Opera thread. What version of opera are you on? Are you sill

>>55662238
>What version of opera are you on?
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>Is Vivaldi a good spiritual successor to old Opera or is it still shit?
Autistic shit

>Why do you prefer Opera to Firefox or Chrome?
>no SJW influence
>no google
>able to pin things to the start page without extensions

>Favorite/least favorite features of Opera?
>favorite
Built-in ad-blocker complements uBlock nicely.
HTML5 video pop-out is pretty swell
As mentioned, website pinning
Fast thanks to it's chrome/blink ancestry
Simple layout
>Least favorite
They haven't officially included the VPN yet
The "super user" settings are hidden behind an autistic "konami code"
Sometimes downloads stall at 99% and just sit there indefinitely when I'm using it on my shitty netbook.

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>>55662238
Moment I read that Opera was being sold to the Chinese, that shit was gone.

Vivaldi is slow sure, but it's almost everything I could want in a browser.
>Tab stacking
>Speed Dial (multiple sets)
>Vertical tabs
>Bookmarks and download in a side panel

China in her eyes...

12.16 reporting in
>why
The abundance of features
>favorite features
Ad blocking
Opera Mail
Opera Turbo
Tab stacks
Sidebar

>>55662238
Chropera is a good browser, but I plan to switch to Brave.
Vivaldi is shit.

>>55662677
>I plan to switch to Brave
I see that this browser is available for download already but seems to be pre-beta, do you have any idea as to when approximately will be released as stable?

>>55662677
Vivaldi is great. It has customization features, i can rice it much more than Opera and Brave

>>55662319
Browsers without customization features or browser developers who remove customization because of simple users are the real autistic shit.

Vivaldi developers add instead tons of features i want to have in my browser. I shit on that simple UI and nice design trend. I want something flexible which lets me re-arrange most elements.

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chrome vs vivaldi
this is osx-tier shit on windows, thanks to the horseshit that npm apps are

i've submitted this exact gif as a bug to vivaldi and it's still not fixed

>>55665993
how does one manage to fuck up an interface element that should be os-specific? how the fuck is it 2016 and developers are still this fucking incompetent?

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>>55662386
Using Opera Stable, both on Windows and Android.

I didn't liked Opera Presto much. Even with all that customization, there was always something that annoyed me.

Opera is just a better Chrome, period. Turbo, VPN, video pop out, download list, tab list, Speed Dial, how it looks and how it uses native notifications.

I would like Google Docs offline mode.

i wonder how much nvidia pays stores to sell just one 1060 with the advertised price and then everything is jacked up 30-40%?

>>55665993
Holy shit, this triggers me.

That is why I disliked Opera Presto. I know it's nitpicking but these kind of details makes me uninstall that shit

>>55662386
Opera hasn't been sold to the Chinese yet. The takedown failed.

>>55667144
i LOVED opera presto
chropera and vivaldi make me fucking switch to chrome

>>55665968
I remember when I last tried Vivaldi on Windows 7 it literally had a Windows 10 window border. They created their own window wrapper instead of just letting Windows use the native one.

They claimed it was written in HTML and it was for speed and efficiency. Yet Vivaldi is still heavier and slower to load than Opera, Chropera, and IE.

If that's not autistic shit I do not know what is.

>>55667144
>these kind of details makes me uninstall that shit
exactly what i did after i recorded the gif. i use the url bar to navigate a lot, and not being able to do that using my fucking mouse makes me a sad boy

>using opera
LOL some chink company bought them

gif guy again here
actually had an argument with a macfag in my office about that url bar feature and the motherfucker kept defending the lack of the feature, because "why would i do that?" unbelievable, these stupid macfags

Vivaldi works well for me on my MacBook. Not so much on windows yet. Has everything I want. It's nice I can use extensions with it.

>>55667287
can you do the thing chrome does here?
>>55665993

i know i tried the thing on a mac, but not in vivaldi specifically. system-wide, it behaves the same as the url bar on vivaldi. that's fucking cancer

and if you can't, how is this acceptable to you?

>>55667279
The acquisition failed.

>>55667285
The same reason they defend iOS and the limited features. Fuck, they can't even set the default browser.

>>55667338
>they defend iOS and the limited features
>meta tag on android to disable zoom removes the touch lag in a webpage
>on ios, with zoom disabled, the delay for double-tap to zoom is still there
>still not fixed in 2016
fucking shithead cock-gobbling macfag retards

>>55667338
no it didn't

Chinks are still buying opera but not all of it

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-opera-software-m-a-china-idUSKCN0ZY0CA

>Opera and the Chinese group have instead come up with an alternative deal worth $600 million which strips out some products and services in a bid to overcome regulatory hurdles.

>It will acquire Opera's mobile phone and desktop computer browser business, its performance and privacy apps division, its technology licensing business, as well as its stake in Chinese joint venture nHorizon.However, the consortium will no longer buy Opera's advertising and marketing business, its TV operations, nor its game-related apps.

>>55667410
Read it. That is just another deal. Just like the last one, this one can fail too, and until the acquisition is complete Opera isn't owned by them.

>>55662238
I used to use Opera but switched to Chrome because too many incompatible websites. I loved Opera's notes, mouse gestures, and clean interface.

I tried Vivaldi but it feels heavy and keeps crashing. Not exactly the perfect spiritual successor to classic Opera but it might get there one day.

>>55665939
>>55665968

Vivaldi is not open source and therefore belongs in the trash.

>>55667442
>it might get there one day
not if they keep using node, it won't. node sucks ass

>>55665993
I see: this isn't parkinsons-friendly at all. But then again, neither are nearly all other UI elements of any mainstream OS or application.

Lower DPI could help you.

>>55667464
>He throws 3Dmark over Blender
>He throws Music Bee over Amarok
>He throws Crash Team Racing over TuxCart

Holy shit dude, what a fucking taste

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>>55667537
Is not about Parkinson, is just the natural way to use the mouse. There is no reason why any program shouldn't work like that when selecting one line of text. Fuck off.

>>55667566
there's no reasoning with a retarded macfag

>>55662238
>12.18
wait what
when did this happen

>>55662238
Used to be on Opera 12.17, but between the multiple HTTPS incompatibilities and other webpage rendering bugs that were becoming more and more common I switched to Pale Moon over half a year ago.

At some point HTTPS pages were loading much slower than their non-secure counterparts, in some sites.

>>55667659
Around the time it was first announced Opera was selling out to the chinks

>>55667464
Fuck Open Source. It is only of interest for people who are too lazy to create their own products.

I use what works best for me, that means Vivaldi, it has features. FUCK... OPEN... SOURCE!

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>>55662238
Chropera on PC and on my phone. On phones it's a rather obvious choice, basically you're fucking retarded if you use anything else, but on PC it's not so clear. Basically, it's the least worst browser now. All PC browsers are fucking awful, simple as that. At least Opera is logical and relatively fast. Firefox has better UI but the engine is unbearably slow, the more tabs you have opened the worse it gets. Chrome's UI has become simply unusable, that shoehorned multi user mode, that fucking new tab page, that download manager. Opera just steadily does everything right. I dislike some gimmick features like VPN and video pop-up, but these can be disabled in flags. Also most of the settings are hidden - this probably scared away countless people. Can't pinpoint a favorite features - they all are essential but done properly.

>>55668709
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>55667464
Open Source is a lame excuse for content theft and lame rippers.

Fuck you criminal scumbag. Fuck you and fuck FOSS

>>55667464
If someone wants to protect their own creations they have the right to do that. Want something which someone else owns, recreate it on your own, but do not demand that they open their gates so you can raid them for free.

So much to /G's much loved open source topic.

>>55668746
t. Vivaldi devs

What's the matter? Afraid someone is going to fork your shitty little clone and make it better?

>>55668805
It is good enough. It is full of customization features, but that is something which little narrow minded asshawks like you are unable to appreciate.

>>55668980
Features don't mean shit when the browser's no more than a Chromium web app.

>>55667464
Just 2 words: Otter Browser

>>55669003
Still, it is customizable. Who cares how it is developed. A feature is a feature, nothing can change that.

>>55669020
>Who cares how it is developed
I do, your browser is a fucking website.

>>55669033
That is the reason why i can rewrite the whole UI with CSS. That is the reason why i use it.

Being like a website=almost limitless options to change it

>>55669048
It's not a good thing, you're just pretending it is.

>>55662238
>using chrome botnet
HA

>>55669056
It is a good thing. Beause i can change more than you can change in your pathetic browser, whatever you are using.

>>55669130
No it's not. It's actually the main reason your browser is such a pain to use.
>he's actually ripping on Opera 12
kek, I use the browser yours pretends to be.

VIVALDI SHILLS GET THE FUCK OUT
IT'S LITERAL SHIT

>>55669143
Well i see it as no pain. I have no problems at all. I have a custom UI, it works flawless for me.

>>55669170
Whatever you say shill

>>55669152
I have more features than your product, so my browser (Vivaldi) is superior. You are just a simple fag which should be burried.

You are the reason why software losing almost all ricing features because you cunts are too stupid to make use of features.

>>55668714
>not using lightning+

>>55662238
nice toilet seat

>>55669174
Shill? I do not care if you are using another browser. I just said i will not give up Vivaldi because I am in love with features.

If you hate features and use a simpleton browser with a static UI and a shiny design, feel free to do so, be happy :)

>>55662238
>What version of opera are you on? Are you sill using good old 12.18? Or have you given in to Chropera?
Latest stable Chropera
>Is Vivaldi a good spiritual successor to old Opera or is it still shit?
Both. But since the chinks bought Opera I hope Vivaldi get their shit together soon.
>Why do you prefer Opera to Firefox or Chrome? Favorite/least favorite features of Opera?
It functions sort of like the old Opera at least superficially.
Battery saver and detachable video window are cool.
Opera's sync is crap.

>>55669185
you're making no sense, vivaldi is objectively shit
>more features
it literally doesn't even have cookie whitelisting, are you serious?

>>55662238
Chromefag since 2009 here. Convince me to switch over to Opera.

>>55669197
You're clearly a shill, the only ones that like Vivaldi are the ones that are paid to.

>>55669174
Thing is, everyone who is using unmodified Chrome or unmodified Chromium should be terminated from this planet.

I would never install something which is offered by Google themselves.

>>55669185
More features doesn't equal a better product.

>>55669201
Cookie whitelisting.. Fuck that. I want to modify my UI. I do not care for simpleton crap features.

>>55669219
this, it's unstsble and bloated as fuck on loonixes

>>55669228
Of course this makes a product a better product. The more you can change, the more options you have, the better.

How narrow minded are you?

>>55669239
Interesting. I never experienced a crash so far in the latest snapshots.

Also, i never would use an operating system which is used by a minority.

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>>55669248
More features don't necessarily mean a worse or better product, it's what the features are and how they're implemented that count. Vivaldi was done poorly, this is undeniable. It may have a lot of features, it may have the features you want, but they did a horrible job with the implementation.

Vivaldi.. Chrome/Chromium.. Opera... Firefox... Edge... Safari.... all the same garbage.

If you want a real good browser pick either Brave, Qupzilla or Otter Browser

>>55669281
Still, i will not get rid of it. Get over it :)

>>55669330
Good for you, enjoy your shitware

>>55669281
Also, it is impossible to get all the features of Vivaldi in normal Chromium. The only choice team Vivaldi had was to use a wrapper: one heavily pimped web-app and 2 extensions.

That is all what you can do with Chrome. If you try to hardcode that features you will sooner or later have to give up as Chrome updates way too fast.

>>55669307
>Brave
Literally replacing ads with different ads.

>>55669348
Then they shouldn't have based it on Chromium.

>>55669281
If Mozilla and Opera never would have decided to get rid of built inside customization features, the question of changing browsers never would have arrived in the first place.

This is the real sad thing.

Why in the fuck couldn't they just open source Presto?

>>55669307
closed source shit which sells ads, a piece of shit written in QT or a bare browser that's terribly lacking in features?
damn

>>55669363
Mozilla deconstructs their once customizable code base. That was the reason why Vivaldi has decided not to use Mozillas code base. Chromium and using a couple of wrappers was their only option.

>>55669397
Then Vivaldi never should've been a thing.

>>55669381
Brave is Open Source you fag. And browsers made with QT are far from crappy.

Also, in Brave you can easily back out that ads code. If you do not like it, compile it on your own.

>>55669412
Wrong. We are in need for a browser with many features.

All browsers today go with simplictiy and minimalism only. This is not acceptable for a real power user.

>>55669419
>Brave is Open Source
wat, did that happen recently? I was pretty sure it wasn't open source when it first got shilled here

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>>55669188
I'm sorry but it's garbage.
>no fast scroll buttons
>shit download manager
>shit new tab page but at least you can set bookmarks instead
>no sync

>>55669430
We are, but Vivaldi is so shitty it's even worse than not having the features. They seriously should've just started with SeaMonkey.

>>55669412
Seriously, i find you simple fags disgusting. Always remember: simplictiy and minimalism and design only is a fucking concept for brain dead butt-monkeys :D

>>55669441
Simple? I use Opera 12.16 because it has more features than any other browser could dream of.

>>55669436
Brave was always Open Source. They have been since the beginning on Github.

>>55669451
Opera 12.16 is deprecated. It is Chinese crapware soon.

>>55669469
that's why we have 12.18 now

>>55669469
Deprecated yet still the best choice. What a wonderful time we live in.

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>>55669248
Of course, how narrow-minded of me. We should shoehorn in every possible feature that someone might use, even if literally one person uses it because that will clearly make a better product.

Picture related, it's you.

>>55669477
12.17+ is Windows only

>>55669439
Seamonkey will be another Firefox Chrome UI imitation once XUL is killed, Seamonkey team is too small to keep their special features.

>>55669477
Still, Opera is Chinese soon. No matter which version, it will be in Chinese hands. No thanks!

>>55669430
It's a fucking web browser. Speed, simplicity, and efficiency is all that matters.

There are no "power users". It's a fucking browser. The closest thing a real "power user" would want is a clean and efficient browser that is expendable. That's what Opera is.

A power user would not want a heavy, slow, inefficient browser like Vivaldi.

A Power User would want a minimal browser that they could customize to their very "special needs", not a all-in-one browser.

I've come to the conclusion that you're a Vivaldi developer, that's the only possible reason you're so hard-headed and narrow-minded.

>>55669498
>Chinese backdoored hardware is okay
>but Chinese software is a no-no

>>55669515
"power user" here, I disagree entirely. Vivaldi's got the right idea with the features but implementing them as a website is where they went wrong. Seriously if someone could just clone Opera 12.16, that'd be great.

>>55669430
Power users don't tinker with UI, they need actual fucking FEATURES.

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I love it when people call themselves "Power Users" when talking about a web browser.

It's like a Janitor calling themselves a "Sanitation Engineer".

>>55669597
I don't get the issue. It's simply people indicating they require more from a browser than being able to load facebook

>>55669597
Being a janitor likewise can be more than simple moping.

>>55669623
Do you guys get extra from vomit and blood ?

>>55669636
No, I do it for free.

>>55669636
and other assorted Shit...

I'm on Chropera and love it.

I was worried about Chinese but after some thinking I rather be part of the Chinknet than American botnet (Google) and SJW brigade (Firecuck).

>>55669597
I want to ravage this snail's mouth

>>55669454
yea my bad
but then again
>based on chromium
why even bother

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Are you using a 32bit or a 64bit version?

>>55667338
I saw an article that said the first acquisition failed. But, they renegotiated the sale down from $1.2B to $600M. Did the chinks give up on trying to acquire Opera?

>>55669204
Everytime you download some shit, a fucking bar appears on the bottom of the screen, making you close it if you want your space back. Opera has a Download list.

Everytime you have a lot of fucking tabs open, and you want to find a specific tab, is a mess. Opera has tab lists.

Opera has something called video pop out. Open YouTube, watch a video and click on the icon above it, so you can keep watching while browsing something else.

>>55671205
opera is still based on chromium which is a piece of shit.
Why can't we just have a proper new engine instead of relying on just 2 ?

>>55671236
What is better than Chromium? Geecko? Trident?

>>55671284
it's still shit, even if it's better than others

>>55671312
What are you expecting to Chromium to do? To give you a blowjob while you browse?

>>55671404
>What are you expecting to Chromium to do? To give you a blowjob while you browse?
Yes at a minimum.

>>55662238
47.0.1 says the about page

>>55662238
I use 12.17 on my old computer that has 2gb of DDR2. I use Otter Browser which I consider the true spiritual successor of old Opera as a secondary browser on my main machine. Opera Turbo is a killer feature.