AMD Cuts All GPU Prices

Nvidiots lose again!

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>tfw you bought a 390 two months ago

I knew I was gonna regret not waiting for thinksgiving price drops

>>51537167
just pulled the trigger on an r9 390 for my gf's build. gonna see how it stacks against my 970

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>>51537167
Too little too late.

When are we getting Fury-Xs with non reference coolers?

Poorfags just got Poorer LOL

>based fury x is now £40 cheaper than a 980ti
Definitely not going with a 980ti now, thankyou AMD

>>51537342
>Fury X
>when regular Fury has 96% of its performance

I don't care what brand, who the fuck wants a cheap CLC on their GPU?

>No price cut on 380x
Who is going o buy a $230 380x now when you can get a 390 for $260?

>>51537167
Won what?

>>51537372
People who don't have $30 and/or don't need more performance or want lower power consumption.

>>51537167
Wonder what's driving this.

They've gained back marked share from Nvidia lately, so I don't think sales have been too bad. Although they didn't gain back much, so in a way they are.

1: They got a shit ton of stock they need to clear before Arctic Islands hits
2: They noticed a change in the tide and go all-in to gain market share back
3: ?

>>51537372
Why would they slash the price on a GPU they released a week ago? 380X is a top card, you just need to move the power limit slider up in CCC. I can't believe they fucked that up.

>>51537374
AMD is now the top choice at all price points. Crimson is outstanding. Nvidia objectively doesn't have an angle of attack on AMD now. Even with their overclocking figured in, AMD cards have better price/performance ratios.

>>51537282
~$500 for a 980ti is fucking great.

>>51537483
>AMD is now the top choice at all price points. Crimson is outstanding. Nvidia objectively doesn't have an angle of attack on AMD now. Even with their overclocking figured in, AMD cards have better price/performance ratios.

B-but muh efficiency...

Price cuts are always great but I live in Finland so I will never EVER feel the impacts of this shit.

R9 390 costs 409 euros here.

980 Ti costs 1000 euros.

>>51537522
mistä vitusta sä niitä osia ostat?
980 ti ~750e
r9 390 ~370e

>>51537511
I'm sorry but more than 95% of the power used by your GPU will turn into heat.
not even nivea hair producs can change this

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>>51537545

>>51537483
>implying nvidia can't drop prices if needed to make things all square again

Why are amdrones so stupid about everything? Even the most basic economics.

I really am starting to think they're all 12 year olds.

>>51537167
Exciting news!

This begs the question: will Nvidia follow suite or bank on their marketing department?

Time will tell.

>>51537559
sooka blyat

>>51537511
>Fury Nano

>>51537331
>thinking that spending more money on a same/worse product makes you superior
>LOL
>>>/9gag/

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>>51537559
kek

>>51537167
>being poor
>products for poor by poor
>winning
?????

>>51537331
Why are people trying to paint the consumer as something 'evil' and 'cheap'? Like saying 'you are poor' if you like price cuts. It's literally PRO-CONSUMER choice from AMD

>>51537594
is Hardwarium reliable their site looks too sketchy 4 me breh

>>51537613
i have no experiences buying from them go ask murobbs.

>>51537331
PC poorfag gtfo
iMac master race reporting in

Man this is excellent timing. I need to upgrade my PC and I was wondering about switching to Nvidia but I need to have something affordable.

Is the R9 380x good enough? I don't want to play FO4 at ultra settings, high or even medium at 60fps will do.

>>51537702
My 290 can handle ultra flawlessly so you'll be okay running it at least high.

Is the 2GB Asus 380 a good upgrade for the price? (140USD post rebate) I've got a 7750

>>51537781
Nice.

Which processor do you have?

>>51537792
8320 non OC,so not even a powerfull cpu .

>>51537702
My R9 270x 4GB ran it perfectly at auto-settings, most of them where high-ultra settings.
I have an i7 3770.

>>51537511
So you're happy now that AMD further cements its reputation as a poorfag's card?

>>51537702
380x is kind of pointless at the moment.
390 is much faster for only $30 more
380 is 90% as fast for $60 less

Not sure what you mean by 'won'.
Has making a fury X suddenly become much cheaper for AMD?
Doubtful.

More likely is that fury X cards just aren't selling and they need to cut the price to even break even.

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Oh shit, price drops are hitting the uk.

MSI 390 was £270 a couple of hours ago.

>>51537702
The 380X is great. It's a little better than the 960, and costs a little more.
Fallout 4 isn't a game where 60fps is easy at all, because it's coded like ass.
Like 980Tis can't really get 60fps in fallout 4.

But the 380X will do 40-60 pretty easily at medium.

>>51537818
The cheapest 390 I can find is 330€. That's much more expensive even.

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>>51537331
Goddamn nvidijew

>>51537565
They already did you salami.
>$600 for a 980 Ti

>>51537821
Chips do become cheaper to make the longer they are in production. There also are economies of scale, but you wouldn't understand the concept.

>>51537853
wait a few days for prices to adjust in Europe.

>>51537547
doesn't all of it turn into heat...? the light from the leds and sound from the fans would be negligible no?

>>51537902
Yep, I'll have to wait for mid december anyways.

>>51537826

>scan

Seriously though i'd prefer more than 10 bongs off, a 20 or 30 bong drop would basically invalidate Nvidia's entire range.

>>51537562
But nvidia is a bunch of Jews, they'll never do it. Shekels are more important

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>>51537781
mfw my 390 and 8320 constantly get 15 fps in the downtown area

I wish I knew why

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picked up a sapphire vapor-x 290 new for £180 in the sales just before the 300 series was release
>tfw

>>51537949

Its the shadows - even if you have godrays turned off in the .ini (the launcheri s bugged and applies it wrong). Shadows are KILLING performance even on intel cpus.

>>51537938
There's no need because of the sheer volume the Nvidia cards move. Retailers are giving more leeway on pricing and might even reduce the prices just to get the people to order, hoping they add some normal price items to the cart.

Nobody wants AMD cards that's why they never go on sale and sit on the shelf. Retailers in turn stop ordering inventory forcing AMD to drop the price.

>>51537815
700 EU for a fucking videocard is by no means anything a "poorfag" could afford.

>>51537972
Just like skyrim! Nice to see they didn't even try to address any of the bugs in the engine!

>>51538044
Millions of poorfags buy $700 iPhones yearly. $700 is not a lot if you have a job.

>>51537826
hopefully they will come as fast as the fucking refugees to germany as well

>>51537815
>Be pro-consumer driving prices down.
>b-b-but poorfag le poor xDddd

Enjoy paying 400 to 300 euros for the ability to overclock the nvidia card bit more than the comparable AMD card.

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>>51537679
>mac
>superior to anything

>>51538012
Pretty much this.

AMD = garbage no one wants

nVidia = premium, top quality products everyone wants (except the poorfag anti consumer neckbeard 'rebels' on /g/)

>>51537167
And now we wait for the price cut to trickle through to mainland Europe.

I only pay half tax this month so hopefully the prices will drop by Tuesday.

>>51537282
But nvidia drones hate competition.

I would have bought 2 fury x, but no hdmi 2.0 was a deal breaker, and frankly inexcusable at that price point

>>51538012
>>51538076

>time to upgrade GPU as getting 4K monitor
>wait for 8GB 970/980
>doesn't arrive
>390X filled the gap

Making unbiased purchases is a wonderful feeling.

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Any good?

>>51537853
>>51538166
I've read it's UK & US only - not sure if real.

>>51537936
What's wrong with scan? Any other suppliers you'd recommend?

>>51538239
No dvi was the immediate deal breaker for me. I didn't even bother looking at the performance.

I feel they lost a lot of sales without the dvi. All the best gaming monitors made between 2010~2014 were dvi. Only people that used dp at the time were 60hz budget brand users.

They loss their target audience with the fury x. Nobody is going to buy a new card and a new monitor when they can buy a card that supports their old monitors. Even if they are going to buy a new monitor and card gsync is more enticing anyways because money is obviously no concern.

>>51537372
People who want a card that uses literally half the power while still being capable of 1080p.

>>51538363
Are you serious? DVI and HDMI need to die already, DP can do all those thing and more.

At this point, DVI and VGA are legacy adapters, and HDMI is primarily found on TVs. Every good display made in the past 5 years has DP.

Plus, Freesync is much more interesting than G-Sync, where you need to worry that your 200$ extra feature won't work in three years, because Nvidia decides to drop it.

>>51537818
And that 10% is the exact amount needed to stop you running ultra at 1080.
The 380X is perfectly positioned, being the cheapest card capable of maxing out 1080p @ 60fps in modern AAA games.

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>>51537167

>>51538426
That's the reason why the Fury x is selling so bad and why the price is dropping. The market disagrees with the decision and is fixing itself.

Gsync is much better than freesync simply because it can switch between frame synchronization or ulmb.

>>51537972
What's the fix, then?

>>51538559
Throwing the AMD card in the trash and buying an Nvidia alternative.

>>51538559
Shadows to medium. The difference between medium and ultra is not that high.

>>51537916
fans rotate anon, the sound is just a side effect
and yes its negligible but not a 100% obv

>AMD dropping prices now
>after nvidia dropped their prices almost two weeks ago
top jej
A 980Ti is still the same price as a Fury X, but has better overclocking potential, better support in all current titles, and has much better resale value.

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>>51537167
What graphics card should I buy to replace my 6950? I'm looking for something more efficient and quieter, performance isn't very important but similar or better performance is desired. MY budget is <200$.

>>51538559
A Fury.
Brute force your way through everything.

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>>51538649
Better efficiency too.

It's just better at everything. It's a tier above the Fury X.

>>51538649
It also needs drivers every week and hasn't had a performance driver for a good time while AMD's performance drivers started putting it above its performance even with the smaller VRAM which is a pretty noticeable performance hit on 1440p+

>>51538655
380X with the voltage dropped as low as the stock clocks will allow.

>>51538689
Love how AMD users try to spin regular driver updates as bad.

You can't find this shit anywhere else I tell you.

My body is ready for AMD
The R9 380 4GB is around $180, but the R9 290 is down to $200.
Or should I say fuck it and go GTX 960

>>51538261
>making unbiased purchases
>not being a corporate shill
Why are you on /g/, anon-senpai?

>>51538261
>tfw had to go and get 980Ti because according to reviews and overclock net and various other places Fury X simply couldn't match it in overclocking

I feel like shit after givin nvidia money..

>>51538726
>GTX 960
Is the only gpu that supports HEVC decoding/encoding. Not even the $1000 Titan X can do it.

>>51538166
Any good shops to check out in EU? I'm waiting as well but these goddamn Americans get god tier deals everytime

>>51537167
amd; now making house fires cheaper!

>>51537547
All energy in any system eventually becomes heat anon, it's called enthalpy.

>>51538764
Why's that?

>>51538777
*entropy, forgive my retardedness

>>51538777
Can I use this information to my advantage when building a case? How? I should be able to reuse the energy for sure?

>>51538782
It's newer and better. Maxwell perfected.

>>51537483
It's exactly as you stated.
AMD wants to aggressively take their (financial) losses now to build back reputation and sales.

They also want to clear stock and move units to make room for next year - so they don't have another massive overstock fiasco which led to the rebrand of rebrands.

Let's hope these attractive price drops see their market share go up 5-10% after the christmas season.

>>51538804
Insulate your case, your PSU will start to suck in the hot air and turn it back into power.

>>51538719
>regular driver updates
You mean regular game hacks.

>>51538834
Coming from the group that has to turn down tessellation and apply ghetto fixed that's real fucking rich.

Nvidia - The way it's meant to be played.

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my 260x is still all I need

>>51538862
Why are you defending nVidia's tessalation craze? That shit barely adds to games anyways.

if AMD manages to make high end card with overclocking as good as nvidia cards then they win my heart.

When will it happen bros?

>>51538726
R9 290 is comparable to the GTX 970, but is priced similarly to a GTX 960

>>51538862
At least AMD lets you turn the tessellation down, so you're not stuck with a Shillworks gimped heap of shit ruining your performance all in the name of ruining AMDs performance even worse.
You're a fucking retard if you think this bullshit only hurts AMD.

>>51538862
Yeah because you need 64x tessellation on a 960 or 700 series.

Yeah because 64x tessellation doesn't cripple even the 980.

Yeah because you can even see the difference between 64x and 16x.

>>51538862
How many more shill posts do you need to make until NVidia gives you that precious Titan X for free?

>>51537167
Nvidiots on suicide watch.

>40 to 10$ reduced prices
WOOOW LE NVIDIA FINISHED XDELELELELE

>>51538880
I love the thought of every time an AMD user goes to ccc to turn down the tessellation they get angry at Nvidia.

It's like paying to have your wife get fucked by some nig and having to clean the cum up afterwards.

>>51538893
Even a 580 has more tessellation power than the 390x lol.

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>tfw just bought my 270X for only $150

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>>51538880
>>51538893
>>51538902
>>51538908
Found what triggers amdrones

>>51538719
You talk like Nvidias driver arn't dogshit

>>51538987
I own 980ti brah.

i just hate nvidia.

Will they drop the price of the 980 Ti Hybrid? If they drop it down to like $650 or $675 I'd but it instantly.

>>51538954
>>51538987
>Willingly let a company insert their penor into your anoo
It's like you're actually morons who's forgotten that all shitworks games run pathetically on nvidia hardware too.

>>51539019
They were $630 recently in America

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>>51538954
As opposed to Nvidia, which gives you no option whatsoever.

>>51538987
>wasonlypretendingtoberetarded.jpg

>>51537351
Yeah but do I really fucking care desu? Like do I really need those fucking savings my friend?

>>51539029
When? I have been checking Newegg and Amazon every day for the past two weeks.

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>>51539047

https://jet.com/product/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-Graphic-Card-114-GHz-Core-123-GHz-Boost/

It's sold by Newegg. You can email them later to get the free game.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1878901

>>51537851
Lol wut? I run FO4 on a 670 with Ultra settings. Only setting I downed was Shadows to High and AntiAstropic or whatever to x8.

Get 50-60 fps most of the time. At worse it deeps to 30fps.

Either I have some sort of magic card or you guys are all full of shit

I'll eventually get a coop job and have the ability to pay for a proper monopoly Intel/Nvidia rig.
But for now, this sale is nice.

>>51537167
Damn the quality of trolling went downhill in these topics since there is no valid argument to purchase a jewvidia gpu anymore.

Full rationalisation mode on.

>>51539126
Nice I could get it fir $645. But reviews say this site is kinda sketchy.

>>51538687
>performance per watt
why did these become an existence...

>>51539224
Nah the site is legit. It's owned by the guy who used to own soap.com/diapers.com before he sold the company to Amazon.

Just waive the return, if you have issues they'll let you return it for free anyways. If anything you can always RMA with EVGA, they'll give you a free shipping label if it's within 30 days.

What kind of retard pays $500 for a fucking gpu?

>>51539275
Mad poorfag spotted.

>>51539187
I made choice based on overclock potential between Fury X v.s 980 Ti.

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I welcome these price cuts and am entirely butthurt of pulling the trigger last month. Also,
>Fury at $500
Still too expensive, it needs to be $450. Look at the cheapest new 980 on newegg, fuck.

>mfw just bought a 980 for $350

Feels good to The Way It's Meant To Be Played™

>>51539283
I could buy one if I wanted to, I just don't see any reason to pay $500 for something that I only use to play games. It's called being an adult.

>>51539406
>tfw spent 1774 euros for 2x Titan X.

>>51539406
Yeah because the major demographic of this $30 billion industry aren't adults.

Maybe if you weren't so separated from reality you wouldn't be poor.

>>51539441
Manchildren need to go back to >>>/v/

>>51539568
I can smell the jelly from here damn son. If you did not care about this shit you would not have even replied.

>>51539585
>he thinks I'm jealous of him being able to kill pixels on his screen in ultra high definition
You'll grow up one day and think about the countless hours you killed in front of the screen and how you have nothing to show for all that time spent.

>>51539648
>still replying
still jelly

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>>51537226
>tfw bought a 390 two hours ago

JUST

>>51537826
that's because of scan's black friday sales m8, don't think it has anything to do with AMD price drops.

>>51537826
That's a lot of VAT. How do you yuropoors cope?

>>51539921
by bragging about our free healthcare even though it's not free, has lower cancer survival rates than America and isn't even contributed to by sales tax.

>>51539946
Poor yuropoors.

So do these price cuts make AMD graphics not look like shit in comparison to nvidia or...

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>>51540031
>nvidia poor thinks his hardware is actualy good
top kek see how nvidia loses to amd on a game which is not paid by nvidia and doesnt have jewworks and retarded amount of useless tesslation
T O P K E K
O
P
K
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nvidia shill

>>51540097
but for the other 90% of games...

>Meanwhile in Canada

Fucking nano is 900 dollary doos.

should i pull the trigger on this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150729

>>51540206
Revert back to Pound Sterling like the good little British Colony that you are. Then you'll have a currency worth something.

>>51539921
Mostly we just move on.

Not having to pay tens of thousands a year for education and healthcare really brings down the overall cost of living, so that 19% VAT doesn't even matter.

>>51540245
That's what I have, I play all sorts of games and get 60FPS high/max @ 1440p

I'd recommend it.

>>51540206
You have no one to blame but yourselves for having such a weak currency.

>>51538719
Drivers need to strike a golden point, both nvidia and AMD are far from this point.

AMD have driver releases few and far between, but quite often push out a "beta" driver. These drivers often include numerous optimisations and fixes. The trouble being is just how often these are released. This does of course mean there has been plenty of time to properly test them and fine tune them further.

nVidia on the other hand like to push out drivers as often as the sun rises. And it's not exactly all that good for the customer in the end. While yes, they get some early fixes for the latest AAA titles, what they also get, is something that has not been thoroughly tested. As we have seen of late, nvidia do not care if a driver kills hardware, or simply makes it so the game it provides fixes for refuses to launch, or even crashes regularly. Then, every month or so, a driver will come along which fixes problems caused by previous releases, and provides a handful of optimisations to AAA titles released since the functional driver update.

>But nvidia still has driver updates for my GTX480!
nVidia bundle their drivers together so that all their GPUs get "updated" with each driver release, but all that happens is a reinstall of the current driver. Ask yourself when the last time the 780ti got a performance increase from a driver. Yet alone something as aged as a 480.

>TLDR
Both AMD and nVidia are shit with drivers.
But atleast AMD haven't killed hardware with their drivers.

>>51540479
I want my day one optimization, but that should come natively with the game

Each AAA release should not have its own drivers.

Vulkan and DX12 will save us from the shitty drivers.

>>51540206
You think your currency is worthless now?
Wait until the mass migrant acceptance is approved by your PM.

Should I be looking to upgrade my A10-6700 or my 2GB video card?
Mostly heavy gaming here not sure what's slowing me down the most

>>51540629
Which video card.

And what speed is your RAM.

These are important to know, but the answer by default is just get the most powerful thing you can that will work in dual graphics with your APU. Which I believe should be a 270x.

I have a 750Ti right now. What's the best upgrade: a 390x or a 970? I can't spend too much.

>>51540642
Radeon HD 7870
Pretty sure I'm at 1866 8GB RAM
Also the 390x has crossfire support
Kinda out of the loop rn with what's new
Was considering the 390x since I already have a 800W ps

>>51537167
currytech click bait

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>>51540673
390. Multi monitor power consumption will hurt.
970 is cheaper than pic related and still includes free games that you can sell, so look out for that too.
390x is nice and all, but the price premium isn't really worth it.

>>51540479
>nVidia bundle their drivers together so that all their GPUs get "updated" with each driver release, but all that happens is a reinstall of the current driver

No. Game ready drivers have then tested on older cards and it provides performance increases.

Nvidia is years ahead of AMD in terms of drivers. Everybody knows that. There's no denying it. That's why they held a dedicated conference a few days ago making a massive fuss about new drivers. Like fucking seriously, a fucking press event about drivers. They are literally admitting their drivers are shit and they're working on improving jt, but blind fanboys like you deny it every step of the way.

>>51537483
>380X is a top card, you just need to move the power limit slider up in CCC

explain pls

>>51540747
thats why the 7970 is now on the same level as a 780ti

based nvidia drivers

>>51537167
I wish they could cut the power cost my half. I heard from people that the new cards are really good at OpenCL, better than CUDA in many ways making me really want one.

I just can't imagine leaving my PC rendering something for 12 hours with a card using 300w. Would that just be using an insane amount of power and burn out the card really quickly or what?

Where did you buy from?

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>>51540790
If you want to talk about old shit start with their announcement of officially abandoning their 5000/6000 series cards released in 2011.

Meanwhile a 480 is still as fast as 7850 because Nvidia has a commitment to long term support and refuses to ditch customers after taking their money.

>>51540867
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9815/amd-moves-pre-gcn-gpus-to-legacy

Read the comments. All those AMD users left feeling helpless.

You bet your ass they're buying an Nvidia card this black friday.

>>51540747
>Everybody knows that. There's no denying it.
So in 4 years we can expect AMD to wipe EDID on laptop Monitors?
We can expect AMD to start killing off GPUs?


>but blind fanboys like you deny it every step of the way.
The irony.
nVidia has shit drivers.
AMD has shit drivers.
It's the flip of the coin of who has the worse, and that coin gets flipped quite regularly at this point.

But AMD have not killed GPUs with drivers.

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Is it worth it to upgrade from a GTX 60 to a 390 or even to a Fury right now? Or, should I wait for the next batch of cards, which are supposed to be significant improves to the current crop of cards?

>>51540722
If the 390x has dual graphics support then go right ahead. If anything just removing the graphics bottleneck provided by the 7870 (As amazing a GPU as it is, it is aged at this point, but still going strong in my friend's rig), then you'll see a notable increase in performance anyway.

The 6700 won't hold you back in terms of CPU performance. At best you're only going to make up 10 frames from spending $500 on a new CPU. So it's really not worth it.

AMD is dying and we all should feel sad about it
a.- Because you liked AMD
b.- Because intel and nVidia won't have real competition and will monopolize the market and keep the prices high

>>51540922
Thanks. I'm into heavy gaming (I make mods for skyrim and prob soon FO4 too)
Basically just want a rig that will stand up to FO4 with a custom pixel shader mod

Does the fury x still have the coil whine issue?

>>51540893
>Pre-GCN
Yes, I wonder why AMD don't want to develop drivers for what will soon be 4 different architectures.

Then ofcourse there's just how many people are left with those GPUs. All they're good for now is powering a second monitor for an office machine, for which you don't need optimisations for the latest AAA titles.

>>51540895
>But AMD have not killed GPUs with drivers.
Why do you keep repeating this like it's important? I didn't address it because it's fucking retarded and it happened over five years ago. Nobody is going to STOP buying Nvidia because of this. I know you think otherwise but it's getting real fucking annoying to hear you spazzing out like some retarded animal saying this all the time.

You know full well Nvidia have better drivers than AMD that's why you avoid the present to discuss the past and the future instead.

>>51540917
GTX 670, I meant.

>>51539275
dont console plebs spend nearly that much on thier latest fisher price consoles? Id rather be upgrading THE BEAST for total domination in computing aspects

>>51540983
Is anything running slow for you? If not, then no.
Prices aren't going to go up you know.
Though put your 670 up on CL for $250. If someone bites, free upgrade.

>>51540867

hahahahahahahahahha

first of all.

whql doesnt mean shit.

second of all, Nvidia actually gimps their old hardware with every driver release.

you have it all fucking backwards, and who gives a shit about 480/7850.

the fact that 7970 started out as slower than a 780ti and is now faster just proves that amd drivers are epic.

now those cards are still relevant, i know because i have two 280x and they run everything with ease.

>>51540964
>Why do you keep repeating this like it's important?
Why do you think it's not important?
How could killing your customer's GPU through a failure to test your driver, not be important?

You want to argue who has the worse drivers, and yet you fail to acknowledge how bad nVidia's have been.


I have been more than fair in stating both the advantages and disadvantages of both AMD and nVidia's approach on releasing drivers. And honestly, if nVidia hadn't have killed my 680 with their shit, then I would probably be running a 780ti right now.

Having the odd artifact is one thing. And not entirely something to steer you away from a manufacturer, but killing hardware most certainly is.

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>being an amd poorfag

>>51540962
>4 different architectures.

...No.

R700 was abandoned in 2010 with the release of R800. Those were the 4xxx GPUs released in 2008.

R800 variants are the 5870/6970, with some variants releasing released mid 2011. Those are what AMD officially abandoned a few days ago.

So no, it's not four different architectures, but one.


How do I know this?

Because I own a 4850 and a 5850 and they've become paperweights because AMD doesn't want to support one generation old GPUs.

>>51540917
I would wait or get a second 670. I have the same graphics card and it's starting to show it's age. My 670 is unable to run all my displays. If I can't get a $210 970 this black friday I am going to get a second 670 for around $150.

>>51540867
Nvidia hasn't supported the 480 since 2009 dude.

>>51541144
You're exactly right because the 480 wasn't released until mid 2010.

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>>51537282
This is likely the cheapest 980 ti out there atm.

>>51541133
>Because I own a 4850 and a 5850 and they've become paperweights because AMD doesn't want to support one generation old GPUs.
Typical Nvidiafag FUD.
Not getting driver updates don't make your cards stop working, you retard. They will still function normally as they always have, they just won't get optimizations that give a few extra % performance in new releases.

>>51540867
It's easy to support old shit when the core of your architecture hasn't changed since 2006.

The only reason any of their chips get a performance boost is because they haven't actually changed the hardware behind their chips in almost a decade. Anything that isn't their latest generation of chips is already in legacy.
http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html

AMD, on the other hand, has had several different architectures come through, with vastly different core designs. VLIW 5, VLIW 4, R700.

>>51541133
>one generation old GPUs
Yeah no. 5000 series is at least 4 generations old. GCN is AMD's first long-term core architecture. They won't be abandoning it anytime soon, and they need to get rid of their old code to reduce the size of their drivers and overhead as a result.

I'd expect this move to reduce their drivers by 100-200MB and also maybe give a couple % performance increase on its own.

>>51541133
>R800 variants are the 5870/6970
confirmed for having no clue what you're talking about.
there's no R800, you fucking idiot. starting with the 5000 series AMD moved to actual codenames instead of R-numbers for chips. 5000 was evergreen (names of trees, like cypress and juniper) and 6000 series was northern islands (like cayman and barts).

>>51541397
>with vastly different core designs. VLIW 5, VLIW 4, R700
the R700 series was VLIW5. the R600 too. the only difference was minor revisions for new shader models (R600 was DX10, R700 was DX10.1, Evergreen was DX11)

>>51540867
Nice strawman. 480 was always as fast as a 7850
Meanwhile second gen Kepler (780/780ti) used to be considerably faster than competing Hawaii chips. These days the 780 can barely stay ahead of the 7970.
First gen Kepler (680/770) is doing even worse.

>>51541397
>and they need to get rid of their old code to reduce the size of their drivers and overhead as a result.

so release a separate drivers for old cards

oh fuckin shit i LITERALLY bought a 380x LITERALLY YESTERDAY.

>>51541483
Why? They don't have the manpower to curate and improve them.
All you would be getting is the same drivers over and over and that would make people even more irritated because "you're wasting money on useless drivers!"

>>51541527
Go to whoever you bought it from and ask for your money back, then buy it at the reduced price.

>>51537167
When do the price cuts happen? I haven't seen any shift in their prices yet

>>51540592
WAITING EVOLVED

>>51541555
>They don't have the manpower to curate and improve them.
How is that my problem?

>All you would be getting is the same drivers over and over and that would make people even more irritated because "you're wasting money on useless drivers!"

Do bug fixes in case new programs or games glitches out

>>51541679
>How is that my problem?
You're the one making unreasonable demands.

>Do bug fixes in case new programs or games glitches out
Nvidia doesn't even do this for older cards.

>>51541705
>You're the one making unreasonable demands.
Because I want support for my product?

>Nvidia doesn't even do this for older cards.
Prove it

>>51540964
>it happened over five years ago.
It happened several times. NVIDIA has killed more than their fair share of hardware and the most recent case is certainly fresher than five years old.

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Should I buy the 390x or the 390 now?

>>51541842
At least Nvidia doesn't do it intentionally to one generation old hardware.

>>51541739
you want support for a 4+ year old product in the tech industry.
you ain't gonna get it.

>Prove it
how about you prove that they do?
Proving a positive is far easier, shouldn't take you more than a second.

>>51541859
This is sarcasm, right? 320.18 disagrees with you if it isn't.

>>51541868
intel and nvidia does it

>how about you prove that they do?
because fermi is getting dx12

Is the R9 390 worth it or should I save more?

Coming from 7850 2GB.

I play

>High end emulators
>Japanese ports
>WRPGs
>Literally nothing else

>>51541949
for 1440p gaymen yes

>>51541934
>intel and nvidia does it
source?

>because fermi is getting dx12
That isn't a bugfix, and still remains to be proven true.

>>51541934
The same way Maxwell support ASYNC?

>>51541934
>intel
Not him but I don't think you should use them as an example of proper software support.

They struggle to produce anything that isn't awful for *current* gen stuff.

>>51541966
1080p, though I may get a 1440p monitor later.

>>51542040
It is definitely more than enough for 1080p gayming.

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>oh this is nice
>look at them
>PCI 3
>my motherboard only supports up to PCI 2

>>51542064
PCIe is backwards and forwards compatible.

Also no, it won't bottleneck you.
No, really it won't.

>>51542064
TIME TO FUTUREPROOF YOUR MOTHERBOARD [spoiler]next year when Pascal comes lol[/spoiler]

>>51542003
>source?
they're still releasing drivers for old cards

>That isn't a bugfix, and still remains to be proven true.

yes it is

>>51542113
>they're still releasing drivers for old cards
which != bugfixes for old cards.
They can release drivers that support older cards because the codebase for their GPUs barely changes between generations because the cores barely change between generations.

>yes it is
How is it a bugfix? They had no Dx12 support ever planned.
Also, they have yet to even get any Dx12 support.

>>51537313
Never

>>51542059
lel even the 7850 is enough for 1080p hell the 6870 is more than enough.

get a second 7850 if you think you absolutely need more performance.

would be way cheaper and way better performance than anything out today.

>>51542213
Well Xenia and Citra are making strides, I wanna be ready for them.

>>51538076
>AMD= top quality products that are priced competitively
>Nvidia=crap that only sells because of their marketing

FTFY

>>51542203
>They can release drivers that support older cards because the codebase for their GPUs barely changes between generations because the cores barely change between generations.

I don't care

I gave you money so support my product


>How is it a bugfix? They had no Dx12 support ever planned.

thats the best part. the same generation but one card gets killed and the other gets dx12.

anything is better than official confirmation of death

nvidia is still officially supportings cards as old as a decade old. if a new game comes out that crashes they can release a driver that will fix it on all officially supported products. that's called a bug fix.

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>>51542213
I have a 6870 and it runs like shit on 1080p unless i use low-medium settings.

>get a second 7850

Yes, buy more hardware for ~half the price of a better card that will stop receiving drivers in a year.

>>51542113
>zero performance increases ingame with drivers
>drivers proven to break cards
>is such a hard shillerfaag that you will defend a company that releases firmware designed to break cards

nvidya is absolute dogshit for the entire market for a plethora of reasons.

>buying out phsyx and forcing them not to allow support on AMD gpus even though they're more than capable
>copying freesync just to charge extra on their shit version of it
>releasing le meme card that performs worse than 1gb cards from ten years before because of 3.5gb+1gb of shit
>has literally never created anything of value for the computer industry
the list goes on and on.. nvidia is worse than intel, and intel is absolute dogshit for the consumers and the market as a whole.

>>51540519
Blame the game devs on that one. If they did their job properly, there'd be no NEED for game-specific optimizations for drivers.

>>51542395
>>buying out phsyx and forcing them not to allow support on AMD gpus even though they're more than capable

Physx runs fastest on CUDA which AMD doesn't support.

Nvidia recently licensed CUDA to AMD but AMD can only run it via software emulation due to hardware differences

Regardless they bought it so it's theirs. You don't call your neighbors a nigger because they won't let you drive their new car.

>>copying freesync just to charge extra on their shit version of it

Gsync released two years before freesync arrived and it cost extra because actual hardware differences such as strobing supported backlight and precision fpga controlled synching

So, what are the odds the GTX 950 gets a price drop?

>>51541859
Dropping support is entirely different from actually, physically destroying the hardware, retard.

What's the best 390 manufacturer with two fans? Sapphire's 390 is too big for my case

>>51542319
gcn is going to recieve updates for ages..
and if you think buying hardware at half the price, yet double the current performance is a dumb idea..

when compared to spending twice as much for maybe 30% increase in performance...

i mean i could tell you were a lying shillfag just by the fact that you're lying about the 6870 (still runs everything fine at 1080p, so long as it's not a shitty un optimized glitchefest of a game) being shit.. but hey i got nothing better to do but tell retarded shillfags they're retarded shillfags.

>>51542549
Kek

>It's not the card i swear it's the game

sure thing, from someone who actually has to deal with using it on a daily basis i think i know more than some poorfag that thinks its acceptable.

>>51542475
>he doesn't play games which aren't fucked into the nvidya meme
you never play the latest battlefields?
AMD GPUs are more than capable at doing the same dogshit that physx provides. even the creators of physx were pissed at nvidya for being such cocksuckers (because they too are gamers and don't want to be locked into buying a shitty companies hardware just to see their work in action while playing their games)

>You don't call your neighbors a nigger because they won't let you drive their new car.
is my neighbours stole the streetsigns, sorry i mean BOUGHT the streetsigns. which were made for everyone yet kept them in their garage, yeah i would certainly call them niggers.

>gsynx released two years before freesync
but that's not true anon.

>>51542623
Stop feeding the troll you muppet.

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>>51542623
>you never play the latest battlefields?
nvidia is faster in those too

>is my neighbours stole the streetsigns, sorry i mean BOUGHT the streetsigns. which were made for everyone yet kept them in their garage, yeah i would certainly call them niggers.

A proprietary api is not a public entity. Ageia was sold to the highest bidder, which was Nvidia.

>but that's not true anon.
Except it is. You can't prove me wrong with honor and will try to nigger your way out of it.

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>>51542613
>being so poor you stay with something you deem to be shit
i'm running two monitors and 1080p, not to mention my old as fuck phenom II.. runs battlefront 3 fine just fine..

>you think shitty unoptimized games like the witcher and cryshit are anything but poorly coded worthless games
toppest kek... P.S i run cryshit 2 on this baby, and it still runs fine. just fine.

>>51542756
Sure maybe if you think low settings and sub 60 fps is fine.

>nvidiots have nothing to criticise about
>start calling everyone poor

how fucking stupid do you have to be?

>>51542852
Only rich people can afford AMD. They cost more and have more issues. Think of all the time you'll be troubleshooting and looking for fixes just to play a video game. Some middle class guy can't afford to spend hours doing that. It's a luxury only rich people have.

if only I didn't live in a third world shithole I would actually notice the prices :^)

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>>51542892

>>51542765
For a 5 year old card that cost $180 brand new that's exactly what you would expect.

Don't blame your shitty old card on bad drivers. It's just a shitty old card that's considerably less powerful than current consoles.

>>51542765
>ultra settings@1080p
just turn down the stupid motion blur and lighting because it's a poorly coded mess. god you're retarded.

>>51542695
>shitposting a stupid graph no one will ever believe
anon pls, why must you shill so hard?
P.S a two year old AMD gpu is on the top of that list LOL

>>51538363
are you smoking something?
display port to DVI adapters are cheap as fuck

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>>51543055

>P.S a two year old AMD gpu is on the top of that list LOL

The 295x2 is the only good dual gpu ever made. Even today it is still generally the fastest single card ever made (until the fury x2 at least).

Remember the Titan Z? Even the most die hard Nvidia fans "suddenly" forget that one.

>>51543178
>tfw you have G-Sync monitor but want to get fucking FUry X2 but need Freesync monitor for that
fugg...

>>51543261

Given Intel is supporting freesync (not sure if any of their products right now support it) g-sync is going to die a painful death as Intel's enormous jewish bulk means panel manufacturers will start implementing it.

>>51537949
go to nexus look for optimised textures (bit better looking, much smaller, Bethesda went full retard on file size for that shitty muddy textures) if that doesn't help there are performance mods that'll keep you around above 40 at worst in downtown

>Two R9 Fury X cards in CrossfireX demonstrated a significant lead in average and/or minimum FPS in 6 out of 7 tested games against two GTX Titan X cards in SLI

gee why doesn't /g/ never tell that AMD shitstomps Nvidia in higher than 1080 resolutions?

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>>51543314

/g/ is afraid of the truth.

It would be amusing if the fury x2 actually has higher base clocks because it (could) come with a 240mm radiator.

>Fury X2 is coming out end of this mont/start of december.
I wish I didn't update to 980Ti.

Fuck.

desu baka senpai

>>51543314
Crossfire > SLi.

I thought this was common knowledge by now.

>>51537613
Good store not as fast as jimms but good still family

What did 295x2 cost at release? It is now around 700 USD from quick look in the Google.

Just want to guestimate the cost in of Fury X2

>>51543341
>Fury X lost by 25 points.
>4% lower score than Titan X.
>Costs about fucking NOTHING compared to Titan X
>This card is not the second and third coming of Jesus somehow
how
on earth

are these not selling

like hot shit?

>>51543597
1500 USD. Don't expect Fury x2 to cost less than double what fury x does.

>>51543657
at four fucking K nonetheless?

What am I missing?

>>51543659
F-U-C-K that will hurt my pocket.

>>51543657
Anyone spending $1000 knows how awful crossfire is.

>>51540097
And then we grab an aftermarket 980ti and overclock it and the Fury X is BTFO even in this one cherrypicked benchmark.

>>51543062
Active adapters cost $100 and induces significant latency.

A potential Fury X buyer needs to not have a good quality 120hz+ monitor beforehand or are willing to settle with their current 60hz monitor OR have enough money for new monitor as well.

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>>51543724
Even a factory OC is already faster. 16% faster.

He conveniently uses an outdated benchmark without a non reference 980 ti even though they're from the same exact site.

>>51543698
Gosh, if crossfire is scaling that well and you think it's bad, how garbage must SLI be?

>>51543657

Those aren't even recent drivers, that picture is a few months old.

>>51538793
Entropy is a measure of disorder. >>51538830
Tried this once but i couldn't set the stick fans to spin inwards so it didn't work. Waiting on my noctua fans and going to try again.

>>51543823
Unfortunately that's what people have to settle for if they want multi gpu. It's the only functioning solution.

>>51543889
Except for the part where Crossfire scales and works better than SLI now, right?
Gosh, what a small world you must live in.

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>>51543889

>sli

>>51543999

Even kyle agrees crossfire is shit.

http://m.hardocp.com/article/2015/09/28/asus_strix_radeon_r9_fury_dc3_crossfire_at_4k_review/11

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>>51544021

Kyle is a butthurt faggot when his own charts show his opinion is contrary to facts.

>>51544046
>replies one minute later
>already got an image ready in anticipation of my reply

Gonna go eat my than thanksgiving dinner

Vulcan fixes crossfire yeah?

No worries then

>>51539036
You can also unlock fury to x iirc

>>51538076
>>51542233
Im sure the truth is soemwhere inbetween. Im looking to upgrade from APU to my first GPU, can i have a non-shill/fanboy summary of the differences between AMD and Nvidia?

like intel CPUs having better siingle core performance and power consumption, while AMD having better multicores and integrated graphics.

I heard something about tesselation but it seems to only affect some specific games, are the other, more substantial differences?

>>51541017
I'd rather get a 380x and hold on to it till its 40 fps or less on medium settings.
Still using my hd 5870, and it's still going strong.

>>51544088
Titan X absolutely fucking BODIED.

How can Nvidiadrones defend their shit?

When Fury X2 is released, how long do you think it will take to get some aftermarket watercool systems for it?

>>51544173
you can't. coil whine is a bitch.

>>51544208
>like intel CPUs having better siingle core performance and power consumption, while AMD having better multicores and integrated graphics.
Sounds like you want it simplified to the point where it no longer has any bearing on reality.

Both companies make great cards, trading blows across multiple price points. There are some clear winners at some price points, at others there are not. Read reviews and look at benchmarks for the games you know *you* want to play, any advice /g/ can give you is going to be simplified fanboy garbage.

>>51544208
Almost all game developers are teaming up with Nvidia to implement special effects on games, those effects might be environmental such as grasses, fog, light, water, or physics. All those effects relies on tessellation.

Because AMD cards have only 1/4 the tessellation power of their Nvidia counterparts they perform worse. AMD have given users to turn down the tessellation with their software reducing the fidelity of the visuals.

Go ahead, pick a random pc title released this year. Chances are it's a gameworks title.

>>51538687
This doesn't include fury x

>>51538726
> but the R9 290 is down to $200.

WHERE
WHERE

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Fuck you faggots for making me second guess my GPU choice every goddamn day you fucking cockmongers deserve a personal level in hell.

>>51541855
390X, the deals drop the X version to near current 390 levels

>>51544309
1-800-Check your eyes

>>51544309
literally right in front of 960

>>51544208
They're entirely different architectures(which also can change radically between generations) and do different things well and sometimes don't do the same things at all(like Nvidia's current cards being unable to do asynchronous shaders except in software and AMD not having CUDA). So there's a LOT of differences and it would be hard to make a good summary of all of them. Nvidia has(usually) better drivers(except when they make drivers that can kill your hardware, which seems to happen every couple years) and (currently) lower power consumption due to maxwell completely ditching double-precision FP performance. AMD has fairly consistently better price/performance across the board and crossfire, when supported, delivers better relative performance than SLi. AMD also often takes a little longer to come up with optimized drivers for new games and you'll have to rely on beta drivers a lot if you want the best performance on the newest games.

AMD on top of their shit right now

i just installed their new Crimson drivers 5 minutes ago and it made my favorite game(path of exile) run 10x smoother. my 6yo 5850 feels like a brand new gpu again

>>51544337
but how are the drivers? not memeing.

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>>51544293

Funny how the ARK DX12 patch was delayed hours before lrease and just after they announced gameswork support huh.

Funny how FO4, FC4, witcher 3, assassin creed, watch_dogs and a few others ran like shit on release. All use gamesworks.

The next test will be just cause 3.

>>51544360
Works great on my 6970 too. Getting 100fps on ultra.

>>51544367
>>51544367
>A fucking Fury X only 5.6% behind a fucking Titan X in 1440p resolution.

Jesus dear god tell me again WHY IS THIS GPU NOT SELLING LIKE HOT FUCKING SHIT

>>51544367
>Funny how FO4, FC4, witcher 3, assassin creed, watch_dogs and a few others ran like shit on release. All use gamesworks.

I played all those games and they all ran flawlessly on my 980 ti.

The only bug I ran into was Fallout 4 because running the game at 130FPS causes the character to be stuck everywhere.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/3s57kd/fallout_4_terminal_glitch/

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>>51544398

Well AMD couldn't meet demand for a while, but primarily "muh nvidia" is the only response /g/ tends to give.

>>51544398
because it doesnt overclock,which apparently is a thing

>>51544424
AHAHAHA TITAN FAGS ON GODDAMN SUICIDE WATCH
>GETTING KEKED BY 600 DOLLAR GPU
HAHAH THIS IS TOO FUCKING FUNNY

>>51544424
I am honestly scratching my head as to why Fury X isn't sold out everywhere lol

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>>51544423

Half of those games have been patched to fuck long before the 980ti was released, the games were broken as fuck upon release.

FO4 even now does not run flawlessly on anything as the game engine stalls massively - its why even the mightiest intel chips are seeing ugly dips because its essentially a hacked version of the positively ancient engine used in...oblivion (or morrowind? I keep forgetting which is the newer game).

>>51544451

Wait until mixing of gpus becomes a thing.

>>51544485
The engine Bethesda uses is built over the engine they used in Morrowind IIRC.

It's ancientware.

It's bloated shit.

It's fixed by modding community which Betheseda tried to monetize.

What an awful company, and shitty game developer.

>>51544364
See
>>51544360
>>51544378

Honestly, I had more problems with Nvidia cards than with AMD cards. The whole AMD drivers suck is so hardwired into everybody now that no matter what you tell them, say to them... they'll refuse to believe you.

Everybody I've build a PC for, save but one who had the Nvidia mentality (so I gave him a 960 because he was a wanker) has loved their cards.

It's a meme. Like religion.

>>51544518
I bought 980TI because of its oc capabilities. Fury X really couldn't overclock in comparison.

Feels bad to support nvidia to be frank.

The day AMD gives me oc capable high end GPU is the day I will gladly shove them money.

or when Fury X2 is released.

If I'm on an A-10 5800k and a GT 640, how badly would I be bottlenecked upgrading to a 380/gtx960 or r9 290?

>>51544485
I pirated them all with no updates and they all ran fine.

I tried playing FC4 on my old 290x crossfire setup but it had black textures everywhere and amd disabled crossfire for it with a driver released a few days later. I felt so excited when they released a new driver thinking it fixes crossfire but they disabled it from how broken it was. It still doesn't work to this day apparently. Ground Zeroes also ran like hot shit.

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>>51544543

>or when Fury X2 is released.

I don't know if this is true or he is trying to be funny, but one would think soon™

>>51544570

Horrifically on the 290, only badly on the 380/960 side.

>>51544485
What the fuck is going on in this picture?

>>51537244
Kek, she's going to leave you for someone who gave her a gpu that actually works.

>>51544543
The Fury X's and 980Ti clock scaling aren't comparable. Just because it's a bigger number doesn't mean it's massively different.

Reviewers don't overclock the Fury X for some strange fucking reason. Going from 1050/500 to 1135/550 gives me a significant percentage boost.

>>51544605

Ashes of singularity hacked together a feature of DX12 that lets you mix and match gpus for multi-card setup. The testing done shows a few configurations and how they worked with the game and drivers at the time.

The picture I didn't save is of 7970+680. If you have the 680 as the lead card performance PLUMMETS into oblivion, but the 7970 as the lead card works fine.

>>51544625

>Reviewers don't overclock the Fury X for some strange fucking reason

Voltage has only recently been unlocked in trixx and on stock volts the fury x has very little headroom.

Someone make new graphics card general this and the actual graphics card general are maxed out.

>>51544771
>>51544796
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NEW

>AMD Cuts All GPU Prices Including R9 Fury X, Fury And Nano – Down To As Low As $569, $499 And $549

Wow, only $500? I definitely need a $500 video card so I can be cool and hip on /g/.

>>51542695
>latest battlefields
>posts battlefield 3

Jesus Christ this has to be bait.

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>>51543657
It's all about marketing.

>>51544021
HardOCP are known nvidia shills.
He stated the fury x was a 980 competitor, not the ti, when he got butthurt about not getting a nano.

>>51545221

FUN FACT: A dude on the [H] forums had a nano as part of a build log and kyle banned him (and nuked the thread) after the drama kyle had over the nano.

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>>51545194
I would love to get my hands on a pair of nanos, but they cost so much here in aus.

>>51545260
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I would not be surprised if this was true. Hardocp just isn't a reliable review site. I wouldn't trust them, especially now after seeing them from the nano fiasco.

>>51545362

It really is true, dude was doing an entirely custom build. Shame it flew under the radar while kyle was chimping out.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1041770894#post1041770894

That was the thread.

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>>51545438
I think 2 or 3 nanos for 4k in crossfire would be neat as fuck.
They're so cute.
Going to need to save up $3500 first though.

I have the screenshots from the ocp chimpout in my laptop at home, might start a thread to remind people how unreliable it is as an unbiased review site.

>>51540097
>dice games working better on amd cards

Nothing to see here folks. Just more AMDelusion.

>>51542695
If I sli my 980, I will get more than 980 ti lightning performance, yes?

>>51541934
>fermi is getting dx12

>DX12_0 tier 1, no DX12_1
>no async compute support whatsoever

Oh, yeah, that's great DX12 support Fermi's getting, anon, 10/10.

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>>51546011
What do you think?

I feel so glad for not buying any GPU this year
I was going to go for Titan meme or 970 SLI