> W10 Anniversary Update comes out soon > W10 Enterprise

i learned from buying vista that upgrading to the next biggest thing is a HORRIBLE mistake, and to always wait until it's clear how good or bad it is. Blind consumerism allowed this to happen, and folks like me who use win 7 or 8.1 that knew better find it fucking hilarious.

seriously vista left such a bad taste in my mouth i ended up using xp until 2014.

>>55802945
Group policy editor isn't going away, but some policies will not be enforced on Home/Pro.

It is pretty bullshit, though. I imagine they will reneg on the changes once business and work complains.

>>55802945
As far as I can tell, Cortana was never really "Disabled" anyway, it just didn't say the word "Cortana" in some places, and it only allowed basic file seraches.

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>>55802945
> Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro
You could still do the edits through regedit. Until they fucking remove that too.
Guess I'm going to overuse my preactivated w7 iso for another few years.

>>55802945
Windows 10 was a mistake since the very beginning.

>>55802945
> Cortana
Probably even less used than Siri and Ok Google.

>>55803012
>You could still do the edits through regedit. Until they fucking remove that too.
They already are. The registry settings do nothing on Home/Pro. They are just ignored by the OS.

>>55803035
What's the point of a os that doesn't allow us to use our """personal computer"""

>>55803010
It also allowed web searches.

>>55802945
Also higher system requirements:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-anniversary-update-will-require-more-ram/

get wimtweak

@echo off
cd /d "%~dp0"
echo Uninstalling Microsoft-Advertising...
CLS
install_wim_tweak.exe /o /l
install_wim_tweak.exe /o /c Microsoft-Advertising-xaml /r
install_wim_tweak.exe /h /o /l
echo  Microsoft-Advertising should be uninstalled. Please reboot Windows 10.
pause

Is this the update with bash?

the only time i've used cortana is the xbox one preview version. everything she can do on there can be accomplished faster using the controller or a usb keyboard

2020 year of linux desktop

>>55803165
I don't know, I still think you could get away with the 32-bit version on 1 GB RAM if you disabled absolutely everything and powershell-wiped all the crapps.

>>55802983
The thing is, a lot of people DID wait, and after almost a year of other people shilling it, they thought it was the best Windows iteration yet.

And then Microsoft started doing this out of nowhere.

>>55803065
Good question, why don't you ask MS? It was hard enough giving away Win 10 for free. They are in for a rude awakening if they really think people are going to pay for the priviledge of losing control over basic aspects of their computer.

>>55803220
2016 has been an amazing Linux desktop year for me. Made the switch in November and have not regretted it since.

>>55803297
but muh games?

>>55803318
I don't play games on my desktop, and never have, so it hasn't affected me.

do not upgrade to win10. security updates for win7 last until 2020.

why would want an operating system that can tell microsoft whether or not you have pirated games on your system? why would you want to be part of the information collection botnet? who the fuck needs all that dumb shit in the start menu? why do you want your data stored on external cloud servers beyond your control? why do you want to use an operating system that turns its telemetry back on after updates - updates that you can't even choose whether or not to receive? why would you want to have an os that doesn't let you actually control anything?

(that being said, you can actually just get win10, make installation media for it, and then revert using the rollback tool or a system image, and then that machine is entitled to win10 in the future at any time for free)

I mean, uh, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

>>55803220
>>55803297
>tfw linux is a largely inferior experience for me and it's pointless to switch unless I want to torture myself

setting your connection to metered enables you do defer updates (equivalent to the old "notify but let me choose when" setting)
The option only exists for wifi connections though, but there is a reg hack you can use to enable it on ethernet

>>55803297
Linux has improved immensely in the last year. I use a rolling release distro, and never experience any problems. I remember having issues all of the time even in LTS distros a few years back.Life is great.

>>55803381
K, it enjoy it more than Windows. Here's your (you)

>>55803181
I don't have that crapp on my Win 10 install. How does it get on there?

>>55803415
I'm glad you enjoy it.
I'm just saying that switching to linux is not an option for a bit of users.

It's time to move back to GNU/LINUX.

>>55802945

ubuntu you shitty memeboi

>>55803425
its on every w10 except enterprise

>>55802945
Enterprise doesn't require a subscription. That is optional.

>>55803425
start a cmd or powershell, run the Get-AppxPackage -allusers command, you should find it there somewhere

>>55803502
I just dumped that to a text file and searched for it, no results.

>>55803433
I know it's not, I'm just happy that it's been amazing for me personally. I finally have control over my computer again. Every problem I had with Windows is gone. I had no idea what I was missing out on all these years. Now it would be perfect if things like Photoshop and Visual Studio would come to Linux (some of the alternatives are butt). But nothing is ever perfect, I'm afraid.

>>55803527
which version of w10? did you run any privacy programs since you installed it? some of the bats and scripts posted over the last year included the removal commands

>>55802992
>I imagine they will reneg on the changes once business and work complains.
sure they will.

>>55803572
I did not run the "Nuke everything" script because I wanted to keep the store app intact. Other than that I use O&O ShutUp 10 and Spybot Antibeacon. Those don't remove any apps, they only change registry settings and add shit to the hosts file.

>>55803612
>"Nuke everything" script
where can I get this?

>>55803671
its here somewhere https://github.com/dfkt/win10-unfuck

>>55802945
>Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro
Wincucks getting C U C K E D

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Is windows 10 better than 7 in any way?
No, i'm not talking about the botnet.

>>55803759
is it the win7/8 unfuck tool? the crap updates check and uninstall?

>>55803980
>Is windows 10 better than 7 in any way?
I would say "Only if you're a gaymer (DX12)" but if Vulkan takes off (and it should) there is no advantage left.

Stay at 7.

>>55803980
slightly faster boot times, slightly lower ram usage, and dx12.

that's about it, really.

>>55802945
>spying
>Source
Your ass.

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>>55802945

>W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription

It doesnt, it is optional alternative pament model for bussines.

>Cortana can't be disabled at all

She can, by Group Policy editor. Also, a lot of language versions (that still comes with English or can simply get installed proper language pack) comes without Cortana in first place.

>Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro

It is not, gpedit is still there, only few policies change to "Enterprise/Edu only". This include Win 10 tips or lock screen disable option, but not critical ones like telemetry control, updates delivery options or web searching/recommended sites.

Holy shit, you guys now need to blantly lie in order to get those replies?

Here is some for you, if you want them so badly.

>>55804114
t. Rajesh Kumar

>>55804114
>only few policies change to "Enterprise/Edu only". This include Win 10 tips or lock screen disable option
But what if i want to disable the lock screen.

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>> Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro
Is that true? Jesus Christ.

>>55804140

>I d-dont have any argument, b-b-better call him Indian, t-that always work!

More sad than funny, honestly.

Im from Poland, not India, if you are so curious.

>>55804141

Then yes, thats a problem. I dont see a reason to remove lock screen but still.

>>55804145

No, OP wants those sweet replies to feel better.

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/microsoft-removes-policies-windows-10-pro/

>>55804114
>Can be disabled from the group policy editor
>The same group policy editor that's being restricted for pro and under users
>Even though MS released news a few days ago saying that she can't be disabled at all.
You're a terrible shill. Seriously, you're blatantly lying. Fuck you

>>55804082
>>55804083
Thanks.
I'll stay on 7 then.

>>55802945
I already moved back to 7

Sorry curry niggers, I need GPE

>>55804202

You can check the list of affected policies yourself. Shouldnt be hard, there are four, you dont even need more than one hand, another can remain in pants.

Everything else stays as it was. GP editor is still there, providing its functionality, not going anywhere.

>Even though MS released news a few days ago saying that she can't be disabled at all.

Yes, she cant be disabled in Settings "app"... but policy related to disabling Cortana is not blocked on Pro and will remain here after next update. In other words, you can still disable her.

What they said was true, from certain point of view. What I said is also true. It all depends on how you provide the info.

>>55804226
you should still have a win10-ready machine though, in case you want to take advantage of dx12. see >>55803357

also here's a decent vid on dx12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HLWe4-GI9k

>>55802992
let me guess. wuauserv will not be stoppable anymore

fucking kikes

>>55804444
correct, mr. quads.

do you think they'd really be pulling this shit if they weren't so certain hillary would be getting elected?

>>55804114
maybe but what's going to happen next?
Fix the hole and make the user unable to bypass all that shit
force a subcription for update and features?
more ads?
M$ taking full control of your computer?

if I dual boot Windows 10 with Linux will I be affected by the MS botnet?

>>55804570

You forgot to add that MS will make your computer explode, if you will try install Linux distro. Surely they will!

>>55804584
>will I be affected by the MS botnet?
only every time you boot into 10. but you can just unplug your ethernet before booting into 10 every time, in order to disable all that shit again.

So i downloaded the win10 isos before the free offer ended, did i do good or will the spying never be removed from that OS?

>>55804655
so if I understood you correctly there is no way to avoid the botnet with w10 on your computer even if you mostly use linux.

well except for going out of your way and unplugging the ethernet cable?

>>55804779
you can avoid it, you just have to put in effort. every time it restarts after updates, a lot of telemetry points will be reactivated. you just have to go through and disable them again before connecting to the internet.

but yes, it's ridiculous.

>>55804501
>>55804444
Haven't heard anything about that. Even the "unstoppable" Windows services like the ones that update live tiles can still be disabled by registry changes.

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>>55804847
what the fuck, all the basic telemetry settings reset after each update?

>>55804889
not all, but some. and it changes depending on the update. I have a friend who's been making a list of which ones were reactivated after every update, after about 10 updates it basically runs through the whole list, so if you aren't checking regularly you'll end up with almost all of the shit back on.

>>55804871
>can still be disabled by registry changes.
for now.

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>>55804889
Yes, every single time you update they reset. Fucking hate Microshit.

>>55804145
>Is that true?
No, it's just crippled. They are removing options in it so you can't use it to do shit like disable ads.

>>55805007
>I have a friend who's been making a list of which ones were reactivated after every update, after about 10 updates it basically runs through the whole list, so if you aren't checking regularly you'll end up with almost all of the shit back on.
God damnit that is so shady. What a bunch of sleezoids that make this shit.

>>55804201
>I don't see a reason to remove lock screen
I don't know dude, maybe because some people are using a fucking desktop? Desktops don't need lockscreen.

>>55805007
As far as I can tell, only major updates re-enable parts of the OS because it's basically a full replacement of Windows kernal, like an upgrade from one version of Windows to another (8->8.1)

>>55803357
>and then revert using the rollback tool or a system image, and then that machine is entitled to win10 in the future at any time for free

You say this, but both a rollback and ssytem image caused my video drivers to constantly crash after that, almost as if the video card was dying.

Then I went back to W10 and it works smoothly again.

thanks microsoft

>>55805591
yeah, a lot of people were saying it basically ruined their hardware. some people even said it "broke their ram." fucking win10 man, ridiculous.

>>55802945
I-if I curl up in a corner and hug my pillow do you think they won't see me, or will they still notice me and demand I drink another verification can?

>>55802945
The stupid consumer base
> but it`s free and it just werks
Microsoft execs
> fish on, lets bag`em and tag`em, time to profit.

Win 10 cucks squealing about the changes Microsoft is making makes me face palm. You stupid fucks gave them complete control over your OS, now stfu and deal with it. Should have read your terms of use agreement before you installed or bought the newest greatest thing since sliced bread. Lmfao.

>>55805591
Wait so even if I make a clone disk using Macrium Reflect or whatever and restore my W7 it can still brick my shit?

>>55803980
skymeme support

literally cucked by the good old intel microshaft combo

probably zen will require it too..

>>55803980
There are some things about it that are better. It doesn't really improve on the Windows formula though. It's still a clunky pleb OS.

20hrs b4 the deadline, should i upgrade for free or can you pirate that shit?

>>55802945
people worried by this kind of shit will be laughed at in a century, as much as those retards thinking Halley's comet would hit the earth in 1910.

you seem to be unable to judge the proportion of simple things: those tiny changes in win10 are pretty much irrelevant.

you must expect tons of this stuff in the next years and decades, and nobody will be affected by that in the least.

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>>55807429

>>55807429
hello pajeet

>>55807429 (You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwZUQP3oc6E

>>55807429
The smell of curry is over 9000

Yo guys need some help. So I just reset my PC to finish installing something. I turn it back on and I've come to a login screen, I've never had to log into this thing before, its always just gone straight to desktop. The account it's asking me to log into has a stupidly long password that I have saved in a password manager. Obviously I can't get to it because I'm locked out of my fucking computer. My email address that is the recovery email also has one of these stupidly long passwords. Is there anyway to bypass the login screen? Also feel free to berate me for being a fucking idiot

>>55804501

>do you think they'd really be pulling this shit if they weren't so certain hillary would be getting elected?

Hillary will go to jail, Trump will win the election, but he will be assassinated shortly after. Screencap this post.

>>55807861
>but he will be assassinated shortly after
pls no, just let hillary die

>upgrade to win10 on the last possible day
>wait until it says "this device has a digital entitlement" and revert to win7
>nothing is broken, no problems, telemetry is easy to remove
>no programs uninstalled, no games are glitchy
I am the luckiest man on the planet.

>>55802945
>> W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription

The original payment system is still there you parroting fuck

>>55802945
>Group Policy is still here on 14393, some rules were removed...

>>55808651
>take old HDD
>plug that old slut in
>install windows 7 on it
>let windows 7 update and all that shit
>get win10 prompt
>"upgrade" to windows 10
>Check that its genuine, it is.
>reboot Recheck, still good
>unplug old hdd
>plug regular drives and ssd back in
>chuck Old drive into drawer in antistatic shit
>????
>Walk the dinosaur

>>55809125
yeah, would be nice if I had an extra drive.

Anyone have a guide to disabling telemetry on W7?

>>55809125
What if you're too clueless to even install w7?

>>55809428
Have to cloud do it for you, of course!

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>>55803266
>out of nowhere.

Just pirate Enterprise and run KMSPICO then the group policy editor is there

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>>55803266
>out of nowhere.
>of nowhere.
>nowhere.
>.
>And then Microsoft started doing this out of nowhere.

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>>55803266
>out
>of
>nowhere.

>>55802945
>2016
>using windows

>>55809450
I don't even know how to cloud. I'm a senile geezer that just wants to save some money and stop W7 from nagging and fucking with me at the same time.

>>55803980
right click on windows button opens up everything you ever need
everything else is the same, and flat UI feels better

>>55807861
pretty sure that post alone constitutes a federal offense and a threat to our country. hope you enjoy prison buttraping.

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>>55809125
>Install Win 10 on virtual machines
>Feed it a different OEM/COA key each time
>mfw half a dozen Win 10 keys upgraded in 30 minutes

so, do you expect price drop by the end of the year? how long does it take for MS to reach breaking point?
yes, I would have to buy w10 for dx12 next year

>>55809751
MS will quickly realize no-one is willing to pay actual money for their shitheap OS and go right back to giving it away for free, or upgrades for $20 or some shit.

They will start locking it down now the free upgrade is over.

Their goal is clearly to force all programs to go through the windows store and disable conventional windows programs.

The question is how hard are they going to push for that to happen.

>>55802945
> W10 Anniversary Update comes out soon
> W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription
You've heard of piracy and activation and bypassing and other things, yes?
> Cortana can't be disabled at all
Oh really?
> Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro
Bullshit

Microsoft is desperate to enforce Win10 to everyone in order to improve their EcoSystem to the level of Apple, since their ecosystem is pretty organized.

There will ALWAYS be workarounds around EVERYTHING if there are enough people to dedicate themselves on a problem, they'll fix it.

I understand that some of you feel comfortable using Windows. Be patient, workarounds will be available.

>>55802983
I'm really contemplating going back to 8.1 myself, all these changes that I'm hearing are really unnecessary and takeaway the users freedom!

>>55803035
Why is that interface there still, not only does Microsoft take away control but keeps a haphazard interface.

>>55809597
use the Aegis script then

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>>55809705
>the key is tied to the motherboard
>implying you wont have to contact support 30 times
>the fuck do i need more than one key for anyway

enterprise always required a MSDN subscription

>>55802945

>Work with Linux at work
>Was running Linux at home for years on/off because of games
>Switched to Windows 10 for better game compatibility
>Switching back to Linux tomorrow

I just can't trust Windows anymore.

Lads, I know there are a lot of win 7 users in here.
I had to reinstall 7 the other day for the first time in about 5 years, due to getting an SSD.
Fucking daz loader won't work on it any more, and the activation countdown has started. What the fuck do I do, any ideas?

>>55810021
bullshit.

>>55810042
What part is bullshit? Daz loader not working?

Summarise to me what happened now when w10 isn't free anymore

>>55810053
Yes, unless you for some reason updated it before running it

>>55810060
Updatesd were disabled during the install process. They have not been enabled since.

I've googled the fuck out of this and there are plenty of other people with the same problem. I tried a few different things (toggling legacy mode, changing Profile, ignore existing SLIC etc) and nothing fucking works. Driving me up the wall.

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>>55810021
then use this one

>>55804114
>It's only a few settings g-goys
>Next month they remove gpedit and regedit even for enterprise subcriptions.

>>55810094
try KMS then

>>55810110
The plural form is goyim, you stupid goy.

>>55810021
Use an older version of win 7.
You're not updating anyway so it doesn't really matter.

>>55810139
>Use an older version of win 7.
I've had this install disc for seven years dude.
>>55810099
Cheers, gonna try this.

>>55810099
Shit looks shady as all hell.

>>55810099
This didn't work. Pretty sure I'm haxxed by russians now as well.

>>55810267
beats being haxxed by cia niggers tho

>>55807861
Reported. Enjoy the visit.

>>55809899
What Aegis script? How?

>>55802983
Can confirm, I find it fucking hilarious.

Because we told them.

>>55810325
I'd take being haxxed by either right now if they would actually activate my copy of windows.

>>55810354
aegis voat

google it

>>55810410
Did you try calling tovarosh?

>>55810426
The only thing I didn't try was sacrificing a chicken.

I did smash a pretty fresh egg up though.

>>55810416
>Something about no longer being updated due to admin faggotry and censorship

Huh? I got 1.18 version downloaded but is that okay? How do I even use it? Will it work given how it's abandoned?

>>55810504
fuck if i know, used 1.17 ages ago and never seen the win10 update

If your current motherboard will last you a few more years and you plan on having a GPU that can do Direct X12, upgrade to Win 10 and downgrade imminently to keep that option open in the future.

If you're current machine is a non gaming laptop or was a PC built in early 2012, don't even bother with that, unless you really think you'll have the same hardware in 2020.

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>>55803381
this
those pirated proprietary softwares require a pirated proprietary operating system to work
how else would you game and record your gaming and edit your gaming recordings?
>pic related, is me waiting for mom to come home from work, she's supposed to bring me a new dual shock controller with a turbo button!

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Making the linux leap.
See you fellas on the other side.

>>55804889
Lots of things reset after updates on Windows 10, it is annoying as shit.
I have to fix my sound driver and NVidia settings after every update, as well as notification settings.

>>55810808
I dual boot myself.

I'll need a windows boot as long as music production remains shit on Linux.

>>55802945
This is why I moved to a hackintosh. Because not only does my OS not send my fiancee's nudes to the NSA, I trust a hacked up OS X to work more than any version of Windows.

>not imaging your drive, upgrading, extracting the serial number, and then reverting

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>>55810866
>year of yahweh 5776
>still using windows at all

>>55802945
>> W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription
Completely False, there are no changes to Volume Licensing and SA.
There is now an additional subscription tier for small business who could not previously obtain enterprise edition.

>> Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro
Very Disingenuous/misinformed/bordering deliberate fallacy - Several GPOs have been locked to Enterprise/Education/Server, 95% of GPOs still work on Windows 10 Pro, and the GP Editor is still there.

>> Cortana can't be disabled at all
This is about the only thing that's mildy true, turns out it can still be disabled, but the change itself is disturbing. I'll give you a point for this one.

>>55810896
fake and gay

>>55809865
No. Remove yourselves from the cancerous windows platform for good.

Get a Mac.

Install PC-BSD.

Hell, install a Linux distro if you need to. Just GET. OFF. OF. WINDOWS.

>>55810866
>extracting the serials number
You obtained a worthless number anon...

All 'digital entitlement' activations use the same serial number...

>>55810924
Nice rebuttal.

>>55810942
>It's cancerous because I don't like it.
>Stop liking what I don't like

NEET's shouldn't be allowed to have opinions.

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>>55810973
>all people with anti-Microsoft opinions are NEETs
Poo in the loo

>>55811007
Professionals may have preferences in operating system, but aren't so foolish as to disparage another system and especially not to make lies about another system.
In reality a professional will see an Windows system and see dollar signs thinking of all the extra support callouts.

NEETs on the other hand are generally fanboys who take great offense when someone chooses something toher than what they have chosen - as they have nothing else in their lives but those choices.
To choose something other than their preferred OS is to insult them directly as they somehow feel their choice has been invalidated and by extension they have been invalidated.

I'd say you're the latter, not the former.

>>55809923

>>55809923

>>the key is tied to the motherboard
It's virtual, I don't think it matters.

>>implying you wont have to contact support 30 times
The entire activation process is automated over the phone now. No talking to Pajeet involved.

>>the fuck do i need more than one key for anyway

I kind of got a shitload of hardware laying around to install keys on, and I buy cheap shit off fleabay all the time to throw SSDs into.

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>>55802945
No. Stick with Madobe.

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>>55810956
>You obtained a worthless number anon...
>All 'digital entitlement' activations use the same serial number...

fuck my life

>>55802945
Enterprise versions of Windows have needed a subscription for years, aka Software Assurance. They are actually lowering the price except for large orgs. There are no plans to introduce subscriptions for home versions of Windows. It would break their OEM agreements if they did that: they are planning to charge directly, from... about now, actually. If you think you might want a current version of Windows rather than legacy shit, upgrading now would be a good time. If not, install Gentoo etc. I know none of my software, going forward, will support downlevel versions of Windows.

Cortana is not quite what you think it is, can still be disabled via Group Policy on Pro, and in any case you've been using it all along as it is the core of the Start menu's (crap) search. You can still tell it to not personalise, although yes I question the validity of that decision, because Cortana is some putrid shit.

Group Policy is still there, just 4 of the settings are non-functional in consumer versions of Windows. None of them particularly deal-breaker, they were all oriented towards Enterprise desktop management. It is still concerning they would remove features (except that WiFi thing, that was a stupid idea in the first place). We may simply put them back in forcibly if people miss them.

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>>55811072
In japan they made the first cyborgs with volunteer donors who's brains were transplanted into robotic mannequines

>>55803209
Yes. I think you will need to add it from the Windows Components and it is still kinda beta, but by popular demand it is going to be available to install for everyone, not just beta-testers ("insiders").

>>55811050
The fact that people on /g/ unironically use an OS that's so shit that technicians see dollar signs just looking at it is astonishing, in addition to the privacy concerns (memes or not). But it's not my problem if NSA agents fap to the porn collection Pajeet's computer sent them on its own.

>>55811095
>We may simply put them back in forcibly if people miss them.
>We

Don't even need a trip huh?

OK, not tech illetrate here, but newfag nonetheless, is it possible to install windows 7 on recent and natively win 10 desktop ?
http://m.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00137672.html
Please no bully

There are two types of people

People who use Windows:
>this means they're a normie
>they most likely use android or iOS
>both which spy way more than Microsoft
>they most likely use Mozilla or Chrome, Gmail, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts, etc too
>all which spy on the user

People who don't use Windows:
>who cares?

If you already use Windows, the spying concern with Windows 10 is just hypocrisy since everything else you use spies way more. If you're really paranoid, you can block MOST of it via programs like Spybot Anti-Beacon and Peerblock.

And if you don't use Windows, then who cares. You're not going to be using W10

>>55810896
6 rupees have been deposited into your account

>>55802945
>tinfoil hat, the thread

>>55804114
lol thanks Nutella

>>55803980
if you wear a tinfoil hat and you think Microsoft will fuck over paying customers by spying on them, and permanently labeling themselves as scum and never getting customers again, then stay on 7

>>55811483
nothing to hide nothing to fear am I right

>>55802945
> W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription
>now
stopped reading there

>>55811468
>both which spy way more than Microsoft
How do you know?

>>55811560
>stay on 7
That's the plan, chief

>press the "upgrade now" button in the dedicated upgrading window
>nothing happens
gg microsoft

Fucking windows 10 changed the boot process and force you to reboot every time your reboot to get to windows 7.
Fucking windows 10.

Oh and win10 comes with so many things it's annoying, you've got cortanan even through I said I didn't want it in the preinstall config (wtf are the settings for if they don't work?!)
Changed basic interface shit to make useful thing even more clicks away.

>>55811792
And this shitty installation made my other win7 on another partition an unlegit install. What the fuck !

>>55811792
Literally everything is one click away shill

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4v26hz/microsoft_removes_policies_from_windows_10_pro/?limit=500

Oh man, even the biggest concentration of shills and cultists is getting tired of their shit

>>55811792
>Fucking windows 10 changed the boot process and force you to reboot every time your reboot to get to windows 7.

I don't get it, do you mean that after you rolled back to 7 whenever you turn on your computer you needed to restart it again just for it to work?

>>55811854
I made another clean install on another paritition with win7pro (activated by daz 2.2.1), upgraded to w10

Now when I start the computer it enters win10 boot thing where I choose between win7 and win10, when I choose win7 it has to restart the comp.
It adds ~15seconds to the boot process. thanks m$

>>55811854
I've read similar reports of win 10 upgrades and updates suddenly losing and changing boot orders from SSD drives, etc

>>55810099
> Windows 7 Loader Extreme Edition
It's just a botnet shell for DazLoader. DazLoader is fine

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>>55811064
she is madobe as well

>>55811876
because of hibernation/fast boot?

>>55810099
>daz loader
why not kms pico? i've used it on win 7, 8.1, 10, server 2008 r2, server 2012 r2, and office 2016 with no issues

>>55811930
probably, stills sucks they modified the boot like that.

>second hand GPU that was in pretty much perfect when I got it, had been working perfectly for the two weeks I've been using it suddenly bricks when I update to 10

Co0incidence or Illuminati?

>>55811904
they did something different since it isn't killed by the daz loader killer update.

>>55812025
If you're using fast startup you can't switch OS without restarting first, that's how it works, otherwise it would fuck up your file system.
Why are you even using fast startup, you know it's a gimmick, right?

>>55812069
>Why are you even using fast startup, you know it's a gimmick, right?

>implying I made that choice at any point during the installation

So I can disable it. Cool. rebooting one last time in w10

>>55803220
>I have MS to thank for switching to desktop Debian full time after years of administering terminal only Linux servers
>My laptop works better than ever and I spend less time fixing things than I did in Windows
>MS and Windows 10 are making year of the Linux Desktop a reality

Thank you MS
Thank you Windows 10

>>55810021
could be you loaded that in uefi and daz doesn't work with that

Nuke microsoft

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>>55811468
implications: the post

>>55811910
Is that actually happening now?

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>>55811560
>will

>>55804416
you need a dx12 card though,

>>55812147
Motherboard is from about 6 years ago. Is it likely to have uefi? I don't even know how to check.

Thing is, I've used this same windows disc and this same version of daz loader before and it worked. It's not like I have a new install disc or new version of loader. Left scratching my head a bit.

blame this poo in loo Satya Nadella

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjFSCkml2Lg

>>55812277
Yes.

Boot into the bios and make sure it is set to legacy boot as default and use gparted or something to make sure the SSD has a MBR partition table.

>>55812349
Right, cheers. Will do and report back.

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>>55802945
the ride never ends

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2466256/microsoft-mandates-tpm-20-support-in-all-windows-10-devices

>>55812349
OK well When I went to reboot, I remembered that I had last ditch tried a new random combination of shit in the loader and not restarted. I figured I better restart it once before messing with the BIOS shit, so I knew where I was starting from.
Fuck knows what I did, but it worked. It is now activated.
Hopefully I will not have to do this again for another 5 years now.

>>55803671
But, it doesn't matter really. You can edit the registry and host file all you want, so you expect Microsoft to play by those rules? It's like The Matrix, you can put up walls, but the ghost things in the second one don't play by the same rules.

>>55804584
Encrypt your Linux partition. This is a very tinfoil hat thought, but Microsoft *could* install crap in to your Linux partition otherwise. I can see them crossing that line, but they *could*.

So I wanna downgrade to 7.
Which iso is the best one?
Or should I just get an unactivated iso from microsoft and then use an activator?
There's a microsoft software that you can use to create usb install media right? What's that called?

>>55812517
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/67-microsoft-windows-iso-download-tool use this and burn it to dvd or use rufus

Also get daz loader 2.2.2 from piratebay. All antivirus think it's a crack. Which it is. After you run it is perfectly safe.

>>55812541
>crack
I mean hacktool or keygen or whatnot. Because that's what it is.

I want to use 8.1, but the fucking updates.

>>55812517
>downgrade
you mean upgrade?

download Win7 Enterprise and use MS Toolkit to activate

>>55812571
Updates are safe. Just use never10 or google how to block windows 10 shit "legit" way. The "spying" updates don't do anything since you never agreed to the new privacy shit that came with them. They can't legally do anything.

>>55812517
get a legit 7 ultimate+sp1 iso (check the hashes on microsoft.com) and activate with daz from mydigitallife.

everything else is retarded. oh and if you have uefi the activation might be different, not sure.

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>>55812591
>how to block windows 10 shit "legit" way

>>55812606
Group policies and registry. Those still work.

>>55812517
>>55812603
daz doesn't work on uefi, you have to use MS toolkit or something similar for that

>>55812617
UEFI is shit anywy

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>installed windows 10 today

Please spoon feed me about how to disable the telemetry because I lack the initiative to find out for myself

In return you can have this picture of Rei Ayanami who is a qt

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/000119312516662209/d187868d10k.htm
>In addition to the elimination of 1,850 positions that were announced in May 2016, approximately 2,850 roles globally will be reduced during the year as an extension of the earlier plan, and these actions are expected to be completed by the end of fiscal year 2017.

Is the ship finally sinking?

>>55804889
>>55805011

Funny, because they never did to me. Probably because I installed Win 10 after infamous bugged update that was fixed by MS shortly after. Single update, I must add.

I frequently wonder, if we are using two different OS.

>>55812684
>bugged
Sure

>>55812653

Open wide.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization#manage-your-telemetry-settings

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services

>>55812690

Yup, it was bug and they fixed it. I know you guys dont like MS but please, be a bit objective here.

>>55812377

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Heh.

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>>55812711

Thanks bro, it looks like a start.

>>55812736

Keep in mind that some settings (namely, "Security" level of telemetry instead of "Basic") are only for Enterprise/Edu editions. Plus, Group Policies, in many cases, override registry settings.

Also, Asuka>Rei.

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>>55812730
>not using Ublock Origin™

>>55812730
>be a bit objective here.
With all the shit they've pulled so far they've lost every right to any benefit of the doubt

>>55812768

Yeah, I use Ublock Origin.

>>55812792
then you should be able to bypass it anon

>>55812673
What does that even mean?

>>55812877

Somehow, I couldnt.

Unless I miss something.

>>55804501
do you really believe that trump is going to do anything about massive surveillance?

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>>55803297
>2016
>november

Just upgraded and posting on my new free upgraded shiny new OS
Stay paranoid, fags

> W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription
Not "requires", but SaaS is possible.

>>55812925
> paranoid
>> Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro
MS is gimping non-Enterprise versions, this isn't about paranoia.

>>55812881
That they will lay off 2850 more people the next 12 months.

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>>55812925

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> W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription

WHat. how in the actual.fuck does this work? No more updates if you don't 'subscribe' ???

> Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro


MAKE IT STOP

NUKE INDIA NOW!!!

INDIA DID WTC

>>55812942
Oh man fuck I'm staying up too late, I somehow read positions as positrons and got confused.

>>55812956
>W10 Enterprise now requires a subscription
False
It CAN have a subscription, but it isn't mandatory
>The new pricing tier will be called “Windows 10 Enterprise E3” and it means Windows has finally joined Office 365 and Azure as a subscription service.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/07/14/microsoft-confirms-windows-10-new-monthly-charge/

>Group Policy Editor is now disabled/removed from W10 Pro
That is false
Only certain policies were removed
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/microsoft-removes-policies-windows-10-pro/


Congrats on falling for the alarmist bullshit that OP is posting

>>55802945
Why not just install Gentoo?
It just works.

>>55813047
Because, captain Autismo, I don't want to compile every single program I want to install

>>55813065
I believe he was trying to be funny.

>>55813090
fun isn't allowed here

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>>55813065

>>55813002
>It CAN have a subscription, but it isn't mandatory
Yet, you mean.
If this were 6 or so months ago you'd be saying 'but you can disable cortana and the ads'

If you have an IQ under 40 you might not have noticed the pattern that windows 10 is going through.

>>55813101
let me guess, you were only pretending to be retarded, right?

so quirky and ironic

Here's my observation of how the real world functions:

Personal use: Android phone or iPhone.
Work use: Windows 7 or Windows 8 desktop.
School use: Macbook.

Windows 10 is irrelevant.

>>55813105
If only anyone read MS' press release

>CSP partners will be able to provide a subscription to Windows 10 Enterprise Edition as part of a managed service offering
Partners can now offer their business customers the ‘full IT stack’ from Microsoft
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/07/12/announcing-new-subscription-options-for-windows-10-and-surface-for-businesses/#IXqtEEy8oyX6QS1o.99

As in, this isn't a direct subscription from MS

This is for IT companies or VPS companies.


Also this

>Windows 10 Enterprise continues to be available through our regular licensing programs and is part of our newly-announced suites Secure Productive Enterprise E3 and E5 launching later this year.

>>55813112
>>55813065
>I don't want to compile every single program I want to install
that's literally (and I am using this word correctly) wrong you faggot

>>55813148
>Unlike a binary software distribution, the source code is compiled locally according to the user's preferences and is often optimized for the specific type of computer
>source code is compiled locally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux

Fuck off you turboautist

>>55813097
See where it lead to? Are you having fun now?

>>55803592
Microshaft knows if they piss off the last people buying their OS they are fucked.
They will do whatever the corporations tell them to and fall in line eventually.
I bet they are only going this sub route with Enterprise because corporations are just now around to getting into subscription based shit.
Salesforce and Box are just a couple of examples of how corporations enjoy getting dicked.
These techs are fairly new so it will take a couple years for the corps to notice a .00000001% increase in doing business and they will go ape shit.

>>55813190
I just said fun isn't allowed here

what the fuck kind of question is that

Why is the Microsoft Toolkit considered Malware on Avast?

>>55813217
Oh, sorry. I thought you were the other guy being sarcastic.

>>55813219
>illegal activation tool
I don't know why?

>>55813219
All good AV think that. Because how it works.

>>55813219

Because Avast is overreacting frequently.

He called my own programs, doing only data fitting, "malware", for no reason. Is creating 200+ .dat files something malware would do?

>>55813219
because avast is shit now

>>55813259
>Is creating 200+ .dat files something malware would do?
Um. Yes?

>>55813240
>>55813243
>>55813259

I see, well I use Avast/Malwarebytes/Spybot all at once, so it was weird how the latter two didn't say shit about it and was like "This is clean" but then Avast was like AIYOO HOLLL UP.

I guess given how pirated software usually comes to risks for bitminer/trojan/malware I just got used to assuming that was the case if I caught something. Shame on me.

>>55813270
I was recommended this around 2-3 years ago? Should I not use it anymore? Cause I know it seems to be active a lot, but I don't know any free alternatives that's good, Malwarebytes and Spybot don't seem to do jack shit for anti virus, well not free versions anyways.

>>55802945
>Cortana can't be disabled at all
Of course you can disable it and even remove it, stop saying shit

>>55813295
>Should I not use it anymore
it turned shit about a yearish ago

>>55813330
So what do we use now?

>>55809865

A million times this.

I'm shit with computers and even I figured out how to turn off the botnet by doing some quick Google searches. I even killed Cortana (doesn't appear in Task Manager). If I can do it, any of you can.

And like anon said, just pirate the fucking thing and don't give it any personal info.

And for all you scared of the botnet, the simple truth is the ONLY fucking way you can avoid it is by not giving it your info in the first place. I don't care if you have crazy hacking skills, if you register Windows under your name or have a cellphone plan that has your personal info, or use social media giving it ANYTHING that can identify you, etc., you're fucked. All this telemetry bullshit doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.

I pirated win10, I bought a prepaid cell phone (registered under fake name/address), I didn't register my mac. There's no possible way not to feed the botnet. The important thing is give it nothing that traces back to you personally. Get a good VPN (several to choose form), a few addons (noscript/self destruct cookies/https everywhere), and protonmail for email and you'll be fine. Stop acting like a bunch of bitches about Win10.

>>55810942

I fucking love OSX, but even I will defend the need for Windows (have both). If anything, once configured, this is a GREAT htpc/gaming machine (at least with Vulcan is now is). Just wish I was smart/patient enough for Linux, but I've got a million projects right now and just don't have the time.

>>55813337
security essentials on your win 7 machine

>>55813337
Microsoft Defender + monthly Malwarebytes scan + Common Sense 2017 beta

>>55813360
>he's still on the 2017 beta
I'm laughing at you from my way over here with my 2020 Nuclear Holocaust edition of Common Sense.

>>55813359
>>55813360

Since when did MSE/MD get good enough? Or was it just a matter of Avast turning to shit and choosing the lesser evil?

I lack common sense, so that's a no go for me. The shiny buttons call to me.

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>>55813348
I have a desktop running Windows 10 and a brand new Retina Macbook Pro 13"...
I wanted to wait for the 2016 model but my 2011 kicked the bucket and it is the only machine I had available for while I was finishing up Summer classes/work at my university.
Having both OS is great and I wouldn't want things any other way.
Macbook Pros are amazing with battery life which is a top priority for me when I work 4 hours and have class for 5 then have enough battery left over to watch 2 hours of movies.

>>55813371
>Since when did MSE/MD get good enough
ever since I installed Common Sense 2014 pre-alpha

It prevents me from clicking those buttons

>>55813292

But it was easier than setting up several arrays...

>>55813392
Ah, then I fail the requirements as I'm already senile.

so it's confirmed then? Windows 10 Enterprise is the only good version of Windows?

>>55813537

Pretty much, yes. And Edu, if you happened to be a student or uni staff member, thats the same.

Bonus points if you have language version from region that dont support Cortana yet.

>>55813537
win10 enterprise ltsb is the best of win10 versions

ITT: faggots who actually thought W10 was a good idea.

Go ahead, upgrade. Do it.
I'll stay with my comfy as fuck W7.

>>55804570
>>55804570
waas is happening

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>>55813065
YOU JUST GOT PRANKED!!!11111xd

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>>55802945

>using windows 10 core, pro or entreprise
>not using server 2016 master race

You deserve it!

>>55813862
Windows 10 core? Server? And what makes those different than Windows 10 pro

>>55813862
>server OS
>desktop

Nah.

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>>55813862
stop shilling your meme server

>>55803318
Have a PC just for games

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>>55811560
>paying

>>55813933

Damage control, windows10fag.

>>55809597
GWX control panel

download it faggot

>>55811952
It's not even Daz.
European torrent sites have this disgusting "extreme loader", it's shady as FUCK.

Just use Daz or KMSPico.

>>55812653
>>Please spoon feed me about how to disable the telemetry because I lack the initiative to find out for myself
You can't.
The programs, the links, the hosts, they just partly work.

It's fucked. But no one cares about your weeb life anyway.

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Fuck this I'm buying a Mac. I'm done with Microsoft. All you paid shills on damage control can't fix this one.

I used to be a huge fan of them. Been using since Windows 95 and ever since Windows 8 they've been going downhill as a company.

It's over. This is the final straw. I'm not all that into Stallman's philosophy on free software, but even I can see that this is very bad. I'm sure normal users will too.

This is great advertisement for Linux and macOS. Just like how Windows Vista was for Apple.

See you all in hell I'm getting a Mac. Fuck Microsoft and fuck you cucks defending them enjoy your lockscreen advertisements you bitch.

>>55802992
Well business and work won't complain, those policies are still available for enterprise versions of windows

>>55809893
Get all the facts boi. Other registry settings still work and can be edited by that interface

>>55814640
>But no one cares about your weeb life anyway.

What if Microsoft find out what we are all fapping to?

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Enterprise does not need a subscription. It's an alternative model to VL.

>>55803065
They've taken on the apple model. You're "renting" it.

>>55814918
Hoo boy

http://searchenterprisedesktop.techtarget.com/blog/Windows-Enterprise-Desktop/Microsoft-lets-down-Windows-10-Pro-users

>>55803400
See but you're like totally different from the majority that complains about Windows; the most obnoxious complainers are the people who don't like to update their computers, at all, it's like they get off on deferring the task.

>>55814626
Link?

I don't know how to describe it but Windows feels less 'real' than it used to. Since the jump to Windows 8 and beyond, the OS just feels less substantial in a way I can't really explain.

>>55814937
Worst thing to happen: buttsex in jail

Best thing to happen: they see the interest and it causes the production of more of the things you enjoy

And if you do a bit of soul searching you know what's the likely outcome regarding your fetishes.

>>55814069
no one has ever bought a microsoft product
(yes i realize you are a bot parroting your maymays)

I'm kinda fucked. I've used insider previews and win10 pro for a what, two years now? They've seemed quite okayish and I pulled the trigger and said this spring to our corp board that we could migrate to win10 pretty easily.

Now, we have few remote offices with 10-20 windows 10 pro machines each.

I feel kinda betrayed by this move MS pulled.

Displaying ads on lockscreens in our office won't do. Win 10 pro licences are $200 a pop? And they're still showing ads down our throats?

Fuck me.

>>55815365
Blame the fucking poo in the loo CEO. Indians are never, NEVER, good at maintaining a huge company.

>>55811697
Facebook has profiles on people who aren't even on it.

>>55812204
If you use Windows and you're not a normie, you need to reconsider your life decisions

>>55818545
Says the NEET.

if I use tor on a router level and running win10 ltsb, am I at privacy risk?

>>55804444
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/29/windows_10_pro_anniversary_update_tweaked_to_stop_users_disabling_cloud_ads/

No but unless you are a business you can now enjoy your forced ads.

>>55811876
and this made your windows 7 unlegit too? would this happen if someone used a new harddrive instead of a partition?

>>55818699
don't use tor on any win10 YOU DUMBAAASS

>>55818694
I'm in education and have a job. What do you do?

>>55820838
I'm a developer for a multinational corporation. I already have my degree.

>>55820870
So you're doing less than me, making you more of a NEET.

>>55820893
Nah it makes me more informed about the industry. What you said is only said by NEETs or by retards.

>>55820933
I just proved your statement wrong, because I'm not a NEET and said it.

>>55813162
There are binaries for Gentoo if you don't want to compile everything. Just saying.