Why aren't you using Manjaro, /g/. I've tried Debian,

>>55230294
>Antergos
>LTS
>fast and easy
>everything works
>many options for DE's and WM's
>no shitty green
>change name in /etc/os-release to Arch
>circle jerk with gen-yew-whine Arch screenfetch
>fuck any bitch of your choice

>heaven@heaven
>being so pleb that your hostname is the same as your user

>>55230450
It's obviously ironic dood

>>55230448
>>change name in /etc/os-release to Arch
I changed mine from Mint to Gentoo for a personal kek everytime I post a screenfetch.

>>55230294

>website's ssl keys keep expiring
>devs are incompetent

gr8 b8 m8

>Pacman is the fastest and cleanest package manager
debatable, and I'd much rather have my shit not break thanks to stupid package maintainers than care about speed
>Packages more stable than Arch
I can't comment on that since I've never compared the two.
>10 Minute install, fast and easy
Many distros do this today, even Slackware with it's ncurses interface is piss easy. Not sure how that's a benefit
>Everything just werks out of the box
As do most distros if it's not some obscure hardware that needs proprietary drivers to function and the firmware is compiled into the kernel.
>Options for many DE and WM's
literally every GNU/Linux OS has this
>Sexy green theme built in
I don't like green.

>>55230479
Fucking Kevin

>>55230294
but i do use manjaro. speaking of which, does anyone know how to keep the fucking vpn connection from dropping?

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it's nice

>>55230294
Because I'm using OS X and OpenBSD

>>55230294

yoo that looks fucking cool bro, better than any DE I've ever seen

do people bag on manjaro because it's arch easy mode or something?

>>55230294
>>55231274
>KDE Plasma
Dropped.

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But i am?

But I do
openrc version is comfy

gentoo just works for me.

>>55230294
>I've tried Debian, Arch, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Fedora, Slackware and quite a few others and heres why I always come back to Manjaro.
reminder to archildren that installing distros in VirtualBox for an hour does not make you a qualified expert

just installed manjaro. can one of u niggers tell me how to change to 12 hour clock on the lightdm lock screen

>>55231796
Just keep it the way it is, 24 hour time is superiour.

>>55231812
oh.. ok then

>>55230294
I was planning to as an alternative to Devuan, but I'd probably go with a source based distro.

>>55231319
>>55231319
I like your style, mate,
especially the taskbar

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I actually do use Manjaro in a VM on STRONGRIG.

I use it to access my payroll website that I can't get to work on Windows. I can only get it working with the icedtea plugin on loonix

Speaking of which, anyone know how to make the security settings more lax so I don't have to click all this bullshit every time?

>>55231907
Don't feel too bad, that dumbfag above you just hasn't discovered 48-halfhour clock yet

>>55230294

>>Packages more stable than Arch
Yes, because holding a package back 2 weeks makes it more stable.

>Options for many DE and WM's
Just like the distribution it's based on and every other distribution out there.

>>10 Minute install, fast and easy
Just like Arch and every other distribution out there. Only an idiot is concerned about the installation time, since an installation is something you do once per year, at most.

>>55230518

Your package breaking meme has nothing to do with pacman, the package manager.

>>55230294
>Why aren't you using Manjaro
*yet

>>55232175
how's it feel to work in a call center?

>>55230294
Because I use Arch?

>>55230294
but have you tried mint

>>55230294
Manjaro devs have a history of bad security practices, I do wish well for the project, but Sabayon does about the same and works better in my opinion

>>55231642
Don't break my dreams mate :(

Solus is the only way

>>55230294
I have to agree with you on this one, OP. Been using plain Arch before and I gotta admit, Manjaro is just better.

>>55230294
Windows 10 masterrace

Plus a sexy MS Lumia. Fuck yeah this thing is sexy.

I'm using Windows, gayboy
Discalimer: It's okay to be gay

>>55234684
Kek

>>55230294
>Sexy green theme built in

This default green colour is the most disgusting thing ever. Between the 200.000 tipes of green tonalities they have to choose the ugliest one. Congratulations, manjaro team.

>>55233934
I wouldn't know, I work in a retail store.

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>>55230448
>Antergos
>everything works

>>55230294
>>Options for many DE and WM's
>>Sexy green theme built in
Any distro has options for many DE/WMs. And if you like the default DE+theme so much, why do you care about the other DE/WM options?

>>55230294
>Pacman is the fastest package manager
Wrong

>>55238875
Thats the thing, the packages for the different DE/WM in the manjaro repos are all pre themed.

Antergos is objectively better

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>>55230294
But I am anon

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>>55238980
>vertical taskbar with vertical text

>>55230487
this lel

>>55238946
/Thread

>>55230294
>>Pacman is the fastest and cleanest package manager
Except that's bullsht. Pacman is so fast just because it doesn't check thoroughly for compatibility like ie. apt does.

>>55239187
Fastest to use
Update and install a program:
sudo pacman -Syu firefox
vs
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install firefox

And pacman has never fucked up anything for me. It's the arch unstable package repos thaat fuck things up.

I used it, but after using it some months you will move to Arch.

>Pacman is the fastest and cleanest package manager
Arch has this
>Packages more stable than Arch
No, on arch bugs are fixed in hours, on Manjaro it could take weeks ultil they update, they only copy the arch packages.
>10 Minute install, fast and easy
I prefer to spend 15 minutes installing Arch without bloat.
>Everything just werks out of the box
So do Arch
>Options for many DE and WM's
Same with arch
>Sexy green theme built in
Is the only thing I miss.

Plus:
>Some AUR packages aren't working on Manjaro
>mhwd and some random useless utilities

>>55239233
Just because you can type the command faster doesn't mean that the package manager itself is also faster. There are faster package managers than pacman

>>55239233
Why dont you just use -S ?

>>55239306
-Syu will also update your repos and then update your packages to the latest version

>>55239233
>a shorter commeand means it's faster
Are you literally retarded?

>>55239326
1 command vs 2 mate

>>55230294
same as arch but preconfigured and with outdated packages
meh bait

>>55239339
Please stop posting here

>>55239326
>>55239300
Name a faster package manager.
I was just proving with that that it's also the fastest to use. with short and powerful commands.

>>55239353
Sorry you got so TOLD

>>55239320
y is ok I guess
but why update
just update manually instead of all your packages

>>55239359
>Name a faster package manager.
xbps

Also "sudo apt install" doesn't even take much longer.

>>55239370
huh? Why update manually? maybe if there's a program that you don't want to update but other then that...

>>55239339
You don't need to update the repo list every time you installed a package. Also if you think one command is faster than two, just create an alias that runs both commands.

>>55230294
because antergos is better

>>55239683
>making hacky solutions
Sure sounds like apt is the superior one here, LOL

>>55239683
The way apt manages packages is slower

>>55239733
>alias
>"hacky solution"
Lmao how clueless are you?

>>55239849
How does your alias handle the repo update failing or did you even consider it? It's a shit hack, face it. You know nothing about using a real *nixlike system

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>>55239187
A new meme is born?

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>>55230294
>Too dumb for actual arch
>Way too dumb for g(lorious)entoo

>>55230294
I'm with you, gnome edition

because the name sounds like some shitty pasta sauce

>>55239950
>Implying installing arch is hard
The hard part is wasting your time trying to get graphics drivers working, disks mounted properly, sound working, volume controls working, internet/clock/locale etc set up.

Also in gentoo I compiled my kernel for 5 minutes and decided I didn't have that much time to waste compiling shit.

>>55239982
I'm not a big fan of gnome but I can see the appeal. Right on bud.

>>55239897
Seems like you don't know shit since you apparently don't even know what an alias does

>>55240192
I do. But if your repo update fails you probably don't want to run the install command. Did your shit alias account for that? Doubt it.

>>55230479
Why does it make you laugh? Loads of people use Gentoo?

>>55234381
Sabayon has even worse security practices

>>55230450
Sage goes in all fields? How do you not get the joke?

>>55240011
>it takes five minutes to compile your kernel
ditch your thinkpad and get a real machine

>>55230294
Using Manjaro-openrc with unstable repos for maximum comfy. Basically Arch with better kernel management

I'm using manjaro because it's not a time sink like almost every other distro.
I swear if another faggot tells me "it's in the documentation". Why don't you document this dick you too much free time having homo.

To each his own. I distro hop from time to time just to see how other distros have progressed. I still always come back to Debian. Everyone has their own preferences.

>>55240516
I couldn't read your post because you forgot to renew your SSL.

>>55230487
>webshit
who cares?
Name one thing bad the devs have done beside that.

>>55240538
install gentoo

>>55240593
Gentoo tends to break after very long periods of use (5 years or so), into a state where you can no longer install or remove any package without breaking the entire system. At least it happened to me twice, and I haven't figured out the way to recover from that yet.

Manjaro doesn't have this issue, and has a much wider selection of packages, despite not having USE flags' utility or good license management and config management tools.

Manjaro also isn't quite as stable as gentoo (for example, current "stable" mate's caja crashes due to a known bug in libgtk when lots of file I/O are happening), but it's still more stable than anything non-gentoo, so that's good enough for me.

>>55240516
>time sink like almost every other distro
Do you seriously think that almost every other distro is like Arch or Gentoo?

>>55241245
Gentoo is the only non-timesink distro outside of manjaro.

>>55240553
Ahahahaha Manjaro user here but still. Got em.

>pacman
>fast
It takes 20 minutes to install a 200kb package

>>55241360
There's no fixing clinical retardation.

>>55230294
>pacman doesn't let you modifiy package files and remove dependencies (unlike debian, man dpkg-deb)
>fastest package manager
try alpine's package manager, apk then you will know what speed is.
>just werks (1 actual valid point out of the 5)
>every distro has an option for de and wm's
>theme appearance is subjective

it is better than arch though, because it gives you the option to be systemd free and it just works(TM)

why should I use this over void gnu/linux?

>>55232175
Huh, I use the same payroll shit and it DOESN'T work in Linux. I wonder what's different with your set up.

>>55241981
Are you retarded or merely pretending?

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>>55239187
And stil apt fucks shit up colossally

>>55242025
I can't get it to work with Oracle/Sun Java, only the freetarded shit.

I think it requires some ancient version that is no longer compatible or something.

>>55230294
>pacman is the fastest an cleanest
I'd like to interject for a minute. xbps is better. In every aspect.

>>55242240
>uses github
>fails to work half the time
ok kid

>>55242240
With no packages

>>55242271
So what?
>fails to work half the time.
Hownup2date is your information? It "didn't" work like two times in a timespan of a year now, for me.

>>55242272
Yeah, nearly 7k packages clearly are classified as none.

>>55242327
>7k
My sides

>>55230479
... you do realize that you can change it with `-D` argument in screenfetch, right?

>>55242388
But everyone would see the argument being passed to screenfetch in that case. Lrn2rice, noob.

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>>55242413

>>55242132
that's ubuntu fucking up, not apt or dpkg

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>>55242433
What do you mean?

>>55242432
You literally disproved your own attempt at an argument with your own gif. Congrats on being clinically retarded I guess.

>>55242465
I'm not him

>>55242413
>>55242432, or just shrink window to fit output without command

come on, this isn't hard

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>>55242432
>gif
Why, Kevin?

>>55242479
>>55242465
Inbred

>>55238946
Just tried to install Antergos today. Nothing but errors from the installer. It's connected to the internet, and at the latest version. Clearly their installer is broken, as all the errors are download errors.

>>55242491
Because Kevin is a massive retard

>>55242451
which distro?
again, apt just follows whatever is dictated in packages and repos
if anything, the error is with the maintainer or package

>>55242551
b-b--b-bbubut I thought you could remove dependencies??/???!!!

>>55242551
Both debian and Ubuntu suffers from the cancer. And both of the distros use apt.

Apt was the last package manager to get package signing. Apt is a piece of shit and looks horrible

>>55242565
k

>>55231301
What's wrong with KDE?
It's stable and very customizable,
Looks pretty good out of the box too.

>>55230294
>Pacman is the fastest and cleanest package manager
Quality > Speed for me. And quality for me means customizability and extensibility. You can't beat portage, nix or guix in either of those department.

>Packages more stable than Arch
Any sane distro lets you choose between stable and unstable packages either way

>10 Minute install, fast and easy
Install time is irrelevant since I'm not a distro hopper

>Everything just werks out of the box
Not something I prioritize heavily. I don't go for the “out of the box” experience at all. I start with a minimalist base system and build it up from there.

>Options for many DE and WM's
Every distro has this. If it doesn't, it's a terrible distro

>Sexy green theme built in
I don't care, my desktop will follow my own color scheme either way.

tl;dr none of your points matter to me, and I have no reason to use manjaro

does that answer your question?

>>55230479
>>55242388
>>55242413
>>55242432
>kernel doesn't identify itself as gentoo
at least TRY

>>55242582
there's no point in having this discussion when you're not able to distinguish between a package manager and a package's dependency policy

no it wasn't, I can think of at least one that were later, pacman

>>55242582
This. Does it even resolve i386 dependencies yet? A year or so ago, if you were trying to install XYZ:i386, it would look for dependencies ABC:amd64 and DEF:amd64 instead of ABC:i386 and DEF:i386, which led to missing dependency issues, which meant you had to manually add every single non-amd64 dependency by hand.

>>55242620
You're comparing a package ecosystem with a package manager. AUR gives you the same customizability as portage, but has a lot more packages - so arguably, it's even more customization for you. Emerge's USE flags are great for managing package configurations, but nix and guix aren't and are worse than even pacman for customization.

Even when packages are marked stable, it doesn't mean they actually are. See: pretty much anything on debian nowadays, since they decided that stable meant "doesn't change" rather than "doesn't break".

>>55242669

$ dpkg --add-architecture i386
$ dpkg --print-architecture
amd64
$ dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386

>>55242664
It was, also, apt was created to do things that dpkg was not able to do, a mere extension. IDK why people take this sthi seriously.

>>55242724
correct
previous post is still wrong though

>>55242723
That doesn't answer the question.

>>55242745
It wasn't wrong about apt being a garbage

>>55238848
Yeah, Cnchi is broken, but I hope they'll fix it in the near future.

>>55242775
it enabled multiarch exactly so doing an install of XYZ:i386 properly resolves i386 dependencies

>>55242803
Nice try but actually it doesn't in any way.

>>55242712
>You're comparing a package ecosystem with a package manager.
Last time I checked, portage and pacman are both package managers.

>AUR gives you the same customizability as portage, but has a lot more packages
Does the AUR let me build packages with my own custom USE flags, and keep them updated automatically from git? Does it let me apply my own patches to programs I build, automatically, for every version of the package I install?

>so arguably, it's even more customization for you.
Customization isn't about the number of available packages, it's about the flexibility of configurations I can apply to those packages. Besides, it's not like there aren't also custom user repositories for ebuilds with the same number of available packages as the AUR.

>>55242853
You are retarded.
Yes and yes.
When you have only one option for one task, you obviously have less customizability than if you have ten. Thus, package count matters a fuckload.

>>55242853
You do realize you can feed compile arguments to the pkgbuild, don't you?

which manjaros come with apt-get?

>>55242832
couldn't think of any less cancerous package to test with, but it works for me™

$ sudo apt install -s openjdk-8-jdk:i386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  glib-networking:i386 libacl1:i386 libasound2:i386 libasyncns0:i386 [...]
Suggested packages:
  libasound2-plugins:i386 libbonobo2-bin:i386 libcanberra-gtk0:i386 [...]
Recommended packages:
  xml-core:i386
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  glib-networking:i386 libacl1:i386 libasound2:i386 libasyncns0:i386 [...]

>>55242853
>it's not like there aren't also custom user repositories for ebuilds with the same number of available packages as the AUR.
MY FUCKING SIDES!

>>55242901
And these compile-time options are configured with a consistent format in a central repository equivalent to /etc/portage/package.use, enumerated and displayed by tools, automatically masked or pulled in by your selected profiles and optionally versioned (so I could e.g. set USE="pax_kernel" for only

<=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-364.19

)?

>>55242945
Is there a package that the AUR has but no ebuild exists for?

>>55242972
You never used Arch for long have you? Ignorant morons are the worse kind

>>55242896
>Thus, package count matters a fuckload.
If everything I use is available in my repositories already, adding more packages won't improve my computing experience in any way.

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Manjaro = best distro

I think I'll install Manjaro in my next PC build only for all this fucking anons saying it's the best distro...

>>55242989
All I've seen so far is claims and nothing to back it up.

The arch wiki itself tells me that arch linux has no alternatives to USE flags, slots etc.; and I know from reading posts on the arch linux mailing list that customization is the opposite of arch's design goal (simplicity).

Go on then, post your equivalent of package.use. I want to see it.

>>55243029
>implying it's not the same retards posting it over and over again

>>55243044
Let's start then.

What package do you want to install?

>>55243063
>>55243044
Let's build MPC-Qt

>>55243063
>>55243080
One example that comes to mind is this: Let's say I want to build skype with

USE="pax_kernel -plasma -pulseaudio"

.

>>55243107
Wait, doesn't skype use pulse audio?

>>55243146
Not with

USE="-pulseaudio"

it doesn't

>>55242983
Shitloads.
Now, I won't count arrayfire, lapack, blas, cblas, lapacke, etc. since they're merely permabroken and not actually missing, but take for example the fact that most caja extensions are not available at all (there is dropbox, mail, terminal, share, image-converter and a few others though, but no gksu, arbitrary actions, folder-color, insync, audacious etc.). Kupfer is also missing, and it took years for palemoon to have an actual ebuild available. Even now the ebuild is permabroken and abandoned. There are also shitton of missing texlive packages. There are even threads about it, basically the maintainer is clinically retarded and removes shit he doesn't like 4noraisin despite other people asking for it for years.
vrms is also not available.

>>55243162
Well
>Skype requires PulseAudio for voice communication and does not support plain ALSA.

>>55242994
Nice movement of the goalpost right there.

>>55243203
Works with gentoo desu senpai

>>55243203
>>55243162
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/apulse/

>>55242909

answer me you autists!

>>55242432
>slow ass typing
are you mentally challenged?

>>55243196
>arrayfire
https://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=arrayfire
>lapack
https://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=lapack
>blas/cblas
https://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=blas
>lapacke
https://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=lapacke
>caja
https://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=caja
>kupfer
https://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=kupfer
>palemoon
https://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=palemoon

uh...

>>55243311
Not sure if retarded or just pretending. But I'm on /g/ so maybe I shouldn't be so uncertain.

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>people seriously praising pacman
>can't do package name globbing/wildcards
inb4 "just use pacman -Ql"

Why the fuck can't I just do pacman -Syu emacs* ?

>>55243348
Because people are not retards

Just installed Manjaro. How do I replace every logo and every trace of Manjaro into Gentoo

>>55243329
???

You were supposed to give me examples of packages in the AUR for which no ebuild exists. I pointed out the existence of ebuilds for everything on your list.

And *I'm* supposed to be the retarded one? Okay then, keep on living in your own world view

>>55243429
So, were you inbred or what? Knocked on the head as a kid? Lobotomized?

>>55243080
>Let's build MPC-Qt
Okay. I had to write an ebuild for this one, here it is

# Copyright 1999-2016 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Id$

EAPI=6

inherit git-r3 qmake-utils

DESCRIPTION="A clone of Media Player Classic reimplemented in Qt."
HOMEPAGE="https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt"
EGIT_REPO_URI="https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt.git"

LICENSE="GPL-2"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS=""
IUSE=""

DEPEND=">=media-video/mpv-0.17[libmpv]
        dev-qt/qtx11extras:5"
RDEPEND="${DEPEND}"

src_compile()
{
    eqmake5
    emake
}

src_install()
{
    dobin ${PN}
}

(suggestions welcome, I'm relatively inexperienced)

works4me though

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>>55230294
Antergos with XFCE here.
Only thing keeping me from using manjaro is that I don't like them using their own repositories.

I'll probably switch to Ubuntu at some point because of font rendering.

>>55243460
Needs KEYWORDS="**" and a version of 9999. Also needs to depend on media-video/mpv-9999 and dev-qt/qtx11extras-9999:5 (is that even the only qt5 dep you need?)

>>55243464

does antergos xfce use apt-get or pacman?

>>55243464
Antergos also uses its own repos.

>>55243516
Does your head contain mush or a rock?

>>55243501
Isn't KEYWORDS="**" implicit (i.e. just leaving it empty)?

>a version of 9999
Right, I forgot to mention the filename should be mpc-qt-9999.ebuild.

>Also needs to depend on media-video/mpv-9999
Fair enough

>dev-qt/qtx11extras-9999:5
This seems excessive. I doubt it depends on bleeding edge features of qt5-x11extras. There isn't even a -9999 version of that package in the default repo.

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>>55243516
wat? DE is independent of package manager, of course it uses pacman

>>55243517
It has its own, quite small repo in addition to arch ones while manjaro just has its.

>>55243550
>There isn't even a -9999 version of that package in the default repo.
My, what a shame.

>>55243552
Manjaro can use the same repos as arch in the same way antergos can. The difference is that it also offers stable packages for people who do more than play around daily and do, in fact, mind a broken X11.

>>55243579
I really don't care which one you use 2bh, both are serviceable and fulfill the same role.

>>55243565
Fuck off arch shill, it exists in the ‘qt’ overlay

>>55230294
I would use it if
1). There was an option like in Debian to only include free software with no blobs
2.) it wasnt using that hunk of shit pacman
otherwise it is really fucking impressive, they need to start using Let's Encrypt for their SSL cert for their servers though, also plus to them for not using systemd cancer.

>>55243609
What is wrong with pacman?

>>55243628
Debian babbies are butthurt that nothing is as awful as apt-get or aptitude, so they lash out like that constantly. Just ignore them.

I just will stay with windows 7 because of video gaems. I haven't tested windows emulation through linux though yet

>>55243628
It breaks shit like X all the time and is an obnoxious learning curve, especially with everything requiring a sudo apt-get install for most things and most commercial install scripts.

>literally arch linux base system with XFCE
why tho

>>55243669
Oh, you're just retarded. Carry on then.

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>>55243669
>It breaks shit like X
no
>>55243669
>everything requiring a sudo apt-get install for most things and most commercial install scripts
situational and if you need this don't use arch based shits
>>55243688
cause I'm lazy installing it all myself

>>55243688
It's not "with xfce", the point of manjaro is to be basically ubuntu based on arch, meaning you have access to the widest collection of packages available to any single linux distro, but you also have a full stack of graphical applications available by default and non-free firmware included and installed from the get go. The install media are available with various DEs.

>>55243636
are you one of those "NOOBUNTU IS SO BLOATED UNLIKE YOU BABBIES I CAN ACTUALLY USE THE CLI ARCH IS A REAL DISTRO DONT LISTEN TO THEM YOU CAN USE ARCH IN A PRO ENVIRONMENT JUST FINE" type of angsty children? Debian just works unlike Arch faggot, stay mad.

>>55243728
Oh the irony. Show me a systemd-free mate install on debian where pkexec works. I'll wait.

because I'm a gentoo elitist and use obnoxious unstable compiler flags

>>55243698
>MATE
trash, why would you want a DE unless you were a beginner, in which case use XFCE.
>systemd
uninstalled that and replaced with sysvinit and everything just werkz family, werks fine with my riced as fuck openbox Debian minimal install.

>>55243713
>but you also have a full stack of graphical applications available by default
you can select those easily during arch install
>and non-free firmware included and installed from the get go.
but the installer detects all that and install on install anyway
>>55243698
lol

overall manjaro seems stupid and just an attempt by a bunch of morons to try to steal arch traffic and put themselves in the middle l0l

>>55230294
Why should I use Manjaro? I don't want to reset my system's clock...
Antergos is much better

>>55243756
also
>OLD PACKAGES THOUGH
>not compiling all of your software
c u c k

>>55243823
>>55243813
Debidiots everyone!

>>55243832
No as I stated above, Manjaro is fantastic but i wont use it for two reasons, no option to only have free software installed and it uses pacman which is a personal preference, dont compare me to that idiot who hates a geniounly good distro

>>55243821
Antergos literally doesn't have a reason to exist. Manjaro is stable arch.

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>>55243832
you have to be 18 to post here

>>55243887
Antergos is just Arch with the Cnchi installer for people who are not mentally ill and want a system that works without the need of spending hours in order to install it

>>55243956
>there are people that installing base system and doing sudo pacman -S xorg gnome takes hours to figure out
lmao no wonder nobody takes this place serious

>>55243956
Or you could use architect like someone who isn't mentally hill.

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>>55244008
Can't stress this enough, use Architect for a perfect install If you can't install it yourself.

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>>55244003

It's a stupid process that does nothing. The argument I keep hearing is that it's teaching people Linux. It doesn't teach anything, because people just follow the wiki like a shitty how-to and don't understand what they're doing anyway.

Meanwhile I'm using http://fai-project.org/ to fully install my operating system according to my configurations files in my github in like 90 seconds.

Buy a laptop and basically replicate my entire environment over to it? Gimme another 90 secs.

>>55230294
> unironically using a handicapped arch distro
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55230518
> pacman breaks packages meme
Literally never happened to me in over 6 years of use

>>55244065
But... arch is the handicapped manjaro distro?

>>55244047
what's the connection of fai project with manjaro? and during the non-UI install you can learn about linux filesystems, how networking works, what each package does etc, it's actually a good introduction for newbies. Meanwhile with shit like manjaro you waste shitloads of space and sometimes have retarded bugs where X won't launch because maintainers forgot to update libxcb etc (happened before). It takes me 30 mins to fully install arch with xorg dwm chromium and all my dev tools and it only uses 1gb space with about 250mb ram on 64 bit with chrome open, nothing beats that.

>>55244097
>happened before
[citation needed]

>>55244096
Manjaro
> you can only install what they say when they say
> you don't control your edginess

Arch
> Fuck, go do what you want
> install what you want too

>>55244097
> he can't get his arch to run with less than 230 MB RAM
Lol ram hog

>>55244120
But that's wrong, you can install whatever you want whenever. It's just that since only archfags are NEET faggots, only they care about doing that systemwide.

>>55244097
>what's the connection of fai project with manjaro?

Nothing. I was commenting on the manual installation process that Archtards insist on.

>30 minutes

...holy shit, what a waste of time. Check the screenshot I posted, the installation on that machine took 86 seconds. And it's ready to go, fully customised and configured.

>>55244047
>The install took 86 seconds.

Noice. Is that a complete installation with WM and everything?

>>55244161
nice goalpost shift but original comment was that manjaro is worse than plain arch. take a loss like a man senpai
>>55244135
>doesn't know about zram
lol fagg0t

>>55244190
I commented on >>55244003

I don't give a fuck about the Arch, Antergos, Manjaro shitshow.

It's not difficult to follow a discussion, as in who's commenting on what, on 4chan...

>>55244160
Arch gives you rolling release. Manjaro cucks you by releasing packages like once a month

>>55244184
Yes.

>>55244216
Manjaro gives you the choice between a system that actually works, a system that actually works with packages straight off the github up to the second, or a full-blown archuck system where X breaks everytime you breathe in, and grub explodes everytime you breathe out.

>>55244239
I've never had xorg break unless I'm dicking with it and even if it does I know how to fix

>>55244255
So you've never used arch, then. Good on you.

>>55244213
It's not difficult when what being said is interesting, maybe better luck next time anon

>>55231319
>transparent terminal emulator background
>your doing it wrong famalam

>>55230294
What is Manjaro?

>>55232175
It works for me. Check your Java version to make sure it matches up. That's often the most common problem.

>>55244270
Come at me, dumb faggot

switched to manjaro from arch last night because couldn't get my beaglebone black working on arch.

>>55245546
>beaglebone black

i dont know what that is but i'm imagining some kind of small black dog penis shaped electronic dildo