Convince me VR isn't a meme And no, I don't give

Do I get a kiss if I do? :3

It's literally the future and I'm not being even one of those hyperbolic transhumanist faggots

It's the next step in the way we interface with technology. It will seem like a meme until the hardware catches up so you don't look like a clown wearing it, then it will be so ubiquitous so fast that screens will be laughed at like floppy disks

>>55109634
porn

>>55109634
Porn

>>55109717
We're a good couple of decades away from that. I don't plan to live that long.

>>55109717
There's that minor detail about VR making people nauseous left and right that will get in the way of all of this.

I predict VR will be stigmatized by society as soon as the first cheese pizza scandal is made public. People with VR headsets will be branded as potential pedos. Women's groups will also decry VR for virutal rape.

vr is a meme

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>>55109634
VR is expensive, but what if you wanted more displays but don't have room for them? Or what if you wanted some more privacy while viewing things? How about not being limited to the number of physical displays that you have? Imagine having one or two physical displays and several minor VR displays floating around to help improve your productivity.

>>55109634
Who the fuck are you that we who believe in VR need to bring you aboard? I could care less you want to see how useful VR could be in getting your linux shit box config'd and functioning for you.

The fact you use the word meme out of context proves you are a child who still relies on whining to your mom for your toys.

Adults just buy what they want and don't give a fuck that someone doesn't agree with their purchase decisions.

>>55109784
that's AR not VR nigga

>>55109784
You can also use VR to change your environment around you so that you aren't staring at boring white / beige walls all day. Imagine that instead of your room / basement, it now looks like you live high up in a luxury high-rise, or a medieval castle, or some other fantasy world. This could improve people's general feelings.

>>55109788
>I could care less

>>55109784
This. As an interface it has a huge amount of potential. We'd no longer be limited to small two dimensional visualisations of our digital work, which would be a massive improvement for CAD and the like.
>>55109772
>There's that minor detail about VR making people nauseous left and right that will get in the way of all of this.
That's not much of an issue when the scene isn't moving, as the disconnect between the movement in your vision and the lack of movement in your body is what causes that. A few stationary reference points and this won't be a problem. The rest of your post is garbage that doesn't warrant a response.

>>55109849
Yeah but at what cost? Disconnecting them from reality, friends, and family so they exist in a fantasy? Don't we do that enough already with our computers and phones?

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

>>55109958
>The rest of your post is garbage that doesn't warrant a response.
Just admit that you have no response because you can't come up with a reason to disagree with me.

>>55109931
yep somehow dropped that 'nt. But I could care less if I tried.

Yep, I just tried..and I do care less, so I could.

>>55109965
Isn't that pretty much the state most of the self labelled 'non-normies' here already exist in?

Sounds like no change for most.

Look at how many things humans make designed to essentially either immerse the user in a different world or place, or at least just illustrate some environment or object.

TV, movies, pictures and games are just a few examples but with that we've already covered more than like 50% of what the average person spends their free time doing. That should show how important most people think it is, maybe not consciously but definitely subconsciously.

VR is the culmination of all of these technologies. It's what they all are essentially trying to do, finally done right. No longer do we have to be content with stop gaps like 2D screens trying to display 3D information. With VR (at least when it matures adequately) we finally have the ability to replicate an arbitrary experience of our senses without actually having to sense it naturally in the real world, which for a number approaching 100% of theoretical experiences is of course impossible.

>>55109784
> but what if you wanted more displays but don't have room for them?
Until VR headsets get a higher resolution, virtual desktops in a VR headset are going to look like shit.

VR is faggy.

>>55109965
>Don't we do that enough already with our computers and phones?
And television and books. Disconnecting from reality has been a theme for humanity for quite some time now.

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>>55109681
yes

I think virtual reality will have it's place while augmented reality becomes "mainstream accessible".

I don't doubt we'll have numerous people or interesting services that have immersive VR setups but they won't be the majority.

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>>55109784
That's AUGMENTED REALITY not VIRTUAL REALITY

>>55110194
Yeah, but not everything needs to be high res either.

>>55109634
AR for non gamers VR for gamers

>>55109634
I believe AR will be more relevant to our daily lives. Military, navigation, tourism, advertising, healthcare and all kinds of daily work branches like construction, office work, everything.

VR limits you to being closed in a room most of the time. Good for porn and games though.

>>55109717
Why replacing fast and efficient ways to interract with a computer with this stupid technology?
Just take a look at these games, it looks like shit, VR is not for gaming.
VR is motivate solely by having fun and VRMemeMO contents like ShitAO, it's useless for everything else.
I'm open to any counter-example on this one.

Voice is the next way for fast interactions with computers as IoT is expanding really fast and a lot of "intelligent" thing are coming into our life.

>>55110615
i think the big thing with VR is it is a step in the right direction towards augmented reality

>>55110763
You're trolling, right? You're not actually serious when you decry a more comprehensive way of interacting with computers while simultaneously suggesting that we use something as slow and error prone as speech, are you? Seriously, even humans have difficulty understanding other humans speaking the same language, computers are at a distinct disadvantage there. There's also the minor problem that anyone with five fingers on one hand can, with some training, type faster than they can speak clearly.

I'm inclined to say that you've never tried any form of VR, at all. Also, your English is awful, are you an eastern European?

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>>55110763
>Voice is the next way for fast interactions with computers
Can't wait for VR and virtual assistants to come together. We may finally start seeing something like a real life version of Cortana.

>>55109634
>Convince me flight isn't a meme
>And no, I don't give a fuck about travel

>>55110632
/g/ for non-gamers
/v/ for gamers

>>55109784
>privacy while viewing things
I use my vr headset for this all the time

>>55110763
Thank god people like you are not decision makers in the world, other than with your purchasing decisions of course. But your lack of imagination, vision and experience tell the story about you really. How's school?

I suggest you take a ride in a jet in DCS World or A WW2 plane in War Thunder(both free on Steam) using Voice Attack and a good hotas setup using a Vive or Rift and then say it has no role in gaming. Or take a drive in iRacing or Pcars or Arsetto Corsa

My Vive was purchased just for sims and porn and it is doing those tasks extremely well. Everything else that it can be used with is just icing on the cake. It will only get better with 2nd and 3rd gen tech. I can't wait for it. I will open my wallet once again when the time comes. No fucks given.

>>55110894
It was perfect that you did not use the word 'technology' for /g/.
Fucking perfect you did not. I mean the last thing discussed in /g/ is fucking technology usually.

Okay imagine that you are trying to purchase a big ticket item, say like furniture or a car. You could check out several of them in VR and narrow it down to a few based on how good it looks in VR. You could sit in a chair at home and have the car surround you and take you on a virtual drive, simulating the experience. You could check out the entire car, both interior and exterior to see if you like how it looks. You could switch options on and off to see if you prefer it in a certain color or with different features like different chairs or dashboard setups.

When you're out shopping you are only there for a few hours max, but at home you can take your time and look through a bunch of stuff over a period of several days or weeks.

Maybe you could even customize the car and have it sent do a dealer for purchase.

>>55111101
Very viable. Same with Home/Commercial design/decorating. Various phobic treatments. Hell just travel escapism at home. Tons of consumer applications are viable and will start to appear.

>>55111101
>>55111212
I'll do you guys one better. I work for a home staging and photography company. We currently offer a package where we take 360 degree photos and stitch them into an interactive virtual apartment viewing for potential buyers using the unity web player. This is pretty boring and not very innovative but right now we're working on getting this into a more interactive format so people view the apartment privately before the main event in real life, so to speak. We hope this will give us an edge over our competitors and further solidify our dominant position on the market.

>>55111313
>not making a 3D model
Git gud you cunts

>>55111446
Sorry, should have been more specific. It IS a 3d model, we only need to define the walls, which we do already to draw up a floorplan. Stairs and oddly placed furniture can look a little... unnatural but we're working on that.

>>55110845
>your English is awful
I'm doing my best, trust me anon

I'm not trolling I'm just skeptical about this VR tech atm.
I can't really see any "real world" use yet beside gaming.
How is VR improving your experience with computers in day-to-day uses? You'll end with this "extension" on your head all day long, what a world...
Something like hololens shows much more potential than VR helmets.

>>55111000
I don't have that kind of money sorry.


>>55111101
>>55111212
>>55111313
Things like that are pretty cool

>>55109634

Holy shit, I wouldn't even know where to start.

I guess if I had to sum it up, it's that it'll be one of the best learning tools ever since the invention of the book.

Imagine a new generation of kids using these. Want to learn history? Let's put you in the front line when the troops landed in Normandy. Astrology? Now you're walking on Mars (afterwards, go home and laugh at anon who had to learn from a planetarium which is just dots of light in a dome). Geography? Where do you want to visit...Egyptian pyramids or rain forest? Engineering? Here's a floating engine. Dismantle it before lunch time. Biology? Here's a animal, dissect it.

I'm not sure if the U.S. school system will invest in it (we are failing miserably), but I'm sure other countries will.

>>55110007
VHS and computers aren't stigmatized as pedo machines. Why would VR?

>>55109634
VR is going to accelerate the global descent into NEETdom. Look to Japan for our future.

>>55111489
Check out Google's Tango phone. It's new and maps out an environment in 3D. Lowe's sees this as a big thing for household use so they are setting up demo booths in their stores.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/06/the-first-consumer-project-tango-phone-is-lenovos-phab-2-pro/

>>55111626
There was a news story the other day about how Japan is increasing birth rates by paying women the equivalent of a few hundred or few thousand dollars to have children.

>>55111548
>Astrology? Now you're walking on Mars (afterwards, go home and laugh at anon who had to learn from a planetarium which is just dots of light in a dome).
That's astronomy...not astrology. Astrology is fortune telling. And alot of US schools give their students tablets / laptops (even though I think they shouldn't).

>>55111548
How's any of that beneficial to understand things? If anything it further worsens children's ability to think abstractly. Also, you are not magically able to dissect an animal just because now you have some stupid helmet with a screen in it.

I agree, that it may be useful for stuff like that, but it's not a big deal at all. If you think about it, we could do all these things right now, you could watch historical movies instead of reading about it, but we only very occasionally do that and if we do, nobody ever said "Oh, that movie really made a difference in understanding WW2!". It's a bit more fun, but that's it.

>>55109634
When did "meme" become synonymous with "fad?"

The original concept of a meme is a "mental gene," or ideas that spread like a virus. Being a passing fad is not part of the original definition.

>>55111313
>>55111446
>>55111489

I did some of this kind of shit for a friend who is in construction using the Swat 4 and HL editors. Was a cheap alternative to higher end software and got the job done. Created virtual spaces customers could check out and tweak as needed easily.
Very useful for buyers to be able to see spaces and basically experience them virtually.

>>55109634

Believe me anon, VR has real applications.

I know companies like American Airlines and GE spend more than you think on virtual training platforms for things like maintenance/operation of high value shit like airplanes, nuclear power plants, oil rigs...

Also, in the future heavy equipment will be operated by wire from gimbaled cameras

http://www.siemens.com/innovation/en/home/pictures-of-the-future/digitalization-and-software/simulation-and-virtual-reality-immersive-training-in-virtual-worlds.html

>>55109743
okay, let me proceed the shit out of vr while you're dying

>>55111737
Dude, this place is filled with little teenage faggots. They rarely get anything right in life. Their collective misuse of the word is pathetic, but they love being pathetic. It is their natural state of existence.

>>55111736
I have a biology degree and I don't think that dissection is useful for high school students or even most undergrads. That said, virtual dissection might be good as a learning tool because part of memorizing the ridiculous amounts of information in biology is trying to visualize how systems work together. Presently alot of undergrads will just draw shit out on paper, but maybe a VR dissection program will make it easier to remember things.

This should convince you
https://mobile.twitter.com/Meidocafe/status/741944756834557952

>>55111656
>It's new and maps out an environment in 3D
So it's basically a Kinect built into your phone? Awesome! We tried using a Kinect and found it too cumbersome and time consuming.
>>55111738
>Created virtual spaces customers could check out and tweak as needed easily.
Exactly what we're doing. There were solutions on the market back in 2011 and probably earlier than that too but they were difficult to work with and very often involved sending tons of stuff to another company who would do the work for us for a price instead, resulting in a slower delivery and less control over the project from our side.

We recently sent one of our newest photographers to a villa by a lake, beautiful property with a massive dining room, five bedrooms, old oak floors and all those other things that accompany luxury buildings more than a century old. It was a pleasure to stage and the photographer was overjoyed that he got the project, he spent the entire day with a huge grin on his face.
>>55111536
>How is VR improving your experience with computers in day-to-day uses?
Well, you already replied to one of my posts so I think you've understood the general gist of it. Some real estate agents have a VR headset in their offices and potential customers can view properties from there. They can also view them from home if they have the headset.
>You'll end with this "extension" on your head all day long, what a world...
This is a complaint as old as the written word. It's always some new evil, books were dreadful things depriving people of conversation, then it was the radio, then the television, the computer, the smartphone, the headset. It's a new media, it'll find its place in both work an leisure. It won't dominate our lives and it won't kill social interaction.