The best OS to exist is OS X. It's the best in ease of use

>>55068796
Call me when you have a decent filesystem

I don't like mac hardware, that alone prevents me from using their OS.

Plus, I've spent too much time in linux to just abandon it at this point.

>>55068796
It's macOS now.
>>55068810
They're making a new one already.

>.DS_Store

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>>55068810
Calling right now.
>>55068827
>thumbs.db
>other windows shit

>>55068796
Nice try, OP. But after today's shitshow of a keynote I really don't feel like defending Apple for a long time, and this is coming from a Mac user.

>>55068810
APFS looks promising. But knowing Apple as they are now under Tim Cuck, they'll probably fuck it up somehow.

>>55068813
try it on a non-apple computer -- works better than linux on my non-apple machine
>>55068848
Mavericks for life
t. op

>>55068855
Why would I waste my money on software and operating systems that I can't use how I want?

>>55068796
2 rupees have been deposited in your loo Rajeesh!

>>55068855
I'd rather not live in fear that some random update will intentionally break my unauthorized install of OS X.

And don't try to downplay this.
Apple purposefully designed their OS to not function on hardware that they didn't produce.

>>55068878
t. microcuck

>>55068796
>throws an error
I fucking hate this noob expression.

>>55068883
No update broke my install for me yet...
>>55068904
And programming languages apparently

>>55068848
should've just licensed ZFS or cucked UFS2 from FreeBSD like they do everything else

>>55068936
I remember being so excited for Snow Leopard with all the rumors that it would get ZFS... Back then I also didn't know Apple would Jew me so hard and make all my PPC machines obsolete.

>>55068848
>APFS
What's this? Haven't heard of it.

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>>55068796
OP, can you do these? These are called "minimizing" and "closing"

>>55068977
It's a new in-house developed file system to replace the arthritic donkey that is HFS+. It's probably the only feature that real people would actually give a shit about in the new "macOS". But of course they didn't want to mention anything that isn't related to FUCXKING EMOJIS AND TWEEN BULLSHIT.

Here's some documentation on APFS: https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/documentation/FileManagement/Conceptual/APFS_Guide/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40016999-CH1-DontLinkElementID_27

>>55069013
PC users: BTFO

>>55069021
Finally a replacement for HFS+. 2017 shipping seems ambitious for a file system, though. I would be careful if I were them, unless this has been in quiet development for the last 4 years.

>>55068961
>I remember being so excited for Snow Leopard with all the rumors that it would get ZFS
You're thinking of Leopard

>>55069013
>>55069033
While this is cool and everything, it's not exactly a relevant point to make when arguing against a bunch of /g/ hikikomoris...

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Why is macos such a fucking joke?

>>55069042
I've heard some bad things from people who have installed the dev preview today, for example:
>~/Documents is gone
>~/Desktop is gone
>chflags nohidden doesn't work
As well as the doc mentioning it's for iOS, watchOS, etc., I have a bad feeling that APFS might be extremely locked down and inaccessible.

>>55069077
>pre-beta software has problems or unimplemented functionality

oh, it all makes much more sense now, doesn't it?

>>55069085
the thing with apple vs microsoft is apple actually fixes all the problems with their beta before relase, or they don't release.

>>55069085
The fact that core directories like ~/Documents and Desktop are completely gone doesn't bode well. And I assume the dev preview doesn't even have APFS, so this simplification of the file system is a preemptive design decision to get it in line for their ultimate goal - to make macOS as inaccessible and "user-friendly" as iOS. Mark my words.

>>55069112
>to make macOS as inaccessible and "user-friendly"
i'm a noob and want everybody to know

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>>55068796
>Apple

>>55068796
I create dotfiles straight from the file manager in Windows. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>55069148
>i use windows and i'm not ashamed
lel

>>55069112
>The fact that core directories like ~/Documents and Desktop are completely gone doesn't bode well.
That's probably to prevent people from using the beta on a main drive.

>>55068813
Google "sunk-cost bias". I ditched ricing and "cutting edge software" when I realized the only reason I was still spending time debugging and fixing half-broken shit is because "Well, I've already spent so much time on my customized desk top, so I can't abandon it now! And since I put so much time into it, it must be good!"

>>55069067
OS X way is the best and most right one.
>>55069129
last Mac OS X version was made in last decade.

>>55068813
stokholm syndrome: the post

>>55069067
>it's functioning as designed
>b-but I don't like it so it sux, rite guise?

>>55069129
You have to add the vulnerabilities here for all of the Windows and Linux versions. "Mac OS X" refers to every version together.

>>55069160
Great post dude

>>55069196
How do you know that?

>>55068796
That's how you create a hidden file you dumb cum gurgler. And you can unhide the files. OSX tells the users because the users would have no idea what they are doing (they are computer illiterate).

>>55069168
But it's never happened in any previous dev previews of OS X. I think it's a conscious decision, just like they've been trying to force "All My Files" on Mac users for the last 3-4 versions of OS X. They're trying to get rid of the traditional hierarchical file system.

>>55069209
>But it's never happened in any previous dev previews of OS X
...I thought this was about APFS?

>>55069202
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/156/Apple-Mac-Os-X.html?vendor_id=49

They're just adding up the vulnerabilities throughout the years, but Mac OS X goes through different versions

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>>55069196
Here you go

>>55069202
If that's not how it is then they've done a terrible job with labeling

>>55069214
I don't think the dev preview includes APFS yet. I could be wrong, but I still stand by what I said.

>>55069202
not person you replied to, but because it lists windows 8.1, 8 and 7 seperately, but doesn't OS X 10.8, 10.9, 10.10 and 10.11
>>55069204
thanks mr obvious, that's what i told in original post but less rude

>>55069204
>have no idea what they are doing (they are computer illiterate)
>please stop making computers easier, this is the only way i can impress my mom

>>55069227
>I don't think the dev preview includes APFS yet.
From the APFS information page
"Important: APFS is released as a Developer Preview in OS X 10.12"

So I'm guessing it has something to do with APFS, but your description of events is not exactly clear.

>>55069241
>Please don't buy a manual-gear car, I am too dumb

>>55068979
cmd+q/cmd+h

>>55069249
>everyone would have a better driving experience if they would just drive stick

yep, that's totally correct. i don't even know why i'm arguing with you.

>>55069249
>he fell for the manual transmission meme

>>55069249
ah so you're a car analogy guy eh. too dumb to come up with an argument that's not a fallacy or oversimplification?

>>55069249
>not just flying a helicopter
lol r u too poor or too dumb

>>55069263
>Better driving experience without manual transmission
>>55069273
Can't argue back?
>>55069278
Find me helipads

>>55069067
What's going on here?

>Brand new file system APFS fixes everything wrong with HFS+ but one particular thing is fucked so massively that nobody can use it seriously

So we've gotten rid of the concept of "file hierarchies" entirely, and replaced it with tags. All files are preceeded by a UUID, and the file table indexes these to the file on the physical drive, reordering them so the content's UUIDs are always in alphanumeric order. So no more going through folders trying to find a file, just go to Spotlight, and search for "2014 Sales Projections"

Or, from the terminal, run filesearch -n "2014 Sales Projections", and APFS will automatically pull up the file for you. You can even tag your files, using filetag -u "2014 Sales Projections" -c "blue" -d "Sales Spreadsheets". These tags will even be visible on>>55069304
your watchOS devices. It's really, truly, a magical experience.

>>55069315
>So we've gotten rid of the concept of "file hierarchies" entirely, and replaced it with tags. All files are preceeded by a UUID, and the file table indexes these to the file on the physical drive, reordering them so the content's UUIDs are always in alphanumeric order. So no more going through folders trying to find a file, just go to Spotlight, and search for "2014 Sales Projections"

Source

>>55069315
This is what i always wanted from a filesystem. I always thought that it's impossible though. I hope linux will support it.

>>55069315
That sounds like a good idea that's going to be terrible in practice.

>>55069315
Man I was hyped till I read this. I hope you're bullshitting

>>55069315
hold the fuck up
how would that work with UNIX core of OS X?
that'll break every program
and kernel itself

>>55069372
Surprise, Mac OS Classic is coming back. Fuck UNIX.

>>55069315
No source

>>55069387
or would it be iOS Pro? 2 resource forks were kinda cool though

>>55069387
Tiger, Leopard, and El Capitan for life, I guess

>>55069321
>>55069335
>>55069352
>>55069361
>>55069372
It's completely made up you dumbasses

>>55069405
Snow Leopard/Mavericks > Leopard

>>55069423
Snow Leopard and Mavericks can't run on PowerPC hardware.

>>55069129
>comparing operations systems with web browsers and database servers.

My "Hello World" bash script has zero vulnerability. I win.

>>55069423
Not if most of the Macs you own are PPC. Then your best option is Leopard, OpenBSD, Debian (but Linux trackpad drivers are absolute AIDS), or MorphOS if hate yourself.

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>>55069444
>operations systems
Tip top kek

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>>55069417
>>55069315

>>55069446
>>55069439
Then why did he list Tiger?

>>55069517
Because Tiger is the best option for lower clock G4s and is better if you use Classic often as it's nonexistent in Leopard.

>>55069517
Maybe he owns G3s or slower G4s, like I dual-boot OS 9 and Tiger on an iBook G3. Plus Leopard runs like dogshit on any G4 below 1GHz, and you need at least 1GB of RAM for it to be anywhere near usable.

>>55069530
>>55069532
Fair enough. I prefer Puma/Panther for aesthetics though. Not like any of them are still supported.

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>>55069446
>owning macs

>>55069543
Panther's the best version aesthetically
>Not like any of them are still supported
Tiger and Leopard are, just not by Apple.

>>55069543
I used the early versions of OS X back when they were released, so while the aesthetics do have a certain charm to them, my nostalgia for them is outweighed by how piss-poor performance was, especially on 10.0 and 10.1. Jaguar (10.2) was a massive improvement, but the pinstripes fucking do your head in after a while. The UI revamp in Panther was sorely needed.

>>55069551
>owning x86 based computer and actually get fucked by NASA

>>55068796
>toddler OS
>best anything

>>55069569
>tfw both the Curiosity Rover and the Orion capsule run on G3s because they deal with radiation better than x86.

>>55069573
Ahhh, here we are. You are the persong judging the os by severely outdated memes. Objectively, the toddler os would be a FOSS one like Linux or BSD-based.

>>55069191
What the fuck is the design, faggot? "The user clicked on a button, move the window around or whatever. I don't care. Let me sleep. "

Mac OS's window manager is annoying because the designers refuse to implement common sense features. I want my windows either maximized, minimized or a custom size. The end.

And let's not forget that Mac OS hides your DE completely when you maximize a window. Who the fuck asked it to do that? That half inch of extra space my window gains isn't worth being stuck in the application I'm using like it's a prison.

>>55068936
>should've just licensed ZFS
And become Oracles cuck? No thank you sir!

>>55069619
For someone, maximizing a window to full size of monitor is not common sense. If you really need this there are 3rd party tools anyways.

>>55069619
>What the fuck is the design
Fit to content.
>Mac OS's window manager is annoying because
You don't have an issue with the WM itself, you've an issue specifically with applications that use fit to content. I don't use anything that does.
>And let's not forget that Mac OS hides your DE completely when you maximize a window
If you don't know what you're doing.

>>55069639
when i need to make a program big i just snap it to a edge

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>>55069639
>maximizing a window to full size of monitor is not common sense.
>If you really need this there are 3rd party tools anyways.

I don't have to reply. Just quoting you is funny. What you just said is objectively retarded.

>>55068813
So what? Sunk cost fallacy, if you really want to give it a shot, do so.

>>55069216
Most of this is really upsetting and makes me want to nuke Microsoft, but I disagree with their points about Metro.

Microsoft tried to overdesign their apps and software with Windows XP and Windows 7 and they just went way up their ass the whole time. There is no good way to make a graphic design for software. It ends up being an eyesore regardless of what it is because you look at it every day all the time "by the way" when using and focusing on your computer's functionalities, not its design. The only good design for graphic applications and environments is simple and void of any distraction or eye candy.

>>55069675
Maximizing a window to a full width is common sense. kys

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>>55068979
yep. i can also close a window in an application without closing the entire thing. and my OS comes with a built in screen recorder ;)

it looks like shit since yosemite

>>55069762
Subjective. I think Yosemite's the best looking version since Tiger.

>>55069721
But your OS can't maximize

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>>55069762

>>55069791
But that's wrong

>>55069791
alt + green button will maximise the window.

>>55069808
>SSL vulnerabilites, and unprotected system core for life

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>>55069831
>he thinks system integrity protection's a plus

>>55069831
All SSL vulnerabilities had been patched and/or was compiled before their introduction

>>55069854
i'm on your computer right now

>>55069872
Sure thing bud

>>55069854
>>55069872
and your ip is 127.0.0.1

>>55069872
Holy shit dude I'm there as well top kek

>>55068796
>Reserved for the system.
So OSX lies to you.

>>55069900
Linux master race here. To their defence, winshit also lies to their cuck userbase:

>Convert and send XDD
>Scan and Fix :DDD
>Troubleshoot Compatibility XDDD

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>>55069900
>wants to criticize something that he can't even spell correctly
Yeah, you're really showing that you know your stuff.

>>55069675
Can I download that squidward image? That's a pretty good reaction image.

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>>55069914
I honestly didn't know people with autism liked "OSX".

>>55069932
The photo wasn't related, I just haven't posted it in a while. And for the record, it's OS X. The X is a roman numeral.

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If macs are so good, why do they leave the most critical task of booting the system to MSDOS?

Checkmate mactards.

>>55069932
What goes around, comes around, eh? I saw you insult another anon for his English earlier

>>55069963
And people wonder why winbabbies are never taken seriously

>>55069963
lolxD msdos fs must mean msdos os

>>55069979
>msdos
>fs
wew lad

>>55069963
top bantz

>>55069978
>>55069979
>>55069963
Mediocre quality bait.

Really though why is fat called msdos sometimes? They usually mean vfat anyways.

>>55069779
>liking the flat look

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>>55069988
That's what it means, dumbass. It's FAT32.

>>55070016
It's almost as if opinions are a thing. Mindblowing, right?

>>55070009
Probably snooty Unix programmers who first had to integrate this filesystem looked at it with disgust as the filthy inferior "MS DOS" filesystem and dubbed it as such.

>>55070016
He liked tiger too. IMO Yosemite looks almost the same as Tiger. Jaguar (10.2) and Mavericks look better.

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>>55068796
Implying Windows doesn't have this search feature

>>55069315
APFS = MFS confirmed

>>55070048
Yeah I'm definitely not saying Yosemite is even near the best looking, just that it's better looking than 10.5-10.9

>>55070052
Hmmm... Do other file managers and versions like windows 7 and nautilus/kde file manager have?

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>>55068796
>applel poo in loos
>in charge of making a filesystem
>after the abominations that were hfs and hfs+

>>55070076
The file manager in kde is called dolphin.

>>55070018
No retard, it means it is MSDOS compatible. If you want the partition to be "MSDOS" compatible you will need to select a FAT partition type - The highest version will depend on the version of MSDos.

For MS-DOS 2.x type 1 (FAT 12) For MS-DOS 3.0 or greater type 6 (FAT 16)

Note that versions of MS-Dos prior to 3.3 you can only have a single partition, and before MS-DOS 4.0 the largest partition was 32 Megs. If you are wanting a "Windows Compatible" type, select FAT 32 (type b).

FAT is the FS

>>55070077
HFS was pretty good and advanced for 1985. It's still working alright even today, and it was made back when FAT couldn't store more than 8(or something) characters in filename.

>>55070116
Good morning Pajeet.

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>>55068796
Dolphin got you covered :^)

It also has an embedded terminal :^^)

>>55069033
Implying that a Mac isn't a personal computer

>>55070114
Sorry I'm not an expert on shit filesystems

>>55070134
Get out of tech board you computer illiterate macfaggot

>>55070114
Forgot to mention,
Codes meant for fdisk*

>>55070129
nobody in india had a computer in 1985

>>55070133
PC means IBM PC compatible. Macs weren't for the majority of their existence, only have been the last 10 years. The titles have stuck though, deal with it.

>>55068796
I think you meant to say Apple GS/OS, the IIGS was the last good product they put out.

>>55070167
I wasn't in the tech field then, forgive me

>>55070213
Go back to bed Grampa

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Basically this thread

>>55070213
There can't be a last when there was never a first.

>>55070231
The only OS that have problems are Linux and Windows

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>>55070242
Can't remember the last time I had an issue with Linux. Stay delusional macfag.

At this point, thread is nothing more than insulting each other. I blame tripfags.

>>55069721
>Learning Java
Underage faggot or retard.

>>55070323
>learning a programming language on youtube
The latter.

>>55070313
Living objects whose only purpose is spreading memes and funny pictures
They like to tell people to go back to /r/eddit, but really they are the ones who need to. They're here just because they'd get downvoted for being so retarded even for /r/eddit.
Apparently /r/eddit is spam now.

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>>55070422
Yup

>>55070130
>embedded terminal
Damn it KDE! Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should!

KParts destroyed KDE. Truly toxic tech.

/g/ out of all places should know that Apple FS is going to be another shitty, unoptimized, proprietary file system, but I'm sure it will have superior emoji file naming and searching support.

Stay clear of it.

You don't want to lock your data in a proprietary safe where you don't have the key while three letter agencies have it.

HFS+ although shitty has at least minimal support on Free OS's like Linux

>>55070575
new fs is open source

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>>55070499
Just give in to the KDE side, anon. Feel the power it grants you

>>55068837
>thumbs.db
"WinXP had it!!1" is your argument? really?

>>55069094
>apple actually fixes all the problems with their beta before relase, or they don't release.
too bad their release-versions regularly shit the bed.

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>boasts about a serch option
Wow hitting ctl+s was so hard

>>55070613
and vista and 7 and 8 and 10... Also forgot to add desktop.ini. one file is better than two.

>>55070640
then type a math calculation in there
or a boolean operator
even though i think your DE supports them

>>55070649
>___MACOSX

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>>55070670
Thats what I have this trusty program for

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>>55070742
>not using bc
Skeuomorphic calculators on non-touchscreens are stupid.

>>55070795
>using macshitOS
Homosexiality is a sin.

>>55070795
I have a touchscreen.

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>>55070795
>not using dc

>>55070808
GNU/Linux>Mac OS>Windows /thread

>>55070808
lel applel is for gays
homOSeX
>>55070813
Fair enough, even though it's faster to type the equation with a keyboard, assuming you have one.

>>55070817
>>55070795
>Both using proprietary garbage

>>55070837
you can use GNU bc if you need free garbage for some reason

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inb4

What you explained is precisely why it's the worst OS for the productivity of experienced users.

>>55070929
wouldn't that be windows
and misclicks happen too, it's better to confirm by pressing enter one time

>>55069169
>implying I spent more than an hour ricing and tweaking my shit over the past five years
>implying I debug or fix anything on my system

Did you know there's such a thing as an LTS release?
Did you know there's stable distros out there?

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>>55070849
>>55070848
Let me know whan you can do this (had to reduce framerate bc 4k screen)

>>55071012
Sacrificing rice for a better OS isn't much of a sacrifice at all. Sure it's neat that you've got a bunch of WMs and themes to choose from but it's hardly an argument.

>>55071012
All of them look godawful.

>>55071028
The only thing 'better' about mac OS is a lot is prepackaged. I have more options of things that provide the same function and a better X11 server system (for wine and wm).

>>55071070
Keep telling yourself that

>>55071070
>better X11 server system
Nothing X11 could be good.

I'd switch to linux if it had photoshop, final cut pro x, after effects and MS office.

>>55071012
Let you know when you can make it look like shit?

>>55071095
Xenocara

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>>55071054
Lets see your desktop. Btw you can rice linux to look like anything, this is my preference.

I'll switch to OSX when hackintosh supports AMD cards well

Or at least it doesn't go crazy when disabling vsync. Nobody, literally nobody plays CS:GO with vsync enabled.

>>55071095
>switch to linux if it had photoshop, final cut pro x, after effects and MS office
Which is why I mentioned wine and X11. I switched to Wayland already but I have X11 capability.

>>55071125
Your preference is a shitty OS X knockoff that doesn't implement the good features but implements the shit ones?

>>55071128
>OSX when hackintosh supports AMD cards well


That'll never happen. Linux has great AMD support and Im pretty sure CSGO is availible on linux.

>>55071139
Ability to maximize is not a shit ability anon

>>55071139
>oesn't implement the good features but implements the shit ones?
Dont post here. Learn what unix is.

>>55071151
Great my ass, but vastly superior to OSX support at least. CS:GO is totally playable there. It's just GCN 1.0 cards are fucked until AMD is kind enough to finish up with AMDGPU

>>55071163
Nice meme, I can maximize programs in OS X.

>>55071169
The fuck are you on about?

>>55071095
X11 is the WM of macOS btw

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>>55071136
Photoshop was awful in wine
wine doesnt support other programs i listed
MSOFFICE is ok though, but native would be better
>>55071125
:)
>>55071207
X11 isn't a WM and the WM of OS X is quartz and Mac OS had color toolbox or something

>>55071195
UNIX systems tend to look similar considering they use similar library systems. Plus Linux is a far more feature rich continuation of Unix than macOS and thats at a kernel level.

>>55071237
Linux (GNU) is Not Unix.

Where can I buy or download OSX so I can try it? Does it work well with PC hardware?

Can I run most of windows software on it? Will it support my uplay/steam/origin games?

>>55069721
>that cancerous animation

>>55068827
>>55068837
Good thing Linux has none of this crap

>>55071246
>and the WM of OS X is quartz and Mac OS had color too
It is a fork of it. Were all adults here.

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>>55071264
It's absolutely free, and works on most intel and nvidia computers. You can run some windows software like adobe programs. Yes it does support Steam and Origin. Download in Mac App Store or buy an old version at amazon or ebay.

>>55069021
WWDC, despite its name, doesn't target developers

>>55071292
a fork of what?

>>55071310
Of unix. Well based off it at least.

>>55071293
>FreeBSD knock off low performance kernel

>>55071264
1. Apple store. You'll have to download an el capitan VM image and create an usb installer through that machine with unibeast.

2. Depends. If you use nvidia you're fine. If you're using a modern AMD GPU, you're going to get low performance.

3. No, not most. It does have WINE too. However you'll have more native support than linux for applications related to design or anything that is more in a commercial field, like MS Office.

4. Depends on which steam or origin games you have and like I said, if you use an AMD GPU you might as well give up on those.

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>>55071292
>>55071323
>Linux is a Unix fork
>telling others to learn what Unix is

>>55071293
>Mac App Store

How do I access it? Do you have a direct link to the iso and I can run Windows & OSX on same SSD right? Also I'd like the newest version if possible.

I have R9 390X, i assume it's supported?

Will I get better performance in games?

Thanks

>>55068796
Only thing that still bugs me when I have to work on OS X is the way you can't navigate in most GUI's using the keyboard.
Feels like a waste of time.

>>55071377
There is no iso. You have to use el capitan through VMWare, create an apple account and use it to download the installer, which alone won't work for your PC. You have to then create an account in tonymacx86 and follow the tutorials in there.

With your 390X you'll have power management and sleep issues and don't even plan on playing anything without vsync enabled or you're in for a ride.

Seriously if you plan to play games just either dual boot or even use linux, which is already 10 times better with that.

>>55071377
You can do everything in first part, just search for direct link on sites like rutracker.org or thepiratebay.
>he fell for amd meme

>>55071336
>freeBSD

>>55070435
apt on Gentoo?

You madman.

>>55071599
That was a hostname

>>55071599
>>55071606
naming ubuntu or debian as gentoo
maximum kek

>>55069067
Everyone's defending/bitching at the maximize thing. I am sitting here wondering why the fuclk the side panel opened when you maximized it.

>>55071656
Safari does so automatically
Weird because no other app does that

>>55071121
wut

>>55071227
do linux or windows have a built in thesaurus?

>>55070693

>>55070693
THIS ONE is not created by newer versions of OS X

>>55068810
Okey.
"Siri, remember to make a thread in 2017 to show anon my consumer friendly version of ZFS"

>>55068936
>should've just licensed ZFS
ZFS isn't perfect at all. ZFS isn't really necessary for PCs.

>>55069900
Uh, no. Generally hidden files are for system files.

>>55069051
u baka

do you say applel as apple but ending with l or app-lel?

>>55071267
>>that cancerous animation
Yeah, I'm sure you wouldn't say the same thing about the many Linux Distros with even more elaborate animations.

>>55069067
>Plebs bitch about macOS problems easily solved with free programs while bragging about their riced Lagdroid and Linux setups.

BetterTouchTool and a few other tools have had the snapping feature for ages. BTT was free until recently, but I purchased it as I'd used it for years and the guy deserved it.

>>55069700

I disagree. Productivity is increased when the user finds their work environment to be aesthetically pleasing, and since in many cases the software is a portion of your workspace, it is helpful for that to be aesthetically pleasing as well.

While good under-the-hood design is imperative, (and I will be the first to admit that Windows does not excel here), good top - level interactions are equally (if not more) important.

Nonetheless, Metro is definitely better on mobile, and in my opinion has no place on the desktop.

>>55076178
hammerspoon is free and lets you code it all in lua

>>55069129
>somehow the fedoraproject has less vulnerabilities than the very kernel it uses

I don't see why you people post this fake ass image all the time.

>>55069822
>brand geared toward normies
>have to use keyboard shortcuts just to maximize a window

And you guys think that's a good idea? Kek

>>55077509
You don't have to, you are supposed to double tap the title bar.

>>55068796

maybe if they actually let you keep the laptop running when you close the lid...

and prevent the system from throttling itself to a crawl

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>>55068796
your image is wrong

>>55077605
Good job knowing nothing

>>55070973
Ubuntu's latest LTS release sucks so much.

>>55068796
>2016
>doesn't have a vertical taskbar option

>>55076131
>linux distros
I think you mean the window managers that each DE brings and yes, I hate those too, but most I know aren't activated by default.

>>55078586
*but most I know don't have those animations activated by default.

>>55077839
The fuck are you on about? Any decent OS has no taskbar.

>>55077265
That's the vanilla Linux kernel, which is usually modified by each distro developer, that's why you usually don't see just, in other words, Fedora uses a modified version of the kernel, which is, acodring to that image, more secure.

>>55078620
That's why OSX has two.

>>55078631
Why aren't these fixes implemented upstream or adopted by other distros?

>>55078651
It has zero. Even if you try to count the dock as a taskbar, it's had a vertical option for years, which makes your point moot anyway.

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>>55078692
>It has zero

>>55078708
That's not a taskbar dumbass

>>55078726
It's even less than one, it's a toolbar that's present onscreen all the time

>>55078746
It's a global menu bar. Why you would want it to do anything more than what it does is beyond me.

>>55078757
It'd like to stop wasting my vertical space with it.

>>55078767
Maximum autism

>>55078768
Great argument. How does every decent OS manage this but not OSX?

>>55078791
>great argument
Well it is what your problem is.
>How does every decent OS manage this but not OSX?
Because OS X does it differently (and superiorly). Don't like it? Don't use it.

hmmm this osx looks pretty good to me!

>>55078791
Have what? What exactly are you arguing for/against? I have this odd feeling that you're misinformed and/or retarded...

>>55079381
He doesn't like menu bars.

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>>55079403
kek

Making a huge deal over that, what a moron. He doesn't even realize you have the option of hiding it.

>>55079439
You do? That would remove a lot of functionality. Unless you mean fullscreen applications.

>>55069067
https://www.spectacleapp.com/
fixed it for ya

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>>55079468
I don't use it, and if I do, only for desktop screenshots.

>>55079511
Oh neat, I never noticed that before.

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>>55079480
>mactards have to use proprietary 3rd party hacks to fix basic usability in macshitOS

>>55079567
They really don't, it's just for nitpicky autists

>>55079567
Do you really enjoy doing this with your life?

>>55079511
This doesn't actually free the vertical space from a usability sense though, it only makes things worse.
>want to press button on the top bar of an application
>oops, bar shows itself automatically and cockblocks my buttons

>>55079714
Except that doesn't happen, you made that up.

>>55079714
Only if you hit the upper edge and dwell there for a microsecond. If you stand even one pixel below the upper edge, it won't trigger, autist.

>>55079743
The best way to use an app's top bar is to have it hug the screen top, though

>>55079763
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>55079743
>using autist toddlerOS
>calls someone else autist

>>55079773
Practicality

Why are wintards so fucking cancerous and childish?

>>55079788
But what you're saying makes no sense. What is a 'top bar'? What does 'hug the screen top' mean?

>>55079787
ebin memes bro xD

>>55079799
Top bar = top toolbar of whatever application you want to use in fullscreen, usually a browser or an image editor
Hug the screen top = the buttons touch the edge of the screen so you can fling your mouse over them easier

>>55079833
On a display with 1080 vertical pixels, you have 1079 to work with. What are you complaining about again?

>>55079833
>top toolbar
That's what the global menu bar is, what the fuck?

Stop talking about shit you don't know about.

>>55079905
Keyword is "fling"
On a macbook you're using a touchpad, right
You know how imprecise those things are

>>55079926
You've never used a macbook trackpad. Want to know how I can tell?

>>55068796
2 rupees have been deposited in your designated shitting street Pajeet.

>>55079942
I do actually, how can you tell?

>>55079942
>le trackshit is gud maymay
Fuck off Rajeesh.

>>55079926
They're very nice to use actually, I even use one on my desktop.

>>55069067
ok, i can sort of understand the first click which appears to maximize while preserving the windows' aspect ratio
but what determines the second click? i don't see any reason why it ends up the way it does

>>55079954
I can tell you don't because you don't even know what the global menu bar is.

>>55079983
Except not every app uses the global menu bar

>>55080000
Literally all of them do

>>55080000
Are you solely running X11 software on your Mac?

>>55080025
But that's not right
>>55080040
Kind of

>>55080064
>But that's not right
But it is. Every Mac OS graphical application uses it.
>Kind of
So then shut the fuck up and deal.

>>55068837
thumbs.db has nothing on .DS_Store which is an entire directory of shit bundled with your archive.

thumbs.db isn't even a thing anymore anyway.

>>55080064
I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about software that was actually made for the OS you're using.

>>55068796
Can I install Mac OS X with Russian language on x2 550 BE unlocked + radeon hd 7850 ?

I am bored as fuck, might as well try it.

>>55068796
>toddler toy OS
>The best OS to exist

Pick one.

>>55068796
It literally combines the best of Windows and Linux: It's not free, and if something breaks, you will have to use a command line.

>>55080124
Is it fun to make the same post over and over every day?

>>55080132
>It literally combines the worst of Windows and Linux
Fixed.

>>55080140
Is it fun to eat shit from your hands over and over every day?

>>55080152
It was literally a joke you autist.

>>55080140
Is it fun to make the same post-purchase rationalization thread to defend your crippling buyer's remorse over and over every day?

>>55080165
>>55080184
Nice samefagging

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>>55080140
Is it fun to defend your favored megacorp religion and do it for free over and over every day?

>>55080096
.DS_Store is a file, not a directory, Prakeet.

I think I'd shit myself if I ever saw a rational Apple thread on /g/

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>>55080214
Legitimate question: Why DO appletards have literally no hobbies, interests, or a personality other than their fruity toys?

>>55080283
Because you suffer from confirmation bias

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>>55080283
>attributing human qualities like having a personal identity to macfags

That was your first mistake.

>>55069013
any non apple laptops that are nicely compatible with OSX? i need to buy a new laptop anyways

>>55080459
See tonymacx86 or something.

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>>55080459
>OSX

>>55080459
rMBP

>non apple laptops
kek

>>55080490
>overheating throttling applel toddler toys
kek

>>55080500
24 rupees have been deposited into your designated shitting street, Rahal.

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>>55080520
>shills PajeetBook
>trying to play the indian meme on someone else

Poo in the fucking loo Rajeesh.

>>55080565
18 rupees have been deposited into your designated shitting street, Bajeet.

>>55069315
>have backup folder
>open "important document"
>opens the backup one instead
thanks apple

>he doesn't use btrfs
wow hows using a filesystem that works like its straight out of the 90s working for you?

>>55082573
>implying I don't
System and home partitions are the only things with HFS+, everything's stored on a server using Btrfs

>>55070808
>Homosexiality is a sin.
wrath is a sin