/mkg/ - mechanical keyboards general

>>55246475
first for my wife's son MacBook(tm) Butterfly(tm) Keyboard

Second for fuck Cherry MX.

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>>55246518
hey no
ok

>Budget
$200ish each
>Location (continent at least)
NA/USA
>Preferred switch type
Zealios purple, gatron ergoclear, cherry ergoclear, gatron clear, cherry clear, gatron brown, cherry brown
>Layout
ANSI/EN-US or ANSI EN-INT
>Form factor
KB#1 100%
KB#2 80%/tkl or 60% with nav cluster
>Backlight
KB#1 red single color
KB#2 not required, if does then ^
>Previous/current keyboards
Chink $20 simi-mech rubber, z-board (premo rubber), shit dell rubber, shit membrane

Help me please.

>>55246518
sixth for what would you get instead?

>>55247069
http://www.kbdist.com/

>>55247079
gateron

Are there any interesting matrix layouts out there other than the planck? I really love that aspect of the ergodox and would like something portable. I find myself mistyping a lot when I have to use a staggered keyborad.

A friend bought a keyboard with switchmaster blues, I'm still on the fence about buying a mechanical keyboard, but the keyboard he got was a good price but it has switchmaster switches on it. Are those any good?

For the guy who asked what keyboard that was at the end of last thread its a kbparadise V80

How's this Tomoko 104 backlit keyboard?

>>55246525
why you not using the zealio switches?

>>55248050
i hate them

>>55247092
Thank you. That would work very well for #2, however I will probably miss the deadline for the buy :( . Any alternatives?

Also, still looking for #1

>Budget
Less than $200
>Location (continent at least)
NA
>Preferred switch type
Dampened Cherry Reds/Topre
>Layout
ANSI/EN-US
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
Qsenn DT-35 Membrane & Razer Blackwidow

Any options help

Guy who bought
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/l/32653111593.html
here.

Got a message from the seller that the no backlight version only has blue switches and if they can send me that instead. Going to just cancel this order and buy the backlit one, I can swallow the couple bucks difference though I'd much rather not have any lights on it. Oh well. Just confirming now if they blue light has the black switches or do I have to buy the ugly multi color one.

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Gateron yellows with 67g springs + magicforce = life

Where can I get some blank ISO keycaps?

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>>55246475
Please internet. Affordable keycaps for my Matias Quiet switches. Please internet.

>>55249735
Matias are basically Alps clones right?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1362

>>55249829

As far as I'm aware, they're the same cap fitting, but I think there are differences deeper in the switch at some point.

That's a great deal. I think I might just buy that today. Thanks anon.

>>55249718
From the shops

>>55249912
Exactly. Personally I prefer them over most original Alps switches, but others would disagree. I also think that orange Alps suck ass.
>>55248159
I'm still waiting on an order from Winkeyless where I ordered the tactile Clear version, which is virtually identical. Am pretty thrilled to find out whether the two of us are in line on these. It'd be pretty bad, considering I ordered 200 of those, but I guess I'll be able to sell them for at least the same I paid for them, so whatever.

>>55249418
Apparently only the mix light version has black switches available.

>>55246475
>not even so much as F keys
Senpai do you do absolutely nothing with you computer but shit post?

>>55249418
That's a nice looking keyboard.

>>55250935
Well, you probably have a full keyboard, but your post is shittier than that anon's have ever been.
Lurk more, friendo :)

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>>55250935
I'm fairly sure it does actually have F-keys, like just about every 60% ever does.

>>55251071
>says a man whos keyboard is missing Control keys
yeah right

>>55250935
>not knowing about the presence of a function key

>>55251099
HHKB has its control key on caps lock.
Lurk more.

>>55249718
wasdkeyboards

>>55249718
UKKeycaps had a great set of high quality PBT blanks for ISO, but their shop is down for a couple days atm. Check it out when it's back up though, they're amazing

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>>55251099
You must be blind if you can't spot the control key.

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Just got this beauty. (thinkpad compact bluetooth keyboard) Not mechanical, but scissor switches are surprisingly good compared to normal rubber domes. And the trackpoint is soooooo nice.

Originally bought it for taking notes in class with my phone, but it might also end up replacing my realforce.

>>55249646
This is fucking awesome

>>55251267
That's a nice keyboard, didn't know it was a thing.

I don't get how scissor switches are better than rubber domes though, I hate them.

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Having a new keyboard or a new set of keycaps on the way is one of the best feelings.
What are you guys waiting for? I have a CM Novatouch coming, just dispatched today, arriving on tuesday probably.

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>>55251355
>What are you guys waiting for?
I'm waiting to go to Japan in about two weeks. Thinking of getting either a Filco Minila Air or a 55g Realforce. Though there seems to be alps clones and various other things around too, so ultimately I'll find out once I'm there.

>>55251355
Waiting for NEETbux, will order some switches, arduinos, and other DIY things.

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Just got some dye-sub pbt caps.

They feel great, but when I look closely there's some haze around the legends, like the dye bled a little. Is this normal?

>>55251473
That can happen with dyesubbed caps, it's pretty much indicative of the quality of printing. More expensive sets will typically not have this kind of problem.

>Budget
£150ish
>Location
UK
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Blue
>Layout
ANSI/ISO not bothered
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
Not bothered
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K70 Cherry MX Red

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here are my 2 babies

>>55251071
How do you use a keyboard without the letters printed on it ?

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>>55252160
you just know where the buttons are

>>55251267
scissor switches are so much worse then normal rubber domes dawg

>TFW waiting for planck

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>Budget
$125 can go to $150
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Silent and Soft
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Full or TKL. I just need the arrow keys.
>Backlight
Yes. White.
>Previous/current keyboards
N/A

>>55252209
How is that more efficient than having them printed ?

>>55247228
Atomic and Preonic are ortholinear layouts also made by the same guy

>>55252160
You get used to it very fast.

>>55252242
Also not that I'm currently looking into the Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire TK Wired Mini.

>>55252258
It can be prettier. Plus if you have weird layouts in your language (I for instance need ISO nordic layout), it is pretty much impossible to find a set of high quality keycaps with legends that fit that layout - whereas it's pretty easy to find blank keycaps in good quality.

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>>55252160
The same way you'd use any other keyboard

>>55250935
>>55251099
>>55252160
>>55252258
sure is summer here

>>55252258
It saves printing time. Kinda obvious, you must be retarded.

>Budget
Max 200 GBP
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Cherry browns, greens or reds (dont have experience with any other)
>Layout
US ansi qwerty
>Form factor
Ten keyless or smaller
>Backlight
Not required
>Previous/current keyboards
Razer Blackwidow, no complains other than the size and the super thick cable

Any feedback is welcome

>>55246475
>ISO sucks edition
4U

>>55252242
>>55252242
If your mainly worried about the nav cluster, then even though it is a 60%, >>55247092 with printed keys is $85+s/h

Silent&soft sounds like clears/whites or browns

Pic is the stock image from the site.

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what do you think, gents? I call it the Perfect Posting Keyboard

>>55253713
looks like you took things from a few different layouts and combined them to make it as inconvenient as you could

>>55251355
waiting for my Pexon custom cable that some guy here rec'd me last week

>>55253864
It's an ADM-3A, with og Macintosh arrow keys rearranged to correlate with vim movement keys, and backspace accessible from homerow. and a tab key. And all "stock" key sizes so you can actually buy aftermarked (dsa/unprofiled) keycaps

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Has anyone from the UK bought this from Japan via Amazon? If so, did you have to may import taxes?

Cheers.

>>55253560
I like but how do you use Function keys?

>Budget
Max budget is $150, but I would prefer something between $110 - $130
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
reds, blues, or blacks
>Layout
ANSI (This is the normal one used in the US right? I don't want the one with the weird enter button)
>Form Factor
100% Full
>Backlight
Yes, any color is fine
>Previous/current keyboards
Only used laptop keyboards and some really cheap $10 dell keyboard.

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Are there any new mechanicals that are big, heavy, and have understated aesthetics like the IBM Model M?

>>55253713
Do you have a link to that layout? I'd like to make some modifications.

>>55253945
There's HHKB on aliexpress now, senpai.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/New-Arrival-Free-shipping-HHKB-Case-Plate-Switches-Led-Stabilizers-Keycaps-DIY-Kit-For-HHKB-60/429151_32684284153.html

>>55254509
That's not an HHKB anon, that's a custom with an HHKB-style layout.

>>55254509
Fake?

>>55253945
Anybody had any experience?

Can anyone tell me what the easiest way to clean my keyboard would be? I'd assume taking all the caps off and cleaning it with alcohol or water would work but I dont want to fuck up any of the keys that use those wires in them.

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>>55253961

>>55254211
sure, if you have any ideas I'd love to see them

 
[{y:1.5},"~\n`","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=","Insert","Delete"],
[{w:1.5},"Escape","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/","Home","End"],
[{x:0.75,w:1.25},"Tab",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Alt",{w:2},"Backspace",{w:2.75},"Shift","Fn","←","↓","→","↑"]

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R3 Zealios ship when

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What do you guys think of the Cooler Master Novatouch?

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cute memes only pls

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>Fell for the memechanical keyboard meme
>Got Kailh Brown switches

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>>55254887
Cheers, keep an eye open for the next few threads.

>>55254927
I've had a few coolermaster ten-keyless keyboards over the years and they've all been great. You really can't go wrong.

>>55252258
its just as efficient you fucking reet
except if you need legends you probably hunt and peck
also they are cheaper then having them printed

>>55254099
just get a model M man nothing that is like it compares to it

>>55255505
kek, ya fuck up good nigga
atleast de-click them

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>>55255691
H-how do I do that? O-rings?

>>55256034
takes quite some work you have to de solder the switches and then open them up and remove the metal thing inside (not the spring obvuiously) that is making the tactile feedback

>>55256034
>>55256078
you would be better of just replacing the switches and this time choose gaterons

or throw the budget gamer board in the trash and start over with something decent

>>55256078
you don't need to desolder the switches unless they're plate mounted.

>>55256271
which is by far the most common

>>55247092
is that one new? I haven't been following for quite some time
Something like this, but in Iso?

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>>55254927
>capslk

>>55246475
I just got another $10 model m from my university's surplus store. I cleaned it up and ordered two missing keys for it. It came with a piece of paper taped to it showing wordperfect keybinds.

>>55254099

Unicomp makes new buckling spring keyboards like the Model M.

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>want to go for 46-key keyboard
>currently on my shitty keyboard some of my F keys must be pressed while holding FN because media keys are default
>major annoyance
>can't imagine having to do the same thing even for the number row
>and all that with the matrix layout

what the fuck am i getting myself into

>>55256960
but with far worse build quality

>>55255670
I already have one, but it's not working 100%. I'll probably just fix it or buy a new one in that case.

>Budget
as low as possible
>Location (continent at least)
Netherlands
>Preferred switch type
blue
>Form factor
100% Full
>Backlight
no preference

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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/87-37-9-key-light-color-keyboarded-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-blue-red-keyboarded/854682774.html

Anyone used this keyboard? How is it?

>>55257082
>"full keyboard without punching machine"
>getting a keyboard without punching machine
>in 2016
literally what are you doing

>>55257058
Absolute mad man

Can you guys tell me which mechanical keyboard i can buy for less then 40$? No wireless plz

>>55257115
magicforce

Does anybody know if there's any place that sells a white Pok3r with MX Reds and white backlighting? The only store I've found is this and it's out of stock, and I doubt there's many other 60% keyboards that have backlighting and MX Reds.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1424

>>55257115
go on aliexpress, they're the only ones who are going to sell mech keyboards for less than $100

>>55254058
Can anyone help me out with this?

>>55257347
ducky

Gateron browns or greetech browns? Looking to use mainly for gayming coming from mx browns.

>>55257633
gateron for sure they are the best switches

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Hey /mkg/ I need a new keyboard. It doesn't need to be mechanical, it's just that I love the simpleness of mech kbs design.
If it could be cheap (-40€) that would help.
>Pic related I don't want gaymer shit

>>55257705
Magicforce.

>>55257705
Magicforce 68 is about the only thing you can get for under €40

I have one with Outemu blues, really nice switches imo

>>55251099
>>55251071

You obviously don't know shit because thats a HHKB, fuckin normie

>>55258365
y-you sure told me...

>>55257799
>>55258193
Any chances there are Azerty layouts?

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>>55258465
>Azerty

>>55258377
you are a fucking retard though for real

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>>55258541
when do i stop though

where can i get a rk61 for cheap? i can only find them on amazon for 40 pounds but they dont deliver to sweden

>>55258528
Heck, I'm french.
That's the only thing that stops me from buying good keyboards ffs.

>>55258614
get the black one, then sweden has to let it in the country

>>55258659
m8 atleast try to find ISO UK boards, they are exactly the same except for keycaps. In your OS you can set your keyboard to act like an ISO Azerty.

Better still buy ANSI layout.

>>55258684
Yeah I guess.
But the only downside is that I'll have to buy a set of keycaps to replace them.

>>55258660
xD

>>55258696
Good luck finding a decent keycap set that supports Azerty though.

>>55255079
How are those Miami keycaps? Are they a decent investment for a 60%?

>>55258755
blanks nigga

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>>55258797
Fuck blanks nigga.

>>55258755
Found the perfect one: http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/french-filco-majestouch-2-tenkeyless-nkr-tactile-action-keyboard.asp
WHY THE FUCK IS THE PRICE SO HIGH

>>55258932
m8 my Filco Minila white was 230 eurodollars after import taxes.

>>55258795
they are thin pbt for the price of thick pbt so if you want your moneys worth they are not
if you just want them because they look cute then fucking hell yea they are

>>55251117
>using a modifier key to get basic goddamn keyboard functionality
>have to squeeze in arrow keys, insert/delete/end/home/pgup/pgdown/sysrq/scroll lock/break/numpad as well
Absolutely stupid. But what else did I expect from the fucking dumb as goddamn dirt smartphone generation?

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>>55258955
Well that's a high price.
Fuck I guess I'll never have a good keyboard.
I guess I'll be stuck with the Madcatz V.5
>pic related that's me right now

>>55258978
Aight, thanks for the info. I'll probably look for another set then since i want my moneys worth.

>>55258986
>Madcatz V.5
I barfed a little.

>>55259016
Hey, I was young and dumb.
W-wait, I still am.
Nevermind then.

>>55259080
If I were you I would buy that sweet Filco TKL though. That thing is going to last you a lifetime.

>>55259106
I'll consider that, it seems like a nice keyboard anyway.

>>55258932
>Spanish layout only available in Cherry MX Browns
WTH They only need to swap the keycaps isn't it?

>>55259461
Spanish layout = low demand
MX-Brown = commonly used

See a pattern?

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>>55258365
>You obviously don't know shit because thats a HHKB, fuckin normie
Tell me about how my HHKB is a HHKB anon

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>>55258795
id say yes.
they are indeed cute as fuck. and while they aren't super thick PBT, they aren't too thin either.
here they are next to some ABS caps

>>55256850
anyone help an anon out?
I really like that layout but I'm way too used to ISO

>>55260262
it's available in iso
all you had to do was read the page

Whats a good place to get some keycaps for my vortex pok3r?

http://www.geekkeys.com/black-blank-pbt-104-keyset/
Are these keycaps worth buying, or is the price too good to be true?

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FK-2001 keyboard
>A is super sensible
>have to press D all the way down to register a press
what can i do

>>55258795
For money's worth get gateron thick pbt. It is available on mechanicalkeyboards.com

>>55262076
What kind of switches does it have?

>>55262076
why do people like keyboards that look like they've been used as ash trays?

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New to mechanical keyboards and on the look out for one. Is there any place online where I can customize and order one?

Anyone have a Plum 87/104?

>>55262465
Alps

>>55249646
I have that same keyboard.

I'm not sure if you know this, but it's literally a white labeled clone of some shitty Chinese alibaba manufacturer.

No, seriously. Check this out:

https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Wired-mechanical-backlit-USB-keyboard-with_60469930948.html

I actually do like that keyboard, but I find it funny that for once some cheap Chinese shit came in decent quality.

>>55262956
Which alps though?

>>55263175
i think its "alps.tw Type T1, probably Hua-Jie AK series" or "Blue Simplified Alps Type III"

>V80 Matias QC has key chatter
JUST

>>55246475
>Budget
$120.00
>Location (continent at least)
USA East Coast
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Blue
>Layout
ANSI/EN-US
>Form factor
60 - 68 Key, Staggered, Plate Mount, Black Color
>Backlight
Preferably No
>Previous/current keyboards
Das Ultimate 1st Revision, MagicForce 68-key Currently

My dream keyboard is probably the TEX Yoda but I can only find the Thinkpad branded one for like $350 w/o Shipping at some Chink Site. I would kill for one (and arguably break my budget up to $200 for a 60-key plate mounted black keyboard with trackpoint.

Other than that, anything closest to the TEX Yoda without a TrackPoint?

>>55262076

open the switches and blow them out or see whats wrong. you just slide two screwdrivers on the tabs to the left and right side of the switch and pull up on the middle part. Just make sure not to bend the click leaf (beacuse it will change the way the switch feels) and put it back in on the right side of the housing.

>>55250113
>I'm still waiting on an order from Winkeyless where I ordered the tactile Clear version, which is virtually identical.

Same. I placed my order on the 14th and they're still not here yet. They've been sitting in Chicago for the past few days. :^(

Fags on my TS server have been complaining that my Model Meme is too loud. Is it time to try Topre?

I have literally no idea where to start with other switch types or board brands.

>>55264064

time for push to talk and use a headset-mounted mic turned down

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>>55263664
>cherry mx

Check out what my mechanical keyboard does.

Sometimes when I press my n key, i get anywhere from 2-4 Ns. Sample:

nnn
n
nn
n
n
nn
n
nn

Never had this problem on a rubber dome. Don't fall for the mech meme, people.

>>55264121
I've resorted to ptt recently and I use a headset mic. I just don't like ptt very much.

>>55259565
This is the most autistic photo I have ever seen.

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>>55264064
silenced topre is very quiet
far more than any mx/alps can ever be

also as someone who has to hear a cherry blue on TS from someone that refuses to PTT,
fuck you.

>>55263664
why dont you get a tada 68
its like you want to pay more for less or something

>>55263112
Yea hella solid for the $40 wasn't a huge fan of the outemu switches it came with they weren't bad don't get me wrong just not as buttery smooth as some gateron yellows with 67g springs

>>55264370
What is a tada 68?

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>>55264530
ultimate value

https://www.originativeco.com/products/tada68

>>55264690
Looks about what I want, but the "perfect" keyboard would have a TrackPoint, which I know is very rare and coincidentally the TEX Yoda is the perfect combination of everything I want in a keyboard.

Oh, and I'm not gonna wait two fucking months for that. I'll probably find a TEX Yoda by then.

I've got a Leopold FC750R. What do I need to know about the keycaps before I buy a new set for it? I've heard them mentioned as having a strange profile, is that right? Any estores to look at? I'm in Australia.

>>55264145
you looked under the cap to see if it's clean?

>drop beer on $100 keyboard
>clean it, some keys still sticky
Oops

>>55249646
How do I get one of these?!

Looks 10/10

>>55264973
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Shot-PBT-Keycap-104-Set-for-Chery-MX-Keyboard-Key-Caps-Sun-Raise-/282045974501?hash=item41ab4007e5:g:HjUAAOSw9etXQchu

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>>55264999
Sweet! Thanks. Any chance you'd know how to find this one in pic related?

>>55265009
idk man, I just happened to be looking through keycap sets and it was one I saw earlier

>>55265026
Oh well, thank you anyway! :)

>>55265009
me again.. it was a past drop:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/npkc-gradient-keycap-set

>>55265064
Nice! Thank you mister!

>>55264973
Would not recommend anything made by tai-hao

>>55265312
Why?

>>55265312
low quality, high price

>>55265315
>>55265336
Check out gateron thick pbt instead, same price, insane quality.

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New to mkg but my friend is giving me his razr keyboard and I'm wondering if I can change out the keys and board? I like the feel of the greens though.

>>55265345
Change the keys, board, chassis, and cabling.

Finish up by killing yourself.

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>>55265345
>razer

>>55265388
>>55265359
hey! I like the feel of the green switches. I haven't really experienced anything other than mx cherry, browns, and clear. I didn't care for those. Anything similar to the greens? Do greens feel like razer greens?

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>>55246475
MASS DROP WHEN?

>>55265417

Razer greens are close to MX blues

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>>55265466
>TFW Lenovo was settling an official Thinkpad version to the Chinks

>>55262508
because they have regular uncircumcized functionality unlike the rest of this threads memeboards

>>55265341
man are u some shill that couldnt make it into the groupbuys
i havent heard any bad things about taihao besides that stupid coating

>>55266151
Can you explain what this coating thing is about?
I've only heard complaints about the thin keys or whatever.

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Is anyone else here getting a TADA68?

I have a hard time justifying it, but I don't think that I can resist that value, even at 30 bucks shipping.

>>55263339
>key chatter suddenly disappears
Bloody hell. Now I'm not sure whether to RMA or not. Also, it seems like it's more related to ghosting.

>>55266443
I ordered a TADA68
kinda excited but i wish they offered zealios switches i would of paid a premium for those
>>55266239
I'm not sure what Taihao was thinking when they applied this coating but it is said to give a sticky feeling if it was shipped in extreme shipping conditions but other people just dont like the feel of it
some people have discoloration from the coating but its just the coating being discolored and it washes off easy
most groupbuys ask tai hao to not apply the coating so its not like it even matters unless you buy them off a website w/ it on
its hard to find doubleshots at that price tho so u take ur pick if u think thin PBT isnt for you
thin PBT > any ABS imo but i dont care enough to buy GMK

>>55266608
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/68-Keys-Mechanical-Keyboard-Customized-Set-PCB-Positioning-Board-Case-No-Switches-and-LED-Keycaps-included/32572470432.html

And now I just discovered this here.

Looks like I won't be getting a Tada68 after all.

>>55266647
i would DIY if i had the equipment to do so

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>>55266779
Soldering irons aren't expensive anon, you can get cheap ones that do the job for around 10 bucks or so.

>>55266443
Want a dumb question?
What's the proper name for that metal wire without any insulation?
I see you've got a whole spool of it but I can't find it anywhere.

Who's OEM for geekkeys thick pbt caps?

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>>55266829
You mean the solder?

I'd rather not use that as wire if I were you, it'd literally melt the moment you try to solder it to something else since that's the whole point of it. Though if you want uninsulated wire for some reason, I'm sure you can find that just by searching for "uninsulated wire".

>>55264818
> What do I need to know about the keycaps before I buy a new set for it?
Old leopolds had non standard spacebar stem positions. Check it before you order anything.

>>55266789
i would but im a klutz and those types of things stress me out hella
im just avoiding my fears

>Korea is the holy grail of Cherry custom keyboards
>You can literally only buy Gon
>You can't buy any other keyboards because you need Proxy and Korean ID or whatever the fuck it's called

Ebin

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>>55267086
Trust me anon, it's easy. Not to mention fun and really satisfying.

This is what my first time looked like, and it still worked perfectly fine. There's nothing to be afraid of, because no matter how much you fuck up, there's always a solution.
I bricked a PCB and ended up handwiring a board once. Nothing to be afraid of.

>>55267139
Just get a Tex CNC case. Costs about 150$ and is nearly up to par, it lacks the GH-cred though.

>>55262514
WASD Keyboards

where can I buy PBT key caps? UK layout (Filco)

>>55266886
>uninsulated wire
Still can't find anything on AliExpress, whatever.
It just looks neat in your keyboard, but I'll just use the regular wire then.

>>55267152
can you post the circuit layout? I'm really interested in how it works.

>>55267393
It's just a matrix connected to a micro controller. Incredibly simple to wire together and program.

Info on key matrices: http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_Key_Matrices_Works/

I'm looking for a backlit 60%, preferably with MX Reds that I can use for traveling and the only one I've found so far is the Pok3r and the KBParadise V60.

Should I just get the Pok3r if I'm going to put it in my bag when I'm leaving the house since it has the aluminum frame, or are there other keyboards I should consider?

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>>55267393
Pretty much what this (>>55267430) anon posted. Handwiring a keyboard matrix is ridiculously simple. You just make rows with the diodes and columns with your wire and then hook that up to the controller, the rest is a matter of configuring your matrix in the firmware (also really simple business).

>>55267379
Which exact part of the wiring are you referring to?
Those uninsulated wires you're seeing in this (>>55266886) picture are just the contacts of the diodes, connected with solder, both of which you can find on aliexpress (or just about anywhere for that matter).

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-sales-100g-0-8mm-60-40-Tin-Lead-Solder-Wire-Rosin-Core-Soldering-2-Flux/32432310412.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10017_405_507,searchweb201603_10&btsid=e152d211-72c9-4707-bacb-2688d8918b9a

>>55267152
jesus christ anon these are the things im scared of
im literally a simpleton who bought a hhkb so i can feel cooler than everyone else for having an obscure layout and pay extra for topre relative to other boards

>>55267497
>are just the contacts of the diodes
Shit, man. It all makes sense now.
You just saved me hours of clipping legs off diodes and cutting fire just for part I cut. That would have been dumb. Thanks!

>>55267526
>fire
*wire. i'm tired okay

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>>55267505
overcome your fears anon, the worst that can happen is that you fuck up and learn from the mistake that you made.

Nothing grants you coolness points like spending more money on parts for a keyboard than an actual keyboard would cost, breaking shit and then spending even more money in a half-assed attempt to fix it.
No seriously, just take the plunge. Start with something small like a numpad if you're scared, I'll even hold your hand through every single step if you'd like.

>>55267526
Cheers, have fun and keep us posted. What do you plan on building?

>>55267573
>What do you plan on building?

A Terminus Mini clone, probably. But it would cost me over 120$ in parts, which is a bit over my budget that started with a "I'll just get this 40$ chinese mech and be happy with it".

So if I get a pile of money together before I give up on the whole idea, it will be a Terminus Mini.

>>55267638
Did you find any parts yet (e.g. plate or case) ? I've been wanting to build a 40% myself sometime, and I'm quite curious to see that this matrix layout is all about.
I was thinking of designing my own PCB, but that's still going to take a while.

>>55267666
I will probably scam some local laser cutting shop into giving me a solid deal on a tiny (by their standards) order of metal/acrylic plates.
I won't go the PCB way, since that's hella more expensive. And the site you linked me yesterday already designed plates for me, but I'd still have to design a PCB. So PCB would be a total waste of time and money for me.

>>55267732
Yeah, I'd probably etch and drilll my own PCB if I were to design one. The main reason I want to learn PCB design is for the sake of future projects and also just general electronics since I'll be entering EE later this year and it never hurts to already know some things. And because every time I've hand-wired something I begin to question the decisions I made in my life halfway through the process.

Is it bad to want a keyboard with a 10key attached to it?

So far in this thread I haven't seen one aside from the old IBM ones, is it some meme I'm not understanding?

Hey, can anyone help?

>Budget
100€ (Can go a bit over if the board is really good)
>Location (continent at least)
Europe (Estonia)
>Preferred switch type
Not sure, but I would like a board that's quite silent
>Layout
Both ANSI and ISO are fine. Would prefer Swedish layout (because I'm pretty sure Estonian ones are impossible to find). English ones are ok too
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Don't really care.
>Previous/current keyboards
Chink membrane keyboards

>>55267948
It's just seen as redundant in mechanical circles. It just wastes space between mouse and homerow.

Also, once you go tenkeyless, you never look back. I recommend it.

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Model M & F > All

>>55268513
that's a bad keyboard

>>55268527
Have you used one?

>>55267964
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/swedish-finnish-filco-majestouch-2-nkr-tactile-action-keyboard.asp

You can also get a keyboard from WASD and customize it to how you want, I live in Sweden and got my ISO keyboard with Swedish layout from them because it ended up costing just as much as buying something like a Filco here. Blues are the loudest switch, browns and reds are pretty reasonable.

>>55268579
Should I get some kind of O-rings for noise dampening?
If yes, is there any difference between them?

>>55268662
They help a lot with blues but they're not really needed on other switches IMO. Look up some switch noise comparison on Youtube

>>55267430
Really neat. Thanks for the link. Is this possible with an arduino or can't it poll that fast as needed by a keyboard?

>>55268843
It's 100% possible.
3$ Arduino Pro Micro has a capable processor that's good enough for keyboards. Planck, Terminus Mini and others use it. It can even store several layers in the on-board EEPROM storage. Team behind Terminus Mini made some powerful firmware for it, so you don't even have to write anything yourself.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item//32284746884.html

>>55264147
Bind the key to a mouse thumb button. Activating by noise threshold is just rude.

>>55268884
Am I correct to assume that this would work with the TMK firmware?

>>55269126
It would.

>>55269179
Nice, thanks.

>>55266829
Try looking for jumper wire

>>55266443
I want one, but I'll likely miss out on the buy.

>>55265910
Source!

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I need more IBM's

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>>55254099
Model F reproductions

>>55269931
They don't sound the same as the originals.

>>55269938

You're right, they sound better. Custom parts and full steel construction will do that.

What does ISO have to do with the keyboard?

>>55269949
Ew no they definitely do not sound better. There's a lot less metallic 'ping' sound after the key is pressed - for me this is what made the Model F so great. Joe definitely did a good job with the reproductions though.

>>55269974

are you seriously complaining when there's less metal buzzing after the keypress?

stay pleb

>>55269984
Yes I am complaining, it made the Model F's sound so fucking great. It's the one thing that puts me off buying a remake.

Are you really calling me a pleb for not liking what you like? Fuck off.

>>55260432
oh well, thank you anon
do you recommended the tada68?
Also, I wanted to try Zealios, how do clean gaterons compare to these? I usually like Clear / Brown

>>55270072
*recommend
also, where do the cool kids source blank pbt caps for this layout these days?

GIVE ME THE CHEAPEST AND BESTEST MECHANICAL KEYBOARD.

NOW.

>>55270072
it's a group buy
no one is getting one until august

you'll probably like gateron browns

>>55270163
that doesn't exist.

The best mechanical keyboards are beam spring keyboards or capacitive buckling spring keyboards. Both are old and can be expensive in good condition.

I think there's a 30 dollar cheap mechanical keyboard also.

>>55270163
>cheapest
Chinese knock-offs

>bestest
Space Cadet

My Magicforce 68 with Gateron Reds has key chatter something fierce. Is there a way to fix this through software? Or should I just return the fucker?

>>55270855
>Is there a way to fix this through software?
Of course.

Oh wait... you bought a closed-source keyboard.
Blame yourself, friendo :^)

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>>55270855
>>55271099
make it open source

Topre Type Heaven worth getting? It's about 140 CAD right now. Little bit new to this whole thing.

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>>55271228
You'd be better off getting a Novatouch. Both the Type Heaven and the Novatouch have shitty ABS keycaps, but in the case of the Novatouch you won't have any problems finding replacements since the stems are cherry mx compatible.

If you don't want the Novatouch, then I'd recommend getting a HHKB or a Realforce. Or something else than Topre altogether.

>>55271263
Right, I forgot about the stems. Looks like I'll go with that Novatouch.

Thanks for the help.

>>55271323
Enjoy your keyboard anon.

Should I seriously consider putting stabilizers on 2u keys? Do they make a noticeable difference at such for such short keycaps?

Also, where can I buy them? Costar or cherry, whichever fit the DSA keycaps from PimpMyKeyboard.

>>55272016
Stabilizers making hitting the edges of keys feel smoother. The type of stabilizer you should use depends on what kind of keyboard back plate you have.

>>55272301
But it won't break or anything without it?

>what kind of keyboard back plate you have.
I'm designing it and not sure if I should bother with holes for stabilizers.

>>55272348
If you don't want your keys that are larger than 2u to be wobbly pieces of shit, you sure as hell should

>>55272412
There won't be any keys larger than 2u, that's why I'm asking.

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hey /mkg/, planning to get the rapid-i as my first mech keyboard, is it any gud for a first?

Is it possible to put new keycaps on? Im gonna go for the browns, and put in O rings to make it quiet.

>>55272728
No. Get a Model M or F.

>>55272748

No thanks, I dont want my friends to think im autistic and watch anime, so yeah. Also space is pretty important for me, thats why I went for tenkeyless

>>55272794
Most of the anime watching bellends on here have some small ass keyboard with miami keycaps.

Look up Model F Kishaver, Model F77, and Model M SSK.

>>55272828
give me 1 good reason to go for a keyboard that looks like that.

Can anyone describe the difference in feel between Topre and Cherry?

I'm a poorfag so I can't afford either yet.

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>>55272929
Because it looks a lot nicer than that backlit bullshit you sent.

>>55272973
That looks like absolute shit you bent table motherfucker.

>>55273020
LOL can't afford it m8?

>>55273046
I have 2 customs from Korea already, why would I want some shitty old keyboard that looks like crap?

>>55273104
I'd rather wonder why someone with two korean customs wants to buy a cooler master.

>>55273104
You'd buy asian chinkshit customs over a good old IBM? Fuck off.

>>55273126
im the guy who wants to buy the coolermaster, never ahd a mech keyboard before. But yeah I guess its bait, im gonna buy it.

>>55273162
I see.

Cooler masters are quite fine, the non-backlit ones are better, but the one in question is just fine too. Go right ahead and enjoy your purchase.

>>55273126
What?

>>55273143
It's gookshit, not chinkshit. Spend some more time on 4chan and maybe you'll figure it out in due time pleb. And the "asian chinkshit" you berate is 10x higher quality than your ugly dumpster crap.

>>55273162
You're going to buy it then eventually realize there's better shit out there. Buckling Springs, Topre, or Alps blue are arguably the best.

>>55272973
I'm not a fan of super super small keyboards with neon key caps but that thing is fucking ugly man

>>55273200
One of my boards is 30+ years old and still going strong. They're more reliable than your asian 'custom' shit.

>>55273200
>What?
You're in a conversation regarding as to whether anon should buy a cooler master keyboard or not.

>>55273218
Seriously? I think the thing is stunning.

>>55273225
It's also been used by god knows who. But sure, whatever floats your boat and satisfies your kinks. Make sure you smash your keyboard in gamer rage to showcase it's reliability.

>>55273226
Not the same guy. I just think the keyboard looks fucking ugly.

>>55273266
That's why you clean your keyboards Anon.

>>55273207
My current keyboard is shitty and too big. I just need something small, simple and with backlight, white prefered. I thought I would go with mechanical.

>>55273280
>Implying even doing a complete scrub down will remove the traces of fat old nerds from NASA on that piece of shit keyboard

>>55273304
>Implying an 84 Key Model F is a piece of shit
I think I'll have faith in anti-bacterial cleaning products, I do appreciate your concern though.

coolermaster guy here, quick question

Is asian custom made stuff expensive? whar sources to use to buy?

>>55273293
Poker 3? there is a white backlight on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Coating-Keycaps-Mx-Blue/dp/B014T4NR7U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466976141&sr=8-2&keywords=poker+3+backlit
you can get different switches of you want.

>>55273344
>Is asian custom made stuff expensive?
What the fuck do you think?

>whar sources to use to buy?
Buy a plane ticket to Korea and go to a keyboard shop.

>>55273293
There's nothing wrong with the keyboard you posted, I just think there's better boards out there. Avoid asian custom shit.

>>55273362
No one wants your curryboards, fuck off.

>>55273387
>Korea
>Curry

I see your geography skills are top notch. Can you tell me where Texas is? Where Alabama is? Where you fucked your inbred cousin and sister?

>>55273404
Shhh, /g/'s getting to him.

>>55273251
It's just way too big imo

>>55273362
>keyboard shop
You don't get out much do you Anon
>>55273404
>implying koreans don't eat curry

>>55273345
whats the benefit of the poker?

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There could be only one true ortholinear layout.

It's time for you to decide:
Planck or Terminus Mini?

>>55273463
I want an ortholinear TKL.

>>55273463
>There could be only one true ortholinear layout
That's not correct please stop saying that

On an unrelated note, I'd probably opt for the terminus mini since those larger modifiers seem a whole lot more appealing, but I could see the benefit of having two sets of side-modifiers with the plank.

>>55273476
Those are both TKL. Though you could also build an ortholinear 80%

>>55273500
>please stop saying that
it's the first time i said that
i just can't decide

>>55273500
I don't see any number/function row or a navigation cluster.

>>55273528
Maybe you're just blind?

>>55273528
Do you see a ten-key?

Hence TKL: Ten-key less

>>55273518
Please don't say it again.

And just get both, it's not like you can ever have enough keyboards anyway.

>>55273549
>And just get both, it's not like you can ever have enough keyboards anyway.
Please don't say it again.
I need money for food.

NEW THREAD

>>55273617
>>55273617
>>55273617
>>55273617

>>55273562
No you don't, money is made to be spent on keyboards.

>>55269972
It's a layout type.

>>55272748
Autism

>>55272728
It's ok. Don't go for browns with o-rings. There's barely any diffference. Also I'd buy clears if there are any rapid-is with clears since they are like better browns.

>>55272970
they don't feel anything similar
it's really hard to describe how topre feels but it's harder to start pressing but once you start it's really easy to go down
topre > mx or mx clones

>>55273207
buckling spring is garbage
get your meme board out of here

>Budget
~$130-150
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue, MX Browns, Buckling Springs (Don't know which one to get.)
>Layout
ANSI/EN-US
>Form factor
Preferrably TKL
>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
Shitty gayzer keyboard