>tfw my gtx 680 runs like shit >tfw it's even worse

>he fell for the nvidia meme

I've never had any problems with the 750m in my laptop. It's the only Nvidia card I own, but still. You're looking at a difference of 3 fps in one game... Not much to complain about.

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>>55002889
>7970 was more than 10% behind the 680 on launch
>now it's more than 10% faster

Hell, even the 7950 is starting to edge out the 680...

>>55002889
I'd say the same about my 770m, except the VRAM making 1 game unplayable... and the heat.

>>55003018
Wow familia. This is just fucked up

>y-you have no proof nvidia gimps its cards faggot

What now Nvidia shills?

>>55003018
AMD's viral marketing is fucking genius. They've turned releasing cards with shitty drivers and only fixing them years later into an advantage for them somehow.

>>55003047
If the gimping is true, why don't people get better performance by rolling back their drivers to an older version?

>>55003060

You make a good point, Sanjeet.

2 housefires have been deposited into your Nvidia® GeForce™ Experience™ account.

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>>55003060
Or maybe they just get better performance enhancements with drivers because they don't need a new arch every year.

You really think nvidia cares about anything before maxwell? And now that pascal is out maxwell will turn out the same.

>AMD's older cards are able to keep pace because they're essentially the same architecture from the HD 7000 series to the present. It's really just rebadges constantly - with some improvements, particularly among the top-tier - so that's why a card like the HD 7970 is still somewhat relevant. There is also something to be said about AMD having weak DX11 support around GCN's launch but improving over time.

That's all good for the consumer, as their older cards seemingly gain "free" performance, but the truth is that their older cards are just reclaiming performance that already existed and they continue to benefit from optimizations because their HD 7970 is - at its core - a 280X, a 380X, etc.

>>55003060
If AMD has great marketing then why is Nvidia selling more cards?

>>55003087
Nvidia's CEO is Asian, the head of the Radeon department is Indian, and I'm supposed to be the Indian here?

>>55003095
So let me get this straight, you'd prefer Nvidia released rebrands for years without significant performance gains?

>>55003103
Because capitalism is a meritocracy :^)

>>55003096
Actually 380x is a newer iteration of gcn.
HD7970=384bit 3gb.
380x = 256bit 4gb + compression.

>>55003113
What makes you think they're all rebrands? They're new GPUs based on the same architecture.

By your logic, the gtx780 ti is a rebrand of the gtx680.

>>55003103
Because their target audience is poorfags who never buy new shit.

>>55003134
>By your logic, the gtx780 ti is a rebrand of the gtx680.
Oh wow, technical illiteracy from a tripfag. Who would have guessed.

>>55003018
>Hell, even the 7950 is starting to edge out the 680...

Because they are testing cards with factory overclocks against reference nvidia cards with artificially limited boost clocks and the like.

Cards like 680, 770, etc will easily beat their overclocked AMD counterparts with a mild overclock of their own.

>>55003149
It's pretty much true, since they were based on Kepler
But newer GCN iterations are substantially different, even the diagrams presented show so, and the IPC gains are massive, the newest GCN isn't that similar to the first GCN generation
Though by your logic Nvidia has been rehashing since Fermi

>>55003134
>What makes you think they're all rebrands? They're new GPUs based on the same architecture.

we know AMD didn't respin because nothing in the GPUs proper have been updated, stuff like VCE/UVD didn't get updated despite hawaii and fiji both having updated versions. ditto with stuff like trueaudio.

>>55003236
IPC gains are not massive, they're relatively small.Thats why the 36CU RX 480 with its aggressive clocks isn't totally dominating a 44CU R9 390X at stock.

Arch changes in Polaris are focused on power per op.

>>55003169
All of the cards in that benchmark are reference cards, AMD sold a OC'd version of the 7950 called Boos
The 7970 was sold as Ghz edition, the reference 7970, it's not a partner OC card
The regular 7950 still beats the reference 680Nvidia's anyways

>>55003236
>and the IPC gains are massive,

are you trolling? hawaii and fiji are just bigger dies, the architectural differences between 1.0/1.1/1.2 are minimal at best.

>>55003249
HD7970 GHZ got rebranded to 280x, then 380x was a new gpu. 290x got refreshed into a 390x with more vram and a factory overclock.

They do a lot of rebranding, but is nvidia so different?

They build a GPU and cut it down or overclock it into a bunch of cards.

GK104 was used in gtx680,670,660ti,760,770 for example.

>>55003298
>but is nvidia so different?
You seem to believe so, admitting Nvidia uses a new architecture every year here>>55003095

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>>55003274
>All of the cards in that benchmark are reference cards, AMD sold a OC'd version of the 7950 called Boos

it's not reference if it's OCed.

>The regular 7950 still beats the reference 680Nvidia's anyways

the reference 7950 is slower than the 580, it doesn't even get close to the 680's performance.

>>55003284
There is no such thing as GCN 1.X, and the differences from one generation to another are numerous. They just don't show directly in gaymen benchmarks.

http://amd-dev.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/media/2013/07/AMD_Southern_Islands_Instruction_Set_Architecture1.pdf
http://amd-dev.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/media/2013/07/AMD_Sea_Islands_Instruction_Set_Architecture1.pdf
http://amd-dev.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/media/2013/07/AMD_GCN3_Instruction_Set_Architecture.pdf

From Southern Islands to Volcanic Islands/3rd Gen GCN there is a huge disparity in supported instructions and the way the GPU internally translates certain ops for power efficiency.

>>55003328
I meant in terms of reusing the same chips.

Nice reading comprehension though.

>>55003271
You can't explain the performance gain in the RX480 purely from the increased clock, the clock increase isn't even aggressive at all, aren't you thinking of Pascal?
>Arch changes in Polaris are focused on power per op.
That's true, but they still got an increase in IPC
>>55003331
>it's not reference if it's OCed.
That was the reference card designed by AMD, not a partner card
>the reference 7950 is slower than the 580, it doesn't even get close to the 680's performance.
That's because you're using benchmarks made with old ass drivers
>>55003334
This, they barely share ISA's, it's retarded to think they're rehashes

>>55003387
>performance gain in the RX480
We know fuck all about the 480's performance though.

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>>55003387
No, I'm not thinking of Pascal.
The highest stock clocks for any prior GCN card touched 1050mhz. Polaris 10 clocks up to 1200mhz, possibly even higher for whatever binning Apple will receive.

>>55003334
>There is no such thing as GCN 1.X,

except for the 3 pdfs you just linked that show there are three revisions of GCN, hence 1.0/1.1/1.2. AMD doesn't need to directly call it 1.0/1.1/1.2, it's just the commonly accepted nomenclature.

>That was the reference card designed by AMD, not a partner card

it wasn't 'designed' at all. it's just different core and memory clock stored in the BIOS, no different than a factory OCed aftermarket card.

>That's because you're using benchmarks made with old ass drivers

no, because the benchmark wasn't disingenuously comparing an OCed card to a reference card.

>>55003464
It isn't accepted nomenclature. Its something one jackass author at Anandtech made up when Bonarie launched because he couldn't be helped to actually fact check.
There is no such thing as GCN 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, or 1.X. Stop regurgitating this retarded bullshit.

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>>55003500
Then what would you call the different iterations of GCN? 1.2, 1.0, 1.1 sounds simple and easy. That's why it stuck.

>>55003527
You could try actually using their proper name, exactly as you would for Nvidia's Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell, Pascal, and everything else.

The first iteration of GCN is Southern Islands, abbreviated SI
The second iteration is Sea Islands, abbreviated CI
The third iteration is Volcanic Islands, abbreviated VI, also transitionally called 3rd Gen GCN
The fourth iteration is 4th Gen GCN

>>55003113
That's why Nvidia is a meritocracy, because their shady tactic, right Jen Hsun Huang

>>55003561
Fourth is Polaris

>>55003584
Polaris islands*

Pi

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>>55003584
>>55003597

you mean poolaris

>>55003597
Arctic Islands was the name prior to switching to stellar names.

Just like Cypress was RV870

>>55003584
>>55003597
No, you shit eating morons.
Polaris is not the name of the new iteration of GCN, it is the code name for the two new 14nm dies specifically. Polaris and Vega GPUs are all 4th Gen GCN.

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>>55003637

>>55002746
>>tfw my gtx 680 runs like shit
Mine runs just fine

>>55003778
can you blame him for not gettin a joke?

/g/ is full of people who think they know what is up, but are really just following meme technology

/thread

>>55002746
you are a fucking baby. i still use a gtx470 and it works fine

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>>55003113
>he doesn't know that AMD's CEO is chinese.

>>55004102
>Born in Taiwan
>Taiwanese parents
>immigrated into America when she was 3
>has lived in America for the last 47 years
>"Chinese"

>>55004164
Shes more chinese than nvidia ceo

>>55004184
Both are equally "chinese"

>>55004164
>>55004219

"Asians" (excluding Russians, Indians and Arabs) are all chinks, therefore chinese.

>>55003810
Yes mine plays YouTube videos just fine too.

>>55004164

>Burgers and their one drop rule

>>55003889
Congratulations. You want an award for that?

>>55005907
I haven't noticed any drops with my Nvidia card, but sure, an anonymous forum post sure is a reliable source of information.

>>55002746

I've been using a 670 since release

Feels good not being a graphics snob

>>55005962
s a m e

gonna get a 480 though.

>>55006140
Why would you want a gtx480?

>>55005962
I've been using a 4870 since release

Feels good not being a graphics snob

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>>55005922
>anonymous forum post
>the name is there

>>55006232
Without his last name. There's no way to find out that guys real identity.

>>55006362
It's still an identity.

>>55006434
Nigger do you know where the term anonymous comes from? It was an identity people used to hide their real identity.

>>55006155
maybe he wants to cook using his PC

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>>55003331
>the reference 7950 is slower than the 580, it doesn't even get close to the 680's performance.


nigga you retarded

680/670/7970/7950 were literally within 5fps of each other, 580 was slower than a 660 lol

7970/7950 pulled ahead over time due to drivers improving performance and having a decent vram size.

On release the reference 7970 smashed the 580 by something like 40%, 7950 at the same clocks as the 7970 was only 2-3% slower

>>55004318
I'm an Iranian and I find this Chink !

>>55007087
Salam, chesh tang hasti?