Why do people use GRUB? Don't they know it's deprecated

Because it just werkz

I ask myself the same question. I use LILO and it just werks.

>>55587348
development on LILO ceased end of last year

>>55587312
Passed to sylinux couple days ago.
Best thing I've done in my life.

Just use systemd-boot (ex-gummiboot).

>>55587387
Why not syslinux?

>>55587361
That's depressing

>>55587361
>Best thing I've done in my life.
let's hope not

I don't even know why I have GRUB on any of my systems considering I don't dual boot on any. Why do I waste 5 seconds waiting for the user to select which OS they want?

>>55587437
Probably something to do with you being a stupid person

>>55587437
*shrugs*

>>55587437
You know you can turn of the timer right?

>not using XOSL
>not using PLOP

>>55587312
Because I'd rather chainload something rather then have to enter into the UEFI every single damm time I need to change OS's

>>55587441
WOW EPIC MEME FAMILY

>>55587411
living the neet dream, dawg

>>55587312
Systemd-boot master race

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>>55587312
>Don't they know it's deprecated and clunky?

So is the gf but she's still a good fuck.
Grub is vastly understood by the majority of linux users, switching them over to a new epoch of booting will take a rather large pair of Doc Martins.

>>55587387
systemd-boot is efi only and I'm still using mbr

>>55587499
>Grub is vastly understood by the majority of linux users
Not since they switched to GRUB 2. Manual configuration is a pain in the ass now.

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>>55587453
but rEFInd exists
and it can be beautiful

>>55587312
no other choice

>>55587656
Does it come preinstalled or does it self configure on install?

LILO was awesome, extremely simple and stable as fuck
But as usual, they had to fuck things up and replaced it with the clusterfuck that is GRUB

That's why we cant have nice things

>>55587751
Has an auto-install script. It automatically scans and detects efi executables on boot, but you can do manual configuration as well. It even detects bootable USBs and shows them. Normally it's hideous, but again you can theme it quite easily.

>>55587799
Man, don't you miss the joys of

LI

>>55587799
"They" didn't replace shit. The developer decided to call it quits. He did offer to allow another to take it over. No one wanted to.

>>55587812
Guess ill give it a try.

>>55587883
Oh I forgot, it also has a live image you can use, you can test with that if you want

UEFI was made to deprecate bootloaders

>>55587312
I use GRUB 2. What do you suggest I use instead?

>>55587656
I don't want my bootloader to be pretty, I want it to be robust, well-known, supported, compatible with every OS I may ever want to boot, present me with a useful recovery prompt in case something goes wrong, etc.

>>55587937
UEFI has all that

>>55587911
UEFI was made to deprecate firmware programmers. Now companies can outsource their shitty firmware development to indian currytech companies.

Notice how UEFI BIOSes keep getting worse and worse.

>>55587954
Can you show me a quick example so I understand how they compare?

For example, say I need to boot linux with a different kernel parameter to debug some issue. In GRUB, I would go to my normal bootline, press ‘e’ to edit the entry, append my kernel parameter to the “linux” line, and then hit ctrl+x to boot it.

Or for another example, say I want to pre-load an initramfs to update the intel microcode before chaining into the regular initrd, I would just add another line like “initrd /boot/intel-ucode.img” to test it out.

How would you do that from your UEFI shell / prompt / whatever?

>>55587312

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DISABLE "PRESS E/C FOR COMMANDLINE" HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO THAT?

HOW??/


FUCK

>ever shutting down your computer
fuck off

>>55587976
2nd one for example:
launch uefi shell from uefi menu
/vmlinuz-linux root=<insert root> initrd=/initramfs-linux.img initrd /boot/intel-ucode.img

if you need to do this often you can save this as .nsh script

>>55587954
Can UEFI boot from btrfs, or zfs, or other obscure filesystems that grub supports?

>>55587459
I don't see any memes in that post

>>55588039
it can only boot from fat32 partitions

such is spec

>>55587976
with rEFInd simplest way to modify kernel parameters is with a line in /boot/refind_linux.conf
http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/linux.html

>>55588039
http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/drivers.html

>>55587656
Link to rEFInd theme?

>>55587437
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html

RTFM

>>55588068
Can you explain to me what exactly I'm getting from replacing program A by program B and moving my config options from /boot/programA/config to /boot/programB/config?

What actual advantage does UEFI+rEFInd offer over UEFI+GRUB2 or (what I'm currently using) BIOS+GRUB2?

>>55588241
github.com/initramfs/refind-theme

>>55588281
https://askubuntu.com/a/760971

>>55587312
I'm using Windows Bootloader. When I want to change something, I fire up Windows and launch EasyBCD.

>>55587883
know what else you can try?
turning off your tripcode

Unless you're dual booting or using an old mobo (3+ years old) just use EFISTUB. Anything else is overkill and in fact redundant.

>>55588320
>Because it scans for kernels on every boot, rEFInd is more adaptive and is less reliant on configuration files. This is most important if you're booting multiple Linux distributions, since in such a setup, you need to take care that the main GRUB's configuration file knows about changes to the other distribution's kernels.
This is actually the only one that I find pretty interesting / applies to me.

I do run into this problem myself, since if I e.g. update the kernel inside my ubuntu partition, I have to rerun my gentoo partition's grub2-mkconfig script. I can see the value of detecting kernels and configurations at boot.

Also,
>rEFInd on a USB flash drive or CD-R can boot an Ubuntu installation that's become unbootable.
Isn't this true for GRUB as well? Why is it listed as an advantage?

>>55588693
>rEFInd's scans for kernels and boot loaders can take a couple of seconds on each boot, so it may be a bit slower than GRUB to appear.
Wait, how is this a problem? Aren't kernels installed to dedicated EFI partitions or something?

Grub scanning for kernels takes a long while on my system since I have 12 TB of filesystems across 8 different drives. I don't want to pay hat every single time I boot.

>>55588039
I have btrfs-luks root, but boot from a fat32 /boot/ that has kernel and initram

>>55587312

Even though it works it's kinda intimidating to configure and fix. But in case you need it for something UEFI related works.

>>55588809
Eh, I've personally never really liked the idea of a dedicated partition for kernel/initram, mostly because I don't like the idea of having to hard-code an upper size limit for some particular type of content.

>>55587312
1. most people are neurotypical, unlike you
2. most people spend at most 5 seconds in their bootloader
3. most people don't care about your memes
4. kill yourself, suckless.org shiteater

>>55588945
I'm not quite sure how grub works, but for file system support, don't you need some parition for simple grub files?
I always had seperate /boot/ be it mbr or efi

>>55588981
No, my /boot (and grub configuration) is on a btrfs RAID. GRUB natively supports it.

>>55587312
> choosing your boot loader
> being this autistic

Just use what comes by default dammit
Fucking linux users

How do I change GRUB background?

>>55587499
>gf
>the

>>55587312
The Apple © MacBook™ Pro doesn't have this problem :)

GRUB2 is a serious fucking mess, i don't know why they even ship it in most distros.

I'd rather use extlinux.

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>>55589030
no default for my OS

>>55587361
systemd boot ftw

>>55587312
Because it looks awesome!

>>55587496
mein freund

>>55587445
Grub still takes like five seconds

It's bloated as all fuck