>Windows 10 >massive data collection effort >Jared Fogle

your whole hang up is based on Jared getting slammed? wow. almost /x/ tier.

>>55764279
I don't really trust it. Need it for Visual Studio, so I just keep it in a virtualbox and don't let it access the internet.

I'm not using it

Windows 7 until it's unworkable, Linux after.

Already partially using linux on peripheral devices.

>>55764279
>questionable things
What? If you want your files to stay on your computer and not on the NSA's, keep using 7. If not, feel free to install Winblows 10.

>>55764413
>7

Xp is only correct answer

>having something to hide

>>55764413
MS has been involved in PRISM for about a decade now. What makes you think W7 is safe from NSA?

>>55764279
It's not safe at all. Use Qubes+Whonix or something if you're doing shady stuff.

>>55764279
The Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display doesn't have this problem.

just don't use it then

>>55764435
Issues arised only after 8 was launched, and only after 8 WIndows is calling home like crazy. 7 is quiet.

>>55764432
Fair enough, for old PCs is fine, I don't buy into the "your pc is doomed and you'll get malwarez the first time you connect to the internet" bandwagon.

>>55764479
iOS is the operating system which started all this crap and made idiots believe they deserve to be degraded and spied on. What makes you believe that MacOs is any better?

>>55764493
It might not loudly broadcast home every 2 seconds but every version of windows since 2000 IIRC has a backdoor for the NSA built in to it.

http://www.itsecurity.com/security.htm?s=541

>XP is fine for old PCs
For old PCs you should install linux. You're not exactly going to be running the latest versions of photoshop on an old PC, and yes if you go around unprotected on XP you will get infected. Common sense rules don't help when your OS stops getting security patches. Actually my first time using linux was exactly because XP was going out and I didn't feel like upgrading. I installed crunchbang and it was amazing how much more speedy my awful PC was. It had 512MB RAM (usually about 486MB usable after the onboard graphics took their share) and under XP it used more than that just booting up. Linux used half of that on booting and made my PC usable again.

>>55764506
>iOS is the operating system which started all this crap and made idiots believe they deserve to be degraded and spied on

What's this about?

Will all my pirated programs work if I upgrade from 8.1 to 10? I'm scared to upgrade after hearing all the spy shit installed.

>>55764506

Apple users deserve to be degraded and spied on.

>>55764493
Windows 7 still spies on you, no question about it.

>>55764279
wtf are you talking about boy?? Upgraded from pirated 7 to windows 10 and everything just works as usual.


But where windows 10 really shines is on touch screen devices. Went from a Chromebook and android tablet to a 2-in-1 laptop, really comfy to use touch in bed with a fully functioning Windows instead of some freetard buggy piece of shit android

>>55764806
Yes, common sense helps, if you are not brain dead. It doesn't have to run Photoshop CC or whatever is the latest. It is enough to run Photoshop CS4 and Paint.NET 3.5.

>>55764806
>backdoor
So they can break BitLocker? NOthing new. For as long as they don't have remote access is fine. And that all started fom 8. Read the EULA (you can find it in pdf format for both 7, 8, and there's a whople page for 10).

>>55764826
>What's this about?
First OS that gathered info about you, to track where you are to serve you location based ads, directed everything through Apple's servers (iMessage is by default used), so they have your data. By default send yor files to iCloud, and so on..

>>55764279
My 2016 Retina Macbook with OS X El Capitan does not have this problem. In fact, Apple will do everything they can to defend me from corporate pressure if my encrypted drives were to be found.

>>55764968
>be terrorist criminal scum
>apple protects your data from authorities
>be torrent host
>apple gives your data to authorities
What did he MEAN by this?

>>55764866
>Windows 7 still spies on you, no question about it.
[CITATION NEEDED]

>>55765000
Apple gave their data to the authorities, not the KAT owner's data.

KAT owner's data: Name, location, credit card details etc
Apple's data: Server logs

>>55765004
>he thinks windows 7 is safe
lel, sounds like those freetards telling people linux is NSA safe

>>55765026
[CITATION STILL NEEDED]

>>55765034
Just open wireshark fucking retard

>>55765051
So you have nothing on your own.

>>55765062
>wants evidence
>doesnt want to view them in person by analyzing network traffic

>>55765074
Burden of proof, etc

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>>55765051
nothing

>>55764952
>Yes, common sense helps, if you are not brain dead. It doesn't have to run Photoshop CC or whatever is the latest.
Common sense says get the heck off your outdated OS. Browsers stopped being updated for XP already. Any vulnerabilities can be used to get a foot in the door, and once you get your foot in the door with XP you're basically home free. With security patches gone, there will never be a fix. Imagine if someone finds another vulnerability in XP's (kernel-space) font rendering. You don't have to do anything wrong. But all you have to do is view a crafted font and suddenly your computer is owned by someone else. Common sense can't save you when you're using a rotting OS.

And as far as photoshop I meant that someone using an old computer like that won't need photoshop, which is a reason a lot of people give for not switching to linux.

>So they can break BitLocker? NOthing new.
So they can break any encryption your system has. Say goodbye to your privacy.

>>55765087
dude the sky is blue
>[CITATION NEEDED AAAH]
no just
just look outside dude it's right there
>BURDEN OF PROOF REEE
dude just look outside man what the heck

I dunno man, still waiting for the guys to use explosive entry on my steel door and whisk me away from this 3rd world hell hole...

>>55765199
The sky is objectively blue, there's no doubting that. But there is no proof that Windows 7 spies on you.

kys

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>>55765199

>>55765220
And Windows 7 objectively spies on you. The proof is right in front of you if you'd actually look at it instead of shoving your fingers in your ears and screeching like an autist.

>>55765240
I've been running wireshark since posting this >>55765155
Still nothing suspicious.

>>55764506
what did he mean by this?

>>55765240
only if you didnt block the new telemetry updates, otherwise no, it doesn't.

windows 10 is the only os that is hard coded to spy on you.

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>>55765251

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>>55765240
>objective truth
>nothing to show for it

>>55765263
Fair enough.

>>55765290
>sky is objectively blue
>no proof
just look at it you tard

>>55765251
That is what they want you to think.

Its the master disguise, the ultimate con.
How can you truly know that is safe traffic not being intercepted by the master satellite?

>>55765304
I seriously want whatever you are having

>>55765326
Do you want me to spoonfeed that to you as well?

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>>55765343
Would be nice

>thinking anything you do on a device connected to the internet is safe
i dont get this meme?
how have you people accepted that nothing you do is safe and even your 4chan post are monitored.
get over it and live your life

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>>55764322

>>55765546
N O T H I N G T O F E A R

>>55765503
pls, I use Tor routed through 2 VPNs so that neither VPN knows that I'm connecting to tor while also knowing my real IP.

It's not as slow as you'd expect but still pretty freaking slow.

Also for some retarded reason 4chan blocks tor users so for here I'm just using the 2 VPNs.

>>55765588
and you dont have a google account? or any other account for any other major company? or have any games installed?
theres reason to believe blizzard has tracking stuff in overwatch because people are being banned on second accounts through vpns etc

>>55764394
linus torvalds makes linux for free. how does he have a stately home and 2 cars? because MS is paying him to put a backdoor in it. NO os is 100% secure. stop wearing a tinfoil hat and just use windows.

>>55765620
>google
Nope. I used to, so Google has quite a bit of my info but recently (past few months) I've very slowly started becoming more privacy conscious. I ditched all my google accounts. Never used facebook, but ofc they have the whole shadow/ghost profiling thing going on. I do have an android smartphone, but I've flashed it with AOSP and only use F-Droid except for a few cases where I've sideloaded apps that weren't available. I do have steam installed as well as a bit over a hundred games, but recently I've started keeping them contained in their own VM and I just pass through my graphics card, which unfortunately for the moment is nvidia running the proprietary drivers, but those are also limited to the VM. Outside the VM I use open source drivers for the intel integrated GPU.

>>55765503
Not happening

>>55765707
now may i ask
why?
why are you so desperate for privacy from an enemy that will never use its information against you in any way except to sell you things?

>>55765738
Are you people that detached from humanity? This is no longer trolling. These people are for real.

>>55765803
detached from humanity? care to explain or are you just going to vaguely condescend

>>55765859
Thanks for confirmation

>>55765738
Honestly I'm not sure. I've wondered a few times if maybe I got hit on the head too hard in the past few months. But I'm fine with ads. Targetted advertising? Sign me up. Targetted ads for something I'm actually looking for are a lot more useful to me than "Congratulations, you're the 100th visitor to this site."

I'm not fine with them storing information that could later be used against me. I'm also not fine with feeling forced into wearing a mask for other people. When you go outside and interact with people, you aren't "free" to speak your mind. You usually filter yourself to avoid consequences. In the privacy of your own home, you should be free to forget all the filters and just chill. That's my actual personal reason for doing it, but usually when talking with other people I bring up cases where surveillance has screwed over random people who did nothing wrong. There's one guy, I can't remember his name now, I'll see if I can find it later, but this guy went into a train station in kind of warm weather wearing a jacket. A camera in the area took note of this. A train comes and goes, and this guy doesn't get on the train. At this point the computer decides "alright this is screwy" and alerts humans, who then alert the police. He's then arrested and searched. Nothing incriminating is found on him, but now that the computer has labeled him as suspicious the people see everything about him only through those tinted glasses. A search warrant is obtained for his apartment and a paper with random scribbles suddenly turns into a map of the subway and a secret plan. To this day he's not allowed to get a passport or leave the country despite doing literally nothing wrong himself. He committed no crimes. This is the problem with surveillance. This kind of paranoia by authority only causes problems for innocent people.

>>55765881
so you chose the latter.
im not detached im accepting of the reality we live in, there's no point in fighting something that not only we cant stop it doesnt negatively effect us

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It doesn't matter if you're doing anything questionable.

When Mark Cuban was on trial for insider trading, the prosecutors looked through his emails and messages and took them out of context to make him look guilty. Literally, they saw a message he wrote to a friend saying that he hated losing (the context was the team he owned lost) and they used that message to ask him if he hated losing to the point that he would do anything not to risk losing money. It was fucking ridiculous, and it's the reason he suddenly started caring about online privacy in the last few years.

Pic related. This literally has happened already.

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I use 10, only thing that I "illegally obtain" is fucking anime and occasionally music. Only thing questionable is a few loli images on a drive. Does windows really give a fuck about that? You think the nsa honestly has the time and manpower to look through your shit? Trust me, you're not special enough. Come the fuck on.

Like I give a fuck though. Everyone everywhere is spying on you. I stopped giving a shit a while ago. Hell, your isp is probably collecting all your shit and selling it to the nsa as well. Hopefully it isn't that way in the near future but for now it is.

>>55765958
But if you are ever in a position where the NSA wants you guilty, you will be found guilty. Your computer will be searched through and they'll find anything you have to hide unless you take actions to prevent it prematurely. Obviously they're not going to find your loli just through the mostly passive surveillance they do. But throw out enough red flags and that passive surveillance will stop being so passive.

>>55765655
You are so fucking stupid.

>Windows 10 is released
>/g/ hates it and advises anyone from using it
>/g/ is now filled with Windows 10 users and is said to be the best Windows yet

ITT: americlaps worried about getting vanned

>>55766063
Real question though, how does he make money?

>>55766094
At least pretend you read the thread

>>55764279

Protip: The internet is not a secured network

Corporations and governments have been data-mining the internet since its inception.

>Internet access
>Privacy

Pick One

/thread

>>55766174
So we should lower our voices down and just let it keep happening?

>>55764279
>Jared Fogle got arrested mere days after installing it
>get ready for the paranoia porn

>>55766144
Make me, mom.

>>55766119
Shares in other linux companies. him and the linux foundation are paid for by making, by definition not botnet open source software, like SELinux, made by the NSA, but unbackdoorable, like all open source software

>>55766210
>Here's dad!
You better do what mom told you, boi!

>>55764832
Everything in my computer was pirated
Upgrade
Everything working after 5 months

>>55766263
>filthy pirate

>>55766094
That's the magic of summer.

>>55766187
Yes just lie down and get datamined like a good goy

>>55764832
There's no way checking that. The thing about stopping pirated software was for Xbone and the Store(apps) in the EULA. MS was lazy and straight up copypasted that same text to Windows 10 license.

Just a reminder that all that stuff about the evils of proprietary software you were warned about...
IT'S HABBEDING!!!
>wincucks will defend this.

>>55766417
Could I at least get a bellyrub?

>>55764279
You're already making it known that the NSA has something to investigate

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>>55765155
>>55765251
Windows can hide traffic from itself and deny blocking of that traffic in hosts because its hard coded.

You get fucky traffic running a VM with TCP dump on top.

>>55766263
>piracy
get a job you tard lol

>>55766428
tfw rms was right all along

>>55765895
>>55765738
Found it, his name was David Mery. http://www.journey.webbler.co.uk/?lid=65226&bid=2

Tracking is bad not because of targetted advertising, but because authorities or really anyone can use it to paint anyone in a bad light for the most innocent things.

>>55764479
It's a good thing you made the distinction bout the retina display
Are you implying the one without it does have this problem, or are you just Shill Jobs back from the grave?

>>55765738
Disgusting human being

>>55765026
without any updates, it can't spy anything. Yes, running this for 6 years now, without any problems. I never had a security hole that was used because I am not a fucking retard with routers with an open ass.

>>55769050
Linux is best but 7 is still way better than Window 10: Prison Edition

>>55765738
>aww fuck yes I have seen myself on TV! Somebody uses my private photos in ads without asking for my permission and this person make a huge amount of money with this. Yes it is so great to be usefull.
>Fuck yes, awesome, somebody earns money with the little stupid programs I wrote for myself. It is so awesome that he can say that he made it and that I lost all my rights to it! Yeah!
Seriously that has been the case in the past with random shit and it will happen again anyways, but why should that happen to you at random?!

>>55769103
Already dualbooting debian. Thank you.

>>55764279
Good. All pedophiles deserve to die in the most painful ways possible.

>>55765895
>>55767462
Really interesting. With surveillance (and advertising) , I think people are all becoming the same, this is a bit scary

What's the best tool to disable all telemetry in Windows 10?

>>55769103
>Linux better than anything

t. n00b

>>55770322
Not possible its all fake blocking in the host file they see all your moozic and movies dawg you're fuvking done kid cya in 15 years lmao

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>>55764279
>Microsoft always promises to not collect identifiable information
It's a common knowledge that Windows 10 spies on the users. The people who defend this are just butthurt /v/ spillage or indian winshills that LITERALLY do it for FREE like >>55770393

>>55770536
No we just don't think it's that big of a deal and largely FUD anyway

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>>55770601
You and your shillmates are defending it really hard though. Almost as if you think people aren't laughing at you

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>>55770688
irony lol

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>>55770712
IKR? XD

>Jared Fogle got arrested mere days after installing it

[citation needed]

>>55770531
Could you please fuck off and answer the question in a proper manner?

>>55770829
Real talk, hosts can't block IPs and a lot of microsoft requests are sent by IP. The ones that are sent by domain names are usually the harmless ones. For example the requests that check date/time settings and the ones that give you that little icon when you're internet isn't work are all done over domains. I know cortana also uses domains so it's possible to block that, but a lot of the telemetry is just hardcoded IPs. You'd need to block it on the router level, or if you ran Windows inside a VM on a trustworthy host OS you could block it that way.

>>55765655
Do you even know what open source means you retarded gorilla

>installed windows 10
>pedophile arrested days later

sounds good to me. he shouldnt have been posting cp on 8ch

>>55770812
I remember seeing his twitter when he was arrested, and there was a tweet about having recently installed W10. His twitter was deleted and that particular tweet isn't in the archive.org pages, so no proof.

>>55765588
Why the fuck do you use vpns instead of tails?

What sp of windows 7 adds spy shit?

>>55764279

Checked conviction rates for peodophilia and piracy in my country. Way down from last year. When does the botnet actually start?

>>55771219
One (technically two) of the VPNs is whonix which routes everything inside the workstation VM through tor. For most things that's what I use. But I don't like amnesia, I like privacy. I don't want to trash everything I'm doing, I just want it kept away from everyone else. If I was doing some sketchy stuff that I didn't want to keep around then I might use TAILS.

>>55764432
No drivers for xp anymore bro

>>55765020

>Apple's data: Server logs
What good are their server logs if they don't have his info? "Oh, random IP connected to iTunes, like everyone else. Oh look, 24 people in this building all go through the same default gateway, so all 24 of them have the same IP on our end!"

>>55765620
>overwatch
They track your copy of the game with your current hardware you have to run it. They ban you based off the hardware, partially, which is why they're able to ban, despite a VPN

I just did the """"upgrade""" and im torrenting 8.1 iso right now , FPS in games has gone down by 5-10 and they often stutter , the thing was fucking indexing files making my hdd usage 100% and PC overall slow as shit. Never again

>>55770812
He installed Windows 10, bragged about it on Twitter and three days later he got arrested. There's a screenshot of it floating around somewhere.

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>>55771675
Here it is.

>>55771249
SP2.

>>55764925
>android
>freetard
android is not free software anymore sadly
also fuck off shill

>>55771675
>>55771732

I mean realistically the arrest was likely weeks/months in planning but it's still a funny coincidence

>>55770536
god, that pic killed all my faith in this site
shills are real