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Previously on: >>55581212

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>>55591362
>>55591362

Anyone have any recommendations on this?

Nethogs isn't what I'm looking for since that seems to show how much bandwidth each process uses, but I'm looking for a monitor of each connection's bandwidth, restricted to only one process.

Windows' Resource Monitor actually manages to do this, so surely there's a linux tool that can handle the job.
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>>55591804
Hello and thank you for a more SFW image.

I am curious as to how to enable html5 in a firefox browser on linux.

I googled "html 5 linux" and all I can seem to find it tricks and leet hacks to enable it.

Is it not available on linux natively yet?
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Is there a way to send a signal that shutdown sends, but not actually shut it down? Just get to the basic login but kill all services etc
I need to unmount of drives and maintence them.
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>>55591950
unmount which drives?

If it's your / drive then do maintenance from a live CD.

Otherwise shutdown just sends SIGTERM to all processes, then SIGKILL a few seconds later. If you have a system with init you could switch to runlevel 1 (
sudo init 1
I believe), but if the drive ISN'T your / drive then you shouldn't even need to go that far to unmount it.
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>>55591995
extra data drives, /home, /srv
They are slow as fuck(1mb/s) so i need to defrag(showing 50-85% fragmentation) and repair them(xfs)
I have programs and services that are run on those mount points that i use in the xsession,and i cant seem to keep them killed loging out back to getty
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while :; do xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --gamma 0.$((RANDOM%9)):0.$((RANDOM%9)):0.$((RANDOM%9)); done
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>>55592065
Just use a live CD, it's usually the easiest/safest for drive maintenance.
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>>55591995
What will happen when I kill -9 1?
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>>55592123
Nothing useful I'm sure...
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>>55592083
I'm very tempted to try this right now..
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>>55591954
Maybe a good moment to start shell scripting?
You could read out the current value and add or substact 1 to it.

On the other hand, xbacklight handles brightness much better than xrandr. You should try to get it work somehow.
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>>55592160
If you do, reset the colors after via --gamma 1:1:1.
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>>55592179
>>55592083

I did it. It was quite amusing.
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Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents

Training videos for GNU/Linux (torrents)
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Ported videogames (torrents)
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

Now we need one thread on /vg/ - Video Game Generals
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>>55592166
bup() {
xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --brightness $(echo "$(xrandr --verbose | awk '/Brightness/ { print $2; exit }')+0.1" | bc)
}

bdown() {
xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --brightness $(echo "$(xrandr --verbose | awk '/Brightness/ { print $2; exit }')-0.1" | bc)
}
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>>55592321
I'm stupid.
xrb() { 
xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --brightness $(echo "$(xrandr --verbose | awk '/Brightness/ { print $2; exit }')$1" | bc)
}

$ xrb +0.1
$ xrb -0.1
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Man, i'm still trying to use just a wm setup, and it's going terribly. I still can't use any browsers, i can't open up anything except sciTE and the terminal(xterm), and i keep getting XxXXXXX: 00000000 esque errors when i try to open something like chromium.

Using debian testing/dwm/xorg/slim setup
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>>55591931
this works for me on arch linux. i'm using iceweasel, but it should work with any firefox.
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>>55592507
forgot link
>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html5-video-everywhere/?src=ss
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>>55592367
If you don't know how to set up a window manager environment why are you using testing
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>>55591804
how do I get keyboard input in C++ while in linux <conio.h> is for windows
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>>55592663
I fell for the meme
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>>55592367
What specific error message do u get when u launch chromium from an xterm
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>>55592676
http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstdio/
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>>55592835
Check Failed: sandbox::Credentials::MoveToNewUserNS().


it's followed by a bunch of #n #0x0000xxxxx(unknown)
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>>55593054
r u running it as root? if so try as normal user. per google.
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Maybe I am retarded or something but I swear xz used to be more efficient. Has it been deprecated?
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http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/ubuntu-forums-hacked-2-million-usernames-stolen

http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/07/15/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums/
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>>55593105

Thank you so much desu
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I've added a collection of perl scripts, in a folder, to my path and PERLLIB. It finds the programs fine and they run, but it dosent find the pm with all of the configuration settings in it, that all the other script
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>>55593490
You got it boss good luck
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>>55593490
So what I did what google the error message and check the first few results. Going forward, usually you won't run in to something nobodys ever heard of, so that's a good place to start.
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>>55593537
Thank you for not just brushing me off though, I google more next time for sure
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>>55593553
Your welcome have a blessed day
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>>55593553
Try a search engine that respects your freedoms such as searx.
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>>55593618
I normally use startpage by ixquick, but this is a new computer
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Hey, I'm fairly new to GNU/Linux. Currently I am dual-booting Windows 10 and Linux Mint. What would be a good, stable distro for me to move onto once I become more experienced?
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>>55593932
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>>55592260
Do it.
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Is there an elegant way to split a container in i3 into tabbed layout?
I added this command into my config:
bindsym $mod+o split v; layout tabbed

I haven't found a single command that does this in the i3 user guide.
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>>55593932
Ubuntu
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>>55593932
As you get more experience you'll find a distro you want to use and don't have to ask.
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>>55594350
$mod+w

If you want to split the tab vertically then $mod+v afterward.

The answer seems too simple so I might have misunderstood the question.
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if i want a list of all the software installed on my computer i do
sudo dpkg --get-selections


but that list doesn't include , for example, htop, glances, etc...

that is, programs you install by typing
sudo apt-get install <package-name>



where can i get a list of the software i installed on the command line?
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>>55594435
Imagine if I had a container with two windows opened and if I wanted to create a container in place of one of those windows with a tabbed layout. If I pressed $mod+w, it would just change the layout of the parent container to tabbed. I don't want that.
See pic related.
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>>55594500
https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages
> dpkg-query -l
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>>55594672
thanks, thats seems to be

i run that command , and did

dpkg-query -l | grep "glances"


and nothing come up. but i have it installed.

what do?
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I just formatted a external HDD with ext4 (and LUKS encryption).
Now I couldn't write anything to it. So I changed the write/read permissions of the mounted (mounted it by entering the password on the GUI) to everybody as root, recursively for everything that already was on the disk.
> drwxr-xrwx 3 root root 4096 Jul 15 15:08 externalHDD
Was this the right thing to do?

When I plug it into another Linux system somewhere, will I be able to directly access it with read/write privileges now too?

And why are there missing some GB of free spaced (df -h for that external HDD):
> /dev/dm-3 917G 72M 871G 1%
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>>55594733
>as root
No. Set it as your user.
Set everything to 765

>freespace
1024 vs 1000 bit
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What is this deal with the AMD drivers and the incompatibility with all the distros that is going on right now?

I just installed Ubuntu and tried to run steam, and I have been having so many issues I just gave up.
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>>55594777
I can't change it as user. It's mounted in /media/USERNAME/externalHDD

>1024 vs 1000 bit
It's a 1TB HDD, so 917GB should be the real GiB value. I don't think df mixes up GB and GiB in the same line.
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>>55594840
sudo chown -R USERNAME /media/USERNAME/externalHDD

Also read about reserved blocks on the mkfs.ext4 and tune2fs man pages. Although it's usually set to 5% by default.
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>>55591804
how do I make battery last longer for my laptop?
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>>55594840
>cant change username
You are giving it the mount point, you can call ti what ever you want

crypsetup luksOpen /dev/sda niggerfaggot
>type in password
mount /dev/mapper/niggerfaggot /media/brad/externalHDD
>cant change it as a user
sudo chown -R brad:brad /media/brad/externalHDD
sudo chmod -R 765 /media/brad/externalHDD
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>>55594865
Thank you. And now it will also work on other Linux PCs (with other usernames) when I take the HDD somewhere else without having root there?
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>>55594725
You may have installed it in a non-standard location. What's the output of
whereis glances
?
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>>55594873
>You are giving it the mount point, you can call ti what ever you want
Yes, but usually I just plug it in and enter the password via the GUI so the it gets mounted in this folder automatically.

> sudo chmod -R 765 /media/brad/externalHDD
Did this now too in addition to the first line which
>>55594865
also suggested.
Thanks.
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>>55594867
Install TLP, what distro are you using? TLP is the best manager I've found, use it on my arch laptop. Different distros use different things I think, arch doesn't start off with one but TLP works great and is easily configurable with /etc/default/tlp file.
enable service with systemctl enable tlp
then do systemctl start tlp
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Just installed manjaro, what is a good text editor for python and C++?
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>>55594901
here you go
> whereis glances
glances: /usr/local/bin/glances
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>>55594873
>>55594865
It works on the desktop PC I made these changes now. But it doesn't work on my Notebook, still can't write anything to the HDD there.
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>>55594978
sublime text
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>>55595008
Pardon me since I'm a huge n00b, but I can't find it in terminal with pacman -Ss "Sublime text"
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>>55595024
It is in the aur, you need an aur helper to install it, or download the pacakge from aur and use makepkg
also its
sublime-text
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>>55594978
vim, emacs and list goes on...

I'm joking, the list ends there.
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>>55595044
kek
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>>55595044
Why would you want to have to memorize 50 keybinds to get BASIC functionality?
Maybe whne you had 1kb of ram and 1mb of hdd space.
Not anymore
Get out of the past granpa
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>>55594988
Yeah, /usr/local is where locally installed programs are located. If you want it to show up in the dpkg listing, it needs to be installed normally (usually through the package manager "aptitude install glances" or compiled from source "make install")
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>>55595135
thanks senpai
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>>55595111
I know learning new things is hard, anon. Some of us weren't gifted with the ability to remember more than 50 things, so I see why it's hard for you.

You can use whatever editor you like, but you have to get used to the fact I'm always going to laugh at you and your 'Get out of the past granpa' insults.
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Best email client? I've been using mutt but started wanting something with somewhat of a gui. Is Claws Mail my best option?
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>>55595184
>Thunderbird
>Evolution
>Kmall
>Geary
>TrojLtá
>Claws Mail
>Kmail
>N1
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>>55595031
I can only install sublime text 2, can't find 3
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>>55595171
>alt+n
>notepadqq launches
>i start typing
No need to have complicated reasons for no reason :^)
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>>55595309
sublime-text-dev

Search aur...
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>>55595326
As stated above I'm very new to linux and especially arch.
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>>55595312
>>alt+n
The fuck you virgins remember shit like this. Bet your a LFS NEET lol

>>i start typing
How do you remember were the keys are? I bet you memorized them you no life autist lmao.
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>>55595370
>being this mad that someone wants to use sane means to do basic tasks
I dont have to do alt+i+u+c+e just to start typing.
I dont have to alt+d+e+l to delete text.

Lfs is shit
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>>55595430
>alt+i+u+c+e
>alt+d+e+l
And now comes the made up examples.
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>>55595475
>man vi
^a-^z
^~ through ^+
^A-^Z

Sure sounds like a sane way to go about editing text.You know, as simple thing as typing and saving text, i should have to learn all these key bindings
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>>55595509
How do you edit on a command line? Do you use the arrow keys?
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Here's an off question.

I gave my 8 year old nephew a nice shiny linux system per his mother's request. Now that he has this new freedom she's asking me to put a content filter on the browser.

The only thing I'd probably filter is just porn, any suggestions on anything OSS in this field?
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>>55595738
Set hosts file
use a filtering proxy
tell mother that she dosent need to harbour her kid.As she will breed a /b/ tard.
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>>55595738
Keep the computer in the living room. Old school content filter.
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What's your favorite Window Manager /g/?

I recently made the jump to Awesome from Gnome 3. It was confusing at first because I was spoiled by the ease of Gnome's menus, but after getting used to keybinds, Awesome is feeling pretty comfy.
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>>55595858
fluxbox
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>>55595858
awesome
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>>55595858
see
>>55595111
>>55595430
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Just wanted to say that Ganoo slush Linucks is some of the best and yet most autistic shit I've ever used

>start with fedora
>go to debian
>go back to fedora because I discovered RPM Fusion and easylife
>Lol easylife can't install your amd fglrx because we're just going to voluntarily stop supporting the drivers XD
>but you can install nouveau, even though Nvidia actively opposes foss/open source
>go to Ubuntu
>it actually just werks

But wait, there's more!
>try to install steam
It would make too much sense to include the libgl1 and i386 dependencies needed to run steam with the steam package, why would you want that?

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE DEPENDENCIES NEEDED TO RUN A CERTAIN SOFTWARE, WHO WOULD DO THAT???
>linux
>you can run Memerim on it easily
>but you can't run VisualBoyAdvance

what the fugg
lastly, for my personal blog ending - fuck AMD for stopping supporting their good drivers I realize radeon open source will be good in the long run but its a pain in the ass now, fuck steam for not including dependencies, fuck nvidia for being the best for linux and yet the worst, fuck stallman adherents for having an actual phobia to non-free software compatibility and codecs, and lastly fuck canonical even though they made the best distro for normal human beings that don't have severe level autism
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>>55596089
forgot to mention the most important honorable mention - fuck microsoft for finally making their OS unusable to the point of no return
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>>55596089
Here's Debian testing with nvidia proprietary drivers and about 1/4 of my steam library. I'd like to setup a KVM, but my CPU doesn't have the good stuff.
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>>55596163
I'm jelly, I wish I would have known about the whole AMD thing before I bought this card for my PC, I had no idea.

I don't understand the Lincucks OS, I was able to install steam and run TF2 on both Debian and Fedora, yet I can't on Ubotnet
I want to go away
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Why is openwrt so shit on my router? Why am I such a retard?
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>>55596189
>yet I can't on Ubotnet
It's time to leave it.
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>>55596089
>autistic
Define autistic.
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>>55596089
just install korora if you're dumb
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>>55596221
>define autistic
Smarter than me

Didn't you watch that video bloomberg did with Linus, he said "maybe I'm autistic or something" it was a 10/10 quote
my bullshit aside, I have met many autistic people who are retards with some things and yet outright brilliant on whatever it is their attention has been fixated on

So /g/ is full of autistic gnu/linux pedos

>>55596225
gonna look it up right now, thanks

>>55596210
I'm hesitant to use other distros but I've been assblasted with ubongos for a long time
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BEHOLD!
The distro were winfags will feel at home, Linux Lite.

Here they can do what they know best, pushing buttons!
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Invariably as soon as I ask, I will figure this question out for myself, so I'm going to ask --

On one of my Debian machines (Openbox), MOC "scales" to fit the terminal window (terminator) when I stretch it. On the other it doesn't. I can't figure out why and I don't even know what search terms to use to try and figure it out myself.

I will post the solution if I figure it out in the meantime but am asking for suggestions.
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>>55596225
>>55596262
Both Korora and Linux Lite sound like good out-of-the-box and "it just werks" distros.
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>>55596321
You seem to be using a terminal with poor support for ncurses.

Of course, it could be that your other terminal is xterm and somehow you added something weird to your .Xresources, but that seems highly unlikely.
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>>55596341
Both are Terminator, but one is whatever version Debian Stable is using, the other is Testing+Updates (which is the one that works oddly). To be honest I'm not sure how to check versioning.

I don't think it's an ncurses-application-specific problem since alsamixer, for instance, "scales" fine on both systems (thanks for the suggestion to check).

Maybe it's actually MOC but I don't understand why.
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>>55596421
>which is the one that works oddly
I said that wrong. I meant the Debian Testing+Updates machine is the one that exhibits the strange non-scaling behavior.
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>>55596262
Looks nothing like windows though.
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>>55596486
Is all that I recall from Windows though, buttons for everything.
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I fucked up somehow and now the color of the box my pointer makes when I click and drag on the desktop is white, and selected icons turn black. Does anyone know where I should go to fix this? I'm not sure what went wrong because I've uninstalled the theme/.css I've been editing the most. This is on Linux Mint Cinnamon.
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>>55596517
How the fuck else do you select things?
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>>55596533
lol get with the times grandpa
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>>55596533
In Windows, you don't really have many choices to select things.
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>>55596533
Wait, are you coming from Windows? So you know nothing about the command line, and how you can tweak every detail by editing config files?
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Need some help with SSH and key authentication on ubuntu. I created a new user and added to sudo group. I did all the key shenaningans and it works perfectly. However, if i add the line "PasswordAuthentication no" to sshd_config, it no longer works. All i get is "Permission denied (publickey)". The password is correct because if i type the wrong one, it prompts me to type it again. Also i have the exact same setup on another server which works.

So why does that line alone cause permission denied? So confusing....
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>>55596421
running xterm instead of terminator gives me the same behavior in the "bad" system as terminator, for what that's worth

dist-upgrade did nothing, but I'm not surprised since none of the packages seemed to have anything to do with moc or ncurses or terminator

I ran Synaptic to look at the versioning (there's probably an easy CL option I just don't know it) and the MOC version IS different between the two -- 1:2.5.0-1 vs 1:2.6.0-svn-r2848-1
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>>55595111
>i can't learn things
>let me spend 3 seconds moving the mouse to a different part of the file
>spending 0.1 seconds pressing two or three keys to get to that part of the file is for grandpas
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>>55596825
>Spend countless minutes on 4chan arguing about trivial, micro time-savers
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>>55596923
>do everything dozens of times as quickly
>trivial

Have fun with gedit, nobody is stopping you.
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>>55596923
If you used a real editor it wouldn't take you "countless minutes" to type three lines of text.
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>>55596632
You sound like a first class moron.
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Has anyone here installed the PCSX2 playstation 2 emulator on Debian or any other non-Ubuntu distro?

I was just curious how you went about it, if you have.
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>>55597151
I've been playing PCSX2 nonstop for the past few weeks.

>Arch Linux
>install pcsx2 from repo
>mostly works flawlessly
>occasionally encounter weird bugs in certain games
>switch to pcsx2-git from AUR for the rest of that game

For Debian I imagine you can just clone the git repo and follow the usual build instructions if there's no package for it.
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>>55597151
Debian here, It's on the repos:
$ apt policy pcsx2
pcsx2:i386:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 1.4.0+dfsg-2
Version table:
1.4.0+dfsg-2 500
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main i386 Packages

It's not up to date however. I guess you would go and build it from their git repo.
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>>55597205
There are plenty of packages needed for it as well:
$ sudo apt install pcsx2
[sudo] password for anon:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
glib-networking:i386 libaio1:i386 libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 libatk1.0-0:i386 libatspi2.0-0:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386 libavahi-common3:i386 libcairo-gobject2:i386
libcolord2:i386 libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 libdatrie1:i386 libegl1-mesa:i386 libepoxy0:i386 libgbm1:i386 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libgraphite2-3:i386
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>>55597225
The best course of action would probably be:

>install from repo so dependencies are installed
>uninstall but leave dependencies
>build from git

If it still doesn't work then you might need to manually update any dependencies that are too far behind, but at least it should tell you which ones are problematic.
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>>55597185
>>55597205
>>55597225
>>55597250
Alright, thanks guys. I'm headed to bed now but I'll try it in the morning

I'm on Debian Testing so the repo version is probably not going to be too far behind, but we'll see how it goes

Pretty hyped because I just set up my Dualshock 4 with ds4drv and it works great
>>
Can anyone help me get eth0 working on gentoo? I have a realtek rtl8101 ethernet controller. I installed the driver tarball from realteks website and lspci -k shows the module under my nic. Modprobe loads the module, but /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start gives an error of eth0 does not exist.
In my arch install lsmod gives the mii.o module as being for eth0, but I cant find any media independent interface options in /usr/src/linux/.config except for specific phy modules. I dont know where to go from here.
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>>55592367
Upgrade to sid and install firefox aurora. Remove everything about your browser from config.h and recompile dwm.
>>
Can someone please post the output of this command? Glxinfo does not work for me.

ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo


My output:
root@user1:/usr/bin# glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig

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>>55597833
..aaaaaand this also happens
root@user1:/usr/bin# screenfetch && inxi
Failed to init libxfconf: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken..
Failed to init libxfconf: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken..
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$$P d$' , $$P Resolution: 1024x768
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Y$$. `.`"Y$$$$P"' GTK Theme: Not Found [GTK2], Not Found [GTK3]
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`Y$$. CPU: Intel Pentium CPU G4400 @ 3.3GHz
`$$b. RAM: 1821MB / 7801MB
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CPU~Dual core Intel Pentium G4400 (-MCP-) clocked at 799 Mhz Kernel~4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 x86_64 Up~2:03 Mem~1824.4/7801.4MB HDD~1000.2GB(24.2% used) Procs~163 Client~Shell inxi~2.1.28
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>>55597861
root@user1:/usr/bin# ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffcbffde000)
libGLEW.so.1.10 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLEW.so.1.10 (0x00007f8b5a433000)
libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLU.so.1 (0x00007f8b5a1c5000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x00007f8b59f39000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f8b59c38000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007f8b598f5000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007f8b596e2000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f8b59337000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXmu.so.6 (0x00007f8b5911e000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXi.so.6 (0x00007f8b58f0d000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f8b58c02000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f8b589ec000)
libexpat.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007f8b587c2000)
libxcb-dri3.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0 (0x00007f8b585bf000)
libxcb-present.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-present.so.0 (0x00007f8b583bc000)
libxcb-sync.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-sync.so.1 (0x00007f8b581b4000)
libxshmfence.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxshmfence.so.1 (0x00007f8b57fb2000)
libglapi.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglapi.so.0 (0x00007f8b57d49000)
libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007f8b57b45000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007f8b5793f000)
libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0x00007f8b5773d000)
libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-glx.so.0 (0x00007f8b57523000)
libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri2.so.0 (0x00007f8b5731e000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f8b570fc000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x00007f8b56ef5000)

cont.
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>>55597887
    libdrm.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2 (0x00007f8b56ce7000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f8b56aca000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f8b568c5000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000056014bd26000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXt.so.6 (0x00007f8b5665c000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007f8b56457000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007f8b56252000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSM.so.6 (0x00007f8b5604a000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libICE.so.6 (0x00007f8b55e2c000)
libuuid.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007f8b55c27000)


root@user1:/usr/bin# glxgears
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual


Compton works.
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>>55596672
nvm solved it ;=)
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>>55596262

>ubuntu with new icons and a sketchy, non-free software utility

>Package name: lite-info

>We do not use the GPL on Lite Info. Lite Info is offered as a binary to protect how the software talks to our web server. Revealing this method would put a good portion of the project in jeopardy.
https://www.linuxliteos.com/development.html#oursoftware

Ha ha, no.
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>>55597518

Are you sure it's named eth0? Are you using predictable network device names? Doing "ip link" would spare you a lot of trouble.
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>>55595858
xmonad is bretty cool
>>
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Where did the "Fonts" tab in Firefox go? How do I see which fonts a website is using now? this is version 47.
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>>55598249
>tfw literally botnet
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>>55593459
>ubuntu forums
and nothing of value was lost
>>
>>55593932
one that is not "based on"
>>
Hey guys,

I'm having a problem with a ClearOS install. I've tried it out on one machine with the same hardware excepting the motherboard and onboard NIC.

I can't get the NIC on the mobo I actually want to use for my server to work during the initialisation process.

The NIC is intel ethernet i217-v (rev 4).

It shows up if I ask terminal to print my hardware tagged with ethernet but otherwise shows as not connected.

Any ideas?
>>
Anyone have experience with Iodine?

got the thing working, but stuck in creating an ssh tunnel.

using identity files only, so not sure what arguments to pass with the virutal interface iodine makes
>>
>>55597833
;_; pls help
>>
>>55599346
(numbers redacted)
» linux-vdso.so.1 =>··
» libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1·
» libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6·
» libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6·
» libexpat.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1·
» libglapi.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0·
» libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6·
» libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1·
» libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3·
» libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11-xcb.so.1·
» libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-glx.so.0·
» libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri2.so.0·
» libxcb-dri3.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0·
» libxcb-present.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-present.so.0·
» libxcb-sync.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-sync.so.1·
» libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1·
» libxshmfence.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxshmfence.so.1·
» libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXxf86vm.so.1·
» libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2·
» libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6·
» libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0·
» libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2·
» /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2·
» libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6·
» libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6·
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>>55597833
>ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo
brain@cancer:~$ ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo
ldd: /usr/bin/glxinfo: No such file or directory
brain@cancer:~$
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>>55599492
that's it?

>>55599503
try executing
cd /

before ldd
>>
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>>55595008
nonfree pig disgusting
>>
how to recalibrate the wacom screen of my x220t with xubuntu
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>>55599515
brain@cancer:~$ ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffe21797000)
libGLEW.so.1.10 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLEW.so.1.10 (0x00007ff403174000)
libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLU.so.1 (0x00007ff402f06000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 (0x00007ff402d09000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007ff402a08000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007ff4026c5000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007ff4024b3000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007ff402108000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXmu.so.6 (0x00007ff401eef000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXi.so.6 (0x00007ff401cdf000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007ff4019d4000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007ff4017be000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007ff4015a1000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007ff40137f000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007ff40117b000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007ff403400000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXt.so.6 (0x00007ff400f12000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007ff400d0e000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007ff400b09000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSM.so.6 (0x00007ff400901000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libICE.so.6 (0x00007ff4006e4000)
libuuid.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007ff4004df000)
brain@cancer:~$
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>>55599819
thanks!
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>>55599515
Anyway, I think you're probably missing some video driver packages. And that the xfconf thing is separate issue. Did you install from netinstall and build up from there without selecting a desktop in tasksel? Probably missing packages. Maybe use tasksel to install whole debian DE and remove what you don't need instead of starting with very little and building up from there when ur not sure what you do need.
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>>55599923
I'm kind of new to linux, and I just brought my new PC. I installed debian jessie with XFCE on it thought the live usb, and initially sound and graphics werem't working. I couldn't watch videos except HTML5 in the browser. So I added jessie-backports to my sources.list and that automatically upgraded my kernel to 4.6 and solved most issues except this. i'm not entirely sure my PC and internal graphics are supported yet (Pentium G4400) so I'm holding back on the reinstall.
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>>55599989
okay.
what is output of
lspci

?
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>>55600051
Also, when you were using the live cd, in the live environment, did the sound and graphics work then? Or did you go straight to installation? If you did go straight to installation, can you boot up the live environment and check?
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>>55600065
>Also, when you were using the live cd, in the live environment, did the sound and graphics work then?

No, they did not and still does not. I just checked.

Also, if it's a clue, when I boot my system, the initial lines of code with those [ OK } indicators in green runs at a lower resolution.

root@user1:/home/use1# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 190f (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 1902 (rev 06)
00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 1911
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Device a12f (rev 31)
00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device a131 (rev 31)
00:15.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device a160 (rev 31)
00:15.1 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device a161 (rev 31)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device a13a (rev 31)
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Device a102 (rev 31)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device a114 (rev f1)
00:1e.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device a127 (rev 31)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device a148 (rev 31)
00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Device a121 (rev 31)
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device a170 (rev 31)
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Device a123 (rev 31)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)
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>>55600091
And this too

root@user1:/home/us1#  lshw -C display
*-display UNCLAIMED
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Intel Corporation
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 06
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
resources: memory:de000000-deffffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:f000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff


root@user1:/home/us1# lspci -vmk | grep -A 8 -B 2 VGA && lspci | grep VGA && glxinfo | grep -w 'direct\|OpenGL'

Device: 00:02.0
Class: VGA compatible controller
Vendor: Intel Corporation
Device: Device 1902
SVendor: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI]
SDevice: Device 7982
Rev: 06

Device: 00:08.0
Class: System peripheral
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 1902 (rev 06)
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
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>>55600000
>>55599999
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>>55600386
Have you upgraded your video driver from backports?
apt-get install -t jessie-backports xserver-xorg-video-intel
>>
Video acceleration isn't working, what am I doing wrong?
>>
>>55600573
yes. This is what aptitude shows:
i   A   xserver-xorg-video-fbdev     1:0.4.4-1+b2   1:0.4.4-1+b2
i xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917+git 2:2.99.917+git

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>>55600664
Looks like you don't have the driver it is looking for.
>>
Every time I turn on kate I get a minute or so later that kactivitymanagerd has stopped working. And then everything continues smoothly, no bugs, no errors, nothing, just that one criptic message and that's all.

Should I be worried? I wasn't like that some time ago. I'm using xubuntu 15.06.
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>>55600708
firmware-nonfree from backports? contains some skylake stuff
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>>55600737
How do I install it?
>>
>>55592366
>>55592321
>2016
>xorg
>>
>>55600950
Install Wayland
Use QuickSync Intel, it's faster than CUDA.
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>>55601055
>implying wayland is usable
>>
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2016/07/msg00028.html
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>>55601270
I'm okay with this.
>>
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>>55601070
>implying xorg is usable
>>
Do I have to do something weird to get Vim to support unicode characters? I'm running it out of urxvt, I assumed that'd be all that needs to be done. If I put unicode into urxvt it shows up fine, but when I go into vim and put the same character it shows up as a box.
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>>55601070
vaapi, install intel video-driver.
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>>55601270
Yeah why not.
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>>55601334
Fuck off with your wayland crap.
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>>55601399
I'm not about wayland, you can encode video with cuda or with intel quicksync, quicksync faster, so you need intel driver and add use flag vaapi if you use gentoo.
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>>55601423
dumb namefag
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>>55601055
Found some ppa, installed a package, it works now.
Otherwise watching videos kills battery life on the laptop
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>>55601399
>>55601447
Fuck off
>>
New to linux
Im currently using ubuntu 16.04
does anyone have a list of good software to install and tips on customizing
Also a mini player for my desktop
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>>55601570
Install softwares as you go anon
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>>55601570
sudo apt-get install *
>>
How likely is Debian unstable blowing up in my face really?

Used it for about half a year without any major problems. Some minor annoyances yeah, but nothing outright breaking my shit.

Seems plenty "stable" to me.
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>>55600838
So I installed these three
 aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree intel-microcode


I'm still getting the same errors.
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>>55601570
audacious supports winamp skins, check it out

>>55601724
I accidentally tried to reinstall them and got this error (I didn't reinstall them, I cancelled it). Why is this a virtual package?
root@user1:/home/use1#  aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree intel-microcode
The following NEW packages will be installed:
firmware-misc-nonfree{b}
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/2,057 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,639 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
firmware-misc-nonfree : Breaks: firmware-linux-nonfree (< 20151018-1~) but 0.43 is installed.
Breaks: firmware-linux-nonfree:i386 (< 20151018-1~) which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
1) firmware-linux-nonfree


Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.
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>>55601724
>
nonfree
>>
>>55601741
Also, that's an old version, the backports show that the latest version is
firmware-misc-nonfree (20160110-1)
firmware-linux-nonfree (20160110-1)
intel-microcode (3.20160607.2)


>>55601745
It's free.
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>>55601757
>It's free.
>>
>>55601778
> ">"
>>
>>55601806
>"> ">""
>>
>>55601857
>"> "> ">"""
>>
>>55601868
>">"> "> ">""""
>>
>>55601876
>">"> "> "> ">"""""
>>
>>55601907
>">">"> "> "> ">""""""
>>
>>55601922
int i,j;
for(i=0;j>=0;i++) cout<<">\"";
for(i=0;j>=0;i++) cout<<"\"";

>>
>>55601967
I guess that settles it.
Let's just hope we didn't derail this thread.
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>>55602033
>I guess that settles it.
>>
>>55601948
>2016
>cout
>>
>Palemoon doesn't support Media Source Extensions, so I have to watch Youtube vids in 360p
Should I just go with Opera? Or could anyone rec a better browser for Gentoo
>>
>>55601270
I'm a little sick. Fucking pussies.
>>
>>55602210
install gentoo
>>
>>55602210
epiphany, midori.
firefox and chromium still doesn't have wayland-backend, so it's deprecated.
>>
>>55601070
>implying it's not
gnome 3.20 is good, kde is still buggy though.
>>
>>55602346
Gentoo [musl || uclibc] GNU/LInux
*fix*
>>
>>55602351
englitenment very good, also there is weston, orbment, velox, sway, motorcar etc.
>>
>>55601570
>mini player on desktop, give more info on that, so far cmus would work.
sudo aptitude (or apt but only use one of them) install <program name>
to find out the name type aptitude (or apt again) search <thing>
>>
>>55602364
>not using the holy gclib
What is wrong with you
>>
>>55602375
is there a wayland dwm yet that is compatible with normal config.h?
>>
>>55602412
uclibc and musl 2X smaller and faster.
>>
>>55602447
man weston.ini
if you mean weston, if something else read another man.
>>
>>55594500
>but that list doesn't include , for example, htop, glances, etc...

It does.

dpkg --get-selections | grep htop
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>>55602477
>2016
>debian for amd64 PC
>>
If I want to run a script with some commands with low priority, should I assign the priority to the script or the individual commands?
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Tear down xorg!
Tear down xorg!
Tear down XORG!
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>>55602583
To the script, do it in the script directly.
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>>55602386
just like a small music player kind of like mini player for music bee
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>>55602586
>tear down xorg
Are you serious? You know what that would mean right?
I am all for wayland but without xorg we would be majorly fucked.
>>
Is there any easy way to rename a list of files in a folder to the names given in a second list. Assume both are the same length and the first is in order. Very painful to rename 100s of files by hand when I know what I want them to be already, be much easier to just feed it the list.
>>
Is it possible to run OneNote on debian; If not, can anyone recommend me a replacement?
>>
>>55594811
>>55594811
Works for me desu.

Is your card brand new? Brand new cards never work.
>>
>>55602955
tell us what OneNote does and we might be able to help
>>
Installing Arch on my Raspberry Pi. I intend to have a touchscreen with this. Which desktop environment should I use that is optimized for touch?
>>
>>55602586
>>55602611
fuck off
>>
>>55603049
Gnome-core but that is heavy
>>
Have you guys been successful in converting your family and friends to using GNU/Linux yet?

My inner family's been using it for a while now happily, and I've made some advances with friends. I think it helps that people really hate Windows 10, heh.
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I need to write a command to copy all log files to a directory except files that start with a. How do I do this? I know how to exclude with grep and how to find and -exec but how do I find grep and .exec a cp all in a command? Is there a way to exclude with find? I thought instead or -o for multiple criteria I could use something else for a negative criteria but the man page on this is hard to sift through or its not there.
>>
>>55603566
>Have you guys been successful in converting your family and friends to using GNU/Linux yet?

Why would I want to, first of they'd blame all problems they'd encounter on me, second off it would only help plebifiying linux, making it cater to the lowest common denominator
>>
>>55603604
You're an Arch user, aren't you?
>>
>>55603596

well I am stupid is it as simple as something like....


find ~ -name "*.log" -o ! -name "a*.log" -exec cp {} ~/files/. \;

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>>55601270

Bikeshedding as fuck.
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>>55603604
>community-driven project
>plebified by boosting its userbase and even potentially its developer numbers

This ain't like your favorite band getting popular and selling out, hipster-anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2efSysPvy8
>>
>>55601270

Im half ok with it. its not horrible but Chair is less descriptive. Chairperson would almost be better. My experience with shits has taught me to flinch away from it though.
>>
>>55601270
This is fine. Are you upset or something, anon-kun?
>>
>>55603641
It is starting to cater to the lowest common denominator, though. Who cares how many developers it has. Microsoft has all of India, amirite?
>>
>>55603697
Dude, if that means more beginner-friendly distros are gonna crop up, that's absolutely fine by me. Why are you so scared? You're always gonna have your $CHOSEN_DISTRO and $CHOSEN_WORKFLOW_PROGRAMS and $CHOSEN_CONFIGS the way you want them, this is not going to bother you. More options for more people isn't a bad thing. Get outta your bubble for once
>>
>>55603641
look

linux runs the world, don't expect it to become user facing but eventually all OS will be opensource

this is guy is just retarded
>>
How do I write a command that uses the current user within it? I want to move all files found with a find to a folder named after the current user. But I wont know the user until the command is run.
>>
>>55603782
whoami -  print effective userid

mv foo /bar/$(whoami)/
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>>55603782
id -u -n

>>55603641
It kinda is, I'm one of the few people who want linux to be UNIX like instead of windows like.
>>
>>55603857
And I'm sure there will always be distros that cater more to your needs and use-case, anon.

Like I said above, what's wrong with there being more distros and more software to choose from?
>>
>>55603853

$(whoami) is great thanks.
>>
>>55603869
see https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4gnz7i/lets_talk_about_the_gentle_push/
>>
>>55603875
you could jusr use $USER as well
>>
>>55603875
>>55603906
$ time whoami
hackerman

real 0m0.021s
user 0m0.004s
sys 0m0.000s
$ time echo $USER
hackerman

real 0m0.000s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s
>>
>>55603949
>real 0m0.021s

wew lad


That said using $USER (and in general using shell built-ins) is always the correct choice over external commands when scripting.
>>
>>55603994
>what is portability
>>
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Can someone explain to me like I'm 10 what's up with Debian's mailing lists?

Which are worth subscribing to as a Testing and Sid user? For general news and also bug notices and whatnot.

Is it recommended to use a different email account from your personal one? (Is the email load high?)f

Thank you
>>
>>55604023
If you're writing python, will you complain the code isn't going to work with a perl interpreter?

If you're writing bash then don't expect it to work with fish. If you really want to be careful then make it all POSIX sh compliant.
>>
This is gonna sound very dumb but why can't I paste some text I copy from Firefox straight into neovim using a command or whatever?

p didn't work
>>
>>55604184
Compiled with clipboard?
try SHIFT+INS
>>
>>55604215
Didn't compile it myself so don't know but that worked, thanks.
>>
Guys I'm confused about something

I'm installing pcsx2 from the Debian Testing repos, and I come across this aptitude dependency error

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
notification-daemon : Conflicts: notification-daemon:i386 but 3.20.0-1 is to be installed.
notification-daemon:i386 : Conflicts: notification-daemon but 3.20.0-1 is installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
1) notification-daemon


Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]


Why can't I have both the amd64 and i386 versions installed?
>>
>>55598266
Ip link doesnt show it. I'm not using predictable naming. I checked dmesg and found a line that said:
r8101 0000:03:00:2 region #1 not a MMIO resource, aborting
Google yields nothing useful about what this means, but it seems to be aborting my ethernet driver for some reason.
>>
Dumb question but how do people actually install an operating system on a purely headless server?

The concept has blown my mind for too long now
>>
>>55604550
Either they plug a monitor in for installation, or the headless server is a VM and they can use VNC or the virtualization manager's console to see what they're doing.

Then once it's installed just ssh for days.
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>>55604298
So after doing some reading I see you just can't have cross-compilation support enabling multiarch.

So would it be safe for me to remove the amd64 version and use the i386 version? Or should I just deny pcsx2 from installing that notification package and keep my amd64 version?

pls advice
>>
I'm looking for a distro to use for my Lenovo laptop from 2014. What should I be looking at?
>>
>>55604779
ubuntu
anyone who says otherwise is a faggot with way much too time to fuck around fixing all the problems the distro maintainers couldn't be bothered to
>>
>>55604779
literally anything will work
>>
>>55604879
There's a lot distros, and that doesn't narrow the list down any.
>>
>>55604779
>>55604797
fedora because it works better than ubuntu.
>>
When will GNU/Linux overtake Windows on the desktop? Realistically, I think it'll only happen if Google decides to make their own distro, but what do you think?
>>
>>55604779
Debian is nice. Once installed upgrade it to Testing or Sid.
>>
>>55605040
>What is ChromeOS

And the answer to your question is never. Windows is too entrenched.
Sure, GNU/Linux will gain traction, but you'd be surprised by the sheer power of inertia. Windows has more than enough of that to last centuries now
>>
>>55604980
prove it
>>
How can I convince my brother that downloading music through youtube-dl of each song he wants off of YouTube is extremely inefficient compared to just grabbing whole albums from torrents or whatnot?

I mean, goddamn. At this point I think he does it to just to piss me off
>>
>>55604980
Fedora is objectively worse than Ubuntu in all aspects
>>
>>55605182
"BUT TORENTTS ARE ILEGAL HRURR"
>>
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>>55605206
It's not even that. It's just laziness to search for them.

This is seriously rustling me and I know it shouldn't because it doesn't affect me, but god damn.

Update: apparently he doesn't even use the youtube-dl script I set up for him, he's using those online converter websites.
>>
>>55605040
>Realistically, I think it'll only happen if Google decides to make their own distro, but what do you think?
no. Google have no point on being involved with linux. They would help for free linux desktop and would have to compete with them in the end. They will only make chrome OS and will keep it closed as much as possible, like they are doing with android.

>When will GNU/Linux overtake Windows on the desktop? Realistically.
Realistically ? probably never. I don't think linux will have a bigger market share before years. And then we can't know how the desktop will evolve.
What we might see is linux becoming bigger like ~10% of the market share, I think it can go till 25% but more is an utopia.
in 2016 we're seeing a lot of changes, in 2017 I think most technologies will be in a final stage (vulkan games will start to appear, drivers catch up the windows drivers for the recent GPUs, wayland will be widely adopted, steam OS beta will be over and officially released...).
in 2018 we should have between 5 - 10% market share and in 2020 we can reach 15% for the best scenario possible. For the worse, we should be at 5% in 2020.

For me the few things that can help the linux destkop is :
>government start to use it everywhere instead of windows
>schools use linux instead of windows (elementary school, middle school and high school, then dual boot on universities)
>valve finally decide to make their own hardware and sell a good steam machine (with exclusive titles)
>A manufacturer finally make desktops / laptops with linux installed and advertise it
>>
>>55605256
>Update: apparently he doesn't even use the youtube-dl script I set up for him, he's using those online converter websites.

Just wipe his boot sector while he sleeps; feign ignorance.
>>
>>55605256
>apparently he doesn't even use the youtube-dl script I set up for him, he's using those online converter websites.
it didn't rustle the fist time you said it, now it does. hake him learn to use i3 before he can do anything on his computer again. the next day install another obscure keyboard driven WM, then remove X. he can go back to normal once he did a stage 3 gentoo install.
>>
>>55605256
>>55605328
>>55605312
just curious, what's so wrong about using online converter websites? are you just horrified by the inefficiency or are they full of malware or what? and i mean if he's running linux he should be safe from the latter right?
>>
>>55605378
it's his sheer stupidity that annoys me, if someone even set up a youtube-dl script (prolly just an alias for --extract-audio --audio-format or open with i guess) this would make way more sense than those sites.
>>
>>55605378
Both and not necessarily.
>>
>>55605482
I may be able to use this to convince him.

What are some possible attack vectors they could have on him? I've never seen anything about infected mp3's, but yeah.

I mean if it goes from annoyance to security risk then it's unacceptable
>>
>>55593932
>>55594364
This or fedora, but probably try ubuntu first because that is what mint is based off of.
>>
>>55593932
Debian (upgrade to Testing or Sid after installing)
>>
can some one help me out im very new
>>
>>55606058
Post your sources.list.
>>
>>55606058
don't apt-get need sudo ?
>>
>>55606067
how do i post the whole thing its really bug
>>55606074
doest matter if i use sudo says the samething
>>
>>55606105
big*
>>
>>55606105
Pastebin.
>>
>>55606124
http://pastebin.com/m0mrENGH
by the way theres 2 sources.list and sources.list save whats the difference
>>
>>55606155
>http://pastebin.com/m0mrENGH
>Executing: /tmp/tmp.WDHdya8Ubb/gpg.1.sh >--keyserver
>keys.gnupg.net
->-recv-keys
>90127F5B
>echo

Those lines should not be there.
>>
>>55605256

That captioned GIF is really fucking with me. Whoever made it got the quote wrong and it ruins 50% of its hilairty. He says "I fed up with this world", with the "am".
>>
>>55606176
it wont let me save the file after i change it
Any idea
>>
>>55606237

Just give up. If you can't search the internet with the simple error message you got after saving it, then there's no hope for you.
>>
>>55606237
>>55606248

If he at least posted the error message instead of just saying "it din't wurk" I'd give him some credit.
>>
>>55606237
edit as sudo
>>
>>55606248
>>55606267
i just meant i could save the file or edit it seems i dont have permission
>>
>>55606384
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
>>
>>55606384
gksu gedit
>>
>>55606408
>>55606277
>>55606176
>>55606411
Thanks for the help it worked
>>
>>55606432
good. reducing my karma.
>>
>>55606504
your one of the few helpful people since i switched to linux thanks f/a/m
>>
Anyone have any suggestions for a desktop environment that I'll be installing on a Debian Sid install?

I've been using fluxbox as my window manager but I'm sick and tired of having to install and configure forward different file managers, a separate network manager, Etc

I just want shit to work and I don't want to use gnome
>>
I've used Ubuntu and Xubuntu and was looking at giving Elementary a try. Is it as buggy as people say it is? What have your experiences been with it?
>>
>>55606772
kde, xfce.
try several DEs till you find the one that suits you.
>>
AMD friendly linux? I cant get a working distro to dual boot, usually I cant even get a live session.

Currently on an Athlon 750k/7870myst, and the most common error seems to be around my gpu as I get some spamming error about radeon
>>
>>55606927
AMD GPU has never worked, windows or linux
>>
Why people are still recommending debian to new users ? This distribution is not really user friendly. Last night I tried to install nividia proprietary drivers and it was a mess. I ended with a broken DE and a black screen before making things work again.
>>
>>55606927
>AMD friendly linux?
All GNU/Linux distributions use the same kernel.
There's no difference in hardware support if you compare two kernels with the same version enumeration from distributions.

Proprietary AMD drivers are shit.
Use the gallium drivers. Expect loss of performance.
>>
>>55606961
Debian has recently become the new Arch (userbase wise)
>>
>>55606961
PEBCAK/RTFM
>>
>>55606998
exactly what I was talking about >>55607016
>>
>>55607045
>he cant follow a wiki verbaitem
>>
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So this is the quality of debian-based distros.

hmmm really makes u think
>>
>>55607126

That's a metapackage and it can be removed.
>>
>>55607054
I can, that's not the question. The problem is how user friendly it is. And sorry but the wiki is shit. There's a few stuff that aren't explained that I had to find on other websites.
So yeah the community is great and you'll find what you want, but that's not user friendly. Absolutely not user friendly.
>>
>>55607155
>wiki is shit
>there's a few stuff that aren't explained
>a few
>shit

k then
>>
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>>55606974
hod do I sideload those drivers, I get to the start mint normal/compatibility mode then pic related
>>
>>55607283
just remove the proprietary catalyst drivers.
>>
>>55607297

>How do I do something
>just do it

see how that doesn't help
>>
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>>55607311
disconnect the discrete gpu and boot with the integrated one
or interrupt grub and boot the command line

just how fucking dense are you
>>
>>55607344
I have no discrete graphics, what do I add to grubs "setparams"? I'm there now
>>
>>55607445
Tried adding nomodeset to grub, just hangs on a black screen
>>
what Debian-based OS can run on only 512mb of ram?
>>
>>55607758
All of them. Unity in desktop Ubuntu is the only thing that might cause trouble in that case.

Why does it specifically need to be Debian-based?
>>
>>55607822
Running basic server, heard it was the greatest for that sort of thing
>>
>>55608059
Sticking with Debian Stable should be a safe bet in that case.
>>
>>55608110
404'd

rip /f(g)lt/
>>
Which archive managers do you guys suggest?
>>
>>55608183
Use this instead: >>55608245
>>
>>55608224
tar
>>
>>55608267
Something with a GUI and wide file type support. Good CLI options are always a bonus, though.
>>
>>55608224
atool
>>
I'm writing a program that use a CLI program. I would like to take the output of it, but my code doesn't work. Any idea why ?

    int fd[2];
pid_t child;

child = fork();
if(child == -1) {
perror("fork error");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
if(child == 0) {
dup2(1, fd[1]);

execvp(list_args[0], list_args);
}
else {

}

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