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>2007 >Firefox 1.5 and 2 can handle 700+ tabs on my 1GB

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>2007
>Firefox 1.5 and 2 can handle 700+ tabs on my 1GB RAM machine just fine
>2016
>Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Palemoon etc. can't handle 400+ tabs on my 16GB RAM machine without slowing down and crashing

What happened? When did browsers turn into such fucking RAM hogs?
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>>55705197
Lucky for us, most machines nowadays don't have one fucking GiB of RAM
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>>55705197
How can you even use that many tabs? What the fuck?
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>>55705197
install safari, it's less of a memory hog
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Now each tab is the whole browser running independently of the other tabs so that if one crashes, the others are unaffected.
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>>55705355
not him, but I use my tabs as "to read later" or just stuff I am lurking.

I basically don't use favorites because I am too lazy to maintain the list and remove the links I don't need anymore
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>>55705197
Are you sure it's the browsers that are the problem? Every website nowadays loads up like 100MB of javascript.
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>>55705427
This
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>>55705355
>just use less tabs, just be yourself :^)

Fuck you normalfag lightweight cunt, that's not the point.
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>>55705197
Using more than 10 tabs should be used as criteria for autism diagnosis.
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>>55705197
HTML5 happened. The 400+ tabs are WAY more demanding than those 700+ were.
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>>55705197
I'm not saying that this isn't a problem, but jesus christ, 400+ tabs
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>>55705427
This. Web developers desperately want to feel like "real" programmers, so they write zillions of unnecessary lines of code in an attempt to imitate software. They also like to use all the latest bleeding edge tools, because it makes them feel cool, when in reality, normies don't give a single shit about whether your site uses jquery, ruby on rails, or even fucking php.
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>>55705562
Also, metric fucktons of non-functional "artisanal" crap.js everywhere.
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>>55705427
Fuck, I miss simple websites.
I'm also getting fucking sick of every website needing to have transitions, scroll menus and just shit that moves in general.
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http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
If your website is more complex than this, it's shit.
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>>55705391
>not him, but I use my tabs as "to read later" or just stuff I am lurking.

ever heard of bookmarks?
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>>55705197
The technology just isn't there yet.
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>>55705783
too lazy to maintain the list.
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>>55705646
Most of the Jap websites are still stuck in the late 90's or early 2000. Sites load buttery smooth and everything isn't eye cancer.
Most of the new sites are minimal but don't go out of their way to add 20 transitions and special effects.

Why couldn't we keep it simple?
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Why the fuck would you need 400 tabs?
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>>55705646
>assignments and other material for university are posted on the professor's personal webpage
>they make the webpages themselves, so it's all minimal and super functional
It makes me feel like I should have appreciated the internet in the 90s more, when this was the standard
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>>55705841
But anon, you don't understand. We have to make our website appealing to millennials, or else our business will go down
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>>55705800
>implying you have to maintain it

Look, I actually know exactly what it is you're talking about, after a year or two of use I have like over 30-40 bookmarks.

That doesn't mean you have to be a retard though and have a million tabs because you're THAT lazy
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>>55705800
Too lazy to use a computer properly
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>>55705427
Fucking this. Every website loads a shitton of JS frameworks. Fucking jquery it has no pont, you can use vanillaJS for most of the shit.
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>>55705924
>he doesn't browse the internet the same way I do
>he's wrong because I'm right

>>55705922
Then how do you "buffer" the wikipedia articles / random tutorials / dumb consumer review you want to look but not just now?
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>>55705988
>>55705427
>>55705608
>>55705427

So installing an extension that disables js altogether is a good solution?
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>>55705391
>not him, but I use my tabs as "to read later" or just stuff I am lurking.

Thats fucking retarded
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>>55706020
No, because some webpages stop functioning. Menus, dynamic content all go to shit.
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>>55706001
You're never going to read that article anyway
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>>55705841
>tfw Japanese websites still have little shoutout banners
Talk about a blast from the past.
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>>55705355
Why not? I got on average 300+ tabs opened in 2 separate browsers to read them later, if I fail to read them today I just hibernate and go back in this way tabs accumulate and reach 3 digits.
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>>55705783
That's a hell of a lot of clutter. Bookmarks are for sites that you know you're going to be coming back to, not for a site you'll need here and there for the next few days.
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>>55705197
Lel you snuck your 16 gb ram thread into the board and no one noticed this time.
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>>55705197
>2016
>people still don't know bookmarks exist
Do you also open all your food packages and keep them in your room just because you'll need them later anyway?
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>>55705197
>People complain about how a single tab crashing causes the whole browser to crash
>Tabs no longer share resources to the same extent they used to, meaning that they all hog up loads of extra memory for redundant data
>Not exactly helped by websites themselves using larger assets and streaming HD quality video
It's all pretty logical really... If you don't like it, go back to an old version of your browser.
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>>55706556

Wat.
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>>55706586
>having moldy tabs for breakfast again, Anon?
Lel.
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>>55706586
>bookmarking literally everything
Oh yeah, that sounds much better than just leaving tabs open till you're done with them
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>>55706647

This. The guy that suggested that is retarded.
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>>55706647
Yes, this is MUCH better. You can search bookmarks, you can backup bookmarks and they have NO performance impact. I'd rather search something again than deal with slowdowns.
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>>55706891
That was sarcasm, I was making fun of people like you.
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If you have hundreds of tabs open you need to rethink your workflow
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>>55706970
If you can't understand why I have hundreds of tabs open maybe you should just accept the fact that we're two different individuals who do things differently.
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>>55707007
There is no excuse to be a horder.
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>>55707050
Sure there is.
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>>55705783
I have several thousand bookmarks over 10+ years if browsing. They're kind of worthless to me.
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It is a ploy to corrupt attention, thought patterns memory and focus in web browsing, chrome's interface is built for only about 10-20 tabs to be comfortable, it is slowly reducing your real life brain memory and thinking about how the internet is to be browsed. One page at a time most of the the time, and that is horrible.
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>>55707007
Or maybe you're just a massive faggot who can't organize anything but who am I kidding? It's not like you have a job or anything so you can spend the day in your mothers basement pretending to be cool.
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>>55705197
just use NoScript, OP.

problem is mostly JS bloat frankly.

I use 64b Waterfox on a 32GB box across about 4 profiles/sessions with an aggregate of 600+ tabs managed with Tree-Style Tabs, and stuff works fine for me.
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>>55707080
>Or maybe you're just a massive faggot who can't organize anything but who am I kidding?
If I was incapable of organization there's no way in hell I'd be able to have so many tabs open.
>It's not like you have a job or anything so you can spend the day in your mothers basement pretending to be cool.
Resorting to ad hominem simply because you can't accept that different people use their computers in different ways? You're fucking pathetic.
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>>55707080
If you can think fast enough to retrieve a piece of information from on of 100 open tabs, where the tab was, what the site was about and why you needed the information to continue working your probably not a faggot.
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>>55707007
I don't need to accept anything. Having hundreds of tabs open is dragging the scrollbar levels of retarded.
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Firefox is still A LOT better than Chrome.

I just tested it out again after a year, when it was really bad. Performance has imrpoved a lot (interface lag), making it usuable again. But it uses very little memory compared to Chrome. With Chrome, with no other programs open, 8+ tabs were going into the page file and had to be reloaded later. Widnows laptop, 4GB RAM. Ridiculous. I'm really thinking about switching back to Firefox permanently.

The only problem is, I like sync, and Firefox on Android is still shit. Where do I want the better browsing experience, laptop or phone? Hmm...
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>>55707136
Not in the slightest.
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It didn't occur to you that perhaps the content itself has changed an requires more ram?

>>55705472

Well specialfag, if you're such a smartypants, figure out why the fuck you need 400+ tabs open.
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>>55705197
RAM usage is entirely based on the websites you're viewing you gigantic faggot. It's almost like web browsing has become much more saturated with high-resolution multimedia content or something, go figure
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>>55705391

Why don't you just bookmark it without sorting it, then? I can't see any way that this would be less convenient than having all of those tabs open.

It seems to me that the issue here isn't browsers or websites, but rather, you failing to make proper use of the tools provided to you. If your computer were given a workload by someone who isn't an idiot and generally only has a few tabs open at any given time, you could have your browser, a game, and a couple of office programs open at the same time and still probably be using like 30% of your RAM. People who act like web bloat is some kind of epidemic are retarded.
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>>55707007
>>55707103

Normiecucks will never get it. anon. They are lightweight basic bitches that use one tab for ZOGbook, one for their grindr profile and one for their e-mail.

>>55707093

Finally one useful reply, this nigga also gets it.
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>>55706511
>that's a lot of clutter
>opting for hundreds of tabs open at once instead
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>>55707223

Or it could be that people who aren't idiots know that bookmarks and feeds exist.
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>>55707263
Damned straight.

>>55707271
I use bookmarks and feeds in addition to hundreds of tabs.
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>>55705197
Shita troll.
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>>55707190
this tbqhf
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>>55707007
If you have so many tabs open you're hindering your ability to navigate them. User experience as well. Reorganize your workflow, so many people(like you) do stupid shit without realizing it can be done much faster but are fearing the change.
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>>55707344
>If you have so many tabs open you're hindering your ability to navigate them
Not at all
>User experience as well
How?
>Reorganize your workflow
No, I only recently started working this way and I prefer it.

Jesus christ kid, just accept that not everyone's the fucking same.
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>>55707281

Drop the hundreds of tabs part and you'll be using your web browser like a rational person.

Tabs are for quick access to tasks that you're partaking in currently.
Bookmarks are for things that you want to look at later.

If you're fapping, keep the tabs for porn searches open. When you're done, save the things that you want to save, bookmark any good websites that you might have found, and close the tabs.
If you're actively following threads on 4chan, keep the tabs open. If you go to do something else, use 4chan X to bookmark the threads that you care about and then close the tabs. If a thread is really slow, bookmark that and close the tab. If you don't really care about the thread, then just close the tab.
If you find an interesting news article, either read it now or bookmark it for later.

Don't act like a retard and then blame it on other people when your resources get eaten up.
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>>55707383
>Not at all
You don't see them all simultaneously - this defeats their whole purpose.
>How?
By slowing it down.
>No, I only recently started working this way and I prefer it.
You're wrong then.
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>>55707404
>Drop the hundreds of tabs part
No thanks
>Tabs are for quick access to tasks that you're partaking in currently
Exactly
>Bookmarks are for things that you want to look at later.
Which is my point. I'm not going to bookmark something just because I'll be using it here and there for the next few days, I'll just keep the fucking tab open. Bookmarks are for websites I know I need at some point in the future, I'm not going to clutter them with simple shit I only temporarily need when I can just not close the damned tab.

>>55707407
>You don't see them all simultaneously - this defeats their whole purpose
Not in the slightest.
>By slowing it down.
You can't just make shit up, anon.
>You're wrong then.
Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different preferences.
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just came back after a short outing, and decided to look at the thread again, and I finally got it

8/10 OP, finely executed troll thread. I'd go as far as to say you had all of us believing you.

>>55705197
>>55705800
>>55706001
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>>55707457
>Not in the slightest.
Completely. If you need to scroll your tabs you might as well just make a bookmark: you can even have folders there, etc. Bookmarks bar is a thing.
>You can't just make shit up, anon.
Literally read the OP.
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>>55707476
>Completely. If you need to scroll your tabs you might as well just make a bookmark
See >>55707457
>I'm not going to bookmark something just because I'll be using it here and there for the next few days, I'll just keep the fucking tab open. Bookmarks are for websites I know I need at some point in the future, I'm not going to clutter them with simple shit I only temporarily need when I can just not close the damned tab.

>Literally read the OP.
Literally works fine for me.
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>>55705900
>millennials

gay buzzword
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> 2007 and 2016 web technologies are the same
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>>55707136
Except for long documents dragging the scroll bar is faster than using the mouse wheel. Maybe when you grow up and get a job that requires you to actually review information you'll realise that.
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>>55707457

>Exactly

You're not partaking in 700 tabs worth the tasks at once.

> Bookmarks are for websites I know I need at some point in the future, I'm not going to clutter them with simple shit I only temporarily need when I can just not close the damned tab.

But you'll clutter up your tabs? The whole point of tabs is near instant access to things that are immediately relevant to what you're doing at the moment. Do you know how long it would take me to get to the other threads that I have open? Literally a mere second. I can see the titles for all of them right at this very moment without sorting through anything, so all I have to do is place my mouse there and click. Comparatively, your method has you sorting through hundreds of tabs every time you want to look at another page. When you get up to more than maybe ten tabs, you're killing the benefits of tabbed browsing, and you might as well just abandon it.

You also realize that you can delete the damn bookmark just like you can close the damn tab, right? It literally takes three seconds, less per deletion if you open the bookmarks menu and just ctrl-click and/or shift-click on anything that you've lost interest in. This would actually take less time than sorting through hundreds of tabs to decide what you do and don't want to lose. You can also name every bookmark, making it much easier to sort through massive amounts of information.

So let's sum this up.

Downsides:

Lose loads of time when accessing immediately relevant information
Eat up so much RAM that not even 16 GB is enough
Have a harder time locating things that you've kept around for later viewing
Lose time when removing clutter


Benefits:

Nothing, you would have to be a drooling idiot to do this.
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Thia thread is full of kids who think the only thing you do on a PC is browse a few threads on 4chan and fap. Of course you don't need more than 3 or so tabs for that shit.

The users complaining about the topic in the OP are people who use more than 10 tabs for information purposes for a task right now.

Imagine you're browsing wikipedia and you see 3 new articles you wish to read. You're saying you would bookmark each individual item instead of simply middle clicking the link and caching it in your open tabs? And you say WE are inefficient? Gtfo normie scum
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>>55705197
>bloated platforms
>spaghetti markup from shitty WYSIWYG IDEs
>"girl coders"
>muh clicks, need more obnoxiously bloated ads
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>>55707765
>You're not partaking in 700 tabs worth the tasks at once.
Of course not, but whatever I am doing currently, I've got tabs open still from yesterday when I was doing just that
>But you'll clutter up your tabs?
No I won't. Each group of tabs gets a tab stack, and within the stacks go further organization. If a project gets large enough, I use a separate window as a master stack for tab stacks just for that project.
>The whole point of tabs is near instant access to things that are immediately relevant to what you're doing at the moment.
So what?
>Do you know how long it would take me to get to the other threads that I have open? Literally a mere second.
Same here bud
>I can see the titles for all of them right at this very moment without sorting through anything, so all I have to do is place my mouse there and click
It works literally the same for me. Whatever I'm currently doing, I've got that tab stack open. So changing tabs is as easy for you as it is for me. It's only tabs I'm not currently making use of that I can't see, and that's perfectly fine because I don't need them right this second, I need them when I need them.
>Comparatively, your method has you sorting through hundreds of tabs every time you want to look at another page.
Not even fucking close. You're just making broad assumptions with very little knowledge of my browsing habits and using said assumptions as facts against me. That's not how that works, you fucking dumbass.
>When you get up to more than maybe ten tabs, you're killing the benefits of tabbed browsing
Not in the slightest.
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>>55707887
cont
>Lose loads of time when accessing immediately relevant information
But that's false.
>Eat up so much RAM that not even 16 GB is enough
I've only got 6GB and it works fine
>Have a harder time locating things that you've kept around for later viewing
Not at all
>Lose time when removing clutter
Not really. When I'm done with a tab stack I can close the whole stack by right clicking and clicking "close stack"
>Benefits:
Organized
Bookmarks remain uncluttered
Works for me (really as long as this is true I don't see why the fuck you should care so much, I don't rip on you for only ever having 4chan, Facebook, and Twitter open.)

>>55707822
All of my this
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I use SeaMonkey and while Session Manager is available for it I do wish it had Firefox's pinned tabs. I am particular about not having more than 25 tabs open at a time but do have 1000+ bookmarks. No one wants to sort bookmarks unless you're an autistic NEET like me.
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>>55707822

If you have hundreds of tabs open, it's pretty obvious that you're not reading every last one of those articles.

I might open all three articles, but rather than keeping those tabs open forever like an idiot, I'd close the tabs after I moved on to a different task. If the article were so important that I absolutely needed to read it at a later date, I'd bookmark it. Otherwise, I'd just move on. If I didn't bookmark it and I wanted to read it, I'd just find it. Otherwise, it'd share the same final fate of all of those useless tabs that you have open and be closed without ever being read.

Somebody should force you to spend the next year playing games that have strict inventory management. Maybe you'll come out of it as a bit less of a digital hoarder.
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Someone has tab addiction
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>>55707344
>Reorganize your workflow

I've reorganized it several ways, but still end with hundreds of tabs. For instance, when doing my 4chan/KC/Kripplechan/Ylilauta shitposting I end with several threads open easily. I use 4chan x, which has helped to reduce dozens of tabs for 4chan at least.

>If you're fapping, keep the tabs for porn searches open. When you're done, save the things that you want to save, bookmark any good websites that you might have found, and close the tabs.

I already do that, still need to find a solution for booru binges.

>If you're actively following threads on 4chan, keep the tabs open. If you go to do something else, use 4chan X to bookmark the threads that you care about and then close the tabs. If a thread is really slow, bookmark that and close the tab. If you don't really care about the thread, then just close the tab.
If you find an interesting news article, either read it now or bookmark it for later.

That's what I do, still end with loads of tabs because the browser crashes before I finish reading the treads I keep open. Crashing really sets me back.
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>>55705197
Websites then:
Small, mainly html with properly compressed images, adds are contained and probably gifs if animated at all.

Websites now:
Huge long rambling mess, png everywhere, pobably has to fetch bootstrap, jquerry and a bunch of redundant javascript libraries which are literally used once for something trivial. Poor browser strains under the weight of badly written js functions(gotta have those animated buttons). Browser has to wait for shitty back end framework to gather your personal details before it can render properly. Then the embedded adds each need their own rake-off of memory etc.

tl;dr The www is broken, and becomes more broken with each passing day. At some stage it is going to be largely unusable.
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>have 10 videogames running at same time on pc
>complain about poor optimization of games cause they run like shit on my $1600 gaming machine
>"why don't you just have the game you're playing be the only one running?"
>"OMG WHY DO I HAVE TO CHANGE MG ENTIRE LIFESTYLE JUST SO I CAN GET ACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE?! FUCKING INDIAN CODERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>>55708661
Spotted the twelve year old
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>>55708670
Don't be ageist
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>>55708674
Don't be retarded
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>MFW firefox flash plug-in crashes and ballons to 2GB in a matter of seconds.
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>>55708681
Did I trigger you anon-kun? :^)
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It's not the fault of the browser as much as it is the websites'.
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>>55705988
yes of course why would you ever use a library you can do it all in vanilla! fucking retard go hang yourself
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