>AMD is helping developers implement DX12 and Async Compu

>>55571011
No that are not. They have hordes of fan boys who shill them for free

While NVIDIA is paying developers to fuck up implementations of DX12 and Async compute

>>55571011

>DX12
>not Vulkan

DROPPED

>>55571206
you have to appease microsoft if you want to destroy nvidia in every platform.

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>>55571195
Calling it with you!!
Then dev are going to say ASync is hard to implement and its trash. I can see it now.

>>55571233
This

>>55571186
Just like AMD

>>55571251
Not even close. We and fags are fighting a war and we have lost most of our soldiers

>>55571186
>They have hordes of fan boys who shill them for free
Yeah, theres all three of us.

AMD FTW!!!!!

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>mfw dx12

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>>55571186
SHUT UP! YOU ASSHOLE!!! GO GREEENN!!!

>>55571233
I'd rather have Microsoft die desu

>>55571317
you can not kill them by opposing them. they have 20 million consols, and all of the pc gaming.

they want to merge those two market with dx12.

AMD can do some serious damage through microsoft. then kill it.

>>55571363
Unless vulkan becomes more popular. Then we'd probably be able to game on anything. I don't mind the graphics card as long as the OS doesn't steal my data.

>>55571408
Both cases benefit AMD. so it is good.

>>55571011
Translation:
>our drivers are so shit we have to help developers to implement them in their games for them to give a fuck

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>>55571435

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The AMD Catalyst (fglrx) driver is now deprecated in 16.04. The open source drivers are not crossfire compatible.

What do?

>>55571663
stop using the meme os named loonix

>>55571303
Jesus Christ. And to think I nearly believed the memes and upgraded to win 10. I'll stick with dx11 since it works properly compared to this garbage new dx12.

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>>55571682
Nice try, nsa.

>>55571363
Microsoft are partnered with nvidia though.

>>55571011
>AMD is helping developers implement botnet and not Vulkan
worthless garbage case closed

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>>55571706
??? Dx12 is still on the same level of dx11, just improvements.

>>55571785
>Dx12 is still on the same level of dx11, just improvements.
this is bait, right?

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>>55571206

>DX12 implementation and multiGPU optimization
>in turn based strategy game designed for tablets
why?

>>55571860
>designed for tablets
kill yourself.

>>55571726
xbone is AMD hardware. Nvidia means nothing in this matter. you can look at the dx12 games on PC and how AMD performs.

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>>55571875
it sure looks like a mobile game.

>>55571945
>being this under aged
>if it's doesn't have call of duty art style, it's mobile

>>55571945
Yea looks pretty standard for the cross platform bullshit that's been around for 3+ years.

>>55571945
why did they make it look so cartoony

for what purpose

>>55571977
>muh stylized art
>(((cell shading)))

>>55571945
lmao what the fuck is this shit

>>55572015
>cell shading
that's not cell shading though.

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>buying an nvidia product when 3 year old AMD cards get constant upgrades that make them faster
>buying an nvidia product when youll have to pay hundreds more for proprietary hardware on a monitor
>buying an nvidia product when the $200 AMD 480 performs better than a 980 in updated games like Doom with Vulkan and other games will and have received similar updates

you literally have to be brainwashed to buy nvidia right now

>>55571945
it's considerably more detailed and graphically intensive than a mobile game

stop being a faggot

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kek

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>>55571011

>>55572114
WOW!

it's almost as if Vulkan/DX12 are a new thing or something

>>55571663
passthrough one of the gpus to a VM

>>55572114

Holy shit!

NVIDIA IS FINISHED

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>>55572134

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>>55572113

>>55572158

Nvidia should declare bankruptcy already.

>>55572114
are the vulkan benchmarks for Dota 2? just curious.

>>55572179
Under Windows 10 it runs faster with Vulkan, under 7/8 its faster with OpenGL - I think there are some benchmarks on the subreddit

>the biggest game in gaming history with the biggest events and biggest economy and money circulating uses Vulkan

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2-Vulkan/

NVIDIA BTFO

>>55572158
What the fuck? There's some dude in another thread spamming how every single console game port is dx12/vulkan yet this (probably factual) wiki says otherwise. Someone is lying here.

>>55572359
Xbone games will all be DX12 (win 10) exclusive. the wiki is not up to date

>>55572359
>>55572375

Vulkan != DX12

>>55572375
I'm not talking about shitty windows store games. I'm talking console ports like dishonored 2 or resident evil 7.

>>55572411
those will use Vulkan, and the microsoft/xbone games will use DX12 to make people upgrade to win10

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>>55571011
>discrete graphics for turn-based-strategy

>>55572423
>dishonored and resident evil will be using open gl and not direct x

This is bait right?

>>55572458
no, because they're console games, running on consoles, both consoles using AMD GPU, and the best selling console (PS4) not supporting any DirectX because micorsoft.

>>55572409
they both diminish driver overhead. so doesn't matter for AMD.

>>55572484
I don't think multi platform games will be ported from PS4 if it is going to be Windows.

Microsoft would push for xbone version.

>>55572521
not happening, plus the PS4 is basically a pc anyway.

>porting from inferior version that hasn't sold half the amount of consoles
nah

>>55572488
That's true but the performance increase with DX12 is not as great as with Vulkan for AMD cards so it does make a difference. The question is will MS allow Vulkan on the XBone, if not will developers implement both in their engines?

>>55572566
>will MS allow Vulkan on the XBone
it's not up to MS, it's up to developers, and since Vulkan is multiplatform and DX12 is not, most of them will go for Vulkan.

>>55571186
Nvidia can cling to their past successes where they half ass a new architecture and get better performance on DX11 while simultaneously screwing AMD with underwater 100000X tesselation.

Not anymore though. AMD is coming out strong and Nvidia will actually have to innovate for a change this time around, something tells me I doubt they will though.

Nvidia is a business, not a graphics card developing company.

>>55571303
lol. that's a lot of bullshit you pasted into a white background there son, I don't think broken games like Tomb Raider are going to convince anyone your shitty 1080 is worth the rape price though.

>>55572584
>it's up to developers
It's not, AMD an nvidia had to upgrade their drivers to make Vulkan work, if MS decides not to there is not much a dev can do

>>55572536
Xbone is also a pc. two consols are very similar.
>>55572566
MS wouldn't allow Vulkan on their consol. They are using dx12 in xbone.
>>55572584
developing in the said api comes forth in this situation.

MS helps directly if you are developing in DX12, they even send people for help.

In vulkan, all you have is forums.

>>55571435
Weird, I've been using AMD for about a year now and have never had a single driver issue.

On the other hand, I see people on /g/ complaining about shadow play crashing constantly along with various other bullshit.

So I'm inclined to disagree with you.

>>55572484
Ps4 doesn't even use opengl. It uses its own massively modified api called gnm. The libraries are very different.

>>55572113
Ouch, this must fucking sting.

>>55572114
And yet DOOM is one of the biggest games of the year, it might be the 'killer app' as you faggots like to say.

Crazy how that shit works.

>>55572521
All games are developed using directx on their devkits on pc then ported straight to the xbox one and ps4. No multi plats are developed on console then ported to pc.

>>55572277
Damn Huang must be throwing staplers real hard and researching getting his tat removed.

>>55572584
Are you stupid? Xbox doesn't support open gl or vulkan at ALL. It's in their fucking xbox one developer rundown.

>>55572484
lol, you retard.

this person really thinks because a game runs on PS4 it's developed using OpenGL

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55572676
will PS5 save Vulkan from being cucked by DX12?

>>55572566
LOL
VULKAN ON XBOX

OKAY

>>55572731
Exactly. What a fucking retard.

>>55572738
Vulkan is for phones and tablets that already use OpenGL for 100% of 3D graphics stuff.

Mobile will benefit the most.

>>55572603
Whats your fucking point they are all in it to make money. You could say AMD wants to make more money because they target the mid-tier instead of Nvidia who make the high-tier cards that really push the limit. Havent seen a 1080 outperformed yet so what is all that innovation worth right now? You have to face reality here, they are both in it to make money. They are both businesses. And i personally dont think that is wrong. I am rocking a r9 290 btw, waiting for vega but you fuckers will still say im a Nvidia shill.

>>55572738
There won't be a ps5.

>>55572775
why not?

maybe a PS$100% ?

I don't think I'll ever understand fanboys
Especially when it comes to graphics cards
They both do the same thing, plays the same games, except with the difference of 10-20 fps
Do you see how stupid you look when arguing about something like this?

>>55572359
Unless they get money from microsoft, they will probably get vulkan so they don't have to play around with DX11 as well as DX12.

You won't get as many benefits from DX12 is you have to account for a high level API as well

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>>55572723
>Xbox doesn't support open gl

>>55572962
Are you serious?

>>55572916
1. There's a reason devs use directx over ogl and it's because it's generally easier to use with constant additions to its libraries all the time and you get support from ms themselves if you need it.

2. They'd have to port it to direct x anyway if they want their game to run on the xbox because it doesn't support any form of open gl including vulkan.

>>55572668
Shadowplay is not part of the driver, it's part of geforce experience. I don't know whether your anecdote is correct or not, but it's certainly not related to drivers.

>>55571011
>Phone game graphics
>Need the latest video card to run it
What have we come to.

>>55572962
http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/appbuilder/archive/2013/10/14/raising-the-bar-with-direct3d.aspx

> The Xbox One graphics API is “Direct3D 11.x” and the Xbox One hardware provides a superset of Direct3D 11.2 functionality. Other graphics APIs such as OpenGL and AMD’s Mantle are not available on Xbox One.

>>55573035
>implying you can run it on just one card
there's reason why AMD is helping them to implement the DX12 multiGPU support.

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>>55571011
Why is this font allowed?

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>Game famous for its Indian main character
>AMD rushes in to help develop it

>>55573083
why can't you into font rendering?

>>55571011
As a 750 Ti user, RIP.

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>Graphics
>For a Civ Game

>>55573083
Looks fine here, lmao

tfw still waiting for AIB 480
tfw will have to wait at least one month more because I live on the third world
just kill me please

>>55571303
oh wow, the high framerate comes at a microstuttery cost. I wonder if amd users have actually seen true smoothness.

>AMD is helping developers
FUCKING FINALLY

>>55571011
>DX12
Disgusting, but I get why AMD really want the DX12 train since it would benefit everyone. The problem is that it is not only restricted to Windows, but it's restricted to Windows 10.

>>55573295
>The problem is that it is not only restricted to Windows, but it's restricted to Windows 10.
if you play video games, there's no reason why you wouldn't just use Win10 Enterprise LTSB

>>55573316
I don't use Windows 10 on my bare metal. It sits on a KVM where all Microsoft can do is see the games that I play.

>>55573352
well, if you're a fagget pedo, or can't into "edit group policy" where you have extra options as enterprise user, then kill yourself.

>>55572770
You forget that AMD is not just a graphics card company.

>>55573387
Nigga do you really think pressing a few buttons will stop Microsoft from snooping in your system? The same shit with all these amazing anti telemery tools that work magically and stop all the spying since they know exactly how Microsoft does it. You can block traffic with your router, but it still enjoying everything that's on the computer.
Fuck, you got me, have your (You).

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>>55573479
>the options don't do anything

>>55573479
This. It's been proven they keep tracking your every move. Fucking retards think they can trust Microsoft with all their information. As a future developer I am completely against windows 10 and Microsofts "anything you type or have on your pc can be used by us, no exceptions".

>>55574503
>As a future developer
bruh

>>55575162
>implying everyone just jerks around on 4chan all day doing nothing

>>55575205
>"future" developer
Neither is that guy

>>55575398
>Neither is that guy
That's probably true.
But honestly >>55574503 was a valid point. Just imagine how many "indie" developers their OS will destroy, or any developer teams smaller than microsoft.

>>55571945
That looks awful. Honestly Civ II looks better artistically.

>>55571011
Fuckin sweet
Now I can play Civ VI at 200fps instead of 180!

>>55572770
>You have to face reality here, they are both in it to make money.
Seriously, if you don't fucking get this simple principle, you are a brain dead ape. Do both companies care about advancing technology just for the sake of it? Obviously, who the fuck doesn't like innovating. But money trumps everything else, a company exists to make profit.

>>55576148
Kek. This. I don't care about the fps myself as long as it's 60 or more, it's smooth enough. Obviously not as good as 120 but you have to be a complete autist to care about 5-15 additional frames when it's already over 100 fps.

>>55573194
Where do you live,
Is the price hike up a lot?

>>55573012
Vulkan is not OpenGL you retard

>>55571011
VEGA BOYS

VEGA BOYS

VEGA BOYS

VEGA BOYS

>>55571663

CF was never relevant.