>AIB 1060s for 10€ more than cheapest RX480s Lol. There

Its fucking retarded. The 1060 is so cheap for some reason, makes me almost regret getting a 1070. Its like half the fucking price.

>>55667504
Well there was>/is a high demand for the 1070, it sells for much more than the msrp, while the 1060s sticks pretty much to the msrp. At least here...

>>55667545
Msrp is a meme. They intentionally marked up the price for the founders edition so others can use that as pricing range.

The reason AIB for 1060 are going down to 480 level is because 480/1060 are too close of a performance segment and therefore creates competition. Also the fact that 480 AIB are going to be released within a week or so

>>55667504
the reason is simple, nvidia is limiting 1070/1080 in europe, so retailers are price gauging, since there is competition. If nvidia tried to limit 1060 in europe we would be seeing 400euro 1060 and everybody would be buying 480

>>55667504
In the uk there are gtx 1070's for 379 quid now. The price has dramatically lowered in the past couple of weeks. There's only about a £100 difference between the two now.

AMD is seriously fucking finished

>>55668718
cant wait for the nvidia monopoly. next generation high-end gpu's starting at 1000 shekels

you just know its gonna happen

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>>55668816
>""""""next-generation""""""
It will be the GT8800 all over again, they will just sell the same shit with new name since they have 0 competitors.

>no reason to get a 480
No Freesync support, no buy. Simple as that.

>>55667484
I'll give you a reason
>g-sync
Enjoy your 200$+ extra costs.

>>55669471
g-sync monitor prices will go down over time. Also if you are poor fag, and have monitor already why the fuck 1060 not having freesync would bother you? Its not like you will buy new monitor. Neither 480 or 1060 can really play games at 1440p.

Buying 480 or 1060 and freesync or gsync monitor is fucking retarded.

>>55669529
I do more then 5 years with a monitor unlike the GPU. My current one is long overdue. In 2 years I'll replace the 480 with something better that's guaranteed to max out 1440p

Also you can game on 1440p with a 480 if you aren't a retard that cranks everything up to the max. A lot of settings don't do shit and put heavy load on the GPU.

>nvidia jews want you to purchase 1060 over rx480
>async is gonna destroy 1060 in the near future, check hitman and aots dx12 benchmarks
>nvidia users get cucked again and feel the need to upgrade
>gtx 1060 price is stable or gets even a bit cheaper in the run
>people will buy it and won't notice it doesn't support sli but stick with it because they're too stupid to notice

>>55667484
MAD LITERALLY BTFO

>>55669550
So why does it matter the extra 100-200$ cost on monitor for you? G-sync is better than freesync in general. If the monitor last for you that long the extra cost is literally nothing. Unless you are complete poorfag and cant offerd new decent monitor and just buy the cheapeast 1440p monitor available.

>>55669574
>sli matter if you only have 1 card
>pascal supports async
>hitman is broken as fuck
>aots is also amd game
>1060 is literally faster than 980gtx, have 2gb more ram and supports all dx12 features
>1060 is also faster than 480
>Still no custom 480, you can get custom 1060 for same price as 480 in europe

>>55669628
This. G-sync is way better, freesync doesn't even work in windowed mode.

>>55669675
did you just confirm that you are missing that the 1060 doesn't provide sli?

>>55668816
Good. At least the cards will be good unlike shitty cheap AMD crap.

>>55669701
yes im missing it very much, its most important feature of of any nvidia card

>>55669675
>Still no custom 480, you can get custom 1060 for same price as 480 in europe

This desu. How did amd fuck up their euro pricing so bad.

You guys don't play chess much do you?

>>55669746
AMD is just run by retards now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V54W4p1mCu4

>>55669685
how is gsync way better than freesync other than not offering windowed support? last i checked you have to manually opt for gsync to work in windowed mode and even then it doesn't work half the time and or would affect performance.
gsync is a fucking scam and you know it but you'll keep defending it because of stockholm syndrome.

just in case you need proof that gsync and freesync are hardly any different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzHxhjcE0eQ
>>55669706
just fucking kill yourself already.

You guys seem to be under the FALSE impression that AMD is stopping AiB for some reason, in reality, they're selling the reference Rx480's SO WELL that they can't get their hands on any cards to put better coolers and 8 pins on yet, someone said yesterday there was a single online shop with like 5k backorders for the Rx480's.

>>55669785
Gsync is clearly better. Freesync is just a cheap imitation just like all AMD crap.

>>55669783
this fucking shill, imidiatly talking about doom vulkan, which devs themself comfirmed nvidia doesnt have support yet... also imidiatly shilling about 1060 being slower than 980, even though techpowerup (regarded as more fair and square reviewers) rated it complety equal to 980 and it will obvs outperform it in future do to 6gb ram and pascal architecture..
God damn this adored shill.

>>55669783
>t-these games don't count

Kekkkkk. Full on damage control. He actually removed the average scores from project cars because of muh nvidia optimization yet he doesn't mention hitman and it's heavy optimization for GCN. He's mad and it's easy to see. I'm glad that most people, including non deluded amd fans write him off as a laughing stock now.

>>55669890
Yeah it's funny cuz the 1060 is actually 1-2% faster than a 980.

>>55669892
you say it like this is the first time he's making statements like these.

he got good points though on how benchmark sites review their stuff.. fucking battlefield and project cars in this day and age, no assetto corsa at all

>>55669675
>aots is also amd game
Really? Which proprietary AMD api did AotS use?
>1060 is literally faster than 980gtx
False.
>have 2gb more ram
False.
>1060 is also faster than 480
False, at least as a blanket statement. For some games yes, for others no.

>>55668718
>AMD is seriously fucking finished

Not really, they are shipping chips for all major consoles this decade.

>>55668816
They already have monopoly. Didn't you notice the 1080 costing $700 on the market and the 1070 costing $500?

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>>55669980
1060 is objectively faster than both a 980 and especially a 480.

>>55669980
>these games dont count only AOTS and Hitman and doom in vulcan count
>1060 doesnt have 2gb more ram then 980
>aots isnt shilled as fuck by AMD everywhere (even fucking when they premeried 480, they didnt shill using it)

>>55670007
AMD is losing almost a million every year, they are in deep trouble.

>>55670026
>AMD is losing a million every day, they are in deep trouble.
fixed it for you

>>55669529
>g-sync monitor prices will go down over time

No they won't. They haven't gone down a cent since they were introduced two and a half years ago. The price of the extra board is a constant, and Nvidia are so dominant that they have zero need to cut prices on anything.

>>55670008
How was that measured?

>>55670020
>these games dont count only AOTS and Hitman and doom in vulcan count
Never said that.
>aots isnt shilled as fuck by AMD everywhere)
How does that make it an AMD game? I'd call Gameworks titles nVidia games since they're actually made with a nVidia proprietary API. AotS isn't, it just runs better.

>>55670044
its not nvidia who will slash prices, but monitor manufacturers, once they introduce new models, old models will get there prices slashed.

>>55670040
Damn you are right, holy shit, they are doing far worse than I thought.

>>55670076
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/26.html

>>55670076
>its not amd ggaeem or anything baka
http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/featured/ashes-of-the-singularity#

>>55670076
>really not amd game, really dont check the bottom of the game you wont see amd logo or anything
http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/

>>55669977
These games are very highly marketed so it would be beneficial for benchmarkers to test with these games. Battlefield 4 is still very popular on pc so it's an easy choice of benchmark and project cars is a very well known normie racing sim. It benefits the viewers if they test mainstream games instead of arguably better games but are less well known. Project cars is still way more popular and known than assetto corsa.

>>55670097
>This page shows a combined performance summary of all the tests on previous pages, broken down by resolution. Each chart shows the tested card as 100% and every other card's performance as relative to it.
Wow, so clear!

>>55670098
>AMD features on their website a game that runs well on their cards
>this makes it an AMD game
Let's try this again: nVidia LITERALLY makes an API for games to run better on their cards. AMD does not. There are no "AMD games", but there are "nVidia games".
Whenever you want to post some proof to your claim, feel free.

>>55670144
AMD logo is featured on game website as well

>>55670144
>can't even understand a simple review

AMDummies are seriously brain damaged.

>>55670076
>what is architectural optimization

>>55670122
>a logo means sponsors own the product
Lol'd. Marlboro owns Ferrari?

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>>55667484
try not living in a 3rd world country

>>55670137
The reviewers*

>>55670158
>I have no counter-point
>"lmao u r dumb xDDDD"

>>55670154
Oh wow.

>>55670161
>what is proving it
If you show me that pretty much every game, even other DX12 where nVidia wouldn't really intervene, run better on the 1060 while AotS runs better on AMD, that might put some weight on your claim. Meanwhile all you have is a logo.

>>55670167
>buy 4gb 480
>Hope to flash it to 8gb like other AMD fans
>it doesnt work, you just bricked the card
>Buy another one
>Cuck

>>55670198
The 1060 is not powerful enough to use 6GB of VRAM, and the RX480 is not powerful enough to use 8GB.
However I cannot find listings for the 3GB 1060 anywhere that#s relevant

>>55670162
Its means AMD sponsors them you fuckin retard. Just like Malboro sponsors Ferrari to make it look good.

>>55670167
>4gb

There's the problem. It's even slower than the 8gb 480 which itself is slower than a 1060. There are 1060s cheaper than that btw.

>>55670190
There's nothing to counter. AMDummies are literally so retarded they can't even read a review.

>>55670210
There is no 1060 with 3gb, the supposed card with with GP106 core and 3gb is 1050ti. It will be released versus 470.

>>55670231
>There's nothing to counter.
I'm really sorry you realized you were wrong.

>>55670213
>Its means AMD sponsors them you fuckin retard. Just like Malboro sponsors Ferrari to make it look good.
But the claim was "AotS is an AMD game", not "AMD sponsors AotS", anon. There's no need to resort to insult just because you're wrong.

>>55670279
It is amd game, like Project cars is Nvidia game

>>55670190
What is mantle? Who made mantle? What architecture was mantle specifically designed for? What did mantle end up becoming?

>>55670144
>There are no "AMD games", but there are "nVidia games".
Why would you get AMD then

>>55670297
that guy is literally getting blown the fuck out in this thread, and he keeps coming back, srsly, i am sad for that amd shill

>>55670223
Show me a cheaper one

Protip, I've already filtered by price on Scan, OCUK, and eBuyer

>>55670291
No it isn't, because Project Cars used a proprietary nVidia API while AotS used no proprietary AMD API. I feel like this part is hard to understand for you people.

>>55670297
Oh ok show me where AotS uses Mantle.

>>55670320
Laughed.

>>55670327
You are UKuk so obviously its more expensive in your shithole

>>55670320
This.

Nvidia games are pretty good too, like witcher 3 and rise of the tomb raider. Fallout 4 was OK but it's still better than anything amd was sponsoring. Why would anyone buy a gpu from a company which you know will have inferior performance in games that matter? Eg all those goty contenders I named above.

>>55670327
There's one on ocuk for 229. About 10 quid more than an 8gb 480. You must be blind.

>>55670335
>This guys know what did and did not do with the games or what money devs taken from AMD and Nvidia and what they promised to do

>>55667484
Well sure there is a reason
Infact I can mention two right now
DX12 and Vulkan

>>55670279
AMDtards everyone, nothing to say at all.

>>55670326
AMDtards are brain damaged. They were dumb enough to buy an AMD card, so you know they're dumb enough to do a lot of stupid shit.

>>55670335
>Oh ok show me where AotS uses Mantle.

Are you really this dense? Mantle and dx12 share almost the same source code. Amd donated code to Microsoft and the khronos group.

>>55670358
I don't want the 8GB one, there is literally no point

>>55670435
Mantle is open source, it's whole mission was to infest khronos and microsoft.

>>55670381
>>55670392
>No counter-point
>Resort to insult and memes

>>55670435
So it's an open API that nVidia chose not to implement, and this is AMD's fault?

>>55670539
>still nothing to say

AMDummies are great proof that you cannot kill that which has no life.

>>55670539
gameworks is open source as well

>>55670562
What do you mean? I posted a counter-point, you did not.

>>55670568
Really? So AMD can look through the entire code and implement the calls on their drivers?

>>55670539
>this damage control and subject shifting

Who is saying anything is amds fault? The original point was directx12 games like aots are based on mantle, which in turn is an api which was originally designed specifically for GCN hence how it can be said that aots is amd optimized. No one can deny this unless you're a deluded shill.

>incoming denial

>>55670453
You're an idiot for buying reference anyway. I'd rather spend 10 quid more on an aib 1060 than spend a little less but end up having to deal with a leaf blower reference 480.

>>55670617
Actually the original claim was "AotS is an AMD game".

>>55670610
Lol you didn't post anything. AMDummy just keeps posting bullshit over and over.

>>55670669
>Replies to a post saying I didn't post anything
Sorry you lost.

>>55670660
No it wasn't. My original post >>55670161

>he's doesn't understand what architectural optimization is

>>55670680
Sorry I won, it's ok.

>>55670689
So you joined midway through a conversation. Your NEW claim was different from the ORIGINAL claim.

>>55670695
Proof?

>>55670726
It's pretty obvious.

>>55670779
So no proof?

>>55670698
You replied to my post which means you decided to attempt to refute my claim of architectural optimization. Don't try and shift it.

>>55670855
>You replied to my post which means you decided to attempt to refute my claim of architectural optimization.
But that is completely false, me replying to someone doesn't in any way imply disagreement. I never once said you were wrong, I simply said that didn't make it an AMD game. Because that was the discussion that you joined.

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>>55667484
Good luck nividafags. Wait until Vega comes out and I be and may others will be enjoying HBM2 memory and more performance than gtx 1080

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>>55673252
>"Wait until X comes out!"
>X comes out. It's shit.
>"Y will fix all the mistakes that X had. Just you wait!"
>Y comes out. It's shit.
>"Z will be the next big thing if you'd just WAAAAIT"
>Z releases. It's beyond shit.