/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Nth for fucking with the newfags.

Does zsh come with a keylogger like bash does?

I thought you guys said lunix was more secure? I installed gentoo like you said and it asked if I wanted to install NSA selinux but i though only windows was backdoored?!?

Guy using osx to ssh into centos here.

Tab complete now enabled - works for commands. I can just copy and paste the filenames in terminal though for now...

Hacks for bash:

1.)
bind '"\e[5~": history-search-backward'
bind '"\e[6~": history-search-forward'

Usage example:
Type "vim" and use PGUP/PGDWN to cycle through all previous vim commands in your history.

suggestion: go to http://www.shell-fu.org/lister.php?top and learn those commands.

some commands:
ctrl-r to find a command from the history
ctrl-a to go to the start of the line, ctrl-e to go to the end
ctrl-w to delete a word, ctrl-y to paste the word you deleted

Hacks for bash:

2.)
bind '"ESC[Z": menu-complete'

Usage example:
Type part of a command and cycle through possible autocompletitions (like zsh) via SHIFT+TAB.

>>55618766
>http://www.shell-fu.org/lister.php?top
btw, this should go in the OP IMO. these commands have been really useful for me. in bash, you don't need to type whole commands or press keys a hundred of time like a fucking retard

Hacks for bash:

3.)
bind '"\em": "\eb\ed\C-y\e#man \C-y\C-m\C-p\C-p\C-a\C-d\C-e"

Usage example:
Quickly open the manpage for a command currently under your cursor (like zsh) via ALT+m.

>>55618828
>>55618870
Jeez just put them in one post.

>>55618766
>ctrl-w to delete a word

Is there a shortcut for "delete a word until the next slash"?

>>55618904
meta+backspace

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Currently dd'ing a whole drive with status updates.

Here's the alerts my server is putting out.

I will post again shortly with a picture of DD status listening.

Am I correct in thinking that DD forces the drive to reread every time there is an error?

Is this basically going to kill the drive once it is done?

The drive has "problems" but most of it works (possible platter flaw?). If dd copies data will it always be the correct data?

If DD is unable to complete a block, what happens?

>>55618904
alt-d.

>>55618828
>>bind '"ESC[Z": menu-complete'
actually:
bind '"\e[Z": menu-complete'

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>>55618931
Current listen report in terminal.

If it's progressing with the number of bytes written does that mean it's actually cloning correctly?

What happens then if the device is unreadable at a certain point?

Anyone on Manjaro? How long since your last update?

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Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents

Training videos for GNU/Linux (torrents)
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Ported videogames (torrents)
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

We have one thread on /vg/ - Video Game General, support because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers!!!
>>>/vg/148738720
>>>/vg/148738720
>>>/vg/148738720
>>>/vg/148738720

>>55618784
>>55618784

About time I heard a good explanation of when pushd is useful. Thanks for posting.

>>55618766
some more commands.. (I just learned a few, too!)
ctrl-u to delete everything from the cursor to the start of the line
ctrl- ← or → to jump from word to word
>>55618932
alt-d to delete the next word

>>55619023
nice

>>55618766
btw, also read the comments.
for example, as http://www.shell-fu.org/lister.php?id=54#comment-4 says, the first command listed there can be reduced to

alias webshare='python -m SimpleHTTPServer'

and I found that this could be reduced further:

alias webshare='python3 -m http.server'

>>55619102
Did you know that on some distros like Ubuntu you already have a running apache server?

http://localhost

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>>55619285
>webserver runs by default

for what purpose

what does lets encrypt name the ca.cert.pem?

anyone have a clue here?

>>55619285
wtf?

i hate canonical now!

>>55619311
Well, people can disable it.
sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove

>>55619311
>>55619357

what's wrong with that?
ubuntu is made for ppl who just want everything werk out of the box

>>55619285
>>55619311
I'm on Debian, it seems to run by default as well.

>>55619459
Edit /var/www/index.html and create a sweet browser startpage. :)

>>55619285
that's not the point of >>55619102, though... by running "python3 -m http.server", you can share ANY folder. this also works on windows... think about the possibilities.
of course this won't execute any programs, it will just help share files

Urgent: If I run SSH on a laptop and it tells the computer to perform a command, can I take the laptop out into an environment where it cant connect?

Please no bully

>>55619523

ssh user@host command args

will execute the command with the args... you could just copy the output in a new file in the other system
you should tell us what you need to do, though

>>55619523
You'll need to elaborate a bit more... I want to say 'yes' but your question isn't very clear.

>>55619594
I have a home server. And a laptop. I have ssh'd into the laptop.

I am running a very slow dd from the laptop

Will it keep going if I move the laptop out of a place where it can connect to the server?

>>55619678
SSH'd into the server with the laptop*

I need to go to work - probably with the laptop - soon. So I am wondering if that will mess it up.

>>55619102
https://gist.github.com/willurd/5720255

>>55619678
>>55619688

Unless you move the dd to the background, yes, it will be interrupted. Press ctrl+z then enter the command bg, then you should be able to leave.

In the future run everything you do via ssh in a tmux or screen session so that you can disconnect and reconnect at will.

>>55619688

nohup

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http://worldwidemann.com/the-sad-state-of-linux-download-security/

Discuss.

>>55619713
this doesnt make sense to me.

Can you please walk me through it.

>>55619459
You selected it during the installation.
(The step where you also selected your DE)

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>>55619850
>>55619713
So I've got this.

What do I do now? (This is a shot from the laptop)

>>55619764
I don't even need to open this to know it is mostly about mint and manjaro

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>>55619764
>say fedora is best
>say instructions are clear
>footnote says they're hard to find

0/10 garbage tier shilling

>>55619867

bg

>>55619899
Cool.

So now that I've done bg, does that mean it's running on the server and I can leave?

Or do I terminate it as >>55619867 here and then do bg when I return?

Thanks. You're a hero

>>55619938
once bg is done it's running in the background on the server and when you get back you can run

kill -USR1 $(pidof dd)

to show the progress (if it hasn't finished by then).

>>55619959
my watch -n5 'sudo kill -USR1 `pgrep ^dd`' started again automatically

You're a smart guy :)

>>55619707
you don't need to specify the port
but yeah, I forgot to mention, you CAN specify the port... and the default port is 8000

>>55619881
ubuntu also doesn't even offer https in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/

>>55619881
>manjaro
Tell me, what's insecure with using Manjaro, wise memer?

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>>55619999
Not that there was ever any reason to expect the slightest hint of security from ubuntu.

>>55619975
>kill -USR1 `pgrep ^dd`
why not pkill dd?

>>55620275
because I don't actually know what I am doing

>>55618567
Who do you think Richard Stallmans waifu is?

>>55618567
That bleeding colors effect is acutually nice.
Is there a way to do this with imagemagick?

>>55620618
the most elusive of them all.

freedom

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what's wrong with KDE ?

why is it not getting love ?

>>55620850
It's like 9 PB with all its dependencies.

>>55620618
>>55620777

I'm imagining she's an autistic furry.

>>55620850
Nothing wrong with it per se but it's not everyones cup of tea.
Most configurable but as usual, the more freedom you have to fuck around the harder things are to use (generally speaking).
Most of us poorfags don't like it because it is resource heavy compared to the alternatives hence our 5 year old laptops can feel sluggish.

>>55620850
Folk around here seem to tend toward minimalism, myself included.

I like the polish of KDE, but it just seemed so busy, and was slower to load on my Asus shitbook.

>>55620618
there was an email where he was talking about a woman he met. She already had a man in her life but they were libertine. Stallman replied he didn't mind that and asked her to be her honorary girlfriend.
I've been looking for the screenshots of those mails for a long time. It was posted one in /g/

>>55620850
It feels like it's too bloated

>>55620929
ofc he'd be a cuck...

>>55620944
actually, he wouldn't be a cuck, he would make another man a cuck.

>fuck around with ubuntu for first time in years
>paid software in their retarded "app store"

What the actual fuck? It's not like commercial software, it's shitty attempts to clone things like top and youtube-dl sold for $3.

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>>55620981
[flicks lights on and off] Welcome to hell! Welcome to hell!

openSUSE Tumbleweed or Antergos?
Too lazy to fuck around with vanilla Arch, call it whatever you want.

Which one and why?

>>55618996
>We have one thread on /vg/ - Video Game General, support because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers!!!
I guess you're the same guy from the other day. As I said, a linux thread in /vg/ won't be successful that's why /fglt/ is the unique place you can talk about linux gaming. Maybe another place would be the steam group or a chat group (irc, telegram, discord... anything).

And I'm surprised my pasta survived from the thread we did few weeks ago.

>>55620906
>5 year old laptops can feel sluggish.
what kind of cpu do you have ?

my main laptop is a core2duo from mid 2000

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>>55621017
I'm really happy because I just got PCSX2 working out of the box with no fucking around on Debian.

Persona 3 with my dualshock 4. Feels fucking comfy, man.

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oh for fuck's sake

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>>55621051
Set your clock back to 1969.

>>55621073
>please work around our ineptitude
The official motto of /fglt/

Anyone here play Civilization V?

I've noticed that on Linux it crashes after it's been open for a long time, say 2 hours

How can I troubleshoot why this happens, since it doesn't provide any error prompts? It just straight up closes

>>55621022
i7 2670QM. More than enough for whatever I throw at it.
core2duo and upwards are fine for most applications you'd use a laptop for I find so you're ok mate ;)

>>55621073
wtf ? is that real ?

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>>55620944
>>55620963

>>55621143
I play it a lot and never had a single issue, and I play it for hours.

Best way would be to launch it from the terminal, you should have the logs written here I think.
Run steam from the terminal or can try to launch civilization 5 from the terminal directly. The binary file is here :

~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Sid\ Meier\'s\ Civilization\ V/Civ5XP

>>55621177
Never gets old.
Stallman's a player.

>want to uninstall (then reinstall) Firefox in Debian
>The following packages will be removed: cinnamon-desktop-environment

That's a no, then?

>>55621177
you really deserve your dubs. Thx man

>>55621220
Why do you want to uninstall and reinstall Firefox? You can just wipe it to default settings

I agree it's a bity crappy though that some things are just seemingly glued to the rest of the DE. Maybe someone can help you though with a command I'm not aware of

>>55621215
Question: did you get anti-aliasing working? in my game the options for AA are greyed out.

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>>55621236
I've the other parts too.
(If anyone want's to merge them).
1/4

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2/4

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3/4

part 4 already posted

>>55621294

>rms: >open
>rms: stopped reading there
kek

How secure are launchpad PPAs?

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Xubuntu 16.04
>in software and updates, have security updates to download and install automatically
But they don't. Instead, I manually have to run software updater and install.
>software updater and ubuntu software separate
Confusing, even more so when when each have separate updates, e.g. install all updates from software updater, but ubuntu software still lists updates to install, and vice versa. Why are each installing from different repos and not performing the same tasks? Is such fragmentation even safe from a security standpoint?

I mean, Christ, what a mess.

>>55621398
Ubuntu is kind of a mess, yeah. But it has a nice coat of paint on top so it fools you into thinking they have their shit together

>>55621294
> Snowden's example

Who can honestly say this was not treason?

> A U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report declassified in June 2015 said that Snowden took 900,000 Department of Defense files, more than he downloaded from the NSA.[77]

>>55621436
>There are still burger-friends who view Snowden as anything short of a hero

God damn, you guys are thick

>>55621436
Everytime when someone mentions Edward Snowden, everyone should stand up and cheer:

HIPP HIPP HURRAY
HIPP HIPP HURRAY
HIPP HIPP HURRAY

>>55621475
>I am a contrarian faggot who has done nothing relevant with his life so he feels the need to play down the accomplishments of others

>>55620635
As far as I know, it's a recent development from the URL in OP's image. Check their site and they probably have more info

>CIO Journal: With Edward Snowden and the NSA revelations, do you think that general awareness of security and privacy and individual rights has been raised?

>Richard Stallman: Yes, that’s a very good thing. Snowden is a great hero. Three cheers for Edward Snowden.

>CIO Journal: Why, in your opinion, is he a hero?

>RS: Because he told us about the dirty things our government and other governments are doing to us secretly. There’s a famous question: who watches the watchmen? Now we know the answer. Whistleblowers like Snowden watch the watchmen if they can. This is why we must make sure it’s safe to be a whistleblower. If we want democracy, we must make it safe to be a whistleblower. But, that’s not easy to do with all the surveillance there is because the surveillance is used to identify whistleblowers.

http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2014/02/18/richard-stallman-calls-edward-snowden-a-great-hero/

>>55621492
>>55621450
>accomplishments
Look a commie from Moscow will lecture us from his police state.

>>55621540
I guess education is not particularly strong where you come from, huh

>>55621398
you're lucky
imagine being on Arch with everything in a single repo, this is a real mess

>>55621560
>education
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#Early_life.2C_and_education

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9_%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0

>>55621623
arch can do no wrong tho anon

>>55621529
>If we want democracy, we must make it safe to be a whistleblower
at 8:00 if you want to know what happen when you're talking to your superiors about that kind of stuff snowden leaked https://youtu.be/66_Y3GVFbxw
People saying he could do other wise instead of leaking everything and running away from his country are retards.
USA might be one of the worse country when it comes to freedom.

>sudo apt-get install ufw
>seems to work
>ufw: command not found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBM_VwgG92g

>>55621757
sudo ufw , ya dummy

>>55621685
>People saying he could do other wise instead of leaking everything

First of all, a whistle-blower would never leak things he hasn't even read.

>>55621782
sudo ufw enable

>>55621757
sudo apt-get install ufw
sudo ufw enable
Then read: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uncomplicated_Firewall

guys what is a distro that has nvidia drivers on their repo?

New to anything non-windows, is there anyway to get wine running on ARM architecture?

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>>55621017
Ok, I'm going to post here too at the risk of being called out, but will insist on threads over there (and so should you, the pasta survives).

>>55621044
I plan to get a joystick for emulator games but haven't decide on which yet, I want a good one but is hard to get one locally and online sales are a pain in the butt.

Also, Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption, totally recommended. It works beautifully in Wine and is one of the best RPG adaptations, if not the best. The skills mechanics is something you don't see this well worked, is not lineal.

>>55620944
Nah man, if the girl was already in a relationship when stallman started dating her, that would make the other guy a cuck, showing how alpha stallman really is.

I'm trying to git gud with ssh.
Is there somewhat of a test server or something where I can play around with ssh?

I can't get my laptop's screen to turn off. It would automatically turn off until yesterday when it just stopped doing it for no reason. I tried commands like

"xset dpms force off"

but it just comes back on again by itself. wtf?

>>55621829
Most of them. The popular ones for sure. Example, Debian

>>55621866
I don't know, I don't have experience with ARM

>>55622107
Just ssh from a second computer running linux. There's not much gitting gud, really.

>>55621829
>>55622328
*Clarification: Debian with non-free repos enabled

>>55622207
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling

>>55622328
>There's not much gitting gud, really.

Well there is, once you start forwarding ports and tunnelling traffic, etc. as opposed to just opening a shell.

>>55622418
That's still not very complicated, there are tutorials and man pages

Excuse me, I'm just about autistic about the 'gitting gud' expression

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>>55622446
>Excuse me, I'm just about autistic about the 'gitting gud' expression

>>55622460
But Mr. Solaire, you do appear in Undead Burg, so technically I could be saying it to your face there

>>55621866
Of course you can just get wine via apt-get or whatever package manager you like. The windows processes you want to run will need to be compiled for ARM though, that means most games wont work, however most win8 things will (see https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM for details)

>>55622107
ssh is just a protocol for controlling a remote shell. So gitting gud with it consits of installing a ssh client. The much harder part will be gitting gud with the shell running on the remote machine (bash is the most common one probably)

>>55621829
as >>55622328 said most of them but they are non free so you for example on debian you have to add non-free to your package mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list

Why do you freetards even use The Internet?
It is not free, you cannot change the protocalls, you have no access to the code/protocalls.
Are you running your own ISP? They arent using free software to connect you.

>>55622652
>2016
>not owning a direct line
>not using LibreJS
>not writing own bloat-free browser

Go back to win10 kiddo, the adults are talking.

>>55621540
snowden wasn't going to stay in russia, dumbass
also, how is the US not a police state? have you looked at the imprisonment stats?

>>55622652
My ISP use only Linux.

>>55622693
I find it hypocritical when ever someone talks about "non-free",the kind you freetards go bat shit crazy over, and ruin the thread, would allow the such a HUGE violation of their creedo.

>>55622652
Most ISPs already use Linux on their servers retard

>>55622652
the router given by your ISP probably uses linux. how does that make you feel?

I've been trying a live iso of ubuntu and feel it does what I need, but now I want to install it to learn more and I'm wondering what would be the best way to distribute the files on my computer.

I have a 64gb SSD and a 500gb HDD. I look up in google but there are as many recommendations as there are results, so I'm not exactly sure of which one is the best for me. On Windows I had the OS and programs on the SSD, and my Users folder plus all my shit on the HDD, so I'd want something similar.

Is it fine to just use the default automated install, or is there a preferred way to go with the install?

>>55622818
Mount the SSD as /

Mount the HDD as /home

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How to i fix this peeps

>>55622744
But do you know that for sure?
For EVERY aspect of it?
How do you know they arent using non free software to get things done?

>>55622797
It is a propritary version to match their non free hardware
2 violations of the Codex

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I'm using Cinnamon w/Muffin, some windows have no shadows and a few have shadows (like Calculator, Gedit, etc.) Top pic is what most windows look like when they overlap, bottom pic is what it looks like for the windows that have shadows.

Does anyone know how I enable shadows on all windows so everything always looks like the bottom pic?

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>>55622818
>If you want to get rid of Windows and only have GNU/Linux on your computer:

This is my personal way of doing it, but by no means "the right way"

During install, choose to manually partition your drive
Make these partitions:
On your SSD
-100 MB EFI System Partition (if you're on UEFI)
-100 MB /boot partition with ext2 file system
-The rest of the free space on the SSD is assigned to an LVM physical volume

On your HDD
-Literally all of the free space on a single ext4 partition, which you can mount in a directory called /data or in /media/whatever, your choice

Proceed to configure LVM

-Create a volume group based on your LVM physical volume that you chose earlier. Name it myVG or whatever
-Create three logical volumes in said volume group
-30 GB volume for / (root) (name it myRoot or whatever)
-4GB or 8GB volume for swap (depends on how much RAM you have. some people prefer to not have a swap partition at all and just make it a file, that's fine too) (name it mySwap or whatever)
-the rest of free GB goes to /home (again, myHome or whatever)

Finish configuration of LVM

-When back on the partition screen, mark your 30 GB Logical Volume as / (root) and ext4 file system
-mark your swap LV as swap
-mark your /home LV as /home and ext4 filesystem

Continue with installation
When it's done, make "Documents", "Downloads", "Pictures", "Videos", etc folders in your /data (HDD) partition and symbolic link them to your /home ones, so stuff in those gets saved to your HDD and not your SSD.

Ta-da

Oh, and if you want to encrypt your system, it just takes one extra step. Mark your free space in the SSD as crypto, not as LVM, configure LVM on LUKS, and also encrypt your HDD if you want. Done

I should make this a copypasta now that I think of it. What do you guys think? Amidoinitrite?

>>55623027
tl;dr

>>55623035
fu;fu

/flt/ I have a question: how do you avoid artefacts when resizing windows- particularly complicated gtk applications like firefox?

I've used ubuntu in a few flavours, debian and now arch and with each I've used both i3 and openbox AND have used radeon, intel and geforce GPUs, all of which have artefacts when resizing windows to some extent (particularly when enlarging a floating window). A decent compositor, like compton, helps reduce the artefacts but they're still there...

Any ideas?

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>>55622987
>>55622735
>>55622652
>>55623107

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>>55623027

What's wrong with linux-igd on debian jessie? It just crashes on launch with code -205.
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e472d6cd61f79595e4c774abc64bd9f6

>>55622987
If someone has a backdoor for access to all data across the entire internet, then so be it. I just prefer to minimize my usage of proprietary shit, even if I can't 100% get away from it all.

I don't think many are at Stallman's level of proprietary/surveillance avoidance, even if we strongly agree with his writings/actions. I mean, look at this shit: https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
>A friend once asked me to watch a video with her that she was going to display on her computer using Netflix. I declined, saying that Netflix was such an affront to freedom that I could not be party to its use under any circumstances whatsoever.

>>55623302
I whole-heartedly agree, but allow me to play devils advocate for a moment. For all intents and purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a dime-a-dozen, true virtues are a blessing in disguise. We often put our false morality on a pedastal like a bunch of prima donnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granted. So I ask of you to muster up all the strength you can because it is a dog eat dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge chip on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw in everything but the kitchen sink, and even though you are having a field day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sixth sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blind eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero tolerance when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around goes around, and when supply and demand fails, you will be the first to go. Mark my words, when you get down to brass tacks, it doesn't take rocket science to kill two birds with one stone. It's clear who wears the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through trial and error but I swear on my mother's maiden name that when you put the pedal to the metal you will pass with flying colours like it's a piece of cake.

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Is there a way to connect Quitter and Twitter through IFTTT? I want that my Twitter posts go into Quitter, not the oposite.

>>55623331
Ok? I don't think you wrote that in ~2 minutes, and I don't really care who did write it because it sounds mostly like stupid jibberish

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>>55623416

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Anyone know where I can go to fix this?

>>55623416
You modify your "morals" when they challenge your morals and you have no other option.

So you'll use a boat that has propritary GPS on it, even though you are against closed software.

So you'll make a poor man/women use propritary software when they go to give you a booking on a plane.

So you'll fly in a plane, even though it uses propritary software for everything in the cockpit.

You're just hypocrits.
And the whole world is laughing at you, and will NEVER take you seriously

>>55623447
>this
What?
There are many "this'"

>>55623447
which distribution ?

>>55623466
Sorry, the post menu arrow isn't not showing up on the far right like it normally would in a post.
I'm using Firefox on Gentoo

>>55622909
install a program that runs that rom, and open the rom from the program?

>>55623499
install Gent- oh wait

>>55623512
They are installing files. If you have already installed the programs, you can delete the .tar.gz.

>>55623455
>You modify your "morals" when they challenge your morals and you have no other option.
I don't like proprietary software because:
- it has the potential to do malicious things without my knowing
- it promotes a divisive, selfish mindset (instead of a helpful, sharing one)
- I can't modify it for my needs or the needs of others
- it inherently gives the developer/owner power over the user through their control of the software
That doesn't mean I'm a hypocrite if I decide to use proprietary software. Sometimes the convenience outweighs the concerns. I'll still promote and use FOSS as much as possible.
> propritary hypocrit
You can't even spell, moron.

>>55623027
Cool, thanks! Unfortunately I may be retarded because don't see any option for LVM anywhere, is something like this ok in its place?

SSD
efi -- 100mb
/ -- 30gb
/home -- 34gb

HDD
swap -- 8gb (same as ram, would I even need that much for normal desktop use?)
/data -- 492gb (for keeping my files using symbolic links)

From what I read, swap on the SSD may kill it rather fast. Does it help leaving it first on the HDD?

>>55620635
This is the source of the B/W to color algorithm: http://richzhang.github.io/colorization/

>>55623765
>I don't like proprietary software because:
>reasons
>That doesn't mean I'm a hypocrite if I decide to use proprietary software.

So youre morals are that low? Why even have them then?


>malicous things
So you personally source EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE that you install?
Didnt think so
>promotes
It promotes a developer friendly aspect, that i made the code, you didnt, you have no right to the code I created.
>modify my means
How many patches are you using for your current system off of mainstream, because you are reading all source code for every packaged on your system and want a different feature set.
>power
Yes, i created the program, you are not intitled to god damn thing. Make your own program if you do not like my code. Oh wait, your moarls are so low, you just install it any way

Get off your moral high ground, you're making your self look like stallman

>>55623927
If anyone here is as autistic as stallman it's clearly you.

At least Stallman did something useful with his autism.

>>55623977
>autistic
At least im not a freetard who has no rightfull morals, or even weak morals, who cant figure out what they want to belive or what they want to deny
He made one program and one license back in the 80's and has NOTHING ELSE TO HIS NAME.

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>/fglt/

shit posts, huh?
welp, see you later

>>55623977
>autistic
How about being friendly?

which brands make laptops with no OS ? All I could find is MSI.

I've got two questions:

1. How would I go about removing all the shitty games that came with my KDE installation?

2. How can I get Knotify working again? I updated a few weeks ago, and now it tells me "Error loading Applet: package inexistent. Could not find requested component: org.kde.plasma.notifications". And by coincidence, I can't access my desktop settings without using the toolbox.

>>55624034
Why not kill two birds with one stone, and remove KDE entirely?

>>55623927
>So youre morals are that low? Why even have them then?
Some are better than none. You act like I use non-free all willy-nilly, which is false. I minimize it, and maximize FOSS.
>you personally source EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE that you install?
No, but I can check the code if I want, and anyone else is free to check it as well to find malicious code and remove it, or make a FOSS fork.
>you have no right to the code I created
Agreed. But you are displaying the selfish, divisive mindset that doesn't help benefit public knowledge.
>[do you even modify any of the software that you use?]
I have submitted issues, patches, and feature requests to various FOSS projects. Even if I don't make my own modifications, I like that others can do so.
>[I made the program, I deserve power over the users.] Make your own program if you do not like my code.
More reason why I dislike non-FOSS, if there are devs who think like you. I'm an aspiring programmer, and will make FOSS alternatives, if I can.

>>55618972
I'm on Windows 10

>>55620038
The false ssl certificate.

>>55624113
Go back ot india, pajeet

>>55624135
70% of the people I saw using Linux were pajeets. You can't deny that pajeets love Linux. Not an indian myself, but it's true

>>55621220
Sudo aptitude reinstall firefox
Your problem seems to be a metapackage, so don't worry.

>>55624090
>I minimize it, and maximize FOSS.
So your morals and standards change at the drop of the hat, when ever it is convient for you?
Bravo. Hypocrite
>No,
So you dont activley check the source code your self, before you install it ? Why would you put your system in danger on the trust of someone else? Seeing as you have such knowledge about your system and what the system is doing and when it is doing it.
>patches
So again, you dont check them your self.
>alternatives
Please do. We have seen what those alternatives have done in the professional world. Oh, wait, they dont catch on, because no one wants to download something just to intereact with YOU.
>think like you
So if you made a program, millions of lines, over the past 2 years and are publishing it, on a donation based service licensed with GPLv3. Some one should be able to make a 2 line patch, and now has full access to my work?

Yeah fuck your logic cunt

>>55621370
How much trust do you put in the maintainers? why not just use checkinstall?

>>55624163
>I'm not an indian myself
You always say that, pajeet. Do you like your new Visa?

>>55624132
That's the forum not the distro retard.

I don't want any of this gnome/KDE/xfce/lxde shit, I just want to get shit done, which distro should I use? My mail client is mutt, my media player is ncmpcpp, my IDE is vim

>>55624418
Gentoo

>>55624418
Honestly, honestly. If you want to get shit done easily, use Windows. Linux has its advantages but software quality is not one of them. This is the reason I couldn't use it anymore.

>>55624418
>I don't want a DE
>I just want to get shit done
Feels conflicting.

>>55624445
t. 12 year old funny clown

>>55624445
It's not working, pajeet. I hope you get paid your rupees. Go try in other threads

>>55624173
>your morals and standards change at the drop of the hat, when ever it is convient for you?
Not gonna explain this again.
>So you dont activley check the source code your self, before you install it ?
"I can check the code if I want, and anyone else is free to check it as well to find malicious code and remove it, or make a non-malicious* fork." changed a word
>you dont check them your self.
See my above quote.
>[Linux is unused in the professional world, and a personal attack]
[citation needed]
>[some shitty example about the GPL being annoying]
This goes back to all the issues I have with proprietary. I never even mentioned the GPL, or whether or not I support its use.
> intitled moarls convient activley intereact
Also you're still a fucking moron who can't spell.

This discussion has clearly run its course. Let's please not keep adding our argumentative, long posts to this friendly help thread.

>>55624418
manjaro bspwm with openrc till you feel save enough for gentoo

>>55624464
I tried to like Linux. I did for some time but I always had trouble with the software.

>>55624457
A DE gets in the way and crashes.

So I just set up Fvwm, now what should I use so my laptop locks when it's closed?

>>55624467
Nobody here needs professional software?

>>55624473
Linus writes beautiful code. He has published some side projects that he wrote all on his own and the code is just wonderful. He also lives in the real world while still maintaining his open source ideals and supporting himself through his work.

RMS is basically a homeless loser who hasn't made any real contributions in the last 20 years. He is still super butthurt that Linux beet HURD (but hey, HURD just got basic sound support in 2016!) and basically tries to claim Linux because Linus used GCC and the GNU coreutils. He survives on the charity of others and speaking engagements where he spouts his insane, paranoid, philosophy. Basically he won't be happy until all the programmers are homeless hackers like him and all the companies are shut down. How people are supposed to support themselves and their families in that scenario aren't things he has to deal with because he is basically a permanent grad student. He does make some good points about privacy, but for him, there is no middle ground. Anything that may reduce your privacy even the slightest bit (like movie recommendations on Netflix) is evil according to him, and must be destroyed. In a lot of ways he show classic signs of mental splitting, which is a classic symptom of mental illness. To top it off, when he does write code, he does so in the style of the awful GNU style guide which is a crime against humanity IMHO.

So, in a nutshell:
He's a bird-fucking, self-absorbed, power hungry, toe jam eating pedophile that thinks everything should be free and everyone should be forced to share, who looks like he hasn't showered in years so as to create a static shield around his body to protect from aliens. He also created an OS without a kernel because he's basically Steve Jobs gone communist. Oh, and he calls himself doctor though he holds no PhD.

What do you guys think about having a flag system in this board, where flags would tell which distribution the poster is using.

>>55624483
>bspwm
Not sure m8, I might need to use xmonad for the meme points

>>55624501
Been using KDevelop and Libreoffice with no issue

>>55624512
God no

>>55624512
easily spoofed and pointless

next

>>55624512
>Windows flags everywhere

Randomly i have been having horrible performance on a few drives.
I have done maintence on all of them, but they dont seem to change anything.I jumps from ~300mb/s for about 30 seconds then it drops down to less then 10mb/s randonmly. Days it works fine, then later it swaps back to being shit

>>55624512
Not a good idea. All Arch and Ubuntu users would be laughed at. People here are cunts.

>>55624502
>>55624445
I could be wrong, but I bet these posts are made by the same person.

>>55624518
I'm a student. Nobody uses Linux in my school or my area. It's hard man, believe me. I can't trust Libreoffice, it made me a lot of problems already.

>>55624541
Even my professor uses Debian KDE

>>55624512
Absolutly horrible idea.

Implying we don't haven enough bandwagon memers.

>>55623563
Fixed it the rar was corrupted lost my saves though

>>55624533
The second quoted post is made by me. The first one is by someone else.

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>>55624527
you would just see them as "linux" with the kernel logo

>>55624549
Yeah, well, that's rare in my country.

>>55624562
>implying all users use torvald's nonfree cuck kernel

>>55624519
>>55624520
>>55624522
>>55624556
I wasn't expecting so many negative answers. Few weeks ago when someone made a thread, people in the board seemed to be okay with the idea. They even went on /qa/ to ask and discuss about this feature

>>55624562
A lot of people here spoof their user agent.

>>55624502
You don't seem like the moron I keep replying to, but I wasn't really talking about Linus or RMS and I don't give a shit what either of them are doing in relation to the discussion I was just having.

>>55624577
Well, now that you ran out of argument you can stop posting

>>55624584
>implying there are Linux users who don't use Linux

>>55624562
That would be a terrible idea. Fortunately web servers cannot (yet) demand to know what OS you are using

>>55624599
>what is linux-libre

pacman -V|base32|head -1
What the output?

>>55624595
What? How?

>>55624603
They can see a UA string, but that's self-reported and easily changed.

>>55624606
A Linux kernel

>>55624608
fuck off dumb namefag

>>55624610
You said your school doesn't use it.
I said my uni uses it.

Simple negation

>>55624299
>trusting a distro that allows that sort of nonsense

wew lad

>>55624634
What country?

>>55624626
>kokokoko

>>55624644
Australia

>>55624418
All memery aside, Arch. No extra shit included and the package manager makes setting things up super fast.

>>55624608
bump

>>55624653
You are on other continent man. I'm in Europe.

>>55624663
Good.

>>55624641
I see, you're stupid. So, for 5 year olds: Are you running a forum or are you running a distro?

>>55624671
Fuck you and your gigantic spiders, I hope you get eaten by one. Reply to this or your mother will die

>>55624690
She's dead

>>55624698
Good

>>55624541
>I'm a student. Nobody uses Linux in my school or my area.
school = university? if so, I'd gtfo of that place. seriously.

>It's hard man, believe me. I can't trust Libreoffice, it made me a lot of problems already.
just don't use libreoffice then

>>55624527
I'd gladly show that ubuntu users can have a lot of experience, too

>>55624746
>I'd gladly show that ubuntu users can have a lot of experience, too

Then do it.

>>55624746
Look. I don't know anybody who used Linux except for me. Everyone is on Windows. Libreoffice is supposed to be the best office suite on Linux, what choice do I have. I liked Linux but it is just better for me to move on, it's not worth it. I still learn some Kali when I have time.

Also no offense for Ubuntu users. Every distribution is good for learning.

>>55624656
>Arch
I'm tempted, but it being so bleeding edge worries me. I don't want to have to spend a day fixing a bad upgrade.

>>55624814
Minimal setups don't break

>>55624814
If you are on Intel, really go for it. If you are on Nvidia or AMD, take care. I had Arch on Intel and it never made me problems.

>>55624791
don't know if you noticed, but I post as "Anonymous", so you can't see my name, my distro, anything about me. but I sometimes post here.

>>55624806
>Libreoffice is supposed to be the best office suite on Linux, what choice do I have.
MS office inside a windows VM. there are some ready-made VMs here: http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/ , you could just get a pirated version of ms office and an activator for windows and use that.
LO being the best office suite on linux (not sure who says that) doesn't mean it's the best office suite, or that it's compatible with windows

>>55624832
That's a good point. If something like KDE breaks, I won't be affected.

>>55624854
I had Office in virtualbox for some time but it's a pain to use it when you are in a hurry. Also I need Photoshop, Lightroom, Sony Vegas. I make money with these, I eventually want a career. Linux alternatives are not trash, but you hardly can make good things with them. I used Dark table and Gimp for some months, it was a breath of fresh air when I moved to Photoshop. Also Kdenlive is an ant in comparison with Sony Vegas.

>>55624917
>need
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

>>55624954
Yeah, I need them because the alternatives made me waste fucking time for nothing. If you were using them you knew.

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>>55624917
We don't describe free software as an “alternative” to proprietary, because that word presumes all the “alternatives” are legitimate and each additional one makes users better off. In effect, it assumes that free software ought to coexist with software that does not respect users' freedom.

We believe that distribution as free software is the only ethical way to make software available for others to use. The other methods, nonfree software and Service as a Software Substitute subjugate their users. We do not think it is good to offer users those “alternatives” to free software.

>>55624917
>I had Office in virtualbox for some time but it's a pain to use it when you are in a hurry. Also I need Photoshop, Lightroom, Sony Vegas. I make money with these
you should have started by saying this.
yes, just don't use linux as your main OS, there is no need anyway

>>55624982
The biggest advantages of Linux I saw are the browsing speed and the security. I somewhat miss the browsing speed but it's okay.

>>55624972
When you find something usable like Photoshop or Sony Vegas, tell me. Until then, just give up.

>>55625013
You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>55625041
Yes I have. What do you mean? I'm not talking about other things that don't really make a difference for me.

>>55624588
Gentoo, gentoo, gentoo everywhere

>>55624562
GNU, not Linux!

>>55625063
Those advantages are not related to Linux.

>>55624698
Your mother or your gigantic spider?

>>55625116
No, Linux.

>>55625036
>something usable like Photoshop
How about GIMP? GIMP Is My Photoshop!

Why are there so many kids in this thread today?

>>55625136
No Linux.

>>55625125
Maybe you are right.

>>55625159
No Linux, no GNU.

>>55625146
You could tell me: why are you here today?

>>55625146
Summer.

>>55625140
I used Gimp. It's good for basic editing but if you want quality find something else.

>>55625164
Windows 10!

>>55625171
I used to like helping people.

>>55625177
I'm legitimately curious, what does Photoshop offer besides hardware acceleration that Gimp doesn't have?

>>55625177
What is "basic editing"?

>>55625182
The best :) really liking it. I'm waiting for the anniversary update

>>55625186
Me too. And be helped. But sometimes it's funny to play.

>>55625192
Usable UI, sane options, improved tools, smooth things, layer options, non-destructive editing, support for Nik Collection (Google made it free and it's one of the best things I ever used) + many other things. Gimp's development is slow as fuck. You can't use it for a job, you will lose your mind.

>>55625228
Well, I don't care then. I'm able to do all sorts of editing I need for social movements and to play with my photos. That's all I need.

>>55625192
Nothing, people are just to lazy to learn a new program. If you know python or lisp, GIMP is pure Zen with it's scripting features. For modeling blender is #1.

>>55625228
I think Gimp has had mask support for a while now.

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Just installed LxQt

What is the best search tool like xfce-whiskermenu serach or GNOME/Cinnamon search?

>>55625228
You clearly never used GIMP longer than 20 seconds.
Fuck off finally pajeet.

>>55625247
It's not bad for basic editing. It's just not good for advanced things. I'm glad it works fine for you, consider donating if you can, I did.

>>55625287
No, I used it for a month when I went full FOSS. I don't want to do that again.

>>55625292
>basic editing
>advanced editing

>>55624814
>I don't want to have to spend a day fixing a bad upgrade

If you're trying to avoid bloat then this won't happen. I've had the same Arch system running for 2 years with no bad breakages and plenty of productivity. Just don't run a system upgrade while you're in the middle of a project and you won't have anything to worry about (and even if you do you probably won't).

>>55625307
Then you must be really stupid, using a program a month but not able to find simple things like layer options. topkek

>>55625335
Try to use shadow or stroke for text.

>>55625318
When you will use a professional software, you will see.

>>55625318
He want's to tell us that he's doing serious things and we're just painting pepes.
>>55625348
Ever clicked the right mouse button after selecting something? Do it, it's cool.

$ touch -- -fr
$ rm *

>>55625292
I have some money to donate, but I'm thinking if really this cause is the best to donate for... People are skeptical when know that I woud be donating to something I benefit. They think I'm simply investing and greenwashing.

>>55625228
It's a "I took a class on photoshop in high school and I'm too lazy to learn GIMP" episode!

>>55625372
This wount work newfag.

>>55625228
>Usable UI, sane options, improved tools
Are you telling to sell me something?

>>55625382
Nobody told me how to use Photoshop. If I want to be a photographer, my boss sure will be impressed of my Gimp skills.

>>55625358
>professional software
>proprietary software

This association is a bad thing! I see professionals using Comic Sans to say serious things. For me, they use Microsoft Paint.

>>55625402
I hate this board. If you want to defend something, just defend something good

Why is /fglt/ so easy to fool?
>people still reply

>>55625421
>I hate this board
Why are you here, then?
We all know you love us!
We love you too...

>>55625420
I'm leaving. Bye. You people can't accept the truth. I hope I will block this fucking 4chan for good and forget about it, it's just a mess. I still come here because I was a Linux user.

>>55625434
you shouldn't have told them that you prefer something else, it's like dropping a bomb
if you think PS is better, then just use it, no need to explain /g/. most of them don't do graphics design anyway

>>55625455
You're right. At least you are not autist.

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>>55625434
Don't do this! Every anon is needed to make a better 4chan! Without your disagreement, this would be simply a circlejerking.
DON'T GIVE UP!!!

The only image editing software I've used in my life has been microsoft paint and imagemagick, just so you know.

>>55624490
theres a lot of ways, i would use acpid to trigger xlock or something but u can still use a power manager like xfce4-power-manager to do the same

>>55625489
If you don't need them, it's fine. Just use what works best for you.

>>55625489
I can't uninstall ImageMagick from my Ubuntu. How do I do this? I don't want this shit here!

>>55625485

4chan will be better when you will get rid of Stallman on this board.

>>55625476
I am an autist, but that's another topic.

>>55625489
I used gimp a while to do some shitty banner. it was OK, but yeah, I agree the UI should be improved. the icons are stupid, and having to wait for the tooltip to know what each icon does is stupid.
it's not like I've used it many times, too... but it's painful for me to use it, and I've been using linux for more than 10 years.

>>55625503
I don't think you can, it's a dependency. Use other distribution or live with it.

I make a living editing photographs for a magazine and almost exclusively use GIMP. Only very rarely do I need to use PS for something that GIMP can't handle.

So all of you retards sitting around making rare pepes and complaining about it not being "professional" just shut the fuck up.

>>55625540
Try to work in a studio. Editing photos for a magazine is not that hard.

>>55625526
stallman is not as autist as you may think he is. people here just get irrationally mad over anything related to microsoft, and I bet not all of these people are stallmanites(?)/ GPL lovers.

>>55625485
lol @ that gif. I love it, that's one of the best episodes of the simpsons

>>55625562
Yeah but why did he fuck that poor bird?

>>55625476
This is not being friendly. This breaks our safe space on this thread. You haven't, at least, wrote "TRIGGER WARNING:autism"! Now, I'm triggered. I'm not autist, but everyone tells me I am. I'm bullied in every space I go, except this thread. It's enough, now I need to disconnect, and go cry for some time.

>>55625556
Weren't you a student few posts back?

>>55625556
What studio do you work for, almighty anon?

>>55625562
When it comes to anything NOT related to software, he seems like a maximum autist.

>>55625493
I just got SLiM working but it doesn't prompt for login after closing my laptop, only upon boot. Is there some way to change this or am I using the wrong program?

>>55625575
Yes I am. I'm thinking about my future too.

>>55625535
>the icons are stupid
How about the pepper?

i've been trying to setup xdmcp on ubuntu 16.04 using gnome, port is listening and i can connect remotely but after login it shows black screen and shows login again

what should i do, should i stop trying, wasting my time and to try to setup a vnc server?

>>55625582
Then listen to a professional >>55625540

>>55625594
I'm very sure he is.

>>55625599
Denial won't employ you

New thread:
>>55625650
>>55625650
>>55625650
>>55625650

>>55625610
Employers are not 4chan members

>>55625713
4chan doesnt have membership

>>55625579
I don't think slim has a screenlock function but there is slimlock if you google that theres some info. I remember crunchbang used to use slim as DM and xscreensaver for screen locking back in the day. I think the advantage of slimlock tho is it borrows the visual config of your slim setup so everything looks good together. how do u like fvwm i just set it up on my laptop the other day im lovin it badabap bap ba

>>55625736
You're so wrong. Buy a pass and fuck off

>>55625740
Yeah I'm trying to compile slimlock right now.
I love Fvwm, I keep going back and forth between it and Window Maker, I can't decide which to stick with.

>>55625797
cool yeah i've never used windowmaker much but it looks neat. good luck

>>55625650

>>55619959
Both hard drives are reporting I/O errors when I am sshing remotely now.

:^(

I hope it's fine when I am at home again wtf.

>>55624833
>nvidia
>amd
8 years on arch, same hardware.
Nvidia is the ONLY driver that isnt shit
>noveau
Shit, cant change baseline clocking
>ati
kek
>amd
kek

Enjoy artifacts and tearing

>intel shill

>>55625910
>being this mad
>not even friendly