/hpg/ - Headphone General

those tohos have big heads

>>55323665

>>55323527
Don't be a faggot. Wait until bump limit before making a new thread, OP.

>>55323527

>Budget
$100.00
>Location
United States
>Source
iMac
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized, wireless if possible.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Extremely comfortable, but without sacrificing sound quality,
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care.
>Past headphones
I had a pair of nice Bose headphones a while back, I forgot the name of them, though. I had a pair of Beats, and a Turtle Beach Elite 800x, which could connect to my iMac via Bluetooth.

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Posting here because last thread at bump limit.

>>55307801
>but I don't like being asked to rubber stamp someone's poor purchasing choices.
Sure, I don't exactly care for reviewing others' purchases either but you can have an honestly good question about a certain headphone which boils down into asking our opinion on them. I rarely bother replying to simple "is this good" -kind of questions and heck, I've filtered all the "how'd I do /g/" -posts and threads anyway because I don't want to see them but being too anal about some thread rules which aren't even agreed on fully is silly.

I think having a some note about etiquette in the OP would be fine. Basically wording what there is a bit differently. And a note that we have guides in the Wiki wouldn't hurt.

>>55311187
The neutral options for closed headphones are in lower price points. But if you have that budget MSR7 is worth considering. Not strictly neutral but not too far off either.

>>55311425
Good comfort, some supposedly sound alright but I haven't had an audition nor have I ever seen a graph. Mics are bad and they tend to be plastic fantastic. The general headset recommendation here is the HyperX Cloud. A warm sounding closed back headphone with a detachable mic. It's good value.

>>55311894
Can't think of any to match your criteria. If you can Monoprice 8323 perhaps if you can buy the thing over there? There's nothing really neutral and comfy. Superlux HD-681 might be the most neutral pair you could get but they aren't comfy.

>>55318369
M40X is a solid choice. Other options to consider would be Sennheiser HD 280 Pro(beware of clamp) and MDR-7056 if you like neutral.

>>55323665
Superlux EVO is not really comfortable and it's extremely bassy. Neutral and comfy don't really happen in that price point but Sennheiser HD 429 is a solid option.

>>55324332
The hd429 are around 80 euros and the hd429s are 65
You think i should wait and save up a bit more?

Most difficult question ever: DT880 600 Ohm or HD600?

>Budget
175 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
PC with Realtek ALC1150 audio chipset
>Preferred type of headphone
full-size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy guy inside pref
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't really know but neutral seems safe
>Past headphones
N/A

Preferably something that doesn't need an amp because I ain't got shit. If you can somehow still fit it in the budget go for it I guess.

>>55325358
DT880 250

>>55325264
You mean HD 451 and HD 429?

>>55325358
Easy when you know what you want and have heard both. HD 600 for me.

>>55325809
Why HD600?

>>55325976
No sibilance, really good upper mid response and smoother response overall. I also prefer the clamp/snug fit.

>>55326055
According to most graphs, DT880 600 Ohm shouldn't be sibilant..

>>55326136
It's essentially the same as any other modern DT880 sound wise.

www.beyerdynamic.com
/thread

>>55326183
Niceme.me!

>>55323688
Nothing is really that neutral, and not at that price either. Get a new headphone if you like, and learn how to use a parametric EQ.
My vote among those two is the EVO, which is on the bassy side.

>>55323934
If you would regularly connect via Bluetooth, then bluetooth would be source.
My suggestion is the Mee Air-Fi Matrix 2.

>>55325399
ATH-MSR7 seems the nearest fit. Like so.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OTAE2B0/

>>55324332
I don't adhere to the OP as a rule or as guideline.
Was going to edit OP more, but couldn't think of how to make all the appropriate changes on the spot.

>>55325358
HD600, it's objectively more neutral, thus making it better.

Time to get some popcorn to watch the butthurt beyershills justify their purchase because they couldn't afford HD600s.

>>55326669
""""neutral"""", you say?

k702 master race reporting in

>>55326711
>implying the K702 is anywhere near neutral

jajajajajajajajajajaja

>Budget
100$, 120$ if absolutely necessary
>Location
Chile, can import from the US without tax tho
>Source
Cellphone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
gotta be comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced, don't mind V-shaped
>Past headphones
DT880, something similar would be great

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Lads, is it worth upgrading to the DT880 600 Ohm from the DT770 250 Ohm? Please help. I suppose I could go with the MSR7 or K702 as well

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Please help lads, my indecisiveness is killing me

>>55323934
zx770bt

Anybody here tried the new akg k72 or k92? Poorfag here

>>55326831
VSonic VSD3 of VSD5. But it is sibilant like a Beyerdynamic DT990. So only good for low to moderate volume. If you listen with higher volume it sounds terrible.

>>55326953
>Is it worth going from DT770 to DT880?
Yes, closer to neutral, better stage, just as comfortable.

Best headphones for 70$? Preferably bluetooth

Is this good (Soundpeats qy7)
https://www.amazon.com/SoundPEATS-Bluetooth-Headphones-Cancelling-Sweatproof/dp/B00PEPIWNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467243976&sr=8-1&keywords=Soundpeats+qy7

I mostly listen to classical

>>55323753
He's a stupid weaboo, he has to force his shitty anime threads

>>55328364
Welcome to 4chan. There are plenty of people here who use anime for their OP that do not post before hitting the bump limit.

>>55323527
That image fucking sucks, where's the curly wire for the MDR-V6's?

>>55328510
it has been replaced
http://www.head-fi.org/t/606937/sony-mdr-v6-detachable-cable-mod

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Is the DT880 600 Ohm version the best can at the $200 mark?

Whats the ATH-M50 of soundcards?

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>>55328692
ASUS Xonar U7

>>55326953
Why the 600 ohm? If you say damping factor or little FR wiggles, please reconsider.
In general, they have more than a few similarities. I can't get behind picking one headphone over another just for the tuning.
I wouldn't advise it unless you wanted an open headphone specifically, which I find hard to envision.

>>55326831
Would you like a lot of isolation, or less?
On the brighter side is something like the Rockit R50, and it might be the nearest fit.
Fiio EX1 and Vsonic GR07 have less isolation.

>>55328293
A headphone would be something like the Air-Fi Matrix 2
Something in-ear is the LG HBS-900.

>>55328778
looks good, thanks

>>55328674
>can
>>>/r/headphones

>>55328827
How good is that compared to a Skullcandy hesh 2

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>>55328908

>He thinks im rebbit

>>55328827
I simply am looking to upgrade headphones, and I was told that the 880 600 Ohm is better than the 770 250 Ohm in most every way. Is this true?

>>55326831
MA750

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I would like a pair that would be able to play this without losing any of the minor details, such as the drums, while still having emphasis on the bass: https://youtu.be/glVtFGDd8zw

Thanks in advance

>Budget
175
>Location
United States
>Source
PC/Windows
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Moderately
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped
>Past headphones
Gimmicky 7.1 logitech/Corsair gaming headphones wired as well as wireless. The filters and effects just don't work as well for the price tag and everything sounds off.

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Sansui G-7500 fag here. I mentioned how I found one in a dumpster (maybe a week ago?). well today I found a turntable at the same place behind their store (electronics disposal company)

It works! At first I thought it might be broken due to a loud hiss I was getting no matter what source I fed it, but after an hour or so I realized it wasn't grounded.

Tested out the AKG Q 701 I bought on /hgg/'s recommendation & it's outstanding. I listened to my first record of all time today. It was the best of queen which I spent $1.00 at a Garage sale on. Thank for making this possible /g/

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>>55329264

Adding on to that; what's the best way for me to clear up the sound on this old Queen record I have? I've heard everything from brushes to get dust off, to guns that remove the magnetic charge the disc might have. where would I start getting the best sound out of it?

>>55329264

Oh shit nigger, I given a Lafayette LR3500 studio receiver. Can I use that to drive headphones, or is it simply for listening to records

>>55329552

The turntable I have is feeding the sound through Red/White Stereo cords, & it has a PHONE port (all the way on the bottom left on my picture) All I did was plug the AKG Q 701 into the PHONE port & it just works.

Sounds beautiful. BTW, not talking about a regular headphone jack. It has to be one of those huge ones or you won't be able to feed it anything. My AKG Q 701 had two sets of cords so I just used the bigger one.

I wonder if feeding a super Nintendo into this thing would be sacrilegious.

>>55329634

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Thanks a lot man

>>55326350
Are the MSR7s really a viable choice for closed ended?

>>55328934
Vs. the Hesh 2? Been a while since I had a listen to that one.
More clear/more highs.
Some more bass, and bit less subbass.

>>55328964
How should I put it? If I didn't need the isolation, I would pick the DT880. If I did, I wouldn't miss the DT880 listening to a DT770. But that's my preference.
The 880 reigns in the highs some, and reduces the bass level generally, to that extent that DT880 lacks some subbass. DT770 has a bit of low mid suckout common to closed headphones that DT880 doesn't have.

I find soundstage one of the more annoying subjects to talk about. It relates to the FR, which you can control. It might relate to the shape of the headphone, which you can see. It does depend on your mind, which is suggestible. And after hundreds of headphones, none have the "expansive" soundstage an audiophile reviewer might wax about.

>>55329327
Magnetism? Electrostatic charge is one thing, but *magnetism*?
There be a specialized brush for removing dust. I don't think any typical household cleaning solution is good for the life of the record.

On another note, people leave all sorts of gear behind in their apartments. TVs, speakers, receivers. A friend of mine picked up multiple DSD players and some McIntosh gear for it.

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>>55329680
>magnetism

I'm retarded. Meant electrostatic charge.

>>55329912

Which amp would you choose to match the 880? Would the Magni 2 suffice?

Any /hpg/ related items worth buying in China? Other than custom molds.

Memephone 702 so comfy :3

>>55329941
magni 2 or o2 will be fine for the 600ohm beyers

>>55329971
memephone 702 kindof sucks: ever since getting them, I can't listen to classical music, since everyone sounds like a retard

>>55329971
>>55330125
also the band is a little tight on the top of my head. maybe my ego is just garbage or something.

>>55329872
Cozy fit is not totally there, as with most portable headphones. Having said that, it fits "neutral" the closest of the closed sets on the market. Its sensitivity is fairly high, so that it can be powered from just about any device (excluding other potential issues mobo headamps have).

The larger DT770 would be an improvement in comfort, but it is more distinctly V-shaped. You can fix it with parametric EQ, and I advise you to at least try to learn how to use one either way.
Down the price scale, the Brainwavz HM5/NVX XPT100, which have a bit of bass boost to them.


>>55329941
You don't match an amplifier, you just pick one that works well and does the things that you want and has the inputs and outputs you use.
Magni 2 will work nicely, particularly for less sensitive headphones. Beyers fit that, but why get the amplifier now?


>>55329956
See if you can find cheap Hifiman headphones priced like they are built?
Find a set of knockoff NOS tubes and sell it to crazy audiophiles?

>>55323527

those two have some massive heads

Anyone with experience mind weighing in here? I'm considering both the NVX XPT100 and the ATH-MSR7 for my first pair of real headphones. Is the quality difference noticeable to most people? Both are widely reviewed to be quite good but I assume that's for their respective prices. Surely there's a difference between $80 and $200 headphones, but how significant is it to the uninitiated?

I need real clarification on the akg k7xx.

Z reviews says its a great headphones.

You guys keep saying it is trash compare to other k7##s

I need the truth.

>>55326831

how can you import to chile without tax?

>>55330759
I'm afraid that with headphones, there is no substitute for either listening yourself, or having people whose opinions you trust.

I'm guessing you're trying to save some money and get k7xx rather than k702?

Anyway, one way to get something semi-objective is to see who is talking about what. For instance, k7xx is absolutely _not_ marketed at the same people as k702. I'll let you guess what sort of demographic is on massdrop. Hint: just look at popular drops.

Anyway, if you look around, k702 is people needing reference headphones. If you want precision, fuck the k7xx and get the k702.

Disclaimer: I own k702 and k550, tried the k7xx. I've been hanging in /hpg/ a fair bit lately, but I'm not the only one shitting on the k7xx.

>>55330614
With the msr7 you're paying more for a true neutral over the slightly warm sounding xpt100. I'd say go with the msr7 only if you care a lot about hearing the """true""" sound which you probably don't if you've never used good cans before and aren't working in audio content production.

>>55329974

Not him but do I need an amp for the DT880 600 Ohm edition? These will be my first real headphones

I know what it says in the OP, but I will ask anyway
what do you think of beats by dre headphones?

>>55331749
You know exactly what the answer is going to be

>$240 CAD
>Canada
>Comp
>Full
>Closed
>Decent comfortability. Headband is not a concern
>Neutral or bright
> Logi G230, Really comfy but way to much bass

thanks lads

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Rate my dad's purchase, 23 pairs of Able Planet Linx Audio headphones for $29

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>greater attack and agility
what the fuck

Anyways are these worth $60 Canadian?

>>55331876
8/10, I would do the same.

>>55331956
>not using your headphones to round out your stats
Do you even minmax?

what's the best in ear headphones i can get for $10? just want them to watch movies on my laptop while traveling

>>55331692
are you sure k812 improve upon k702?

>>55332027
Xiaomi Hybrids or Rock Zircons

>>55331956
Only if you're support or tank, definitely don't get these as rogue

>>55325809
There are 2 versions. HD429 and HD429S. The HD429s have a different cable. It's a cable with a headset so i don't really know why it would be cheaper lol

Is there a logical increments kind of site for headphones?

Also, what do you call that substance that you put on your headphone wires so the insulation doesn't peel off due to the heat? My room temp averages around 35 - 40 (tropical country).

Review about Xiaomi Mi Headphones? Does /g/ approve of it?

Headphones, not the in ear earphones.

>>55333224
no, there's a lot of disagreement with headphones, not nearly the same reliance upon benchmarks.

anyway, go to the wiki in the OP, it has lots of suggestions.

>>55333287
http://www.mi.com/en/miheadphones/

These ones.

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What are some alternatives to AKG K240 MKII?

>>55333310

Yes, I did check out gentoo wiki. Thanks mate.

I got a buzzing in the right side of my chink phones, it has only started this week and only when a certain volume level/frequency causes it to buzz. And by buzz I mean a part is physically vibrating creating this noise and feeling. I can't search for a solution because any form of buzz brings up unrelated kinds of buzzs.

Anyway, before I take apart my headphones and possibly damage them, has anyone experienced this problem before? Would it be a wire that is loose? Surely no other part should have moved to cause this physical vibration.

>>55331097
Not him but is that really all? What about comfort and build quality?

>>55333504
What don't you just get an AKG240 ?
I love mine.

>>55334059
I want to know other headphones in the same price range of the MK II so that I can choose which one to get. The 240 is not available, I think.

How does he compare to the MK II? And do you happen to know other cans in the same range?

>>55334059
Also, the design of the 240/MKII looks a lot like my Superlux 681. Is the sound is better?

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>reading and watching headphone reviews trying to select my first pair

>>55334101
>>55334130
I have no clue, it's my first real headphone. And in fact I have the Studio version, no the MKII.. But as they have both the same design, all I can say it's really comfy keeping it around your ears for hours.

>>55334146
Just let us fags do all the work for you so you don't get sucked into this stupid """hobby""".

>>55334177
Trying to choose between the Beyerdynamic DT 770, the DT 250, and the ATH-MSR7.

>>55334227
fill out the form lad

>>55334377
I already did the form, that's how I got where I am now. Down to just the 770 (32 ohm variant) and the MSR7 and the differences are not so easy for someone new to the field to understand.

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>Budget
$50 (R$500)

>Location
Brazil.

>Source
Computer/TV/Smartphone, probably getting a FiiO soon.

>Preferred type of headphone
Full.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Minimum, if it enchances sound quality.

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or Bassy.

>Past headphones
Superlux HD 681.

I'm thinking of AKG K240 MK II or Beyerdynamic Dtx910. Is there more options?

>>55334433
The DT770 is heavily v-shaped, which is increased bass and treble response with recessed mids.
The MSR7 is somewhat neutral but slightly increased treble response which may make things like 's' and cymbals hurt and no where near the bass _amount_ of the DT770.

Basically, they are completely different from each other.

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>>55334539
Alright so I found my problem, wishful thinking made me mix up a few parts of the 770 and 250...
But I guess that solves this for me. Thanks.

>>55323527
dt770 80 Ohm checking in

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The foam on my Grados is starting to disintegrate, so I'm looking for a replacement. I hear velour mods are nice, but every one I've seen is ugly as sin. I found an ebay listing for these pleather donuts, and they look pretty neat. Has anyone dealt with these or something similar, and if so, how are they?

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Who else loves juicy mids and accurate sound here?

>>55335338
Is it that girl from Freezing?

>>55335416
Yep, it's Satellizer-senpai

If the gold plating is wearing out on my jack. Can you replate it?

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Who /dragonfly/ here?

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Rate buy plz. I'm not very into hpg like that, I just wanted some new headphones to travel around town with.

Also would something like http://www.ebay.com/itm/331251613556 be good if I plan to wear all day?

>>55335860
HD414 pads

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>>55336028

>>55336120
You have reached the endgame, friend.

>>55332078
more of a addition rather than an improvement

>>55331956
whathifi is good for entertainment value, nothing else

My mom got spotify to listen to operas she loves. She has a pretty uncomfy bad pair of headphones she uses to listen to music all the time. I'd like to get a new pair for my parents' wedding anniversary. I don't have too much of a budget, but I hope this is enough information. She isn't much of an audiophile or anything, she can barely use spotify, turning 58 soon.

>Budget
<$100.00
>Location
Europe
>Source
Android phone, spotify
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized.
>Open or closed
I don't know, its for Mom.
>Comfort level
Comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care.
>Past headphones
None, some cheap sony crap that came with her phone.

>>55337814
Hifiman HE-350

>>55331956
I think it allows your pokemon to attack first

>>55334146
Just buy whatever has good reviews in your price range
You will want a new pair afterwards and with the understanding of your first pair, what you liked and didn't like you'll make a more informed decision
There's no stopping once you go down this rabbit hole. You will want another pair.

>>55337814
Creative Aurvana Live

You won't find anything as comfy as that with decent sound.

>>55337814
Sony MDR 7506 + Auray Sheep Skin Pads.
The 7506 is built like a tank, which is valuable to anyone, audiophile or not, sounds great for the price too.
Stock pads are the only problem since they don't lady long, but they can be replaced by the Auray ones, they last much longer and are more comfortable.
You can replace the pads yourself before giving the headphone in order to facilitate things for your mom.

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>>55334525
Fidelio L2 tem estado com um preço realmente bom na Kabum, é bem resistente, não precisa de amplificação e é semi-fechado, oferecendo mais isolamento que um aberto e mais palco sonoro que um fechado.

>>55331843
AD900X.

>>55335338
/hpg/ = memephone 702 and accurate mids central, right?

anyway, I'm with you

>Budget
100$ (Less is better).
>Location
US Online Purchases Only.
>Source
PC(Win), Laptop(Win), Phone(Android).
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Comfortable and Stretchable with decent sound.
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care.
>Past headphones
Too many.

The headphones need to be tough i usually break my headphones i need them to stretch mostly when im putting them on and taking off because i do that A LOT.

>>55335802
that clamp

>>55339496
Why memephone?

>>55339554
MDR 7506 + Auray Sheep Skin Pads.
As sturdier as it gets in that price range.

>>55337814
Hi2050 with HM5 velour pads

>>55339955
because we praise it so much that it sounds like meming/shilling.

I fucking genuinely love the k702 though.

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>>55340416
>we

>>55340291
>>55340262

i guess ill try the sony's.
thanks guys.

What is your opinion about 5.1 surround sound systems?

>>55340798
Nice if you know what you are doing with it. I can't recommend picking up a ready 5.1 "system" ever.

>Budget
100 euro, can throw in 10 more
>Location
Spain
>Source
Pc, portable player with no notable amping ability, PS Vita
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM/Earpenis
>Comfort level
I'm sticking an earpenis here
>Preferred tonal balance
Ah shit, I don't even know wtf I want here, make it sound gud on metal such as Iron Maiden, Blind Guardian, Metallica, Manowar, Rammstein... mostly old as fuck stuff
>Past headphones
Grado SR80i
Did a bretty good job at this.

>tfw Alstromeria Records is coming to a local con
Too bad its just masayoshi minoshima and nomico, would have preferred nachi instead. Bad Apple is pretty cool I guess.

Is HD600 more hi-fi than HD650? HD600 should be more neutral....

>>55342088
Minoshima is where it is at.

Are mobile amplifiers worth it or just a meme.

>>55343643
Are you reaching a good listening volume without distortion? You don't need an amp.
Got everything maxed out but it's still not loud enough, or distorting? You need an amp.
Mobile devices work the same way.

>>55341807
MA750

>>55343643
Yes, because the best closed headphone doesn't need one.

I have a K702 and I have been considering switching to the Fidelio x2's

What should I do

They're the Chinese/Bumpless K702's if that matters, I'm not sure if there is a difference in quality compared to the Austrian ones

Can anyone tell me?

>>55344036
I had the Fidelio X2 and I switched to the K702. Ask me anything. What don't you like about the K702? What do you expect from the X2?

>>55343197
Yeah. They are very similar however.

So i just bought a pair of akg k7xx's. And i'm a total noob to this stuff. The "best" headphones i've used are akg k550 through my phone (so no dac). Tell me hos badly did i fuck up and can someone tell me how necessary is a dac and do good dacs that don't break my bank (student) exist?

>>55345737
I have tried k7xx with and without my o2 dac+amp; my conclusion is that there is no need for you to buy a headphone dac+amp.

As for fucking up, consensus on the forum is that k7xx is bad, but you should do a careful listening test against your k550 on your own and then post your findings here.

>>55345833
Ooh, a listening test? I'll do it as soon as they get here (2-4 seeks sadly) and i'm no expert as i said but i will do my best. And thanks for the advice.

>>55346016
expert opinion doesn't matter; what matters is that you like the headphones.

also, IMO the k550 is a very nice pair of headphones, so you'll be able to do a decent listening test. Note that the k7xx is much different from the k550, in particular it has a big bass bump.

>>55345737
You bought the bassiest version of a normally bright (k701/2 Q701/2) headphone that went neutral (k712). You didn't do too badly, but maybe don't always buy the newest iteration of a product before looking for opinions.

Depends on your source as to whether or not a DAC is strictly necessary. It will outstrip any pc onboard save for the few recent high end boards that have a sabre DAC onboard. Your main problem is probably your music library. Upgrade that to cd rips and then bother with a DAC/AMP.

>>55346094
I don't mind loads of bass since i listen to quite a lot of very bassy (electronic) music but i'm not here to discuss my shit music taste. And what does "outstripping" mean? Will it kill my mobos audio if i try to use it with my pc?

ath m50x

should I?

>>55345737
This is probably the part where someone should post the amp/DAC template, but let's go with something else.

The reason you would get another Digital-Analogue Converter is for noise issues, interference, or because you wanted more outputs. Not much else, and they aren't built to drive headphones/speakers directly without an amplifier in between.
Amplifiers amplify. That's what they do, and audio amplifiers should be free of distortion doing it. They serve a secondary purpose of impedance buffer, but that comes later.

>did i fuck up
People whine and bitch for hundred of pages about opinions and the frequency response.

>>55346074
K550 is supposed to be a V-shaped set of headphones...the reason it may not be is why it's not very good.

>>55346094
Unlike other computer parts, slotting in a high end converter (which would only be a few dollars) doesn't make it high performance.

>>55346257
>meme50X
If you like niggerbass, sure.

>>55346296
what

>>55346274
I'm the commenter from >>55346074 . I own the k550 and am baffled by comments that they're V-shaped, which I've seen here a few times. My only explanation is that the k550 must have gone through revisions at some point; I own one of the original pairs and it is absolutely not v-shaped, and for direct comparison I have both k702 and hf5 here. Certainly, the k7xx was absurdly bass heavy when compared alongside my other headsets, something I did a few weeks ago.

>>55346274
> K550
> Not very good
ahahaha im loving this meme my friend do you mind if i save it? =)

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>>55348598
The only revision I know is the K550 mk2 released late 2015.
I first posted my surprised impressions on the substantial subbass (and treble peaks) of the K550 around 2012, since the only other AKG I bothered to hear then was the K701.
The V-shape is somewhat present in Tyll's very early measurements, but there's a wide distribution of results that muddles that.
A 10+ dB low end lift comes across more clearly in Harman's own measurements, released early in the product life cycle.

The headphone is very obstinate when it comes to fit, and a less than perfect fit dramatically changes the result. The headphone padding does not help. The smaller K545 manages to be even worse.

>>55349332
(I'm the commenter from >>55348598 )

Okay, what you write is very interesting. I am embarrassed to say I never considered fit and padding when assessing and discussing the k550. Unless you tell me the mk2 revision was major (my own pair dates from 2013), this would then form a fairly likely explanation of my listening discrepancies. This makes me wish I took the time to carefully adjust my headphones myself, as no doubt there are headsets I've tried and disliked where the issues could be remedy by some easy tweaking.

Have you disassembled the various AKG "flagships", meaning k702, k550, k712, k7xx, etc.? I wonder how much differences come down to driver tuning, padding, etc., rather than drivers themselves. I found the differences between the k7xx, k702, and k550 drastic, but some people say k702 vs k7xx is just a question of padding and headband ..

>>55323527

>Budget
$300.00 USD
>Location
HK (mingo/kingsound)
>Source
FiiO e10k.
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM.
>Comfort level
I'll have to wear them for many hours at a time.
>Preferred tonal balance
Not sure- see below. I do want a wide sound stage.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser 598SE - I like these a lot. I think they lack bass impact though.
Grado SR80 - A bit too bright for me. They really hurt after an hour. Durability issues.

I tried the Sony XBA-Z5s in store and really liked its sound signature. The price is way out of my budget.

I have also heard that the DUNU D-2000j's are the IEMs to beat at the moment.

>>55346340
the ath-m50x have a "v"- shaped frequency response, emphasizing low and high frequencies, if im remembering correctly.

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>Budget
$100-$300
>Location
Eastern US
>Source
PC with some Fiio amp that I haven't actually needed
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable, I'm going to be wearing them for long periods of time.
>Preferred tonal balance
I like vocals the most so maybe mid but I don't have much experience with different types, I'd probably prefer neutral.
>Past headphones
Logitech G50, I think that was the number for them, they're the wired versions of the G930 and with much better plastic.
I liked the cord braid, it didn't get caught under my chair a lot. The buttons were nice for changing tracks while laying in bed but that's not a big feature. It was pretty sturdy. Sounded alright but nothing spectacular. Eventually the band broke, I think they lasted 5 years.

Sennheiser 595's
They were very comfortable, I really liked the soundstage for things like audio recordings, movies, and games.
The pads ripped while I was removing them to take them off, maybe I was being too rough but that's the only way to get them off. After 5 years the right cup broke off at this hinge, it's currently duct tapped to the band.

----------

I want something that sounds good for ambient music but also voice stuff that I can wear all day while working and then relaxing. I don't want the god damn cups to break off.

I was gonna go for the AKG k7xx on massdrop since they look sturdy but /hpg/ says to avoid, they also have this dumb red color.

>>55350290
Also I'd be willing to go over budget if I could get some "for life" headphones. I'm frugal in the way that I'd rather spend a lot of money once than a little money every now and then.

>>55350290
>>55350320
HD600

>>55350050
is that a bad thing? It would depend on what you're listening too right? I know fuck all about headphones, if you couldnt tell.

>>55349863
I don't know what the mk2 entails, nor have I gone out of my way to hear it.
I've never had opportunity to tear apart the K712/7XX, or had the time to listen carefully.

Padding primary effect is in the bass and midrange, affecting leakage. Open headphones tend to be less susceptible to these effects, since there is usually a decent bit of leak built into the driver mounting plate. This weakens the ability of open dynamics to produce loud bass below 30-40 Hz, but it reduces the effect of fitting at the pads.
Some people blame leak on the K701's bass troubles, I'm not sure. The K701 bass consistency falls short of the best, but it can do a decent job managing it as most open dynamics do.
I have some slides on that, but I'm a bit weary to look for it right now.

Pad thickness and earpad acoustic absorbency can have some effect in the high frequencies, mainly to do with complicated wave behavior. Senn HD 600/650 pads reduce the treble level as they age and wear out, and flattening new pads does something similar.

>>55350042
DN-2000J is nice if you want a V-shape or liked the AKG K3003, but didn't want to pay for it. It pretty much sounds just like the K3003, but made more cheaply.
2000J has the bass boost nozzle thing you can add on, but the vent it covers does double duty as depressurizer; the membrane will crinkle because you closed the vent that let air out easily.

I recall the MDR-Z5 being V-shaped but in different way compared to the default 2000J/K3003. More bassy with peaks higher up compared to the 2000J, which tends to brightness with peaks around 6 kHz and the canal resonance.

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Back of my motherboard
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
Does not really matter but i would prefer closed
>Comfort level
Very comfy! but sound the same or better then my current pair
>Preferred tonal balance
p-please no boosted bass
>Past headphones
Sennheiser RS120s

>>55350744
Forget to say i would like full size

>>55350388
Do you have a pair, if so how long have you had them? Have you ever abused them like dropping them or stuffing them in a travel bag?

I take pretty good care of my things but I still like to know if things can take an accident. Even if these can't I'd still probably grab them given they remain on my head and my headphone stand most of the time.

>>55350744
MDR 7506 + Auray Sheep Skin Pads.
It will last a life time.

>>55350931
> Pads cost 30% the price of the headphones
Is this seriously worth it?

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They are dead and I'm not paying $57 for some earpads made out of sheep.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MFDX4YO?psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZY8PGJI?psc=1

Anything like those? Are those good?

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Bought the:
Sennheiser HD 201
Zalman Microphone ZM-MIC 1

Did I fuck up? I owned a shitty consumer turtle-beach tier headphones. So this is a pretty big step. Didn't want to use a lot of money yet.

Also does the amount of hz change the quality of the sound? If I have more does that mean the sound will be better? Or is it something else that makes better.

Sorry question should go on /sqt/ hahaha. Just know you guys know better

>>55351234
202 are better if you wanted to go that route. I tried both at a store and the 201 sound pretty boring and even hollow. The 202 sounded better in my opinion.
Besides that, I think hpg will shit on you for not buying _THEIR_ favorite budged headphones.

>>55335338
not you considering your gear

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Got my used hd650s in the mail today, couldn't pass them up for 200$.

I just have no way to check the actual quality, only got a hd598 for comparison.

Anyone got an idea on how to test em?

>>55351817
Standard ABX. Got a switch or a Y-cable?

>>55351858
I'll be buying one today, but I actually don't want to compare the two but see if the hd650 is up to standard, it sounds fine but the model itself is quite old, at least 5 years if not more so I don't know if its still as great as it should be.

I wonder if I could buy a new pair, replace the drivers with mine and send it back.

Why does /hpg/ hate the k7xx? I was going to get a pair but i don't know anymore.

>>55351960
>I wonder if I could buy a new pair, replace the drivers with mine and send it back.
Assuming your used pair isn't so old it uses black drivers and not silver ones I don't see why not.

>>55352027

Unfortunately it seems my drivers are the black ones. Now I really wonder how old these are, the model number was around 9xxx.

Looking for recommendations for active noise-cancelling headphones good for use in a loud open office environment. By default I'd get QC35 or QC25, but I wanted to ask here first.

>Budget: Minimum $200, max $350
My boss is willing to chip in some cash for these headphones so there's little sense in spending under $200 for me.
>Location: USA
>Source: Desktop, Laptop, rarely phone
>Preferred type of headphone: Full sized
>Open or closed: Closed
>Comfort level: Very comfortable.
Ideally I'll wear these for 2-3 hours at a time without feeling any/much discomfort. Would also like to avoid ears sweating from full sized headphones that get too hot.
>Preferred tonal balance: I'm a total audio pleb. Something balanced would be great.
>Past headphones: Audiotechnica ATH-M50, Bose QC15.

>>55338386
speak english you faggot

>>55350617
thanks for the k701/k712/k7xx comments/clarifications

>>55351078
Anyone?

>>55336144
Underrated fucking post

>>55336120
This is my fucking everyday headphone with these pads. Don't forget to cut a little quarter sized hole in the pads and flip them inside out.

>>55352103
Bump

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>Budget
150 USD
>Location
America
>Source
Vinyl
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
As good as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, or warm. Soundstage is prioritized over tonal balance.
>Past headphones
Grados, porta pros, MDR 7506

Pls help.

>>55351269
Edgy

>>55346094
> K712
> neutral
If anything, K712 is less hifi than both K702/Q701 and K7XX.

>>55345737
You did well, if you like overemphasized bass.

>>55353033
fuck off akg shill

>>55352829
HD558/598

>>55353152
sennshill faggot get ass cancer and go back to r eddit

>he400i cost $200 in China

Worth it?

>>55343827
MA750 or MA750i if both are available? Are they the same?

>>55353940

Btw I picked sum overly cheap Vsonic VSD1S, they're on the pretty gr8 side, but yeh, I could use higher SQ/general quality

>>55353940
MA750i has an inline microphone and controls.

>>55323527
Hey hpg, Im shit with audio and need to know the names of audio gear i'd need to acomplish this in the following order:

merge, 3 different audio sources,

physically equalise the combined sources all at the same time


plz help familia

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>Budget
$100
>Location
Japan
>Source
Android phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds (NOT IEM)
>Past headphones
Stock android earbuds

>>55323527
>Budget
£100
>Location
UK
>Source
PC/Audio interface/MPC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Audio technica (not sure which model)

>>55353857
It depends on the price of the HD600 there.

>>55354365
Don't really know much about this stuff but maybe look into one of the Scarlett interfaces?

>>55354755
not really what I need at all

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Axel "The sound is a little bit better" Grell

i wont let the thread die

so what headphones are being shilled these days

>Budget
$200
>Location
Tokyo
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Comfort level
High as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced, Neutral
>Past headphones
Gaymer Headsets

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>>55326669
600 master race reporting. I've owned the 702's and the 880's and the 600's are more complete than both. The bass is just right ;)

>>55330759
7xx have some bass, 702's have non.

Take your pick.

>>55351972
They hate anything that costs more than the 702, they also hate having ANY amount of bass.

>>55358445
I recognize that amp. you're the guy who recently switched from k702...

>>55358487
there is no way you tried both extensively; the differences are far beyond just bass, and k702 definitely has bass.. are you some sort of bizarre massdrop shill?

>>55358556
No, I recently switched from the k712 but I started out with the 702, the hd600 is better than both. All 3 are good though.

>>55358603
that's right, thanks.
I recently moved up to the k702, having loved the AKG sound for years, and couldn't be happier. I almost got the hd600 instead, but decided I need to hear the k702 flagship first, otherwise I'd always wonder.

I'll try the hd600 at some point.

I see your amp is unplugged (luls). did an a/b test with/without it?

>>55358667
The 702 is fantastic but it's a bit too harsh and lacking in bass for me. I'd be happy sticking with the 702 for a long time before even thinking about switching if I was you.

When you say a/b test do you mean testing the headphones with and without the amp?, i'm not sure what you mean.

>>55358753
yes, I plan to stick with the k702 for a long time. I have two pairs of cans I use though, one in my home and one in my office, so I might upgrade my other headset to be hd600, or perhaps some nice closed headphones (not sure).

I do mean testing the hd600 with and without the amp, yes. /hpg/ seems much more realistic about amps than other forums..

>>55358825
I'm about to try that test properly in a couple hours funnily enough. I tried it very quickly last night and I couldn't hear a difference which was disappointing even though I knew the differences should be small.

I need to get a few drinks down me and really test them with some concentration ;)

>>55358911
I also have the o2+odac and similary found differences minimal, though I've only done a cursory check due to travel. The o2 has low noise and on one track with a lot of jumbled layers, I found it clearer with than without it, though I need to do a proper randomized test.

By the way, what sorts of music do you listen to? I listen to old non-bass-heavy electronic, and also some classical; akg are well-matched to my listening tastes afaik.

anyway, one reason I like /hpg/ is you don't get the bullshit dac+amp idolization you see on every other forum. I'm starting to think it's all due to shilling...

>>55358911
>>55358825

Just done another quick test straight to on board, straight into my usb dac and then finally through both my o2 amp and usb dac and they get better in that order. It's all slight differences once you have a good pair of headphones but I'm just glad to confirm my amp and dac are making a difference. I've only ever plugged my headphones straight into my amp+dac since my first pair of headphones (702's)

>>55359047
A lot of it is and the main ingredient by FAR is the headphone. My o2 isn't actually the amp+dac combo, it's just the amp and I combine it with a HifiDiyme Sabre dac because it's cheaper. It's supposed to be really good for the money and a couple of people have said that it's 90% as good as the o2 dac for example, it only cpst £40 so that's good enough for me.

I bought the dac to make my setup silent and to remove 'noise' that my pc puts out. I honestly think that amps and dacs make a small difference, but i'm planning on having my o2 for life as long as it doesn't break so i'm not worried anyway. I also like the fact that it has it's own power sauce as apposed to the e10k which needs a pc for example, I can use my o2 with my ps4 etc whereas plugging headphones straight into the ps4 controller doesn't give enough volume. It's very handy, would I buy another expensive amp?, probably not.

>>55359047
Forgot to add that I listen to a mix of anything really, besides electronic, heavy metal and country. I think I remember saying to you that you have the perfect headphone for the type of music you listen to last time ;)

>>55359202
90% as good as a o2 dac?
Didn't you say that your Hifime is the 9018 version? That version is better than the 9023 Hifime. Sennheiser Orpheus 2 uses a 9018.

>>55359412
it is the 9018 version yes, I don't rermember ever mentioning that lol?

Literally 3 people in a headfi thread said that it's 90% as good as the o2 dac, but everyone agrees that it's very good for the price either way. As far as I know it uses the same chip as the o2 dac but according to headfi that doesnt make it as good because of the other components etc. I wouldn't really know.

>>55359355
nice.
Yes, that was me you said the "perfect headphone" thing to =) That was before the k702 arrived; it's here now and it is godly, I value precision above all else when listening and uncovered many things I hadn't heard before even in music I'd pored over many times.

>>55359202
Yes, there are many reasons not to get the combined o2+odac, it was quite a stupid choice by me.

>>55354476

Yukin PK2
Venture Electronics Monk Plus
Ostry KC08

Whichever one you can find at a decent price. There's not a huge market for earbuds.

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>>55359869
>=)

>>55359869
I'm glad that you're enjoying your K702. I was the one to tell you that you would discover new nuancesa and details in your music.

Any closed headphones with as much soundstage as any open headphones?

>>55360022
AKG K550

>>55359869
Glad you like the 702's famm.

I've just tested my on board vs my o2 amp vs my o2 amp+ sabre dac again and the amp+dac is definitely the best out of the three. It's a small change for the amount of money but it is making an improvement. Find a song with detail that kicks in instantly and switch bewtween onboard and the o2 and you should be able to hear the difference. Your o2 combo should technically be very slightly better than my setup so I wouldn't worry about 'wasting' money if you like this hobby enough. Just don't upgrade it lel, you're set for life unless you get bored of the headphones for some reason after a long time.

>>55360051
How would those compare to a HD598?

>>55360054
okay, I did my own listening test, with proper cabling so I could just click a button on my laptop to switch around without interrupting anything. The thing I was initially listening to wasn't precise enough and things sounded basically the same, so I switched to something with many layers and lots of percussion, and now the difference really stood out. Indeed now I suspect my laptop's onboard dac+amp, in addition to having a much worse noise floor (which made all those layers muddled), also has a tiny bit of bass boost? That pissed me off.

>>55323527

>Budget
100€ (Absolute maximum, cannot go over this)
>Location
Germany
>Source
Phone, PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Super comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Cheap 5€ IEMs, Apple earpods

>>55360098
Bassier and brighter.

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>>55360906
Well that sounds like what I expected.

>>55360574
Funny you mentioned the bass boost as I noticed that with my on board sound, well i'm not even sure it's a boost, I think it's just more muffled and less tight.

I can't really describe the sound effect you need to hear the difference clearly but yeah anything that's layered and detailed should show the difference and it sounds like you found it. It might not seem like much but it's only going to improve the overall listening experience and it's good to know that your gear is actually very good and doing it's job. Your setup is great, insane by normies standards. Now it's time to enjoy it.

>>55361152
Don't use presets senpai, learn how to use the vanilla apo equalizer.

>>55361240
That isn't a preset though senpai, I just suck at this

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Should I buy the DT880s for $200? They're the 600 Ohm version, and I already have a Magni 2. Is there anything else worth considering at the $200 price range?

>>55361285
Link? Brand new?

>>55361304

Yeah let me get to my computer, they're brand new though

>>55361332
Nvm. I ordered mine on amazon too for $208. I got mistaken. I paid in my own countries ..

>>55361353
*countries currency

>>55361353
Gotcha, do you have them already? How do you like them? Are they worth it?

>>55361257
My bad I meant just use the apo as standard, that peace plugin is vague as fuck. Don't worry I did the same at first and thought it was a god send because I didn't understand anything but the quicker you know how to learn to use apo properly the better. Unless you get headphones that are perfect for you and don't need an eq in your opinion.

>>55361383
I mean, modifying everything from the .txt file gives you more power over the eq, but I find that what I posted sounds good with my HD598 so I don't know.

>>55361377
No. I mean I ordered mine and it just changed to processed. It'll get here next week or so.

>>55360098
Brighter.
Maybe bassier, maybe not. It can vary by 20 dB in the bass.

>>55359412
>Sennheiser Orpheus 2 uses a 9018.
That part doesn't matter to anyone.

>>55358367
Closed? Open?

>>55361487
>Maybe bassier, maybe not.
So just luck?

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>>55361414
If you're happy with what you hear that's all that matters lad

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>>55361506
Bad fit. The K550 is "supposed" to sound like >>55349332

The K550 is very hard to get a fit with, giving rise to huge variations in bass. This graph shows some of the variations that happen with the K550, and other headphones.

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>>55361856
dat hd 800 leak consistency

>>55361285
No, save up for the Sennheiser HD600, the DT880 is horrible: it has fake details, it's harsh and low-fi.

>>55361383
how is it vague?

>>55361856
>HD518
>pretty consistent

I would assume the HD598 are the same?

>>55361993
[citation needed]

>>55361997
It's nowhere near as detailed as editing the standalone apo equalizer. The peace ui is a plugin to make things 'simple'

>>55323527
>>Headphone purchase advice
>http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub
>Budget
250
>Location
america
>Source
pc and phone
>Preferred type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
eh
>Preferred tonal balance
not really sure since I like all kinds of shit from eurobeat to classical to aggrotech so neutral maybe

>>55362040
what is missing?

>>55362043
AKG K550

>>55362053
Nothing is missing, use the apo equalizer as it is without the 'peace' ui installed..

>>55362100
i'm asking what's missing from Peace GUI since "It's nowhere near as detailed"

>>55362026
Just about similar.

>>55362040
PEACE was initially about giving EQAPO a visual interface. Then EQAPO added something easier to use than a text file.

Just one short question, are the Xiaomi Hybrid worth it, or are the Piston 3 just fine as daily drivers?

>>55362162
>Then EQAPO added something easier to use than a text file.
How can I access that?

>>55362185
EQAPO now lets you see what those filters do using the editor. The editor is the visual.
PEACE has hotkeys that EQAPO lacks in its default state.

>>55362182
Hybrid is very bassy, and a pretty common sound. I would not advise it.

>>55362281
Thanks, that's what my cheapskate instict told me, too. God i could have been born as legit kike.

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>>55362391
>God i could have been born as legit kike

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>>55362391
>mfw I rag on the Jews all the time but find myself splitting hairs over <$10 just as often

what are some different headphone options i have for good bass to listen to my nigger music?

$100-200 USD

Tips for MDR-7506 EQ?
Is there something like a preset available anywhere?

when you use the line in from your motherboard, does it make the audio any better? for example plugging a smartphone or handheld in?

>>55362659
Beats™ by your father for raising such a disgrace.

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>>55362556
>>55362623
Every shekel counts, silly goyim.

>>55362710
ive already got mdr-7506 i just want something with more bass for when im in the mood to listen to nigger music

>>55361856
you are some kind of god and I love you

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Anyone use these monoprice dj style headphones?
need to replace a pair of headphones that just broke and this seems to be a decent deal
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-108323-Headphone-Gold-Plated-Accessories/dp/B007SP2Co2

I don't know shit about this stuff, but have a question.
How badly does sound bleed out of open-back headphones? can people hear my shitty music in the next room or do they have to stand next to me?

>>55364246
Depends a bit on the headphones but many open backs leak almost as much sound out as they play in. Think of them as miniature loudspeakers. If you are listening on loud volumes people in the next room can hear you.

>>55363938
They're the best headphones unless you want to spend over $100.

I got them a couple years ago and expected them to break in a month since they're all plastic, but they're surprisingly durable. I ended up buying the velour earpads for them, they cost more than the actual headphones, but I regret nothing.

>>55364287
Well in that case i'm fucked.

>>55364246
Most non-planar headphones have a more limited leakage; the leakage will be asymmetric.
In general, if you listen loudly, someone in the same room could hear it. They won't hear it the room over.

>>55364358
Thanks went ahead and ordered them

>>55350290
just get the hd558, they are much more durable than the old ones because used some tough ass plastic

>>55334146
>reviews
look at measurements and only trust lachlanlikesathing, his reviews are as good as it gets

Good earpads for MDRV6? Hopefully $20 or so.

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>Budget
$50 (flexible)
>Location
United States
>Source
Nexus 5X
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs
>Open or closed
No preference
>Comfort level
Comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference
>Past headphones
I use ATH-M50Xs at home and I want some IEMs for exercise/going out. I currently use Apple earbuds, but they have such shit quality that I always run into problems after a few months of use.

I'm mainly looking for IEMs that will last. Build quality is my main priority. Sound quality is just a plus.

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Best headphone (preferably bluetooth) onwhich i can enjoy Avril Lavignes perfect voice in her songs? Budget is 70$

So I bought DT 770 Pros and I like them so far.
My Daily Driver was ATH-M30x's.
My only complaint so far is the amount of pressure on my head but I'm sure after some wearing in they will be good.

>>55366771
>but I'm sure after some wearing in they will be good.
um try stretching it? it's made of bendable metal u know.

>>55366794
good idea

I'm convinced that "soundstage" is just frequency response traits when people compare them on headphones. I played Overwatch with my HD600 and my HD800 today and the HD600 sounded far better with the Dolby virtual surround, it sounded more open, clearer and the effects were better overall. I always played games on the HD800 and used the HD600 for music.

Without the DSP applied, the HD600 sounds a wee bit less open. HD800 makes objects sound more distant in both music and games, but methinks it's too harsh for enjoying music and it's less neutral, it's supremely comfortable though.

There's been a lot of muggins lately around my area and I'd rather not lose my 400$ portable setup
I'm looking for a >50 USD pair of headphones that can be powered by my moto e.
I don't particularly care about anything, just that they're closed or IEMs, whatever sound signature. I just don't want them to sound like shit and have easy driving requirements.
Any suggestions? I live in Mexico so getting a hold of some brands might be hard

>>55368004
Wait, the arrow is the other way around. I'm retarded
Sub 50 USD is my price range.
I was considering the Sennheiser HD 202. Those were the first real headphones I owned about two years ago but gave them to my mum once I bought something better. Wouldn't mind getting another pair since they're on the cheap side but I'd like to consider other alternatives.

I just got my HD600's and they are amazing. I was told my /hpg/ that an amp would be needed but I decided to not get one i mmediately to see if my motherboard could drive it. However volume is not an issue at all, infact I have to bring my audio settings down to 5-10% on most applications. Are amplifiers a just a meme or am I missing something?

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Anyone ever clip ons like ksc75?
Is it difficult to wear them and glasses at the same time?

>>55361487
Preferably closed, open is ok tho

>>55368004
e10.

>>55368033
Hardcore objectivists may disagree but there's more to amping than merely volume.

>>55367845
Soundstage is absolutely affected by EQ. This has been known for a long time, and has been used very deliberately in surround applications. It's not the sort of thing audiophiles acknowledge.

>>55368033
>I was told my /hpg/ that an amp would be needed
I wouldn't have said that, not that I probably replied to you. I would have said maybe, because headphone outputs are all over the place, good and bad.
>Are amplifiers a just a meme or am I missing something?
I don't know what you mean by meme, but there is more to the amplifier. However, your choice of headphone makes most of them irrelevant.

How do you find out what headphones your waifu would wear?

Looking for recommendations for active noise-cancelling headphones good for use in a loud open office environment. By default I'd get QC35 or QC25, but I wanted to ask here first.

>Budget: Minimum $200, max $350
My boss is willing to chip in some cash for these headphones so there's little sense in spending under $200 for me.
>Location: USA
>Source: Desktop, Laptop, rarely phone
>Preferred type of headphone: Full sized
>Open or closed: Closed
>Comfort level: Very comfortable.
Ideally I'll wear these for 2-3 hours at a time without feeling any/much discomfort. Would also like to avoid ears sweating from full sized headphones that get too hot.
>Preferred tonal balance: I'm a total audio pleb. Something balanced would be great.
>Past headphones: Audiotechnica ATH-M50, Bose QC15.

>>55368685
>Soundstage is absolutely affected by EQ. This has been known for a long time
Source?

>>55368980
Bose is pretty much the best when it comes to ANC.
The only question is if you're willing to pay 50 extra dollars for the QC35 and the wireless NFC functionality or would rather save those bucks and get the wired QC25
I think they're nearly the same except for the wireless

>>55369077
Any info on how much faster does wireless drain battery? Wired QC 15s has pretty good battery life.

I'm also confused about them branding QC25s as either for Apple or Android. Is that only for microphone functionality? If you know a of a reliable site where I could find some reviews/comparisons I would greatly appreciate it.

>>55368981
A start would be something on "directional bands", or rather HRTFs and the median plane.

Might as well go with this:
http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/muwi/fricke/103blauert.pdf
And a quote from it:
>The usual congruence of the directions of sound incidence and of the perceived directions is produced by relatively enhancing the signal power in the appropriate class of directional bands.
>What has been explained here for the directions of sound incidence from the median plane is important for yet another phenomenon: Monaural features, particularly the shape of the level spectra of the signals at the eardrum, also play an important role in forming the directions of auditory events outside the median plane - and for their distances.
>For the spatial hearing of music there is the following important consequence. The shape of the power spectrum of the sound signals of a sound source - of a musical instrument or a singing voice - is not only of importance for the timbre of the sound heard. In addition the spectrum is significant for spatial perception.

Jens Blauert goes into plenty of detail about the topic in his various books, "Spatial Hearing" and other books. Books about binaural or spatial perception will talk about the effect of equalization and HRTFs at some point.
There is a large body of work in this area. Some of it is in the linked papers on the wiki, the MEGA link. One such paper is the "Effect of Equalization on distance perception" or something like that.

>>55369114
Not sure about reviews trustworthy reviews. All seem like shilling desu
The QC35 are rated by Bose to have 20 hours of battery life, so expect around 15 or so of actual use with a built in battery.
The QC25 is rated at 35 hours with a AA replaceable battery.
You're right about Apple and Android, it's just for the built in controls on the sable as Apple and Android use different standards for the controls inputs or whatever.
It depends on what you want really. The disadvantage of the QC35 is that the battery is not replaceable so you have to stop listening while you charge them, but they're wireless.

>>55368980
I would have asked you to be a good gerbil and try the ATH-MSR7 ANC, but Bose does comfy very well and MSR7 is okay at best in that regard.

QC25 sound is passable, but only in ANC mode. Otherwise, the passive mode goes back to being boomy and mediocre. Bose still keeps an edge on the isolation as well.

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>>55323527
hey is superlux hd681's still best value for the price?

>>55370197
>>55370197
>>55370197

NEW THREAD

>>55369252
Sounds good. I'll also compare the weight of the two units because QC15 only need a AAA battery to function.

>>55369311
I need to start reading, but I was under the impression that QC25 is unusable without ANC enabled (that's the case with QC15s). I'm OK with that and usually just keep a few fresh spare batteries on hand.

I'll read about the MSR7s, but if they are heavier than Bose then I'm not sure I'll be able to take the risk (can't try a pair on in store for 2-3 hours). Unfortunately, I doubt I'll notice a real difference in the sound between Bose and the ATH.

>>55369855
Cute butt.

>>55370239
At least wait until the bump limit faggot.