Are the rumours true anon? Have AMD cucked Nvidia with the

Assuming you want a benchmark factory instead of AAA goy works performance, sure.

>>55113648
any new "leaks"

as for op, probably yes, they effectively made anything below a 980ti irrelevant, if not at stock, at mild overclock, and nvidia has no answer, as they will either cannibalize 1070 sales or put a sku out for retards to buy and let it die.

they effectively made anything below a 1070 on nvidias side useless.

once vega hits, amd may make the entirety of the nvidia lineup pointless and they will get by till volta comes where they either have async or they die as a brand.

>>55113976
This. It'll perform worse in games.

>>55113648
Also, it's still not even at gtx980 performance, what the fuck are you shilling? Gtx 1070 and 1080 are still much better.

NVIDIA IS FUCKED.
They just cut the prices of their cards for the first time in nearly a decade. You want to know when the last time this happen? When they got completely BTFO'd by the hd 4870. ITS OVER. AMD WON.

>>55113648
>barely competes with last generation's cards, much weaker than this generation's flagship

Trust me, nVidia has nothing to be afraid of. It might make some dents in the budget mid-high grade, but nVidia can just undercut them.

>>55113976
>>55113999
>>55114024
Well shilled Sanjay, Rajesh and Pajeet. You make a fine team my sons!

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this was the last time I remember ati/amd not being shit in the video market.

>>55114040
Nice try panjeer, you will not shill nvidia well today.

>>55114024
> a card design for the low end mid-range market is weaker than a card design for the enthusiast market
no way.

>>55114024
>>barely competes with last generation's cards, much weaker than this generation's flagship
>Trust me, nVidia has nothing to be afraid of. It might make some dents in the budget mid-high grade, but nVidia can just undercut them.

maybe they will undercut. But the biggest market for videocards is the 'budget mid-high grade' is the biggest market. Nivida can win top performing card all day which is great for your epeen but not so hot when you're trying to make money.

>>55114052
But that's the thing, anon. It isn't!

You can OC an RX 480 to 1070 performance with lower power consumption and better looking cards.

Nvidia is finished.

490/x when?

Nvidia is basically the apple of gpus. Theit prices have gone up $100 every Gen from 770 ,970 and 1070. They don't even have good drivers anymore it's just a cult following.

>>55114065
Proof?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/

>In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin.

IT'S OVER, AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

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3rd party cooled rx480 when ? I need to get one before july 11th

>>55114083
Nice try kyle, you're just not relevant anymore.

http://videocardz.com/61121/asus-and-msi-accused-of-sending-modified-cards-to-the-press

Nvidia caught cheating again!

Not only do they fuck with their drivers to lower game settings and increase fps, they also hand out cards with custom bios so the review cards can achieve clock rates no consumer card could dream of achieving.

What a despicable company. Save us, AMD!

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>>55114083
>IT'S OVER, AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

only even if amd's next desktop gpu line is shit they still can make money on processors and game consoles.

nvidia lives and dies on it's newest card lel

>>55114043
AMD was on top until the x1950xtx aka best dx9 GPU ever made.

>>55114135
Nvidia is for servers and supercomputers and cars

Getting an RX480 this summer. I thought about this and since it uses less then half of a 1070 watts and AMD now has superior driver updates this is really a no brainer. Nvidia should cut their prices on their current Gen products since you can't find a 1070 for less then 700 quid.

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>>55114141

i'm sure all 10 of their customers will save them if this line of gpus fails.

>>55114174
Considering the profit margins, I'm sure they will.

>>55114043

>Forgetting the 4000 and 7000 series

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AMD RX470 just a little under the non ti titan.

$150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150 $150

>>55114231

Kek

A $150 BTFO a 1 thousand dollar card

I genuinely feel bad for the people who bought the Nvidia future proof meme

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>>55114083
>>55114135

I cant wait for AMD to die. Today their stock only went up 7%. This fucking company is dead.

>>55114272
>>55114231

How old is the Titan?
Are you retarded?

HD7790 destroys the HD5870 and HD6870, IT'S CALLED FUCKING PROGRESS YOU DUMB FUCKING SHILLS

>>55114272 (Not the Titan X)
>>55114310

The Titan is currently selling for around $440, the RX470 will be $150.

>>55113648
>GTX 1070 144%
>GTX 1080 177%
I think AMD did exactly what they've said they would do: they are not competing with NVIDIA's latest cards.

The people looking for 1070 or 1080 performance levels aren't going to buy something that's much slower.

>>55114305
>I can't wait to pay crazy prices for Nvidia GPUs because there is no competition

You're an idiot.

>>55114513

This graph isn't fair considering AMD has no even released 1 update driver for the RX series. I expect a good performance jump a few weeks after release. OP is probably a Nvidia shill

>>55114527
it was a joke...7% in one day for AMD is realllyyyy good. Expect to see AMDs stock level out after the release then gradually go up.

>>55113648
$200 for 980 performance is fine by me

>>55114043
the 4800 line
the 5770+ line
the 7850+ line
and in terms of how long that card has held its own, the 290 and 290x are fantastic too.

>>55113989
I want to believe.

>>55114693

That's considering 2 years of driver updates for the 980 and none for the 480.

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>>55114597
Well shitposted.

>>55113648
I''l probably buy an Rx 480 eventhoug I have extra cash simply because it's too hassle looking every year for a new expensive video card, it seems gpu manufacturers are following the trend how smart phones getting better and better every year in this case rx 480 made 980/fury irrelevant.

>>55114305
Bought 200 shares, desu.

>>55113648
Big Pascal will bend Polaris over and ravage its tight ass.

>>55114700
This, the 290x runs amazingly well on the newer games too.

>>55114084
Most cards released on 29th june will likely be non-refence 3rd party coolers. So it should be doable.

>>55114864
pascal is honestly a complete fucking disappointment in all regards, the 1080 is more expensive than a 980ti by a significant margin and less them 5% better once ocs are taken into account. the 1070 is currently the best buy by vitrue of its not ungodly expensive but still well over priced.

polaris may not get the same benchmarks, but it took the high end gpus and moved the price way the fuck down...

OH one more thing... the 1080 is an A0 as in no revisions...that is the most damning thing about it, they had to rush it the fuck out... ask yourself why?

>>55114897
considering that the 290x came out nearly a year before the 970, and trades blows with the 970, and can beat the 970 in many games, i would say the value of that card held up pretty fucking good all things considered, the 700 series didn't hold up that well over time.

AMD stock up 7% in one day. Nvidia on the other hand filed for bankruptcy

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>>55114407
That's regardless.

Older cards can't match new cards, would you prefer if AMD and Nvidias newer cards weren't faster than their older cards?

You're a fucking idiot.

>>55114043
Had one in my first build, was great for playing far cry and hl2 all day long. Feeling nostalgic af right now.

>>55114845
Who did you buy through? I'm looking to buy some too.

>>55114968

the 290x was $700 on launch and competed with the 780ti, the 970 is roughly equivalent in performance than the 780ti. AMD didn't improve, they rebranded while NVIDIA put out a card that was equal performance on a die half the size of GK110 and hawaii.

that equal performance is just at stock clocks on the 970 too - a 970 OCs much better than the 290x does and easily outperforms the OCed rebrand 390x.

>>55114997
Does it make much of a difference? I mean, Courtage tends to be very cheap. A Swedish broker handled it for me.

>>55114845
Good shit...theirs a guy that be on here with a fidelity account he has been making a good amount.

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>>55115000
Yeah and an overclocked r9 390 will subsequently shit on a 1.5ghz 970. GCN is an high IPC architecture, even a 100mhz overclock gives a nice performance boost. And this bench was made in 2015, now with improved amd drivers, proper dx12 support and nvidia gimping the gap is even bigger

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>>55115139
>But m-muh power usage.
Overclocked maxwell is also a power hog, as you see there is only a 30w difference

>>55114061
Seems to work well in the auto and marine industry.

>>55114982
>>55114310
Pretty much this. Fanboys are fucking retards.

>>55114061
Or just don't be poor.

>>55114084
Not gonna lie, that's an ugly ass card.

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>>55115250

nice meme

>>55115000
550$ but coin miners fucked the price for 6 months.

>>55114043
9x00 line, the x1950, the 4890, and the entire 5k line were all the best gpus on the market at their release.

6k was also great, and the 7k could have been the best if they realize it earlier that it OCs like no tomorrow. The OC/GHz+ editions were the best cards of their era in performance.

The RX480 looks like it'll undercut Nvidia at the same place where they killed 3dfx - it's a cheap to make, but very powerful and feature-full card for the OEMs. Having the performance crown won't mean much for Nvidia if AMD can outsell them ten to one with budget cards...

>>55114083
>IT'S OVER, AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

They produced the GPU of every major console except the PS3 for a decade, they are producing the APUs for every major console for the current generation, and they are producing the APUs for at least 3 upcoming consoles (xbox s, ps4k, and xbox scorpio).

They could exit the PC market today and they'd still be completely fine.

Also, Scorpio is using Zen, so the cpu already has a design win despite still being a year away.

>>55115513

I used to own a 4890. Those suckered ran hot! Over 70+ Celsius but we're the first card to ever hit the 1ghz barrier. Being that the 4890 was already a overclocked 4870 from 750 to 850 mhz and then upwards of 250mhz of overclocking to 1ghz the oc headroom was amazing.

If the 490 comes out at $300 and beats a 980ti or comes close to it, you can be sure as hell I'm buying it.

>>55114065
I screenshotted this just so I can make fun of your stupid ass when the 480 comes out.

Does anyone here actually go out and consciously buy a "budget" card for the sole intention of gaming? I know not everyone can make six figures, but there has to be a point where you just get tired of getting the bare minimum.

If a jump from $200 to $400 is too much for some to afford, PC gaming should not be a priority.

Just saying.

>>55115620

Out of the box 480 already is basically the same as the 980ti

>>55115731
What's the benefit of spending double for playing at a higher setting? Are games so shit that you have to compensate with pretty graphics?

>>55114407
Who the fuck gives a shit for how much it's selling? That card is almost 4 years old, nobody is going to buy it.

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>>55114597
are you trying to ruse here?

>>55114310

>HD7790 destroys the HD5870 and HD6870

The 5870 was faster than the 6870. That was when they started doing the *900 series cards for the highest end. The 5870's replacement was the 6970.

And even still, that's a big leap for a $150 card. Keep in mind the GTX 950 released only a few months ago for $150 and was just barely as fast as the 7870.

>>55115826
honestly, yes

>>55115139

the 970 in that review was only overclocked to 1.25ghz, and the 390 was overclocked to 1200mhz (an OC that is only possible on the golden review chips AMD sends out).

a properly OCed 970 outperforms the 390x, the 390 is only a competitor for a stock 970.

>now with improved amd drivers, proper dx12 support and nvidia gimping the gap is even bigger

KEK. nice post purchase rationalization AMDrone.

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>>55115182
Because koeniggsegg is more profitable than Toyota

>>55116504
Because not every one drops over $400 on a graphics card.

>290 Tri-X
For a GPU that came out in late 2013, it's impressive that I can still get 50-60 FPS at Ultra @1080P for any modern game like Witcher 3 or GTA5.
And this is on a [email protected], so if I had a better CPU I'm sure the frames would be higher.

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Serious question here. All i hear on /g/ is how x card gonna be fucking great with dx12 but also hear windows 10 is shit, dont upgrade. Isnt dx12 only available on w10?

>>55114051
>panjeer
topkek

>he unironically buys nvidia cards
Haha fagget

>>55116531
Because most don't drop more than $300 on a graphics card.

>>55114716
>nvidia
>not cutting support for their cards

I'm still pissed that I had to buy a new card to play overwatch, amd cards as far back as 2007 got directx 10.1, nvidia decided that the update was "barely an update at all, not worth it" for their cards earlier than October 2009

>>55116583
>Isnt dx12 only available on w10?
Correct.

>>55115915
Don't forget that it's an almost 50% die shrink.

>>55114982
Honestly I think more people are excited about high performing and affordable cards than they are about high performing and expensive cards

>>55116583
Superior waifu desu

>>55115731
It depends on what you care about. I've got a 660ti and I'm only going to upgrade (prolly an RX 480 or 490) cause I'm a glutton for punishment. After I sold my 960, I realized my 660ti does pretty much everything I ask it to, which is pretty much 1080p@60Hz. It wont max out every game, but I care more about stable framerates than high graphics settings. I guess the biggest reason to upgrade would be if I buy a 1080p@144Hz monitor.

So can it be agreed anon that we POO IN DA LOO GPU NOW?
POO IN DA LOO!
POO IN DA LOO!!!!!!

I hope sapphire makes a vapor-x 480

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>>55116804
I hope we POO IN DA LOO, POO IN DA LOO!
WE CURRY GPU NOW CHINKS.

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>>55116899
RX 480 CONFIRMED TO GUARANTEE YOU 5/10 WHITE GIRL PUSSY.

POO IN DA LOO GPU.

WE CURRY NIGGA NOW

>>55114982


The thing people who are newer to the game don't understand is what die shrinks do...

>>55115000
It was $550 on launch
Hawaii has a 438mm2 die size, GM204 has 398mm2
Hawaii typically hits around 15% OC, GM204 hits around 21%

>>55116473
The 970 in that review had a 1264mhz baseclock, it hits 1542mhz with boost

>>55114897
my 290x, with custom cooler on it, runs cool as hell with a 10% overclock and is a fucking beast

Witcher 3 high settings 1440p 55-60 fps at all times

>>55116968
>white

>>55115731
Not everyone has a 1440p 144hz monitor.

1060 will BTFO of the 480

>>55115731
According to AMD 84% of people buy a budget card for gaming.

The problem is that AMD can literally only profit off of gaming at the moment because despite the fact that GCN is an actually competent architecture, their CPU K15h was a piece of shit and neglects the bigger picture, aka the OEM and enterprise positions. Then, AMD marketing also proceeds to market their already niche gaymer market to the low end VR market which narrows down their market further. If AMD made this card out to be a compute (maybe as a HSA complement), a HTPC card, and a gaming/VR card it would gain more traction than just "le gamer product".

>>55117980
It's looking like it will be a compelling option in the most popular price bracket, if it's performance is what is promised, then it'll be hard for most buyers to choose anything else's

People will use it for much more than just rendering doom

>>55113648
>cucked
what did he mean by this?

>>55114007
Kek

>>55117793
It doesn't have async shaders so no it won't.

why are amd fags always about future promises?

nvidia is gonna beat amd again with their superior software optimization once again

I sold my r9 390 because it was a nightmare waiting a week for decent drivers to play every new release

>>55118272
You never had a 390.

Definitely getting one of these.
It's half the price or less than similar spec cards and I'm not looking to stroke my pc epeen with a high end card.

If I can get 1080 with all the features turned on at 60fps or better, I'm golden.
It's not the best card by a long shot, but required specs for 1080 res graphics really haven't been going up much for the past while.
It's really the higher res modes that need the beefier cards.

So this one should last me a good number of years.

>>55114231
A slight oc about 3-5% or a few driver updates will carry the rx470 above 970

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Mfw its the same argument over and over again
>amd has affordable cards that ouperforms "insert old gen nvidia"
>nvidia is a better company as a whole
>nvidia lies

Watch this happen next year. When will you guys realise it does not matter. Why is this a debate. Buy from a company that you know wont cuck you for your money. Fucking retards

>>55118349
>nvidia is a better company as a whole
from what retarded perspective?

>all them 480 buyers remorse when the 1060 gets released


AHAHAHAHAH

>>55118309
>being this fucking delusional

I fell for the 390 meme. Sold it and bought a fucking 980Ti which I sold and bought a 1080. Seriously, AMD is garbage right now, I hope the RX 480 makes them competent again.

>>55118366
you're either new or didn't read his post or this thread at all
>nvidia has better performance when its cards are released
>amd cards are much better than their nvidia counterparts when a full year has passed
its not hard to understand

>>55118517
The party where it implies nvidia is a better company

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>My $200 LCD monitor bought in 2016 is better, bigger and cheaper than your LCD monitor bought in 2013
>It doesn't matter I couldn't watch anything for last 3 years. BTFO
>My car bought in 2016 is faster, cheaper and prettier than your car you bought in 2013
>It doesn't matter I had to use a bus for last 3 years. BTFO

That's how fucking retarded AMDrones are when they compare 2016 GPUs with 2013/2014 Titan/970 gtx.

>>55118595
>buy $1000 GPU in 2013
>beaten not even 3 years later by a $150 GPU

I mean the fact it was beaten only 9 months later by a $550 GPU was pretty fuckin funny, but this is just damn hilarious.

>>55116473
>the 970 in that review was only overclocked to 1.25ghz
>What is a 1542MHz boost clock

KEK. nice post purchase rationalization Nvidiadrone.

>>55118674
>not even 3 years
It took way too long to get off the 28nm node.

>>55118706
blame TSMC

GloFlo bought out IBM's 10nm and 7nm dev when IBM went fabless, so it should be on track for 2017 10nm volume production. Whether it's suitable for GPU's is another story; wouldn't see those until late 2018 desu.

>>55118380
1060 will either be a small underpowered chip, or a heavily cut GP104 they could have sold for 2-3x more.

>>55118809
a 1060 is half a 1080, why even pretend that it's not?

>>55118809
A 1060 is going to be a failed 1070, which is a failed 1080.
Your fist time experiencing the product binning ride?

Will a 480 run overwatch maxed at 1080

>was gonna get a 480
>paycheck came in
>instead of $1000, i got $2400

Now i don't know what to think, maybe get a 1070....

>>55119252
Or buy 12 rx 480's for 69.6 Teraflops of compute for about 1000w.

>>55119393
Yea so i can use all that power to mine trump coins?

>>55115731
I used to be a basement dwelling retard and bought the best of the best but now I have other things to do so I don't really fucking care.

>>55119242
nigga I run that with a 660GTX

>>55113648
Sadly it's not going to be that cheap i europe. A friend of mine working at Webhallen (sweden) told me it would go for close to 3000 sek (~€300).

>>55119445
Do whatever the fuck you want, folding at home if you want idk.

>>55119499
Same here, it feels.. odd. When i was growing up, having everything maxed out was the largest part of the "game", it didn't even matter if the game was good. Now i turn settings to medium or lower and a 60 fps minimum and a fun game is far more important.

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>>55119526
nej...
nej
NEJ

>>55118380
>all them 480 buyers remorse when the 1060 gets released
>in 4 months

>>55118349
>When will you guys realise it does not matter
But it does matter to people who were looking to buy a new card in the price range of $250 soon because now they'll have a better option.

Let them have their excitement.

>>55115261
So far all the third parties are ugly as hell, I guess Nvidia set sail for ugly shit and everyone followed

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>>55119526
För helvete

>>55118864
So it will be shit and no way anyone will buy it for more than a 480 costs

>>55118871
A 1080 with a one small defect could be usable as a 1070, but if it's in the wrong place the whole chip is fucked. Even with 100% yields they would cut chips to make 1070s. But making a big chip to cut almost 50% off wouldn't make any sense

>>55115731
Prettier graphics don't make the game better, what's your point? I'm not going to burn money just because I can

>>55118871
That's not how it works, Nvidia has been making three different chips, one targeted to the ultra high end that's binned for flagship and enthusiast, one that's binned for high end and mid high end, and one that's binned for mobile and a few budget lines
You can't just bin everything from the best chip, since one yields improve you will be binning perfectly good chips for shit parts, before yields improve you won't have enough chips for the demand of low end parts, and your profit will be shit

>>55113648
Oh, they're true alright.

Current reports show the RX 480 beast modes being able to hit 1.5ghz out of the box.

Nvidia getting BTFO all over the place

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Is there a chance the 480 will sell out like the 1070 and 1080s? I'm thinking of buying 2 and reselling one after the supply is gone.

>>55120223
unlikely since this isn't a paper launch

>>55120223
Nvidia rushed their launch. AMD hasn't, AIBs are already shipping custom PCBs.

>>55120320
>tfw going to be freed from the reference 670 i bought foolishly 4 years ago
finally, unshackled.

I'm still waiting for specs of BF1 to be out before I make a decision.

>>55119725
If it's 1/5 the cost of a 1080 everyone will buy it.

>>55119725
>whole chip is fucked

Nah, pascal is a die shrink of maxwell, 960 was literally have a 980 down to the ram and bandwidth

>>55119898
Then you take 1080's that are c/d stock cut them in half and sell them as 1060s
Not many 960s will sell, 970s were the best selling card but the low end is where Nvidia is happy to concede to AMD. x60s are always released last because they're literally all the trash left over from x80 and x70

>>55120320
So are aftermarket cards gonna be out at the same time then?

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>>55120223
>mfw remembering how i bought a bunch of wiiUs on launch cause i thought i could flip them like nintendo wii and no one wanted them and i had to return them to the store which got me banned from all gamestops in the city for scalping

I don't want to relive that memory again.

>>55120320
>Nvidia rushed their launch
Source?

>>55120520
The fact that you can't buy any of their shit despite it being several weeks and despite AIBs finally being allowed to start selling their own low stock.
Reference cards having issues all over the place

>>55120590
I wonder what they're even doing for RMAs now with the low stock.

>>55120590
Actually no. There was an issues on some with the fan which was fixed about 10 days back with the latest update.
Luckily mine wasnt one of the ones with that problem.
Had no issues with mine and its running perfectly

I'm still holding back on buying a 1080 because I want to see what AMD is going to put out. My 290x XF setup is good but its not handling 4k well. I got a 4k monitor as a gift, I wonder if its too soon to even think about getting a new card for 4k.

>>55120650
I just can't stand the loud blower stock coolers, no idea how you put up with it.

>>55113648
It's a budget card with last years mid range performance, who gives a shit.

Obviously you are going to pay more for the best.

A Ferrari is not 10 times as expensive as a fiat Panda because it can drive 10 x as fast

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New card. Whacha think? Got them from the printers yesterday.

Radeon RX 480 from XFX is factory-overclocked to 1288 MHz. Price is 2000 Yuan which is about $300 or 270€.

>>55113648
Yes and also they oc well
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-1500mhz-overclocking-tool-voltage-control/
There's nothing Nvidia can do now

>>55120672
It doesnt ramp up that bad when using msi afterburner.
I didnt know it was so loud at 100% until I manually turned it up to test it.
There are watercooling boards available now so I may look at getting one in the future

>want a 480
>have a korean ips monitor that uses dual link dvi
>active display port -> dvi-d are like $150
>doesn't look like any of the 4xx amd gpus have dvi

fuck

>>55120696
WCCF-Tech said that Fury X will be the fastest gpu too

>>55118699
Nvidiots are truly idiots

>>55120670
Grab 2x 480 beast mode 8gb. At 1.5 they'll easily outperform an overclocked 390X.
This way you get more VRAM to play with while using so, so fucking much less power.

>>55120696
You can clock this 200dollar piece so it matches fury nano?

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>>55120727
#rekt

>>55120721
Well then tough titties.
You're the one stupid enough to buy a monitor using a long dead digital standard.

Buy a weak-ass 970 like the pleb you are

>>55118699
Source on the 1542 boost clock?

>>55120746
While using less power, yes. There will almost certainly be AIB versions that are the same size, too.

This die shrink is fucking incredible.

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>>55120756
i'm already using a 970, it's not enough for 1440p with its 3.5gb meme ram

>>55120770
Well then guess what you get to eat, bro

Shouldn't have bought a chink shit monitor.

Buy a glorious master race freesync and join the revolution, friend

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>>55120756
>weak ass 970
>shits all over the 390 and even the 390x in new games

>>55120801
Doom benchmarks are bullshit since it runs an older version of openGL on AMD cards than on Nvidia.

>>55120820
>this benchmark doesn't count!
>but Asots Does!

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>>55120801
Cute.

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>>55116968
>>55116833
cancer/10

>>55120820
AMD beats Nvidia in a bench for whatever reason
>Hurr durr nvidiots your cards suck
Nvidia beats AMD in a bench for whatever reason
>Hurr durr nvnia paid for the bench, the software isn't optimized for our cardz hurr durr

>>55120801
>>55120836
Nice try, Pajeet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvWaE-3Aseg

I guess you didn't get the memo that you couldn't use Doom any more.

i just want amd to win because to me diamond multimedia is the only company worth buying gpu's from

>>55120849
Still 970 is faster

>>55120869
Theyre both poorfag cards in all honesty.

>>55120877
Last year I spend 1200 euro for PC with Xeon e3-1231v3 and GTX 970
And I am pretty happy with it. I won the silicon lottery +200/+500 and the card is staying in low 60s.
Can't ask for more

>>55120869
90.9fps average vs 93.2fps average. A big win for the meme card there. Now shall we compare them in Mirror's Edge: Catalyst where the 3.5 gimping comes into play?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY

Look forward to much more of that in new titles, cuckboi. :^)

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>>55114944
I agree
They just wanted to be first regardless of supply problems

>>55120907
Where were you when Nvidia shill #201052 was kill?

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>>55120907
>>55120933
Fury X can't handle 1080p with Hyper settings too

>>55120933
me? I was looking at my card doing 102 fps
>>55120939

Stay poor

>>55120939
Where were you when Fury X was kill?

I was inspecting watercooling loop for leaks when Fury X said to me "I am kill"

I reply "No, you have no leaks, are fine"

Fury X then say "But who was 390X?"

>>55120843
>putting the 390x against the 970 even though the 390 is it's competitor

AMDrones lies and deceit as usual

>>55120939
Nobody cares about the Fury X though. Not even AMD fanboys defend that piece of shit.

>>55120956
>buying a 1080 fuckmeintheass edition
>not waiting for glorious aftermarket cards for cheaper.

>>55120971
Typical nvidia defending retard who can't read
>shits all over the 390 and even the 390x in new games
>390x

>>55121039
Typical AMD defending retard who uses logic and shit.

970 BTFOs the 390X because it's an Nvidia card while the 390X is pooinloo AMD, faggot.

>>55120590
>The fact that you can't buy any of their shit despite it being several weeks and despite AIBs finally being allowed to start selling their own low stock.
So you have no source or any idea of actual supply or demand. For all you know there could have been hundreds of 1080s sold over the last couple of weeks?

>>55121039
read 'In new games' infant

>>55114219
>4000 series

The 4870 was the worst GPU ive ever owned
>runs at a cool 90'c
>hair drier fans
>driver issues every month
>disintegrates when overclocked
>drew 300watts

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>>55113648
>AMDiscount fags in full damage control mode because they finaly realize r9 480 is the full poolaris 10 die, meaning there won't be a 490 untill Vega.
>AMDrones stuck with Budget cards with last years midrange performance for the remainder of the year
>the goalpost has now shifted to "B-but the 480 in cf cherrypicked by AMD in the most heavily optimized AMD game ever, barely beat the 1080"
>CF
>Relevant
>pick one
>muh price to performance ratio
>Nvidia will match or surpass the 480 with the 1060
>AMD basically abandond the entire high end segment because they realize Nvidia is boss and they need not even try (just like FIJI was shit).

These threads are awesome, keep it coming

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>>55121419
That's a lot of bait you're throwing out, I take it you're out to snag some big fish!

>>55121080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY

>>55119526
fuck

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>>55121478

>>55119526
Probably 300 euros with taxes and 8 GB of VRAM. I expected it.

>>55121419
It's okay anon, AMDfags are too poor to afford cards more than $200 anyway

>>55121478
Thats fucking disgusting

But as long as 970 users dont hit 3.5 its smooth sailing.

If VR catches on, 970 users are fucked
If it does not, very few games use 4gb vram so no one will ever know

>>55121509
At that price it's a pretty shitty deal compared to the 1070

>>55121411
The HD4670, however, was THE mid-level graphics card that could be put in basically any machine and didn't need any additional power, opening up gaming to a massive audience.

>>55121535
How much will it be ? 100-150 more euros for a 10% increase over the 480 isn't a big bargain.

>>55121618
>10% increase over the 480
Lol, come on, did you actualy take a look at the graph in OP?

>>55121535
>1070 is cheap they said

>>55121535
>1070 is a good deal they said
see

>>55121685
>>55121658
see
>>55120931

>>55115731
that's a retarded way of thinking. I can play any games in ultra / high today with a GPU that costed me 200 € 2 years ago. I don't think it's getting the bare minimum. A 200 € does the job, so why spend more ?

>>55116583
Yeah, but the people that says Windows 10 is a botnet and that the GPUs have superior with DX12 are different kind of people. For a while /v/ are coming to shipost in /g/

Anyway, what people should look at are the Vulkan benchmarks.

>>55122116
2 years ago you could have at best gotten a GTX 760 or R9 270X for 200€. None of those cards can do ultra today.

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AMD
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Why is Nvidia even a company when AMD can release a 200 dollar card with 200% more performance than the 700 dollar 1080?

>>55120492
He's telling you why that won't work. It isn't profitable to waste a big expensive but perfectly functional 1080 chip and destroy it by turning it into a 1060. The 1060 will be a smaller (cheaper) die.

>>55113648
this was a factory overclocked 480x that's still being beaten by a stock 980. i did a couple of tests on my standard factory overclocked 980 and i was getting 800 more score on firestrike extreme and i think it was 500 more on firestrike ultra. i can bump this thing to 1500+ mhz and it'll destroy the rx 480.

>inb4 the 480x is cheaper
i'm seeing aftermarket 980's selling for the same price as the leaked 8gb sapphire 480x on ebay. you're losing 4gb vram (largely irrelevant at 1080p anyway) but you're getting better performance.

>>55122223
You know the 480 overclocks even more right? They've gotten over 3ghz on air so far.

>>55122223
>this was a factory overclocked 480x
You're retarded. That benchmark was done with a 480 that had its boost function disabled and ran at 1080 MHz.
Regular 480s can boost to 1500 MHz and more and get at least a 50% higher score.

>>55122253
'they'
Ignore everything that comes out before the embargo lifts dude
Otherwise you'll spend your time learning the shit you like and ignoring the shit you don't

>>55122197
Years of industrial sabotage via proprietary software that does nothing but lower AMD performance in tests.

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>>55122268
lol nice bait. i nearly fell for it there for a second.

I think a 480 on water cooling will hit 1.7 Ghz

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>>55122223
>>55122253

3ghz? I don't know about that, It's confirmed to hit 1.4~1.5ghz with AMDs overclocking tool.
A rough calculation would bring it right under the FURY(Air Cooled Version) $475USD


http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-1500mhz-overclocking-tool-voltage-control/

Rumors are their is a "Beast Mode" Edition so for wccftech has been correct on all their rumors with the 480.

>>55122197
Actually to understand this you need to understand GPU land over the last 5 years. Long story short- AMD has been designing cards for upcoming dieshrinks, but the dieshrinks between 28nm and 14nm all fell through so AMD was left scrambling, holding designs for 22nm/18nm cards that they couldn't make because the fab processes fell through.

Nvidia instead went for the 'stick with 28nm' route, designing with that in mind. Given their large income though they've been working the dieshrink too, but AMD have been waiting for this dieshrink for like 5 years.

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>>55119526

http://www.nordichardware.se/kronika/kronika-radeon-rx-480-blir-dyrare-an-vantat-amd-gor-en-nvidia.html

I hope someone does a decent hybrid cooler 480.

>>55120721
Some AIB cards will have DVI

>videocardz leaked benchmarks are disappointing
>wccftech leaked benchmarks are encouraging

Not sure who to believe tbqhwyf. I'm inclined to think it's actually on the lower end though, probably slightly worse than the 980, at least based on the vc leak.

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>tfw 2 290's

I see no reason to upgrade for a while

>>55122407
>vapor-x

comfy

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I don't know why anyone would be pissed at AMD being able to compete with Nvidia with something like the 480.

Better competition is better for the consumer and better for the progression of gpus as a whole.

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NVIDIA BTFO
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>>55122405
always take the worse benchmarks as the most realistic because then you'll have a base line of performance. it will be the absolute minimum and you know it won't be worse than that. i was reading somewhere that you should take the worst performing benchmark and add ~10% to it to get a realistic view of what an AIB card will be like at max potential. that's how you can build the performance profile well before the card comes out.

>>55122430
When they launch Vega the 1070/80/ti will be BTFO with HBM2.

>>55114043
I still have a working 9800 pro and one that fried itself cuz someone never cleaned the cooling fan and it quit. It has literal burn marks on the die/chip whatever. But yes these where amazing cards. First 256 bus gpu I ever had.

>>55122430
Green boiz are only interested in benchmarks, not value vs performance.

>>55114043
>Gigabyte
>not Sapphire
Do you even ati bro?

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>>55114084

How do they go from one the best looking cards to one of the worst?? Who did this??

>>55122440
>1.8x scaling in synthetics

halve that and you've got you're real world performance. we're basically looking at 1070 performance in crossfire.

>>55122484
your*

>>55122501
actually it's you're. it's always you're here.

>>55122253
>3ghz on air
Wtf is wrong with you people

>>55122522
Wrong, by your logic it should read

>you've got you are real world performance

you're is a short version of you are

>>55122554
It's /g/

>>55122566
lurk moar

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>>55122440
SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

N V I D I A B T F O
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>>55122554
booty blasted novidea shill detected

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>>55122407

She do me good

>>55122440
Double 970's also BTFO a fury x, how is this surprising?

Only idiots get CF or SLI

>>55122655
what case is that, anon?

>>55122666
DX12 better Multi GPU support.

>>55122688

core x9 by thermaltake

>>55122699
2x 0 is still 0

$199 my ass

http://www.tekshop247.com/480m8bfa6-radeon-core-ddr5-p-1491356.html

>>55122737

$199-> "$" <-USD

Why are you euro fagz bitching at AMD cause your country is a socialists one.

>>55122737
>http://www.tekshop247.com/480m8bfa6-radeon-core-ddr5-p-1491356.html
That's the 8gb version. The 4gb one should be around 230.

>>55122737
it seems reasonable. $199 is for the 4GB version and the price excludes VAT.

The 8GB version is going to be $299 so that's £210. Add VAT and you get £258. Add some profit margin and voila. £285

>>55122737
well when your card ends up overperforming beyond expectations so much you gotta charge a little extra

>>55122771
I think it'd be closer to £180-200. It's been listed at 230 euros.

>>55122774
And for a little bit more you can get 1070

>>55122795

and gimped drivers when they release the next generation

>>55122854
Better gimped than no drivers

>>55118462
You keep falling for memes anon you need help.

>>55122795
>little bit more

I want to believe.

>>55122795
Whats a little bit more? Post the 1070 price pleaseeeee

>>55122699
nvidia cards can take advantage of dx12 multi gpu support though. why do you think nvidia have limited sli to 2 way? you think they like losing money from fat fucks who like buying 4 gpu in sli just to play cs:go at 1080p

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>>55119614
Why is the best looking one always has shitty cooling solution?

>>55114043
>X1950XTX
>HD2900XT for a brief period
>HD4850
>HD5770
>HD7870
>R9-280X

>>55117793

>192 bit memory bus
>6GB VRAM max, and that's if they don't jew you out of a half GB somewhere

O I am laffin, it's DOA compared to the 470

>>55123098
Who the said Nvidia cant SLi? All I said is better CF/SLi support in DX12.

>>55123182
The 192bit bus is not confirmed.

Also, I'm fairly sure there are going t o use the same architecture as the 1070 but with less power

>>55123232

>Nvidia has always given its xx60 cards a smaller bus to not cannibalize sales of the xx70 model and up
>"it'll be different this time guys don't worry!"

>>55123131
I wanted this card but I had to go MSI cause cooling.

>>55114007
+1

>>55114007
Old fag knows whats up.

New high end when

I just came into a chunk of money, but don't want to bother with poor-tier midrange cards

>had a 9800GT almost ten years ago
>4-5 years ago got a 7870 2GB for my 1440p monitor (yes I was running 1440p on the 9800gt, no I didn't play any game at 1440p except some 2d stuff)
I can get 60fps in TF2 and my ASCII games, what more should I want

There's one thing you can guarantee from the purchaser of a high-end GPU: shit taste.

>>55123463
Anon, you just claimed an argument of shit taste, but you play TF2 still

That's very hypocritical

>>55113648
I don't care about video cards because I use apple. I'm a grown up and I don't play gaymes

>>55114007
Except cutting prices to clear old stock happens every generation, idiot

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>>55123486
>Uses Apple
>grown up

>>55123474
Don't you have overmeme boxes you can be opening to unlock SPRAYS

>>55123505
Overwatch is shit, too, though

>if you don't like X, then you obviously must love Y

Go back to /v/, you strawmanning goon

>>55114071
>gtx 770 was $400
>970 was $330
>1070 is $380 (msrp), $400 more realisticly

That looks pretty consistent to me. Nice talking out of your ass, though

>>55114407

People use Titan for non-vidyagaming purposes mostly though (gamedev/rendering)

>>55123636

What are you talking about Nvidia shill it's 450msrp and 550 for fe

>>55123521
>I hate everything, that makes me the most refined
kys

>>55123694
>http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-launch/

$450 for FE
$379 MSRP

>>55123750
>taking the bait

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>>55113648
Even Wall Street believes in AMD now
Nvidia officially fucked up

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>>55120866

>diamond

>not sapphire

>>55113976
>factory benchmark
>AAA goy works
Can anyone translate? I don't come into GPU threads much and don't understand the jargon around here.

>>55114714
well how much do you want to believe?
nvidia put out an un revised version for their gpu, see normally each cpu/gpu gets revised several times before a final product gets put out, but nvidia decided to look st the shit, say fuck it it works and ship it.

Seeing amd is putting out a gpu that effectively makes the entire line up below a 980 pointless, and this is a mid range gpu, what was nvidia to do? They had to rush their shit hard or be caught with their pants down for nearly 6 months. Its also very possible that vega will beat the fuck out of nvidia so nvidia had nothing for the mid range, so instead of try to compete, they went for the high end where they will have a small lead ro upwards 6 months, till their chips are pointless. the 980ti and titan may very well be able to brute force performance higher than amd, but if they need to 100% and 150% more die space to do it (the rumor now is that the 1080 is 1/3 the full chip, the 1080ti will be 2/3 and titan 3/3, personally i believe the other rumor of 1080ti having 20% more transistors and the titan having 40% more far more) then there is no way in hell they are going to be cheap, and i don't mean cheap as in poor fag as is love to be posted, i mean cheap as in sub 1000$ for the 1080ti and sub 1500$ for the titan.

Then lets not forget vulcan and dx12 put multigpu on devs, not amd or nvidia, it functions better then either crossfire and sli when it works, for AAA or high end games, we very well may see real support, but this is up in the wind, and only ashes/hitman are real dx 12 games right now everything else is a patched in 'we have dx12 too' version.

2 gpus, for 200$ each, could beat out a 1080, and make the 1070 pointless... this is stretching it a bit, but is a clear possibility.

>>55115731
look at games right now, you can double the pollies and it won't make a visual difference, you could add 10 times the amount and it won't matter.

The most demanding things you can do in most games (that aren't gameworks crippled) is turn aa on and up high, something i actively don't use or have soft shadows, an effect i don't really like, or increase the resolution, of which we have a 1440p 144 hz freesync monitor and I can tell you first hand, you do not notice the the resolution easily especially with light aa pass (not my computer or monitor, id have no aa so the resolution would be a bit more noticeable) but you DEFINITELY notice both the higher frame rate and how smooth freesync makes the game feel.

All I give a damn about is the textures, and that shadows are there, only reason i use AO is because so many games stopped baking in AO for areas that will never move (thank you game for instead of baking in a setting and saving processing power, you make me piss it away for something that would look the same regardless)

and with that said, on a 280x im STILL able to max most games out (except a few that use more then 3gb of ram) with the settings I like.

im likely going to get a 480 8gb just so i can free myself of a bottleneck of 3gb ram, the fact it has significantly higher performance than what i have is just icing on the cake to me.

>>55116683
if you are looking for a monitor, 144 hz is DEFINITELY worth it, and if you game fullscreen, freesync/gsync is easily worth it too, even with the gsync tax.

Threads like this make me not want to buy AMD. I'd get lumped with complete retards.

>>55126306
this

it's plain autism from them throughout the threads.

>>55119540
for me, I try to balance how good the higher end effect is with how much performance hit it is.

take shadows.

if the game has 5 settings the difference between 3 and 5 is usually just softness, not shadow map size, so ill set the setting to 3,

or in witcher, where grass was literally rendered so far away you couldn't see it pop in, and then there was a setting that made it render even further away...

the only setting i refuse to ever set lower is textures, as they make the biggest difference in visuals right now, and anything lower then max is computer down sampled, so it looks significantly worse then if a person painted them at that lower resolution.

>>55116583
dx12 and vulcan are largely the same, so if its good with dx12 it will be good with vulcan too.

personally when i build a new system i'm dual booting win 10 with win 7 and some linux distros to fuck around with.

that way if games go dx12 required i'm covered, if they go vulcan i can use my os of choice.

>>55118272
um... nvidias drivers are slipping bad while amd drivers have been consistently good...

Who the fuck calls a graphics card glorious?

One thing I dont understand about this whole GPU "war".

Whnever I see some news about new AMD cards, I see at least few comments about how "it cant be true" because "they cant make cards THAT good, for such low price" and how "Nvidia is still making best cards" or "AMD is still for poorfags, TRUE gamers buy Nvidia", accompanied with "if you want good performance, save more money and buy 1070".

I know that some can be just paid marketeers, but still, not everybody. And brand loyality is scary thing. Why they act like that anyway?

>>55126271
This is another reason I'm getting the rx480, though it may not be the best card out there, required specs for 1080 games aren't going up much if at all.
The only reason you'd need a beefier card is if you're going for a higher res and refresh rate, and just going up to 1440 there's not even that much difference.

1080 is the standard, it's getting cheap and it looks good enough as is that it's not going to lose relevance for a good number of years yet.
That's exactly what this card does and does well.

>AMD fanboyos still believing in the fairytalelalaland 'DX12 will solve everything' meme

>>55119526
480 will cost ~400 dollarydoos

1070 is already selling at over 750 fucking dollarydoos. When more supply comes, it wont go below $700.

>>55126613
Because AMD fanboys are just as ravaging.

>>55126656

>480 will cost ~400 dollarydoos

After AMD said that price will be 200$ for 4gb and 230 for 8gb version?

>>55126680
Yes. 4gb will be ~$320. 8gb should be no more than $400.

I did my calculations and I was right about the 1070 being $750-800, so I'm pretty confident in my estimate.

>>55126676

Actually, I never saw that in comments sections in such sites. News related to AMD new cards usually gets full of Nvidia fanboys instead.

>>55126730

But how can it be 320 if AMD said 200? Please explain.

>>55126730

Plus, I rather saw prices like 450$ for 1070.

>>55126744
Did you even read this very thread?

>>55126676
this.

you can't have any normal gpu discussion without some amd fanboy coming in and screaming

>novidya
>nshitya
>le gimpwerks

i've been lurking here for ages and i browse all types of tech forums and the amd fanboys are by far the worst.

>>55126783

I was refering to other sites than 4chan.

And yes, I dont see any "ravaging AMD fanboys" here either.

>>55120503
Yes, there's already some really ugly coolers announced

>>55114043
im still using a 5770

>>55126782
>Plus, I rather saw prices like 450$ for 1070.
Hahaha yeah sure you did bub. msy prices their stock very competitively, and even they're selling it at over $750.

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>>55126802
>>55126744
>News related to AMD new cards usually gets full of Nvidia fanboys instead.

what the fuck are you reading? i literally just went on the new article written by videocardz.com about the new amd cards and the 2nd comment is a swipe at nvidia buy an amd fanboy. it's not nvidia fanboys in amd news articles, it's amd fanboys shitposting about nvidia in amd news articles.

get your head out of your ass. you're clearly biased here.

>>55122440
this is fake for your information

>>55123365
Buy poor tier and wait for GP100 and Vega

>>55115731

Yeah no, even though I'm always upgrading my stuff, that's only because I have a lot of disposable income.

The difference from High to Ultra, hell, most of the time even from Medium to Ultra, is fucking negligible if you're playing at 1080p. You'd have to be a really nitpicking autist and compare screenshots of both side by side to notice whatever kind of minuscule difference there is. And I guarantee that when you're immersed in the game you won't even fucking notice or remember anything.

>>55121092
>So you have no source or any idea of actual supply or demand. For all you know there could have been hundreds of 1080s sold over the last couple of weeks?

its an A0 stepping, instead of revising what they had like everyone else, they needed to get out before amd took the whole market... what other conclusion could i possibly draw when if they did the normal revision cycle it would put them right up against vega?

>>55120674
limited quantity + higher price to make it seem more valuable.

look at rolls royce for an example of this that is easy to show.

>>55120848
you have the beta where the game ran on 4.5, you have the release where it ran on 4.3... yea, something happened, and its likely nvidia.

>>55120223
>>55120243
>>55120320
>>55120520
>>55120590
>>55120638
>>55121092

read: >>55126601

>>55127351
A1 stepping actually, the GDDR5X is risk production though. Not sure if you can really use the same stepping terminology with it.

>>55122374
heres hoping, don't really want to add more potential lag for dport->dvi and don't want to spend money on a monitor when literally everything is a side grade at best, and oh what fun, i want to cheap out i cant even get a reasonably priced 1920x1200 anymore, id have to actually downgrade.

>>55126797
This is what happens when the majority of your customers are poos in loos.

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daily reminder to POO IN DA LOO.

>>55122704
love that case, it big enough for a noctua d15?

>>55126899
just looked at a few, non 4chan sites ban the asshats from posting and being antagonistic.

>>55126797
gameworks is shit regardless of who you buy from.

nvidia side they push shit code that only runs well on their highest end, on amd's side, you have to deal with work arounds that hamper performance no matter what due ot render paths... gameworks is lose lose.

>>55127126
textures are always noticeable, unless they do something like what witcher 2 did and each level up they loaded full textures for some things and slightly worse for others once you went passed medium.

but other effects i agree, medium to ultra on much of it is non noticeable outside of screenshots.

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where were you when nvidia was kil