/hpg/ - Headphone General

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first for anime girls youll never fuck

Second for weebs should be burned at the stake.

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second for anime girls youll never hug

>>51437895
4th for having hd600s and not even watching anime withem

Why dafuq do people here watch anime shit?
Just reminds me of hentai shit lol

>>51437910
6th for Fidelio X2 have a better quality to price ratio than the HD600

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>>51437963
haha yea man like were totally smarter than those tards u no lol

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>>51438003
oops wrong image wtf, how did that get on my computer u no wut im sayin mane

Daily reminder Etymotic is ripping you audiophool off.

What is burn in?

>>51438127
your head phones need to be burned in before theyre sounding their best

/hpg/ recommends buying a gtx480 and running crysis to get the fire started. promptly throw your headphones in, and give it 1 or 2 minutes before enjoying musical bliss from another dimension

Is the dt 880 pro bad

>>51438161
Define "bad"

>>51438166
>>>/sci/

>>51438161
Yes. In Beyerdynamics website they mentioned they copied electrostatics in 1980. And they don't have mids. Sennheiser is newer and has mids. HD600.

>>51438241
>Electrostatics don't have mids
HAH! No bass maybe.

>>51437436
HD598s and HD558s don't really need an amp, they just need something to act as an impedance buffer. Frankly, that often means getting a headphone amp as near zero ohm output impedance is almost never found anywhere else with home audio gear. O2 with 1x gain would be great.

>>51438577
A parallel resistor to load works too. EQ takes takes care most practical effects of the division anyway.

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"Swissonic Sub10, Active Studio Subwoofer, Class AB amplifier, Standby function, Woofer: 10” (254mm) glass composite cone, Frequency response: thomann 30Hz-200Hz, Amplifier power: 200W, Signal-to-noise: >100 dB (typical A-weighted), Polarity: Positive signal at + input produces outward LF cone displacement, Input impedance: 20k ohms balanced, 10k ohms unbalanced, Input connectors: Two XLR & two TRS balanced/unbalance input, Output connectors: Two TRS balanced/unbalance thomann output, Variable Lowpass Filter control: 40Hz-180Hz, Polarity switch: 0° or 180°, Indicator: Power on/off/ Standby indicator on front plate, ON (Blue color), Standby (Red Color), Power: 230V~50 Hz, Protection: RF interference, output current limiting, over temperature, turn-on/off transient, subsonic filter, external mains thomann fuse, Cabinet: Vinyl-laminated MDF, Dimension WDH: 320 x 381 x 385 mm, Weight (single unit without packing): 16.7kg"

Is the specs for this subwoofer alright?

>>51438940
>HEADPHONE general

What distro sounds the best and why is it Gentoo

>>51437998
It doesn't. The Fidelio X2's sound quality is that of cheap boomy headphones, not to mention it has a nasty treble peak that's easily audible.

>>51438072
No, they make the most accurate IEMs on the market.

>>51437617
go weeb somewhere else, this isnt fucking /a/. Fucking weebposters

anyone have any experience with Bluetooth earbuds? how do they work? would it be possible at all to make a Bluetooth mod for my se215's? the fucking cord keeps snapping because of the shitty design choice of havino snappable plastic wrapping the cable and reinforcing it with bendable and very snappable thick wire. it wouldn't be a problem if there was no pressure from the bottom of the cable, but because the cable is literally bulletproof it makes it heavy.

>>51438940
Looks okay.

>>51439214
>would it be possible at all to make a Bluetooth mod for my se215's?
You would need to snip the cable down quite a bit, and then attach a Bluetooth receiver to the new plug.

But wait, what is your problem with the SE215 cable?

>>51438127
There's three components to burn-in:
1) Diaphragm burn in, which has nearly no effect, but does exist to a very small degree. It only takes a matter of seconds or minutes to burn in the diaphragm and most good headphones are burned in as a result of being tested in the factory.
2) The consistency of the earpads affects the frequency response of some headphones (especially closed over-ear headphones) but you just have to wear your headphones until it happens
3) "Brain burn in" where you get used to the sound of the headphones and flaws get reduced. Distortion and soundstage are largely unaffected by this. AKA placebo

>>51437617
wtf why are all the /hpg/ OP pics so fucking sexist and objectifying?

ITT: broscience and placebo

MDR-V6 buds where you at?

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>>51439323

Daily reminder that you shouldn't be here if your music files aren't 96 Khz 2500 kbps FLAC

>>51439447
muh ultrasonics
>implying you can hear the difference btween a 192kbps opus file (maybe even about 144) versus ur meme codec

>>51439474
> implying you can't
> muh opus
> muh unused storage

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>>51439353
>bioscience

>>51439532
>>51439532
bro*

fug

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>>51439501
I'm implying exactly that laddeh

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Good afternoon /hpg/, what are you guys up to?

Are HM5 angled earcups placebo?

>>51439609
Buy them and find out for yourself.

>Budget
100-120 dollas

>Location
Europe

>Source
Desktop

>Preferred type of headphone
full sized, closed or open

>Comfort level
comfy

>Preferred music
Electronic music, rock, anything really

>Past headphones

>>51439639
I have them, and my guy tells me they are not placebo, but I want confirms

>>51439609
Will definitely alter the sound in some way so nope, not placebo. However, whatever they claim to do might really not be the same thing in practice.

>>51439639
Nice advice, totally a way to test whether something is just placebo or not: subjective impressions.

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Whoever posted that stabbing webm to the last thread while managing to meme and shitpost at the same time needs to fuck off from these threads to /b/ and /gif/.

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>>51437617
Just got the hyperx cloud 1 for 55€. How bad did I fuck up, /g/?

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I got the nine on my side every time the wheels slide

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Are Sennshills this fucking retarded? When you turn up your super fidelity perfect flatphone you're actually just hearing upper mids drown everything else out. That's why when you hear them they sound so dead, no highs no bass response. Even someone with a V shaped headphone will probably be hearing a more accurate rendition of a headphone, wew lads.

>>51440050
I like the sound of my Fidelio X2

>>51440050
>actually just hearing upper mids drown everything else out

I have a great idea for you anti-fidelity shill!

Since you hate perceptibly neutral and accurate sound so much, slice off your ears.

You will still be able to hear except you won't receive the upper midrange boost that our ears does for us naturally.

Good luck!

>>51437617
>mfw when I bought pic related for £35

>Mfw when they sound exactly the same as my brother DT 770's

The chink meme is real and I love it,piston 3's and KZ ED9's are top tier IEM's also.

>mfw all 3 cost £50 combined

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>>51440295
>pic related

>>51437617
See, here's the thing about pointy headphones: if you fall on your side while wearing them you'll probably die.

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> inb4 enjoy your low fidelity coloured shitty headphone

>>51440359
Enjoy your low fidelity colored shitty headphone

>spelling color with a u

>>51440384
> not checking English basic grammar before posting here

>>51440269
>You will still be able to hear except you won't receive the upper midrange boost that our ears does for us naturally.
There is still a lot of boost left from the ear canal.
In any case, it would have a more limited affect of the perceived tone of the headphone.

>>51440384
> not using the superior British spelling

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hello i am here to funpost too

>>51440269
If our ears already did an upper midrange boost then why would Sennheiser boost it further? They're midcannons, just admit it. You 600 fangays are in such denial.

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>>51440616
Please stop shitposting and read up on diffuse field EQ.

>>51440616
You literally don't understand the very basics of headphone equalization.

Good job on making yourself look like a fool.

>>51440616
>>51440663
>diffuse field EQ
To that end, read here about it.
>https://www.neumann.com/download.php?download=docu0009.PDF

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Reposting from previous thread as there were no answers:

>A question to someone who knows their shit: What is the limiting factor in dynamic range possible with DACs? I know it's around 21bits. Is it the quantization noise, noise and distortion caused by components on the circuitry, power supply related thing or what? Anything that could be done to it or is it already the physical limit possible?

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I bought a pair of iems and I want to replace the shitty fitting rubber shits pic related with custom molded ones. I skimmed through the iem guide and didn't see a section on custom molding. I was wondering if anyone had any experience or a product to suggest. Googled some results found products like decibullz, fuze and even a mix of silicon putties.

Why do CDs sound so much better than Flac on my Fidelio X2?

>>51441227
Whoever encoded your FLAC was a jugghead, that's why.

>>51441227
cause placebo

>>51441257
How do I know if my Flac is bad or good?

>>51440616
they don't really. It's an artifact of the measuring process that needs to be taken into account. That's why you don't look at raw measurements. That's why measurements from really veiled headphones on sbaf look neutral.

>>51441289
With your ears, or encode it yourself.

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>>51439270
You know the part that wraps around the ear? It has a plastic cable over it. It isn't stretchy and will snap. To combat that, Shure added a metal wire to help it hold Its shape. Unfortunately the wire is just as snappable as the plastic, and with enough bending back and forth(when you take them on and off, or more prevalently, when it is getting tugged by my phone or just from the weight of the cable and my head movements) it will snap, and once that snaps it makes the plastic break because it will poke at the area that the wire snapped. Once that breaks, the pressure from the two sides will pull the inner cable apart and snap the wire completely. Here's a pic of what I'm talking about. I want to get rid of the problem by removing the need to have It connected to something that is below my waist.

>>51441227
Three options.

1) CD is a different master
2) Your FLAC is not lossless copy of the original and instead, it's a transcode of possibly multiple lossy encodings before some genius encoded it into FLAC
3) Placebo, expectations bias. Rip the CD bit perfectly, compare the spectrograms and ABX.

>>51441289
No direct way to know for sure. Best would be to get a true original copy to compare but if this is not an option spectrogram and zooming in on the sine wave in an editing software can give you clues. You need to know what to look for and understand it a bit. There are also some programs that can "tell" you whether the file was lossless but those can be deceiving.

>>51441322
>with your ears
What a terrible advice for codecs unless double blinded.

>>51441380
>>51441322
Oh well, at this point I should stop pirating Flac and only buy CD, so I can be 100% sure it's the best quality.

>>51440878
A problem with stating this stuff is that the very best quality AD or DA convertors are at or near the limits of cutting edge measurement tools.

Quantization error is theoretically around 1/2 of LSB, but usually a little higher. That's not the limiting factor here, we are still a couple bits from that.
Thermal noise seems a definite factor here particularly with high frequency error. It isn't necessarily to add dither 24-bit gear because the thermal noise already provides a significant randomized signal at that scale. It increases with frequency, so you can circumvent the noise, but it will be limited to very low frequencies.
There are other considerations, the feedback loop breaks down at higher frequencies, the oversampling factor is limited with higher sampling rate, delta-sigma errors, and so on. We probably have some margin of improvement left for lower frequencies, the bulk of audio, but I'm not an expert.

There are specialized ADCs that operate at extremely low rates (about 7Hz) with accuracy around 140 dB.

>>51441380
Don't compare the spectrogram, perform a difference test.

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I am the cheapest.

Some people yesterday recomended me the X2 for old school, trap and dubstep music.

I were in the store trying them out today and dude...

Holy fucking jesus that incredible sound they have and holy shit i want to them so bad omg omg omg but... but.. there allways a fucking but in headphones you love... but the headphones are not comfortable. The headband is just to loose... The headphones doesnt have any good clamping force and they are to loose which makes my head push up the loose headband and that makes the headphones being under my ear instead of over and around my ear. But fuck that dude.. lol.... They sound so fucking good and thats why.

But whatever... Im going to buy them next week.

>>51441289
Compare it against the AccurateRip database with CUETools

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>all those kids suddenly complaining about fidelio x2 being too big

>>51441622
Leave them their brain-cancer-inducing radio-like HD 600

>>51441035
What IEM?

>>51441357
I don't know of very short cables with MMCX connectors. The less wire solution would be as I said before, short cable and bluetooth dongle.
I suppose you also want a new cable, plenty of those things are sold from China.

>>51441538
You can make a little mod to increase the tension of the headband: just tie a rubber band between the rods and make it pass above the headband.

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>>51441440
Thank you based anon. I like you. I think I see you in every thread helping with more technical stuff and it's really appreciated.

>>51441538
You might want to consider HD 650s. Warm tilt, overall considerably more neutral than X2s but will probably sound pretty amazing for you too. They clamp, have a really tight fit and are still really comfy. Audition them if you can.

>>51441938
why would he want a boring neutral headphone?

>>51441810
where did you find the information on the type of connector that the se215 uses? i cannot find any information in the product specs on their website. i know that it's 3.5mm, obviously, but are you sure its MMCX on the other end?

Price range $500 CAD limit
Noise-cancellation is the biggest priority here. I've got a cheap room in Vancouver, but the walls are so thin and i'm right above the furnace. Can barely sleep at night, especially if a roommate is having a party.
I'd like a mic and remote with iphone compatibility, especially for answering calls.
The main uses will be for wearing while asleep, though i'd also like to use it for gaming and on the go.

I've been looking at Bose, but I never see it discussed here, so maybe it's just a meme headphone.

>>51441872
Can you explain a bit better :D I really want to do this if it wortks.

>>51441938
Bruh, Do they have that bass ?

>>51442077
They have bass, more than a neutral response would have, but not as much as the X2.

>>51439645
pls respond

>>51442077
See >>51427945

>>51441810
a pair of bluetooth ones I got for half price at a local store as an impulse buy and found that I liked them besides the shitty rubber things not fitting. It came with 2 different sized ones and none of them fit my ears very well. LG tone pro hbs-700.

>>51442118
SHP9500

Would anyone recommend Grado headphones as a set to wear back and forth to work and things everyday? I really like the looks of them.

>>51442136
No. Shit comfort, open and sounds like ass.

>>51441873
Do you even bother with your HD650/HE-500 anymore

Opinions on the ath anc9? Coming from m50, listen to ASMR, ambient and dubstep so I want muh bass

>>51442136
Nobody would suggest a Grado headphone.

>>51442129
>SHP9500
thanks, but i dont think i can buy these here
any alternatives?

>>51442167
NVX XPT100

>>51442143
>>51442158
Really?? Damn, I have read so many great reviews on the Sr80es. Now I'm disappointed I loved the look of them.

>>51442182
>NVX XPT100
welp, also unavailable here

>>51442207
what about Sony MDR-7506, are they any good? or audio technica ath-m40x?

>>51442243
They're both studio headphones: they're made for audio engineers and musicians to analyze music and not for a fun "consumer" listening. Other than that, they're good and well built headphones.

>>51442280
ah so are they boring? the sony headphones look really comfy, ill see if i can get them shipped from germany

objectively best noise cancelling headphones?

>>51442310
What part of yurop do you live in? Because all European amazons have the SHP9500 and the others headphones (in Europe the NVX are called Brainwavz HM5).

>>51442370
Czech, amazon still didnt arrive here and german one doesn't ship them here

>>51442146
They are both very good but no, not when I'm at home. I'm just using the HD 800s with EQ or speakers. I can get very similar results with the other two using EQ but I like the comfort of the HD 800s the best. It's also the best built headphone and sounds remarkably open in a way. That's "headstage" I guess.

It's not really about "bothering". Heck, I like the stock response of HE-500 more than the HD 800 or HD 650 but once I EQ, the HD 800 has the edge in every area. HE-500 has terrible comfort and annoying cable. I can't use it for much longer than half an hour. HD 650 is really good all around imo. Not much bad to say about it other than the stock response is too warm. It also sounds really "in your head" and significantly less open than the other two. Not necessarily a bad thing but I like the open feel of the Hifimans and HD 800 more.

HD 800 with EQ is my "end game". I'm completely satisfied with this setup and I haven't been even considering other headphones for home use after I got them. I'll probably sell the HE-500s and keep the HD 650s as a secondary pair to take with me to places or use with laptop/tablet(yes they work pretty well from it).

>>51442204
They are really not absolute shit if you are thinking of getting the cheapest ones but you could get better comfort and better sound for the price. And they are not a headphone for commute as they are open.

>>51442280
>>51442310
Fun is a retarded concept and a stupid way describe colored sound signature while painting it as something positive. Just like calling neutral sound as "boring" or "lifeless" is retarded which couldn't be further from the truth. Those are good headphones with great fidelity for the price.

>>51442370
>Brainwavz HM5
i can get these for 132 euro here

>100-180$
>CAD
Source
>Mainly my phone, PC when I'm home (maybe an amp eventually)
>Over ear or On ear is fine
>I like the idea of open but would rather not have people in public have to listen to my music with me.
>Comfortable enough to wear back and forth to work everyday
>Variety of music
>Have the original hyperxclouds for gaming and whatnot but have yet to buy a dedicated music listening headphone.

>HD600 for $249
>HD650 for $299
Which?

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>>51442474
neither

About to buy DT-990 Pro + FiiO E10k Olympus 2. A good combination, or is there something better?

>>51442555
K612 would be better.
DT 990 is for comfort+open headphones with bass, not maximum fidelity.

>>51442474
Prob better resale on the HD650 later on

>>51442394
The comfort and fit were great for me but I couldn't stand their signature. I'm hoping this modding effort inspired by the announcement of the S will possibly make them listenable to me, if successful I'll go ahead and grab a pair.

Also interested to see how the S are priced and how they measure. Considering the fact that the HD800 retail for ~$1950 here (with our weak dollar it's more like $1280USD) we might even get a better price on the S than the US do

>>51442069
Shure is pretty well known for their MMCx connector use. It's on their cable accessory list.

>>51441873
Now what could possibly identify me besides my penchant for the technical, giving advice, and actually being in most threads?

Best quality for stereo playback? 24 hit 192 khz?

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I'm looking into earphones and the etymotic MC5 and MK5 fit my budget and my desired tonal balance. They are both the same price currently, which one should i get and why? I plan on using them strictly on the go as I have a good pair of headphones at home already

>>51442765
best quality? 16/44.1.

>>51442570
I will want to use them on my PC (duh), so that would include every genre of music over moves, up to youtube videos. I'm currently using Sennheiser PC151 Headset which is really comfortable to wear (and sounds pretty neutral) so it would be great if one of these would be good in that regard.

>>51442784
Enjoy insane microphonics and shit build quality.

>>51442740
Just that. There is nobody else doing it like you do. The wealth of information of a more technical side which is rarely seen here. If you read through the threads, most explanations are really just describing something in layman's terms without going into detail of the mechanics/math/physics behind it and generally lacking in more in-depth knowledge of audio systems. There might be someone else here too but your way of describing stuff is to the point and pretty thorough as well as technical in a unique way to these threads.

>>51442765
16bit, 44.1kHz

>>51442740
i cant seem to find any MMCx to 3.5mm cables on amazon. am i searching for it wrong, or are there other names for these things?

is there a list of recommended mixers?

Have any of you recabled your headphones? I have a pair that work but the cable is cut. Is it a hard thing to do to recable them?

>>51442847
K612 is closer to neutral than DT 990 which is v-shaped. Both headphones should be more comfortable than PC151 but that's subjective.

>>51442927
It wasn't technically a recable but I did mod my headphones to have a socket for detachable cables. It was basically a similar process though, just soldering some wires onto connections to the driver.

>>51442865
what do you suggest then

>>51442784
http://www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones/mc5.html
http://www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones/mk5.html
>"20 Hz - 15 kHz"
How old are you? If you're still young you'll be missing out on everything above 15 kHz.

>>51442965
>you'll be missing out on everything above 15 kHz.
kek, he's listening to music not a sine sweep

>>51442965
Ety is being honest there. Look at headphone measurements to see how many fail to achieve 15kHz without insane roll off or simply roll off at around 15-16kHz.

>>51442927
I'd say it's simple as hell, but I guess it's all relative. Soldering is simple as hell in general and a really handy skill to have.

>>51443002
The standard ear simulator is only rated to 16kHz. Mk5 has some 20 kHz capability to it, however inaccurate and difficult to verify it may be.

>>51442911
Searching ebay and amazon for MMCX cables doesn't work? Westone uses the same connector now.
I used Lunashops a few times for cables. Worked so far.

>>51442784
MC5 barrel is fat, not so great for fit. MK5 is slimmer.

>>51443105
no, it works, but i'm not getting any short ones that end with a standard mp3 headphone jack. do you think i'd have to do that myself?

>>51442938
I guess I'll try them. Will they do just fine with a FiiO E10k Olympus 2 (does it work with Linux)? I've read that it's kinda picky about dacs.

Audio-Technica ATH-M40x
or
Sony MDR7506

Almost the same price, wondering what would be better for an everyday carry.

>>51443214
>edc
in-ears. headphones in public make you look like a fedora-tipping redditor

>>51443239
But I'm not so who cares. Not a big fan of in ears...

>>51443201
Yes, they will work with E10K and no, they're not picky with DACs.

>>51443293
people who aren't socially inept

>>51443320
>wearing headphones has anything to do with this

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>>51443348
>being delusional

>>51443370
smug fuckin bastard if I ever saw one.

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>>51443389
needs more acne and reeking of virginity tbhfam

>>51443370
>Caring what dipshits on a bus think of you...

But by all means, try hard to impress people with your superior social knowledge. Maybe you'll make a friend one day.

>>51443424
Also that dude is wearing like 2k+ on his head alone. U just mad senpai.

>>51443424
if you at least made a little effort to not disgust everyone around you, maybe people would talk to you and dare i say, befriend you

>>51443443
I wouldn't want to talk to someone who cared about some headphones.

>>51443442
this really sums up the poorfag state of /g/

are you really that impressed because a kid is wearing your monthly paycheck on his head

>>51443464
Not really, it was more of a joke than anything. Guess its hard to convey sarcasm over text.

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Wearing full-size ANC headphones in public is perfectly acceptable really, as is the more fashion-oriented but more crappy stuff like Beats and such.

I keep seing people wearing HD558 or 598 in public constantly though. I can't fathom what made them think that that's a good idea.

>>51443187
Like I said, I don't know of any cables that are short. You may have to do something yourself.
Noble Audio's wireless BTS came bundled with a special short cable, but it uses the 2 pin connector (also known the Westone connector) instead of MMCX. I don't know if any MMCX to 2-pin adapters exist.

guys, what would you think if someone in the streets ask about your headphones, maybe if he can hear how good they sound

>>51443511
cant even find any long ones, let alone short. well, i guess i'll just forget that whole idea since it seems that there are only a few that exist, and they are all over 100 dollars. replacements for my shires would cost like 40 bucks, and if i were to put bluetooth on it i would need to cut apart the cord and mod it manually. also the battery life would be like 7 days thats no bueno for someone who isnt home for up to 4 days at a time.

>tfw failing abx between flac and 96kbps opus

m-maybe i just lost focus

>>51442474
Depends on your preferences. Don't let a measly $50 decide your purchase. The warmer HD650 is preferred by some and the more neutral HD600 is favored by many.

>>51442784
HF5, IIRC the MK5 and MC5 are inefficient. If you can't afford the HF5 go for the MK5 then, it outclasses the MC5.
>>51443484
kek, I always see people using HD598 in public every few weeks, I suppose the color makes it easy to spot, never saw a HD558. It looks so goofy.

>>51443867
>loving the plastic
Literally a fetish

>>51443484
Saw Razer Krakens(the green ones) today on a guy walking on the street. Kinda made me troubled behind the wheel.

>>51443897
I can agree on those and other large flashy ones like that being cringey, but I don't see the problem with basic small black over ear headphones.

>>51443897
I saw the exact same thing a few weeks back in the CBD

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I know this might be blasphemy in /hpg/, but what are some good desk monitor speakers?

>>51443943
lsr305 if you want something actually sounding good

or consider the kef ls50 since you seem to like shrill, shitty highs and just a general shit sound signature (hd700)

>>51443943
LSR305 to start. Genelecs and Neumanns if your budget allows.

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>tfw no one ever responds to your headphone advice requests

>Budget
$48

>Location
US

>Source
Ipod Classic, Laptop, iPhone

>Preferred type of headphone
IEM

>Comfort level
I wanna be real comfy.

>Preferred music
Ambient, Music to listen to while in a forest, alone, taking LSD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJg5tY8QZLk

>Past headphones
That one open Audio Techinica pair of headphones that everyone all over /mu/ and /g/ liked. They were really popular 1-2 years ago, I don't know if they still are, i forgot the name of them. They were around $100-200, although they were consistently on sale for under $130 They were nice for ambient music like stars of the lid. They were kinda comfy too. My sister broke them on accident.

Vsonic somethings IEM i got for around $40 about 3-4 months ago. They were quite nice, although not too durable, they broke a week ago. I don't have too many complaints, they were probably the best IEMs i owned.

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Where do I go if I want niggerbass but don't want Beats?
I heard some Skullcandy headphones actually have a vibrator inside that vibrates along with the bass

>>51444066
just get the vsonics again and be more gentle with them?

>>51443943
http://www.thomann.de/intl/genelec_8351_apm.htm

they stare at you

>>51442765
>>51442787
>>51442871

There's no situation where 24 bit is worse, and a few where it is better. Always use 24 bit. With sampling frequency, some dacs like some frequencies a lot more than others. Assuming performance is good with all of them, then just match the sampling frequency of the audio.

>>51444202
there's no situation where it's audibly better either, so the answer to his question stays the same.

he didn't ask what he should set his output to

>>51444085
I'm thinking about it. It's my backup plan. I'm just looking to see what else could be out there too.

>>51444074
Sennheiser HD 8 DJ is pretty bass heavy. I love mine.

>>51444202
>There's no situation where 24 bit is worse
It takes up a shitload of space even by today's standards.

>>51444217
I thought that was what he was asking. where else do you find 192khz as an option

>looking at my black velour pads closely
>notice thin layer of yellow/brown substance

Probably my dead skin.

>>51444066
>That one open Audio Techinica pair of headphones that everyone all over /mu/ and /g/ liked
AD700? It's discontinued now, AD700x now.
The Vsonic thing, did it have a removable cable?

>>51443943
/hpg/ is the audio thread, but a budget? Size constraints?

>>51444733
It wasn't the a700.

>The Vsonic thing, did it have a removable cable?

Nope. Although i think their new one does.

>>51442938
Ordered the K612 Pro and the E10k. Sure hope that this was a better choice than the DT990 Pro.

want to buy headphones
>budget
$200ish

>location
US

>type
closed

>comfort level
comfy would be nice

ty hpg

hey, are the V-MODA Crossfade M-100's overpriced, or are they actually decent?

Are the takstar pro80s any good? Are they wearable in public?

I have a pair of headphones with a detachable cable but for the life of me I can't actually get it to detach.

what the fuck do I do? I need to replace the cable badly.

>>51444923
>buying beyers
>ever

you deserved it

>>51440539
what album is that on the bottom left please.

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>>51445404
okay... it's definitely stuck.
I know this is probably a bit different from the usual question but I could really use some advice ;_; I was looking to get a nice cable replacement but now it seems they headphones might be fucked.

they were cheap but I still like them..

>>51445582
what pair m8

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>>51445638
AKG k240.. like I said cheap but I like them.

I finally got it out with some pliers and incredible force... it seems the metal 'clip' was bent at a weird angle and getting caught. now I'm scared to put it back in... and a little worried I fucked up the wall of it's receptacle. life is suffering.

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>>51445694
okay.. I was able to get them out and in again but with the same amount of force to get them out.

gonna buy this as a replacement:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KALSXVM/

thinking about maybe picking up some new pads as well.
t-thanks for the help fellas

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So the pads on my CAD mh310s got really crusty and gross. I saw that someone had successfully transplanted the pads from a pair of NVX XPT100s onto AKG K240s, so I gave it a shot and it mostly worked. I kind of tore the seal on one, so I wrapped it in electrical tape. Feels comfy and sounds good.

Is there a large, round, aftermaket pad comparable to the brainwavz pads? I'd like an even larger one, but I'm not sacrificing any more if they're going to tear.

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>daily reminder :^)

What's the best cans for female voices in porn?

Someone has to have done the research.

>>51446357
It depends on which porn did you watch.

>>51446357
You'd want accurate headphones like HD598 or HD600.

>>51446596
HD558 is the same as HD598 but cheaper.

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Got these for $190. I have to move them every 30 mins or so otherwise the top of my skull hurts, where the (bridge?) touches my head, also the sound is clear although I think a bit "thin". Otherwise they're great.

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>>51444066
Get the Piston 3's mate or the KZ' ED9's, both are cheap and incredible

Trust this brit bong on this occasion.

the Audio-Technica ATH-M50x are good yeah?

>>51447095
far from it

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It is pretty clear to me that NwAvGuy was really Jason of Schiit.

Consider the chain of events:

1) Schiit was just starting out. They were getting a decent amount of good publicity and people were starting to buy their products, but as with all hifi products that gain momentum, the pendulum swings the other way and people start tearing you down.

2) Schiit is also interested in having an interesting company narrative. If it went from "we made money, then we made more" it would get boring quick. Good narrative needs crises, it needs a period where things looked bleak, it needs a faceless powerful person/group of people determined to up-end everything you worked for.

3) Its also hard to battle the traditional "more expensive = better" hifi mantra. Easier to do it with a grassroots anti-hifi establishment that slowly filters upwards and makes it "OK" to go for quality at a lower price.

4) To preempt this, Jason (marketing whiz that he is) decided to create his foil. Have the person do a bit of damage among the head-fi/reddit/gawker high school/undergrad crowd, people who were already unlikely to have the cash for your (current) products. Have the foil build up a fanbase and preach a message that only diverges slightly from your own view, but makes you out to be the "bad guy."

>>51447296
Tyll said their voices are different

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>>51447296

5) Release a product that seems to be the culmination of this philosophy. Have it be decent and affordable so the minions can afford one and don't lose their faith/passion for audio products.

6) Turn around at Schiit and release a finished product just as affordable and at least as decent. Now all who were already in the Schiit camp (the choir) have ammunition for their defense of your brand, while you have quietly convinced the vocal counterculture to sell off their guitars and buy turntables.

7) Now even those without money are buying their products, they have the goodwill of both the mainstream and the tributaries, they went through the "adversity" necessary for the college entrance exams/rags-to-riches narrative, and Jason can have a good laugh knowing he can be both a relatable public face and an aloof shadowy mastermind.

8) Jason is also a novelist. Leaving conspiracy theorists with an abrupt cliffhanger must have been truly cathartic.

Why are the ATH M50 not on the lists anymore?

>>51447315
Because they're overpriced and shit

>>51447321
>on sale on amazon now for as low as $129 and comes with an amp

>>51447346
Not worth over $100, don't even need an amp. Did I mention they were shit?

>>51447296
>>51447310

Somehow it makes a lot of sense.

>>51446669
Nice. They're an amazing headphone for their full price and that's an even better deal. They're a brighter headphone that are pretty neutral with a forward mid, so that's why they sound thin in comparison to others. That clarity and resolution for the price is something else though. You can stretch them out a little bit and gently bend the joint at the headband to make them more comfortable. Check out Tyll's review video to see how.

>>51447381
Are these an upgrade to the ones I have the ATH M50? Any comparisons?

>>51447296
>vali
kek

>>51445550
Architecture in tokyo

>>51447353
>implying
there is nothing wrong with the M50's at their price point, /hpg/ just hates them because they're popular for being good and has to appear to be above the crowd to justify this autistic general

>>51447516
No, there was nothing wrong with their price point back when they were actually priced well. Now they're overpriced trash.

Stop with your retarded post-purchase rationalization after reddit told you to buy them you utter fuckwit

>>51447539
>implying
well what would you recommend instead?

>>51447404
Yeah, they're an upgrade in terms of sound quality. Treble is cleaner and more natural than M50, with less boomy bass and more forward midrange. Depends what kind of sound you like. Only people I wouldn't recommend MSR7 to are bassheads, or people who are super sensitive to brighter headphones.

>>51447552
MDR-7506, ATH-M40X, NVX XPT100, Takstar Pro80

All cheaper and better sounding than the M50x anyway.

>>51447556
>M50x
I'm talking about the originals, M50x has less bass

>>51447381
Thanks, Ill check that out
>>51447554
Which is pretty funny considering most of the music I listen to is very bassy, but if I really wanted to complain I would just use the KZ ED9's I have.

>>51447572
>actually paying $129 for the old ones
They had the same amount of bass, M50x just have more subbass extension.

>>51443370
>>51443414
With such a face, i'd say people would be hard pressed to want to befriend you m8.

>>51447586
Yeah, they're not really bad with any kind of music, I just cover my ass because "bassy" can mean different things to different people. I listen to everything from Classical to Hip-Hop with them and I never feel like I need more. Some people just need that deep and boomy bass and MSR7 might not satisfy that, but for anyone else, they're a great value in their price range along with the HP50 (which are more warm and chill).

Sounds like you're liking them though, so enjoy.

Buying these Shure SE215K. What do you think?

Should I get the AKG K181 DJ UE off massdrop?

>>51444202
>>51444217
>>51444268
I personally wouldn't set the outpit below 24 bit sample rate, simply because I think it's audibly better than 16 in many situations. My real problem is about the frequency: CD are normally registered in 44.1 khz, vynils in 96 khz (sacd in 88 khz), while the standard dvd quality is 48 khz. Should I change my Realtek output whenever I play a different format among these or should I stick with 192 kbps forever? Would setting a higher output worsen the quality of what I'm listening to?

>>51448015
>simply because I think it's audibly better than 16 in many situations
it's not.

>Should I change my Realtek output whenever I play a different format among these or should I stick with 192 kbps forever?
192kbps would be much worse than changing it for each output.

>Would setting a higher output worsen the quality of what I'm listening to?
Upsampling can degrade fidelity yes.

The best thing you can do is use a good resampler that affects the fidelity of the output in the smallest most inaudible way (Such as the SoX resampler) and have it set to resample everything to a specific output bitrate.

For example I have the SoX resampler DSP on foobar resample all my audio that is not already 44.1KHz to 44.1KHz then have my DAC and Windows settings at 44.1KHz as well.

http://src.infinitewave.ca/

Here's a good comparison of resamplers going from 96KHz to 44.1KHz. For reference I use SoX VHQ Linear Phase

>>51437617
Why do all these recommended headphones look like shit to me?

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>>51448419
Maybe these are more your style?

>>51448419
Function over form.

>>51448435
>>51448443
I mean they look really fucking easy to break/cheaply made and really uncomfortable.

>>51448419
Aside from the HP50, all the over 200$ cans look good.

>>51442394
I want HD800 shills to leave.

>>51448505
HD600>shit>HD800

>>51447296
>>51447310
You are forgetting the fact that NwAvGuy publicly criticized Schiit audio products and reaction when that Asgard(?) amplifier was shown to create huge voltage spike when the device was powered off. He wrote to his blog about it.

I can't seem to link to blogspot due to the filter but just find his blog about "Banned at Head-Fi"

>Jason Stoddard from Schiit Audio (a paying Head-Fi sponsor) responded claiming the power down transient of the Asgard is only 0.10 – 0.15 volts and supposedly similar to a half dozen other headphone amps. Therefore, he argued, the glitch was quite harmless. Several seemed satisfied with that response but it didn’t make sense to me. Driving a headphone diaphragm that hard against its limits should require much more voltage. So I continued to push for more answers.

>Another Schiit employee, Mike Moffit, joined the discussion by first attacking my credibility and then singing the praises of Schiit in general. Not very helpful.

>>51448505
Stop that meme. I was not shilling them in any way. I just gave my impressions on them. I don't think I've ever even recommended them here.

>>51448550
I want HD600 shills to leave.

What would be a good upgrade point from the SHP9500? I love their sound signature. Have about 200-300 to spend.

>>51449165
dt880 because it's also bright and also has recessed upper mids

>>51449165
Fidelio X2

>>51449178
Nah Fidelio X2 would be too good and different for one who's used to the SHP9500. He'd better buy a Beyer or a HD600, since he loves boring sound

>>51449165
HD 600. Neutral and comfy.

>>51449338
too good?

>>51443695
20 kbps Opus already reaches transparency

>>51449391
hey faggot, please abx test that 96kbps opus using compression level 10.

ffmpeg -i filename.extension -c:a libopus -vbr on -b:a 96K -compression_level 10 output.opus

>>51449384
He mistyped too colored. Just /hpg/ shitposting.

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Just get these
I am cool now?

Just bought my first pair of 'good' headphones and they're mid-centric, am i going to miss bass?

>>51449744
On ear? No.

>>51449772
Which pair?

>>51449784
ATH-TAD500's. I know to most they aren't considered good but you'd understand if you'd had my history of headphones.

>>51449790
It's a good option for the price. EQ the bass and upper mids.

>>51449798
Equalize?

>>51449814
Yea. Use parametric EQ like equalizer APO to rise up the bass a bit and the upper mids as I remember those being rolled off and recessed. Use sine sweeps to figure out exactly where that coloration happens. You won't be missing much after that if you do it right.

>>51449878
Thanks alot man.

>>51449774
Why do you hate on ear so early?
It´s not like that my only set

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>>51449902
Note that if you rise some frequencies up, you need to apply equal amount of negative preamp gain so that you won't be going above full scale digital volume which could introduce clipping and thus distortion. EQ APO has a preamp setting for that. Get the Peace GUI for it too unless you really want to use it from command line only. Also for equalizing up bass frequencies on headphones that roll off heavily in the lowest octaves, go easy with the amount of gain you use. You can't EQ something that the headphone drivers can't reproduce. There is no value which you shouldn't exceed but try not to EQ more than 10dB. If you hear distortion, just lower the gain and settle with something that doesn't audibly cause anything than amplitude difference on the frequency you are trying to alter. Pic related is the response of those headphones. You probably shouldn't EQ below 30Hz. The response is excellent.

>>51449936
I don't but those sound awful. Muffled and veiled, barely any treble or upper mids. They are comfy for on ears and have great build quality.

Anyone have any good recommendations for a desktop amp under £100?

>>51450050
Objective 2

>>51450009
Thanks man, that a big help.

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The audio chip set on my motherboard advertises this, is it complete bullshit?

>>51450009
Really? I have to say that they sound better than other on-ear set I have tried, definitely better than the V-Moda counterpart

>>51448622
It's a false-flag operation, similar to what our government did for the 9/11 attack.

looking for iem's to upgrade to from cx300ii, fiio ex1 any good?

>>51450107
Not necessarily bull as frequency response of some line level outs depends on the load attached to them and many circuits exhibit considerable roll off in the bass, especially to low impedance load. What is advertised there is rather normal response for an output driving a load in both cases. Maybe that means your output is capable of handling a load a bit better than your "average" solution but it's nothing remarkable there. Good outputs like from a dedicated headphone amplifiers with near zero output impedance generally have response so flat it would barely even show roll of in measurement, let alone have any impact on fidelity in practice.

It's still a manufacturer spec though which should be taken as a grain of salt.

>>51450294
Ah, thought that might be the case.

>>51446669
I've looking at these for some weeks now and I think they're gonna be my pick. They just seem to be nice all-round at the right price range.

On ear headphones for normie girl. €100.
Sennheiser momentum or something else?

>>51451248
Akg K518 LE

Okay /g/, are there any decent cheap bluetooth IEM's, like at all?

Everything I see on Amazon is from some fucking (assuming Chinese) company I've never heard of, yet they all get 5 star reviews out the ass.

>>51447296
>NwAvGuy
>making tube amps
>making $1000+ amps and dacs

>>51447381
>Check out Tyll's review video to see how.
He wasn't gentle there at all.

>>51448464
those are just the sennheisers

>>51448464
7506 might look bad to some, but it's built like a tank, so are the v-moda headphones, if you got one of these, chances are your next headphone will be bought out of curiosity/desire to upgrade, never saw any anon saying that their 7506 or v-moda broke.

>>51451248
www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Crossfade-Noise-Isolating-Headphone-Silver/dp/B00IYH1UBY/

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Someone should teach Tyll how to use an equalizer.

Is 500-600 kbps bitrate a bad sign for a flac file? The only flac files that sound good to me are the ones having a 800 kbps > bitrate :/

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>>51451956
>:/

>>51437617
you gotta love that pair

of headphones

It's a silly question, but what music do you listen to when you get new headphones?

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>>51451956
No..

>>51452312
Music you enjoy.

>Black friday sales already starting
>Got 60ish bucks and just broke crappy sony headphones I've been using for the past year

Anyone know some good headphones on sale?

>>51452766
AKG K240 is 60 bucks on amazon right now

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> Joint Stereo

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Opinions on KRK headphones?
I want them for music (('edm'), + everything else), and importantly for counterstrike too
i'm not saying I'm biased toward krks i've just noticed they aren't recommended anywhere
my price range is £25-£70, i've been doing loads of research (I live in the UK)
would love any recommendations

ps. counterstrikes a fps game where hearing is verrrry important (footsteps/locating enemies ect)

thanks!

Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 Ohm + S.M.S.L DAC SD-793II good or nah ?

>>51453318
>Opinions on KRK headphones?
>S.M.S.L DAC SD-793II good or nah ?
No measurements.

>>51453352
>No measurements.
measurements? like ear/head measurements?

Since it seems like no one can help me when I post my long story so I'll try something else

Europe, IEM, ~200€, hiphop

ANY recommendations?

>>51453381
Frequency response for the headphones.
Frequency response, THD+N, noise and crosstalk for the amp.

>>51453392
Any other requirement (like extreme isolation, no isolation required, bass or no-bass, etc)?

>>51442871
I'm glad that you think my explanations are useful, but sometimes I wonder if they are too simple.

>>51452312
The music you know and enjoy, you would know best how it sounds.

>>51453413
>Frequency response,
ah shit i don't know I don't have the technical know how
just opinions on krks?

>>51453417
Using lg g4 but also have an amp (Fiio e11)
The best thing would be bassy without having to use amp, but if amp is necessary that's fine too

Had brainwavz b2 before, so b2 with more bass is what I'm looking for to be honest

I don't really care about isolation

>Budget
60 Us

>Location
US

>Preferred type of headphone
V shape (Anything best for metal music

>Open or closed
IEMS

>Comfort leve
High enough for 6 hours in a labor enviorment

>Preferred tonal balance
Best for heavy music

>Preferred music
Metal,Electronic

>Past headphones
E 10, Brainwaves,Clips

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>>51453452
I found some measurements on KNS8400. They look quite bad.

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So apparently Audio-Technica ATH-M50x are 50% off at amazon.
Are they a good deal at $119

>>51453672
Lol

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should I get the DT 770 Pro or the Custom One Pro?

>>51453672
Yes, they're also a good deal at 150.

>>51453672
I was looking at these too. Either these or the HD 558's.

Pls advice /hpg/

I have really bad traction alopecia from wearing my headphones all the time. I refuse to use speakers (I not only get noise complaints but my roommates are easily bothered by the explicit shit I listen to) and I hate on-the-ear or earbud phones. I can only handle circumaural stuff with soft pads, that's the only way phones can be comfortable for me. My current headset, which is causing the alopecia, is the XB500.
In a previous thread, someone recommended the XPT100 to me. Are these good for preventing traction alopecia? How soft is the headband, and what is it made of? What are some other ways to prevent the alopecia besides wearing my phones less?

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>>51453806
I'm the guy who recommended XPT100. Unlike XB500, the headband is actually padded and I have yet to hear someone complain about the comfort. If you want to be absolute sure your headphones don't make the alopecia worse, you should probably look for some with a suspension strap instead of a normal headband.

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Bought Sennheiser Urbanites for my imouto. Still hasn't shipped from Amazon, just wondering about alternatives before it goes through.

>Budget
Under $200 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Nexus 4, ASUS Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Closed, on ear - no iems (she had an ear infection)
>Preferred music
k-pop, j-pop
>Past headphones
Xiaomi Piston 2.1, ATH-m50

Probs gonna let this through, thanks in advance.

>>51453933
What is the stuff on the underside of the headband?

Is se535 worth it? I'm planning to use them for commute and listen to all kinds of music.

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Good evening lads

i have too much dynamic range. it means i have to constantly lower and raise the volume.

how do i fix it?

(don't give me some bullshit VLC solution)

>>51452312
Everything

>>51455008
I'm assuming things but ReplayGain maybe?

>>51455008
Listen to music with less dynamic range.

>>51455150
>>51455052
can a DAC lower dynamic range?

Is the SMSL SD 793II any good or should I just spend the extra for the FiiO E10K ?

>>51454318
Don't like it but you can do much worse for that price range.

>>51455008
ReplayGain.

>>51454318
Kind of. Everything is great except the extension and response in upper mids and highs... Unless you like very dark response. I'm going crazy trying to EQ mine and being disappointed in the terrible EQ on mobile devices which cause a fuckload of other issues with them.

>>51455234
Yes but not what you are referring to here. DACs' dynamic range means how high the noise floor is. Not how loud the average SPL of songs you listen is or the difference between them. Use ReplayGain.

new thread pls, i want to shit up the new one properly

>>51455454
ffs stop recommending replaygain i don't even listen to music

I'm looking to get some new headphones during this amazon sale.

I see a ton of wireless/bluetooth headphones are on sale... I'm just wondering if anyone here has any experience with them. What's their transmitting quality? "Lag"? Battery life over a long period of time? Etc

example:
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>>51455495
well the problem is that you dont really know what youre talking about
you dont have too much dynamic range, that doesnt make sense. whatever youre listening to does. to combat listening to something with too much dynamic range, try normalizing the audio. but before doing that, if youre complaining about 5.1 audio stream being too quiet in some parts when listening with a 2.0 setup, downmix it properly first. if that doesnt help, then normalize the matrix

Got my AKG K612 Pro today, satisfied so far. I did also order a FiiO e10k, but the sound volume on my Realtek ALC892 onboard chip is loud enough (good at only 20% volume). Should I try the e10k regardless? Not sure if there's a quality improvement, wouldn't want to waste 80€ when there's no big difference, as I did only order it because I thought that I would need it for the AKG.

>>51455509
>transmitting quality?
It's ok, cheap bt hps will sound shit in both bt and wired mode.
>"Lag"?
From absolutely horrible to good. My bootleg beat's cut out and clips from time to time just from having my mobile in front pocket and having it in my back pocket don't work. While my akg bt works within 20m (10 or so with walls).
If you talking about lag as in syncing with video then it's usually ok but more sensitive stuff like rhythm games won't work well.
>Battery life over a long period of time?
All bt hps I used broken before they run into battery problems.

Just get something like http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DOP3NPW which actually have been measured instead of a no name hp.

>>51455947
If the E10K is already on the way, you could try it out when you receive it and return it if it doesn't make any difference.

New thread

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