people on redit.

>>55811943
I think you're a retard looking for an excuse to insult someone because they dislike reddit, and you dislike that.

>>55810237
Medium settings on PC still look better than consoles though.

>>55811953
What?
I just said that people on reddit are dumb, where did you see me saying that I like reddit?

>Not him but your comment makes me feel like people here are dumber then people on redit.
>dumber then people on redit.
>dumber

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>advertises as full 4GB's of VRAM
>effectively uses 3584MB of VRAM

>>55811961
Not with today's cheap console ports to PC

>>55811987
Nothing about my post implies that you particularly like reddit you fucking retard. You sure do belong there.

>>55811996
>Nvidia
>JewForce

>>55809413
I did pretty well off my 970 thanks, Had it for just shy of 2 years and sold it for £40 less than what I bought it for.

>>55812015
I would not dislike someone disliking something if I would not like it.

You sure lack basic logic. Maybe my point was right and your first comment was correct, idiots here are as dumb as on reddit, but won't degrade myself with going there.

>>55809422
Watch a 480 stutter to fuck and judder on GTAV too. thats even on shitty settings.

>>55812050
>I would not dislike someone disliking something if I would not like it.
There could be many reasons why you would. For example you might not want those people to signal their dislike for reddit on a 4chan thread, especially if it's irrelevant to the OP.

You sure are a retarded fucking redditor.

>>55809422
>lying on the internet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6MDUjFiUR4

it's such a popular card that many of the people i play gta online with have it and they've never ever had this fake problem you're trying to meme onto everyone.

>>55810229
this.

>>55810498
There's a 1060 for £229 on OCUK. Are you blind?

>>55812100
>not even using all the memory
yeah, whatever

>>55812065
G8 b8 m8, you must be talking from experience, sorry but I don't know about that, I don't go to reddit.

>>55812122
are you stupid or something? the original post (probably yours) blatantly lied about there being some massive performance drop when going over 3500mb. in this vid the game doesn't even go below 3600mb which puts that guys (or you) false claims to bed.

damage control harder.

>>55812148
See
>>55810484
Time goes on, they fix shit it drivers.

>>55812167
why has /g/ suddenly had a mass influx of thick cunts like yourself?

>>55812167
so you really are stupid then.

even if it is a cache (which it isn't) it would still be affected by the slower read write speeds if info/assets are required from that cache in the slower last segment very quickly (ie multiple read/write cycles at once). you retards don't even know what the situation is. its a non issue 99.9% of the time. why do you think there's not a single video anywhere showing that there's a vram limiting factor? hell, there are more videos proving that it's not an issue.

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>>55812167
The truth is that VRAM means very little these days. Even going from 2GB to 4GB makes almost no difference, pic related. That's why the 3.5GB to 4GB makes even less of a difference.

>>55812222
AMDfags are just desperate to grasp at straws

>>55812249
I'm actually a mad Nvidia user because I had to sell my 970 because the early drivers and the 3.5GB issue fucked my GTA V up and made it unplayable. Being honest here.

>>55812280
Me too.
Swear on me mom

>>55812249
they can't accept that the 970 is the most popular card in the world. they would die inside if they had to admit it.

>>55812292
Nevermind, don't give a fuck if anyone believe me. Won't respond to bait anymore from that post.

>>55812302
Having a gimped card as the most used GPU is pretty sad

>>55812280
never had that problem myself, nor did the majority of 970 owners.
But let me guess you sold it and bought a relaible gpu instead from another manufacturer...AMD?

Is 120€ too much for a Zotac GTX 750i 2 Gb?

>>55812385
Nah, just ate noodles for a week and bought a 980

>>55812418
Yep. You should be able to pick up a 7970 for that price if you shop smart

>>55812437
HD7970 cost much morw here. Wbat would be the best price for a GTX 750i be?

>>55812222
I have a 2GB card with the 7870(270x). It very much makes a difference.

>>55812222
VRAM mattering is conditional.

The reason why the 960 doesn't benefit from 4GB of VRAM is that it's not powerful enough to actually process/utilize it.

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>>55809813
Yes, better.

>>55813009
>using witcher 3 unironically as a benchmark
Don't.

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Can someone please post that 970 in flames beseige webm pl0x?
Pic semi-related

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>>55809813

Lol at nGreedia.. The way it's meant to be gimped.

AMD just jumped over an entire generation.

>>55813009
>my old R9 390 I got for half then price then a 1060 a year ago is actually faster than an 1060
Nice

>>55813024
It is a demanding game that can only be playable of a few cards when maxed out, also it's an Nvidia game, can't say that AMD is cheating

>>55813039
half the price*

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>>55813024

Happy ?

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>>55813035
>980 ti is faster than a 780 ti
Wow, it's almost like you don't want new cards to perform better than the old ones

>>55813168
Bait. Move along people, nothing to see here.

>>55813027
How can that even happen?

>>55813206
AMD.

>>55813305
Technically what happens? The CPU cooler not working well? Bad ventilation inside the case? Video card flaws? Too much power form the PSU?

>>55813056
you're not fooling anyone. it gets btfo by the reference 1060 in 3 of the 5 benchmarks.

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-red-devil-test/3/#diagramm-anno-2205-1920-1080

>>55809947
Nvidia's numbers will go up once they move back to hardware async compute.

>>55809947
>13.46% over 1.92%.
> >6x the failure rate in their tests Vs real world.
What in the fuck were they doing to those cards?

>>55813442
furmark 24/7 mang

>>55809934
I come from the dinosaur age and even I know how stupid your argument sounds R2-Dindu. All you have to do is post some links.

is getting r9 390s for cheap worth it over rx 480?

>>55813590
Yeah, but depends on how much usage it has gotten and how cheap

AMD Athlon X4 880K 4.0 GHz quad core + Zotac Geforce GTX 750 Ti 2GB

Is this a good combo for playing Team Fortress 2, Chivalry Medieval Warfare and other Steam old fps games at a reasonably high and stable framerate on 1920x1080 res at low settings?

>>55809369
Everybody liked the nazis before they smoked the jews

>>55813616
Should be fine for max settings for most steam shit.

Have you already bought it?

>>55813635
No, I haven't bought it yet. I don't care for look and graphics to be honest, I'm just looking for a rig that allows me to have a fluid and stable gameplay whenever I play and that it doesn't overheat too much. I want good performance on my fav fps games and I'm not going to play new gen games after all. Is a CM 212X enough to cool the cpu down? I'm thinking about getting a 144 Hz refresh rate monitor, would I notice a better smoothness compared to the screen I'm using right now on my Asus laptop?

>>55813356
RX480 torching mobos because drivers

Though it's fixed now

>>55813673
For less common steam games you'll be better off with nvidia, the 750 ti is great if you want to keep power consumption down, but there's always older options that'll perform better like the gtx 670 which should be at a similar price

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>>55810494
>Question is, will the lawsuit's result drop the 970's prices?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/28/nvidia_gtx_settlement/

>>55813811
Thank you. The GTX 670 isn't currently available here atm, but the GTX 750 Ti is more than enough for me probably. Is Game Debate a reliable source to check if a determined system is fine for a certain game?

>>55813830
based nvidia. $30 is a massive amount. they could have given everyone $5 and be done with it.

and they say nvidia doesn't care about their customers.

>>55813922
Don't forget they only just dropped support for their dx10 cards and the dx11 cards are all still getting game ready driver updates

>>55814185
>dx10 cards
Those exist?

>>55814195
Pretty sure my gtx260 was a dx10 card. It definitely didn't support dx11 but it was able to run gta v(horribly) iirc.

>>55813364

And the RX 480 obliterates the GTX 1060 in DOOM and other titles. As it stands, the two are pretty much equal. 6-12 months down the road the GTX 1060 will be behind/struggling to keep up.

>>55809947
>>55813442

Miners.

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>>55814827
sure it does.

>>55814185
>tfw friend with r9 390
>had to wait like 6 months to play gta because amd didn't release a dx11 driver

true story.

>>55815013
Wait do video cards have different performances based on the cpu they're paired with?

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>>55815036
are you serious?

>>55815055
Yes I'm a noob

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>>55815081
amd cards suffer more when paired with older or lower end cpu especially in dx11 but we can see its also effected in dx12/vulkan too >>55815013. notice how the amd card loses 30% of performance when shifting from a top end i7 to an older i5. the 1060 loses under 1% of performance.

http://pclab.pl/art60000-21.html

benchmarkers usually use the the best i7's to test gpu so there's little chance of any cpu bottleneck and so the reader can see the full potential of the gpu. in reality, most people wont have a top end i7 and will most likely have older i5's or even worse, especially if they're considering a budget mainstream card like a x80 or x60 series card.

>>55815151
What would be a good Intel cpu for a Nvidia GTX 750 Ti according to you? Maybe a i5-6400? I was going to pair it with an amd cpu, but many people advised me against amd cpu's...

>>55815238
a 6400 should be more than good enough for a 750 ti. i heard its pretty shitty for compared to a 6500 though and the 6500 is only slightly more expensive. if i were you i'd get the 6500 at minimum so you can upgrade to a nicer gpu in a few years maybe.

>>55815281
I see. Thank you very much. The i5-6500 costs only 20€ more than the i5-6400 here. I still have to get the gpu to be true, but I'm oriented towards the 750 Ti because I know that it can run the games I play very well. Is the Game Debate a reliable site to check gpu/cpu performance for games?

>>55815366
>game debate

probably not. just search youtube for similar gpu setups to what you want to buy.

here are some vids with a budget 750 ti build. take the results with a pinch of salt though because the cpu you'll be getting is way, way better than these budget dual core cpu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OE2iI7OLh8 (gta 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl2v0socpZY (doom - opengl)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IdofKeEsuE (forza 6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGf4SVWEw2g (witcher 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUjNIMhelyo (bf4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZsITS8_JAY (dark souls 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37CzgecyvTs (fallout 4)

and in this last video it shows how much better the 750 ti is when paired with a superior cpu. the 4790k gets about the same performance as a 6600k according to another digital foundry video so a 6500 shouldn't be too far behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi83biaquVE

>>55815467
thank you very much. I got the idea of getting a GTX 750i because of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av3ih3J2xkQ

Fistful of Frags is like my main fps game and this guy is playing it at a stable 100 fps on max settings at 1080p. I'm planning to play the game at low settings anyways, because I don't want excessive gibs and ragdolls. The guy in the video is using a i7-4770K though, I wonder if the performance with the i5-6500 would be sensibly worse. Btw he's using a GTX 750, shouldn't a 750 Ti be better?

>>55815151
My problem with that Hart is they don't show the old 750 over clocked

Its fucking 8 years old like my I7 920, but they don't even have it over clocked to 3.6 or even to 4.0.
Though Bloomfield shit starts to suck power like a whore at 3.8+ ghz

>>55815714
the 750 ti can be overclocked by like 15% so yes

>>55815789
Does i5-6500 perform much worse than i7-4770K?

>tfw you bought a fury and now your pc is a heater

>>55815927
in games, they're probably very similar. digital foundry thinks so anyway. if you're doing video editing and shit then the hyper threading of the i7 will obviously give a massive boost.

>>55815996
Ok thank you.

>>55812222
It wouldn't matter if it only had 3.5gb, but since it has 3.5+0.5, when the card tries to use the slower VRAM it fucks itself over

>>55809369
It was a pretty fucking nice card for the price point, basically the perfect price:performance for /v/ at 1080p with balls to the wall settings aside from maybe GTA5 is you push the textures way up.
I'm pretty happy with mine, 3.5memecard issue aside.

>>55810378
>gta v
yeah, sometimes after alt+tab to desktop and back to game memory bus load jumps like crazy and game goes to 20fps
but after alt+tabbing again it fixes itself

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>>55809369
The real mystery of the 900 series is why people bought the 960.

That thing was such a piece of shit it's amazing.

I'm just going to keep using my 390 for the next couple years I think.

>>55816604
it was good for what it was marketed for

Because g is always trying to be special and hipster so they hate popular things and love shit failuers like the rx 480

>>55809947
>The 200 series was over six years ago
Jesus christ.
It's not like this doesn't fit with where the brands target themselves these days. Nvidia is the high end choice and AMD the budget, with constant skirmishes in the mid range. It's understandable that their build quality would reflect this.

>>55816638
It's probably the worst x60 Nvidia has ever made.

>>55816784
because it was literally made for playing mobas a 4k.

>>55809799
>fanboys edition
>paying more for shit reference cooler
Nope.

>>55809947
>lets stress the gpu until it breaks
>lol it breaks, amd sucks
It still has higher failure rate, but the average user won't run Furmark or whatever the fuck their test is until the GPU dies.

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>>55809947
>those Fermi #s

>>55809369
>a company falsely advertising their product is completely okay guise