Wasn't the RX 480 supposed to compete with the GTX 980?

2×RX 480 SLI is supposed to compete with the GTX 980. Next time wait before you are less retarded before making the 50th graphics card thread on /g/.

>>55323456
380 higher than 380x nice graph

>>55323629
>that little unicode x
literal AMD pajeet damage control confirmed

Drivers will improve pretty much everything you dumb n/v/idiot

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>>55323629
Well maymayed

[spoiler]$0.02 has been deposited to your account[/spoiler]

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it beats gtx980 in few titles...
people expect quite a lot from $200 card

I also dislike cries about power consumption
amd was not stepping from gtx970, they were stepping from r9 390, thats what should be reference for improvement

>>55323456
In a goyworks game. Might as well throw fallout 4 up there too


>>55323801
AMD already said no new drivers immediately

>>55323884
>spoiler
>le orc man

Did you get lost on your way to /v/?

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Ok, wtf are people complaining about?

>>55323890
It's funny how it's only acceptable when nvidia does this.

>Nvidia goyimworks game gets better performance on nvidia card. "AMD SUCKS!"

>AMD dx12meme gets better performance on amd card "DX12 DOESN'T MATTER!"

>>55323938
Nvidiots are in advanced damage control mode until 1060 launches.
We must prevent the 480 from selling!

>>55323964
you might want to studdy up on whats dx12 and what is gameworks

>>55323456
>>55323801
>>55323890
>>55323899


Did you guys see this video!
RX480 vs 970 frames

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozATbV11rBA

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>>55323456
more optimized drivers coming.


the gtx 970 has to be super OCed to compete with the stock RX 480, what a joke

not to forget that gtx 970 has mature drivers

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But hey, at least it's got eight jiggerbytes, right goys?!?

>>55323890
Literally only hitman and AOS favor AMD in benchmarks.

>>55324023
TL;DR?

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>>55324058
>Literally

>>55324125
Thanks for providing my point.

>m-muh DIRECTX 11 TITLES

nvidiots genocide when?

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>>55324058
>Literally

>>55324209
mass suicide from NVdibots today

i have an Nvdia card so i'm no biased

Performance is fine, retarded leaks and bad marketing left many salty as they were expecting more.

>>55324058
All DX12 games (all three of them, hopefully more soon though right?)

>>55324320
>bad marketing
Really? Do you think it harmed AMD?
Lots of units will be sitting in the warehouses not being sold?

>>55324366
>Do you think it harmed AMD?
No. OEMs will probably be wanking all over this card.

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>>55324125
>Guru3D on purpose did not bench it against a 390
>in the conclusion they admit it has similar performance and price in a short sentence buried in a wall of text

And you shills say Nvidia pays for their reviews.
Sheeesh.

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>>55323456
nvidiots wrecked

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>>55324806
2/3

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>>55324849
3/3
I am loving these nvidiot tears.

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>>55324870
Bonus round

>>55324028
>mature drivers
Something an AMD user will never experience. :^)

So basically the card is shit if I don't run Windows 10?

>>55324893
>>55324870
>>55324849
>>55324806
Do you understand that 480 is frying your mobo if you buy the official one now?

>>55325017
Nice meme

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>>55323456
DELETE THIS

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>>55325017
The fuck are you talking about, shill? Don't you have a housefire(or housefires, in case you were dumb enough to do SLI) to put out?

>>55324076
it is almost as fast as the 390 and faster than a 970. which is pretty good considering the price.

>>55325060
It pulls way too much for a 6pin+pci-e gpu

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>>55324893
you forgot the OC review from pcgameshardware were they showed their 480 oced to 1.3ghz wreking shit and they compared it to a 980 classified which cost 630€+ btw in germony the 480 is 219€ and 269€ which is totaly ok for me

>>55325096
Absolute FUD. Several GTX 750tis and 960s pulled more power over the slot than the RX 480 does.
Why don't you go wipe off your asshurt fanboy tears and stop posting.

>>55325125
but it goes over the specifications
and still pulls too much for it no matter if some shittier gpus did too

>>55323456
>REEE!!!! IT ACTUALLY PERFORMS AS WELL AS PEOPLE EXPECTED IT TO!!!
>Oh I know! I'm just going to start acting like people were expecting the reference board to outperform on par with the GTX 980!!
Nice attempt at a straw man, but when all of you n/v/idiots try to damage control by posting thread after thready trying to imply that people were expecting the reference boards to perform on par with a 980 it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do.

>>55325145
true that m8 the reference cards are trash, there is a reason the AiB cards have 6+8pin powerconnectors but to be honest people who buy reference cards be it amd or nvidia reference are retards

>>55325060
>Crossfire 2 480s
>Motherboard explodes from the power draw
>Literal housefire

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>>55325096
The GTX 960 has a single 6-pin connector, and pulls 60W more than the RX 480. I suggest you spread your FUD over at /v/ where they'll believe anything shills say and buy the novidya card like a good goy.

Pic related, RX 480 absolutely kicking nvidiot's shit in

>marketed as VR card
>don't provide VR sites with review samples

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Will the 480 be loud? I'm looking to upgrade (and on my Czech salary it's tough...) but I want a card that has good performance and doesn't sound like a lawnmower. I have a GTX 580 with a stock cooler right now so hopefully it's quieter than this thing...

>>55325189
If I was you I'd get one with a third party cooler.

there was a post on reddit by the amd rep saying it passed pci-sig's internal testing for power compliance (not just amd's) in-house testing.
I suspect toms hardware has a flawed test.

If i wanted 970 performance i would have upgraded 2years ago. I see literally no reason to upgrade from 670gtx, since im still on 1080p and i am not a spreag and can play medium/high at 60fps, pretty much any title.
Once i get 4k display with hdr and atleast 75hz, then il look into upgrading my card.

>>55325189
Apparently the stock cooler is pretty quiet. I however don't trust single fan solutions so I'd wait for aftermarket coolers or non-reference boards to come out before buying one if I didn't already own a GTX 970.

>>55325177
>14nm node
>comparing to 28nm node that's no longer being made
>uses more power than a 1080 for 80% less performance
>hahaha take that nvidiots!!!!

jesus christ this is just sad

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Day one, reference RX 480 slightly better than 970.

In two weeks, AIB models with >15% will surpass clearly the 980.

In one year, RX 480 will be on par to 980ti, mark my words.

>>55325254
>>55325189
RX 480 ref design (single 6-pin) draws more power then its recommed from the 6-pin and from pci-e slot, meaning it can fry your mobo or kill your psu (though its unlikely it will happen, it still can happen). Card is actually much less efficient than 1070/1080, so if you are planning to buy it wait for custom pcb version with double 6-pin or 8-pin, these will perform and OC much better and give the card 200-225W it actually needs.

>>55325292

>15% overclock

>>55325277
They don't just stop using a node as soon as a new node becomes available... They're obviously still going to continue making GTX 960's until the 1060 comes out at some point in the autumn.

>>55325302
it passed pci compliance. toms is fucking garbage

>>55325312
try july, and the fact you're comparing 2 years old tech to this garbage is pretty telling

How are the temps on it? Are they housefire tier or decent?

>>55325125
it's not nvidia's fault that shit manufacturer's like asus overclock/overvolt their cards and go over the power spec
stop trying pathetic amdshill

>>55325277
>14nm node
>comparing to 28nm node that's no longer being made
The only thing that matters is price. Absolutely no fucking one gives a shit about which node AMD or Nvidia is using, as long as they get decent performance and power consumption at a low price.
>uses more power than a 1080 for 80% less performance
Please refer to >>55325060 and >>55324893, shill. You're just embarrassing yourself.

The only one sad is you now that your cover has been blown. No one can be as stupid as you, so the only probability is that you're a nvidiot shill.

>>55325312
1060 is competitor for the 970/980, 960 might continue be produced long after rebranded like 1050/1040(while the actual pascal variants will be 1050ti/1040ti, released at like mid 2017)

>>55325320
yet you keep posting there graphs, so make up your mind either toms is garbage or not.

>>55325359
It's not novidya's fault that a _reference_ GTX 960 pulls 80W more than a RX 480 despite both cards having a single 6-pin connector either, isn't it shill?
>>55325060

>>55325302
It only pulls dangerous loads under furmark, so you really should worry as it's pretty common that cards pull more than what the spec suggests. The GTX 970 for example will at peak times pull close to 300W when it's PCIe and 8 pin power should limit it to 225W.

So stop acting as if this is some kind of motherboard and PSU killer as pretty much GPUs exceed their maximum allowed specs at peak times or under heavy stress.

>>55325398
*60W, before a nvidiot starts hyperventilating and throws an autistic fit.

So are the rumors about it being extremely hot true?

>>55323899
>It's great guyze! You just can't consider this, or that or that one and oh, this other one and yeah, all those other games too!!!!!

Might as well save yourself the trouble and just watch a playthrough or do something else more productive with your time.

>>55325348
Yes, a 2 year old card that's not only being used by plenty of people, but also still being sold new to consumers.

>>55325367
Do you really think that Nvidia is going to let it's own products compete with each other like that? When the GTX 960 comes out they're obviously going to discontinue at least the 970.

>>55325365
>furmark as a bench for power consumption
what a fucking retard

>>55323938
once they get some 3rd party coolers out and get real overclocks, it will be within striking range of the 980

>>55323456
Rx480 is literal shit. Can't beat 970 on Witcher 3 the best game optimized for AMD cards. Truly shameful.

>>55325454
>Do you really think that Nvidia is going to let it's own products compete with each other like that? When the GTX 960 comes out they're obviously going to discontinue at least the 970.
Sure i meant exactly that, once 970/980 supply dries up they gonna release the 1060. 960 will not directly compete with 1060, just like 970 isnt directly competing with 1070.

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>>55325398
that's very clearly an error, gtx 960 has a tdp of 120W

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>>55325459
How is FurMark invalid as a power consumption benchmark? Are you cherrypicking or do you have an actual argument? It shows how much a GPU can pull under stress conditions.

>>55325482
nice b8

>>55323801
Sure, in 3 years.

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So how big of a loss is AMD taking with each card selling them for only $200?

>>55325515
Every GPU for the past decade downclocks running furmark

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>>55325511
Well, here's the closest I could find to a standalone reference 960 benchmark(this model's power target is 10W higher than reference).

>>55325572
they need to buy for like 2 bilions dollarinos from GloFo, before they can buy there stuff from someone else and based on how bad GloFo performs i wouldnt be suprised they arent making any money at all.

>>55325581
>asus
what a surprise. they're a joke

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Did OP suddenly become retarded and could only keep memory for 1 page at a time?

>>55325573
Uh, what? Are you actually retarded or just pretending? This is not a "wait until we get thermal throttling" test. They just fire up FurMark and measure for a small amount of time, probably less than a minute. That won't get you thermal throttling. The reviewers know that a throttled result is not accurate.

>>55325572
some anon did the math and because amd´s yields are good because of small die(chip) sizes and a some what ok proccess they make around ~50$ from a card which is really good in that price section.
Nvidia for example has horrible yields on their 1080cards biggest reason here is because the die size of the 1080 is really really big which is the only reason they are faster, nvidia always goes the way of moar die size to beat amd because if you would have to compare them on the same die size, amd would win 10 out of 10 because their architecture is much better, so nvidia is forced to make bigger chips to win which crippels yield and makes the cards so expensive. im fine with that, but at some point the yields of bigger chips get so bad they are forced to make better architectures.

>>55325642
You don't use fucking furmark for measuring efficiency. Wow, a card with a power delivery designed for 150W consumes less than a card with a power delivery designed for more than that in furmark. What a fucking surprise. Fuck off to /v/ or something.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html

>>55325060
Lol saving this to laugh at all the nvidia shills repeating whatever the team green PR department sent them this generation

>>55325708
this have been debunked, 1080 sold much more than 980/980ti in same timeframe. Also 1070/1080 diesize is 314, while 980/970 is 398. Meaning, they have better yields than the 900series..

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>draws more power than a 970 under a typical gaming load

wew so much for that efficiency. so its both slower AND less efficient than a 2 year old gimped architecture from nvidia. amd need to die and be bought up by samsung already. at least then we'll have some real competition in the market.

>>55325775
sold != delivered there was a shit ton of people who preordered their 10xx and still didn´t have them.
also you compare a fully matured 28nm proccess to a bad to medicore 16nm proccess with nearly the same die sizes? are you retarded

>>55325798
Not to mention a 1070 draws less power yet is an order of magnitude more powerful

The 1060 will be an interesting card when it launches

>>55325812
its more than 25% smaller, also you compared new amd process as well.. from extremely crappy GloFo who cant produce for shit is one of the main reasons AMD is in complete shithole (and will stay there, since they have to buy GloFo for atleast 2bilion usd before they can buy anything else)

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>>55325717
I don't see the problem, shilly. Both in FurMark and gaming tests, the order is roughly the same(the most significant change in order is the 970 dropping 2 places, others are either a single shift or no change at all). Most important of all, no cards cross the 480 boundary, so the 480 stays at 3rd place, and the 480 itself only draws 4 watts more under FurMark. Your point is fucking retarded.

How long until the AIB's are due?

>>55325852
>draws more power than a 1070
>smaller die
>is much, much slower

what a steaming pile lol

>>55325852
1070 is like 200% more efficient kek.

>>55325845
>muh amd poo in loo
yeah ok boy....believe what ever floats your boat i dont care

>>55325798
Disgusting. How did Nvidia become more efficient going from 28nm to 16nm whereas AMD literally have the same efficiency as a 2 year old architecture, with their new architecure, going from 28nm to 14nm? Am I missing something here?

>>55325891
Nvidia could really put the hurt on AMD by dropping the price of the 1070 and making the 1060 the same price as the 480 while stomping the shit out of it while using less power

>>55325891
>>55325905
>>more power
>18W difference at most
>>much, much slower
>1.9 FPS slower than a card that is nearly twice as expensive and out of stock

Just stop trying, shill. Hand your resignation letter to Jen Huang yourself. I'm sure that your per-post payment is going to drop significantly now that novidya is hemorrhaging money.

>>55325918
they will though. going by last gen, when the 980 ti was about to hit the stores they dropped the prices of the 980 and 970 to accommodate for it and this coincided with the release of the 390. that price drop to the 970 resulted it becoming the best value bang for you buck 1080p card and the proof is the steam hardware survey throughout the 2nd half of last year.

the 1070 will be cheaper this time next year.

>>55325968
>1.9 FPS
What the fuck are you talking about? You have to be baiting at this point.

>>55325907
you are the one making up random claims, while retailers are reporting that 1080 and 1070 are best selling cards they ever had. The reason there are a lot of preorders is because everyone wants those heavily factory oc'ed cards like GeForce® GTX 1070 Xtreme Gaming with 1900 clock

>>55325994
>what are drivers

everyone knows that AMD cards get better quickly over time with driver upgrades, and novidya cards are only strong at the start, since LITERALLY every game is built with goyworks

Apparently it draws more power than spec.

RIP mobos and cheaper PSUs.

>>55325998
Citation please. Multiple if possible, since you claimed the plural.

>>55326015
Yep, definitely baiting

>>55325857
Probably within the month.

>>55325968
Refer to >>55324893. I can't wait to see novidya get wrecked more and more as proper DX12 games are released.

>>55325968
you don't get it do you. how does a MUCH smaller node, which would normally allow for much better power efficiency and heat output compared to 28nm, not improve any of those when compared to a 2 year old architecture? AMD have seriously messed up here.

look at the facts from an unbiased viewpoint for a second:

>1070 (16nm) = MUCH faster than a 970 (28nm)
>1070 (16nm) = more power efficient compared to a 970 (28nm)

>480 (14nm) = the same or even worse performance as a 970 (28nm)
>480 (14nm) = averages the same or even worse power efficiency compared to a 970 (28nm)

according to all shills the 1070 is only a die shrink of maxwell too, so that makes these new amd cards even more laughable. how does a shrunk chip on an old architecture have BETTER efficiency when compared to an architecture which has specifically been designed for the 14nm process node?

>>55326078
>complains about goyworks
>cherrypicks the one game literally built for AMD gpus
>still comfortably behind in it

>AIB set for the end of july
>XFX Double Dissipation RX 480 BLACK 12GB 1.7GHz
>blows out1070 with EASE
>whole month of driver optimization while nvidia gets literally nothing except an update to drivers for mirror's edge

can't wait, gonna be $300 well spent

>>55325189
I have a video for you senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kIBj7pnoHk

So no, and by the way you shouldn't buy a reference card, wait for custom.

>>55326113
It's not "built for AMD GPUs". It's built for DirectX 12. Look up asynchronous compute. It's too bad that nvidiot hasn't implemented proper support for one of DX12's most important features.

>>55326101
Both vendors improved power efficiency and performance compared to their previous generations. The 480 is much faster than a 380, and especially much more power efficient. However, you simply can't compare AMD's current gen to Nvidia's previous gen in terms of % improvement. That just doesn't work. What customers REALLY care about, however, is how much they pay for a GPU and what they get out of it. The RX 480 hits the sweet spot for that at the moment.

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I'll wait for the non reference versions. Maybe a factory OC and a better cooler will make an upgrade from the 280x worth it.

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>>55326221
ill wait for gtx1060
I am on dual monitors...
but I fucking rooting for AMD so much.. competition is good and zen is waiting for me

>>55326250
I'm not that excited for Zen because although I have a fx8350 I'm really not in the mood to buy a new mobo and rebuild my computer.

Just dont get the animosity between fans of nvidia and amd, surely cards like the 480 that are great value for money force the opposition to release something just as good, if not better, in the same price range?

But I don't care. I've just discovered pay monthly on Amazon and just bought 2 GTX 1080's

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>>55326101
The more apt comparison for Polaris 10 in the RX 480 is AMD's Fiji in the Fury Nano.
Fiji has high peaks in power draw because its a massive 64CU die using a lot of tricks to stop it from loading all the SIMD lanes all the time, but with more modest average clocks it pulls a nominal 186w in an intense 4k gaming bench.
Were this design ported over to 14nm it would destroy the RX 480 by incredible margins. Just eliminating the boost clock and letting it run at a fixed 850mhz at one voltage state will just power consumption down enough to reach the 480, and it will still perform better. All the RX 480 has going for it is lower variability in line power.

GCN just can't attain high clocks. As I've pointed out before, it is a short pipeline arch, being 8 stages. It wasn't made for high clocks, but AMD is trying to make up for less CU and less ROPs by pushing clocks on this design higher than any other GCN card to date.

>>55326271
soo..

it's good but not amazing?

i'm rather underwhelmed myself.

>>55323801
> AMD
> Drivers

The only drivers AMD do are ones that cause a car crash

>>55326327
For the price its good if you're upgrading from an old entry level GPU, or you're just buying a prebuilt desktop and don't have any GPU yet.

AMD could have done a lot of things to end up with a better performing GPU with the same power draw, but they wouldn't have been as cheap. I'm sure the margins on these cards must be pretty good. AMD has even stated several times that cost per transistor on 14nm is lower than 28nm, GloFo stated as much also.

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>>55323456

>>55325482
TW3 is Gameworks, plus the cheeki breeki like Nvidia

>>55323456
Wow m8, the best you could find is 480 losing to the 970 by 0.4FPS

>>55323629
Is English not your first language?
Also, it's Crossfire fuck face.

>>55325252
Cool?

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>>55325083

serious question, how is this pretty good considering that 8GB reference models of this card are going for like $250 whereas you can get a r9 390 for like $270?

am I missing something

>>55332832
It's not pretty good, in fact it's quite awful.

Even moreso when you consider the 480 is sold out everywhere so the cheapest you can get it is $350 on ebay.

A $250 390 or 970 is going to be a way better deal.

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>>55333102
sucks to not live near a microcenter. Thinking of taking a 10 minute drive tomorrow to pick up 1 of these for benching. Maybe even 2 of them for xfire benches.

>I'm on an EVGA 980ti Classy as it is

>>55323964
That's because Nvidia has 80% market share. Most games will favor Nvidia naturally.

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>>55325083
When 480 wins it is by a small margin but when it lose, oh boy