How do you justify owning a 1080p monitor in the year 2016?

>>55601872
2nd photo looks more organized than the 1st one too

>>55601872
>How do you justify owning a 1080p monitor in the year 2016?
Waiting for 5k prices to drop, don't care about 1440p and 4k
>Aren't you embarrassed?
i spent a lot of money on bullshit but by still keeping my monitor around i feel a bit frugal

They're cheap so just buy two more and bam, enjoy your ultra-ultra wide display

>>55601910
>having a black bezel line down the middle of your two displays
>"ultra-wide"

more like ultra-pleb if you ask me

>>55601872
Because nepgear is a shit

>>55601872

4k is just overpriced at the moment, and will go down in price heavily over the next 12-24 months.

>inb4 poorfag

I have plenty of money, but I am patient and frugal. I have seen people making 6 figures live paycheck to paycheck because they spend their money on the latest crap for no reason.

Still rocking a lower resolution monitor.

Works fine. Quite bitching.

>>55601872
Because most people don't need 4k monitors. I'm really glad that regular people are stupid and fell for the 4k meme, you can build a fairly decent 1080p gayman rig for almost nothing now.

>>55601872
I use a 1680x1050p monitor but could buy a 4k display at any time

umad?

File: 1447996685987.gif (2MB, 300x290px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 300x290px

>>55601962
>waiting 2 years for monitor price to drop a few hundred dollars

>>55601872
It's good enough for TV and hearthstone

When i get a VR hat I will spring for 4K

There's no point in getting anything higher than 1080p unless you have money to wipe your ass with.

I'm fine with 1080p

>>55601872
there is no monitor worth buying for me atm.

dell, overpriced no freesync
lg, looks like shit
Samnsug, looks like shit
AOC, dont trust them for some reason

>>55602096
ASUS
S
U
S

>1080p

Never had that trash, always 1200p

>>55602076
>there's no point to get (insert previous generation hardware/peripherals here) unless....
>.... Fine with (insert filthy poorfag hardware/peripherals here)
How many times will this phrase be repeated

File: 874bcb4b6af68c296c5fd335f3f000c6e12fdf191df1705df5a6a5d93587e4f5.jpg (20KB, 310x156px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 310x156px

>>55602028
absolutely fucking disgusting

>>55602101
i dont want a gaming monitor either. I d go with dell, if the p2715q costed as much as the p2415q.

buying 24 inch 4 k monitor seems utterly retarded. I dont even know why this product exists in first place.

>>55601949
You better take this back.

File: 1351390327967.jpg (37KB, 485x347px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 485x347px

>>55601872
>How do you justify owning a 1080p monitor in the year 2016?
4K is still shit for gaming as most PC games today are either indie garbage that would look the same being shown on an 80's era Zenith TV or ports so bad that they can't hit 30FPS with flagship CPU and vidya cards.

With 1080p, the hardware doesn't shit itself and you can get monitors that turn 144mhz refresh rates.

>>55601872

>liking anything about Filthadelphia ever
>okay

Pick one.

I don't have to, I use a 720p monitor.

6880x1440 master race

women are like monitors, i like them curvy

>>55601872
>not using glorious 1024p

>>55601872
They arent 1080, its 1680x1050 and cost me $50 each.

Because poorfag life.

>>55601872
The answer to OP's pic is basketball players actually exist

My main monitor is 1680x1050, it gets the job done.

>>55601872
I'm not willing to spend more money for a 1440p monitor, 1080p is more than good enough for me.

>>55602111
Think you might need to reread my post again anon

>>55602316
And people who are fans are not furiously fapping to them 24/7

>>55602559
I get it fine. People said the same thing about 720p and the trend will continue
1080p is now for poor niggers and pajeets

>>55602585
Yes they are.

File: 1345782964166.jpg (58KB, 256x320px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 256x320px

>>55601872
>mfw my monitor is 900p

File: bst06.jpg (1020KB, 2560x1702px) Image search: [Google]

1020KB, 2560x1702px

Because I'm not going to throw away those 1080p screens I've bought over the years.

>>55601872
Higher pixel density would be nice but I don't have any desire to upgrade to 1440p since it would be way more expensive for the monitors I'm looking at (120/144hz).

Besides, there's always VSR.

1280x1024 reporting in

>>55602051
Why not? It's not like anything can run 4k 240hz yet.

>>55602142
Blanc is the only good character in that series

The human eye can't see more than two million pixels.

>>55601872
>mfw 1200p
16x10 master race

>>55601872
price/value of 1080p is much better than 1440p

>>55601872
I do not have to justify the value of myself by purchasing the most expensive tech. 1080p is and will be standard for the next years.

b8, r8 3/10 m8

>>55602624

I just toggled VSR on and it looks like shit. Everything looks smudgy.

>>55602051

>BUT MOoOOoOOoOMM, I NEED IT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

This small mentality is why you'll never have nothing.

>>55602686
He'll have a good monitor.

File: 1429656659387.jpg (25KB, 599x717px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 599x717px

>>55601872
>Giving a shit about what other people think of you
>Especially when 4k is still meme tier for all intensive purposes

s.m.h t.b.h. f.a.m.

>>55602096
BenQ seems fine.

File: 1438636963205.png (6KB, 377x330px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 377x330px

>>55601872
My 27" 1080p 60hz packard bell that I bought in 2010 for 80 bucks still works fine lad

>>55601872
but i own a 1680x1050 monitor, senpai

File: 1454373260451.jpg (120KB, 575x1003px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 575x1003px

>>55601872
I still use a 1680x1050.
Being a poor Uni student is suffering.

>>55602701
Yeah, but a good monitor is not nothing, so he will never have nothing.

>>55601872
I just upgraded to 1080p last year. I'd still be using my 1440x900 monitor, which had better color reproduction, but it didn't have VESA mounts.

my 144hz, pwm free, 24in 1080p screen is big enough for me.

i also have a 27in 1440p imac and honestly, i find it to big. i wish i got the 21in instead.

really 16:10, 1920 x 1200 is the sweet spot. my old monitor was 1920 x 1200 and it was the perfect amount of space. just to bad they don't make 144hz 16:10 screens. well at the time i got my benq i couldn't find any.

>>55602726
>same price as dell
yeah, why would i bother with them then??

I don't need anything else for shitposting

I have a TV for watching media

i dont even have a 1080p monitor

i still use 1024 by 1280

still waiting for a good, 144Hz, 1440p IPS monitor

The only thing to be ashamed of in both cases is to be engaging in such blatant consumerism instead of finding contentment in spiritual things.

>>55601872
>Justify a 1080p display in 2016
Don't have to, I'm using 1280x1024 5:3. Justification is that the monitor (HP vs17e) was free, and has decent speakers built in.
>Aren't you embarrassed?
That I'm not using 1024x768 XGA? I can fix that; I've got the HP vs15 as well.

I still use some dell 1080p monitor overclocked to 75hz, increased the life of it for me, as i was going to upgrade to a higher refresh rate monitor if this wasn't possible

>>55604041
>vs15
I swear the day i was given one half of /g/ got one too because people always post about them. Good enough monitor for the occasional non remote fucking with my file server though.

>>55604090
Bought one for about $10 USD, I'm actually using it since I don't have a pair of speakers to use on my test bench. It's pretty convenient.

File: 1446786546696.png (984KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

984KB, 1920x1080px

>yfw the rabid anime hating /r/edditard got btfo

>>55601872
900p here. I'm not autistic, I don't give a fuck. I will probably upgrade to 4k when it's no longer a meme.

>>55601872
>Laptop.
>The only OS with decent scaling is Android.
There.

>>55601872
not even the GTX 1080 cand do 4K at 60fps yet

>>55604375
Intel integrated graphics can do 4k at 60fps.

>>55601947
>middle
>two displays
What? Two on both sides you sperglord

>>55604395
ATi Radeon 7500 AGP can do 4K Windows at 60FPS, so long as you're using 2000/XP and have the classic theme.

>>55604452
It actually can't. It doesn't have the proper output ports.

>>55604486
VGA displays still exist, every card I own (except the one in my PowerMac G5, and a pesky nVidia GeForce 7950GT AGP) have VGA ports. A simple adapter will do the trick, put a DVI-VGA adapter on the input of the display and plug in all the cables, then you're off!

>>55604575
It has SVideo and DVI as well anyways.

>>55604575
VGA can't output 4K shithead

I dont need anything else ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>55604605
See: >>55604584

>>55602706
what about all extensive purposes?

>>55604711
>ATI Radeon 7500
>Max External Resolution 2048 x 1536

>>55604788
>card from 2001
>AGP
>low end anyways
2K is impressive also, I guess.

I was going off of the fact that 64MB is plenty enough for 4K Windows, not the DAC type, but I do see your point.

I still have a Standard Definition monitor.

>>55601872
I use 1366 x 768

>>55601872

I can't see the pixels from my viewpoint so I don't need higher resolution unless I get a significantly bigger monitor.

I dont, i have and old 1280x1240 and still loving it

My monitor's not even 1920x1080. I'd upgrade but I'm saving up for a QSXGA monitor

>>55604934
HP vs17e, I've got an NEC MultiSync 1880SX, but it makes lots of racket while it's on, and the colors are messed up. It's done something like upwards of 700k hours, so I can't blame it.

Got both the HP and both NEC's for free, so can't complain.

File: IMG_5952 as Smart Object-1.jpg (710KB, 1000x667px) Image search: [Google]

710KB, 1000x667px

HAHA

4K

IS AMAZING

>>55604243

>thinkpad

This is the most /g/ reaction image I've ever seen

desu, I thought 4k was a meme until I watched 4k porn (and I have "only" 3440x1440)

Because I got 3 dell u2412m a few years ago and don't play games.
I might get a 4k monitor in a couple years.

>>55602096
Just ordered a Dell U2717D.

>>55601872
no such thing, retard. there are people that really use a 16:9 computer screen?

also, both rooms seem to belong to mentally defective individuals

>>55605187
>not the P4317Q

File: Untitled.png (3MB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1280x1024px

still rocking 4:3 never saw the appeal of wide screen then again maybe if i had more than 1 functioning eye i would.

people place so much value on having to dart their eyes left and right

>>55605301
It's the immersion-factor for me, it bothers me when most of my FoV is covered by a wall and not a monitor.

I need nothing more.

>>55605017
are you new, friend? every one of those pedo cartoons always has something /g/ likes either thinkpads or those outdated lisp books or whatever

I'm still using a 32" 720p LG TV from 2008.
>if it ain't broke

>>55605323
i never play first person games, last one i really enjoyed was quake III, i gave far cry 4 a shot but.. eh... big mistake. had to force myself to even hit 11 hours on steam with it before i uninstalled it. It was a very pretty game maxed out, never seen anything like it, but it felt more like an interactive movie.

File: screenshot.png (166KB, 1360x631px) Image search: [Google]

166KB, 1360x631px

>>55605007
what model, anon?

>>55605301
>people place so much value on having to dart their eyes left and right
eyes literally evolved to do that though
ever notice how your horizontal fov is bigger than your vertical fov

>>55605483
BDM4350. Gotta be lucky with the panel like I was though I've heard.

>>55605295
My video card can deal with 2560x1440, no more. Pretty comfy senpai

>>55605495
>ever notice how your horizontal fov is bigger than your vertical fov

Slightly, yeah. Not very much though. Close one eye.

>>55601901
>5K
>He doesn’t know 4K already exceeds 300 DPI

>>55605007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxSiA14OkVE

>>55605551
Yeah ? Well, 2560x1440 exceeds 500 DPI, get fucked nigger.

>>55605551
It's not about ppi at that point retard. It's about screen real estate.

>>55601872
Being a resolution fag is worst than being a refresh rate fag

>>55605729
Not knowing basic English is worse than both.

>>55601872
It's the highest resolution I can work with.

On a serious note, is there anything wrong with getting 1080p at 24 inch? I was planning to get triple monitor, but I don't want screens any larger than 23 or 24 inch, and I see most 4K screens around 27 inch which is too big and expensive for triple setup.

>>55605764
Sure, if you like squinting

>>55605764
Go for it. 1080p is still quite fine

>>55604881
This. 1366x768 master race.

File: 1413620133194.gif (898KB, 200x200px) Image search: [Google]

898KB, 200x200px

>>55602605
>mfw 1920x1200 because fuck 16:9

>>55605992
>paying double the price for 10% more pixels

>>55606036
>using an aspect ratio that's only good for watching movies made in the last decade for anything but watching movies

>>55606036
>being a poorfag

File: 1383388002407.jpg (195KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 800x600px

>>55605495
4:3 is actually pretty much the aspect ratio of what our eyes perceive.
>A 4:3 ratio mimics human eyesight visual angle of 155°h x 120°v, that is 4:3.075, almost exactly the same.

>>55601872
Some of us didn't fall for the 4k monitor meme

File: 1417661786735.gif (10KB, 297x304px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 297x304px

>>55606036
>implying I didn't get my shit while it was on sale
>implying I'm not a tax-cheater on top of that
I'm a jew btw

>>55601872
because i still don't need anything larger

> not using 32" 720p TVs to shitpost and watch animu

You're missing out

People that complain or don't see the point in 4K have bad eyesight and are genetically inferior.

>>55605007
What keyboard m8?

>>55606137
Logitech K810.

File: 13327511_1970091259803063_1602819031727694197_n.jpg (106KB, 899x595px) Image search: [Google]

106KB, 899x595px

>>55606184
Thanking you

>>55601872
Being obsessed with a sports team is healthy because it motivates you to become like the team by doing sports, being energic and /fit/. Being obsessed with anime grills just shows the world how isolated you really are because you can't be social enough to hang out with other human beings. Anime isn't real, what isn't real can be perfected, you will think your waifu is perfect and no other real females can be just like her. That's why you are frowned upon, you can't leave your little perfect world. (Sorry for bad english xD)

Because I can't go back to anything but ultrawides, and 3440x1440 ones are as expensive as fucking 4k screens.

>>55606271
>it motivates you to become like the team
I've never heard of a single obsessed sports fan who actually practices the sport they're obsessed with.

>>55601899
Have to disagree

File: I-disagree-with-you.jpg (72KB, 777x428px) Image search: [Google]

72KB, 777x428px

>>55607299
Yet you do not justify that with anything.

>>55606076
I believe the horizontal FOV of human vision is actually well over 180 degrees. Optics are weird.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_vision#Outer_boundaries

>>55601872
I don't think anyobody thinks the top one is okay either.

>>55602881
at least you've got 16:10, don't be swayed by the widescreen meme

>everypne replying to an obvious shill thread

>>55607709
It ranges, but about that, yes. We are designed to have a 360 degree range if we look behind us and 180 with our peripherals.

File: 4:3.jpg (147KB, 1240x930px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 1240x930px

>>55606076
>>55607709
That being said, I absolutely adore the 4:3 aspect ratio.

I want a 4k monitor to go with my 6700k/1080 build I'm doing soon. But I'm also considering another 27" 1440p monitor to go with the one I already have for a dual screen setup.

Anyone still rocking a T220/221?

File: 4kschnupper.jpg (897KB, 2048x1536px) Image search: [Google]

897KB, 2048x1536px

>>55601872
But I don't!

>>55607762
The best movie I have ever seen.

File: Episode 01 - 'Asteroid Blues'.webm (3MB, 1448x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1448x1080px

What exactly do I gain that is necessary or beneficial to me in some way by having a monitor larger than 1080?

Nothing.

>>55607992
More screen real estate.
Also, Cowboy Bebop was shit.

File: Yamato 01 - remaster (Central Anime) [33d6eb95].webm (3MB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 640x480px

>>55608019
You seem to have missed the point. Why do I need even more screen real estate? How is 1920x1080 not enough for the tasks that I do? 800x600 used to be a large enough resolution because no one was doing anything that required more.

Why would people not working with 4K video need a 4K monitor? Literally 99.9% of the things we see on the internet are below 4K, almost all below 1080, why the fuck would I need something even bigger?

If I need more screen space, I can just get another monitor which would be even more useful than just one higher res monitor.

>>55601998
>>55601962
>>55602153
>Acting like 1080 and 4k are the only options
2560x1600 master race

>>55605992
>paying almost twice for a single 1920x1200 instead of getting two 1080p dells with the swivel foot
what a fucking moron

i use 4k@60fps on a 48.5" screen with two 1080p portrait 23.8" on the side
get fucked, niggers, all of you

File: Trigun.webm (3MB, 720x544px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 720x544px

>>55608106
Yeah, what a fucking moron. Paying for two 1080p dells when you could get six old 800x600 4:3 monitors for half the cost.

>>55608134
and 20 times the weight and power consumption

>>55608106
Using 16:10 for a portrait monitor is much nicer.

>>55608074
Great non-argument, mate.
>Literally 99.9% of the things we see on the internet are below 4K, almost all below 1080, why the fuck would I need something even bigger?
Because surely, nobody would want to have more than one thing on screen at a time.

>>55608151
i use a dell 2007fp 1600x1200 as a portrait screen

>>55602706
Intents and purposes, you fucking plebeian

File: Dragonball Kai.webm (3MB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 960x720px

>>55608151
That's my point ding dong. What exactly am I unable to have on the screen at the same time with a single 1080p monitor? I do it all the time and it's easy as hell.

And I don't see how having a single 4K monitor would ever be better than having two 1080 monitors for the purposes of multitasking could ever be better.

>>55608198
he's obviously american

>>55608220
Hurr durr yuropoors don't have autocorrect

>>55608205
just because you don't do much doesn't mean you shouls sperg out about it

>>55608237
only retards use autocorrect or any sort of predictive text
enjoy your botnet and cpu usage while keyboarding, you moron

if only autocorrect corrected your stupidity

>>55608102
I have two 2560x1600 displays with a smaller display above each. All of them are 16:10.

>>55601872
because there´s no gpu that can drive 3 4k monitors at a cost that is not half of my organs

>>55602153
>144mhz refresh rates.
Mother of god.

File: [gg]_Hetalia_Axis_Powers_-_01_[Webcast]_[047F1273].webm (3MB, 640x368px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 640x368px

>>55608239
>How do you justify having a non 4K monitor in 2016!

I don't have any need for one, why would I?

>Muh more screen space!

I have plenty of screen space with just a single 1080p monitor, even more with my dual 1080p monitors.

>W-Well just because you don't need it doesn't mean you have to freak out about it!

I presented my excuse. I explained how your reasoning is not a solution for me. Get over it. Your argument is the same as going "Why don't you have 32GB of RAM?"

Because almost no one needs more than 8GB. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

>>55602153
some people do real work on a 4k display, you idiot
gaming isn't all there is to do on a fucking machine, believe it or not

File: 1462081385983.jpg (25KB, 448x412px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 448x412px

I use 1440x900

File: 1455596028755.jpg (8KB, 265x265px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 265x265px

Meanwhile NASA landed on the moon using nothing but mere calculators.
Linus Torvalds wrote the world's most successful kernel on a 386 and a single CRT monitor.
Ada Lovelace didn't even have a computer yet still programmed ON PAPER.

>he considers himself a serious professional programmer, no, software developer, no, software engineer, no, software architect even!
>probably one of the top 5%
>"needs" three 4k monitors AT THE VERY LEAST
>programs fizz buzz and web apps or "solutions" with NSA/Windows/Visual Studio

>mfw 21:9 when other people are still using pleb 16 based ratios
Honestly the only other ratio I want is a 1:1.

>>55608102
>bragging about 16x10

eww

>>55608333
i actually have 32GB of ram and it's at 60% usage most of the time
that's a good thing

>>55602649
>not IF
>not nep herself

wow dude...

>>55608333
>Because almost no one needs more than 8GB. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
>one pocket is all i'll ever need. there will definitely not be a situation in which i will need more than one pocket

>>55608323
A GTX 950 is like $110 after rebates.

>>55608366
Good for you. I have 16GB and I've only ever come close to hitting 80% when leaving 20+ programs open and 80+ tabs in Firefox

>>55608389
Except 1080 isn't fucking one pocket idiot. And I've already explained that in my use case, I've never needed more screen space than two 1080 monitors have provided me, and that having two medium sized 'pockets' is more useful to me than having one large 'pocket'

Strawman something else baka.

>>55608398
of course having to clarify that one should consider games

>>55608420
enjoy that storage thrashing whenever you get closer to 100%, you idiot

>>55608420
i meant ram as pockets

>>55607731
16:10 is widescreen.

>>55608438
Well the fuck would I ever get closer to 100%? I explained the absolute max scenario in my use case having one reached me to 80%

It's not going to randomly increase more.

>>55608447
Yes, and in my metaphor, 8GB is the standard that everyone needs. 4 pockets. And what you're saying to me is, "hurr durr, but what if you fill up all four of your pockets, bet you wished you sprung for five then!!"

Yeah, and if you managed to fill up all five six would be nice. You feel up 12 then 13 would be nice. However, unless you have good reason to think you'd ever even remotely come close to filling up six pockets, there's nothing wrong with having four and sure as shit no reason to have 12.

Absolutely love my 1080p 200fps... as opposed to plebk at sucksty fps

16:10 is something companies blindly waste money on, that's why they're so expensive. companies do waste lots of money

>>55607992
I just watched Cowboy Bebop on my 2560x1600 display. 16:10 is much better than 16:9 for 4:3 content.

>>55608528
Mine is a 1920x1200, just upgraded from a 1680x1050 display I've had for six years. What monitor do you use?

My 16:10 dell monitor from late 2007 works great, It looks like shit compared to new monitors but it still works. I'm waiting for a ips 1440p 144hz montior that isn't a total ripoff

>>55602633
life expectancy is around 70 years friend

>>55608548
I have two Dell 3007WFPs and a smaller screen above each. They are early business class IPS screens.

Because I like playing at 120 fps without having bloody SLI 1080s

>>55608655
I have the 2709wfp and I use one of the newest ips 27" monitors for work and the colours on the new ones are amazing. The old dell monitors are good for budget but not good by todays standards.

Currently using a 3200×1800 screen, the next monitor I buy will be 4K

I don’t play video games though.

>>55608665
I like the colors on mine, they are better than any TN panel I have seen.

The one annoying thing about them is that they only have one DL-DVI each. I have one of them connected to my GNU/Linux host and my GPU that I have passed through to a Windows 7 VM, so I had to get a DL-DVI KVM switch. I also had to get a DL-DVI to displayport adapter for one of the displays.

>>55607809
Nice

>>55608715
>Linux is good guys

Lol.

>>55608883
How does that post imply that it isn't.

>>55608895
Because Windows just works

>>55601872
neither are okay

>not having a 1080p/144hz monitor

>>55608924
So GNU/Linux is not as good as Windows because my monitor only has one port?

I don't see the logic here.

>>55602686
>This small mentality is why you'll never have nothing.
>never have nothing

Lucky him!

At least he'll get an education, unlike you.

>>55608945
Exactly. ;)

Yeah kind of. I mean it's just a waste of money for a difference you can't even notice. 1050 or even 720 is plenty enough

>>55608333
>Because almost no one needs more than 8GB. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Your OS (as far as I know, any modern OS) will use unused RAM to cache files from your filesystem, improving overall system responsiveness. So even if you don't "need" 32 gigs, you can certainly benefit from it, quite noticeably.

>>55606271
Most diehard sports fanatics are fat as hell and never actually play the sport they obsess about.

They're really no better than weebs.

>>55601872
I even have a 1366x768 monitor.
stay mad richfag.

>>55601872
@pic: Patriotism.

I've been using 1440p since last year.

Because it's 144hz with freesync. :^)

>>55601872
I'm not lacking screen real estate with my current equipment and don't give a fuck about smooth edges enough to spend hundreds on it because it serves no practical purpose.

I don't have the moneys to buy a better monitor. Saving up for a 4k one though.

>>55602135
ask a retard with a 24 inch 4k monitor anything

because I have 3 of them in surround, you can cram your ultra wide up your ass side ways.

>>55602613
Is that 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 on your main screen?

>>55601872
Fury can't run 1440p at 60 fps

>>55604881
>>55605944
You're whats wrong with this world seriously

>>55601872
I would say both are not ok kek

>>55601872
Both are fucking gay.