Why would someone encrypt their drives when they can just physically

>>54933275
>in a secure location where no sane human would look
Because it would smell like balls.

64gb microsd cards are now something like $20.

you can literally hide those anywhere

>>54933328
they have dogs that sniff out that stuff now

>>54933328
Can I hide underneath my pile of secrets and shame

>>54933275
I hid my HDD in my computer, it's the last place they'll think to look

>>54933328
Yeah, something like that. Use polyfill to put them into a piece of drywall and they'd never be found

>>54933275
The idea is that even if it is found, there is still a layer of security protecting the data. Security is like onions and ogres, and encryption is just one more layer.

>>54933328
>>54933397
>never be found
And the data will corrupt since flash memory leaks electrons.

Why would someone bother removing and hiding drives when they can just keep them where they are and encrypt them?

>>>54933275 (OP)
>in a secure location where no sane human would look
Because it will damage my HDDs

>>54933476

takes next to no effort to remove and hide a microsd card as opposed to leaving a drive for someone to decrypt or force you to give up the password

an analogy would be someone finding the body in a murder case vs not finding the body at all

>>54933521
>takes next to no effort to remove and hide a microsd card
And if they want it they'll find it, they've got dogs trained to sniff out microSD cards.

>>54933275

Convenience. If it's somewhere people *really* wouldn't look, it's not easy to find/get to. There's also encryption that looks like empty drives/can be decrypted in two ways (one way I get my stuff, another it's ponies).

Beyond that, it's kind of my answer to people who say "but terrorism!" I have nothing to hide, but don't want to be searched unless it's at the point they are trying to beat that out of me desu.

I have a battery powered remote disk array in a security deposit box at a bank in another country created with false credentials that I ssh to, piggybacking off a nearby mcdonalds wifi network. It has a dead mans switch to refuse access if I am ever caught and a bomb to explode the box if the box is ever opened manually

>hide your data
Because that's fucking stupid and inconvenient. Why would I hide my HDD in the crawlspace when I can just encrypt it and use it normally every day?

>>54933455
So it has an automatic self destruct mechanism if you are imprisoned and can't reach it? Sounds great!

>>54933275
Why would it make a difference if someone beats encryption keys out of you vs beating out of you the location of your hidden storage medium.

>>54933521
You mention the analogy of never finding a body to begin with. Akin to the metadata of a missing person such as skipping work, no contact with family and other such triggers, the metadata of your network consumption to construct such storage in the first place is enough to know you're hiding something. If you do anything over the public internet it will be inspected and if you are of interest rest assured they've already cracked everything they need to know. If they haven't they'll have enough to warrant cracking it out of you.

>>54933537
I have never heard of that.

>>54933620
Mostly because it's made-up bullshit.

Just give up and kill yourselves, pedos

>>54933620
Okay, to be clear, there are police departments claiming they have dogs that can sniff out "SD cards, USB thumbdrives, iPods/Phones" etc.

Even if you're willing to believe that a dog can be trained to sniff out electronics, how much value do you think this ability would have against someone actually trying to hide a tiny piece of flash memory from a police dog? Most people's houses must absolutely fucking reek of "electronics" from every conceivable angle, as we're living in 2016. (Insert oliver_currentyear.jpg here.)

The handful of news articles I've read on the matter have law enforcement agencies claiming that not only can Fido sniff small electronics, he can even differentiate between them. He can find you an iPod and ONLY an iPod, for example. (Theirs, not mine.)

lol, ok

>>54933904

meh, maybe corroded electrodes? a storage card anywhere there's even a little bit of moisture will have a touch of corrosion on it's electrodes, but that's a stretch even for a sniffer dog.

Dab of silicone on a microSD card would completely stop that, though.

>>54933609

>implying an interrogator is going to be able to take me into the woods to show him where it is

>implying I won't be dead by the time they get me there, either trying to escape or fearing the repercussions of them finding my data

Whole different level, kiddo.

>>54934020
If I just took a tiny ziplock bag, dropped my flash memory in it, and crammed it into a jar of peanut butter sitting in one of my kitchen cabinets I imagine Fido could search my house for the next three weeks and never come close to finding it. And that's just off the top of my head. A "short notice" solution.

I live in northern Indiana, so the whole "super special megadogs that can sniff out thumbtacks hidden on the moon" was a big deal for a while here. One of these dogs (and apparently there are only three of them in the country) was used to search the home of Jared Fogel, the former Subway spokesman who was convicted on child porn charges. He was an Indianapolis resident, so of course the entire state had to hear about it for months.

They never actually said what, if anything, the dog managed to sniff out that the police might have missed. They only discussed what the dog had done previously during training. Stuff like finding an SD card that had been hidden in a wine rack, for example.

>>54934141
yeah but shit like that is a dog smelling people on an SD card in a wine rack.

Jared got narc'd, one of his friends went undercover to get info on his crimes, and reported to the police until they had enough evidence to arrest him.

>>54934191
Then what value would this ability actually have? Everything I own smells like "people" if that's the case.

>>54934207

searching bedroom with a dog is good for drugs.
searching for people and things people have handled is good in a forest or field, but not ina bedroom. Everything is a bedroom is handled. No point.

Dogs that can sniff out things like an SD card ina wine rack can smell it because the SD card has been held by a person for a period of time recently, and the wine rack hasn't been touched as much as that SD card.

>>54933275
>hiding your HDDs in a secure location where no sane human would look?
my hdd is in my computer.

Police dogs are a meme. Cops make a subtle signal to the dog so it starts barking like it found something. Uh-oh, guess we're gonna have to rip your place apart.

>>54934241
Yeah, but the claims the police are making suggest that the dog is actually picking up the odors of the materials used in electronics. (Rubber, plastic, silicone, gold, etc.)

I don't have an issue with this, and it seems more than feasible that a dog could do it, but then we're back to the "people" problem. I guarantee my home reeks of "electronics materials" about as much as it does "people" and I imagine that most of the modern world would be the same. You simply aren't going to find it all amidst all the "noise" in the air, and you're certainly not going to find the one piece of it I'm deliberately trying to hide.

Would the acid in your stomach destroy a MicroSD card? If you had shit that, for one reason or another, you REALLY didn't want people to find, and you had to get rid of it for realsies, couldn't you just down the SD card and let the stomach acid do its thing?

Then again, I don't know how bad MicroSD card materials are for you, but probably pretty bad.

>>54934386

they have x-ray vision surgical dogs that can see electronics in your body

>>54933275
Sniffer dogs, forget to hide it, hiding place isnt very good, someone watches you hide it, etc.
Much easier to watch someone hide an external HDD than it is to watch their exact password being typed into a keyboard.


Plus, having to dig up your hard drive every time you want to access it is annoying compared to typing in a 20 character password.

>>54934386
No, it wouldn't. Worse, there's a more than fair chance that the acid might not even damage the data on the card. If they suspect/know you swallowed it, you'll be shitting in front of someone until they retrieve it and verify if anything on it is recoverable.

>>54933521
Why not both?

>>54933553
How do you power it?

>>54934422
Ahk. I was just curious, since stomach acid is supposed to be, you know, pretty acidic.

Could just snap it in half, I guess. Or smash it with a hammer.

Could you just chuck it in the microwave when you hear the knock and the door and hope it's done in like 30 seconds?

>>54934459
You could chance doing any of those things. Or you could have your shit in order, encrypted, and well-hidden beforehand. Or even better, just not use removable media to store sensitive materials.

Seems like your PC is the best place for sensitive things, and the best protection would be the plausible deniability provided by hidden, encrypted partitions from software like TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt.

>>54934503
I honestly don't encrypt my shit because I'm a basic bitch and can't be bothered learned about the various ways to do it for Wangblows.

There's probably a better-than-evens chance that it'll come back to bite me in the ass, though.

>>54934530
Well, I guess that depends on what you're protecting, if anything. If you really don't have anything you want to keep private, fuck it. Don't encrypt anything.

>>54934530
Whys that? What do you have on your computer that's 'sensitive'?

>>54934544
>>54934551
I don't really have anything on my computer that I would consider sensitive. I mean, I have torrented programs and whatnot, but I don't think the Australian feds are planning to drop the hammer anytime soon.

I guess I've just never bothered because I don't believe I have anything that's considered private enough to warrant encrypting.

>>54934410

Don't be retarded.

Hiding a microsd card is as difficult as hiding a penny.

If you're unable to find a smart way to hide a penny then you have a lot more to worry about than the cops finding your porn stash.

A mircoSD doesn't last long when your average Bic lighter is doing the deleting.

>>54933904
What's far more common is that people try to hide things inside walls and ceilings and stuff. Then all the feds have to do is use a thermal imaging camera to quickly look around your place and look at any walls or ceilings that have unusual cold spots.

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Nobody cares.

>>54935621
Crimes against children probably is mostly made up of parents hitting their kids and other non-computer oriented stuff.