/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

What are you waiting for in the mail, /tpg/?

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>>55025912
Nothing, at long last. I am complete.

Third for BIOS update tool for linux plz

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Working on my T420S today, installing a FHD screen, changing out the keyboard and applying new thermal paste.

>>55025970
800th for use the fucking bootable image

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>>55025912
A big ass nalgene water bottle.
>2016
>not keeping hydrated
>drinking out of bpa containers
Shiggy dooggily doo.

>>55025976

Where'd you get the board to power the FHD?

>>55025976
>working on a fucking tea towel
>dat ESD

Put a trigger warning on that shit

>>55025988
>still plastic
>not glass

>>55026107
>plastic
Also glass is to heavy and impractical.

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>>55026013
eBay, from RMSMajestic
>>55026088
Didn't stop it from working.

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>>55026157
ESD damage doesn't kill devices instantly,

are all t420s the same or are there different models?

if so, where can I see them and compare them all?

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>>55025976
>mobo directly on TOWEL

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>>55025912
nothing. i have an x220 already

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>>55026572
X220's are great.

>>55026510
fucking A+ post

Which ThinkPad comes with a metal chassis?

What would you guy"s preferred business laptop with a QM i7 in it be? They're all so fuck huge and I can't afford a w520. I know I can put one in a t520 but they struggle with it. I'm looking to replace my desktop on a budget, looking for similar CPU performance to a 2500k. HP makes some nice shit but the battery life is horrendous

>>55026703
T, R, L, X, W, P series.

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just leaving this here

>>55026915
It's true. Anything newer than x230/t430 is SHIT.
Older thinkpads (with 32nm overheating sandy bridge cpus and even older 1st gen i5/i7) are also shit.

>>55026989
So your are saying that the only ThinkPad worth getting are?

>>55026989
>X230/T430
Nice panels, faggot. What's it like using 1366x768 in 2016 while knowing that I had 1600x1200 in 2006?

>>55027133
For a 12.5 inch screen its not that bad.

>>55027151
You keep telling yourself that.

>>55025976
protip. put your screws in an empty egg carton or icecube tray

>>55025988
christ is that 2L?

thoughs on thinkpad 13?

http://shop.lenovo.com/es/es/laptops/thinkpad/13-series/13-windows/

>>55026107
tritan homie

>>55026716
It's really not worth trying to replace a desktop if you're trying to roll like that, especially if you need some graphics power and don't want to spend in which case it *will* end in tears. The mobile processors save for something rapey like the ones in the new P series will always be substantially less capable unless your desktop is *really* old

>>55026703
X series is all Mg alloy (except for 11.6" models), T series slim is Mg alloy base with plastic lid (T430u is all Al), T60 and older are Mg alloy as are R series of the same era, Titanium lid Z series is as its name says
No fucking clue on the really new ones

Hi /g/ what's the comfiest between t4* serie and x2* ? I asked you about battery life and ssd on the t460 yesterday but i'm beginning to think that an x260 would be better for portability, is it like having a netbook or is the size okay ?

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>>55025912
a fucking cardigan that was supposed to be delivered yesterday AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
drone postal service fucking WHEN

>>55027297
>>55026756
Based, thanks guys.

My boss let me keep the thinkpad I used for work when I left. I don't really know what to do with it besides salvage the SSD

>>55027497
Which model is it?

>>55027363
I'm using a x230 right now.
It's great as a portable device. But the small screen and low resolution does make it hard to use programs like netbeans or similar software.
As a word processor its great

>>55027513

x61s

>>55027558
Install Linux, use as a netbook.

>>55027558
That's a cute Thinkpad, I think it can be modded to fit a 1400x1050 IPS panel, would make for a prime comfy shitposting machine.

>>55027538

Okay thanks, Idk your resolution but it must be under 1080p, with the new x260 I can have a 1080p resolution so that could fix this issue, but I think I will chose it over a t460* as it's portable :) since it will be for my studies :D

Anyone know of a good place to get cheap T420 keyboard keys, or a new keyboard altogether? The keys on my T420's are very used and pretty much glossed over, I'd like to get some less used ones that still have their matte finish.

Have a x61 in storage. Was thinking giving it a 32GB SSD from Ali and Win 10. Will it run 10 okay or should I keep it at Win7? It has 4GB RAM.

>>55027781
I don't think Lenovo supplied Windows 10 drivers for the *61 generation.

I have a Haswell rMBP and I might give to a relative and get a Thinkpad, I'd like to get a T420 but it really seems like most of the resellers have nightmarish reviews and i don't want to spend $200~ to play case/screen lottery.

Depressing

>>55025902
So I just bought my first thinkpad (t61) and I have a bunch of noob questions. I know this is 4chan so I'll take things with a grain of salt, but any advice would be appreciated.

I would like to upgrade the RAM to 8GB, it's currently 4GB. Where can I get this much RAM? I've only been able to find RAM this size for old macs, and I'm not sure if the RAM itself is different but don't want to shell out unless I know what I'm getting into.

According to the guide and the paperwork, I have a T9300 CPU. Will this be able to handle a 64 bit OS or should I go with 32?

All in all I'm really happy with it, I tried Ubuntu from the CD and I'm getting performance comparable to my 2013 Macbook Pro, at around 25x cheaper. I'll have to see how things go.

>>55028008
>Where can I get this much RAM?
Ebay. Hope you have $100 to spare.

>According to the guide and the paperwork, I have a T9300 CPU. Will this be able to handle a 64 bit OS or should I go with 32?
All CPUs available for the T61 are 64-bit. T9300 handles Windows 7 without a hitch, never mind less bloated Linux distros.

>>55028008
>core 2 duo era laptop
>8gb ram

Sorry buddy, 32bit is 32bit. 3.9 GB of ram max will be read, and I don't think that CPU will handle a 64bit OS nicely. Go with 32bit.

>>55028008
You should have bought a T400.

DDR2 RAM is expensive.
Also your limit is 4GB RAM, you cant add more.

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W520 master race reporting in

>>55026989
My Sandy Bridge stays cool as a cucumber. Maybe you should try using some thermal paste, faggot.

>>55028046
>>55028067
Wrong, dumbasses. T61 is 64-bit and can take up to 8GB of RAM. See >>55025945

>>55028089
Isn't the limit of 2nd gen C2D 4GB? and i know it is 64Bit, i dont know what the other anon is talking about.

>>55028046
>>55028067
According to the thinkpad wiki the maximum is 8GB, and I've seen T61s running 8GB before.
>https://t61.wikispaces.com/

>>55028034
>Ebay. Hope you have $100 to spare.
Sounds good, and I do. I usually get a new rMBP every few years but if I can just go with one of these I can probably soup it up and still save quite a bit of money.

Thanks guys!

>>55026157
can you do this on t420?

>>55028103
T9300 is Penryn, third-generation (unless you consider Merom first generation and Yonah a separate thing altogether, which I guess isn't wrong). 8GB works perfectly.

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Post em

>>55028139
Enjoy it, anon. It wasn't easy for me to cannibalize the T61 I got for my T601F build. They're very well-made machines, probably the finest Lenovo's ever produced.

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>>55025912
Nothing, I already have a T520.
Bit tempted to get an X220T, though.

I have the S230u. I just replaced its battery - it was retardedly time consuming. Also, I have one screw left over after re-assembly.

>>55028380
I'm not surprised that you fucked that up seeing as you can't even do any research before buying a laptop.

>>55028440
It was a gift. Laptops are shit and I'd never buy one.

>>55028002
Message them and ask. Message several sellers. Ask about the model and screen res. If you buy one and they lied, refund it or get a massive discount.

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Thinking about getting a Thinkpad T460p with 72whr battery. Anyone else have it?

Also, does anyone know if I could set it up with an EGPU? It has a M.2-2242 slot in it, not Pci-e unfortunately...

>>55028719
T460p is housefire-tier, wouldn't recommend. Get a P50 if you want a powerful new Thinkpad, IIRC it also has Thunderbolt 3 so it would support eGPUs using that connector.

>>55028739
>Get a P50

I would but it seems pretty damn big for moving day to day on a college campus. Plus I don't need a full blown workstation, is the t460p really that bad at cooling?

>also thunderbolt 3 is pretty damn expensive relative to other egpu solutions.

From the comments here. I thought the t420 was going to be this ugly fat black box, but it looks absolutely fine. I took it out the other day to Starbucks. No one batted an eye.

>>55028851
I got a x220t and only get compliments.

>>55028851
Anyone who's commented on any of my Thinkpads is usually impressed with the features or price, or is familiar with them and has respect for the brand. /g/ doesn't know shit about normies. Sure, it's a big heavy black box and not a thin and light macbook knockoff, but when you pop out that hotswappable hard drive like it's nothing, the jaws hit the floor.

I installed my OS on my new mSATA SSD in my t420 but I seem unable to boot from it. I choose it in the boot menu and I just get a flicker and it goes back to the boot menu. I feel like I might have missed something very basic or done something stupid. Is there anything special I should have done other than just installing the thing underneath and formatting it like an HDD?

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>>55025912
>What are you waiting for in the mail, /tpg/?

Motivation to try and get my eGPU to fucking work

pic not mine

>>55029514
>he fell for the eGPU meme

>>55029514
>Motivation to try and get my eGPU to fucking work

Can you fill us in anon with the specs of everything you're working on here?

I just picked up my first ThinkPad, T420 2nd gen i5 @2.5, 8GB RAM, 160GB SSD and it looks in excellent condition, for £120.

Did I do good or fuck up?

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>>55029530

Literally an adaptor was on sale for like 30 or 40 quid and my desktop works fine as it is, it's just a fun hobby / for travel possibly.

>>55029537
Ive posted here a couple times in the last few months but basically no forum has the same issues I have.
X220, 8GB ram so it's not the 16GB glitch, using 750W PSU so it's not low power, 660Ti with PE4C 3.0 so it's not the gen 1 vs gen 2 PCIe issue, everything just werked and auto installed itself.

Problem is it randomly crashes into BSOD with no identifiable error messages. Seems to happen anywhere between 5 minutes to 5 hours after boot, and seems to be more likely to happen if I'm playing newer more graphically intense games / if the computer is hotter.
To be more precise, the screen goes black first, sometimes I have a 'nvidia driver stopped responding' message if it fixes itself, and the sound loops 1 second of sound, similar to how source games loop sound when they crash.
I found a single other person complaining about BSOD on his PE4C 3.0, but no fix

But I'm lazy anyway - I could try it on my X201 thinkpad, I haven't tried a fresh windows 7 install even though my version is rather modified and that could be the issue.

Once it works I wanna DIY my own box for it all so I can shove it in a bag and take it with me.


The best part about eGPU so far thou is that it can indeed output at 144hz on high refresh rate monitors.

What Thinkpad got/gets the best battery life?

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My current lock screen pape

>>55029665
X230 with 9cell+12cell slice, probably.

>>55029647
have you monitored the CPU and GPU temps while recreating the crash?

Maybe try with different PSU to see if it's due to power fluctuations with the 750W one.

Good luck to you.

>>55029647
Sounds like an issue with Nvidia drivers to me. You should know better than to believe memes.

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>>55029759
Honestly it's fine if it never works out, it's just for fun. I have a desktop. I haven't even tried custom drivers yet.
PC World used my exact same laptop and adaptor and got it to work, as have many other people. And it works, just crashes sometimes.

>>55029755
Yea I have, also CPU load. Didn't find any patterns in particular. And I don't have a spare GPU or spare PSU to test different ones, but I can pick some up if I'm bothered

Thanks man

>>55029738
Thanks

>>55029514
>tfw I still need a monitor arm.
At least i replaced the little cardboard monitor with another Dell.

Any thoughts on the t430u?

>>55027297
Late as fuck reply. The reason I'm doing this is because I don't need the graphics anymore. It seems that the second gen mobile quads and even more so the third gen ones are very comparable performance wise. I just generally have a heavy desktop workload. Shit loads of tabs, 1080p flash/html5 video going, a vm, etc. This first gen i3 that I'm on now is struggling with no streams or vms open.

I'm thinking maybe just a high spec t430s and if I need more after that I'll throw together a desktop with a used xeon or sandy or something. Maybe zen

>>55026716
>I know I can put one in a t520 but they struggle with it.
This is untrue, T520 cooling should be more than capable of handling a quad core, it was designed to.

>>55030869
I think you may be right. I see a thread with someone struggling with overheating but it seems to be isolated. There is also a post stating that depending on the psu that you have you may run into issues when doing cpu intensive shit.

Leaning towards buying the 2520m t520 and throwing in a i7-2960XM or another sandy quad down the road.

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>The International Space Station is equipped with approximately 100 T61p and A31 model Thinkpads
...Aren't those shit models?

>>55031162
I own a t61p. They have an issue with the GPU dying but mine has been used heavily and the gpu is still fine. It does run hot as lava when doing anything srs but getting rid of heat is exceptionally easy in fucking space

>>55031237
>getting rid of heat is exceptionally easy in fucking space
I'm pretty sure the opposite of that is true

>>55031162
No, those are some of the best. A series was the GOAT in its time and the *61 generation are the one time Lenovo outright improved on previous designs without fucking anything up. They don't need cutting-edge specs up there, they need shit that works and can be easily fixed if it ever doesn't work.

>>55028103
>Isn't the limit of 2nd gen C2D 4GB
It's chipset that determines that. Napa is limited to 4GB, Santa Rosa and Montevina can do 8GB.

>>55031162
>>55031237
>>55031278

Look on the bright side, they're getting replaced with HP ZBooks

>>55031265
All the hard sf I have read has lead me astray if that is the case. I am deeply confused

>>55031323
There's no convective cooling in space, just radiative.

Unless, of course, your blood boils, then you get some evaporative cooling aspect from that....

I posted a few days ago about my t61p getting very hot and shutting down easily and someone told me to apply thermal paste. Just wanted to say thanks, that did the trick. The computer still gets warm but not you-could-fry-eggs-on-it-hot.

>>55031342
>run heatsink pipes out into space

There's a novel where they build a massive orbiting reactor and cools it's self by extruding molten metal and recollecting it. Exactly like water cooling but space serves as the radiator. Thought that shit was so cool

So I fell for the thinkpad meme

How easy is debian install on the T420, do I need to do anything special to get shit to work or can I just use the normal cd iso fine?

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>>55028719
Bump, anyone know if I could use eGPU with the T460p?

>>55031462
>How easy is debian install on the T420, do I need to do anything special to get shit to work or can I just use the normal cd iso fine?
normal CD iso works fine. Consider using a USB key tho.

>>55031564
Yeah I meant that on a USB, what I was really meaning to ask was does everything work out of the box or do I have to install a bunch of shit to get buttons/wifi/whatever working

>>55031584
Oh. Haven't used Debian in a long time, mostly because I got tired of broken shit. Went to Fedora, FWIW, still there.

>>55031429
>computer gets too hot
>>put new thermal paste on it
>wow dude that worked
Stay safe Anon.

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Why is my W500 throttling my performance on battery? this is bullshit.

this fucking game even has a fucking fps counter option, so i can watch it go from a semi-usable 15fps to a bullshit 6-9 by plugging or unpligging my laptop.

i have tried everything i could to fix this. i even googled "prevent laptop throttling", used a sketchy-looking .reg file from the site, and granted 100% access or smth to "core parking min cores" and this throttling is still fuckin happening on battery.

please help me. it's cockblocking me something fierce. In lenovo power manager my plan is "maximum performance" with everything set exactly the same for "Battery settings" and "AC settings"

>>55031652
>why doesn't my highly powerful but not very efficient mobile workstation just fucking destroy my battery within a minute of being unplugged?

>>55031690
i was asking why i don't have the freedom to do so, not why it would be a poor decision to do so.

are we really talking about this? the W500 has switchable graphics. There is no reason for Lenovo to cockblock me in this regard but then freely let me use my "High Performance" GPU over my "Energy Saving" GPU on battery. it is just taking away my freedom in one regard but not the other on the same issue. Are we really talking about this???

>>55031741
It probably can't draw the wattage it needs for the total system power from the battery alone.

Should I upgrade from my t420 to a t430s?

>>55028149
It apparently causes a screen flicker on the t420. I think you can do it on the t430 though. Look at that thread by RMSMajestic.

>>55031756
Oh... i understand...

I remember reading of a certain x-series thinkpad that is throttled even on AC provided the charger is not of a certain amount of volts.

Thanks for the answer... cheers... i am still disappointed, but i realize now it is not Lenovo's fault tech has its limits...

>>55031756
The opposite, actually. The battery has a fuckton of burst current capacity. The power adapter does not.

>>55026088
>>55026510
if it's cotton, resting on wood, that's actually a decent choice.

>>55027297
>X series is all Mg alloy (except for 11.6" models), T series slim is Mg alloy base with plastic lid (T430u is all Al)
X2X series have plastic lid as well, not sure about T2X.

>>55027583
>That's a cute Thinkpad, I think it can be modded to fit a 1400x1050 IPS panel, would make for a prime comfy shitposting machine.
Sure can. Put a Daylight LED backlight in it, and you can even use it in direct sunlight :-)

Why the t420 is so loved for you people?? Ñ

>>55031950
It's cheap for the specs. That's its only redeeming quality, really.

>>55031929
No, the X220/X230 has a Mg lid.

>>55031440
What novel? I'd like to read it.

>>55031980
X2X, like X21, X22, X23, etc, not X220.

Is it even possible to find an x220 without a fucking webcam?

>>55032077
Just remove it.

>>55032096
>Remove webcam
>Gaping hole in laptop
Or am I retarded?

>>55032133
Thinkpads have a little adhesive window cover over the webcam.

>>55032133
Use the bios to disable it.

>>55032158
Oh, so I'm retarded. Thanks.
>>55032174
It's not a privacy thing, I just think it looks tacky. Picky, I know.

>>55032009
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lZS9wuhx8goC&lpg=PA211&ots=6EkIx4HpMV&dq=thinkpad%20titanium%20plastic&pg=PA211#v=onepage&q=thinkpad%20titanium%20plastic&f=false

Titanium composite in IBM marketing speak. Read: plastic with some titanium mixed in

>>55032339
>Titanium composite in IBM marketing speak. Read: plastic with some titanium mixed in
Composites are always something mixed into a resin.

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>>55032077
a hole puncher + black insulating tape, t420s

>>55032402
Steve Jobs ripped the shit out of it when he introduced the Titanium G4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXc0tgdJSo&t=93m35s

>>55032456
>Steve Jobs ripped the shit out of it when he introduced the Titanium G4
Steve Jobs was a psycopathic tyrant who would have sold his own mother for a black turtleneck.

>>55026915
if those memebooks are so great why don't they use them in space as opposed to gookpads?
The PR team at NASA seems to be the only group using macbooks and that is probably because Apple donated them so they can have free advertisement

>>55027363
I wouldn't want to do real work on a 12"
14" is comfy
The new "ThinkPad 13" might be suitable for some

I'll get a T440s soon

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>>55027363
>>55032607
Maybe the ThinkPad 13 is for you

hey guys.
thinking of thinkpad e460 i5/8gb/fhd 14inch w/o dedicated graphics (so just intel).
for about 950AUD/700USD is that ok?

>>55032456
>mfw thinkpads from 2000 are in general better condition then the 2000 TiBooks are.

Shit hinges and the paint chipping of the titanium

>>55027133
My t430 has a 1600 panel.

Where are you getting your intro from faggot?


>>55025976
Where did you get the kit and the screen from?


Looking to do this to my 430s

>>55032804
is never okay to buy E series faggot.

Read the fucking op.

get a zenbook 3 instead.
thinkpads are dead

>>55032844
>>mfw thinkpads from 2000 are in general better condition then the 2000 TiBooks are.
The hinges on my Ti cracked and the screen came off in 2004.

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>>55031555
Don't want to be a faggot and make a new thread for this, so I'll bump again, anyone know if I could use eGPU with the T460p?

>>55025902

Here's for anyone in Australia looking for a
ThinkPad:

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/lenovo-thinkpad-t430-14-notebook-i53320m-8gb-180gb-ssd-win7pro-refurbished-ab83114

>>55033034
As far as I know the only standard interfaces that can do eGPU are mPCIe, Expresscard, and Thunderbolt 3. If the T460p doesn't have any of those I think you're shit outta luck.

>>55032911
ohshit. not e460 but yoga lmao.
still, the build qual is probably shit, but i'm not expecting much anyway.
thx brah 4 ur input

>>55033011
Yeah, apparnetly it was an issue with the 1st 2 gens. My 2nd gen i bought a few months back for keks is still in really good shape, but i doube many out there look nicer than most aluminum macbooks.

>>55033109
also. i'm a povo 1 sem into my undergrad. hopefully this lenovo lasts ~4yrs. will upgrade ssd + maybe ram

>>55028851
The Thinkpad design is literally part of the MoMA permanent exhibit, it's a timeless design like the PowerBook G4
People saying it's ugly are memeing hard

>>55031994
I believe that one was Saturn Run

>>55033320
Thank you.

I know I should not talk about the newer thinkpad here but

What would you choose between:
Thinkpad 13
X1 carbon (2015)

Same price

>>55033577
Carbon.

>>55031162
Whats funny is that the A31p has a GPU overheating issue because it didn't get a heatsink (a lot of videocards didn't at that time) and the T61 has the nvidia BGA issue.

I believe NASA modifies equipment before they went out to space, so I presume it would not be bad.
They are sought after on ebay.

>>55033577
I'd get the 13 if it was FHD IPS.
Not a fan of the X1C3, happy with my T430s, have two X300's and buildwise, X1C3 sucks

>>55025902

A couple weeks ago I bought a SL510 with a core 2 due t6670, 4gb of ddr3, and 260gb of storage.

Did I fuck up?

>>55033889
>SL
yea

>>55033913
What's wrong with the SL series?

>>55034417

>The SL Series was launched in 2008 as a low-end ThinkPad targeted mainly geared toward small businesses. These lacked several traditional ThinkPad features, such as the ThinkLight, magnesium alloy roll cage, Ultrabay, and lid latch, and use a 6-row keyboard with a different layout than the traditional 7-row ThinkPad keyboard. Models offered included 14" (SL400 and SL410) and 15.6" (SL500 and SL510). A 13.3" model (SL300) was previously offered, but discontinued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad#SL_Series

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I'm looking to buy my first thinkpad but I'm a bit torn between the IBM X60s, IBM X60 tablet, and the Lenovo T61. I like the tablet feature, but I'm running into issues finding one in my price range. I really want a low cost and druable laptop. I am not which one I can get the most use out of and not run into any major issues.

>>55034453
oh.

that doesn't sound THAT bad all things considered. Still, I should have looked harder to find a better one for a similar price.

Best online guide for reapplying thermal paste on X220?

>>55032731
I've never seen that model before. I know it's not IBM era but it's gorgeous. Good MacBook clone.

Has anyone considered putting a different color carbon fiber vinyl on their dankpad aside from black? I feel like white or silver may look good if done well.

>>55034642
>carbon fiber
>a different color aside from black
um.....

>>55034642
I kind of want to wrap my t420 entirely in plain white.

>>55034813
It's not real carbon fiber, just a pattern.

>>55034965
>It's not real carbon fiber, just a pattern.
It's not even a carbon fiber pattern if it's not black. It's just rainbow colored fiberglass in that case.

>>55034986
Yep. There aee some places that sell it, but it's just fiberglass woven with cf. I kind of think it's tacky looking anyways.

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>>55035120
>>55034986
>>55034965
I'm going to try this. If it looks like shit oh well it's just a big sticker and $10

>>55034642
>I've never seen that model before. I know it's not IBM era but it's gorgeous. Good MacBook clone.
Reviews suggest that the 13 is mostly good. The build quality is somewhat mediocre.

>>55033889
If you paid any more than 50 dollaridoos for it, yes.

SERIOUS QUESTION ALERT:

So I bought a X230, Love it BUT the screen/resolution is not the best..

It's TN, would switching it to an IPS panel really make a big difference? I mean the resolution is still the same..

>>55025902
How do I know if the used thinkpad i'm hypothetically buying has a backdoor on it? I read some stuff about that and I'm curious.

>>55035242
IPS is always preferable
There are decent TNs but Lenovo has a habit of choosing the worst ones in some models.
My T400's TN is really awful

>>55035242
It'll look more like the screen your phone has.

>>55035365
I highly doubt it will look like my 5.7" 1440x2560 phone.

I use a 23'' 1920x1080 IPS monitor for my desktop so im not really use to seeing each individual pixel like on my X230

Why does everyone hate Yoga's? There's a sale for a 460 for $948AUD, which is like $900 off the retail. I was thinking of getting it

>>55035447
You really fucked up by not considering that before purchasing. Some people don't give a shit about resolution but I don't understand it. The two most important parts of the laptop, to me, are the trackpad and the display. You're not going to be happy if either of those parts are not up to your personal standards.

Even FHD feels antiquated after seeing the Surface Book and core m MacBook in person. They look like 12 inch phone screens, which is what it SHOULD be.

>>55035289
>Lenovo has a habit of choosing the worst ones in some models
Specifically, in the models that aren't geared towards workstation use and graphical design, and models that share TN panels with these.
In other words if you want a good TN panel in a Thinkpad, you need a 15.6" model.

>>55035496

I wish I could of checked out the resolution before hand but I couldn't. Even if I did, I still would of bought it. You literally cant beat the price to performance ratio and Im only going to use it for school work and browsing with some sporadic movie watching; which it's not really good at.

>anxious for my 1600x900 t420 screen to arrive
>i can finally leave the 1366x768 meme
>all these fags talking about FHD screens
;_:

By the way i bought the Innolux n140fge-la2, anyone here using that screen? did i fuck up?

>>55035562
It's tolerable in small doses. It's almost always more comfortable to be at a desk then bed or the couch so outside of while in the library between classes or on the weekends I'm not even using the display. All comes down to use case. It never made sense to me just how cheap it would be for OEMs to ship with FHD and yet they go with wal-mart 1366 768 to save $7 in manufacturing costs.

>>55035448
Because the previous Yoga machines weren't Thinkpads, but rather low-end consumer devices.
The X1 Yoga is a different story, and from what I can tell it looks like the Yoga 460 is legit as well.

>>55035632
just multiply those $7 by the amount of computers they manufacture. It means millions of savings.

>>55035703
thanks for the response

>>55035715
Also normies dont care so why should they? For every person who gives a shit there are 10 people who dont even know what 1080p means. Literally killing good tech.

>>55033090
>standard interfaces that can do eGPU are mPCIe, Expresscard, and Thunderbolt 3

It doesn't have any of those, but it does have NGFF input for the wireless card.

Now, apparently you can purchase an eGPU setup with NGFF adapter here

>http://www.banggood.com/NGFF-Version-V8_0-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-Video-Card-Dock-p-1009978.html?cur_warehouse=CN

And according to this video (see part3 video where it works), you can actually run this thing successfully off an NGFF port.

>http://www.banggood.com/NGFF-Version-V8_0-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-Video-Card-Dock-p-1009978.html?cur_warehouse=CN

So, I think I've solved my problem here. Anyone have any objections to this?

>>55032077
>>55032415
Are you some RMS autist?

>>55035870
No objections but I am looking forward to the results.

Very surprised that e-gpu has taken this long to start catching on. It has always been one of the best solutions to the laptop gaming "problem".

>>55032184
>I just think it looks tacky
In that case you're not going to find an X220 without at the very least that little rectangle the webcam sits in. Or any Thinkpad at all, for that matter.
Even the very few you might find without a webcam will have the cutout/recessed part in place for it because the Thinklight resides there as well.

>>55035932
Thanks, it'll be some time. I plan on getting my T460p in late July, just in time for college. I'll use my old GTX 760 and buy some power supply. Hopefully it'll all work out then.

>>55034581
First get isopropyl alcohol and cotton swabs. Use them to clean the CPU die and the heatsink.
Sandy and Ivy Bridge cores are rectangular, so putting a line of paste across the die(without reaching the edges) or spreading the paste will work the same.

>inb4 spreading leaves bubbles.
I did some tests with those 2 methods and the resulting temps were THE SAME(78C while running IntelBurnTest and 96C with IBT and FurMark with the iGPU). The only thing that can make the temperatures go higher or lower is the amount you apply. You may need to try several times with different amounts if it's your first repaste until you get acceptable results.

>>55035958
Thanks

I'm gonna look for some video guides before I do anything

>>55035854
Consumer electronics is all about keeping the costs low. FHD IPS displays, DIMM slots instead of soldered RAM and expandability options are unfortunately niche markets.

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poorfag here, got a T41 in a trade recently, threw W2000 on that bitch and now I'm comfy af.

Is it worth trying to upgrade the CPU and RAM in this?

>>55035956
Why that model?

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>>55036066
Well for starters, I wanted a Thinkpad for the amazing keyboard (I know, liking the post x20 keyboard, heresy and all). I specifically want the T460p because I like having the horsepower of a quad-core processor in a 14 inch frame under 5 pounds. I know the lid is made of mediocre plastic and yes the processor can get hot, but I like the design overall, even with the funky 72whr battery sticking out the back.

>It's cool

>>55035958
>without reaching the edges
Actually, for optimal results you'll want to use a non-conductive paste and have it spread to just over the edges of the die. For a die without a headspreader, it's best to make sure you cover the whole thing, including the corners.

What's up guys? Just got a T410, but am having an issue with the memory. I'm thinking that my Thinkpad isn't able to handle the 12800 RAM that I installed, so I was wondering... Is there a way to downclock the RAM to be 8500 compatible? Thanks in advance.

>>55036156
The machine should downclock on it's own if there's an incompatibility, something has gotta be up with the ram if you're running into issues.

>>55036197
Do you think it could be a voltage mismatch issue?

>>55036234
DDR3 voltage is pretty standard, unless you've put low voltage DDR3L ram in it. Try running it with each a single stick of ram from each of your sticks, maybe one is messed up.

>>55036273
Yeah, just put the previous stick in and had no issues with booting... Must be a faulty stick.

>>55036133
My concern about applying paste from edge to edge is the amount of paste that could be spilling of the die.
When I was finding the correct amount of paste I noticed that, and leaving a small margin between the paste and the edges avoided spilling while keeping a maximum coverage. I'm talking about 2-2.5mm

>>55036304
Good shit. Thinkpad, knew there couldn't be anything wrong with it.

>>55036329
It is perfectly fine for non-conductive paste to spill off the die, as long as it doesn't spill all the way off the CPU's PCB onto the motherboard.
In fact, that's the optimal way to do it. You want 100% coverage on the die, not 95%. Just don't use a conductive paste.

>>55036337
That'll teach me to not buy PNY RAM again. haha

>>55027133
got a FHD panel in mine

>>55036273
I understood DDR3L DIMMs can return to 1.5V mode if the board does not support 1.35V memory or if there's a mismatch between two modules. After all, running RAM at 1.35V demands better quality chips than 1.5V.

just bought a yoga 460. Did i fuck up?

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Hmm... I wonder what the issue could be here...

Any ideas? I'm pretty new to the meme I just bought.

>>55036522
For starters you're not installing a Linux distro. I recommend Fedora.

But really, I'd guess either your installer is broken or it's missing a driver for something that it can't fetch because you're installing without it being connected to the internet.

>>55036568
I install win7 without internet on all my machine old and new, gotta be something fucked up on his image, he needs to redownload a windows 7 x64 untouched iso and put it on usb.

>tfw a t43 sacrificed its hard drive so my shitty TiBook could live.

I was wondering why it had a FRU sticker...

>>55036522
why do you think we all run linux on our thinkpads

>>55036601
Superiority complex?

>>55036611
Linux and Windows user here.
Superiority complex is bullshit. I use Linux on my Thinkpad because it makes my life easier.
Significantly better desktop environments/window managers coupled with a more hassle-free setup makes for a better experience. If you don't intend to play video games or use Adobe software on your Thinkpad, you should try it. Fedora is a very good general use/desktop distribution.

>>55025912
X230 with FHD ips screen mod. Will do the classic keyboard mod too.

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Psyched about getting a refurbished x220 for $230 soon. Is this upgrade list okay?

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>>55025902
I know /g/ hates them, but I absolutely love my E455.
>inb4 shit picture and game

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So I just got my x230 in the mail. I'm really liking it but I'm thinking that I want something a little bigger. The T430 seems like a decent 14' alternative with its i5, intel hd4000, and higher resolution panel. My question is, How will the battery life compare to the X230? Both the 6 and 9 cell versions?

>>55036810
that keyboard looks weird

>>55036840
Correct me if I'm wrong. but the layout is identical to the X230 which I don't dislike.

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>>55036945
It isn't as bad as the newer ones where the trackpad is a piece of garbage, the keyboard doesn't have the same feel and travel and the nipple is nowhere near how it used to be.

>>55036752
Looks fine. That screen is pretty much the same price on Amazon, though.

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>>55036127
Envious that you were able to make up your mind so easily. I have a low end machine that was given to me that I use daily atm. I have so many options that im crippled by them. I could buy a 2500k for my pc, sold my old chip. I could x220 x230 t530 t420 or get a Dell latitude which I like. Or wait till the fall and get something new. A new thonkpad. Build a whole new Zen or kaby lake pc. Get a FX 9800p machine or a Zen book. God fuck

>>55036945
E430, T430, T430s, T530, W530 and X230/230t share the same keyboard FRUs.

>>55036968
Ah, i see what you mean now. To be honest, even in the short amount of time I've been typing on the X230 the keyboard Feelsgoodman. This trackpad does seem a little small however.

>>55037079
>make up your mind so easily

Hahahahahahaha yeah....

>I fought between the t460p and p50 for the last week, obsessed over other thinkpads on notebookcheck, and probably read every single thread posted since february in the thinkpad subreddit.

Take your time, I swear, I'm over the P50. Really. I don't need it. I don't.

My current setup is
AMD Phenom II X4 965 BLACK EDITION
AMD HIS 7850 2GB ICEQ Cooler
8GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 800MHz
ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0

Only gaymes I play at this point are oldschool runescape and san andreas. The thinkpad would sit on my desk and have a second 1080p monitor plugged into it 99% of the time while the rest of the time it would be used for travel or in a car doing ECU tuning bullshit. I don't give a flying fuck about weight or looks. Is a T420 right for me? Should I buy this one and upgrade it later?
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-laptops/oshawa-durham-region/lenovo-thinkpad-t420-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-320mb-special-price/1173073973?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

>>55037468
If you plan to be using an external monitor, the X220 with an IPS panel would probably be better suited to your needs. Supports up to 16GB RAM and mSATA SSDs.

>>55025988
Drinking fountains exist you know

>new i7 2670QM for $122.20
Should i? will it make my T420 melt?

>>55036979
Thanks anon. It's free shipping to SEA hence why I'm using AliExpress

>>55029696
Requesting a x250 version of this nigga

>>55037617
Your nuts will not be happy if you do anything intensive with the T420 on your lap.

>>55037756
It's okay, i fell into the cooling pad meme.

>>55029063
you cant use an mSATA SSD as a bootable drive in thinkpads

is there x220 which could run league of legends without lag?

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>>55037950
What
>>55037922
What

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>>55037922
Stop spreading lies, kike
forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=103109

x220 is so lame, can't even run leauge of legends

>>55038084
Get a T430 4200m, what's the problem?

>>55038114
T420*

>>55037922
My x220 is booting GNU/Linux on a 60gb mSATA SSD right now.

>>55038084
>can't even run leauge of legends
and this is bad how

>>55038139
I think he's making fun of >>55037950

>>55032077
Mine doesn't have one. I kinda wish it did.

Changed my t420 screen with an alienware, looks better but why the hell didn't the resoultion change?

Also how long would it last with an extended baterry?

i have a T42, but it doesn't work anymore, no idea what's damaged

>>55038769
Thanks for sharing

>>55038769
I think we will need more than that to remotely be able to guess what the fuck happened to it.

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fack u lenovo, i hate you.

pic somehow related

>>55038727
because 14" 1920x1080 lvds panels don't exist, idiot

looks like you didn't do enough research in to the alienware panel swap

>>55039167
iktf but with different brands

Is it worth getting a FullHD panel on 13'3 Chinkpad?

Considering buying one, but jews in my pocket are stopping me.

Is it possible to upgrade my thinkpad sl510 from a core2duo t6670 to a core2quad Q9000? You can get the q9000 for like $40 off ebay.

how/where can i buy genuine a backlit x260 keyboard and a genuine 72Wh 6 cell Li-Ion (Type 68++) battery

>>55039262
Or should I get a T9900 instead?

>>55039302
Get a T9900, it'll have great core performance and use 35w of juice.

>>55039463
Alright. Is 35w a lot?

>>55039518
I'm sorry if this sounds like bait, I'm just retarded and have no idea if that's actually a lot of energy for a laptop cpu to use.

>>55036754
what cpu? what os? isnt your laptop getting quite hot in this game?

Anyone else having problems with the BIOS update bootable images?

Both 1.42 and 1.40 seem like the .iso files are empty, when I try to extract it to a USB key it turns up empty, archive managers tell me it's empty too.

What is going on here? Is there a mirror with a werking file?

>>55039800
>>55039800

Nevermind, got it to work.

>>55039518
No, it's not a lot, it's the standard amount a mid to high end cpu should put out.

>>55040259
Oh, alright. Thanks! In that case it's worth dropping the ~40$ for it.

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>>55025912
nipples

Does /tpg/ have any experience with Crucial SSDs? I'm thinking of getting a 500GB MX200 drive and throwing it into my W520 to replace the original Seagate HDD. They seem to be pretty good drives, use MLC memory like the Samsung 850 Pro but cost a hell of a lot less (about $90 savings where I live). I'm just wondering if the Marvell controller is any better or worse than the Samsung MDX, and whether or not it plays nicely with Thinkpads.

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Hello /tpg/, I had a question I was hoping you could help me with.

I bought two used 420 Thinkpads, one for the old man and one for myself. Mine has been in absolute mint condition, I've been running Debian GNOME on it without it slugging at all, it's been really fast. My dad's however...I had to end up installing Debian w/LXDE on his, because Windows, Ubuntu, Mint, and Debian w/GNOME were seemingly too heavy for it. His TP would just freeze up and stall hard, despite the CPU and RAM usage not being that high. Even now, his laptop with LXDE sometimes freezes up for a few seconds when opening the Start Menu.

Since they both have the same specs, what could this be attributed to? Maybe symptoms of imminent Hard Drive failure?

Also, we discovered his left arrow key doesn't work. The other arrow keys do. All of mine work with no issue. How could I diagnose this to make sure it's a hardware thing, and how could I go about fixing it if it is?

I'm kind of saddened that his first TP experience has been this sloppy while mine was so great, with the literal same model

Does anyone have experience with the T430u? Lenovo's manual seems to indicate a fair amount of repairability/upgradability but I heard the screen on them is awful and I'm not sure how easily I could upgrade it.

I need help with my touchpad/trackpoint. Laptop is a x220T

I am dual booting windows and linux. When I'm in Windows all my mouse input devices act normal. I have tried Ubuntu 16.04, Lubuntu 16.04, Xubuntu 16.04, and Debian 8 XFCE for my Linux partition but they all have an erratic mouse that jumps and clicks all over the place when the laptop is plugged into the power adapter.

I've done some googling but everyone suggests getting a better power supply. The issue doesn't show in Windows though, and in Debian it doesn't jump around and click randomly, the cursor just shakes in small back and forth motions erratically but it is still usable unlike in the Ubuntu based distributions.

tl;dr - Does anyone have a suggestion on how to make my touchpad/trackpoint usable in Linux for my x220T?

I found an Old thinkpad z60t without batery and charger
I already got a laptop on fedora and à
pc gaming
Is it worth it to buy batery and charger to put arch linux on it ?

Anyone have a trusted buyer for X201t batteries?

I'm not keen on getting a bootleg that goes full housefire

>>55039167
So glue it back on ?

>>55041759
Just guessing, is it an i7 model and are you using the 90w brick? Because weird things supposedly happened with that back around the release, also on the X220 where the trackpad would go ballistic

>>55040949
My 128GB M4 from 5 years ago still works I guess?

Any news on the T420/T430 WQHD mod? How is the battery life with the FHD mod?

is this shit always $750?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-T420s-T430s-FHD-1080p-upgrade-kit-/231957748733?hash=item3601c25bfd:g:OswAAOSwNSxVezhH

>>55042911

No he has another listing for 75 bucks.

>>55042964
can you link it? i cant find it

>>55043006

It's gone now, I checked last night and it was still there, sorry dude.

>>55043070
fml

>>55025912
T420 hdd caddy here

>>55041759
Get a new genuine power supply is the only solution. Had the same problem on a old laptop. That was the last time I got a third party power supply

>>55042104
guys should I risk a bootleg or go the extra mile for a genuine?

>>55043473
Just get a genuine one..

>>55043473
I've gone both routes in the past. Highly recommend you go with the genuine article.

>>55025902
>Recommended models:
>T420 - 14", normal size
>X220 - 12.5", ultraportable

Has this pasta not been updated since 1999 or why are these bronze age laptops being 'recommended'?

What about sub 5h battery time deserves the term 'ultra portable'?

The recommended models are t450s (removable battery), t460p (also ok) , x1 carbon for ultraportable, t460p if graphics are needed.

>>55043769
Because in terms of performance, the only X series ThinkPad that soundly beat the X220 and X230 is the X260. Blame intel for focusing on power draw and not shit else the last few years.

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>>55043769
Looking at the price-performance ratio on those models it's pretty damn clear that they're good choices..

>>55043769
>sub 5h
My X220 gets 9 hours, could get more like 20 if I had a slice battery.

>recommending the T460p
enjoy burning your balls off

>>55025902
>Because in terms of performance, the only X series ThinkPad that soundly beat the X220 and X230 is the X260. Blame intel for focusing on power draw and not shit else the last few years.

Yeah how stupid of them, now people don't have to carry their charging cables around any more.
Of course if your only application is sitting in your mom's basement watching anime porn, you wouldn't understand..

>>55031100
Dont put in the extreme edition, it costs a fuckton more, has an even higher tdp than the qm processors (40w higher than the stock 2520m) while the 2670qm has a tdp of only 20w more for a lower price

>>55044027
>>55043769
Meant to answer this

How do i get more than 3-4 hours of battery life on my X220 without a massive sheet battery?

Is 16gb Ram worth it? Also, I am using an SSD already, would also getting an msata SSD worth it? I am not really using all the storage but if it is faster, that would be cool.

>>55036968
>keyboard doesn't have the same feel and travel

it has 2.5mm travel

>>55044116
I get 3-4 hours on the flat pack 4-cell. What OS are you using?

>>55044165
Its got the fat battery, and of course I'm using GOAT Windows 7.

>>55044232
Ah, sorry. I'm on Arch.

>>55044232
Install Lenovo Power Manager if you haven't already.

Consider a new battery, sounds like you may need one if you're only getting 4 hours on an X220 with a 9cell. My T420 gets better battery life than that, and that's with the Nvidia card.

>>55044116
>if it is faster
it isn't, not noticeably

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Had to downgrade from my trusted T520 to a T430s.

I assume that my old ultrabay caddy (for my 2nd HD) will not fit in the T430s.

Am I right?

Pic related. 1,2,3 caddy

>>55044437
Yes, you're right. It might have been compatible with a T430, but with the T430s being slimmer it physically won't fit.

how many hours of battery life should I expect with a new 9 cell battery on the t420 and the x220?

>>55045434
My Nvidia/i5 T420 gets around 6 hours, my i5 X220 pulls 9. Expect lower numbers for i7 models.

I want to purchase some nice stickers for my soon to be over-equipped X220.

Post pics of pretty laptop sticker setups.

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Fuck I cant decide if I want to buy a T420 or X220 as a desktop replacement.

>>55045598

why not both?

>>55045598
>desktop replacement
t420
the x220 has a small screen not fit for a desk environment
plus the t420 has that quadro for nice external monitors

>>55045721
This. I regret not buying a T420 and now I'm stuck with a x201

>>55045598
Get a T/W520. The much better screen and cooling are well worth the extra size and weight, which barely matters if it's to be a desktop replacement.

>>55045598
see
>>55045762
if you're not limited to the t420 and x220, there are thinkpads designed as desktop replacements

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Just got this, it's pretty good

>>55045833
How much? What are the specs?

>>55045856
220€, i5-2520m, 4GB RAM

>>55045833
never understood why the x220 gets dents in the palmrest

>>55045915
Not bad. What are you going to do with it?

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JUST

>>55045833
>azerty
Never seen one on a thinkpad before

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First time I've ever touched a Linux distro, and a thinkpad. The screen quality is better than I expected it, and the keyboard fells nice. Hopefully GNU/Linux treats me well too.

>>55045942
Cheap, small and powerful enough for shitposting

>>55045946
Shitposting and dev

>>55046008
What distro is that?
>>55046018
Are you going to put an ssd and what OS?

>>55046052
I don't know, the HDD is fast enough for me but I'll see.
For the distro I think I'm going to install Arch but not sure yet. What do you recommend ?

>>55046110
Debian or openBSD

>>55046052
Bunsenlabs, I don't know how to get the proper ASCII art to display.

>>55046134
And what DE/WM do you recommend?

>>55026157
That is a beautiful fucking display.

Non-s converter kit when??

New thread:
>>55046234

>>55028002
Check Craigslist postings

>>55046217
Never, because the interference problems can't be solved

>>55031950
Cheap, second gen i5 is still decent these days, and it's the last model to use the glorious classic keyboard design

Those are the only reasons, some things like the screen are total shit

>>55040992
Might be a shit hard drive m8