Can you believe we sent people to the moon with this sort

>we
You were involved?

>>55503931
>Being this autistic to take everything literally.

>>55503944
>being so neurotypical as to identify personally with the achievements of your countrymen

>>55503953
THIS

good christ almighty what a shitty haircut

>>55503986
and fashion sense, what were they thinking hiring this guy?

>>55503986
>>55504001

>badmouthing Gene "Martha get my mission waistcoat" Kranz

>>55503919
>we sent people to the moon

Good goy.

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>>55504001
Say what you will about gene's vests, but it is a known fact that he beat his wife mercilessly during Apollo's heyday, and still was a hero back at the office. I'm talking open cuts on his knuckles torn open from teeth. And he never splattered on that fine white vest.

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FANCY AS FUCK
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>>55503919

Why do you have a problem with terminals?

>>55503919
Those screens look like paper

>>55504043
>he thinks it was all filmed on a soundstage in Hollywood or whatever

>>55503919
“Where is a will there is a way” – they say.

>>55503919
We use those Plantronics headsets at work, feels good famalam

>>55503919
How does vacuum tube computing work?

>>55503919
Yes, I can. You can achieve a lot when the smartest people in the country get together and work towards something.

>>55505320
Presumably much the same as with transistors, just bigger, hotter and slower. I think transistors were fairly commonplace by the time of the moon missions.

>>55503919
>He thinks the moon landing is real
>He thinks the earth is round
Pleb

>>55505509
make it the smartest people in the whole world and you get an idea of the potential of /g/

>>55503953
/thread

>>55503919
>we sent people to the moon
riiight

>>55503953
REKT
E
K
T

>>55505624
I finally for the first time in my life met an IRL conspiracy nut. Didn't believe people landed on the moon.

Easily one of the dumbest people I've ever met.

When he found out I was an atheist and didn't believe in god, I just kind of said "I believe in what I can see" to put an end to it.

He goes "Can you see radio waves?"

We didn't remain friends.

>>55505914
The greatest irony is that conspiracy theory believers consider themselves to be more intelligent and enlightened.

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Did you know:
This is the female programmer standing next to every printed line of code that she singlehandedly wrote that sent the Saturn V to the moon! Amazing.

>>55503931
Your damn right, my taxpayer dollars helped fund this shit!

>>55504043
Sorry, Im not up to date on the latest Jew news.

But what part of the moon landing is a Jewish conspiracy again?

>>55503919
If we went to the moon with that technology then I'm Donald duck.

>>55505556
Transistors were introduced in 1947, and have become fairly common by the time the 60s rolled by.

It is quite amazing.
When you think about it, Apollo 11's onboard Computer had a 1MHz Processor and brought them to the moon.

The 1.3GHZ of an iPhone we use to take selfies and play Angry Birds...

>>55507313
rly makes u think

>>55506994
I'm more willing to believe you're the quacker himself than I am in moon conspiracy

>>55503919
>Can you believe we sent people to the moon with this sort of technology
No, because there was thing called the cold war, and the US wanted to look better than Russia, so they faked the whole thing.

>>55507612
Then why didn't Russia call us out, they could easily have verified it

>>55506798
*reblogs*

>>55506798
And she managed to stay slim and pretty.

>>55507313
As if the computer were the only thing necessary to achieve space flight?

When they are selling compact rocket systems that are capable of bringing necessities into and out of orbit for 600 USD and we are only taking selfies from a different angle you will have a point.

>>55507612
So what about the reflective device placed on the moon that is used to determine distance with extreme precision? I am the first one to call bullshit but only on bullshit

and no one has posted the source code that was put up on github recently

fucking trash board

>>55506798
>>55507702
Seriously, every single female programmer I've met that is remotely competent is either seriously autistic or a hambeast.

>>55507751
The moon's surface is already reflective. That's why you can see it at night, dumbass.

>>55507851
What happens when you point a laser at a mirror? It reflects away at angle proportional to the incoming angle.

This device is a cube which reflects light directly back to where it was sent from. It is definitely man made. Look it up.

>>55507759
fuck all of you, bet none of you fuckers would even find this remotely interesting

https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11

>>55503975
>>55505593
>>55505885
Samefag.

>>55507761
And that's only true of female programmers?

>>55507761
In uni for CS: have yet to spot a hammy that wasn't in Womens Studies (or whatever it is called now) but can confirm that the 3 female CS students are hyper autists that could easily compete with Stallman. Unfortunately I can barely stand to look at them or I would snag that low hanging fruit tb.h
>>55507905
>added routine for picking up Matt Damon
Ugh. Thanks for posting though.

>>55506798
really mind changing.

>>55507896
Yeah, the moon is a giant mirror. It's like a disco ball made out of space cheese.

>>55507313
And the fucking shit lags like crazy.

>>55506798
>She

>>55507957
>picking up Matt Damon
haha lol epic nerd humor

All the girls on my college course are either lesbians or fedora spergs (literally)

>>55506798
Wrong

That's all test output data

Nobody could write that much code

>all grills in my engineering classes are all shy anxious autists
>except for one 8/10 russian exchange student with a cute accent who talks to me a lot
>but if I fug her she'll want me for a green card

What do senpai

>>55510411
Fug her, then report to INS

>implying moon landing happened
if it did, we would have a lunar base by now

Iirc the whole thing was very specifically engineered for one purpose, ie, guidance. People keep comparing the apollo flight computers to modern standards without considering that it was a computer built to do one thing and do it very very well.

Your wristwatch might have a faster microprocessor but it would be incapable of the calculations the apollo computer performed.

Also core rope memory wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory I want to make some.

>>55510411

> Already in the country as a student
> doesn't have a green card

Is she a spy?

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>>55507896
Nature produces cubes too.

>>55510505
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

>>55510501
I guess I misspoke, I meant she'd want to marry me so she could stay here forever, and then turn into a maximum controlling bitch

Haven't you heard the stereotypes??

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>>55510505
>>>Pyrite is real
mind = blown

>>55510536
>>55510536

Guess what, they will become controlling bitches no matter what

>>55510411
Fuck her but don't marry her dummy
It's not that hard

>>55503919
Yes, it's pretty much a big explosion that launcher you in the air, it isn't much different now.

>>55510411
Let's face it, you're going to die a kissless virgin if you don't take this opportunity, consequences be damned.

>>55503919
>this sort of technology

you mean basic physics?

>>55510411
just fug her

maybe she's the one

>>55510411
>8/10
>talks to me a lot
She wants to fuck.

>>55507751
what about the one that the russians put up there on the back of their remotely controlled vehicle without putting anyone on the moon at all?
because i suppose only a human could have put one on the moon, we couldn't have just strapped one to a big firework and blasted it away into space.

p.s. only huge giant laser telescopes that can produce like a gigawatt pulse of light in about a nanosecond or something mad like that and are capable of detecting the like 4 or 5 extra photons with a photo multiplier during the receiving window are capable of 'proving' (showing that it is statistically likely that the moon became 0.000001% more reflective for a while) that the retroreflectors are even there.
that shit you saw on the big bang theory when they did it with a laser pointer from a corner shop was utter bile.

>>55506798
damn..... really makes you think

>>55510411
>8/10
Then it's not really a question now is it?

>>55503919
Most of the computations has been done beforehand. There's more physics computed in Angry Birds than in one of those things.

>>55510411
She's a spy senpai

Think about it

Why would a russian be studying programming at a pleb American school?

>>55504053
What a hero, truly amazing.

>>55505914
Congrats on not believing quantum physics, retard.

>>55503953
>>55503975
>>55505593
>>55505885


Cringy samefag

>2016
>still falling for the moon landing meme

>>55512691
This. It is entirely possible for the entirety of your body to be transported to mars, but the chances are slim. I think it has more to do with thermodynamics though.

Okay you caught me. I am just reciting pop sci shit I know nothing about because I wanted to talk to someone today

It's about time NASA comes clean about it. It doesn't matter if they published the source code on github after 50 years.

China will develop the capability to go to the Moon really soon and NASA is all too aware that they're not gonna find the US flag and Neil Armstrongs footprints there so if you ask me, all this Github Apollo repository is just a bait and switch tactic to divert people's attention about what really happened in 1969. The reality is that we haven't been to the moon and the only "evidence" they have is a fuzzy black and white video which they conveniently "lost".

It's 2016 and with all our computers and super computers and whatever space technologies we developed, we haven't gone past few hundred miles above the earth.

>>55513042
in today's money, the Apollo project cost well over 100 billion dollars

we're too busy spending that money on health care for old people and blowing up brown people on the other side of the globe

>>55503919
>we
you didn't move a finger, nice try.

>>55513042
>China will develop the capability to go to the Moon really soon
You say that as if the hard part of the operation is the software and not the industry+hardware. If you think chinkshit is going to the moon anytime soon, you're as delusional as the "India Superpower 2050" mongs

>>55513261
Money is a farce. It doesn't matter how much it is in today's money. They didn't build a time machine for that to be relevant anyway. They should've made it free in the first place but that's a completely different matter.

>>55513042
>The reality is that we haven't been to the moon
No, the reality is, you fell for one of the weakest conspiracy theories there is; one that makes no sense if you'd actually know anything about the cold war, and one that would be impossible to pull off.

>>55513566
Yeah, that's why they keep going to the Moon every weekend after mastering spaceflight. That's why Neil Armstrong never made any public appearances. That's why you keep filling people's hope about Mars for decades even though the Moon is much closer. Hell even your own rockets have been failures that just to get to orbit around the EARTH, you ask Russia to take you there.

Your ability to think is being hampered by unhealthy patriotism.

That chair looks super comfy.

Modern desk chairs are fucking trash.

>>55513757
>Yeah, that's why they keep going to the Moon every weekend after mastering spaceflight.
What kind of argument is that? Give me a reason why they should've kept going to the Moon first. The space race had its victor and there was nothing to gain - "because you can" isn't a valid reason to spend money if you're a government agency. Public interest was already declining rapidly while the Apollo program was still going and it only picked up recently with SpaceX and high-profile Mars missions like Curiosity. And explain this to me: if the Americans faked the whole thing, why would the Soviets play along? Or are you seriously suggesting that they couldn't tell?

>Your ability to think is being hampered by unhealthy patriotism.
I'm German.

>>55514083
Curiosity is fake too for all we know. All we have are some animated videos on Nat Geo and some photoshopped images.

>>55503931
fpbp

>>55503931
America is like a sports team. We're the twelfth man for our country; or at least we mostly were once. Sorry that Leninist propaganda made you an unpatriotic, anti-nationalist vagina.

>>55514083
I hate to break it to you but plenty of anomalies have been discovered in the photos and videos they claimed to have taken on the moon, which conclusively proves that the whole program was a hoax.

They didn't have the capability to travel 238,000 miles and back with humans aboard, and 50 years later they still don't have the capability.

I don't know if you're trolling but I question your reasoning abilities and your inability to process information is unsettling.

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>>55503919
Do Americucks need to be reminded that it was German scientists who won the space race?

>>55503919
>we
Stop BIRGing.

>>55514308
>America is like a sports team.
It's just as retarded when fat beer-guzzling sports "fans" watch TV and then proclaim "WE WON"

>>55514083
The Soviets already fell for the space race which bankrupted their economy. Calling out the hoax isn't going to get their money back. Do you seriously choose to believe things based on what Russians tell you?

>>55514373
Retard.

>>55514381
>anally devestated Sov detected

>>55510335
Fuck off young fag

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>>55510335
>Nobody could write that much code

>>55514373
Those so-called "anomalies" have been explained numerous times and very satisfactory so. And the people who brought them up in the first place don't know shit about space travel or science. It's a mix of half-knowledge and paranoia (or some similar condition) that causes some people to still question the evidence. But conspiracy theorist only believe in evidence THEY came up with and call bullshit on everything else anyway - arguing against them is a Sisyphean task which I'll quit with this post.

>>55514477
The Soviets fucking hated America and many of them still do - if there was actual evidence that the Moon landings were fake they would've been all over that shit.

>>55514488
Go cry to Obama. I'm sure he'll whisper to you what you want to hear.

>>55514638
The flag moved. Any explanation you invent doesn't change the fact that the moon has no air.

Case closed.

>>55512823
>>55507919
haha assmad burherclap
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>>55507905
https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/blob/master/BURN_BABY_BURN--MASTER_IGNITION_ROUTINE.s

>>55514673
>Go cry to Obama. I'm sure he'll whisper to you what you want to hear.

Welp. That should complete my top 10 worst comebacks ever seen on the internet.

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>>55514455
Yeah, we say "we won" as we watch footage of sandnigger cinder block bunkers being ripped to shreds by explosive gattling rounds from a gunship out of effective range.

What a travesty.

>>55504053
An inspiration to spousal abuse.

>>55506798
Her gender matters why? Other than she's strangely bangable.

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>>55506798
She must be a wizard

>>55514932
>out of effective range
Uh... no?

>>55515208
Out of the enemies' effective range. Inference is a good skill to have.

>>55515052
nobody?

>>55504053
B A S E D

>>55514554
>>55514573
It's true though

In the book "Apollo 11 Owners' Workshop Manual" (Haynes), the caption for this photo is "Software Engineer Margaret Hamilton with a pile of print-out results from simulations, circa 1969 (MIT Library)"

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>>55514716
Also, 9/11 was a hoax (jet fuel can't melt steel beams)

>>55503931
>>55503953
Autism

>>55503931
>>55503953
(we) as in humans, stupid fucks

It's not like it requires a fucking VB interface to track an IP address to get to the moon. It requires some flight control shit and precalculated trajectories. It's just simply physics mathematical formulas.

>>55516093
>9/11 was a hoax
What the fuck does that even mean, it obviously happened.

>>55514638
Armstrong all but admitted that it was a hoax in a 90s speech, one of his rare appearances.

He said this bizarre line after comparing astronauts to birds:
"The only bird that can speak is the parrot, and he doesn't fly so well."

Now... why would he say that?

>>55516391
He's senile or a bad public speaker?

>>55516140

Humans are not one person

We cannot take credit for others work, and to do so is arrogance

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>>55516391
What Armstrong actually said was "Wilbur Wright once noted that the only bird that can talk is the parrot, and he doesn't fly very well, so I'll be brief".

Welcome to Plebbit

The moon hoax has already been proven. Many Engineers and scientists who are a lot smarter than you have confirmed it was a fake. It's become boring to even talk about this story anymore.

The sheer number of morons in this thread is just disturbing. It's funny how those who apply logic and reason are simply dismissed as "conspiracy theorists".

I expected /g/ to live by higher standards than that.

>>55516805
The moon landing has already been proven. Many Engineers and scientists who are a lot smarter than you have confirmed it was a good. It's become boring to even talk about this story anymore.


The sheer number of morons in this thread is just disturbing. It's funny how those who apply logic and reason are simply dismissed as "conspiracy theorists".

I expected /g/ to live by higher standards than that.

>>55516768
Stop applying morals to figures of speech. Humans have been (or supposedly been) to the moon, and we are humans.

>>55516805
Source please

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>>55516805
>confirmed

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>>55516805

>>55516825
van allen belt

>>55516391
Baneposting gets an unexpected turn.

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>>55516805
The only thing that has been confirmed is that you're a complete fucking retard. Kill yourself.

>>55514985
Because /g/ is full of woman-fearing mysoginist dirtbags who think troll twitter posts from money grubbing whores are reliable examples of what women do in IT

what a great ass

if you have a suit fetish this guy is absolute eye candy

>>55516939
It's time for you to go back to tumblr.

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>>55516965

>>55516974
I'm getting so sick of this meme. Why is it frowned upon to act like an adult on this fucking board? Be a woman-fearing NEET if you want but stop trying to bring people down with you.

>>55517013
Tumbleddit is that way faggot --->

>>55514521
Soviets made it to space first. Americans made to the moon first. Germans made both happen.

>>55517013
/pol/ + /r9k/ + /v/ + ironic shitposting + summer = what you're complaining about
but this is 4chan so I don't know what you were expecting

>>55514769
fuckin ePiC xD well MeMe'd My mAN !1

do shills still think the earth is round? LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-FeZg5Jouw

>>55517027
acting like >>55516974 is extremely reddit my friend

>>55517029
Might as well say it was germans who invented the nuke, too.

>>55517090
we got nukes from Xenu

>>55517027
>wants 4chan to be his conservatard safe spaces
>lectures people who stick to 4chan despite the constant antagonism they put up with for being progressive because they don't stick to liberal safe spaces

You are a pussy. I am not. DWI faggot.

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>>55517218
GET OUT OF MY SAFE SPACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55517344
aww kitties playing in water nngggg

>>55503919
>implying

>>55517218
Women are less suited for tech positions biologically. This is not a social issue. You are hated because you are trying to make it into a social issue and are advocating for unfair hiring conditions. Not because of safe spaces or anything like it.

>>55517564
I'm not "hated". I make people angry. And the people I make angry are trying to make women with greater aspirations into miserable housewives so I don't care. What I'm annoyed at is the sense of entitlement /pol/tards have with this entire website. You do not own it, it's not your safespace, and if you can't be around people who disagree with you without telling them to fuck off, you're a deranged individual and need to deal with your own problems instead of making them other people's problems.

>>55517643
You're misusing the word safe space.
Safe space means you are forcefully removed from premises when you go against what's considered norm in that safe space.
4chan is no safe space for anything and users telling you to fuck off does not make it one.
You people are ones needing safe spaces because whenever someone wants to debate you in a civil manner, you have nothing to respond with. Your tactics are harassment.

>>55517675
>my throwing a tantrum if I don't get a safe space means I'm not asking for a safe space

>>55517675
Excuse me?

Oh, you're putting me in the same basket as tumblrinas. Typical of conservatards. Considering people on an individual level requires too much brainpower and it's so convenient to take the lowest example of something and apply it without discrimination to EVERYTHING you dislike.

Nobody here debates me in a civil manner. They either tell me to fuck off or they twist my arguments and put words in my mouth based on screenshots they saw in feminist/tumblr cinge thread on /b/. My only stance is that women weren't necessarily the vain pieces of shit depitcted in these "women who code"-or-whatever-it's-called screenshots circulating occasionally here and I'm already being put in the same ranks as the feminazis who accuse everyone of stare-raping them. This is what dealing with conservatards is like. It's a real fucking joke and I hear it every. fucking. day.

>>55517643
>"trying to make women with greater aspirations into miserable housewives."

That's some complex you got there. Don't be so man-fearing.

>"it's not your safespace"

The irony of this statement. You do understand that this isn't your safespace either, don't you?

>>55517748
Heh, a woman throwing a tantrum about someone else "throwing a tantrum".

>>55517643
>>55517675
>>55517748
>>55517750
>>55517763
>>55517777
Can you two just fuck already and get it over with

>>55517750

All you've done so far is post one-liners painting anyone who disagrees with you as a neckbeard misogynist strawman. How exactly do you expect people to 'debate in a civil manner' when that's all you've posted?

Regardless, pushing women to study/work in fields they do not wish to is retarded. There are tons of fields dominated by women that men don't want to work in, as there are fields dominated by men that women don't want to work in.

>>55517777
The stereotyping is real.

>>55517763
>`That's some complex you got there. Don't be so man-fearing.
You literally said women were not fit for jobs in technology. I don't have to explain to you how that's liberticide biological determinism, do I? You're not too slow to figure that out on your own, right?

If there's something life-draining about arguing with conservatards, it's how I have to break down, over and over again, very basic concepts.

>The irony of this statement. You do understand that this isn't your safespace either, don't you?
I didn't tell anyone here to leave. I told someone to not tell me to fuck off to tumblr because it's ridiculous. The reason I'm not on tumblr is because I don't want a safespace in the first place. That doesn't mean I won't tell people who feel entitled to this website to eat shit.

>>55517804
>All you've done so far is post one-liners painting anyone who disagrees with you as a neckbeard misogynist strawman.
Yeah I'd like to see when I did that.

>How exactly do you expect people to 'debate in a civil manner' when that's all you've posted?
>On 4chan
>Can't handle being insulted without throwing a hissy fit instead of arguing back

Literally right-wing SJWs. kek

>>55517777
I'm not a woman senpai. It's hard for conservatards to imagine someone defending or bringing up people who are not part of the same group of population because you're completely void of empathy, but make an effort.

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>>55504043
>he fell for the 'Kubrick directed it' meme

>>55516093
The jet fuel didn't melt the steel beams. The beams crushed and collapsed.

>>55517931
Well the jet fuel softened the steel beams, so the collosal weight on top of them was enough to bend them. Then when the top structure fell onto a lower part the combined weight + energy from the fall collapsed the next layer, and this continued until it was ground level.

People seem to think that buildings that big act like giant solid blocks but they're more like matchstick houses.

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>>55517931
>>55517999
>all this rationalization that the jews didn't do it

THE JEWS DID IT ANON.

THERE ARE JEWS IN YOUR CLOSET RIGHT NOW 9/11ING ALL YOUR STUFF AND KEKING YOU WITH THEIR KEK RAY SHOOTING EYES

>>55506909
Are you like 70?

>>55518085
hey, generation X-ers and Y-ers are gonna be paying for this shit throughout their entire lives

>>55507761
dont
she's a cia nigger

>>55517750
Nobody debates you because you didn't post any argument. All you wrote so far is "i hate haters". In my eyes, you're no better than a tumblerina.

>>55518118
how is saying "i hate haters" on the same level as people who use harassment or rape accusations to get their way?

why are you faggots always acting like victims of liberal censorship everytime someone disagrees with you?

>>55518126
Because you're on their side. If you were neutral, you woudn't hate one side any more than the other.

>>55503919
Calculations aren't made on the fly, though
Computers do nothing but handle data.
Show me the rockets, the engineered materials used to build the ships and the equipment. This is what actually took "us" to space, not silly consumer gadgets.

>I know this is stale bait thread

>>55514769
>The Elder Tolds IV: Oblivious
Perfection

>>55518141
Being against sexism doesn't mean being for harassment and rape accusations. That is some serious fucking bullshit.

That you're unable to separate tumblerinas from average progressive people is YOUR problem. You are the one who is too slow-witted and intellectually lazy to make the distinction. I don't have to put up with your willful, ill-faithed stupidity by separating myself from them. Or, if you want to play at that level, let's go ahead and presume the conservatards on 4chan are to be associated by default with all the disgusting shit conservatards pull: Bombing abortion clinics, christian medicine, creationism in schools, bisexuality healing camps,the "death panel" bullshit campaign, I could go on for hours. Do you want to have to constantly have to dissociate yourself from all that? No? Then shut the fuck up and take my stance as I present it you dim-witted fuck.

>>55507761
This was before the super size me era.
Most people still had dinner at home and ate somewhat healthy compared to today standards. No pop tarts or chocolate chunks for breakfast / dinner, maybe some oats and fruit.

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>>55518193
>implying she isn't the next Richard Stallman

>>55518193
If you are speaking out against sexism, you should also be speaking out against harassment and rape accusations. If you do only one, you're on the same level as tumblerinas.

>>55517039
>Fraudster Kent
Kek

>>55518217
So what, everytime I speak out against women-fearing NEETs on /g/ I have to include a disclaimer such as "ATTENTION: I do not associate nor support harassment campaigns held by tumblrinas to force their ways on people"?

Dude,

FUCK

YOU.

How about you have to do the same shit every time you say something conservative?

The sense of self-entitlement conservatards have is just depressingly immense. Seriously, there is no way to deal with you guys. Fuck you. FUCK. YOU.

>>55518217
>you have to do as I tell you of you're wrong
It's cute how white suburban teens think they're the center of the universe.

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>really cute asian in my class, into vidya and anime
>chat her up for a while
>turns out she has literally 20 other dudes also orbiting her, buying her shit and what not
i knew it was too good to be true
fuck this gay earth

>>55518263
And?

>>55518249
Then don't be surprised by negative replies you get.
On 4chan no one is talking to you personally.
We're responding to content of your posts.
If the content is indistinguishable from what a tumblerina would post, of course the response would be the same as if a tumblerina posted it.

>>55518263
You're literally in high school. Get some self awareness and stop being such a fucking whiny bitch holy shit

>>55518249
bruh, you are getting le ebin trolled by this dude

>>55518269

consider his other post:

>If you are speaking out against sexism, you should also be speaking out against harassment and rape accusations.

instead of responding viscerally to this, you'd be better off asking "why"? There is literally no logical connection between these things.

the troll is simply finding a way to keep passively calling you a tumblrina, and watch you sperg out

>>55518263
>the world doesn't revolve around you
Good, now that you've realized this you've finally become age 5 emotionally.
Keep it up!

>>55518269
>If the content is indistinguishable from what a tumblerina would post, of course the response would be the same as if a tumblerina posted it.
No. That is your perception problem. For fuck's sake, how hard is it to understand? How about everytime you post against crime gangs you have to dissociate yourself from racism? Everytime you speak out against pedophilia you have to dissociate from homophobia? Everytime you speak out against self-entitlement you have to dissociate yourself from ageism? See what I'm doing there? It's what you're doing. Speaking out against sexism is a legit cause, harassing people is not. The fact that you put both together IS LITERALLY YOUR CONSCIOUS CHOICE because PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST SEXISM ARE INCONVENIENT TO YOU, AND THEREFORE IT IS CONVENIENT FOR YOU TO ASSOCIATE THEM WITH EVIL.

I do not have to pander to your special snowflake needs to be reassured that I'm not a tumblrina just because I speak out against something that should be evidently considered wrong to anyone who's remotely balanced.It is not. my. problem. It is your problem. Get this through your thick skull already you self-entitled twat. It's an undeniable fact.

I will no longer be arguing about this because it would be entertaining the idea that people have to appease your own personal prejudices further. This mere thoguht is fucking crazy and I already made the very clear point that if it was applied to conservatards, you certainly wouldn't be playing along willingly, therefore it's not fair to impose it on me. Because you,re not a special snowflake and you don't deserve more pandering than I do.

>>55518267
got turned down and that was that

>>55518291
>projecting this hard

>>55518263
Just be the guy who isn't sucking up to her dude. If she's safe to bang, she'll like that. If she isn't safe, then she'll keep stringing along her suckers, and they'll get what they're asking for, and you'll be above it.

>>55518269
>I'm a white suburban teen so I'm entitled to be a retard, and everyone else has to deal with that!
Or you could, you know, try not to be a retard. Why anyone would want to settle for being the lowest common denominator I don't know. Conservatards actually put effort into making a bubble trying to support it, as though the more of the world they block out the more they've won.

>>55518341
All I can do is repeat, do not be surprised by responses, they are what your posts deserve.

>>55507931
It used to be

Then feminists rounded up a bunch of aspiring nurses and accountants and talked them into becoming dispassionate web devs, because everything men do, even the inconsequential stuff for useless men, has to be done by women.

>>55518339
are you okay anon?

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>>55503986

my mom makes me get it cut like that every month

>>55518359
I do not admit to being a retard, that's something you made up.

>>55518346
>projecting
You're doing it wrong. Take my advice and stop being a little faggot, I wish someone told me that when I was in high school

>>55518360
Fine then, I'll respond to all conservatard posts by putting them in the same basket as bible-thumping libertarian nutcases. After all that's all they deserve for standing for status quo.

Just ask yourself why that usually doesn't happen though.

Spoiler: It's because liberals are smarter than that.

>>55518380
>I do not admit to being a retard
Yes, I know you're not bright enough to recognize it. That's why I'm calling you a retard.

>>55518339
what he really discovered was

>humans are animals
>love isn't real
>it's a series of chemical reactions triggered by exposure to traits that typically signify genetic fitness for the primitive human habitat, with the primary modes of stimuli being sight, sound, and scent
>that cute girl across from you is a basic machine that goes into reproduction mode when its ears detect low-frequency vibrations coming from an upside down triangle that smells like a healthy penis
>you are the same with two opposing triangles and that fresh salty ocean-like girl smell
>there is no magic in this
>except for maybe a cranky supernatural jew that thinks polygamous relations are bad for the gene pool
>the western media lied to you
>you have now reached the age of 4 and realized that santa claus is not real

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>>55503919
There was also this sort of technology.

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>>55518431
>using rockets to go to space
>not just downloading the space app from the app store for $1,99

haha fucking dinosaur grandpas. can you believe it?

>>55503919
And? We could've done it with just pencil and paper. The feat was in the engineering, not in the calculations.

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>>55518411
>he still chooses to wake up a chimp everyday and absorb streams of symbolic information notation concerning what amounts to a toy for lighting up the primate's neural synapses

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post dream jobs

>>55518411
i feel like these:
>love isn't real
>it's a series of chemical reactions triggered by exposure to traits that typically signify genetic fitness for the primitive human habitat, with the primary modes of stimuli being sight, sound, and scent
contradicts each other

>>55518411
>love isn't real
>love is a series of chemical reactions
These two statements contradict each other.
Being able to observe something does not make it any less real. Quite the opposite.
Yes, it is a chemical process and nothing more. Just like YOU are a chemical process and nothing more. The world works quite well without magic.

>>55518393
>that usually doesn't happen

Neo-liberals share a personality type with the stereotypical american conservatard. Categorizing, faithful to an ideology born of memes instead of facts, and hateful towards anyone who says otherwise. With liberal themes being so dominant in the west, they are bound to win over the moronic majority. Your "college educated progressive" club is, and has been, slowly deteriorating. Exposure ripped the door off, and now you get to experience all the fun of sharing opinions with idiots who barely know why they hold them.

I know you have a WSJ article bookmarked saying bla bla bla racism tiny brains broad categories, but please take a look at liberal identity politics for a moment and tell me it's not rhetorically identical to standard american racism. Hint: you can't, because racism used for what are supposedly the forces of good is still racism.

inb4 prejudice+power
Racism without power is still real, it's still heard, and it still affects other people's behaviour. Social institutions are spooks anyways, any black man can fire a gun. Is lawmaking power? Maybe, but lawbreaking is a much greater one. Who here comes from a country that actually defeated a guerilla force?

>>55518411
>that cute girl across from you is a basic machine that goes into reproduction mode when its ears detect low-frequency vibrations coming from an upside down triangle that smells like a healthy penis
>an upside down triangle that smells like a healthy penis
>two opposing triangles

what da fug are you talking about?

>>55518499
>>55518479
>he can't discern intent from context
>he interprets posts literally
>having autism
>2016

>>55518510
If you don't like opposed triangles you're objectively gay sry m9

Remember when this thread was about using giant machines to put people on the surface of another world, and not "let's be a /pol/ simulator? Those were good times

>>55518503
>look at liberal identity politics and tell me it's not rhetorically identical to standard american racism

might have to elaborate on that a bit. not sure where you're going with that

>>55518522
>i post bullshit and dismiss criticism with "its not literal dude"
hows that philosophy major treating you anon

>>55507896
Have you actually verfied this yourself or do you take everything you read as fact?

>>55518411
If prime instincts are so strong why isn't she pregnant right now?
And if it's about culture then culture is more important than instinct and we're not mere animals.

Sorry, you can't blame your low self steem on nature, you have the choice to "grow up" and actually do what society spects you to do in order to access the available pool of women or give up and kill yourself.

Myths, rituals and symbols aren't present in any animal but humans. We are substantially different.

>>55516140
yeah sure 'mericunt

>>55518503
My point was just that women should be allowed to have IT jobs. Jesus fuck.

Listen. I don't think I know anyone who is not progressive to an extent. And out of a subset of something like 50 Facebook friends the mind of whom I know the bare minimum about, maybe 3 of them are somewhat, SJWs and maybe, MAYBE they adhere to the racial identity stuff.

This is the reality of progressivism.

The biggest factor of your concerns is the fact that you cherry pick loud examples from the world of Tumblrina and instead of dismissing them as hilarious nutcases like I do, you obsess over them and identify them as "liberalism", like it's a great enemy and that the existence of a democrat government proves they are taking over the world of something.

None of that reflects reality. Not even remotely.

We just want cops to stop hunting darkies like it's a sport and women to be allowed to hold jobs that require skills if they can pull it off.

Conservatards pretend that reasonable, small demands such as these are a threat and that it's liable to lead to their oppression. And they project the words of tumblrinas as "evidence". This makes it so ALL progressive discourse is automatically ignored, and there's no way to push for mere common sense. Because with the way you guys make it out, the only way to avoid being in a regiment that oppresses white men is to keep oppressing blacks and women.

This is fucking retarded and juvenile. Not everything is a war where the only possible outcome is a winner and a loser.

Being for progress doesn't mean being for anything other than progress. You make that imperative on your own initiative, and you are hurting progress by doing so, and pushing for regression at the same time.

You do this on purpose, because it's in your best interest.

This is what tumblrinas refer to as "a shitlord".

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>>55518536
But don't you see? These questions are IMPORTANT!

>>55516826
Your ancestors were to the moon.
You are incapable of it, whether in contributing or achieving them same. You are a dumb fuck.
Ergo stop using incorrect possessives to stroke your own ego from the accomplishments of others.

>>55518560
Humans are capable of shame. When we are born and as we grow we are taught things that we should be ashamed of and all these constructs are societal. Not him or anything

>>55518576
>>55518503
And the evidence of all what I just posted here is in this thread. I only called out someone who said women didn't belong in IT and suddenly I'm debating in literal essays that I'm not a tumblrina and making nuances between my stance and all the dumb shit extremist liberals have said on social medias -- A PLATFORM THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO MAKE A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF A POLITICAL STANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Search for conservative excesses on Facebook and Twitter to know what I mean. I'm sure a lot of your conservabuddies cheered when those 50 queers got shot to death. HEY IF YOU SAY SOMETHING CONSERVATIVE THEN YOU STAND FOR THAT BY DEFAULT UNLESS YOU OPENLY SPEAK AGAINST IT!!! How does that sound?

>>55518503
>>55518576
Fucking hell, no one cares about this /pol/ tier bullshit. Fuck off and die, both of you.

>>55518576
>My point was just that women should be allowed to have IT jobs.
But women are allowed to have IT jobs. They have been for decades now.
Now, that many women are stupid and uninterested is a completely different topic.

>>55518576
Who cares about your point

Your post is funner to nitpick

>We just want cops to stop hunting darkies like it's a sport and women to be allowed to hold jobs that require skills if they can pull it off.
Hey, you got your wish. Cops aren't hunting darkies. Instead, cops are very much afraid of darkies and react like frightened dogs after a century of darkies lashing out at them for actual oppression committed by similar looking people (basically the same line of thought that makes cops assume every nigger has a gun).

Women can have jobs that require skills. Many do, and they're all over law, finance, medicine, real science, and politics now, but most women aren't interested in jobs that involve entirely worthless skills like knowing CSS. Those are traditionally the domain of men with mental disorders. The kind of freaks that derive psychological pleasure from organizing legos all day. Why do feminists want to waste perfectly good women on jobs for worthless anime watching crazies? It's like they're insecure and think man = superior and man choice = superior choice or something.

>>55518602
Stop fucking replying then, you contrary little shit

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People by and far hear, "We went to the Moon." Its easy to think thats impossible, how you could only achieve it on paper. They literally have no personal comprehension of any of the shit that humans had to think up to go to the Moon. We are backsliding today because of the public consciousness being polluted by you very same fucks who would dare to think anything in this reality is impossible. You fools. We have eternity in a grain of sand, nothing is out of reach of Man except for what he decides is out of his reach.

Want proof of the Apollo program and the TRUTH? Follow the money! Follow the companies contracted to make the shit! You people who say "We never went" never even looked. The engines, command modules, the space-suits, the moon buggy, the computers, nearly EVERYTHING was contracted out! This required hundreds of thousands of humans and about a hundred billion dollars.

You don't just say "We never split the Atom, too hard. It was faked." because it has tons of evidence to the contrary...this has the same amount of evidence of it happening you dolts. Find me a reason we can't go to the Moon and I'll find you a shitty source.

North American Aviation, Northrop Grumman, Rocketdyne, IBM, ILC Dover, General Motors, Goodyear Aerospace, Westinghouse Corp., Whirlpool, General Dynamics, thats just to start. All of them would have to be rock-steady compliant. Everyone involved. Are these companies willing to risk their reputations, their futures, on a lie? All these companies would lie about their revenues, profits, expenses?

...Just to fuck with Russia, who mind you would DEFINITELY shit on the USA if the moon landings were not real.

Watch the documentary series "Moon Machines" and come to terms with the fact that people born 75+ years ago were much, MUCH fucking smarter than you currently are-- and I'm not talking about what facts you can regurgitate that you read on plebbit last week when you were slacking off at your 9-5 me-no-thinky job. ps I'm 12 wtf

>>55518539
I believe he means that the "us against them" disposition that some black activists has is similar to, or actually just plain racism against whites.

He is not completely wrong. There is a lot of black people with genuine spite for white people. It's not constructive at all.

However, that's basically the only problem with it. It doesn't help their cause. It's really rare that a white person is truly victim of racism. Something for example like a bunch of black people ganging up on a white guy, or a black thug targetting white people on purpose, that's a good example of when whites are victims of racism. Otherwise, you're not getting your resume ignored because your name sounds too white, and you were born with a much lower chance of being raised in a shit ghetto if that means anything to you.

Plus, blacks in the US are under the impression that they can be bullied and shot to death by cops and that the justice system won't stand by them. Whether that is reality, that's how they feel, right? And that's absolutely fucking terrifying. If I was under that impression about a race that dominated me in population size, I'd probably hate them too.

But the way to make peace with blacks isn't to hate them back. You can't solve violence and hatred by escalating violence and hatred. That can only end with the complete extermination of one of the sides. Blacks need to be convinced that they are welcome in white society, and a few generations later maybe ghettos will become safe.

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>>55518633
he took it hook, line, and sinker boys!

This is without a doubt, the worst thread on /g/

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>>55518633
people born 75+ years ago were also much dumber than you are
people born 75+ years ago thought inhaling burning plant matter until you got used to it was healthy
people born today are also much smarter than you are
people born today also think inhaling burning plant matter until you get used to it can be beneficial to your healthy

really makes you think

>>55518633
>>55518662
Dunce cunts
>>55518670
Definitely

>>55518670
>OS war threads
>maki threads
>general general generals

>>55518576
>Being for progress doesn't mean being for anything other than progress.
Your definition of progress and how to go about it,
and the same progress conservitards seek and the way they go about it,
is the same.
Horeshoe Theory best proven through feminism which has too much in common with conservatism.
From being anti-sex, to being anti-individualist, to being defined by collectivization and categorization (ergo it is called feminism) even though such a system is contrary to egalitarianism,
to defaming and bullying people over their choice of fashion (the probe scientist) like those religious police in the Middle East do,
to using moral and ethical rules (progressivism) to justify, excuse, and leverage, being control freaks and stifling anyone and anything not working exactly as their book rules dictate or not being part of their back-patting collective (especially moderates who are the biggest threat to feminism).

You and the conservitards you are butthurt about are part of the same coin.
The same fucking coin. You just justify your egomania and savior complexes with a slightly different modified wording of the same moral and ethical superiority complex shit.

>>55518677
Don't forget that chocolate can kill dogs, so we should all stop eating chocolate because it can thus kill us too.

>>55503919
Yes. I mean we had the transistor by then.

>>55510505
It's a hollow cube. What now.

>>55518720
simple form
>conservative
we're preserving society by oppressing you
>progressive
we're improving society by oppressing you

>>55518746
we are all dogs at heart

but not at penis

shame

>>55503931
It's time for this meme to die.

>>55518720
But I do not prone any of these things, senpai.

All I stand for is equal opportunities and positive/affirmative models for women. These are causes of their own. It is unfair to assimilate it to all the bullshit that gets in the subset of feminist causes because they do not value freedom. It is destructive to assimilate it as so, because these fights are not yet won, we still have to fight them, and dismissing them as liberticide over screenshots of retarded shit tumblrinas post is completely retarded.

The solution to feminists ruining feminism is not to be against feminism. It's fixing feminism. If you oppose feminism as a whole, you stand for regression. Even if that's not what you personally want, it will be the result thereof.

>>55518767
Just assume that he's using the plural "you" to refer to humanity as a whole.

>>55516093
Nobody is saying 9/11 didn't happen, they're saying the government or the Jews or both did it

>>55518773
so you stand for shit we already have and oppressing women who don't stand for values you agree with

right

also if you're not with an arbitrary label that carries too much baggage you're not just against the arbitrary label, you're with hitler

>tumblrs

>>55516247
Oh yeah? Can you prove it?
Those so called "photos" of the towers burning were obviously staged.

>>55518773
>All I stand for is equal opportunities and positive/affirmative models for women.
That's not equality, that's radicalism.

Equality requires shedding gender as a category and treating people as individuals.
Feminism is just the act of using equality as an excuse to relegate it into a soccer match team division where it roots for one team and acts against the other with the social tact of a soccer riot.

I'm sorry, but in order to fix feminism, you have to disassociate it from categorization.
And you can't do that because the source of all problems in feminism sources from the name itself (feminism).
A name that encourages categorization and gender division, and inherently leads towards it.

You want to fix it? You destroy it and go back to egalitarianism.
Much like most people are doing these days who have turned from feminism in the past 4 years, as well as all the "women against feminism" who are massively increasing in numbers.
This case is one of the rare cases where nomenclature change actually makes a fucking difference and has long-term symbolic effect that projects onto the mentality of the members.

>>55518785
shit man this post is gold, perfect 10/10 spin

i should do interviews

>>55518777
Seriously though this shit meme needs to die.

If you're using that logic, then no one could take credit for the moon landing. Human technology is an ongoing build up of the knowledge of our ancestors. Without electricity, they wouldn't have had their computers in the first place, so how can they claim any responsibility for it? For the most part, our family lines and each individual person has played their role in the world and that is how humans got to the moon.

Or even the farmers who grew the food to ensure the scientists could even survive long enough do the moon landing in the first place. The entire country played a role in making it happen, one way or another. So stop getting so fucking TRIGGERED by the word we

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>>55503919
Spaceflight is not that computationally expensive, you can do most of the math in your head, and many astronauts have and continue to have to do it.

Besides, the kind of gear that would have been available to a large, well-funded organization like NASA in 1969 weren't even that primitive, really. They had fleets of 36-bits like the IBM 7090 series, probably some DEC systems, maybe even some early supercomputers like the CDC 6600.

>>55518785
women do not yet feel allowed to take all the space in society which they have the potential to take. there is a lot of self-esteem issues with women that are propagated and maintained by our collective consciousness.

you see big employers keep numbers of how many women they hire, yes. but in smaller businesses, it's the far west, and it's not uncommon for managers to be quite literally sexist pigs. this is speaking from my own and from close ones' experience

there are a lot of women raised to believe they can't fill in important roles in society. almost as worst is believing that it is "special" to do so, that it is a "statement", because then they have to choose between being discrete and liked or living their whole life as a "statement". We are far from that era where women are just like men in the job market, they're just... there, it's not a special thing, it's not a thing that needs to be force, that speaks of anything about society, it's just that. This hasn't happened yet and it needs to be brought about.

That you think the legit fight for equality is over and that the only possible things feminism can accomplish are liberticide shows that you lack imagination and the good faith to see the problem for what it is.

Because it's inconvenient for you to admit that sexism is still alive and well.

Because you're a dude and because you have no empathy.

>>55518806
>>All I stand for is equal opportunities and positive/affirmative models for women.
>That's not equality, that's radicalism.
I stopped reading there. How the fuck is that radicalism you dumb fuck? Jesus. Those are the most neoliberal takes on feminism: Give women the same opportunities as men, they'll take them if they can manage. Give women positive models so they figure out their place in society with the same positive baggage men have.

It's the softest, freest approach to feminism.

If you are against that, you are just a traditionalist retard and I'm not gonna entertain you.

>>55518829
Okay, so women are inferior to men and so emotionally fragile that they need a literal hugbox society to do anything but become a career fucktoy AKA married woman. The slightest psychological adversity causes those worthless overgrown little girls to crumble while strong, noble men get angry and punch it in the face. God, why are men so consistently good at life without having to be coddled? Women suck, men are awesome, nerf men.

>>55518843
>I stopped reading there.
>I read the rest, and because i'm too butthurt and have no argument i'm gonna just act against the first sentence
Noice.

Radicalism is the act of one-sided bias. Everything you said is merely a convenient excuse for keeping a one-sided bias.
Ironically, you are the one being traditionalist about feminism and are more interested in keeping your back-patting movement's image stainless than you are in actually fixing your own brain.

>>55518576
>My point was just that women should be allowed to have IT jobs
there is no law preventing women from holding IT jobs. so what the fuck are you going on about?

typical nu-male white-knight faggot.

>>55518876
He is trying to twist reality to support his own delusions and ideology in order to have an excuse to feed his savior complex and ego.

>>55505914
You can't see gravity either. BTFO

>>55518853
No. Women are raised to be that way. It's heavily implanted in our culture.

Even in early childhood, little girls are often taught they have to smile all the time and not throw tantrums whereas it's seen as natural for boys to be stoic, on top of shit and occasionally lose their shit.

The culture most people grew in presented men as heroes and women as damsels in distress. It changed a lot over the past two decades, but even then, we're hardly done: Positive female models are "special", they're "statements". They're a fucking huge deal to emulate because it requires being tough and going against the odds.

You take that confidence you have for granted, but, it seriously is not. A lot of people have it beaten out of them throughout their upbringing, and moreso women than men.

>>55518876
I responded to a guy who said they didn't belong in IT jobs because they were biologically inferior in that field.

>>55518853
lol this post is so gay

>>55518843
Women have equal opportunity

It is your own damn fault that you break down into an existential crisis about being just a statement or some dumb shit that crawled out of the bleeding vagina of flawed thought

Meanwhile, actual women, not nerdy bitches, are getting jobs and being their own people while you repeat the same whines as countless spoiled teenage boys who want to be special snowflakes and live their dreams or whatever.

or maybe you're actually one of those whiny limp dicked faggots and are projecting your low self esteem onto women

ever think that they just don't want to write web pages with you, eugene? that they're not too insecure to, that they just think it's fuckign dumb? that maybe they're more into chemistry with chad?

>>55518894
ok this is another gay post

>>55518864
I'm setting the right example against radicalism, by just not being radical, that requires effort, and making distinctions. Opposing radicalism makes it stronger and angrier so it's counter productive all the while nullifying all efforts for positive change.

You're throwing the baby with the bath water. Why? Because the baby is questioning your status and because it's easy and requires literally no thinking, except the rare moment you are faced with your own bullshit and have to rationalize it.

>>55518886
So it's pretty much confirmed that this is an autistic dude who thinks he understands how women think, right?

Sounds more like he's trying to project his own little identity problem with being a "failed male" onto women like it explains them not choosing the super cool jobs that are desirable to dudes and therefore must be desirable and "objectively" good choices. Fuck man, I bet this guy actually believes in "value to society" and "human progress". What a fucking dweeb.

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>>55518894
>All that projection
Wow you turned back into a /pol/tard pretty fast when I started explaining to you, rationally and logically, how women still had progress to make. The truth hurts.

>>55518919
Yes, all of this is literally about me not being able to get my dick wet. Because that's all your tiny mind can fathom, it's the only thing other men can really care about.

Or you're a degenerate.

>>55518914
>You're throwing the baby with the bath water.
The baby is egalitarianism. The stinky water is the feminism which uses egalitarianism's goal as excuses to act biased towards women. The definition of radicalism.
It's not a case of me throwing the baby with the water.
It's a case of you additionally pissing in the water and making the baby even more poisoned by filth.

>>55518944
All you explained is that you think very lowly of women and haven't talked to any of them outside of your fellow loser nerds

Losers are losers with low self esteem, more at 11. Next time, come back once you have experience with women who are actually worth a shit. The majority of women who can get jobs, hold jobs, and enjoy their jobs because they enjoy them and not because they're trying to meet a standard. Yes, the majority. Not the nerd minority you can relate to, loser.

>>55518864
>fixing your own brain
>expecting a human to realize he's wrong
>ever
I don't think you quite understand how clingy people get about their ideas.
Like, do you remember utterly losing an argument? The painfully slow moment of realization when it dawns on you that everything you believed in was wrong, and that even though the other guy is a complete asshole and you want to punch him, he's also right. That's what changing your mind feels like. It's horrible, and most people will go to considerable lengths to avoid ever feeling it.

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>feminism
>equality

>a movement that enforces gender categorization and is more focused on one group of people instead of treating everyone equally and focusing on everyone, which results in bias, which results in radicalism
>equality

No chap. You don't get to pull the same shit religious fundamentalist groups pull to justify their existence.
People are now smarter than to fall for that shit.

>>55518953
I have stood against all legitimate blames against feminism and only stood for equal opportunity and good role models. You're the one forcing the association between feminism and tumblrinas like it is an imperative.

You're playing the tumblrina's game.

You are the toxic one.

Egalitarism will not be welcomed into the fight for women because it is a sneaky way to insert fedoMRAs and their special snowflake fear of the "genocide against men" into the deck, through which enters traditionalists, conservatards and all other liberticide assholes that have no place in this movement.

>>55518962
I don't think lowly of women. And for the most part, I don't think women I work with have these kind of issues. The issue is how little women I work with. That makes no sense. I'm pretty sure there were a lot of women who would have been IT geniuses but who grew up with preconceived notions that pushed them away from that. I hold these women with higher esteem that they have for themselves, whereas you think they're at their rightful place. So there's that.

>>55518994
$5 says this poster also speaks of biological differences between the sexes and races

>humans
>equality

>>55518988
no not really because arguments worth anything are when two parties equally attempt to find common ground they both consider valid. being "bested" in an argument is about as painful as learning a new skill, that is unless you take it personally ;)

>>55518994
This
>>55519009
I would take that bet. Odds are he is a rational human with a basic understanding of fundamental biology.

>>55518988
Uhhhh no I don't remember this because I don't have autism.

Jesus Christ you must be fragile.

>>55519006
Maybe most women make sounder decisions in life and pursue careers that have fewer dead ends and confer more social status? Ever consider that?

Ever think that women look at IT, know they could be good at it, but think it would be a waste of time? That it's better left to other people? Ever had that feeling about a career path, ever? You probably have.

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>>55519027
>le women have ovaries therefore they can't into c++ meme

This is taking an interesting turn. Equalitarism sure has an elastic definition of equality.

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>>55519009
I don't care about sexes and races, i have better things to do.
The only women that matter in my life are my mother, my gf, my sister, and the female friends i have. The rest of womanity can go fuck itself. Same goes in terms of males.

I do care though, when hypocrites try to put on veils and their complete bullshit starts impacting my entertainment mediums.
Fuck with a man's entertainment and you are fucking with the one of the things keeping him sane outside of the job.

What the fuck is going on in here? I thought we were celebrating human kinds technological achievement while figuring out how we can make our /g/ backed space ship.

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>thread ostensibly about cool analog instrumentation technology used by NASA in the 60s/70s
>very much about technology
>thread derails into a "hurrr women no good at science and math fuqin sjws hurrrr" typical /r9k/ gamergate circlejerk for virgins who can't get laid
this board is trash, delete it and start again please hiro

>>55519016
That's not an argument, that's a discussion. Arguments are when two people who both know they are RIGHT try to convince the other that he is WRONG.
If you don't get into arguments, well, I feel like you're missing out on something but I can't honestly claim it's worth it.

>>55519052
I never said that. I said that there are biological differences between races and sexes. Never implied what any of those may be other than biological configuration.

Im not even the same anon

>>55519006
>Egalitarism will not be welcomed into the fight for women because it is a sneaky way to insert fedoMRAs and their special snowflake fear of the "genocide against men" into the deck, through which enters traditionalists, conservatards and all other liberticide assholes that have no place in this movement.

Allow me to re-translate this sentence for any of you with a sound mind:
Feminism is to Egalitarianism what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity or Al-Qaeda is to Islam.

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>>55519049
So, I'm saying women have a widespread self-esteem problem (which would be perceivable to you if you opened your fucking eyes) and your response is to put them on a pedestal where they consider lucrative careers a "waste of time" and they just know better.

Yeah it's like all those girls in high school who dismissed you playing pokemon as waste of time, right? They just got that heel right on your balls. Because of evil feminists.

This is starting to get funny.

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>>55519006
>Atheism will not be welcomed into the fight for christianity/islam because it is a sneaky way to insert heretics and their special snowflake fear of the "genocide against atheists" into the deck, through which enters heretic, pagan and all other anti-religious assholes that have no place in this movement.

>>55519079
I'm saying they don't, and that your favorite career isn't lucrative, or significant, and may in fact be making things worse, and that your refusal to believe that women might dislike it for what it is rather than for the sake of flaws they supposedly have might be related to some form of sexism (expecting women to be men with tits)

And now I'm considering the possibility that it might be related to jobber's remorse, and that you're jealous of those "insecure" women who aren't code monkeys, cable monkeys, and help desk monkeys.

>>55519075
>Feminism is to Egalitarianism what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity or Al-Qaeda is to Islam.
That is an opinion senpai.

Feminism was never meant to be anything more than a fight for equality. People who make it anything else do so because they're insane or because it's convenient to them that feminism fails to get popular support.

It's like saying conservatism is the Westboro Baptist Church. Conservatism in itself has precedence on lunatic religious zealots. Feminism has precedence on man-hating feminazis.

>>55519070
well as we've seen here, most people argue with all the accuracy and focus of a machine gun spraying bullets. just a shit ton of bullshit definitions and assumptions being put in a blender with personal histories and prejudice.

I feel like a real "argument" would almost consist of pure math or logic. most arguments exist because the people arguing aren't even agree on what they're arguing about at a basic level, so you're right, I don't often get into them

as they say,

THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS
FACTS DON'T COME WITH POINTS OF VIEW

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>>55519079
>this is starting to get funny
>heh, heh
>*cracks his knuckles then pulls on his collar for air nervously*

>>55519114
>Feminism was never meant to be anything more than a fight for control, using equality as an excuse.

Re-translated for any of you with a sound mind.

>>55519049
>and confer more social status

think you'd slip that meme in real sly didn't ya?

>>55519112
It's just a coincidence that women are so much wiser as to choose to be stay at home wives, nurses who clean the shit off old fat people, secretaries with dead end depressing jobs, waitresses who get sexually harassed by their boss and/or customers, and men get all the administrative and/or creative positions that make the big salaries and the big decisions.

Those sneaky feminazis really fucked us over with that whole "lucrative career" trap. They got it good and we the dumb work monkeys have to stay at a desk 8.5 HOURS AT A TIME making ONLY $20-40 an hour sitting on our asses and making dick jokes with our colleagues.

Fuck this unfair world.

>>55519127
>more opinions
>completely ignore my attempt at reasoning with them

You're clearly hysterical and must be having your meriod. (man period)

>>55503919
Of course.
Surprisingly, you don't need GBs of ram and dozens of GHzs to navigate a rocket. You just need good engineers who will design, program and test everything.

>>55516939
I think that my female coworkers are reliable examples of what woman do in IT.
There are few average but most of them sucks. I've never meet woman who is a real good programmer and hobbyist and not just average retard who get into IT just because muh good salary instead of real passion for programming.

>>55519140
yes

code monkey

>>55519149
>All this false dichotomy
I'll remember you when a man takes my order at burger king while his woman manager hangs around doing pretty much nothing

>muh wages
I bet you're in a metro area where that wage is the practical equivalent of making $10 an hour in bumfuck, MT.

>>55519112
better a cardio bunny than a help desk monkey

>>55519177
Reminder that I'm having this argument just because I told someone off for saying women were biologically inferior for IT jobs. Your crusade for equality is on a solid base, bro.

>>55519160
Your reasoning is that you have no mind of your own, and need feminism to dictate what's right and what's wrong to you,
and because you have been infected by Stockholm Syndrom by feminism,
you need to make feminism look as good as possible even though you are the same as the MRA's you are constantly butthurt about.

It must be tough seeing society, both in real life and on the Internet, shunning feminism more and more.
Sadly you can't stop it, no matter how much you try to pull No True Scotsman on feminism, and no matter how much you attempt to re-define feminism in a convenient manner that justifies you clinging to that cancer.

>>55519194
I'm having this argument because I'm bored and out of beer

also i have a vagina shocking plot twist

>>55519114
>Feminism was never meant to be anything more than a fight for equality.
Some people seem to disagree with you. Right in this very thread.
>>55519006
>Egalitarism will not be welcomed into the fight for women

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>>55519209
I'm having this argument because I thought this thread was going to be about spaceships but instead there was this argument.
THIS IS ALL I HAVE LEFT.

>>55519228
I'm not a feminist, I just like the porn

First it was the "demons and heretics" among us.
Then it was the "lizard aliens" among us.
Afterwards it was the "Government mind-control waves".
Then it was the "The Jews control everything".

And now in the present, Feminism consolidates all the aforementioned into the "Patriarchy", and becomes the ultimate tin-foil hat/conspiracy theory/inquisition movement in Human history.

Feminists really do have too much in common with /pol/, and that's the perfect place for them.

And don't forget kids, don't play video games with sexualized female characters. That's the Patriarchy trying to mind-control you to hate women and trying to assimilate you into the patriarchal league of lizard aliens!

>>55519209
>having a vagina is a legitimate reason to deny the existence of systemic sexism

Nope. Equal opportunity means you get to be considered a fedora wearing lardo if you speak like one. Isn't feminism great?

>>55519200
1. I'm not a woman
2. Saying general culture gives you negative thinking habits isn't saying you have "no mind of your own". For fuck's sake, learn some basic psychology.

You and I are dudes, right? When was the last time you cried. Did you feel at least a bit of background shame as you cried? Why? There's nothing inherently wrong with crying. It's an infantile survival mechanism that sometimes gets triggered during adulthood in overwhelming situations. OH. BUT WHY DID YOU FEEL ASHAMED THEN? DON'T YOU HAVE A MIND OF YOUR OWN YOU DUMB FUCKING HOUSE PLANT?

>>55519286
I would say that feminism is the boogey man. Patriarchy is something a minority of loud feminists use as their boogeyman, but people who point at feminism claiming it's an anti-man conspiracy that's gaining a dangerous amount of power are all over the fucking place.

You'd be more aware of that if your political education didn't come only from feminism threads on /b/.

>>55519211
Obviously, I meant that replacing the word "feminism" with "egalitarism" to appease the fears of fedoras that evil womyn will take over the world was the wrong way, not that fighting for equality (for both men and women) was wrong.

Fighting for equality for both men and women is already one of the definitions of feminism. Hence, if you reject the word to replace it with "egalitarism", you are effectively trying to poison the movement with MRA and their bullshit self-victimization spiel.

The movement is already poisoned enough as it is, don't you think?

>>55519291
>1. I'm not a woman
Nobody said you were. I think you have some kind of complex going here.
You are just your average white dude with a white savior complex who suffers from guilt-tripping and spends his time crying and being emotional over irrelevant shit all the time.
It's understandable why feminism has such a sway over you.
You never had a mother in your life, so you are now treating feminism as your mother figure and compensating.

Now, treating someone who would abort you as a mother figure ain't exactly the best choice,
but then again i am pro-abortion if it means some children can be given mercy from having to grow up in the miserable environment of a feminist.

>>55516897

Things can be shielded against them.

>>55519314
so what has sway over you?

>>55519314
>Projecting your inability to have genuine empathy for others
>Everyone who defends people they are not a part of must be after something else, because that would be my case

You are emotionally stunted anon-kun. Don't make it other people's problems. Normal people are able to see people being in unfavorable positions and say "That isn't right" instead of "WELL IT'S THEIR CHOICE LOL"

>>55519333
Survival, family, putting food on the plate for my family.

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>it's over
>just kidding senpai its only getting started desu

>>55519338
>Normal people
Normal people reveal their disposition towards helping others when they are faced with choosing between their family and others.
See Syria as an example. Your normal people are fleeing it instead of helping the people there who are in shit and fighting against the enemy instead of letting it survive longer.

Altruism only exists from the comfort of a chair in front of a computer.

>>55519357
a president's speech only exists from behind the comfort of his podium

>>55506798

i bet 99% are comments

>>55518263
All this could mean is that nobody else has had the balls to ask her out, just hoping they'll hang out long enough for her to.

Dont buy her shit, dont do things for her without some kind of repayment (for example: dont just help her with an assignment, do it but shed have to buy you lunch in return), and maybe ask her out, and youll rise above all that shit

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>>55519371
And a good president's speech exists when you tie a sword to a thread and hang it over the president's head while he's on the podium.
Now you are getting it anon.

>>55519379

no women are crafty, especially asian ones

they can still have a boyfriend and ten thousand orbiters

also gaymers and programmers are worse than your average beta due to the scarcity of women in that area

>>55519357
You're exaggerating. Survival instincts kick in in times of danger or great risk, and then it is the natural reaction to be selfish since it is the only means of survival anyway. But that is supposed to be a specific state. People who are always selfish are stuck in survival mode because they are insecure and hence, emotionally stunted.

You're basically just saying that I'm only a feminist because I want to get my dick wet which shows that you think like a scumbag, that you're incapable of thinking otherwise, because you are a scumbag. There is no way you'll convince me otherwise at this point. You made a good case of it. kek

>>55518359
>says you're done talking about it

>>55518341
>makes another post about it anyway

>>55519397
So just don't be the orbiter. Make it clear your time is valuable. You could just be that one boyfriend in the sea of orbiters, if only you actually act on it.

By the way, one more reminder before bed: You guys are arguing with me because I replied to someone who said women didn't belong in IT.

You want to know why "moderate" feminists don't want to make the switch to "equalitarism"?

Because you shitstains are the ones representing equalitarism. The people who are trying to pull the movement in this direction always turn out to have an MRA and/or conservative agenda. You are the living proof of this. You faggots got triggered because I told off someone for literally saying "Women are less suited for tech positions biologically". No need to wonder why your movement has it hard. The evidence is right there.

>>55519398
>You're basically just saying that I'm only a feminist because I want to get my dick wet
No. I'm saying you are a feminist because you need someone to pat your back and think for you because you suffer from irrational guilt-tripping, and because you suffer from a savior complex.
There's a fine line between empathy and all-out patronization, and you being part of the feminist movement is a clear step over that line.

If you were about equality, you wouldn't need a stupid label, and you wouldn't put so much importance on a stupid labeling.
You'd just treat everyone as individuals and do shit.

But you don't treat people as individuals and you don't do shit,
so your mind is more set on defending some empty social construct like "Feminism" and trying to make your little church look good.

>>55519409

i'm in monk mode right now, i don't know the more i understand about women the less interest i have in them

>>55518576
>My point was just that women should be allowed to have IT jobs. Jesus fuck.
Answer me this:

Has anyone in this thread actually said they shouldn't be?

>>55519433
>i'm in monk mode right now, i don't know the more i understand about women the less interest i have in them

Welcome to the great folly of learning science anon. The more you unravel about the world, the less interesting it becomes, the more depressed you get.

>>55518576
>and women to be allowed to hold jobs that require skills if they can pull it off.
See, we agree too. We just realize that the majority of women can't pull it off. Some can, and they should be rewarded and allowed. But most simply won't. They won't be interested, or they won't do well. You see a gender gap as inexcusable when the reality is that even with no prejudice at all whatsoever, you're still never going to see women in this field at the same rate as men.

>>55519432
No actually I don't care to use the word for myself and I don't "show off" my opinions except where I'm anonymous. I just think fighting against the word is destructive, futile, and mostly an MRA's fight. Those are facts. Deal with it.

>>55519436
>Has anyone in this thread actually said they shouldn't be?
Holy shit.
>>55517564

That's the post that started all of this. Idiot.

>>55519445
Saying they're less suited does not say they should be wholesale barred. This is your own projection.

>>55519445
That's my post. You have to be insane to interpret it as
> women should not be allowed to have IT jobs

Read it again. I am against unfair bias for hiring women in place of men.

>>55519312
But that's literally what "egalitarianism" means. And what "feminism" does not literally mean.

I see what you meant, though. I agree it's silly to demand that a movement rename itself. Maybe not technically incorrect, but definitely missing the point. The ultimate grammar nazi move.

>>55519444
The gender gap is due because women don't think they deserve to have a successful career because they see nobody succeeding at it, or the few models they have are usually neurotic bitches who are in it to "prove something to the man".

That was my point all along.

We have role models literally spoonfed to us our entire life. They do not. This is a big, big problem. You don't see it because you take the effect these role models had on you for granted.

>>55519457
You think hiring as many women as men is an "unfair bias" because you think women are less capable of it.

This is literally, fucking textbook misogyny.

We can't be having this argument for real. This is fucking absurd.

>>55519473
>You think hiring as many women as men is an "unfair bias" because you think women are less capable of it.
When you have to pick the unskilled woman who obviously only took one of those "coding for women" shitty bootcams over the male with a degree in computer engineering due to these enforced equality quotas, yes, it is an unfair bias.

>>55519473
Thinking that women and men statistically have different capacities for doing different tasks is not misogyny. There is strong scientific evidence in favor of this.

>>55519473
The gender gap is simply due to lack of interest. Period. Discrimination if any is not in hiring processes at all, it is in the low levels of school where kids decide what they like and don't like. They just aren't being told about computing much.

Funnily enough, most teachers in that area are also female, so in a way, females are the ones dissuading females from getting into tech.

>>55519433
That's one way to see it. But the way I see it, the girl is just taking advantage of free shit. I mean, why not? As worldly as you feel right now, wouldn't you want to get shit for little to no effort if it was possible for you?

Think of what defines a beta orbiter. It is them being happy to give out their time while getting none of hers in return. This itself exhudes a lack of confidence, because it's like someone doesn't value their own time, and it's what makes it easy for girls to disregard them.

This is how you become different. Don't hand out your time for free.

>>55518884
>You can't see gravity either. BTFO
You can see a fat bitch falling on her ass if you push her. That's visuable gravity.