/mkg/- Mechanical Keyboard General

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First for gaymin boards

REEE WHY ARE THEY SO EXPENSIVE

reposting list of decent chinkeboards under 100

magicforce/qisan
team wolf zhuque
redragon k552
ganss gs87
plum 87/108
rk rc930

>>55740769
Which Zealio should I get if I want a more smooth and tactile MX clears

Are gateron switches better than cherry mx? I'd like to pick up a Varmilo VA68M with blues but i'm not sure if they're any better than regular cherry blues
Also, can anyone make a recommendation for a normal 60% with pbt caps and blue switches? I've looked at the pok3r but i'd have to get a new set of keys and at that price I'd just rather get a more expensive keyboard that I can stick with the default set without them wearing out

>>55741029
78g

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>>55740780

>>55741029
Get tactile clears from winkeyless. They are the same thing but 0.50 each.

http://winkeyless.kr/product/gateron-switch-pcb-mounted/

>>55741093
In my experience 67g is much better than 78g. 78g feels lighter in the beginning and heavier at bottoming out, while 67 feels heavier throughout.

>>55741068
nvm, found https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1237 which has pbt caps

>>55741106
needs a doug faster key

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Why is the Reddit /mkg/ sub so god-damned obnoxious?

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>>55741106
>>55740780

Does this mean we're posting literal memeboards?

>>55741288

because some douchecanoe named ripster runs it. got banned from geekhack, deskthority, hardforum etc for being an insufferable twat.

he's known for things like 1upping every single post, taking "keyboard science" way too seriously and starting arguments with people for the dumbest shit. the subreddit just follows that lead.

>>55741288
I think it comes down to their voting system more than anything.

Memes = to the top
Quality posts/discussion = disliked

And my god the artisans.......

I still think it's a good resource for finding pics of shit that I want before I buy it however

>>55741288
are those brown switches?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10827013

>>55741342
>over the ear headphones
>40% keyboard
>Old fucking shitboard
>flipphone in 2016
>TWO thinkpads
>glass of water next to computers/suspended above not waterproof keyboards
>Terrible cables
>Xiaomi speaker
>Pedophile Anime

You are fucking typical

>>55741585
>missing the joke

just HOW different will going from scissors to blue/green be?

>>55740780
Thats a pretty slick gimmick, idk if Id buy one but it seems useful enough

>>55741676
basically not comparable. The only thing they have in common is that both are (probably, depending on the quality of the scissors) quite tactile, so once you reach a threshold the switch "collapses". They still feel totally different though.

>>55741676
massively

that's the point

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>>55741676
Different enough. One day you might get to find out it's all a meme failing to emulate the god emperor of keyboards and learn to live with a literal bucket full of monospace fonts.

>>55741724
What do you mean? Also all I'd swap caps for is the miami set (been drooling over them for years).

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Just finished this WKl board for a friend of mine. The board is pretty nice. It seems like I really, really like lubed ergo clears on acrylic plates.
Hyped to finally build my own one, but I'm still waiting for some Cherry RGB housings... Fuck Gaterons horrible contact leafs

>>55741381
Nope, those are Topre rubbercups.

Realforce are literal rubber-dome boards. Pretty fucking comfy to type on though, and the build quality is phenomenal, I'll give it that.

>>55741739
>drooling
>miami
Have you heard of the mechanical keyboard subreddit? Sounds like you you be a great fit over there.

Does anyone know of a mechanical keyboard with a clit mouse?

>>55741838
I think you're looking for a Tex Yoda, it's EOL though and used to be mad expensive. I messaged them once and they said there would be a new version in September I believe

>>55741853
>Tex Yoda
I came across that one actually but idk wtf massdrop is and it didn't seem to be for sale, maybe just a concept. I'll hold out till september and check again, thanks anon.

>>55741739
Everything in the world of autistic keyboards for nerds comes from the selectric. The model M is an attempt at replicating a keystroke that feels like the triggerpull of an italian shotgun that costs more than your car and it doesn't really deliver on anything but the noise. Everything else is just clicky shit. Certainly better than scissor keys, but it's like typing on a keyboard 15 years ago instead of fingerfucking a jaguar on mescaline.

>>55741838
Unicomp endurapro.

>>55741889
it's a shittly middleman that sells chinkshit at 80% markup while taking 6 months to ship.

you can find Yodas second-hand for 500-600USD, but if that's too much I'd just wait for a new version or look at something else

>>55741889
Just message them under tex-electronics and ask them when they'll have some in stock, fuck massdrop.

>>55741908
thanks anon, exactly what I was looking for.

>>55741911
>>55741923
I'd rather just get the unicomp

>>55741453
>those results
lel

>>55742015
not surprised at all. why the hell would we want this thread cluttered with gaming mice and monitors?

it's hard enough to find any current mice and <$2000 screens that are worth a damn, and not styled like a riced 2001 civic.

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>>55741342
I got your back.

>>55742042
>styled like a riced 2001 civic
Oh man, too accurate.

>>55741813
kool bro

>>55741585
>>55741342

is that not a realforce?
how is that a shitboard

>>55742050
What kind of a retard wastes so much money to build such an impractical keyboard.

>>55742274
The retard that brings mechanical keyboards to class and uses Microsoft Word.

>>55742274
How much do you think that cost?
>>55742309
How many levels of irony are you running pleb, what's your word processor?

>>55742354
LibreOffice.

>>55742360
I prefer gratis office

>>55742354
>How much do you think that cost?
Somewhere @ 150$.
>>55742360
I've used LibreOffice and if you actually need to do some word processing you'd best stay clear off it and just torrent Word.

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GANSS reporting in
>tfw your keyboard is in the OP for once

>>55742422
Did it break in two days like OP's?

>>55742422
how is it? thinking of buying one.

>>55742439
I've had mine for like 5/6 months now

Rather than make a new thread, I'll just ask here - what's the best gayman mouse I can buy for my money? Nothing more than 60 bucks

>>55742473
Mionix Castor. G402.

>>55742455
I love my GANSS, the keycaps are the absolute worst padprinted ABS shit, but its genuine Cherry mx switches on a really fucking heavy board for chink prices. And for the price of a shitty trash looking Magicforce, you could have a keyboard that looks like a Filco with no branding on the face of it.

Also, I'm about to get Vortex PBT keycaps for this thing, what do you guys think about this set on a black TKL?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1332

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>>55741288
>paying $200+ for this
topretards baka

>>55742499
Dank, just need to scrape together a few more pennies and im good.
Then I'ma need some caps

>>55742519
Do it man, I actually just posted because I saw OP talking shit about my comfy keyboard.

I'm going to start shitposting my kb pics again, so you all can have a new keyboard to look at

>>55742354
>word processor
well memed. emacs.

>>55742496
looks great, thanks

>>55742548
Just wish I could find it with greens.
Slap some miamis on there and call it a day.

>>55742557
G402 owner here, and don't knock the sniper button or the DPI shift buttons, they are reprogrammable, they never get in the way and I'm a big handed boy ;)

>>55742513
>tfw ur so broke so u gotta tell other their purchases are bad to justify how broke you are

>>55742573
>greens
The Ganss with greens has never been in stock anytime i have been watching it, they never restock the one with Greens, so don't get your hopes up.
>miamis
Miamis are shitty, thin, oilcoated, overpriced keycaps. If you don't have a real nice set of good PBT feeling keycaps, then don't get Miamis

>>55742597
since when were miamis oilcoated or overpriced
$40 is nothing are you broke or something
what keycaps do u have anon that are such extreme value
>inb4 blank gaterons

>>55742597
I know they never do.

Also I just really like the color scheme.

>>55742593

>I live with my parents, so I can spend my entire arby's paycheck on a rubberdome, lol poorfags

>>55742607
Oh yes very good, we herr at TaiHao aww verry respectable and good product makers™®©©©

>poorfag budget of around $100 CDN
>live in canada so unless it's chinkshit, shipping is gonna be killer (~$15 CDN if not free)

Is there a chinkshit keyboard / budget keyboard purchasing guide

>>55742607
>since when were Miami's oilcoated
Sorry what?

>>55742738
i only bought the taihao until i have steady income again and can spring for someone selling good miamis

>>55741288

the classifieds are the worst, so many retards and "muh artisans" faggots on it that I regret volunteering my time to mod that shit hole

>>55742955
barf I forgot about the artisans.

they're even worse than geekhack, to the point that they actually witch-hunt people who sell them for more than they paid.

>>55742976
the vocal minority birches about the $300/cap but the rest of the retards are willing to spend that much

>>55742738
>talks shit about keycaps
>doesnt provide an example of proper keycaps
>>55742784
whats the confusion is there an inability to read or something

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Went out and bought some wire loom today

>>55742777
see
>>55740935

returned my pok3r to get the tada68, still have another month to wait :(

model ms and buckling springs are overrated desu

they're nice, but not that nice

>>55743305

the Fs feel a lot better than the Ms, but it's hard to beat them for the 30-40 dollar price

>>55743095
Taihao are fucking known for having a coating you daft cunt

>>55743228
can you run me through the process of why you got a tada

i bought my tada because i wanted to try linear as a daily but blacks were too heavy and reds were tad too light in MX but in gateron they're about the perfect weight(50g) since i like the weighting on my blues

>>55743419
MD offers them without their shit coating which happens to not be oil and they're not that hard to remove if you refuse to wait 2 months for keycaps
i still haven't received a better proposition than tai hao

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What's the hip new keyswitch nowadays? I'm still on my MX Blues and after 3 years of it, it's starting to get annoying

>>55743421
i didn't get a tada, but it's a great way to get a board in a layout that's not commonly provided with good caps and a crazy price.

only reason i didn't get one is because i don't know where i'll be living when they drop.

>>55743449
zealios 67g or gateron 35g clear or topre 45g

>>55743450
makes sense
i really wanna join in on originative's enjoypbt run rn but there's gonna be extras so i'll see how i like the caps when the tada comes in
theyre the same anyways i think

>>55743449
Matias.

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>>55743459
>zealios 67g
why would you pay more for zealios and not just get gateron tactile clears, for 25-50 cents cheaper per switch

inb4 he says to support the community

>>55743524
P U R P L E S T E M S

and they're smoother???? it doesn't matter when i build my b.face i'm getting gat tacs anyway

b.face or b.mini. i like the arrow keys but not the function layer

>>55743524
>>55743544
Aren't tactile gateron clears on limited production?

>>55743605
They were, but somehow they got restocked.

>>55741117

Currently building an atreus, using harvested blues frpm ducky mini, teensy 2.0, and building case and plates out of oak and thin plywood. Hot shit

>>55743759
nice brah, post progress pics

Ducky kbs any good?

>>55744062
yeah they're great

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>>55743759
very nice, underrated keyboard

Any of you guys seeing the drama with the GMK Solarized interest check? It's pretty funny.

is there a switch thats lighter than mx red? like super low pressure that resting my hads may keypress?

>>55744543
gateron 35g clears, or topre/topre-clone 35g

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1447

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84-electrostatic-capacitive-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-compact-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-detachable-cable-84-mini/32598836635.html

>>55744559
thats a shitton of money for a chink product

>>55744559
thank you very much for the speedy response!

>>55744586
i'm guessing EC switches are more costly to manufacture (and aren't as popular so have lower sales as well). i'm surprised there's a market at all for Topre clones, but with my RC930 in front of me I'm definitely happy there is one.

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>>55744447
it's funny how much drama comes out of artisans and keycap sets on reddit & geekhack

it's almost like they are little pieces of plastic which go on keyboards and not something to waste so much energy to

how do i go about switching my layout from qwerty to colemak/dvorak?
(the more autistic the response the better)

>>55744629
http://thetypingcat.com/howto/change-your-keyboard-layout-win7

>>55744629
practice

https://learn.dvorak.nl/

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>>55744629
Configure it in Windows under language settings. Bonus points if you make it your default language so it FUBARs your game controls and start up. I've used both of the practice sites the anons posted and both are good, especially the lessons on typing cat.
Since you requested Dvorak autism:

Who else is waiting on the PBT caps from Massdrop?

>>55744674
not him, but thank you for acknowledging the default-dvorak struggles

the real struggle is when games are too stupid to recognize "," as a proper key and can't switch to qwerty in-program

sorry, had to vent a little

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time to bully you guys

been using this for 2+ years and still works as well as when it came out the box

it's just 10 bucks, and if there were broken by just using it, logitech would send me a brand new one free of charge

hell, even if it werent broken theyll send you a new one

now, why the fuck would you buy a mechanical keyboard now

>>55745278
the worst thing is when the game thinks it's too good for the keyboard layouts, and instead uses a lookup table of characters against keycodes, so the ingame chat gets fucked up.

>>55743421
simply cause all the other gateron brown boards were more expensive, and the tada has so much better keys and dedicated arrowkeys unlike the pok3r. Also love how it looks :)

Any reason why I shouldn't use a pok3r with clears as my first mech? I've been stuck with a laptop keyboard pretty much so don't think I'd need the arrow keys a lot, the only thing I think I'd miss is being able to do volume from the function row...

>>55745712

nope, that was my first 60% and it's still great to carry around

>>55745404
CLICK CLICK CLACK CLACK CLICK CLACK

Much better

>>55740769
Help my find a keyboard /g

>Budget
$100 - $150
>Location
U.S.A
>Switch
Blues
>Layout
ANSI
>Form Factor
Tenkeyless
>Backlit
Preferably RGB but red is fine

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This thing is coming out soon. Any people looking forward to trying it?

>agile switches
>made by kailh
not sure if want

>>55743544
They're not smoother at all, they're both literally made by gateron. The only difference between zealios and tact. Clears is the stem color.

>>55746136
>Agile switches
What

>>55740769
Looking for a small comfy keyboard with a simple neutral design.

>Budget
Irrelevant

>Location
Europe/Germany

>Preferred Switch Type
Using Cherry MX Red, love the feel of them, so preferrably something similar to that.

>Layout
German

>Form factor
As small as possible, without the tenkey thingies on the right but preferrably with all those utility buttons like delete, pos1 etc.
I don't need the arrowkeys

>Backlight
Not necessary but a nice bonus. Definitely don't need RGB though. Simple blue or white is good.

>Previous/Current keyboards
QPAD MK-50 with the Cherry MX Red switches

>>55746379

looking for the exact same thing. (+ fn media keys on the insert/home/pgup row if possible)

Initially wanted to get a ducky tkl, but those seem to be impossible to get with a german layout.
DAS seems kind of nice, but has this huge bezel
WASD v2 88-key seems to fit best, but the extra cost for shipping and customs is just too much

Availability for tkl with german layout is just horrible.
Might just get one with UK ISO layout and then replace the caps, if that's not too expensive.

Me: Razer is garbage laughable quality
Him: razer has FUNCTION
Me: Funnction explain
Him: macros
Me: What function?
Him: software
How can I convince him that razer is rubbish? He says that razer lasted him 6 years and that it comes with goodies and support whenever something breaks and that Ducky and filco has no function

>Budget
Not super important but if anyone can suggest a range of prices that would be fine.

>Location (continent at least)
South Korea

>Preferred switch type
Browns or anything similar

>Layout
Not important but customization is nice

>Form factor
100%

>Backlight
Preferred but not important

>Previous/current keyboards
A couple of different Ducky Shine keyboards

>>55746669
Why do you want to convince him? Sounds like you just want to be right or want something to feel good about.

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>>55742050
>no one is sitting in his area

>>55746686
Yeah true I should just leave it, is a chinese ripoff keyboard better than ducky's keyboards?

How much does a ten finger type keyboard cost?

Anyone know a tenkeyless keyboard with red switches for less than 65 dollars?

>>55746885
Also, are cherry mx reds scratchy?

So, any decent option for babby's first mechanical keyboard? Under 100 bucks, 100%, whatever switches but preferably nonclicky, whatever backlights, mostly for Starcraft play and text inpit. No problem with chinkboards really as long as it has antighosting. I liked the Zhuque suggested at the beginning (mostly the fact that you can change switches without soldering, my soldering is literally garbage) but I'd really want to avoid TKL boards since I use the numpad quite a bit for general typing.

>>55746949
All cherry switches except for the vintage ones are scratchy

>>55747010
Can I find a gateron red keyboard for 60 to 70 USD?

>TFW built Planck
>TFW can't type on ortho
>TFW I fell for the meme
>TFW gateron clears are too good
>TFW going to have to swap out all of my keyboard switches with clears

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What's the most recommended MKB for someone who is:

> European
> Looking for a clean Keyboard, no carnival board with 50 led lights built in.
> Looking for a decently priced one for 70 or perhaps under.
> preferably light switches so Red or Brown.

I've already found a Keyboard by Cherry themselves for about 80. Any tips?

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>>55743966
Potato quality but heres what I have so far, keys are already desoldered. Today I should be able to cut the frame, stain and varnish it, and varnish the plate.

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My current planck, carbon plates and zealio 67

>>55747713
cant tell if the plates are homemade or bought

which one?

>>55747754
They were bought from someone on reddit who had them cnc'd. He sold about 6 of them so I'm feeling pretty special

Is there anything out there as compact as a joker 2, but still provides arrow keys?

>>55747975

poker, not joker.

>>55747975
leopold fc660m

>>55743524
I have both and I find my Zealios R1 more tactile. Seems to be related to the bottom housing giving more pressure, as replacing Zealios stems with aristotles gave a much louder click than doing the same with gateron tactile clears.

Not sure about Zealios R2 and R3 tho.

I got my first keyboard mire today, /g/.

I was just doing work at my new job today (non-tech) and one of the senior managers came up to me and told me he liked my mech and he was thinking about getting one for work too because he has a topre at home but has to deal with a shitty rubberdome at work. We talked a bit about Cherry switch type and how he wishes he could just use a HHKB for work, but it wouldn't be practical for our work.

And that's kinda it. But I was honestly kinda surprised someone would even notice, let alone know about mechs. Felt good.

/blogpost

>>55747975
varmilo va68m

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Should I, /g/?

>gateron switches
>rgb meme
>chink doubleshot PBT caps

http://aliexpress.com/item/Everglide-E300-RGB-Backlit-Antighosting-Double-Shot-PBT-Keycaps-104-Keys-Gateron-MX-Black-Blue-Switches/32694457929.html

>>55744447
Man, it's always something with these people.

>>55746677
Anything from Leopold.

>>55744447
All the guy wants is to bring back the colorway, why are people upset?

>>55749028
Because someone else is already making it, apparently.

>>55749079
All I've seen of it is a SA Penumbra vote on massdrop that's months old

>>55749275
It's in the thread - BunnyLake mentions (previously unknown to anyone) that he was getting GMK penumbra to some vendor.

>>55749293
So people got mad because someone did an interest check and didn't know about someone already doing it in secret? Jesus

>>55749592
Because the guy doing it in secret made the first group buy, so in their mind nobody should do another groupbuy on the same color without contacting them first.

This same guy did a shitload of GBs before, and there are many orders still pending because some went wrong. He has no money to make those orders produced so he wants to make this GB to get money to complete older orders, and everybody is mad at everybody.

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>tfw got three arduino pro micros in my mailbox
>tfw half the globe between me and my mailbox

>>55749635
Bunny is such a tool. It's terribly amusing.

>>55749649
Three? Ordering extras?

>>55749635
Hopefully it gets worked out because I really want a set, regardless of who is doing it.

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>>55749806
>Three? Ordering extras?
One to finish up that minimized AEK, the other two for whatever I'll be doing next. Got two numpads and a 40% (want to try etching my own PCBs) planned, depending on how workable they are I'll order some more, they're only five bucks a pop.
Oh yes, the memeforce needs some fixing too, but I can probably fix that without having to go as far as replacing the controller.

I don't know shit about microcontrollers or coding, but they use the same chip as the teensies, so I'm guessing that it should work out fine with the TMK firmware.

>>55749894
>(want to try etching my own PCBs)
Oh, keep us posted on that.

>Oh yes, the memeforce needs some fixing too
New or old problems?

>they use the same chip as the teensies
You talking about the pro micro clones? Yeah, they work with TMK.

>>55749894
is that scan any help at all?

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>>55749945
Will do. I'll be enrolling in electrical engineering school soon after the start of next month, but I should probably get around to doing that sometime within the next two months or so. Hopefully I'll also have a bit more of an idea of what I'm doing with electronics. Should be fun, though the good stuff like messing with microcontrollers only comes far later.

>>55749945
Old problems. No idea why they suddenly showed up again, but it's even worse than it used to be now. I plug the thing in, and it immediately starts spamming keys along the second column. I have no idea why, there's nothing shorting out and it's connected to the controller just fine. I'm quite sure it's a problem with the firmware, but I have no idea why the firmware is suddenly fucking itself. I didn't even do any troubleshooting yet since I haven't had the time, but I have a feeling it'll be one hell of a pain.

Yeah, I think so. I'm honestly not quite sure myself, they're these ones here

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-New-Pro-Micro-for-arduino-ATmega32U4-5V-16MHz-Module-with-2-row-pin-header/318950_1348800135.html

>>55750025
Most likely is a very big help. All I need is the spacing of the pins and the switch holes so I know where to drill. Doing the traces should be quite simple business. I'll just have to see if the local printing places have laser printers or how to actually go about getting that thing down on a copper plate so I can etch it.

The scale of the scan is 100%, right?

>>55750128
Yeah, those pro micro clones definitely work with TMK. I should know, I used one for my macro pad.

>>55750172
Nice. The one with the blank OEM profile keycaps, or the one with those SA keycaps?

Post pics.

Are gateron switches compatible with cherry mx housing bottom? Thinking about replacing browns with gat green on my masterkeys, but as leds are SMDs the default gateron housing wont work.

>>55750128
>The scale of the scan is 100%, right?
probably
i used the shitty interface to scan to a drive

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>>55750207
This one.

>>55750258
Yes they are.

What soldering iron does /mkg/ recommend? I've never soldered anything before.

>>55750501
Huh, looking at the actual size on my laptop it doesn't seem to be 100%, but that should be fixable. I'll probably ask you for the PCB dimensions once I'm back. No reason to bother with that now.

>>55750546
Ah yes, I remember you. Was it a printing shop you worked at?
Something with big white box-like machines.

What switches did you put in that beauty? I forgot.

>>55750657
I've got a CFH, and it's really nice with temperature that you can adjust really exactly, but I think for basic /mkg/ purposes almost anything should do. I'd be more worried about having a proper desoldering solution.

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>>55750657
Random cheap as fuck chink aehoo solder station. There is really no need for spending fortunes on an analog solder station.

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>>55750705
>Was it a printing shop you worked at?
You've got me confused with someone else.

>What switches did you put in that beauty? I forgot.
Tactile greys.

>>55750733
Handwired, right?

Where you pick up the plate and case?

Is Logitech G610 any good?

>>55750828
Nope.

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>>55750754
Yeah.

Plate and case are from eBay:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/141643552738
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/141490251198

>>55750834
Any good one that looks as good?

I really don't like gaymer looking devices?

Does anyone here have any experience with Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire XT Cherry MX? I can get it for around 100€, it's among the cheapest mech keyboards here. Do you know any popular brand, maybe even cheaper, whose mech keyboards I should check?

>>55750988
Quickfire XT, XTi, Masterkeys, Wasd V2, Code, Varmilo VA108, Leopold FC900, etc. There are like hundreds of clean fullsize options.

>>55749592
the guy who did the IC is some idiot reddit celeb. most of the drama is from the reddit and GH community clashing, as the guy and some other reddit folk invaded the GH thread and started accusing 1000+ post community members with their new accounts.

plus apparently the reddit celeb stole the render photo from the GMK Carbon drop without permission, just did some photoshopping to change the color.

Are Bluetooth mechanical keyboards OK? It's an extra for my laptop, already own chink mechanical keyboard but i want something wireless. No serious videogame intended, some casual CSGO and LOL

>>55751428
Yeah. Just dont expect backlit ones to last, but for regular usage they work just fine.

>>55751486
Thx anon

>like my scissor board
>want a mech board
>cant really justify the price of $70

>>55752308
dont get a mech yet. slowly save up and when you have the money reconsider.

Is it worth saving up for a Realforce or is just buying a Type Heaven at the end of the day gonna satisfy me enough?

>>55752338
I could go with a ganss, which is what I want, but it seems pointless.

>>55752367
then don't get one, leave the thread and go buy android wallpapers or something

>>55752382
wat

Okay Ill ask here

>>Budget
70-100 dollars

>>Location (continent at least)
USA more specifically New England

>>Preferred switch type
Blues

>>Layout
Standard Qwerty ANSI layout is fine

>>Form factor
>100%

>>Backlight
It would be nice but I won't be mad if it doesn't

>>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech k120 and IBM model M (its too loud and my dorm mates would kick me out if I don't find a quieter keyboard)

>>55752425
DONT GET A MECH UNTIL YOU REALLY WANT IT youll get buyers remorse if you do, and think that mechs are a waste of money.

filco stealth tenkeyless with reds or poker3 with clears.

About the same prize. Which one and why?

>>55752508
Dude I get buyers remorse about almost everything I buy, then eventually I love them.
It's weird, I feel uncomfortable until I have the actual product in hand.

>>55752527
hhkb pro 2 because it's better

>>55752527
Buy what you want.

>>55752541
okay. listen to me. just listen and dont question.

do not buy a mech until you habe saved up the cash and really considered if yoy want one. dont "splurge" consider it carefully. if you have saved up the purchat will be nominal cause thatoney was meant for that, this is good because you can honestly consider whether you want one or not. its about what you like. its not gonna make you cooler, its not gonna iake people like you. its purely about your tastes in what a keyboard should be.

>>55752554
thats almost twice the cost so no. But the novatouch would cost the same...

>>55752590
that's the problem, I can't decide. I also have to import so I cannt test them or send them back

>>55752616
Considering how you write he will propably back off mech keyboards

>>55752656
>>55752616
lol missing the point, i HAVE the money, and I do this wiht just about everything. I'm considering something new cause it'd be a nice change of pace.

>>55752554
Just some stupid question why are their keyboards so fucking expensive. They're all like 300+ dollars just for a 60% keyboard.
Who buys that shit? are they made of gold? Does it feel any better than a $100 mechanical keyboard?

>>55752678
Lack of demand drives up prices.

>>55752628
Will you eventually replace the caps?

Yes: Filco
No: Pok3r

Clears and reds are also very different, you should decide what switch you prefer before buying anything.

>>55752678
Cult following and status. HHKBs, besides the layout, offer the exact same thing as Realforces, but are $20-$30 more expensive.

>>55752671
Then buy it. If you regret later, just resell it and be done.

>>55752758
Think I will, part of the reason is being able to change the keycaps.
Thanks anon.

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I have a weird request. If anyone is from Canada and shop at a Shoppers Drug Mart, what kind of keys do their cash registers use?

>>55752741
What? Why no replacing the caps on the Poker? It's as standard as they come, and with Cherry stabs it's arguably easier to replace its caps.

>>55752785
If the cash register uses mechanical switches, 99% of the time it will be MX Blacks. That's what they are used for.

>>55753430
Because stock pok3r caps are way better than Filco's. Both are easy to replace, but if you wont, stock poker caps are alright, while stock filco caps are pretty shitty - even the stealth ones.

>>55752678
Nope, its the same reason you pay extra money for Beats

https://www.amazon.com/IBM-Japanese-Lettering-Computer-Keyboard/dp/B00SXBT46O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469481195&sr=8-1&keywords=ibm+japanese

I like this keyboard, but is it hard to adapt db9 serial to usb/ps2

Is this a con? There's got to be something wrong with it at this price right?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Qisan-Mechanical-Keyboard-68-Keys-Magicforce/dp/B01A9QPG0S

>>55753844
It's from China. Looks about the same price as the one on the us amazon. It uses knockoff switches to save money.

>>55754045
So its a real Qisan Keyboard?

Im not being scammed into buying a knockoff of a knockoff?

>>55754059
The board looks the exact same as the one advertised over here, about the same price.

>Budget
up to £80
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Red
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
60% I think (only the big chunk, I don't want separate function keys, arrow keys, numpad, del/ins/home/etc)
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
Anything that isn't a rubber, fullsize £5 Logitech from Maplins

Thank you in advance

>>55754324
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Noppoo-Lolita-Switches/dp/B01EJ3219G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469484684&sr=8-1&keywords=noppoo+lolita+spyder+87

?

>>55754417
Thank you, that was quick, a bit large I suppose but waay cheaper than I'd expected and looks stylish.

>>55754495
No problem I was going between here and amazon when I seen your post. I just went and ordered one with blues. Hopefully it's good, never used kailh switches before.

>>55754535
heard mixxed things aboot em.

>>55754535
Reviews say they are just cheaper-quality versions of Cherry switches. I think that they will still feel the same even if the plastic is different though. Just got the reds.

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>>55754417
Fuck I bought it despite already having ducky one.

SAVE ME

CM Storm Rapid with Greens or the GS87 with blues?

>>55754715
you bought an objectively worse in every way keyboard than the one you already had

there is no saving you anon

>>55752742
obviously never owned a hhkb
the switch feels better and sounds better than its realforce counterpart
really its not the switch but the way its mounted but there are no case mounted/non plate mounted realforces

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>qt Ganss

>>55754918
SOMEONe pls
>>55756309
I wanna slap miamis on one.

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>tired of blank keycaps
>using a leopold
>can't find decent looking caps
>decent looking caps not PBT
last resort is to buy from untranslatable chinese websites. fuck this

Can someone please tell me, without resorting to meme answers, why 90% of mechanical keyboards don't even have a numpad?

>find cool mechanical keyboard
>no numpad
>repeat forever

>>55757200
I don't know where you're looking but the majority of mechanical keyboards have numpads.

>>55757200
Mostly cause it's not necessary and they take up extra space.
I'm right handed and honestly would prefer a left handed keyboard so that my mouse doesn't have to be so far away form my actual letters.

Seriously think of how much a numpad gets used.

and as >>55757386 said, theres a lot with them

>>55754918
bro u cant just compare two boards with two different switches
do you want heavy switches? -> greens
do you want medium weighted switches? -> blues
desu you're probably going to get tired of greens so ima just say blues rn

>>55757900
Aight thanks homie

calling out 40% people
what do you think of your boards
i really want to buy one but im upset that i can't put my meme keycaps because of nonstandard layouts
should i just buy another 60%

Razer BlackWidow X Ultimate - Clicky Metal.

Is it easier to clean?

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>both my dolch sets are sold out and aren't being made again
feels good

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>>55758011
I'm not super into it. I have the preonic which has the number row. if it were easier to program I would be happy with it but I'm not a coder. it's fairly comfy to type on and I'm already at 75% of my normal speed with it, but I really need to add a few features like caps lock, hyphen, brackets, etc, and either shift or backspace under my left thumb.

>>55756309
the first thing I do after smoking a joint is type on my keyboard

>>55758090
Top set is beautiful, but on the bottom one, does it bother anyone else when keycaps sets print "TAB" as well as the symbol for it too?

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Got my hands on one of these for free from a closet cleanout at work. What do?

>>55758169
sell it to me for $150 NOW.

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>>55758162
the gmk keyset is a pretty exact copy of the ANSI dolch keyset

however it immensely annoys me that the german set had symbols
i would prefer that

>>55758169
shitpost about it
or sell it for $200+ and not to this guy>>55758179

>>55758090
feels bad :^)

i don't even care about dsa, but gmk dolch is so nice

not that i believe for a second anything these keycap designers/manufacturers say anyway

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>>55758345
cherry is objectively the best profile

>>55758391
a gmk set is probably going to be one of my next keyboard purchases, whenever that is. just need to find a good Cyrillic, TA Royal Alpha, or Dolch set and justify the insane price.

>>55758570
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set
this has 3h left and is probably the cheapest you'll ever see a GMK set

the royal alpha set hardly made MOQ and probably wont run again

>>55758596
Dang, that's a lot of orders.

So I'm getting a TKL soon, but I use the media keys rather often on my X6. Any idea where i can find a dedicated set of keys(volume knob not necessary) for cheap?

>>55758659
Just use the function layer of more keyboards for that. Even my planck has media keys

>>55758720
rather not use function keys, my man.
Shit aint the same as having dedicated keys.

>>55758770
Thats true. I use the in line controls on my speakers more then the function kreys

>>55758770
lol.

just, no words.

My Poker 2 won't toggle WASD to arrow keys when I hit FN + Space anymore? I've reset it a couple times now.
Any help?

>>55759057
Actually I don't think any of the factory toggle commands work?

Any of you turbonerds use an ergodox? Thinking of picking up an EZ.

I am a dev by day who devs at home as well, having my hands together for the last 15 years (and likely the next 30-40) is sounding worse and worse.

Not having function keys or a numpad on the default layer is throwing me off a bit though.

Is the ergodox the solution to my split keyboard need problems?

>>55759079
>>55759057
Nevermind, got it.
Unplugged and replugged it in.

Are Logitech's Romer G switches any good? I really like what the G810 looks like, but haven't tried it out myself yet
>inb4 gaymer XDD
I don't care

>>55758011
I really like my 40%. It's not for everything, but it's extremely usable, and having such a small keyboard does have its advantages.

Here's the layout of my staggered 40% if you want to see how I manage to fit all of the necessary keys on it: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/25b672d0b0a65c714868db0f74671111

Make sure to click the text at the bottom for an explanation as to how the layers work.

>>55758596
the price is so good, but i can't jive with that colorscheme :(

>>55759265
everyone says that they're mushy. there are better boards that are cheaper anyway

>>55759277
Any good boards you'd recommend? It has to be a full board though cause I use the number pad a lot

What is the "general" consensus on MX red switches? I don't like blues because they feel like too much, I bottom out and can't help it so I feel 3 bumps: actuation, bottom out, release. It gets really annoying after a while. I previously tried browns and didn't like them either because they just feel annoying. Are reds fine for someone who bottoms out? I would get topre but it's beyond my budget. I'm considering the quick fire rapid with reds.

>>55759293
ducky one
leopold fc900
coolermaster xt

anything cheaper is going to be chinese board and with those your mileage may vary. also reconsider if you really need a numpad (hint: most people say they do but actually don't), or if you could live with an external numpad.

>>55759321
linears are best switch type, don't let people tell you otherwise

>>55759342
I play CS:GO a lot and need it for binds n' shit, so I do need it, but not for anything really important. Having said that, I'm ready to drop $130 for a G810 so price isn't much of an issue and I can afford a full board

>>55759102
I want one. I have a Microsoft Sculpt which is pretty comfy off the shelf; you should look into it

>>55759342
I just found the Logitech G610, basically the 810 but with white LEDs instead of RGB, and comes with Cherry MX red or brown switches. Only costs 89.99 on Amazon rn

>>55759833
And has a non-standard bottom row.

>>55746379
get a whitefox or something, its on massdrop right now.

>>55740769
I'm still typing on a Model M from 16 Jan 1991. It's two years older than me, and after replacing a few springs, in amazing working order. It's hilarious when I'm chatting with friends that the most common response is that no keyboard should be that loud.

So I've been typing on a Model M at home for years, is there any switch that's comparable to the feel of buckling springs? Forgive me, I'm rather new but I would like to learn.

>>55760358
Amber omrons aren't too far off, white ALPS are probably the next-nearest.

Beamsprings are easily the smoothest and best feeling tactiles, but cost upwards of $400 plus converters.

>>55760540
Thank you, I appreciate it. I need a keyboard for work; I can't deal with the rubber ones.

>>55760588
Welcome, is there a reason you want to move away from model Ms, and not get something like a model F?

Or do you just want to try something different?

who chink keyboards here?
feels good getting what used to be $100+ for <$40. and no I don't care that the switches feel slightly different from legit cherry mx.

>>55760622
No particular reason; just wanting to try something different. I would imagine that they'll be increasingly hard to find and keep up with maintenance as time goes on since they're ancient by technology standards.

>>55760703
Standard keyboards haven't actually advanced a whole lot since then, they still use membranes

What do you think about the corsair K70?

>>55763683
piece of shit with a non-standard bottom row, like any mech from corsair.

Next.

>>55764044
Which one is a good mechanical keyboard?

>>55764085
HHKB

If you'd actually bother filling out the buyers template we could recommend you something that actually fits what you want though.

>>55760540
5576-002s aren't that expensive.

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>Budget
would prefer 60-80€
I could go higher but I need some reason why
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
I am thinking brown, tactile is what I am interested in, and want also quiet
>Layout
classic.. uh.. ISO I am thinking
>Form factor
ten key less, no numpad version
>Backlight
would love, but price dependant..
>Previous/current keyboards
some 10€ logitech

I am looking at "Cooler Master Rapid-I"
cheapest around here is 95€
theres no usb hub on the side or back that I would fucking love
but watching videos of its features, especially individual light up keys is quite awesome

Also are those khali switches terrible?

What alternatives are there to it?
Also I am a linux user if it matters.

>EnjoyPBT on GH
>Originative Modern Beige
>Master Control on Massdrop

Which PBT dyesub set, guys?

>>55764138
all of them

How much worse than the Ducky One is the Ganss?

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>want to buy AK33 RGB because rgb and cheap
>nowhere available
>massdrop has ridiculous shipping costs

Why do I have to suffer like this?

>>55764525
Are you outside US? Try using a shipping proxy. Or just find it at aliexpress.

>>55764098
Well everyone complains about plebbit "keyboard science" while /g/ is infested by glorified rubber dome owners like that tripfag who is filtered by everyone.

Does anyone by chance know if there are any Ducky TKL RGB with ISO layout available anywhere or do these simply not exist?

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>>55765047
>ISO

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>>55765019
>everyone complains about plebbit "keyboard science"
I actually haven't seen anyone complain about keyboard science so far. That stuff is top tier information.

The guy who does it may be a raging autist, but unless you care about reddit/geekhack drama that has no place here, that shouldn't disturb you in the first place.

Not sure what your problem with glorified rubber domes is either. Pic related, glorified rubber dome owner and shameful wearer of flip-flops when too lazy to put on proper shoes reporting in

>>55765047
There's the MK disco, made in cooperation with ducky, but I don't think it comes in ISO.

>>55764525
just buy rgb leds and hide them on your keyboard

why the fuck are keycaps so expensive, and why do you cucks actually pay $100+ for some of them?

>>55765355
because it's a niche product in an already niche market. Most people don't even use mechs, the few people who do will just use them with the stock keycaps, and the few enthusiasts that are left will then fill the market for fancy aftermarket keycaps.

People pay 100 bucks or more for them because they want them and they can afford them. That's how just about anything that involves paying a certain amount of money for a product works.

>>55764117

Those are ALPS made plate spring, not IBM beam spring

>>55745404
K120's have terrible key rollover.

>>55766214
>>55766214
>>55766214
there's a new thread

>>55740769
this costs fucking 115$ on aliexpress I can get a Storm QuickFire Rapid-i blue switches for that same price

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Quick, post /mkg/ memes to hit the cap so we don't have two threads.

Should I pick up a TKL with Topre switches or a 60% with 65g Zealios?

>>55766922
where are you finding a 60% w/ 65g zealios?
i would say topre anon dont waste your time on MX